I was waiting for you to reference Sarah Everard Eleanor, especially when I learnt it was London & cops acting disgracefully during the pandemic! What’s haunting is that last picture of the sisters in the dark when u can’t fully make out their pose. To anyone probably wondering why she hadn’t covered Wayne Couzens, don’t worry, Eleanor found something SOMEHOW EVEN MORE FUCKED UP!!! 😱😱😱😱😱😱
As someone who is neurodivergent, he might have been doing something called stimming in court. That mixed with the severe lack of social cues and social skills probably didn’t help.
Bibaa was my social worker around the ages of 7-9. I’d heard about the case and the issues with the police surrounding it but never knew who the victims were. My grandmother informed me back in 2022 and my heart shattered knowing a woman who tried so hard to help me in my childhood had something so vile done to her.
I'm deeply sorry for your losses and heartbreak. Grief is just a period of time and your life meant everything to her. If you keep in mind "I love my life as much as I loved Bibba's life" her memory and message will always surround us and her memory won't be remembered only as a victim to a horrendous crime but, as a beautiful person who lived a beautiful life and made a positive impact on your life and the world because you can see she was clearly a beacon of light. I wish you well ❤
If doctors have to go through school for so many years to be educated and trained enough to be trusted with our bodies, I think the same should go for cops.
I know of at least two in the same southern american Co. that have backgrounds that SHOULD NOT allow them to be police. One was in uniform, off duty, got until a fight outside a bar and shot his duty gun in the air. He was fired, then later accepted back to the same town. Another one is a dv abuser, has already received several complaints, hasn't finished his cop training yet (idk what the program is called) and is already working on duty with a gun he's not certified to have. :). Help us. Anyone. Wtf.
They now have to have a degree which is good as I’m a criminology student and the lengths the professional policing lecturers go through to make sure the standards are upheld are amazing. A student in my class recently was liking victim blaming comments and he was under review for weeks and later kicked off the course. They have meetings twice a week too to cover issues in the police and corruption.
Not city or "local" cops... state police usually need a degree or some sort of higher training. But most city and local cops, I highly doubt have any degree. @lyanneroberts7936
Are you American? I'm just curious. The past of people from Africa is indeed a story to tell. Imagine what it feels like knowing about 90% of the people who see you anywhere hate you? Obviously, the two entities clearly stayed how they felt. Are you starting to understand how some people are VERY angry?
@@t.j.7789 I am not, I am from The Netherlands. I have had many history lessons in the past, so I know the extent of the abuse POC endured and still endure. I just will never understand what goes on in the mind of someone who hates POC/people with different cultural backgrounds. It makes me sick
@@SohamMehta-bg3ds lmao what are you on about? I am not here to prove myself or my morals. I am simply confused as to why people are filled with hatred. There is no reason to be, whatsoever
Thankful to those police officers who snitched on those two... There needs to be FAR more regulation on who is allowed into the police force, because some people clearly should NEVER have access to that kind of power.
all the parents who blame their kids behaviour on 'hanging out with the wrong crowd' half of them dont realise their kid is the head of the 'wrong crowd'
When I read that it struck me as funny because their son is the one who committed murder ALONE. Not in a crowd.. wonder if anyone else in that “crowd” committed murder. I’d venture to guess probably not. I hate when parents blame others for their own child’s behavior instead of holding their own child accountable.
That is not true some kidsfallinton the wrong crowd becausee they areweak anddinsecure so theyfall intow certain groups. This is such an uneducated statementt
@@queeng5925 you could tell me to grow up! But you can't say what parents be thinking or saying when you don't know the first thing about being a parent! So maybe you should do some growing up
Whenever she says “i mean no disrespect to anyone in this video” my brain always goes “except the culprit(s), full disrespect to them. They don’t deserve respect”
I'm an Australian and our cops are racist and crappy here too. A friend of mine actually sued them. They issued her a move on notice at a train station. She wasn't drunk, she wasn't making any noise, it was late and she was just waiting for her train, but her shirt had an anti cop slogan because she had been at a police brutality rally in the city that day and was heading home. When she told them that she was moving on, in that she was waiting for a train to take her home, the police beat the absolute shit out of her. Knocked her teeth out and everything. She won her lawsuit thankfully, but those cops are pigs. As far as I know, they're still active policemen 😡
The fact that they proved the point of the anti-cop slogan on her shirt is ironic. And they proved even more why people attend those kinds of rallies in the first place. I’m glad your friend is okay and thank God she won her law suit. I hope she never experiences anything like that again.
@@sydtait If you were eating a bowl of candies, and then you were told that, say, 10% of those candies contained lethal doses of poison, would you feel better knowing that it wasn't all of the candies?
Hi! I'm a Criminal Psychology student, and we often study cases like this, where the killer pose the victims body. My theory for the embrace posing he did with Bibaa and Nicole is that he was trying to bring a sense of belonging/fondness to the scene. He saw those two sisters, happy, laughing and having fun with each other, something that he was never able to do, either with friends or his own siblings, and because of that he put them in a "hug". It's almost like he's saying: "keep being affectionate." But don't think for a moment that he was trying to be respectful. I'm pretty sure that embrace was a way for him to satisfy his own urges of being loved and love too.
Copying my thoughts I already left on here in reply to you to share them: My first thought was that he singled them out because he thought they were lovers. I'm sure they were giggling, hugging, and having a fun time and he took that as them being a couple out on a picnic, and did not know it was just a fun birthday night for sisters. Perhaps he was homophobic and posed them as the lovers embracing that he thought they were? As a grotesque way to tell why it was them he targeted? Oh! And even more so he targeted them thinking they were a couple, because seeing as he was angry he couldn't get a gf himself, his thought process was probably something like, "how dare these two girls be together instead of being with me! I'll make them pay for choosing each other and no one choosing me!"
Not usually one to comment but wanted to say thank you for using the correct terminology around Autism and explaining why we don’t use ‘high and low’ functioning anymore!!! So good to hear people getting it right!
@@jaylacarroll7284 Wow, no need to be rude; ever heard the saying "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all"? "You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar"? Your comment was so unnecessary. Please be more thoughtful about how your words can affect people in the future; taking advantage of the anonymity the Internet affords you by being mean for no good reason is not okay, nor is it funny.
"Being a girl with a sister is an indescribable feeling." Every time I am on call with my sister I ask her if she loves me and she says no, but she also insists on staying on video call with me for 6 hours especially when mom's not home because she feels the need to babysit me (I'm 23) and keep me company. Indeed indescribable.
It’s sad how the family had to start the investigation for the police like…. WAS IT TOO HARD TO SEARCH THE LAST PLACE THEY WERE SEEN 🤨, and the cops weren’t even giving the bare minimum / effort in the case
Horrible that they had to find their loved ones in that condition. They even found the murder weapon. Who knows how long it would have taken for the women to be located if the family didn’t take it upon themselves. Likely it would have been some random stranger who stumbled upon them which would also be traumatizing for them. The crime scene would have also been further contaminated and evidence could have been lost. If a significant time had gone by even the CCTV footage could have been lost, especially in private cameras. The officers showed a complete lack of care, but it’s not surprising considering the two who took disgusting photos.
23:45 "these two pigs" I absolutely LOVE the way you said that. They really are nothing but disgusting pigs. May the two ladies rest in peace and my condolences go out to the families and everyone who knew these beautiful women.
It really is. I'm sure their is some type of lore on dying on ones birthday.....can't remember now but I will have a look. Just awful for the pair of them. I love how she said "dancing in a field" like she was having the time of her life with her sister. Only for some sicko to cut their lives short, awful. Police are completely shocking and disgusting.
@ilaneattar4891 thank you. It was and still is hard. That day is one of the worst memories of my adult life, and it's just tragic not being able to remember her birthday without having it mixed with such pain.
I agree! Eleanor and Kendall Rae are the best ones to watch in this genre, because they put a lot of care and respect into these, and really do the victims justice by telling their stories respectfully ❤
I met the mother of these two beautiful girls. She is an absolute Queen and what she does to raise awareness is amazing. Hearing this story directly from their mum was harrowing and heartbreaking. Rest in peace, beautiful girls!❤
As an autistic person I rlly appreciate u explaining that aspergers is outdated and especially not using functioning labels in favour of support needs, thank you !
@@BluBond Hans Asperger worked with the Nazis during the Holocaust and his abhorrent descriptions of some autistic children as being less ‘worthwhile’ than others led to dozens of children being sent to a Nazi clinic, where they were murdered. its named after a nazi so theyre changing it, it also doesnt clearly differentiate it from autism spectrum disorder
@@BluBondBack in WWII, they were killing any child who were ill or disabled (because eugenics), but one pediatrician called Hans Asperger decided to “spare” some of the kids because they could be useful on his researches on autism. The 800 kids he wanted to keep were sent to a clinic where he experimented on or killed those kids, but this fact was hidden from the public. All we knew was that his research led to a better understanding of autism. He deemed that those kids were some sort of different branch of autism and then the term Asperger’s syndrome was born. It isnt a different type of autism though, its just autism. Lower or higher needs for accommodations. Thats why we call it a spectrum. The truth about him came out in 2018 which is fairly recent so the change hasnt been made worldwide yet. My apologies for the long reply to your comment, im just really passionate about the topic. Also, dont feel obligated to stop using the term for yourself. Many people will tell you its wrong to keep it, but frankly its none of their business what you feel comfortable using for yourself. Some autistic folks ditched it, some kept it, personally i ditched it but i would never judge someone for keeping their initial diagnosis. When you’ve identified as something for so long, it can be hard or even heartbreaking to change it.
I just wanted to say, as a mother to an autistic little boy, thank you for clarifying that Asperger’s is an outdated term and that it’s improper to use “functioning” labels now AND for including the proper terminology in your explanation. A lot of people don’t know this still, so I really appreciate you taking the extra time to mention it. 😊
@@theamiablepirateroberts7839asperger is the last name of a man who decided which autistic people could live and which were “too autistic” and needed to be rid of
@@theamiablepirateroberts7839a lot of people see people with autism as broken, there was once a symbol of a missing puzzle piece to represent those with autism. Those symbols and terms are clearly hurtful cause it insinuates that there is something wrong with us, or “missing”. Now, the symbol is an infinity symbol and those represents the vast spectrum autism really is. We are all different and require different things to keep this world as manageable for us as possible. TLDR: old puzzle symbol: hurtful and says people with autism are broken New infinity symbol: respectful and accurate of the autistic spectrum Low support: still having regular challenges that those without autism don’t have, but are able to find coping skills to help themselves High support: have regular challenges that those without autism don’t have, but require more extensive care and support to get by
@juliasugarbaker9032 it can definitely depend on preference and what that person is comfortable with :)) although many people see autism as one thing, it’s a spectrum so whatever works for one person might not work for someone else. It’s not to be compared or belittled. I also have level 1 autism and do face every day struggles, but I personally am comfortable saying I have autism because the people I surround myself with understand that that is a spectrum and although society may not look at me and guess I have autism, once they get to know me, it’s pretty clear Your challenges with Asperger’s are valid and I enjoy hearing about different perspectives other than my own so thank you for sharing :>
An aspie here. It’s very different than other autistic terms and all the changes are for the worst. Why? Because none of the studies are specialized anymore so research is now useless.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the reason people said he was creepy was because, he was a creep. The sort of creep who watches girls with lust and resentment deep enough to make a pact with demons. He saw those gorgeous sisters laughing and dancing and decided he'd kill them. Creepy as shit.
Unfortunately a lot of young guys who are creeps either don’t realize that they are, or just embrace the term and idolize terrible people who’ve gone on to do horrible things (a la “supreme gentleman” type bs). My younger brother went through a stage of that in high school, but thankfully he chose to identify with fictional characters (especially Travis Bickle) and thought the real-life ones were self-important idiot drama queens. Rightfully so.
Yeah I thought the same. He was a creep and they sensed it. I seriously doubt they called him that to his face. I’m sure they were asked about him after the double murder and they were like- yeah that guy was creepy.
I have a creepy guy at my work who's very self centered, and thinks he's above others especially women, but I worry about his mental state sometimes. They just act a little passive aggressive, predatorial, as if they could strike at any moment.@@cloudfaulk4640
@@cloudfaulk4640 yes young men need to learn what is appropriate and what is not. We can't expect them to automatically know. If you get told you're a creep that might be a good time to examine your behavior and social interactions.
Here in the U.S., if a cop gets fired for being horrible, usually they can just get the exact same job in another state or even county within the same state.
I live in the small town in Australia where a police officer tasered a 46kg, 94 year old woman with dementia in a nursing home, who went on to die from the injuries she sustained from the (i'm going to call it) assault. This made international news, and it was devastating for our small community - it's so unbelievably disgusting how some of these people trusted to protect us get too drunk on the power they're given. This story about these women is so devastating, yet so unsurprising. Surely we can do better.
Wow, I’ve seen the pics of them with the fairy lights so many times in “photos with dark backstories” videos but nobody said that there was this much to it, thank you for always going so in depth
Definitely one of the best true crime channels I’ve watched been a loyal Eleanor fan since I first watched her Rhys jones case cover she’s incredible and another true crime channel I’d recommend is a guy called evil among us check him out he goes into the psychology of the killers as well as some lovely tributes to the victims
@@charlessarver1637 yeah she's pretty dude get your hand out of your pants its a fucking true crime video, her looks have actually ZERO to do with anything and you being creepy about it is also weird. "isnt that bad to look at" thats fucking weird, thats weird to hear on the RECEIVING END, its not flattering. learn to talk to and about people you dont know.
I really love seeing Eleanor’s personality come out in these more recent videos. Makes me laugh and feel a bit better with such a heavy topic. Makes me feel like I’m just having a conversation with a good friend
she's actually a hero, i think the reason his blood was even at the crime scene was because of her. its so sad that hers and bibaas life was cut so so short
Imagine being that girl and finding out that this despicable human being committed double murder to hit on you. That’s unhinged on many levels, but knowing that I would never rest a day in my life afterwards. The level of guilt I would carry, if someone knows her make sure she’s okay and knows that she has absolutely nothing to do with that situation.
Hey Eleanor. Thank you for never shying away from giving us the truth, even when it's ugly and violent. Thank you for being passionate, for giving us the perspective to remember those taken from us with deep reverence. Thank you for never being afraid to stand up against the systems that fail us. Thank you for being a voice for women, for people of color, for victims in poverty, for queer people and even other demographics. I firmly believe you were made for this job and I've been here on this channel for years. Keep your light. ❤
My lemon theory: when I was younger I loved spies and shit, so my friends and I would write notes back and forth in invisible ink. A trick that we used to use for this was writing in lemon juice -- if you dip a quill in lemon juice and write with it, the writing won't show up unless you put it over something hot, for which we used to use candles. You could write crazy secret messages over normal ones by doing that. I think that's what he was doing -- either he wrote more stuff on the contracts in invisible ink and was using candles to read it, or he wrote other contracts that weren't found because they looked blank.
My first thought was that he could have just been hungry and craving a lemon I mean i crave citrus every once in a while. But the invisible ink thing definitely makes sense
I had this same thought! I read about the lemon juice trick in something like the Famous Five maybe, and I immediately thought he was probably writing notes in it.
@@annon-10Fairy lights and little light wand things I’d assume - the imprint stays as little lines because of a camera setting (something to do with shutter speed or something like that? I can’t remember) which makes sense because Nicole was a photographer
I just want to thank you for your sensitivity around your language when talking about ASDs and high support needs vs low support needs. We need more people like you to encourage the rest of us to be cognizant of what terms we use and to take our cues from the actual community we talk about. Bless you, Eleanor. Keep up the good work!
i was thinking the same thing!!! it’s very affirming and encouraging that a large creator actually did research on ASD instead of just saying daniel had asperger’s or “high functioning autism”. i wasn’t expecting her to say anything about high/low support needs but she did and i’m very grateful for that!
@@wmadar same here! I'm autistic and hearing her explain that made me really happy because more often than not creators won't use the right terminology and/or acknowledge when terminology is outdated, why that is and what to use instead
Have loved watching you over the years! You’re always so respectful of the victims and their families and also so sweet and charismatic. Love your channel. You and your team are amazing!
The posing feels like another aspect of his whole sacrifice ideology. It feels like he was wrapping them up together as a nice little gift. Maybe he even thought it was important to let the demon know they were, without a doubt, meant to be his sacrifice. He was probably proud that he was able to offer a double sacrifice on his very first go. So disgusting.
as someone with autism, i just don’t understand this video :( because i understand all of the struggles, and i understand how in the end he was a bad person, but saying how its sad how he was ostracized and mocked by his peers and then calling him a loser without specifying why, just a senseless thing to put in
@@deezgamingHe hadn't done anything wrong while he was in school so him being bullied is sad, yes, but then he goes on to commit a horrible and disgusting double murder and promises to do atleast 6 more, so yes he does become a loser.
@@deezgaming its bc you have autism that you have a harder time picking up on what she means butwhat this person said is the general consensus she was getting at (im also autistic btw just have an easier time with social comprehension is all :D)
My theory on the staging is that he may have thought they were a couple and not just friends or sisters. Given his far right beliefs he might have been trying to 'out' them or give a clue to his demon why he chose them. I'm angry at dad for recognising to the point of telling people, that his son would commit a horrible crime, but presumably didn't get him any help or intervein in any way. Another excellent video! Love your work 🙂
Those were my first thoughts also. He desperately wanted a gf; and could’ve just been filled with hatred at seeing 2 women together (assuming they chose another woman over him). You see this a lot with incel behavior. He wouldn’t have seen the situation as it actually was (2 beautiful loving sisters just dancing and celebrating life).
This is exactly what I thought. With his beliefs he definitely saw two women laughing and having fun and instead of thinking friends or sisters he saw a gay couple. He was most definitely super homophobic.
@GaleForceKeil ??? I read an article about Jessie J. (who does not have Autism) and she said that she was awkward at that age and had to fake her confidence and that she came off as aggressive and off putting because of it. I, myself, was diagnosed with Aspergers as a child, and while it definitely impacted me socially (My parents had to prompt me to call and make plans with my friends who had Aspergers like me because none of us really had the skills to create a social life on our own) the popular kids at school actually liked me. I wasn't bullied at all and if one of them saw me out in public with my family, they would come up and give me a high five and say hello. So the mere fact that someone is on the spectrum doesn't make them engage in behavior that can be viewed as creepy and off putting.
@@richardiiibrinker492 I'm autistic too. I (and a lot of other autistic people) have the complete opposite experience. Me simply existing in my weird autistic way, trying to mind my own business, was enough to inspire my classmates to go out of their way to exclude, bully, harass, and torment me. Just necause they sensed something "off" about me, even when I tried to keep to myself and never did or said anything to them. A LOT of people out there hate autistic people. To the point that they'll trip over themselves trying to find reasons t justify it, when really the only reason is ableism.
@@GaleForceKaif look fella. Obviously sucks that youve experienced treatment like that, and I genuinely sympathise with you for that, and hope going forward you dont need to experience that again. But lets not be sticking up for a murderer. Listen to the things he said and done prior to murdering innocent people. This isnt him being called creepy and off putting because of his condition, its because of what he said and did, and he turned out an evil murderer, so in this case when he was called creepy, off putting and so on, it was right on the money and nothing to do with him being autistic. Good luck in the future just dont be defending murdereers lad.
In Australia a cop just murdered two people :( I absolutely think there are good cops out there, but damn they need to do some better vetting, cause it's scary some of these psychos who get through recruitment.
@@HelloHaveA_NiceDay a 28 year old senior constable, beau lamarre presented himself at a police station in bondi for the murder of his ex boyfriend jesse baird (26) and his new partner luke davies (29). prior to this confession a few of the mens belongings were found in a dumpster. the police then went to jesses home where they discovered a large amount of blood. a single bullet was found that matched to a nsw police firearm belonging to the officer. the gun has since been seized and is being examined.
Yes I’m Australian and too was shocked by the policeman killing his ex boyfriend and his new boyfriend….the fact this policeman was a former celebrity stalker should have been a red flag and he shouldn’t have been allowed to be in police force! They do need to do better personality assessments. The police in this case were just so horrible, misogynistic, racist….i just think someone should have reported them earlier, I’m sure other people knew about their revolting behaviour. The PREVENT program sounds good in theory, but if he’s still accessing all the dark content, it doesn’t sound like it works very well. I don’t believe watching that crazy demon TH-camr caused it either…I think that the murderer already had huge issues and he would have murdered no matter what he watched. I’m so glad Nicole fought back and helped get him caught….
@@liz3108 Totally, the guy in Aus had a history of stalking and obsessive behaviour, I am wondering how he got through all the police assessments. I thought they did really comprehensive mental health and personality assessments, but maybe I'm wrong.
I went to school with daniel, the day I heard about this case I was in shock. I wasn’t in the same year group as him I think I was in the year below but never heard about any of this. He was always quiet and I didn’t really see him talk to anyone. I also didn’t know about the police officers taking pictures in this case. I’ve watched previous video’s about this case but you definitely covered this the best. I pray for the victims families
Can’t believe what the police did with their dead bodies,should’ve been fired really. Love your videos Eleanor,you’re beautiful and talented as always and you always tell these stories with respect,keep it up.
you and your teams knowledge and scripting when talking about autism was phenomenal!! not many talk about high/low support needs instead of functioning. it’s obvious the amount of care you put into clear, correct information 💕
My boyfriends dad is a cop pretty high up in his area. He has snitched on other officers before there are some good ones but sadly there are also the very bad ones that became cops for corrupt authoritarian reasons.
Glad to hear he was still willing to tell on other officers despite being higher up. Often (not always) Those higher up are more bothered about politics and covering their and the backs of others than justice. Glad to hear it ❤
It’s important because too often the blue wall of silence allows corrupt police officers to operate with impunity. It’s interestingly one of the few careers where shining a light on corruption gets a person labeled as a “snitch”. In my career if we witness abuse, mistreatment, mistakes endangering patients lives we are obligated to report. Police officers are also supposed to be mandated reporters yet they are discouraged from telling on each other.
Exactly..my husband is a cop and a damn good one. Aggravates me so much with the bad officers who give the good ones a bad name. He works so hard to take care of his community. Unfortunately there's corruption everywhere. But he doesn't tolerate any of it.
As someone who was a manager at a busy pub at the time....eat out to help out was horrendous! It was the catalyst for so many people in the industry myself included, leaving hospitality and never going back! People were so entitled, obnoxious and rude!
Hi Eleanor! Greetings from Maryland in the US. I love watching your videos and love the way that you tell stories. I'm especially loving Freaky Friday and can't wait for the next!! Thanks for all you and your team do for us. 😊
Omg huuuge respect for the correct and well researched explanation of terms relating to autism!! It's such a relief whenever I hear people discredit functioning labels, since I still see them used a lot outside of the autistic community by people who haven't researched. Thank you for your heartfelt coverage of cases, rest in peace to those two beautiful souls.
Part of me wonder if he posed them that way because he mistook the sisters as girlfriends? Like the posing and crime low key read to me as a hate crime in multiple ways. So I wonder if that was the case?
Hearing you speak with such sensitivity and sympathy about the struggles Daniel must have faced with ASD honestly made me tear up. All three of my kids are on the spectrum, and my oldest will be 18 this year. He is the one who struggles the most with socializing. He has trouble with making conversation with people he doesn't know well, and keeping it going. He won't make eye contact - even the camera's "eye" when I take pictures. He says odd things that some people may find weird (like when he was obsessed with saying the letters "XD" over and over, or hated the number 19 - no idea why - and would skip it when counting). He doesn't show emotion on his face, so people can't tell if he likes a birthday present (and if you ask he'll just say "yeah." Which means he genuinely likes it - he is honest. He's just...unenthusiastic, even when he really likes something). Because of cartoons and movies when he was younger, he'll sometimes talk in a sing-song, because he doesn't understand people don't speak that way. So he might say, "Ooooh noooo, what are we going to dooooo?!" but, he's genuinely scared he just doesn't know how to express it. Despite seeing other people express emotion as an example his entire life, it doesn't seem to register. He is brilliant, sarcastic, funny, sweet, honest as the day is long, empathetic. If he says something that hurts you, he's crushed. But many people find him strange and off-putting. Anyway, I related to that deeply. Thank you for your kindness and empathy, the research you do and the way you explain it. Much love from an ASD mama and fellow true crime fan in America.
as a late-diagnosed autistic person, i also really appreciated the way eleanor spoke about ASD and clarified the language that is now preferred. also, i wish your kiddos luck, and i hope you continue to support them as it is clear you are already extremely supportive! i know how hard it was to turn 18 and not know what to expect from life and the changes coming my way so i’m sending some good vibes to your oldest especially :)
God Bless you and your babies ❤ My son is also on the spectrum. He has taught me so much about life. More than I could ever teach him. He's a bluntly honest beautiful soul ❤ just full of absolute pure joy 😊 Hugs to you ❤
@@jxn1056 Thank you! Blessings and well-wishes sent your way! They are challenging sometimes (all three of mine are teens and preteens, heaven save me lol) but SO worth it! When they choose to give their love, they give it wholeheartedly and without strings!
I felt the same way. It made me sad, really, to hear all the things in the "contract" he'd written. He was so young and immature, and asked for things that all people want, but he didn't know how to get them. He just went about it in such a wrong way.
Fryent is actually local to me. The primary school I went to was right next to the park. It always hits different when a case happens in your local area or near you. RIP Bibaa and Nicole you deserved justice and dignity ❤❤
Fellow Aussie here - I have 2 people in my life who hitchhiked with Ivan and didn’t realised until they saw his face on the news!! Always get chills when driving past the Belanglo State Forest 😞
It really upsets me everytime I hear about families having to set up searches and find their own loved ones while cops do nothing. We just had a young gentleman found near me that was reported missing and police literally told the family the one officer assigned to the case was going on vacation for 3 days so nothing would be done until he came back. Family found his body the next morning during a search party they organized, again. 😢
You are my favvvv thank you for another video and your respectful but not obnoxiously formal telling of this case not necessarily informal just you’re funny and you say your own thoughts you’re adorable lord of love xx
Ellie, I've been watching your videos for a few years now, and your storytelling and on-screen presence have come so far! I've always enjoyed watching you, but now you seem so much more comfortable and like I'm chatting with a friend. Thank you (and your team) for all your hard work week after week. ❤
I used to go to this country park all the time growing up, it was a 20 min walk from my house. I remember when it happened and then not being allowed to go back there, and now whenever I think of my memories in that park, by that lake, I just think of them
I took that Mental Health Check In half way through the video, but I came back to finish it! I also find the more recent cases a bit harder to listen to, I don’t know why exactly because I know all the cases are real but the really recent ones feel more real. I love your videos! 💕💕
You did an amazing job. Thank you for sharing this tragic story. Even though they are sometimes, these stories are hard to hear, let alone telling them, it's important to get these information out there. The world is a dark place with monsters hiding in the darkness, and you do a great deed by educating us so we can see the truth. Thank you 😊 keep up the good work 👏
This case is horrifying and evil. The fact that the police not only blatantly ignored the case and refused to search the park, leaving the family and friends of the victims to find their bodies THEMSELVES, which is incredibly traumatic and nobody should have to go through, but then for these two police officers to show off the bodies and make such misogynistic remarks about these two women who were brutally murdered, is just sickening. My heart goes out to Bibaa and Nicole's family.
These two girls deserved so so much more, my heart goes out to their friends and family 💕💕 Also, I am so happy that your personality is shining through in these videos more and more! I love the cute bloopers of screwing words up and going on tangents, you are just so adorable 🥰
I’m glad you upload these stories without you I would never knew these cases even happened you tell the stories with respect and kindness to the victims ❤
Speaking as an autistic person, I feel school environments are always difficult for us. It also doesn't really matter if we tell that we are autistic or not our peers 9 out of 10 times will exclude us or say that we are creepy and unsettling. At this point being bullied and excluded in school is common for autistic people, if not bullied and excluded then most likely used if we are useful and know the subject well, then suddenly everyone is your best friend. They just often see us as wrong.
i wait so long for these genuinely. they’re so harrowing to listen to yet so interesting. i just find it insane (obviously in a bad way) how the murderers minds work. also eleanor’s voice makes it SO good‼️ keep going eleanor we all love your videos ❤️
The cops in Anchorage, Alaska are great from what I know personally and there’s a lot less to worry about than other states when it comes to the police force here. So sad for these women❤️ love you E!
The video has just started so I don’t have any case related comments yet, but instantly the picture of them together is so lovely. Those women were so beautiful and I can feel their energy through the picture
Misogynoir- hatred of, aversion to, or prejudice against Black women. Misogynoir brings together the words “misogyny” and “noir" ( meaning “black” in French). A term referring to misogyny directed towards Black women where race and gender both play a role. The term was coined by Black feminist writer Moya Bailey in 2008. If you don't know about, plz learn. Almost anywhere there is misogyny there is also misogynior. Thank you for covering this case Eleanor
Once again, you (and your team) have done an incredible job on this video. You always give the victims so much respect and consideration, and I very much appreciate that.
I always knew of this case from multiple "Chilling last photos of people" TH-cam videos with those pics of the faerie lights. I had no idea about the awful cop selfies until now...
I love that you are an ally for women and so open about it. It’s one of the reasons why I love your videos so much. Us women are so hated in this world and all we have is each other.
I haven't heard of this case. How absolutely horrific 😢 Thank you Eleanor for the important work you do and for giving victims the voice they deserve. I cannot imagine how heart shattering this must have been for their loved ones
ngl ive noticed a lot of middle eastern people just being rude, racist and colourist towards south asians. in saudi, they literally trick a bunch of south asians into working there as a chance of a better life and then literally made them slaves. in yemen, the houtis restored slavery based on race, colour of someones skin and ancestry
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one hour ago!!! hii!!!!!!!
I was waiting for you to reference Sarah Everard Eleanor, especially when I learnt it was London & cops acting disgracefully during the pandemic! What’s haunting is that last picture of the sisters in the dark when u can’t fully make out their pose. To anyone probably wondering why she hadn’t covered Wayne Couzens, don’t worry, Eleanor found something SOMEHOW EVEN MORE FUCKED UP!!! 😱😱😱😱😱😱
u could make such a funny bloopers vid lol 😝
US - Chicks 🐤
UK - Birds ☕️
As someone who is neurodivergent, he might have been doing something called stimming in court. That mixed with the severe lack of social cues and social skills probably didn’t help.
Bibaa was my social worker around the ages of 7-9. I’d heard about the case and the issues with the police surrounding it but never knew who the victims were. My grandmother informed me back in 2022 and my heart shattered knowing a woman who tried so hard to help me in my childhood had something so vile done to her.
I'm sorry
Sorry to hear that 😞
I'm deeply sorry for your losses and heartbreak. Grief is just a period of time and your life meant everything to her. If you keep in mind "I love my life as much as I loved Bibba's life" her memory and message will always surround us and her memory won't be remembered only as a victim to a horrendous crime but, as a beautiful person who lived a beautiful life and made a positive impact on your life and the world because you can see she was clearly a beacon of light. I wish you well ❤
Wow!!! I’m so sorry. How heart-breaking! No one deserves a death like this!!
That’s soo sad
If doctors have to go through school for so many years to be educated and trained enough to be trusted with our bodies, I think the same should go for cops.
I know of at least two in the same southern american Co. that have backgrounds that SHOULD NOT allow them to be police.
One was in uniform, off duty, got until a fight outside a bar and shot his duty gun in the air. He was fired, then later accepted back to the same town. Another one is a dv abuser, has already received several complaints, hasn't finished his cop training yet (idk what the program is called) and is already working on duty with a gun he's not certified to have.
:).
Help us.
Anyone.
Wtf.
They now have to have a degree which is good as I’m a criminology student and the lengths the professional policing lecturers go through to make sure the standards are upheld are amazing. A student in my class recently was liking victim blaming comments and he was under review for weeks and later kicked off the course. They have meetings twice a week too to cover issues in the police and corruption.
They at least need to be screened better
Not city or "local" cops... state police usually need a degree or some sort of higher training. But most city and local cops, I highly doubt have any degree. @lyanneroberts7936
@@lyanneroberts7936not true, no degree required for the majority of forces across uk . But glad your degree upholds high standards
I will NEVER understand racism and discrimination. How can anyone ever think “oh whatever, two women vanished from a field in the dark, who cares”.
Very sad
Are you American? I'm just curious. The past of people from Africa is indeed a story to tell.
Imagine what it feels like knowing about 90% of the people who see you anywhere hate you? Obviously, the two entities clearly stayed how they felt. Are you starting to understand how some people are VERY angry?
@@t.j.7789 I am not, I am from The Netherlands. I have had many history lessons in the past, so I know the extent of the abuse POC endured and still endure. I just will never understand what goes on in the mind of someone who hates POC/people with different cultural backgrounds. It makes me sick
@@michellesnip6901 wow great virtue signalling lol. typical yt person with 0 self respect
@@SohamMehta-bg3ds lmao what are you on about? I am not here to prove myself or my morals. I am simply confused as to why people are filled with hatred. There is no reason to be, whatsoever
So young, so vibrant.
it's so unfair.
That evil monster had no right.
Thankful to those police officers who snitched on those two... There needs to be FAR more regulation on who is allowed into the police force, because some people clearly should NEVER have access to that kind of power.
all the parents who blame their kids behaviour on 'hanging out with the wrong crowd' half of them dont realise their kid is the head of the 'wrong crowd'
When I read that it struck me as funny because their son is the one who committed murder ALONE. Not in a crowd.. wonder if anyone else in that “crowd” committed murder. I’d venture to guess probably not. I hate when parents blame others for their own child’s behavior instead of holding their own child accountable.
That is not true some kidsfallinton the wrong crowd becausee they areweak anddinsecure so theyfall intow certain groups. This is such an uneducated statementt
Like yours maybe?
@@V_for_Vuck im not a parent but i can tell u to grow up
@@queeng5925 you could tell me to grow up! But you can't say what parents be thinking or saying when you don't know the first thing about being a parent! So maybe you should do some growing up
Whenever she says “i mean no disrespect to anyone in this video” my brain always goes “except the culprit(s), full disrespect to them. They don’t deserve respect”
REALL
the culprit and that koetting guy lol
The culprits and Casey Anthony
Same….
😂😂me too!!
I'm an Australian and our cops are racist and crappy here too. A friend of mine actually sued them. They issued her a move on notice at a train station. She wasn't drunk, she wasn't making any noise, it was late and she was just waiting for her train, but her shirt had an anti cop slogan because she had been at a police brutality rally in the city that day and was heading home. When she told them that she was moving on, in that she was waiting for a train to take her home, the police beat the absolute shit out of her. Knocked her teeth out and everything. She won her lawsuit thankfully, but those cops are pigs. As far as I know, they're still active policemen 😡
jesus i hope your friend is alright now that’s horrific
The fact that they proved the point of the anti-cop slogan on her shirt is ironic. And they proved even more why people attend those kinds of rallies in the first place. I’m glad your friend is okay and thank God she won her law suit. I hope she never experiences anything like that again.
I mean not all Aussie cops are pigs. I live in Australia too and the local police where I live are all very nice
@@sydtait
If you were eating a bowl of candies, and then you were told that, say, 10% of those candies contained lethal doses of poison, would you feel better knowing that it wasn't all of the candies?
My friend is doing much better now. Living her best life, and still goes to every rally she can
Hi! I'm a Criminal Psychology student, and we often study cases like this, where the killer pose the victims body. My theory for the embrace posing he did with Bibaa and Nicole is that he was trying to bring a sense of belonging/fondness to the scene. He saw those two sisters, happy, laughing and having fun with each other, something that he was never able to do, either with friends or his own siblings, and because of that he put them in a "hug". It's almost like he's saying: "keep being affectionate."
But don't think for a moment that he was trying to be respectful. I'm pretty sure that embrace was a way for him to satisfy his own urges of being loved and love too.
Copying my thoughts I already left on here in reply to you to share them:
My first thought was that he singled them out because he thought they were lovers. I'm sure they were giggling, hugging, and having a fun time and he took that as them being a couple out on a picnic, and did not know it was just a fun birthday night for sisters. Perhaps he was homophobic and posed them as the lovers embracing that he thought they were? As a grotesque way to tell why it was them he targeted?
Oh! And even more so he targeted them thinking they were a couple, because seeing as he was angry he couldn't get a gf himself, his thought process was probably something like, "how dare these two girls be together instead of being with me! I'll make them pay for choosing each other and no one choosing me!"
I personally think it’s some satanic sort of thing
Not usually one to comment but wanted to say thank you for using the correct terminology around Autism and explaining why we don’t use ‘high and low’ functioning anymore!!! So good to hear people getting it right!
if you wouldn't usually you shouldn't start now
@@jaylacarroll7284 Wow, no need to be rude; ever heard the saying "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all"? "You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar"? Your comment was so unnecessary. Please be more thoughtful about how your words can affect people in the future; taking advantage of the anonymity the Internet affords you by being mean for no good reason is not okay, nor is it funny.
But there are tho? Ofc it will still be incredibly diverse but there's still gonna be those who can't just "function" in society
"Being a girl with a sister is an indescribable feeling." Every time I am on call with my sister I ask her if she loves me and she says no, but she also insists on staying on video call with me for 6 hours especially when mom's not home because she feels the need to babysit me (I'm 23) and keep me company.
Indeed indescribable.
Siblings would never say they love you
They show it lolol
I have 4 and a daughter and I'm constantly praying
Damn me and my sisters have a rocky/bad relationship
I will always tell my siblings I love them, regardless of the way they respond.
So relatable. Me and my twin are similar we show affection and love differently lol.
Demons left him on read, how embarrassing for him.
The demons don't even exist!
crying they left bro on open
I mean he only fulfilled 1/3 of his contract
He got what he wanted-two sacrifices-and let him fall like a potato
@@lushdontu4015yes they do
It’s sad how the family had to start the investigation for the police like…. WAS IT TOO HARD TO SEARCH THE LAST PLACE THEY WERE SEEN 🤨, and the cops weren’t even giving the bare minimum / effort in the case
This case is soaked in racism and misogyny around every corner
Stephen Lawrence family had to do the same thing. The police in this country don’t care bout people of colour.
Horrible that they had to find their loved ones in that condition. They even found the murder weapon. Who knows how long it would have taken for the women to be located if the family didn’t take it upon themselves. Likely it would have been some random stranger who stumbled upon them which would also be traumatizing for them. The crime scene would have also been further contaminated and evidence could have been lost. If a significant time had gone by even the CCTV footage could have been lost, especially in private cameras. The officers showed a complete lack of care, but it’s not surprising considering the two who took disgusting photos.
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Its absolutely disgraceful :( these poor women, this poor family and loved ones . Just heartbreaking. 😢
23:45 "these two pigs"
I absolutely LOVE the way you said that. They really are nothing but disgusting pigs. May the two ladies rest in peace and my condolences go out to the families and everyone who knew these beautiful women.
your birthday and your "death day" having the same date is just gut wrenching
It is absolutely devastating. We lost my niece on her 18th birthday.
It really is.
I'm sure their is some type of lore on dying on ones birthday.....can't remember now but I will have a look.
Just awful for the pair of them.
I love how she said "dancing in a field" like she was having the time of her life with her sister. Only for some sicko to cut their lives short, awful.
Police are completely shocking and disgusting.
@@selenawilson9085 i'm so sorry! i can't even begin to imagine the pain of such an event
@ilaneattar4891 thank you. It was and still is hard. That day is one of the worst memories of my adult life, and it's just tragic not being able to remember her birthday without having it mixed with such pain.
Actually wait all week for these, the way she tells the story’s to do the victims justice is so amazing
I agree! Eleanor and Kendall Rae are the best ones to watch in this genre, because they put a lot of care and respect into these, and really do the victims justice by telling their stories respectfully ❤
So do I
@@Em45567 I agree. Mollie Westbrook and Danielle Kirsty are amazing too.
Me too
@@kristinedobrovolska4727what about danielle hallan?
the way the cops treated those two women is disgusting.
Yes. We have a long breakdown of the killers MO but what is the MO of those disgusting cops? What's their excuse?
Victoms can't even rest in death
Yep, they are human garbage🤮🤮🤮
Very disgusting
@@cosmicsquirrel7642she mentions this in the video.
I met the mother of these two beautiful girls. She is an absolute Queen and what she does to raise awareness is amazing. Hearing this story directly from their mum was harrowing and heartbreaking. Rest in peace, beautiful girls!❤
As an autistic person I rlly appreciate u explaining that aspergers is outdated and especially not using functioning labels in favour of support needs, thank you !
i have Asperger's and i prefer it being called that as its always how its been said to me but why dont people like it no more?
@@BluBond Hans Asperger worked with the Nazis during the Holocaust and his abhorrent descriptions of some autistic children as being less ‘worthwhile’ than others led to dozens of children being sent to a Nazi clinic, where they were murdered.
its named after a nazi so theyre changing it, it also doesnt clearly differentiate it from autism spectrum disorder
@@BluBondits named after a n*zi
@@BluBondBack in WWII, they were killing any child who were ill or disabled (because eugenics), but one pediatrician called Hans Asperger decided to “spare” some of the kids because they could be useful on his researches on autism. The 800 kids he wanted to keep were sent to a clinic where he experimented on or killed those kids, but this fact was hidden from the public. All we knew was that his research led to a better understanding of autism. He deemed that those kids were some sort of different branch of autism and then the term Asperger’s syndrome was born. It isnt a different type of autism though, its just autism. Lower or higher needs for accommodations. Thats why we call it a spectrum. The truth about him came out in 2018 which is fairly recent so the change hasnt been made worldwide yet.
My apologies for the long reply to your comment, im just really passionate about the topic. Also, dont feel obligated to stop using the term for yourself. Many people will tell you its wrong to keep it, but frankly its none of their business what you feel comfortable using for yourself. Some autistic folks ditched it, some kept it, personally i ditched it but i would never judge someone for keeping their initial diagnosis. When you’ve identified as something for so long, it can be hard or even heartbreaking to change it.
@@BluBondbecause the guy who made the term was a Nazi
I just wanted to say, as a mother to an autistic little boy, thank you for clarifying that Asperger’s is an outdated term and that it’s improper to use “functioning” labels now AND for including the proper terminology in your explanation. A lot of people don’t know this still, so I really appreciate you taking the extra time to mention it. 😊
Can I respectfully ask why the new terms are better? Not trying to be offensive or anything genuinely trying to learn
@@theamiablepirateroberts7839asperger is the last name of a man who decided which autistic people could live and which were “too autistic” and needed to be rid of
@@theamiablepirateroberts7839a lot of people see people with autism as broken, there was once a symbol of a missing puzzle piece to represent those with autism. Those symbols and terms are clearly hurtful cause it insinuates that there is something wrong with us, or “missing”. Now, the symbol is an infinity symbol and those represents the vast spectrum autism really is. We are all different and require different things to keep this world as manageable for us as possible.
TLDR: old puzzle symbol: hurtful and says people with autism are broken
New infinity symbol: respectful and accurate of the autistic spectrum
Low support: still having regular challenges that those without autism don’t have, but are able to find coping skills to help themselves
High support: have regular challenges that those without autism don’t have, but require more extensive care and support to get by
@juliasugarbaker9032 it can definitely depend on preference and what that person is comfortable with :)) although many people see autism as one thing, it’s a spectrum so whatever works for one person might not work for someone else. It’s not to be compared or belittled.
I also have level 1 autism and do face every day struggles, but I personally am comfortable saying I have autism because the people I surround myself with understand that that is a spectrum and although society may not look at me and guess I have autism, once they get to know me, it’s pretty clear
Your challenges with Asperger’s are valid and I enjoy hearing about different perspectives other than my own so thank you for sharing :>
An aspie here. It’s very different than other autistic terms and all the changes are for the worst. Why? Because none of the studies are specialized anymore so research is now useless.
Like Kobe Bryant and daughter the police/first responders took photos and shared them at the bar. His wife sued and won for damages.
Wtfffffff how disgusting that they felt it was okay to do that, so horrible man
WHAT?? I’d never heard of that. That’s so awful omg wtf
I remember that! It was alleged that a few of them sold some of the photos to TMZ
@@bakedtiffany3152yeah the photos were on twitter for a while they were awful
@bakedtiffany3152 that so inhumane of them
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the reason people said he was creepy was because, he was a creep. The sort of creep who watches girls with lust and resentment deep enough to make a pact with demons. He saw those gorgeous sisters laughing and dancing and decided he'd kill them. Creepy as shit.
Unfortunately a lot of young guys who are creeps either don’t realize that they are, or just embrace the term and idolize terrible people who’ve gone on to do horrible things (a la “supreme gentleman” type bs). My younger brother went through a stage of that in high school, but thankfully he chose to identify with fictional characters (especially Travis Bickle) and thought the real-life ones were self-important idiot drama queens. Rightfully so.
Yeah I thought the same. He was a creep and they sensed it. I seriously doubt they called him that to his face. I’m sure they were asked about him after the double murder and they were like- yeah that guy was creepy.
I have a creepy guy at my work who's very self centered, and thinks he's above others especially women, but I worry about his mental state sometimes. They just act a little passive aggressive, predatorial, as if they could strike at any moment.@@cloudfaulk4640
@@cloudfaulk4640 yes young men need to learn what is appropriate and what is not. We can't expect them to automatically know. If you get told you're a creep that might be a good time to examine your behavior and social interactions.
@@cosmicsquirrel7642except we can ask them to automatically know. how come girls aren’t often qualified as “creeps” ? we know. they should too.
Here in the U.S., if a cop gets fired for being horrible, usually they can just get the exact same job in another state or even county within the same state.
I’ve seen this happen with school teachers too. It’s disappointing.
Ew
Disgusting!
I live in the small town in Australia where a police officer tasered a 46kg, 94 year old woman with dementia in a nursing home, who went on to die from the injuries she sustained from the (i'm going to call it) assault. This made international news, and it was devastating for our small community - it's so unbelievably disgusting how some of these people trusted to protect us get too drunk on the power they're given. This story about these women is so devastating, yet so unsurprising. Surely we can do better.
OMG why did they do that? X
Wow, I’ve seen the pics of them with the fairy lights so many times in “photos with dark backstories” videos but nobody said that there was this much to it, thank you for always going so in depth
Eleanor Neale is a literal queen. The way she tells the story in a way that gives the victims justice is incredible
Definitely one of the best true crime channels I’ve watched been a loyal Eleanor fan since I first watched her Rhys jones case cover she’s incredible and another true crime channel I’d recommend is a guy called evil among us check him out he goes into the psychology of the killers as well as some lovely tributes to the victims
Not bad to look at either
@@charlessarver1637okay charles..
@@charlessarver1637 yeah she's pretty dude get your hand out of your pants its a fucking true crime video, her looks have actually ZERO to do with anything and you being creepy about it is also weird. "isnt that bad to look at" thats fucking weird, thats weird to hear on the RECEIVING END, its not flattering. learn to talk to and about people you dont know.
@@charlessarver1637gross.
I love the way how she speaks with sensitivity, but still in a way that is really interesting and makes me wait every week for a new video.
The obvious negligence from police in so many of these cases is so wrong. Makes me so gd angry.
You did an awesome job sharing these beautiful sisters ' lives . R.I.P. girls.
I really love seeing Eleanor’s personality come out in these more recent videos. Makes me laugh and feel a bit better with such a heavy topic. Makes me feel like I’m just having a conversation with a good friend
Jobs that attract psychopaths-#7 law enforcement.
I hate to say it but that's not surprising. I've also heard a lot of coppers use to be school yard bullies as kids
I would hate to know what #1 is
@@raigenhuss7030 I'd be curious actually
@@raigenhuss7030 No's 1 and 2 are CEO and Lawyer. No. 8 is clergyman. Chef is no. 9.
Priests and scout leaders!! And truckers/ lorry drivers. So many of these are pedos, rapists, or serial killers
I love the idea that Nicole saved so many lives by putting up such a fight ❤
she's actually a hero, i think the reason his blood was even at the crime scene was because of her. its so sad that hers and bibaas life was cut so so short
Imagine being that girl and finding out that this despicable human being committed double murder to hit on you. That’s unhinged on many levels, but knowing that I would never rest a day in my life afterwards. The level of guilt I would carry, if someone knows her make sure she’s okay and knows that she has absolutely nothing to do with that situation.
i doubt shes been told?? it would have nothing to gain surely?
@@dannysstart2218She absolutely would have been told if the killer brought her up
Hey Eleanor.
Thank you for never shying away from giving us the truth, even when it's ugly and violent. Thank you for being passionate, for giving us the perspective to remember those taken from us with deep reverence. Thank you for never being afraid to stand up against the systems that fail us. Thank you for being a voice for women, for people of color, for victims in poverty, for queer people and even other demographics.
I firmly believe you were made for this job and I've been here on this channel for years. Keep your light. ❤
This entire case is extremely devastating. I’m so happy you share these kinda of cases and keeping the victims always in mind
My lemon theory: when I was younger I loved spies and shit, so my friends and I would write notes back and forth in invisible ink. A trick that we used to use for this was writing in lemon juice -- if you dip a quill in lemon juice and write with it, the writing won't show up unless you put it over something hot, for which we used to use candles. You could write crazy secret messages over normal ones by doing that. I think that's what he was doing -- either he wrote more stuff on the contracts in invisible ink and was using candles to read it, or he wrote other contracts that weren't found because they looked blank.
Interesting thanks for sharing
My first thought was that he could have just been hungry and craving a lemon
I mean i crave citrus every once in a while.
But the invisible ink thing definitely makes sense
@@khaztheconfuser1466 reading your comment while drinking my lemon water and munching on lemon rn-
I think THIS theory is
🎯🎯🎯🎯....good
ENOUGH, I wish I could
tag Eleanor, to make
sure, she 👀 it
I had this same thought! I read about the lemon juice trick in something like the Famous Five maybe, and I immediately thought he was probably writing notes in it.
As a Londoner this story along with Sabina, Sarah over covid really hit home. Glad they’ve got their recognition. 🕊️
What are those lights in the sisters' picnic photo?
@@annon-10Fairy lights and little light wand things I’d assume - the imprint stays as little lines because of a camera setting (something to do with shutter speed or something like that? I can’t remember) which makes sense because Nicole was a photographer
@@controlbrains Thank you for your reply ❤️ Really appreciate it.
I just want to thank you for your sensitivity around your language when talking about ASDs and high support needs vs low support needs. We need more people like you to encourage the rest of us to be cognizant of what terms we use and to take our cues from the actual community we talk about. Bless you, Eleanor. Keep up the good work!
i was thinking the same thing!!! it’s very affirming and encouraging that a large creator actually did research on ASD instead of just saying daniel had asperger’s or “high functioning autism”. i wasn’t expecting her to say anything about high/low support needs but she did and i’m very grateful for that!
I absolutely agree! ❤
@@wmadar same here! I'm autistic and hearing her explain that made me really happy because more often than not creators won't use the right terminology and/or acknowledge when terminology is outdated, why that is and what to use instead
Have loved watching you over the years! You’re always so respectful of the victims and their families and also so sweet and charismatic. Love your channel. You and your team are amazing!
Thank you for always being so kind when talking about the victims. ❤
Thank you for calling out those disgusting excuses for humans.
The posing feels like another aspect of his whole sacrifice ideology. It feels like he was wrapping them up together as a nice little gift. Maybe he even thought it was important to let the demon know they were, without a doubt, meant to be his sacrifice. He was probably proud that he was able to offer a double sacrifice on his very first go. So disgusting.
as someone with autism, i just don’t understand this video :( because i understand all of the struggles, and i understand how in the end he was a bad person, but saying how its sad how he was ostracized and mocked by his peers and then calling him a loser without specifying why, just a senseless thing to put in
@@deezgamingHe hadn't done anything wrong while he was in school so him being bullied is sad, yes, but then he goes on to commit a horrible and disgusting double murder and promises to do atleast 6 more, so yes he does become a loser.
@@miakaidav18 thats what im saying tho, eleanor never even said what you said, could be taken in a different way!
@@deezgaming I completely understand you i just wanted to share what I thought about it.
@@deezgaming its bc you have autism that you have a harder time picking up on what she means butwhat this person said is the general consensus she was getting at (im also autistic btw just have an easier time with social comprehension is all :D)
My theory on the staging is that he may have thought they were a couple and not just friends or sisters. Given his far right beliefs he might have been trying to 'out' them or give a clue to his demon why he chose them. I'm angry at dad for recognising to the point of telling people, that his son would commit a horrible crime, but presumably didn't get him any help or intervein in any way.
Another excellent video! Love your work 🙂
Those were my first thoughts also. He desperately wanted a gf; and could’ve just been filled with hatred at seeing 2 women together (assuming they chose another woman over him). You see this a lot with incel behavior. He wouldn’t have seen the situation as it actually was (2 beautiful loving sisters just dancing and celebrating life).
This is exactly what I thought. With his beliefs he definitely saw two women laughing and having fun and instead of thinking friends or sisters he saw a gay couple. He was most definitely super homophobic.
Maybe they called him creepy and off putting, because he was creepy and off putting.
Real
Or maybe it was the ableism. Autistic people are ostracized constantly for being "off putting" etc.
@GaleForceKeil ??? I read an article about Jessie J. (who does not have Autism) and she said that she was awkward at that age and had to fake her confidence and that she came off as aggressive and off putting because of it. I, myself, was diagnosed with Aspergers as a child, and while it definitely impacted me socially (My parents had to prompt me to call and make plans with my friends who had Aspergers like me because none of us really had the skills to create a social life on our own) the popular kids at school actually liked me. I wasn't bullied at all and if one of them saw me out in public with my family, they would come up and give me a high five and say hello. So the mere fact that someone is on the spectrum doesn't make them engage in behavior that can be viewed as creepy and off putting.
@@richardiiibrinker492 I'm autistic too. I (and a lot of other autistic people) have the complete opposite experience. Me simply existing in my weird autistic way, trying to mind my own business, was enough to inspire my classmates to go out of their way to exclude, bully, harass, and torment me. Just necause they sensed something "off" about me, even when I tried to keep to myself and never did or said anything to them.
A LOT of people out there hate autistic people. To the point that they'll trip over themselves trying to find reasons t justify it, when really the only reason is ableism.
@@GaleForceKaif look fella. Obviously sucks that youve experienced treatment like that, and I genuinely sympathise with you for that, and hope going forward you dont need to experience that again.
But lets not be sticking up for a murderer. Listen to the things he said and done prior to murdering innocent people. This isnt him being called creepy and off putting because of his condition, its because of what he said and did, and he turned out an evil murderer, so in this case when he was called creepy, off putting and so on, it was right on the money and nothing to do with him being autistic.
Good luck in the future just dont be defending murdereers lad.
Can I just say I love the little bits of humor here and there, you make every case as light as possible. You are also very quick with them.
I’m so sorry to the family who lost these two amazing women.
This case is heartbreaking but it was so funny when El said “pronoun reveal” as if we all didn’t know it was a man.
Literallyyy
In Australia a cop just murdered two people :( I absolutely think there are good cops out there, but damn they need to do some better vetting, cause it's scary some of these psychos who get through recruitment.
Wait, what happened? I’m Aussie and really confused.
@@HelloHaveA_NiceDay a 28 year old senior constable, beau lamarre presented himself at a police station in bondi for the murder of his ex boyfriend jesse baird (26) and his new partner luke davies (29). prior to this confession a few of the mens belongings were found in a dumpster. the police then went to jesses home where they discovered a large amount of blood. a single bullet was found that matched to a nsw police firearm belonging to the officer. the gun has since been seized and is being examined.
Yes I’m Australian and too was shocked by the policeman killing his ex boyfriend and his new boyfriend….the fact this policeman was a former celebrity stalker should have been a red flag and he shouldn’t have been allowed to be in police force! They do need to do better personality assessments.
The police in this case were just so horrible, misogynistic, racist….i just think someone should have reported them earlier, I’m sure other people knew about their revolting behaviour.
The PREVENT program sounds good in theory, but if he’s still accessing all the dark content, it doesn’t sound like it works very well. I don’t believe watching that crazy demon TH-camr caused it either…I think that the murderer already had huge issues and he would have murdered no matter what he watched. I’m so glad Nicole fought back and helped get him caught….
@@liz3108 Totally, the guy in Aus had a history of stalking and obsessive behaviour, I am wondering how he got through all the police assessments. I thought they did really comprehensive mental health and personality assessments, but maybe I'm wrong.
@@HelloHaveA_NiceDay Google Jesse Baird.
I went to school with daniel, the day I heard about this case I was in shock. I wasn’t in the same year group as him I think I was in the year below but never heard about any of this. He was always quiet and I didn’t really see him talk to anyone. I also didn’t know about the police officers taking pictures in this case. I’ve watched previous video’s about this case but you definitely covered this the best. I pray for the victims families
Can’t believe what the police did with their dead bodies,should’ve been fired really. Love your videos Eleanor,you’re beautiful and talented as always and you always tell these stories with respect,keep it up.
you and your teams knowledge and scripting when talking about autism was phenomenal!! not many talk about high/low support needs instead of functioning. it’s obvious the amount of care you put into clear, correct information 💕
i wholeheartedly agree!!! 🫶🫶
My boyfriends dad is a cop pretty high up in his area. He has snitched on other officers before there are some good ones but sadly there are also the very bad ones that became cops for corrupt authoritarian reasons.
Glad to hear he was still willing to tell on other officers despite being higher up. Often (not always) Those higher up are more bothered about politics and covering their and the backs of others than justice. Glad to hear it ❤
It’s important because too often the blue wall of silence allows corrupt police officers to operate with impunity. It’s interestingly one of the few careers where shining a light on corruption gets a person labeled as a “snitch”.
In my career if we witness abuse, mistreatment, mistakes endangering patients lives we are obligated to report. Police officers are also supposed to be mandated reporters yet they are discouraged from telling on each other.
Exactly..my husband is a cop and a damn good one. Aggravates me so much with the bad officers who give the good ones a bad name. He works so hard to take care of his community. Unfortunately there's corruption everywhere. But he doesn't tolerate any of it.
As someone who was a manager at a busy pub at the time....eat out to help out was horrendous! It was the catalyst for so many people in the industry myself included, leaving hospitality and never going back! People were so entitled, obnoxious and rude!
I’m so happy you included the explaination about Asperger’s and functioning labels. The level of research really shows in how you explain things.
Hi Eleanor! Greetings from Maryland in the US. I love watching your videos and love the way that you tell stories. I'm especially loving Freaky Friday and can't wait for the next!! Thanks for all you and your team do for us. 😊
Omg huuuge respect for the correct and well researched explanation of terms relating to autism!! It's such a relief whenever I hear people discredit functioning labels, since I still see them used a lot outside of the autistic community by people who haven't researched.
Thank you for your heartfelt coverage of cases, rest in peace to those two beautiful souls.
Can you explain please Google gives me different answers. Why dont we say aspergers or high function or low function anymore?
@@purpleclaws202asperger’s is named after a n*zi
Part of me wonder if he posed them that way because he mistook the sisters as girlfriends? Like the posing and crime low key read to me as a hate crime in multiple ways. So I wonder if that was the case?
i’m thinking the same thing
Or it was demonic
Absolutely not. It was all satanic
Hearing you speak with such sensitivity and sympathy about the struggles Daniel must have faced with ASD honestly made me tear up. All three of my kids are on the spectrum, and my oldest will be 18 this year. He is the one who struggles the most with socializing. He has trouble with making conversation with people he doesn't know well, and keeping it going. He won't make eye contact - even the camera's "eye" when I take pictures. He says odd things that some people may find weird (like when he was obsessed with saying the letters "XD" over and over, or hated the number 19 - no idea why - and would skip it when counting). He doesn't show emotion on his face, so people can't tell if he likes a birthday present (and if you ask he'll just say "yeah." Which means he genuinely likes it - he is honest. He's just...unenthusiastic, even when he really likes something). Because of cartoons and movies when he was younger, he'll sometimes talk in a sing-song, because he doesn't understand people don't speak that way. So he might say, "Ooooh noooo, what are we going to dooooo?!" but, he's genuinely scared he just doesn't know how to express it. Despite seeing other people express emotion as an example his entire life, it doesn't seem to register. He is brilliant, sarcastic, funny, sweet, honest as the day is long, empathetic. If he says something that hurts you, he's crushed. But many people find him strange and off-putting.
Anyway, I related to that deeply. Thank you for your kindness and empathy, the research you do and the way you explain it. Much love from an ASD mama and fellow true crime fan in America.
as a late-diagnosed autistic person, i also really appreciated the way eleanor spoke about ASD and clarified the language that is now preferred. also, i wish your kiddos luck, and i hope you continue to support them as it is clear you are already extremely supportive! i know how hard it was to turn 18 and not know what to expect from life and the changes coming my way so i’m sending some good vibes to your oldest especially :)
@@wmadar Thank you! That means a lot. :)
God Bless you and your babies ❤
My son is also on the spectrum. He has taught me so much about life. More than I could ever teach him. He's a bluntly honest beautiful soul ❤ just full of absolute pure joy 😊
Hugs to you ❤
@@jxn1056 Thank you! Blessings and well-wishes sent your way! They are challenging sometimes (all three of mine are teens and preteens, heaven save me lol) but SO worth it! When they choose to give their love, they give it wholeheartedly and without strings!
I felt the same way. It made me sad, really, to hear all the things in the "contract" he'd written. He was so young and immature, and asked for things that all people want, but he didn't know how to get them. He just went about it in such a wrong way.
Daniels dream of ever getting a girlfriend is definitely over, but he may become someone else's in prison.
Word! 😂
😂😂😂😂 he will always be picking up the soap.
I love how passionate you are about these cases! 💕
This is really harrowing ... and people still wonder why slogans like ACAB are circulating...
huh whats acab?
@@Mythy-ws8es it means ‘all cops are bastards’
@@Mythy-ws8es all cops are bastards
@@Mythy-ws8esall cops are bad,i think it comes from the BLM movement
@@Mythy-ws8esall cops are bastards
Fryent is actually local to me. The primary school I went to was right next to the park. It always hits different when a case happens in your local area or near you. RIP Bibaa and Nicole you deserved justice and dignity ❤❤
Your voice was much needed today... like hearing a friend tell me about a case. Thank you !
Please please do the Ivan Milat case in Australia, if you haven't heard of it before it's shocking. I'm amazed more people don't talk about it.
Fellow Aussie here - I have 2 people in my life who hitchhiked with Ivan and didn’t realised until they saw his face on the news!! Always get chills when driving past the Belanglo State Forest 😞
Im an Aussie too, that is terrifying @@smuttybooksarelife
Ive heard of him many times but not the details, just that he was very evil. I would be interested in Eleanor doing a video on him.
It really upsets me everytime I hear about families having to set up searches and find their own loved ones while cops do nothing. We just had a young gentleman found near me that was reported missing and police literally told the family the one officer assigned to the case was going on vacation for 3 days so nothing would be done until he came back. Family found his body the next morning during a search party they organized, again. 😢
Eleanor has made my Tuesday 10 times better
This murder happened down the road from where i live. Which is scary.
Its terrifying, knowing how the police handled this. Its absolutely shocking!
me too. I grew up in Kingsbury and to hear Eleanor cover a case so close to him feels strange.
You are my favvvv thank you for another video and your respectful but not obnoxiously formal telling of this case not necessarily informal just you’re funny and you say your own thoughts you’re adorable lord of love xx
Ellie, I've been watching your videos for a few years now, and your storytelling and on-screen presence have come so far! I've always enjoyed watching you, but now you seem so much more comfortable and like I'm chatting with a friend. Thank you (and your team) for all your hard work week after week. ❤
My favourite quote this week: “where do they keep the demons?”
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This case is seriously messed up and sad in every way. thank you for bringing this to light. Prayers for the family ❤
I used to go to this country park all the time growing up, it was a 20 min walk from my house. I remember when it happened and then not being allowed to go back there, and now whenever I think of my memories in that park, by that lake, I just think of them
I took that Mental Health Check In half way through the video, but I came back to finish it!
I also find the more recent cases a bit harder to listen to, I don’t know why exactly because I know all the cases are real but the really recent ones feel more real.
I love your videos! 💕💕
You did an amazing job. Thank you for sharing this tragic story. Even though they are sometimes, these stories are hard to hear, let alone telling them, it's important to get these information out there. The world is a dark place with monsters hiding in the darkness, and you do a great deed by educating us so we can see the truth. Thank you 😊 keep up the good work 👏
This case is horrifying and evil. The fact that the police not only blatantly ignored the case and refused to search the park, leaving the family and friends of the victims to find their bodies THEMSELVES, which is incredibly traumatic and nobody should have to go through, but then for these two police officers to show off the bodies and make such misogynistic remarks about these two women who were brutally murdered, is just sickening. My heart goes out to Bibaa and Nicole's family.
These two girls deserved so so much more, my heart goes out to their friends and family 💕💕
Also,
I am so happy that your personality is shining through in these videos more and more! I love the cute bloopers of screwing words up and going on tangents, you are just so adorable 🥰
I’m glad you upload these stories without you I would never knew these cases even happened you tell the stories with respect and kindness to the victims ❤
I love saying “todays case takes place” along with you, every time.
i love how el's videos are becoming more and more like gossip sessions with your bestie 😊
Speaking as an autistic person, I feel school environments are always difficult for us. It also doesn't really matter if we tell that we are autistic or not our peers 9 out of 10 times will exclude us or say that we are creepy and unsettling. At this point being bullied and excluded in school is common for autistic people, if not bullied and excluded then most likely used if we are useful and know the subject well, then suddenly everyone is your best friend. They just often see us as wrong.
i wait so long for these genuinely. they’re so harrowing to listen to yet so interesting. i just find it insane (obviously in a bad way) how the murderers minds work. also eleanor’s voice makes it SO good‼️ keep going eleanor we all love your videos ❤️
The cops in Anchorage, Alaska are great from what I know personally and there’s a lot less to worry about than other states when it comes to the police force here. So sad for these women❤️ love you E!
That was soooo Crazy! Thank you for taking the time to research all of that!
The video has just started so I don’t have any case related comments yet, but instantly the picture of them together is so lovely. Those women were so beautiful and I can feel their energy through the picture
Love your current case selections and freaky Friday episodes, you are on fire recently! So well researched!
Eleanor posting while watching Eleanor is the best! You sweeten my after work/relaxation time at the circus 🥰
Misogynoir- hatred of, aversion to, or prejudice against Black women.
Misogynoir brings together the words “misogyny” and “noir" ( meaning “black” in French). A term referring to misogyny directed towards Black women where race and gender both play a role.
The term was coined by Black feminist writer Moya Bailey in 2008.
If you don't know about, plz learn. Almost anywhere there is misogyny there is also misogynior.
Thank you for covering this case Eleanor
So is it just another way of saying that they are a misogynist and a racist? :)
Once again, you (and your team) have done an incredible job on this video. You always give the victims so much respect and consideration, and I very much appreciate that.
I love these long videos but i need to watch like 3/4 times because her soothing voice sends me to sleep 💖
Those poor sisters- i pray they got the honor they deserved- Thank you Eleanor 😊
I always knew of this case from multiple "Chilling last photos of people" TH-cam videos with those pics of the faerie lights. I had no idea about the awful cop selfies until now...
I’m so glad you’ve covered this case this is 5 minutes from my house I will never forget following how horrific this case was
I love that you are an ally for women and so open about it. It’s one of the reasons why I love your videos so much. Us women are so hated in this world and all we have is each other.
I haven't heard of this case. How absolutely horrific 😢 Thank you Eleanor for the important work you do and for giving victims the voice they deserve. I cannot imagine how heart shattering this must have been for their loved ones
I love how a minority is racist against another minority. Jafar is a middle eastern name 😅I am middle eastern and he looks arab
He is!! Thats why this is even more wild 😭😭 I was like SIR WHITE SUPREMACISTS DON'T LIKE U EITHER!!
Exactly! And him being on the side of white racist screams 'pick me boy' 😮
ngl ive noticed a lot of middle eastern people just being rude, racist and colourist towards south asians. in saudi, they literally trick a bunch of south asians into working there as a chance of a better life and then literally made them slaves. in yemen, the houtis restored slavery based on race, colour of someones skin and ancestry
??? So can’t be racist?
Eleanor you never dissapoint! Thank you for your hard work and for bringing these stories to us!❤ can’t wait to watch it
I just started the video but i just wanted to say that you are absolutely glowing. You look amazing, ellie.
Thank you for talking about not using Asperger’s or functioning labels. And thank you for respecting the victims in this awful case.
Thanks for covering the story Eleanor this story hits close to home and its very sad