MEASURING UP! - Rivian R1S FIRST IMPRESSIONS - and All of the Seat Functions and Sizes!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2024
- On our first sighting and review of the Rivian R1S, I measure ALMOST EVERYTHING I can measure - Seat positions, storage sizes, height, width etc - AND show how all of the seats fold up and down. We sit in each row and even compare them to the R1T. Hopefully this is useful to you all!!
CONTENTS:
00:00:00 Intro - The R1S!
00:00:39 First Impressions
00:03:03 Lift Gate and Rear Storage
00:04:38 The 2nd and 3rd Row Seats
00:10:44 Measuring
00:22:05 One Last Measurement - compared with the R1T
00:23:28 Our Final Thoughts
00:26:08 Thanks!
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You did such a good job on this video. Lot’s of folks have had access to this vehicle in the same location, but your video felt like they let you take one home and you were just doing a “living with” experience. Seriously, thank you.
I am in love! I want one - with the redesigned ocean coast interior. I'm not sure we can justify having both the R1T and the R1S besides just the pleasure of driving them and marital equity. The Rivian Hub is cool too!
So we have to have both for marital equity? I'm ok with that. :)
Rivian Dad: happy wife, happy life. that aint just some tagline or cute motto. get her that S.
@@DavidLeee i like you!
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Nice work on the video, measurements, and comparisons!
Thanks for all the detail, with measurements and getting in and giving us all a feel for the interior space. Can't wait to get mine (ordered in May)!
We're on the list also (been waiting for a long minute) so we're super excited also. Going to be tough to decide between the T and S.
@@RivianDad - Great review, Scott! I'm getting the spare tire but I haven't really seen much on it's storage area. Nice to see there is still a usable storage below the deck but above the tire storage area. And thanks so much taking those measurements! I'm familiar with most measurements but you brought a really good point regarding the antenna fin on the roof. It shouldn't be a problem as the vehicle can be put into kneel mode but I still want to double check that.
Spoke to Rivian CS last night as they were getting back to me about some questions I had. One thing he confirmed with the Guide Team was that my Apr 2019 pre-order puts me into the 1H 2023 delivery window (which I already knew, but wanted confirmation since I changed interior from OC to BM). I did have a May/June 2022, in addition to the many before that, so it's a little disappointing I have to wait until next year. Hoping there are some R1S cancellations (especially since Explore pkg got dropped) and Rivian can start populated the R1 Store with those cancellations and I get an invite to virtually check it out if there is one I like.
Thanks for the walk thru!
You’re welcome. Thx for watching!
Awesome to see it in person surely! Looks amazing
Indeed. Thanks!
Good review. I get my R1S this week. Can't wait.
Wow! Congrats!
Excellent job, thank you!
Exciting!
And a lot less puke-inducing than the Millennium Falcon ride at Disney. :)
how exciting!
Great video! When I visited the hub they only had the R1T. I also saw an R1T today locally and I can't wait to get my Rivian (R1S).
Did you visit the hub recently? They said the R1S will be there from now on.
I visited at the end of last year. They had two R1T's at the time. I wish they'd put something like that on the east coast
Nice job Scott and Robin! One request, I’d like to see Robin using the reciprocating saw this time in your future video, cutting away the back of your garage to make this baby fit! 🤣
You just wrote my next script! :)
Hey Scott, thanks for going through the R1S. The wires in the rear windows are fm radio antennas
Evan
AH, good to know! Thanks!
Thanks for the simple review and showing us the inside! I’ve been trying to convince my parents to get one but I didn’t know the size of it (we need a minivan) and it’s basically the same size! Thanks for the review!
You’re welcome. Not sure exactly how it compares to a minivan but I’d say the minivan will have more interior space just by the floor being lower. But of course with the R1S you gain clearance from a higher floor.
Thanks for the nice vid with measurements. This is also the first vid I’ve seen where you showed how the middle seat in the 2nd row folds down independently so you could slide long items such as skis - which is super useful while still having rear passengers in the 2nd row. The one measurement that you didn’t get though was the interior distance between the front windshield or monitor to the back with all seats folded down. Would be nice to know whether we can fit long fishing poles or surfboards (common longboard length is 9’6” or 114”) through the middle seat opening.
Thanks for the video! Every time I see a new video the colors look different and I start to change my mind on the color combo. Can't wait to see it in person. Currently have one a white one on order with the light ocean interior.
White is a good choice. LMK if you’re ever in Denver - they have lots of colors on display at the service center.
Sorry I didn't measure the Frunk - we wore out our welcome by then. I'm told the wires in the back window are FM radio antennas! (in my defense, they look exactly like the heating elements in the rear window.)
Thanks Scott and Robin for the awesome walk-through! One question - when you were sitting in the third row and manually tilted the second-row seat back, you mentioned it was a shame you had to awkwardly try and reach forward to restore the prior recline position. Is it possible that if you slid the second row back toward you before tilting the backrest toward upright that might have solved the issue? That is, sliding the second row bench backward may then unlock the backrest to return to the previously-set recline level. I have been around VW and Audis for years and they often handle it this way (slide and then tilt gets you back to where you started). Just a thought. Thanks again!
Thanks for the "one last measurement." It answered my question perfectly. It's pretty hard to fit car seats in the R1T behind my seat (I'm 6'3"), but maybe it would be easier in the R1S.
I think it definitely would be. 3rd row would be harder but I doubt many parents would put their young kids that far away anyway.
Really too bad the R1T 2nd row cannot recline
Great work Scott and Robin, thanks for sharing!
Yeah, that would make a difference. Maybe needs an aftermarket solution.
Great video. Thank you for sharing. Given the tie downs in the rear, did you see any opportunities for a pet barrier in the back using the tie downs? Thank you.
I suppose the tie downs could be used for that although it’s a pretty tight space for a pet when the 3rd row seats are up.
Hello Scott and Robin, thanks very much for the walk-through and walk-around and all the measurements! This helps a lot. I have grandchildren I will occasionally need to accommodate (plus their parents!) and this looks like a good compromise (as you say) between the need to haul a bunch of people and the need to maneuver through traffic, parking lots, etc. on a daily basis, whether alone or with others. Very helpful. One question, though: How easy is it to get in an out of for short adults? Thanks for your help.
I'd say "medium." It's easier than a lot of taller vehicles and harder than shorter ones. I do wish there was a better handle system on the dashboard or the A pillar to make it easier, but on the other hand, the truck and the seats can be lowered. As of now, there isn't a "Kneel Mode" for parking but it's a request that I will make to Rivian (to have the truck and seats lower down upon parking). It can be done, just needs to be done by software.
@@RivianDad The kneel mode was advertised prominently by RJ early on, but I don't recall hearing anything about it recently. I wonder if there is a mechanical limitation that would preclude it? In any event, I'm very much looking forward to it, if it is possible. Thanks again, for your help.
@@williamelkington5430 - Not sure what you mean by "mechanical limitation" but it is strange Rivian has not made the kneel height option available right out of the gate. I suspect there may be some concerns of when to allow the vehicle to go in that mode, meaning, only up to certain speeds. I was told by the Rivian rep who brought an R1T to me for my First Mile Drive back in July that Kneel mode is coming soon via an OTA update. What I'm curious about, can you shift/select kneel mode while the vehicle is moving. E.g. as my vehicle approaches, say, a low clearance entrance I frequent (e.g. my garage, work parking garage, drive thru, etc), will I be able to geo tag those locations so the vehicle will automatically lower itself. (I know at least the Tesla Model X will do this.) Perhaps there's some concern or design issue on how, if at all, the vehicle would warn you if you had gear on the roof? Whatever the case, I can see kneel mode being very useful especially since Rivian does not provide any running boards to assist with vehicle entry/exit and when accessing the roof.
@@chuckm260 What I mean by mechanical limitation is that mechanical elements in the suspension will at some point prevent the vehicle from lying prone on the ground
I love this SUV and can't wait to order mine. Can you tell us more about the glass roof? I live in the desert and am curious about shading etc.
In the S, the glass roof is split in two sections (front/back). I can say that in the truck the roof is a really nice feature. On a hot, sunny day there is some noticeable heat emanating from the roof but not too much. Otherwise it’s fine and nice to see through. Note also that it’s really a back seat feature. You don’t notice it when you’re sitting in the front row as it is out of your field of view.
Can’t wait to get mine. Ordered it in November 2021. Mine will have the Lighter interior. Originally they estimated delivery second half of 2023, but we’ll see. We also have an R1T on order with the max pac (we tow a camper so range is very important) but since they discontinued the Explore package, we probably can’t afford it as it puts it over the $80k EV tax credit. We will have to make some decisions there too. Thanks for the great video and specs. Can the public schedule a test drive of the R1S too?
Thanks for watching Eileen. Keep us posted when you get that SUV! As for test drives, I have not heard of any scheduled test drives yet. I haven’t driven it either. Would love to.
@@RivianDad I’ll let you know when we take possession of it. If we have to choose between the R1T and the R1S, I think the R1S will win because we have 2 large Labrador type dogs and on long trips we, and so do they, prefer having a flat bigger space to lay down, accommodated better in the rear of the S with the 3rd row down. Not to mention, my son is getting married next summer and I know they hope to give us some grandchildren. 😊 The truck does have some really cool features though! Good luck to you making these tough decisions too.
Very interesting comparison of rear seat legroom between R1S and R1T. I had suspected this was the case, but Rivian gives the same rear seat dimensions. My guess is they didn't account for the rear seat sliding back.
The R1S actually has more shallow seats so the measure you really need is from second seat back to where knee hits the front seat.
What day of the week did you visit? I’d like to go when it’s that quiet there! Wish they had a 4/5 seater option for even more space
It was a Tuesday/Wednesday morning. They were also nice beach days which meant there were fewer people.
The lines in the back window are antennas not heating elements. Probably for FM radio or something.
Thanks!
Rivian has a hit on it's hands. The only barrier to mass adoption is the premium price tag.
I would agree. And I wish there was a strong used market for EVs but there just isn’t enough of them yet. Thx for watching.
Do we know if the door when it opens looks for obstacles above it? ilke if a kid opens it in the garage and it's about to whack something above it or the closed garage door even.
I don’t know. My guess is that it won’t know and would whack the thing. I think Rivian would have advertised that feature.
If people were not so obsessed with “I always wanted to drive a truck”, this incredible vehicle should be 90% of Rivian’s sales. In my opinion only, please. Cover the loading area with all season floor mats and get rid of all of that carpeting and then you’ll have an incredible amount of air conditioned storage space. I love this vehicle!!!
Strongly agree about the all season floor mats. Thx for watching!
Will you ever bring home a CYBRTRK?
If you do, l am keen to see your take on it
Liked this RIVIAN report heaps!
I'm a shareholder in RIVN
Not planning on getting a cyber truck, but would love to make a comparison. What’s they are available I’ll try and do that. Thx!
Thanks for getting the measurements does the steeling wheel tilt in both models?
I didn’t try that on the R1S but assuming it is the same as the R1T (which, I think, is a pretty safe assumption) the steering wheel can be adjusted up/down and forward/backward. I don’t know of a way to “tilt” except the natural tilt from those movements.
@@RivianDad tilt is pretty much the ability to move the wheel like you stated and thanks for responding can't wait to become part of the EV community.
Congrats on R1S!!! How is real world mileage? How is the charging network, as compared to Tesla?
I wish I could say but we don’t own it (it was on display for visitors of the Rivian hub in Venice). The charging network is small but growing. Most public charging is through non-Rivian companies like Electrify America, which has a pretty robust network but not quite the level of Tesla.
Any chance you got the distance from second row seat back to where knees hit the front seat? That's key because the S and T have different seat depths. Also noticed at 11:40 you probably had another inch to move it back based on the seat position compared to where it was at 10:50
I don't have that measurement. Sorry. Didn't think to do that.
So three people and three surfboards would fit in this better than the truck. 86” inside with the seats down is impressive.
How about the sunroofs, with no shades? Not sure if you are in a sunny state or high altitude, but I wish Rivian would have put shades on their glass roofs.
I actually don’t have a problem with it and we are at high altitude where the sun beats down. The glass roof can get warm on a hot sunny day but it’s usually not noticeable at all.
6:40 I think that those are antennas in the glass, not heating elements, now I’ll continue the video to see if I was correct. I have had cars with antennas in their glass and they were very poor as compared with a traditional or a shark fin antenna. I bet that I’m wrong because it has a shark fin.
A couple of others pointed out that they are antennas, but there is also a shark fin (for cellular, perhaps). Not sure why they are separated.
Those wires in the rear side windows may be antennae.
Oh, I didn't think of that! Could be right, although they do look exactly like the heating elements in the back window, just only two of them. I was thinking it was something to do with the driver's field of vision/blind spots for icy windows. Thanks
That was my thought also. And if they were heating wires then what's the reasoning why they would be different from one side to the other. Antenna makes more sense.
I’m told they are FM antenna wires. They do look like heating elements.
@@RivianDad There ya go! I had those in one of my 4Runners, which is why I suggested that.
Do Rivians or any BEV’s have AM radio tuners? I realize that most stations can be listened to over the internet, but many parts of the USA have no cellular service. I have a portable satellite radio that I use, but stinks in the mountains when there are big trees and deep valleys. I used to love listening to far away AM stations at night when their signals bounce off of the ionosphere! I was born in 1959, so you might have to ask your parents if they know what I am talking about. Thank you so much and I hope to hear back about AM tuners in cars.
The R1T (and R1S) does not have an AM tuner. Not sure about other cars (most Teslas do not). There are workarounds like streaming via TuneIn but I’ve never tried. I’m sure this trend has something to do with the interference you’d get with an electric car, or just that it’s old enough technology that it feels dated (or both). Thx for watching!
Are the R1S rear seats cooled? I know they aren't in our R1T, but the kids really are hoping R1S has them.
Nope. Just heated in the second row!
Cooling is only front row (driver and passenger). Heating is first and 2nd. 3rd has neither.
Back seat of the R1T has a little bit more space then the R1S w/ your seat position on the driver seat? You said it was 11.5" in the R1S and 7.5" in the R1T. How's that more space?
I said the S has more space - or at least that’s what I meant.
@@RivianDad I'll take the latter
Is the viewing of the R1S open to the public? If yes could you provide the location?
Yes. Business hours. Venice Beach. Just search Google maps for “Rivian”. It’s on Venice Blvd.
You still have the Rivian R1S?
What color green is that? I am on the website and their Forest Green sure looks a lot darker than the green of your R1S. My last question is: Will Rivian be around in 10 years?
That’s Launch Green. Compared to Forest Green it’s flat and a little more brown. Rivian has big plans and some cash reserves so yeah, I think so.
You missed one important measurement, the trunk space with the third row folded. (from the back of the second row to the end)
I would really like to see some footage with a Yeti Tundra cooler in the back with all three seats up. I’m convinced it won’t fit and my wife is certain it will!! Please, ayúdame!!
Can you send me one and I’ll try it out? :)
She’s probably right though. I’ll see if I can find one.
Or maybe you’re right. The third row is a fixed position so not a huge amount of room. But enough for several bags. Good idea for a video though. “What Fits?”
They could made it with adjustable third row seats for adults , it looks like it has enough space to do it
It reminds me my Land Rover Discovery 4
We can’t wait Rivian in Europe looks great
Yes I wish the third row slid back for more leg room. What country in Europe are you in? Thx for watching!
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If the legroom in the back is minimum 7 inches, which you say is tight (I agree) then how is the second row mid point being 7” ok? They are both tight.
There’s a big difference in the floor space as well. In the 2nd row the floor is quite a bit lower. Makes a big difference. Thx.
@@RivianDad thanks, that makes sense. The video was good to get these details. Rivian should have provided interior dimensions already, but like the T they have been slow to do so
I would like to see how this car will work during cold winters Ohio state. How fast it can defrost windshield, heat up interior. With regular gas engine I know exactly how to manage during snow and cold northern winds. Will see what happens in real life testing
Deceptive 7-seats SUV
The third row is too narrow to the children also feel uncomfortable, I don’t know they how to design it and Why not make it bigger ?
The second and third row combined are compromised. When I look at the new Blazer EV the second row space is fantastic. Rivian made the hood too long and wasted space there that could have been used for legroom.
I do like the hood size (and frunk space) so I think the design is good, although a couple more inches in the 3rd row would be nice but they’d also have to lower the floor in the 3rd row which probably has some hardware that can’t be moved. Thx for the comment.
I think there’s room for an extended-wheelbase R1S. The R1T has a 14 inch longer wheelbase. It would be relatively easy to do a 6-8 inch stretch in the R1S and give each of the 2nd and 3rd rows ample legroom.
@@teslaemperorwithoutclothes4169 R2S?
Really wish the 3rd row fold/unfold was electric, would have made it more premium given the price tag, but i can live without it.
That would be nice… but it is really quite easy to manually flip them from the back!
Flipping down is easy, up, not so much. Our 2010 Ford Explorer has electric folding, would be nice if it was standard on a vehicle 12 years never and twice the price.
Too bad they didn't make this a few inches longer to allow the back seats to be useable. That is an expensive waste of seats and space since it is small-kid-only seats.
Yeah, they're pretty tight. But, if you slide the 2nd row up for a semi-comfortable position, the 3rd row is doable for an adult. However, I do think it's a good compromise of interior and exterior size. I don't think I'd want a bigger SUV. Still not sure of that until I have used one for a while (fingers crossed.). Thanks for watching!
@@RivianDad Agreed, don't want it too long but it is 17" shorter than the R1T you're already use to dealing with the size of. So it could add 5-7" for legroom which would make a huge difference and still be roughly a foot shorter than the R1T.
But I only want seating for 5 anyway, they eliminated the 5 seat option for simplicity of manufacturing one interior type, hope that changes by the time my order arrives in 2023 !
@@2Greenlid - I hear ya, the 5-seater was my original choice also. I wouldn't hold your breath on a 5-seater option, at least in the R1 line. You would more than likely have to wait for the R2 line as it's my understanding they will be smaller versions of the R1 EAVs, but who knows, stranger things have and probably will happen.
One of the issues with the third row is the depth of the floor. Even if the truck were longer, the floor would need to be lowered for optimum comfort.
As for the 5 seat option, I’d like to get more info about how those seats are actually bolted in. They may be able to be removed (although not easily, and not with Rivian’s blessing).
Great vehicle. I want one but Rivian is 6-12 mos away from bankruptcy. They really need to get their crap together and build-deliver more vehicles. I am personally going to wait for the Kia EV9
I think you have the only review where the person actually goes through the car and reviews the functionality. Everyone else is just driving and talking. What gives?
I wasn’t allowed to drive so I thought a walkthrough would be the next best thing.
Unreal an adventure vehicle doesn't allow the seats to be removed. Rivian fail
Rivian did the old bait and switch by removing the R1s Explorer version so they could raise the price and offer the Adventure version with the low range battery. Don't be fooled yall, this company is doing fraudulent practices and should be ashamed of themselves. I cancelled my order.
I've heard that the main reason for the change was to focus on the Adventure package which is the largest group of orders. I think there were very few Explorer orders. I don't see how removing an offering is fraudulent (so long as you're refunded your deposit). But of course cancelling your order is entirely up to you. Thanks for watching!
its all plastic tho
Those are some seriously ugly headlights.
I like them but seems to be a little bit of a polarizing look. I do like that the oval shape is a throwback to climbing carabiners.