this is exactly why she's one of my favorite true crime youtubers. i honestly never checked out her videos before because i thought it was like that but finding out her videos are just her talking i am binging all of her videos sjnks
It's also more respectful for the victim and her family, I don't know if it's the same for you but when sound effect are used for that kind of video, I feel like I am watching a tv series and not an actual crime
I'm impressed at how caring her boyfriend sounded, instantly noticing her absence, checking to see if she was okay and contacting her mom. He must have been devastated :(
@@raeannaboehm619 yes. The fact that they had to explain why a man would kill a woman by making it ‘her fault’ bc she’s a s!u2 for having an affair and she ‘deserved’ it. Like my guys !! where’s the self awareness
@@pk-sc8iz society is making it her fault and that she deserved it for sleeping around. They’re like ‘eh. You know she put herself in that situation’. Same with r4pe cases, they use clothes or intoxication to say ‘they’re at fault!’
Kendra Melesky yes me too. I think he made a sexual advance towards her and then maybe she threatened him by saying she’ll tell everyone so he thought the best thing to do is kill her.
@@clod148 remember, she was very small, she was under 5'0 and very petite. I think that is why her stature was so emphasized in the beginning of the video.
The patriarchal justice system in action. We have the same here in Australia. How dare a girl leave her house looking pretty and expect to not be raped and murdered. Of course she must have been blackmailing him for a job making sandwiches all day (when she already had her dream job). The male run justice system in action (where men here used to get off for raping their wives because "they didn't do their duty"). Sick.
I know I’m late but I don’t really get why everyone thinks that people who comment a true fact apparently find it funny. Lily Kenny literally only said she was dragged out, what part of that makes any of you think they find this funny?? I’m not saying it is but how is this comment a joke because they never even said it was dark humour or a joke.
Why the hell did they reduce his sentence like what... a young 15 year old girl was brutally murdered. I don’t care if it was his first murder. He should get life in prison without parole.
makes no sense to me, i would like to ask the judge that question a child killer normally would get a full life sentence like the killer of april jones.when he comes up for parole hopefully her parents will be there to block his release .
^^^ I was gonna say the same thing 😂 it’s not exactly like a DUI or a misdemeanor charge where you get a lighter sentence because it’s your first offense. Also, how do we know it’s his first murder? Maybe it’s just the first time he got caught. Clearly he’s capable. Sickening! I hope he rots in there. So scary to think about how Paige just went to do something as normal and mundane as going to pick up a sandwich and never would have thought she’d be walking into a dangerous situation.
My theory: He caught a liking to her after her coming into the shop so much and being such a bright and cheery person. He, in his own sick mind, thought that she was into him. He made an advance at her which she refused. It pissed him off and he lost it and killed her. The amount of wounds definitely suggests a person who is not in their right mind. The sloppiness of it all makes it pretty clear he'd never done it before.
Brooklyn F. This story really gets to me because I’m almost the same age as Paige i’m the same height as her I honestly carry my phone around everywhere my mom is a literal angel her boyfriend is a sweetheart but I don’t have any siblings and yes my mom is my best friend but she’ll always be my mommy to hear that a girl with such a similar life went through such a horrible day that ended up in her death is really heartbreaking
Angee gee-g Cabello Grande It is scary being a petite woman. I’m also very similar in size to Paige. All you can do is listen to your gut and fight like hell.
@rain The point is men don’t have to be paranoid, but can a girl get a sandwich without being victimized? “Most of the time” he says. Oh how comforting thanks man! Keep handing out 24 yr sentences and it won’t change.
he's clearly lying about her threatening him to get a job, she had a hairdressing job, that probably paid more than some random deli unless he was selling morphe palettes
it genuinely amazes me how society has tried to turn an innocent fifteen year olds murder on herself, does it often occur that a happy teen with a great boyfriend cheats with an old geezer twice her age?!
I think maybe he was obsessed with her and when he tried to make a move that day, she was disgusted and rejected him so he completely lost his shit. She came into the deli often enough for him to notice her and start fixating on her. Also knife attacks are usually crimes of passion and judging by the state of her neck, her murderer was very angry. This was personal for him.
I believe he offered her a job to get her into the back to sign the papers, then tried to hit on her, she rejected and he became angry and murdered her :/
Sociopath. Plain and simple. He was watching her and probably killed her because she reminded him of his daughter who he probably had sexual impulses twards and was repressing. Page was killed with rage. So, that's my take on this.
I believe he might have actually tried something on her, she refused, then he got violent. Plus he has a sex offender sibling, same genetics, same environment they grew up in, and he just HAD to make up an excuse about something sexual going on? That's no coincidence. The apple doesn't fall far from the other.
STELLAR! You should read into twin studies into crime if one twin has committed a crime the other twin is 81% more likely to commit crime even in circumstances where the other twin does not see each other or live together further proof that crime can be genetic
@@DrewMitchell-db1sk Yea its like that twins and triplets study that was never published where they were each placed in adopted families with different income/ social standing and they all turned out very similar. Way more things are genetic than people realise which scares people. It removes much the the free will we think we have.
This could be a possebility that he murdered her because of his sexual attraction to his own daughter, or that he was sexually attracted to Paige regardless, either way, a lot of rage was envolved here- could be because he hated himself for the possebility he is attracted to a young girl, or, that he was also *rejected* by her. Things like these are unfulfiled fantasies, that a person losing their control on them can get into a lot of frustrations when they can't come true. This could be also a direction for a person to follow the path of a typical serial killer.
I knew this girl, never actually met her but she was friends of friends, this is still one of the most horrifying things that has happened in my home town, watching this brought it back to when she first went missing, hits hard
There are so many comments on this one of people who knew her. I'm so sorry- isn't imagine having someone I knew and cared about being killed so awfully. My SO went to high-school with and was friends with this girl, Jessica Chambers who was absolutely brutally murdered in Mississippi. I remember when she died, how awful it was, and I had never even met her. I was simply dating a boy who knew her.
Funny, cause I wouldn't pay attention. Where I live people often get drunk and fall asleep everywhere - not surprising to hear someone snoring in the bushes, so I'd assume it's some drunk ass and move on.
Am I the only person who feels really bad for her boyfriend because he was the first person to genuinely start worrying because he always expected a good morning text idk I just feel like he wasn’t brought up enough ab how he felt in this case but I’m sure he was absolutely ripped apart
Murder cases don’t bring up people unless necessary. Unsure as to what you think should’ve been done differently. He was her boyfriend so of course he would be devastated as were all her friends and family
Im his sister. He was devastated, we were waiting on her coming to ours after work coz we hadnt heard from her all day but just assumed she was at work until she didnt show up at ours house, please just leave my brother out of ur comments x
When John said he couldn’t remember seeing Paige in the shop, his statement is already disproven by Ashy Ahmed’s Statement about John “...I spoke to him later and he said she was cheery and bright...”
idkgirl productions I know, he is sick and then tries to make Paige look like a bad person by saying that she threatened him, which I don’t believe for a second. She was happy with her job at the salon so why would she want another job. Makes no sense whatsoever.
can we talk about the absolute legend that is paige’s mum? what a beautiful soul, everything she’s done to commemorate her beautiful girl just shows how much thorough and genuine love she had for her daughter. breaks my heart:(
Literally. I swear there’s sexism in some of these cases. Like they can never accept that some men are just disgusting and rape and murder, it’s always gotta be the girls fault
I don't believe she was having an affair with him either, personally. Unfortunately, ppl that DO cheat often have a "lovely" significant other. When someone cheats it has nothing to do with the person being cheated on, and everything to do with the cheater themselves. I'm in NO way saying I believe she herself was having an affair with that creeper. I don't know enough about her to know whether she'd do such a thing, and it's unfair for ppl to speculate or point fingers when she can't defend herself. His accusation of her infidelity holds no weight in my opinion. Not exactly the character type I'd look to for an honest explanation of the events that transpired. Stay safe everyone 😷
The ONLY reason a pretty, young, confident young woman would be with an unattractive old man is if he's absurdly rich. A deli owner? No way in hell. And it's disgusting that he would drag her like that.
When you said he walked out in broad fucking daylight with a big bin bag my souls left my body I felt so empty. That whole pretty young lady was in there. Her how life discarded like rubbish. I’m so angry at it
Megan Murphy he got attacked in prison I’m pretty sure, he got put into protective care, I’m not too sure if it’s true but I have heard that, tbh he deserves a lot worse then prison
Pamela split up with her husband of the time. She has four children with him. Paige’s biological father who lived near me, died a while ago. He never got over her death. Pamela has just given birth to another baby boy with her new partner. She campaigns tirelessly for families of violent crime. She set up a charity fund for the same. The killing of a child often has repercussions for the family for years.
Us girls can’t do anything anymore. It’s scary to be living life like this!!! Such a cruel cruel world. Unbelievable! Poor girl🥺 she had such a beautiful life to live and some guy had to ruin it. This makes me feel so sick to my stomach.
To be fair this is the safest time in history to be a women. Often before in history when women were murdered (especially in domestic situations) they just thought it was justified so
Aw fuck off you pfftttt us girls can't do anything 🙄 hopefully the other guy commenting on your post saying im sorry you had to go through this was being sarcastic, since your a non victimised drama queen self made victim
Jacqui True, but the excess stab wounds just shows that the murderer really relished the murder. If he hadn’t actually sexually assault her prior to her death, it’s a very real possibility that he got off sexually to mutilating her. Very fucking weird, and sick. Also very dangerous- it would suggest that he had no qualms in killing someone to satisfy himself sexually, so could/would kill again, which makes the reduced sentence even more unbelievable.
@@nooneanonymous3340 100000% AGREE There was this serial murderer in the US that killed two 12-13yr old kids that were just having puppy love, you know, hugging, hand holding, maybe a quick kiss, etc and he did some time for their murders. The SOB got out and started killing prostitutes! I can't remember his name but if you like true crime/serial killer documentaries, etc then you'll know who I'm talking about. Just horrible. Effin horrible. Smh
I have no personal experience in stabbing anything, let alone people...but from my understanding, repeatedly stabbing someone is exhausting. To stab someone dozens of time, you would have to have a lot of rage for your adrenaline to be high enough to give you that endurance. What on earth was he so angry about? Does anyone think this may not have been his first murder?
Am I the only one that thinks he probably had a secret obsession with Paige. From when she was young. Hence why his kid was called Paige. Probably said ‘oh can you help me round back’ tried to rape her. She defended herself and he killed her. Maybe she threatened to tell people. And he got angry because he’s seen the effects. But he wanted her to suffer. And that’s all I have to say. He wanted her to suffer.
it’s clear that she refused him when he was probably trying to flirt and he got mad and killed her. with all the stab wounds and injuries you can tell he probably liked her a lot and got very angered when she didn’t like him back or show interest back
Łucídhìppíe Xo he was the first person to have a feeling something wasn’t right and was worried then contacted her family . I know her mum and step dad would have started to worry after she a while longer xx
@@chloelewis9369 I knew Paige and was very good friends with her she never let anyone down and always used to show up for her work in the morning it was so out of character for her to go missing I knew something was wrong too because I was mailing her the night before and she said she was looking forward for her work in the morning she seemed like her usual self happy and bubbly she always had a smile on her face even though she got bullied for being a small wee girl here in Glasgow it has brought us closer and we will never forget Paige we remember her as she was that gorgeous wee smile on her face and not by how she was taken away from us , it is horrendous that somebody c could actually do that to a human being to inflict that many injuries on such a tiny wee girl who just walked into the shop wanting hedr breakfast in the morning and then she is attacked it is very sickening I hope john the murderer spends the rest of his life suffering in jail there was no excuse for him to take Paige , she couldn't even defend herself even if she was bigger but yet again he wouldn't of took any bigger than Paige he really is a sick sick vile person who needs to be shot basically I hope Paige is proud for what we have been doing for her I know she will have a smile on her face and be grateful for all these lovely wee comments she gets from day to day she really was a pleasure and I always will miss her I didn't loose a friend I lost someone who is very special and has a heart of gold xxxx fly high Paige xxx
Honestly IF his story is true, he probably burned them or got rid of them cause in the beginning of the investigation he claimed that he didn’t see Paige the day she went missing. He probably got rid of the papers with her body (again IF his story was true, which it clearly isn’t)
it's tricky. What if you accidentally killed someone in a DUI? is your life just over? no. but yes, if you murdered someone on purpose, you deserve life in prison and maybe even death
I’m from Scotland, it was so awful seeing this case unfold. When she was first reported missing I just remember hoping that she was going to be found okay. I didn’t know Paige or even know of her before this tragic event but I knew people that knew of her and they were heartbroken, they all said she was a lovely girl. This case shocked Scotland, I’m glad people from other countries are getting to hear of this case as Paige was a beautiful girl, inside and out and her story deserves to be heard. Let’s remember Paige and not the monster who took her life.
Paige was the nicest girl ever, i went to the same dancing club as her and honestly she just was the nicest girl! I couldn’t believe that this happened to her💔its also heartbreaking that her dad died from a broken heart a few days ago☹️💔
wiktoria Gadek I’m so sorry you lost such a lovely friend. You must have some great memories with her though as she was such a sweet girl. It’s so tragic, I can’t even begin to imagine how he felt. At least he can be together with Paige forever now
@@wiktoriagadek256 she is so gorgeous ! And was respectful and would never blackmail anybody she always had a smile on her face hopefully she still has a smile now she is at peace miss you wee Paige miss you always xxxx
How could the cops not think he was a suspect when he first said he'd never seen her he didn't recognize her cuz so many people come in and out, but then all of a sudden he says oh yeah she comes in here all the time. That's the biggest red flag from the start before they saw the tape and stuff. What a sick twisted liar. That story of her threatening him was BS imo. Wth is wrong with the jury. 23 yrs for brutally murdering a child??
He was still regarded as a suspect; as law enforcement it's not a one at a time sort of thing, it's recording actions and any gained evidence and returning as seen fit to narrow things down in a calculated manner. (And a manner that cannot be pointed at by defense!) Even if a questioned individual seems ridiculous or fishy, it's your and your colleagues' duty to not jump to ANY abrupt conclusions and to always behave as neutral as possible so as to not affect the culprit's own behaviors. Due diligence in solving a case also significantly involves avoiding red herrings that can impede a just conclusion--as well as closure for the living victims of the tragedy.
@@xxkatiexxization how does that make any sense? if they were "pc warriors", they would be more disgusted by this. Yall just try to throw empathetic people under the bus any chance you get. And then you call use snowflakes even though you guys bring this shit up way more often lol. Get over yourself.
This time last week, I didn't know who Eleanor Neale was now I can't imagine life without her videos. I have been on the binging spree of all binging sprees and am wondering what the hell I will do with myself when I run out of videos. Thanks Eleanor for making the last few weeks of lockdown bearable
The start of the video: Eleanor: Paige even posted on facebook that her stepfather was 'the best thing that ever happened to her' Me: It's definitely the step-father The middle of the video: Eleanor: Her boyfriend and her never fought, so it was unusual for him not to get the texts Me: It's definitely the boyfriend The end of the video: Eleanor: It was a mystery to the police. The bin bag? The car? The deli closed for a while? Me: Duh. He's the murderer.
Jim Marshall no...you make assumptions. You then wait to have these assumptions confirmed, or proven wrong. And, if you deny that you make assumptions, I’d call you a liar. Everyone makes assumptions...EVERYONE.
Jim Marshall as are you! You did draw conclusions though, didn’t you? Lol. EVERYONE MAKES ASSUMPTIONS.....EVERYONE. you’re saying that some people have absolutely no instinct whatsoever?? It’s instinctual to make assumptions, that’s not arrogance, it’s the TRUTH, lol. YOU have assumed I’m arrogant....I’m just being factual. You twit. Get off of your self righteous pedestal. Hypocrite.
Jim Marshall you absolutely did assume. Just because you disagree with me, you assume I’m arrogant. With ONE comment?? So, let’s not say you know me because you disagree with my one comment. You don’t know me. You made your own assumptions, or....did you just want to be as condescending as possible? Lol. Which is it??
Jim Marshall so...you drew a conclusion from the assumption that I’m arrogant. You disagree with me, and your conclusion is that I’m arrogant....because you assume you disagree with me on everything, don’t you? Lol. Do you realise how stupid you come across as? You’re a hypocrite. You have just done exactly what you’re preaching that you don’t do. You.....are stupid, I’m assuming. If you had said that you found my comment arrogant...then fair enough. But, to assume I’m arrogant in everything I do, is the mother of all assumptions.
It's the same for some women. There just aren't many known cases of a woman killing someone just because they were rejected. It still makes me scared that one day I'm going to reject the wrong person because I have a boyfriend and they're going to snap and try to hurt me or worse.
@@Luna_Kosane I've seen and heard of girls bitching about being rejected and acting entitled But most or all of the cases of people being harmed, stalked or killed because they rejected an advance was done by men
@floofy yinez I don't know what was so wrong with my statement. I'm not saying that women don't get angry at being rejected. I'm just saying you hardly ever see stories of women going off the deep end and committing murder because they were rejected by someone. There have definitely been women who took rejection badly.
It boggles my mind that walking into a deli to get a freaking sandwich escalated so ridiculously... How does someone even go from something so mundane to something so brutal in such a short span of time? Surely he didn't plan this beforehand, he was so unprepared he had to go next door to buy his own murder clean-up kit! I don't know what kind of hatred that man was harboring for Paige or for women, or just for some specific person Paige was a surrogate for, but he should never EVER be allowed back on the streets...
My theory is that the dude was attracted to her and when he made his move on her and she didn't let him he killed her, the amount of times she was stabbed kind fit in this theory
I definitely think he had romantic feelings/was obsessed with her. The amount of wounds and their severity suggest a crime of passion and anger, which typically only happen when people know each other and happen in a lot of romantic-stemming crimes.
Idk I do enjoy watching these videos but comments like this are pretty fucking sick like imagine being her family seeing this, after burying their teenage daughter that was savagely murdered for no reason and y'all are like 'OMG OBSESSED, GAGGING YASSS', Have a fucking heart.
Well done, Paige. You fought so hard for your life. My heart breaks for you that you weren't able to win this fight. What an absolute monster he is. I hope he rots.
I'm from the US & I honestly like that you cover more cases abroad because when I find other TH-camrs that cover the same thing it's typically US only so it's nice for me to hear about other cases.
Helen Yates i feel like in england we have less crimes because im from england and all the tv shows about american homeosises and kidnaping ( i hope this doesnt go against you sorry if it does)
@@evelilyhall8679 No you're pretty accurate sadly. There are so many cases of murders and kidnappings that happen here. Where I live there are several of these cases on the news daily.
The camera footage at 24:22 completely freaks me out. There's people walking past when he drives away and they have no idea what's in that car and what's going on right next to them. It really makes you think, this stuff could be happening right in front of you and you'd never know :/
I was watching a programme a few months ago and someone did the same thing. A guy had put a woman’s dead body in a suitcase and was wheeling it behind him as he walked down the street. At one point, I think it was another woman, walked right past him and the suitcase. I turned to my mom who was sitting in the room with me and was like - ‘imagine just walking past someone like that and not knowing there was a dead body in the suitcase.’ And my mom replied saying she could hardly think about it because you could do it every day without knowing. Heck, who knows how many people walk past other people who will commit a severe crime like murder later in life. It’s not nice to think about tbh :/
It’s come out since Paige’s Death her dad (I’m not sure if it’s her biological dad or her stepfather) has died two years after Paige’s murder due to being heartbroken (August 2018)
@@teresabelshaw6694 It was. Although Paige's mother refutes the claim that his death was due to "a broken heart" over Paige's murder, because he never had any interest in seeing or being in Paige's life whatsoever. www-dailyrecord-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/paige-dohertys-mum-says-daughters-13158443.amp?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15775171643087&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailyrecord.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fscottish-news%2Fpaige-dohertys-mum-says-daughters-13158443
I knew he did it when he claimed he didn’t know who she was. When you work somewhere like that you not only know your customer’s faces, but even their usual order. Poor girl 💔
When I have regulars, or someone who I have had a good convo with and Remember certain details. Even with mask, even with it being a bigger store, not just a shop, i get to know the regulars.
Seriously! I work at a dry cleaners and it’s come to a point where I can even recognize customers cars. Someone that comes in multiple times a week you get to know and quite well, might I add.
@@selma8337 actually it's been known that most inmates really don't accept any child predator or if u mess with a child in any way if the guards don't seperate them. The other Inmates with beat them sometimes even to death because when they see someone like that they think of their kids n siblings
I find it extra creepy that John looks like such a kind, normal, happy person. When I look up the case there's all these photos of him looking like your typical nerdy dad. It gives me the chills to know that he's really a monster.
The comments section is for people who have watched the video to talk about it. Don't read the comment section before watching the video if you don't want spoilers.
I work at a maximum security prison and when I first started I was so shocked on how all these people who have commited horrible crimes look like your ordinary regular people. Its a big shock and it makes me more observant of those around me everywhere I go.
I don’t believe his story at all. I don’t believe she threatened to lie about it. I think he had some kind of sick obsession with her and wanted to kill her.
She was probably super nice to him every time she went in & he got obsessed. It sucks that girls can’t even be kind to people without fearing about a weirdo hurting us.
I actually dont mind you telling stories from primarily the England area because im from America. The stories you cover ive never heard of because im not from there. Truthfully if people from England dislike that you primarily cover cases from there or surrounding areas they should check out American crime TH-camrs. :D lol
yourlovelynightmare1 I am from England and have no problem with the stories being covered being primarily from England. Some of them I have never heard of, and even the ones I have I enjoy the way they are covered in depth on this channel. I’m unsure who is complaining, but they need to stop 😂😂
@@theantea4011 im not sure who has been filling her head with being sick of just hearing cases from England but they need to be quiet in my opinion. Haha we love whatever she covers from wherever, huh? :D
The people saying Pamela is "happy" in the interview how do you not know shes faking it? People do fake happiness and maybe she is really hurting. Or maybe that's not the case at all and maybe shes learned to stay strong for paige.
A lot of people don't cope with trauma the way we expect. Many rape victims seem distant, many people when family die seem oddly calm. This woman didn't seem happy to me. She was clearly hurting. But life moves on and I think she was doing the best she could.
@@oisinmccloskey6299 That is very true, but I think this commenter was kinda over exaggerating and was meaning to say that they were going to be more cautious when going outside. I don't want to put words in their mouth though, I was just thinking that because I also would say something along those lines when over exaggerating.
Paige's real father died of a broken heart 2 years after her death. I live in ClydeBank and her body was dumped 15 minutes from where I live, such a shame 4 years on.
Paiges boyfriend is my little brother, we were waiting on her coming to our house after work but then we found out she never even made it to work. It destroyed my brother. Too hard to watch this video but hope all is as accurate as it can be from an outsiders view
Ano the poor wee boy must have been in bits i hope he finds peace in hes life and goes on to do good things and maybe somehow somewhere down the line finds love again he's we girlfriend in heaven would want that for him poor wee lassie such a beautiful wane❤️
As horrible as the case is, I really really love how the mom is so active in bringing awareness to situations like these. Pamela went through something so hard in losing her daughter and yet she’s come out of it continuing to fight for those like Paige. Based on information shared about Paige and about how much of a bright light she was, I think that would be something she’d be extremely happy about. Her mom keeping her memory alive but also using the memory of her daughter to help others. That’s really powerful.
My boyfriend would realise I was missing cause we text everyday and I always replie and if I didn’t he would realise that something is wrong then he would probably ask my friends
He stabbed her with multiple weapons and hundreds of times? He was angry it was a crime of passion. What must his wife have thought? She had loved and had children with a man that could kill a young girl so violently probably because he wanted to sleep with her and she said no.
you took out all the important context... you know that she didn't mean it like that. she wish it were none too. you know it. so please don't think low of her
Another great example of why all girls and women need to know physical self defense! - always carry pepper spray, where if is easy to access (such as on your keychain or looped through your purse) - a small taser if possible, kept in your bag and locked - when you’re out by yourself, slip on some large and sharp rings on your fingers to create a sharp weapon if you throw a punch - when you form a fist with your hand, keep your thumb on the outside of your other fingers, laying across the others so that it doesn’t get in the way or break during a punch VERY IMPORTANT: - if it comes down to a brawl, do NOT give up. - scream, bite, kick his chins/crotch, stomp on his feet, hit his nose as hard as you can - use the base of your palm to strike upwards under the nostrils to shatter the nose, which will ruin their vision - claw their eyes, dig your nails into sensitive areas - make a big scene! Do NOT give up! This is way more common than it should be. Take some self defense courses. Don’t travel alone, if possible. I believe in you ladies, don’t become another number! ❤️
There are other forms of pepper spray you can legally carry in the UK. One spray I have seen on the market will actually dye the suspects face bright red for 72 hours, easily detected by the police.
Emily be safe. Learn self defence, educate yourself on how to get out of certain situations, pepper spray, taser (if legal) let friends or family know where you’re going and when you’re due back, set your phone up to have quick share location on and quick call emergency services buttons, if you work late at night and your work has security, ask them to escort you to your car if it’s late at night etc there are options.
No more Pomegranates Paige was 4ft 8in barely six stone and only wanted a roll. How could she fend off Leatham twice her size and weight and in a psychopathic rage? He locked the door on her, she had no way out. He butchered her with a knife, and a screwdriver. She had hundreds of injuries to her body, some defensive.
I love the fact that she doesn’t use unnecessary sound effects to make it more dramatic. It’s just her talking, telling it how it is.
YerARavenclawEmma 13 just say Shane Dawson
I can't stand that fucking shit lol
Amen, no loud sound effects, jarring imagery or music - it's wonderful
this is exactly why she's one of my favorite true crime youtubers. i honestly never checked out her videos before because i thought it was like that but finding out her videos are just her talking i am binging all of her videos sjnks
It's also more respectful for the victim and her family, I don't know if it's the same for you but when sound effect are used for that kind of video, I feel like I am watching a tv series and not an actual crime
I'm impressed at how caring her boyfriend sounded, instantly noticing her absence, checking to see if she was okay and contacting her mom. He must have been devastated :(
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Ikrrr
Super caring but I kinda suspected him though
@@sindu3 partners are always #1 suspect. I haven’t watched the video yet so it’s so interesting that it wasn’t him
@@sindu3 same
Those affair rumors sound like mean-spirited gossip. Trying to blame an innocent 15 year old for her own death
Yepp 100%
The sexism really shows
@@raeannaboehm619 yes. The fact that they had to explain why a man would kill a woman by making it ‘her fault’ bc she’s a s!u2 for having an affair and she ‘deserved’ it. Like my guys !! where’s the self awareness
@@jostewart3192 who said ‘she deserved it’ what 😂???
@@pk-sc8iz society is making it her fault and that she deserved it for sleeping around. They’re like ‘eh. You know she put herself in that situation’. Same with r4pe cases, they use clothes or intoxication to say ‘they’re at fault!’
It's so horrible to think that this man was literally a father of two children
One who has the same name like his victim 😥 He's a devil
Daughters as well🥺
Imagine being a mum and u have to tell your kids your dad killed someone
fr. its sadder when they are child predators WITH childeren. its disgusting
His kids are probably so depressed
It's scary to think if she just went to the other shop, this wouldn't happen.
Maybe it would have happened the week after. Or a month later. :-(
Not scary it’s sad 😔
@@alyssamariah235 its scary to think and its sad she went through this xx
Mia Presland yep ❤️
Sadie Sullivan you’re proud of yourself?
I believe the moms theory that he tried something and she denied him.
Is that Jimin in your background?
Kendra Melesky I agree because why would a 15 year old girl with a boyfriend try something with the Delhi man it doesn’t make sense
Yeah me too that is definitely what happened scum bag should never have had anything taken off his sentence
We have the same name :D
Kendra Melesky yes me too. I think he made a sexual advance towards her and then maybe she threatened him by saying she’ll tell everyone so he thought the best thing to do is kill her.
The biggest red flag is that she literally didn't come out of that shop until he brought a bin bag out
I dont understand how he carried her in a single bag. Eleanor mentioned her body was found whole, not chopped up or anything
@@clod148 remember, she was very small, she was under 5'0 and very petite. I think that is why her stature was so emphasized in the beginning of the video.
@@Cr0ssmyheart96 yea. She was 4'8
Edit:"grammar mistakes fixed"
Chloe Dobson she said that “human legs were found”.
@@st4rl0ver no the body was hidden and then somebody just saw the legs of the hidden body.
So he murders a defenseless girl who rejects him...and the court's like "omg totally ur sentence is way too long"
Like...piss off. Wow.
misogyny
@@laureauvray7948 definitely. If he had killed a teenage boy he would've gotten more time; they forgive him because at least it was just a girl.
The patriarchal justice system in action. We have the same here in Australia. How dare a girl leave her house looking pretty and expect to not be raped and murdered. Of course she must have been blackmailing him for a job making sandwiches all day (when she already had her dream job). The male run justice system in action (where men here used to get off for raping their wives because "they didn't do their duty"). Sick.
@@Odette321 I agree.
they want us 2 go ape shit on these imports!! and i fkn will if shit keeps getting let off !!! wtf
When they realised she never left the shop - chills.
Litarel~chills
She never left the shop ALIVE. She was dragged out 😗
lily Kenny Why are so many people commenting this thinking they're funny?
@@LLjmsss You mean literal?
I know I’m late but I don’t really get why everyone thinks that people who comment a true fact apparently find it funny. Lily Kenny literally only said she was dragged out, what part of that makes any of you think they find this funny?? I’m not saying it is but how is this comment a joke because they never even said it was dark humour or a joke.
I love when people say “wouldn’t hurt a fly” and I just think about all the times I’ve killed flys.
Very true especially in the summer.
yeahh i hate them to bits they scare me
@@mehek5948 I squash them to bits 🙈
I’ve not killed a fly, but I’ve killed a spider. Beware of me, I might just pinch u up in some paper lol
(If u don’t get it I’m gonna cry lol)
Ikr lmao
Why the hell did they reduce his sentence like what... a young 15 year old girl was brutally murdered. I don’t care if it was his first murder. He should get life in prison without parole.
Cool Sisters Show I thought paige’s mum said she didn’t look 20 sooo....
makes no sense to me, i would like to ask the judge that question a child killer normally would get a full life sentence like the killer of april jones.when he comes up for parole hopefully her parents will be there to block his release .
Yes, first murder, so why not give him a shot at another?
^^^ I was gonna say the same thing 😂 it’s not exactly like a DUI or a misdemeanor charge where you get a lighter sentence because it’s your first offense. Also, how do we know it’s his first murder? Maybe it’s just the first time he got caught. Clearly he’s capable. Sickening! I hope he rots in there. So scary to think about how Paige just went to do something as normal and mundane as going to pick up a sandwich and never would have thought she’d be walking into a dangerous situation.
@@bogratful n0mlllllll
Imagine actually being hit with the bag then growing up to realise you was hit with a dead body. I can’t even imagine how horrible that’s be
that will scar her for life when she realizes what was in that bag
What bag
@@daniels1263 the bag John carried to his car in the CCTV cameras, he ended up hitting a child with it, accidentally (i believe).
@@daniels1263 Pay attention, darling.
💀💀
My theory: He caught a liking to her after her coming into the shop so much and being such a bright and cheery person. He, in his own sick mind, thought that she was into him. He made an advance at her which she refused. It pissed him off and he lost it and killed her. The amount of wounds definitely suggests a person who is not in their right mind. The sloppiness of it all makes it pretty clear he'd never done it before.
Holly Drucker agreed
Makes sense really
Yeah I thought so too
I also do not think is a coincidence that his twin brother it ALSO happens to be a sex offender ...
It’s so sad
Im glad she doesn't use the eerie music and her voice is sooo nice
Same here, sometimes the music can be distracting
Ikr! It lowkey makes me scared so I love that she doesn't use it
Emma Jewel I’m not used to her voice since I’m American😂😂they way she talks is like so different
@@JazzyAllSports Really?
I'm American, but I'm really used to her accent for some reason..
The music makes me click off the video , it’s actually makes me depressed it sounds so odd
When mom's always complaining that I'm on my phone but that's gonna save me if I suddenly go silent one day
Extrovert Jellyfish
Same
Extrovert Jellyfish but I live with my mum so...
How will that save you though ?
M2DB your parents would know something is wrong if you’re always on your phone and then you go completely silent
@@inactivecakey445 yeah but then it might be too late .....
If someone kills someone and it wasn’t self defense, they should get life in prison. No matter what.
I don’t necessarily agree with that but I get where you are coming from
i agree
@@kadiiixox8574 why not?
@@kadiiixox8574 why not??
Because it could have been a murderer that they killed but not for self defence of that makes sense xx
Does anyone occasionally go on a watching spree on crime videos?
Everyday
I’ve been binge watching Kendall Rae and Eleanor for the last 2 days
Yassssss
mhm
Me
I hope the authorities kept their eye on the kids who lied about murdering Paige....seriously.
yh that's so sick
i mean what’s there to brag about? killing someone to seem hard? not really mate that’s just bloody sick
I feel like that is a cry for what might be to come. Something is wrong if you take pleasure in making up something as horrible as that.
9
They should go to a mental hospital
Her mom is such a warrior! Listening to her talk, she’s so level and clear. Such a senseless death.
I thought that it was clear because I’m Scottish 😂🤣
Brooklyn F. This story really gets to me because I’m almost the same age as Paige i’m the same height as her I honestly carry my phone around everywhere my mom is a literal angel her boyfriend is a sweetheart but I don’t have any siblings and yes my mom is my best friend but she’ll always be my mommy to hear that a girl with such a similar life went through such a horrible day that ended up in her death is really heartbreaking
ρeaᥴhy 。 Lol! I meant clear with her meanings not with her ascent. Haha Although I could understand her just fine. I’m American.
Angee gee-g Cabello Grande It is scary being a petite woman. I’m also very similar in size to Paige. All you can do is listen to your gut and fight like hell.
Brooklyn F. It’s even worse when you’re blind
the fact that he said “i would never want this to happen to my little girl” but then murdered paige is so sad :(
Can't even get your breakfast in the morning before work without having to worry about being murdered
It’s rare tho very
@@Kai-gs1ip I never said it wasn’t
@rain The point is men don’t have to be paranoid, but can a girl get a sandwich without being victimized? “Most of the time” he says. Oh how comforting thanks man! Keep handing out 24 yr sentences and it won’t change.
@@nonyab5640 Uh, I don't really get this sentence are you trying to say men can't get paranoid??? cause that's not true-
It's hard for women at times always feel like target I trust not many ppl. 🙈 Cruel place sometimes.
The thought of him nearly bumping into a child while poor Paige’s body was bundled into that bin bag makes me feel sick🤢🤢🤢
IKR imagine being that child and not knowing that a dead body was near you...
same. imagine the child bumping into the bag and feeling it moving around and the blood that is dropping out? like ew
@@reillysantos8579 bro .. what ?
@@purplemoonzie120 I know what he means but that’s just messed
@@reillysantos8579 🤔 🤔 serial killer???
I started crying when Eleanor said that Pamela started completing Paige’s bucket list for her. So sad and sweet.
Same it’s so sad what people do.
Same here
My heart literally broke in half
I need stop looking at comments before I finish these
Same hahaha it’s such a bad habit of mine
Same
it's just safe in the comments I need to stay here
doing that rn hahahah
fr im like whos eleanor and pamela 🤔
he's clearly lying about her threatening him to get a job, she had a hairdressing job, that probably paid more than some random deli unless he was selling morphe palettes
I think he probably was trying to come on to her and she turned him down. He got angry and killed her. What a shame.
@@Beena2020 it’s sad how far men can go when they don’t get what they want :/
@@amylocs1552 It's sad how far PEOPLE* can go when they don't get what they want :)
Nah, Morphe SUCKS hopefully she used better ❤️
@@Khoiithan ok
One brother is a rapist and the other one a murderer. This family has some serious issues.
No those brothers have some serious issues
*WTF?!* I hope you are safe
@@xoticcsl what
shut up
@@eliodiminica1901 no
im from scotland and i knew paige. I found some closure on this and it answered a load of questions i had.R.I.P paige
Becca it was on tv i watched it second time hearing it on this vid
Becca bless you 😚
I’m so sorry. My condolences for your loss. I don’t know how much you knew her but death impacts everyone.
Becca I’m from Scotland too xx
I'm so sorry, Rest in peace Paige ❤️
it genuinely amazes me how society has tried to turn an innocent fifteen year olds murder on herself, does it often occur that a happy teen with a great boyfriend cheats with an old geezer twice her age?!
yeah and the guy had a face that only a mother could love. Pathetic creep
I'm sorry but how did society do this
I think maybe he was obsessed with her and when he tried to make a move that day, she was disgusted and rejected him so he completely lost his shit. She came into the deli often enough for him to notice her and start fixating on her. Also knife attacks are usually crimes of passion and judging by the state of her neck, her murderer was very angry. This was personal for him.
agreed, he wouldnt have just killed her without reason tbf
i agree
I believe he offered her a job to get her into the back to sign the papers, then tried to hit on her, she rejected and he became angry and murdered her :/
Agreed
Sociopath. Plain and simple. He was watching her and probably killed her because she reminded him of his daughter who he probably had sexual impulses twards and was repressing. Page was killed with rage. So, that's my take on this.
I believe he might have actually tried something on her, she refused, then he got violent.
Plus he has a sex offender sibling, same genetics, same environment they grew up in, and he just HAD to make up an excuse about something sexual going on? That's no coincidence. The apple doesn't fall far from the other.
STELLAR! You should read into twin studies into crime if one twin has committed a crime the other twin is 81% more likely to commit crime even in circumstances where the other twin does not see each other or live together further proof that crime can be genetic
Drew Mitchell2000 that’s very interesting, and an impressively high likelihood, I’ll check those out, thank you
@@DrewMitchell-db1sk Yea its like that twins and triplets study that was never published where they were each placed in adopted families with different income/ social standing and they all turned out very similar. Way more things are genetic than people realise which scares people. It removes much the the free will we think we have.
This could be a possebility that he murdered her because of his sexual attraction to his own daughter, or that he was sexually attracted to Paige regardless, either way, a lot of rage was envolved here- could be because he hated himself for the possebility he is attracted to a young girl, or, that he was also *rejected* by her. Things like these are unfulfiled fantasies, that a person losing their control on them can get into a lot of frustrations when they can't come true. This could be also a direction for a person to follow the path of a typical serial killer.
I love how respectfully she tells the stories of the victims. No unnecessary drama, just the unfiltered facts.
Ikr
Strong Mum!
Shes the only true crime TH-camr I can watch
@@x_void_princess_x fr
@@2hotforu others make me uncomfortable
I knew this girl, never actually met her but she was friends of friends, this is still one of the most horrifying things that has happened in my home town, watching this brought it back to when she first went missing, hits hard
i’m so sorry
Oh my!! That’s so awful. Sending prayers and I hope you feel better about it. ❤️❤️
Same she was my big sister's best friend
@@MeMe-rp5tk wow!!
There are so many comments on this one of people who knew her. I'm so sorry- isn't imagine having someone I knew and cared about being killed so awfully.
My SO went to high-school with and was friends with this girl, Jessica Chambers who was absolutely brutally murdered in Mississippi. I remember when she died, how awful it was, and I had never even met her. I was simply dating a boy who knew her.
This is so messed up....
Imagine your a dog walker
And you see a PAIR OF LEGS in the BUSHES
That must have permanently scarred that lady
Silent Wolves Legacy well not anymore it doesn’t
Thank God my dog doesn't like the waling collar
Funny, cause I wouldn't pay attention. Where I live people often get drunk and fall asleep everywhere - not surprising to hear someone snoring in the bushes, so I'd assume it's some drunk ass and move on.
Marie Ren even if they are drunk you should still call an ambulance to see if they are ok next time
Honestly I’d think someone was sleeping maybe touch it with a stick and scream if I realized it was a dead body
Am I the only person who feels really bad for her boyfriend because he was the first person to genuinely start worrying because he always expected a good morning text idk I just feel like he wasn’t brought up enough ab how he felt in this case but I’m sure he was absolutely ripped apart
Murder cases don’t bring up people unless necessary. Unsure as to what you think should’ve been done differently. He was her boyfriend so of course he would be devastated as were all her friends and family
@@B0nnylassy I think they meant in this video's coverage of the case -but tbh there's only so much you can say. It must've been horrific.
Yea, I felt a tear well in my eye... :(
Im his sister. He was devastated, we were waiting on her coming to ours after work coz we hadnt heard from her all day but just assumed she was at work until she didnt show up at ours house, please just leave my brother out of ur comments x
@@billiejoe2791 that's cute
When John said he couldn’t remember seeing Paige in the shop, his statement is already disproven by Ashy Ahmed’s Statement about John “...I spoke to him later and he said she was cheery and bright...”
and then continues to say that theres no way he could remember everyone who comes in the shop... horrible man
That was the moment I knew he had killed her
Horrible Man
idkgirl productions I know, he is sick and then tries to make Paige look like a bad person by saying that she threatened him, which I don’t believe for a second. She was happy with her job at the salon so why would she want another job. Makes no sense whatsoever.
@@jasminkellingreis3622 My thoughts exactly! He didn't even attempt to make a good attempt at an excuse!
can we talk about the absolute legend that is paige’s mum? what a beautiful soul, everything she’s done to commemorate her beautiful girl just shows how much thorough and genuine love she had for her daughter. breaks my heart:(
How scary . This young girl walks into a sandwich shop like a normal day and she never walks back out 😢😢😢
she got carried out
@@justme9045 you're disgusting.
@@feyriefire they made a statement?
magickodes she’s just joking
@@lulu4825 joking about a victim, just so tasteful!
no, they're still disgusting.
She had a loving boyfriend who she’d text often, would she really have an affair with some old geezer twice her age, when she had someone lovely?
Literally. I swear there’s sexism in some of these cases. Like they can never accept that some men are just disgusting and rape and murder, it’s always gotta be the girls fault
I don't believe she was having an affair with him either, personally.
Unfortunately, ppl that DO cheat often have a "lovely" significant other. When someone cheats it has nothing to do with the person being cheated on, and everything to do with the cheater themselves. I'm in NO way saying I believe she herself was having an affair with that creeper. I don't know enough about her to know whether she'd do such a thing, and it's unfair for ppl to speculate or point fingers when she can't defend herself. His accusation of her infidelity holds no weight in my opinion. Not exactly the character type I'd look to for an honest explanation of the events that transpired.
Stay safe everyone 😷
The ONLY reason a pretty, young, confident young woman would be with an unattractive old man is if he's absurdly rich. A deli owner? No way in hell. And it's disgusting that he would drag her like that.
The fact that this was even a rumor is sick. It just shows how sexist people are towards young women.
@sleepy devil I don't know if you're being purposely obtuse but older men are not interested in young women for their personalities.
He said she filled out an application, did he have this said application?? I was curious about this.
I was thinking about that, too.
Omg good point
Probably not :3
M Hurley886 where was it in the court it probably was a fake alibi
he was fully lying 100%
why would a 15 year old girl that loved her job at a hairdressers want to work at a deli
When you said he walked out in broad fucking daylight with a big bin bag my souls left my body I felt so empty. That whole pretty young lady was in there. Her how life discarded like rubbish. I’m so angry at it
her mom is smiling during the interview but you can hear it in her voice and see the pain in her eyes, it breaks my heart
Life in prison for murder isn’t excessive...stabbing someone 500 times with 3 different weapons is excessive
Megan Murphy he got attacked in prison I’m pretty sure, he got put into protective care, I’m not too sure if it’s true but I have heard that, tbh he deserves a lot worse then prison
Aye exactly!
preach
CORRECT. ty.
hannah kerley no i think it’s 75
i cried when she said that they still buy her presents but they donate them
Ngl that part made my eyes water
Pamela split up with her husband of the time. She has four children with him. Paige’s biological father who lived near me, died a while ago. He never got over her death. Pamela has just given birth to another baby boy with her new partner. She campaigns tirelessly for families of violent crime. She set up a charity fund for the same. The killing of a child often has repercussions for the family for years.
Us girls can’t do anything anymore. It’s scary to be living life like this!!! Such a cruel cruel world. Unbelievable! Poor girl🥺 she had such a beautiful life to live and some guy had to ruin it. This makes me feel so sick to my stomach.
I'm so sry u have to deal with this you shouldn't have too
It is so sad what people do to girls. It makes me so sick.
To be fair this is the safest time in history to be a women. Often before in history when women were murdered (especially in domestic situations) they just thought it was justified so
@@beccapetherick552 This society still likes to blame the victims.
Aw fuck off you pfftttt us girls can't do anything 🙄 hopefully the other guy commenting on your post saying im sorry you had to go through this was being sarcastic, since your a non victimised drama queen self made victim
That many stab wounds shows a lot of anger. It’s overkill
One stab wound is over kill :(
Jacqui True, but the excess stab wounds just shows that the murderer really relished the murder. If he hadn’t actually sexually assault her prior to her death, it’s a very real possibility that he got off sexually to mutilating her. Very fucking weird, and sick. Also very dangerous- it would suggest that he had no qualms in killing someone to satisfy himself sexually, so could/would kill again, which makes the reduced sentence even more unbelievable.
@@nooneanonymous3340
100000% AGREE
There was this serial murderer in the US that killed two 12-13yr old kids that were just having puppy love, you know, hugging, hand holding, maybe a quick kiss, etc and he did some time for their murders. The SOB got out and started killing prostitutes! I can't remember his name but if you like true crime/serial killer documentaries, etc then you'll know who I'm talking about. Just horrible. Effin horrible. Smh
no pun intended
I have no personal experience in stabbing anything, let alone people...but from my understanding, repeatedly stabbing someone is exhausting. To stab someone dozens of time, you would have to have a lot of rage for your adrenaline to be high enough to give you that endurance. What on earth was he so angry about? Does anyone think this may not have been his first murder?
he probably had a weird crush on her, she was disgusted when he tried it on and then he murdered her. RIP paige whatever happened x
I doubt it
Sports Trader UK why?
RainbowArt She looked about 12 and wasn’t exactly what you would call a pretty girl. He’s a monster though
you do realise pedophiles exist right? there are men who fetishise petite women lmao
nina I think pedophilia is about age rather than how petite you are.
Am I the only one that thinks he probably had a secret obsession with Paige. From when she was young. Hence why his kid was called Paige. Probably said ‘oh can you help me round back’ tried to rape her. She defended herself and he killed her. Maybe she threatened to tell people. And he got angry because he’s seen the effects. But he wanted her to suffer. And that’s all I have to say. He wanted her to suffer.
Olivia Davies that’s what i was thinking.
I was thinking the same thing
YOU READ MY MIND
💯Percent Agree! Exactly what I was thinking 🤔
That sounds logical but you can't confirm it.
it’s clear that she refused him when he was probably trying to flirt and he got mad and killed her.
with all the stab wounds and injuries you can tell he probably liked her a lot and got very angered when she didn’t like him back or show interest back
Maybe he was just "killing" his wife's first child, whose name is also Paige, through killing Paige. I mean, it's a strange coincidence, isn't it?
Can we say Paige’s boyfriend was the best even though what happened wasn’t good he cared so deeply for her
Chloe Lewis what do u mean “even though what happened wasn’t good”. What did he do? X
Łucídhìppíe Xo he was the first person to have a feeling something wasn’t right and was worried then contacted her family . I know her mum and step dad would have started to worry after she a while longer xx
@@chloelewis9369 I knew Paige and was very good friends with her she never let anyone down and always used to show up for her work in the morning it was so out of character for her to go missing I knew something was wrong too because I was mailing her the night before and she said she was looking forward for her work in the morning she seemed like her usual self happy and bubbly she always had a smile on her face even though she got bullied for being a small wee girl here in Glasgow it has brought us closer and we will never forget Paige we remember her as she was that gorgeous wee smile on her face and not by how she was taken away from us , it is horrendous that somebody c could actually do that to a human being to inflict that many injuries on such a tiny wee girl who just walked into the shop wanting hedr breakfast in the morning and then she is attacked it is very sickening I hope john the murderer spends the rest of his life suffering in jail there was no excuse for him to take Paige , she couldn't even defend herself even if she was bigger but yet again he wouldn't of took any bigger than Paige he really is a sick sick vile person who needs to be shot basically I hope Paige is proud for what we have been doing for her I know she will have a smile on her face and be grateful for all these lovely wee comments she gets from day to day she really was a pleasure and I always will miss her I didn't loose a friend I lost someone who is very special and has a heart of gold xxxx fly high Paige xxx
sorry for ur loose
@@chloelewis9369 thank you so much means a lot xxx
If johns story was real where are the work documents that she “filled out?”
*where
this !!!!
Honestly IF his story is true, he probably burned them or got rid of them cause in the beginning of the investigation he claimed that he didn’t see Paige the day she went missing. He probably got rid of the papers with her body (again IF his story was true, which it clearly isn’t)
And why kill her if he just has to accept her application?
There was none she was never interested in a job there despite what he said she was asking older cousins to help her get a job in their salons.
I don’t care how or why, if you kill someone you should get life in prison. A life for life. Why is that not a thing.
it's tricky. What if you accidentally killed someone in a DUI? is your life just over? no. but yes, if you murdered someone on purpose, you deserve life in prison and maybe even death
@@amandaking4654 What if you were being attacked with a weapon and you killed for self defence? Like, you were gonna die if you didn't kill them.
Self defense should be excused if that rule was set in place
Jordyn Denise I agree. Although I don't agree with the death sentence I agree that murderers should get life in prison.
This topic is very tricky. But if it was a planned murder or the end result being to cause extreme harm, then i do agree with you
The bf must've been devestated, poor guy and poor paige :/
He was waiting for her text but never received it😭 and lost her💔
I’m from Scotland, it was so awful seeing this case unfold. When she was first reported missing I just remember hoping that she was going to be found okay. I didn’t know Paige or even know of her before this tragic event but I knew people that knew of her and they were heartbroken, they all said she was a lovely girl. This case shocked Scotland, I’m glad people from other countries are getting to hear of this case as Paige was a beautiful girl, inside and out and her story deserves to be heard. Let’s remember Paige and not the monster who took her life.
Paige will always be remembered with her smile and her positivity Sophie xxx
i’m from glasgow - less than half an hour away from paige and i remember seeing this being publicised everywhere :( so so sad
Paige was the nicest girl ever, i went to the same dancing club as her and honestly she just was the nicest girl! I couldn’t believe that this happened to her💔its also heartbreaking that her dad died from a broken heart a few days ago☹️💔
wiktoria Gadek I’m so sorry you lost such a lovely friend. You must have some great memories with her though as she was such a sweet girl. It’s so tragic, I can’t even begin to imagine how he felt. At least he can be together with Paige forever now
@@wiktoriagadek256 she is so gorgeous ! And was respectful and would never blackmail anybody she always had a smile on her face hopefully she still has a smile now she is at peace miss you wee Paige miss you always xxxx
How could the cops not think he was a suspect when he first said he'd never seen her he didn't recognize her cuz so many people come in and out, but then all of a sudden he says oh yeah she comes in here all the time. That's the biggest red flag from the start before they saw the tape and stuff. What a sick twisted liar. That story of her threatening him was BS imo. Wth is wrong with the jury. 23 yrs for brutally murdering a child??
He was still regarded as a suspect; as law enforcement it's not a one at a time sort of thing, it's recording actions and any gained evidence and returning as seen fit to narrow things down in a calculated manner. (And a manner that cannot be pointed at by defense!)
Even if a questioned individual seems ridiculous or fishy, it's your and your colleagues' duty to not jump to ANY abrupt conclusions and to always behave as neutral as possible so as to not affect the culprit's own behaviors.
Due diligence in solving a case also significantly involves avoiding red herrings that can impede a just conclusion--as well as closure for the living victims of the tragedy.
All of them probably pc warriors
Baby Dragon Yep it should been life
Life sentence in the UK is 25 years. Fucked up, I know. Especially in cases like poor Paige’s.
@@xxkatiexxization how does that make any sense? if they were "pc warriors", they would be more disgusted by this. Yall just try to throw empathetic people under the bus any chance you get. And then you call use snowflakes even though you guys bring this shit up way more often lol. Get over yourself.
Imagine pretending you murdered someone for attention
What do you mean?
@@sindu3 did u actually watch the video? lol
@@allylove6529 some asshole kid was pretending to be the murderer at the beginning of the investigation
@@allylove6529 ......the video......did you watch it or finish?
@@ventixoxo1447 did you?
This time last week, I didn't know who Eleanor Neale was now I can't imagine life without her videos. I have been on the binging spree of all binging sprees and am wondering what the hell I will do with myself when I run out of videos. Thanks Eleanor for making the last few weeks of lockdown bearable
Am I the only one who keeps staring at her eyebrows.
〈rose〉 meeee 2, i thought i was the only one, omg.
milkybujo I do too lol
They're so nice
GIRL SAME *i literally can't stop lmao*
The way they move is kind of satisfying
Is anyone else in l0ve with her makeup??
Me!!!! 😫 😱
*Her eyebrows though*
Georgie Carter yep
Yessss
Georgie Carter ikkk i keep staring at it😭
The start of the video:
Eleanor: Paige even posted on facebook that her stepfather was 'the best thing that ever happened to her'
Me: It's definitely the step-father
The middle of the video:
Eleanor: Her boyfriend and her never fought, so it was unusual for him not to get the texts
Me: It's definitely the boyfriend
The end of the video:
Eleanor: It was a mystery to the police. The bin bag? The car? The deli closed for a while?
Me: Duh. He's the murderer.
Ruby Jones when she said “I’m just going to call him John from now on...” I knew it was whoever this John was.
Jim Marshall no...you make assumptions. You then wait to have these assumptions confirmed, or proven wrong. And, if you deny that you make assumptions, I’d call you a liar. Everyone makes assumptions...EVERYONE.
Jim Marshall as are you! You did draw conclusions though, didn’t you? Lol. EVERYONE MAKES ASSUMPTIONS.....EVERYONE. you’re saying that some people have absolutely no instinct whatsoever?? It’s instinctual to make assumptions, that’s not arrogance, it’s the TRUTH, lol. YOU have assumed I’m arrogant....I’m just being factual. You twit. Get off of your self righteous pedestal. Hypocrite.
Jim Marshall you absolutely did assume. Just because you disagree with me, you assume I’m arrogant. With ONE comment?? So, let’s not say you know me because you disagree with my one comment. You don’t know me. You made your own assumptions, or....did you just want to be as condescending as possible? Lol. Which is it??
Jim Marshall so...you drew a conclusion from the assumption that I’m arrogant. You disagree with me, and your conclusion is that I’m arrogant....because you assume you disagree with me on everything, don’t you? Lol. Do you realise how stupid you come across as? You’re a hypocrite. You have just done exactly what you’re preaching that you don’t do. You.....are stupid, I’m assuming. If you had said that you found my comment arrogant...then fair enough. But, to assume I’m arrogant in everything I do, is the mother of all assumptions.
men really can’t handle rejection wow
It's the same for some women. There just aren't many known cases of a woman killing someone just because they were rejected. It still makes me scared that one day I'm going to reject the wrong person because I have a boyfriend and they're going to snap and try to hurt me or worse.
@@Luna_Kosane shut up
@@Luna_Kosane I've seen and heard of girls bitching about being rejected and acting entitled
But most or all of the cases of people being harmed, stalked or killed because they rejected an advance was done by men
@@Luna_Kosane you sound like an “all lives matter” type of person 🙄
@floofy yinez I don't know what was so wrong with my statement. I'm not saying that women don't get angry at being rejected. I'm just saying you hardly ever see stories of women going off the deep end and committing murder because they were rejected by someone. There have definitely been women who took rejection badly.
It boggles my mind that walking into a deli to get a freaking sandwich escalated so ridiculously... How does someone even go from something so mundane to something so brutal in such a short span of time? Surely he didn't plan this beforehand, he was so unprepared he had to go next door to buy his own murder clean-up kit! I don't know what kind of hatred that man was harboring for Paige or for women, or just for some specific person Paige was a surrogate for, but he should never EVER be allowed back on the streets...
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Terrifying 😕
He needs "street justice" if released
yep:(
My theory is that the dude was attracted to her and when he made his move on her and she didn't let him he killed her, the amount of times she was stabbed kind fit in this theory
I agree 100 % with you
Totally agree
So sad. I agree. It’s actually horrible we live in a world where women are murdered for rejecting men
“It ruined his life, as it should” the way u said that is such a mood im jsjdjsj
I definitely think he had romantic feelings/was obsessed with her. The amount of wounds and their severity suggest a crime of passion and anger, which typically only happen when people know each other and happen in a lot of romantic-stemming crimes.
His logic: I don't want to be on sex offenders list, but I'd rather be murderer.
Because he thought he could get away with the murder
So lucky the cctv tape didnt run out and delete the footage after twelve days!!
*IM OBSESSED WITH THESE CRIME VIDEOS*
2OrdinaryGuys sameeeeeee
rachel twinning🤷🏼♀️
Idk I do enjoy watching these videos but comments like this are pretty fucking sick like imagine being her family seeing this, after burying their teenage daughter that was savagely murdered for no reason and y'all are like 'OMG OBSESSED, GAGGING YASSS',
Have a fucking heart.
2OrdinaryGuys ME TOO
Stephen Chowder chill weirdo
Well done, Paige. You fought so hard for your life. My heart breaks for you that you weren't able to win this fight. What an absolute monster he is. I hope he rots.
I'm from the US & I honestly like that you cover more cases abroad because when I find other TH-camrs that cover the same thing it's typically US only so it's nice for me to hear about other cases.
Helen Yates i feel like in england we have less crimes because im from england and all the tv shows about american homeosises and kidnaping ( i hope this doesnt go against you sorry if it does)
@@evelilyhall8679 No you're pretty accurate sadly. There are so many cases of murders and kidnappings that happen here. Where I live there are several of these cases on the news daily.
The camera footage at 24:22 completely freaks me out. There's people walking past when he drives away and they have no idea what's in that car and what's going on right next to them. It really makes you think, this stuff could be happening right in front of you and you'd never know :/
Oh...
Did anybody else look around on the road after reading this 😂
That’s literally terrifying
Was literally just thinking this, so saddening and scary ):
I was watching a programme a few months ago and someone did the same thing. A guy had put a woman’s dead body in a suitcase and was wheeling it behind him as he walked down the street. At one point, I think it was another woman, walked right past him and the suitcase.
I turned to my mom who was sitting in the room with me and was like - ‘imagine just walking past someone like that and not knowing there was a dead body in the suitcase.’ And my mom replied saying she could hardly think about it because you could do it every day without knowing. Heck, who knows how many people walk past other people who will commit a severe crime like murder later in life.
It’s not nice to think about tbh :/
It’s come out since Paige’s Death her dad (I’m not sure if it’s her biological dad or her stepfather) has died two years after Paige’s murder due to being heartbroken (August 2018)
Haleemah Khan oh my god bless😞
that would have been her real dad
Teresa Belshaw not necessarily, she was really close to her step father so it could’ve went one of the 2
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@@teresabelshaw6694 It was. Although Paige's mother refutes the claim that his death was due to "a broken heart" over Paige's murder, because he never had any interest in seeing or being in Paige's life whatsoever. www-dailyrecord-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/paige-dohertys-mum-says-daughters-13158443.amp?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15775171643087&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailyrecord.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fscottish-news%2Fpaige-dohertys-mum-says-daughters-13158443
I knew he did it when he claimed he didn’t know who she was. When you work somewhere like that you not only know your customer’s faces, but even their usual order. Poor girl 💔
It was very obvious he did it. I feel very so sorry for her and her family and friends :(
When I have regulars, or someone who I have had a good convo with and Remember certain details. Even with mask, even with it being a bigger store, not just a shop, i get to know the regulars.
Seriously! I work at a dry cleaners and it’s come to a point where I can even recognize customers cars. Someone that comes in multiple times a week you get to know and quite well, might I add.
what?! 23 years for the brutal murder of a girl?! 27 was Too much?! Dude will be out at 54! o hellll naw.
Thats not for sure.. it will be decided if he cant out
Innamtes will probably take care of him
@@caliweewee7226 inmates are the same as him
@@selma8337 actually it's been known that most inmates really don't accept any child predator or if u mess with a child in any way if the guards don't seperate them. The other Inmates with beat them sometimes even to death because when they see someone like that they think of their kids n siblings
@@caliweewee7226 yeah i know but that’s only if he isn’t imprisoned with other child predators
I find it extra creepy that John looks like such a kind, normal, happy person. When I look up the case there's all these photos of him looking like your typical nerdy dad. It gives me the chills to know that he's really a monster.
Julie McLean damn spoiler
The comments section is for people who have watched the video to talk about it. Don't read the comment section before watching the video if you don't want spoilers.
Julie McLean I was joking lmao sorry
Julie McLean its always the most "average joe" ones
I work at a maximum security prison and when I first started I was so shocked on how all these people who have commited horrible crimes look like your ordinary regular people. Its a big shock and it makes me more observant of those around me everywhere I go.
I don’t believe his story at all. I don’t believe she threatened to lie about it. I think he had some kind of sick obsession with her and wanted to kill her.
He probably was like in love with her and she rejected him and he got made, raped her and killed her
@@isabellasegrera265 yeah i think so too.
It would explain the name of his daughter
She was probably super nice to him every time she went in & he got obsessed. It sucks that girls can’t even be kind to people without fearing about a weirdo hurting us.
His own daughter is also a teenager called paige.
i’m so glad she doesn’t use creepy music in the back like i wanna watch these in the evening without being creeped out
i love how shes not the basic makeup guru but instead is a lit news reporter (like you go gurl) 💛💛
She's awesome
ikr
A multi talented queen.
I actually dont mind you telling stories from primarily the England area because im from America. The stories you cover ive never heard of because im not from there. Truthfully if people from England dislike that you primarily cover cases from there or surrounding areas they should check out American crime TH-camrs. :D lol
I am from Croatia,so I haven't heard about any of cases American or British youtubers cover, that is awesome😊
I second this! I’m from canada and i only heard of the american cases!
yourlovelynightmare1 it’s a Scottish case I know people who were friends with her before she was killed
yourlovelynightmare1 I am from England and have no problem with the stories being covered being primarily from England. Some of them I have never heard of, and even the ones I have I enjoy the way they are covered in depth on this channel. I’m unsure who is complaining, but they need to stop 😂😂
@@theantea4011 im not sure who has been filling her head with being sick of just hearing cases from England but they need to be quiet in my opinion. Haha we love whatever she covers from wherever, huh? :D
The people saying Pamela is "happy" in the interview how do you not know shes faking it? People do fake happiness and maybe she is really hurting. Or maybe that's not the case at all and maybe shes learned to stay strong for paige.
Chrissybabe1095 and smiling is a coping mechanism:/
A lot of people don't cope with trauma the way we expect. Many rape victims seem distant, many people when family die seem oddly calm. This woman didn't seem happy to me. She was clearly hurting. But life moves on and I think she was doing the best she could.
Some people naturally smile when they talk, which is very different than "duping delight".
Or she just normally looks like that
@MimiParis I understand. She might be a bit immature. She is innocent, though, so that might help in watching it.
i’m never going outside alone again
Oh god, but same
I go out with 2 or more friends
That's like saying I'm never gonna have chocolate gain because someone choked on some. Don't make sense. It is a very sad case tho
@@oisinmccloskey6299 That is very true, but I think this commenter was kinda over exaggerating and was meaning to say that they were going to be more cautious when going outside. I don't want to put words in their mouth though, I was just thinking that because I also would say something along those lines when over exaggerating.
your makeup is so perfect in this that it’s almost a distraction 😂
Jordan Howard couldn’t agree more !!
Jordan Howard IKR
I noticed that too lol
Forreal i kept staring at her brows and eye makeup
Her hair color is gorgeous color,silky & healthy looking
Paige's real father died of a broken heart 2 years after her death.
I live in ClydeBank and her body was dumped 15 minutes from where I live, such a shame 4 years on.
🙁😭
That’s so sad :(
I can understand that he died. I think it would kill me too.
At least she has her dad with her in heaven this story breaks my heart fucking hell
Her bio father was not part of her life . Do research . He should of cared while she was alive.
500 injuries? Omg! That poor girl. ☹
That is awful. 😡
Poor poor girl ☹️
Who's here from tiktok??
Rest well paige💕
I am
me
Me
Me
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Why am I watching loads of these home alone during a storm?
Cause . Yes. You idiotic piece of bread
Because you want to die
Hey I watch this stuff while there's storms (I tourcherd myself TT^TT)
Idk
SAMEE
Is it just me but I kept looking at the organised jeffree star lipglosses 😂
Sameeeee
Same
Damn it I wanted to comment this 😂😤
Niamh Weightman I was looking at that and he eyebrows and eyeliner
Right! Her makeup is so organised and neat
It’s quite sweet how the boyfriend noticed things were wrong from her not doing her normal habits, v cute
Paiges boyfriend is my little brother, we were waiting on her coming to our house after work but then we found out she never even made it to work. It destroyed my brother. Too hard to watch this video but hope all is as accurate as it can be from an outsiders view
I can't believe how hard that must have been for your brother and I am sending all my love to your brother and family xx
Billie Joe I hope your brother is doing ok💝💝
@@billiejoe2791 I knew Paige it was heart breaking for all of us she is totally missed x
Ano the poor wee boy must have been in bits i hope he finds peace in hes life and goes on to do good things and maybe somehow somewhere down the line finds love again he's we girlfriend in heaven would want that for him poor wee lassie such a beautiful wane❤️
As horrible as the case is, I really really love how the mom is so active in bringing awareness to situations like these. Pamela went through something so hard in losing her daughter and yet she’s come out of it continuing to fight for those like Paige. Based on information shared about Paige and about how much of a bright light she was, I think that would be something she’d be extremely happy about. Her mom keeping her memory alive but also using the memory of her daughter to help others. That’s really powerful.
Im gonna steal your eyebrows
SnAtChEd
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Eyebrows snatched XD
Not if I get to them first
scouse brows are best
I wonder how long it would take people to realise that I'm missing, cause I never text anyone
same
Same
Same
Same
My boyfriend would realise I was missing cause we text everyday and I always replie and if I didn’t he would realise that something is wrong then he would probably ask my friends
He stabbed her with multiple weapons and hundreds of times? He was angry it was a crime of passion. What must his wife have thought? She had loved and had children with a man that could kill a young girl so violently probably because he wanted to sleep with her and she said no.
yes and the bent judge thought his sentence was to harsh ,really should have been rest of his life ,
Yo lol that’s the Anna hobs story from scream
he's a disgusting excuse for a human being.
Ikr lol. He is the definition of a phycopath
John really did plan this and the fact that police didn’t even look in this case that much is disappointing
me: ok just one more video...
*after 20 videos*
me: ok ok, only one more video...
*after 50*
me: just...
*after 75*
me: one
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me: more...
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'Only 3 girls missing'
Only?
I'd rather it be none.
Ye but she's saying there was a good chance it was Paige
you took out all the important context... you know that she didn't mean it like that. she wish it were none too. you know it. so please don't think low of her
she obviously meant it in the sense of ‘it could only have been one of three missing girls’
Expecially if it was a small town😳
Most kids who disapear are runaways or taken by their divorced parent
Another great example of why all girls and women need to know physical self defense!
- always carry pepper spray, where if is easy to access (such as on your keychain or looped through your purse)
- a small taser if possible, kept in your bag and locked
- when you’re out by yourself, slip on some large and sharp rings on your fingers to create a sharp weapon if you throw a punch
- when you form a fist with your hand, keep your thumb on the outside of your other fingers, laying across the others so that it doesn’t get in the way or break during a punch
VERY IMPORTANT:
- if it comes down to a brawl, do NOT give up.
- scream, bite, kick his chins/crotch, stomp on his feet, hit his nose as hard as you can
- use the base of your palm to strike upwards under the nostrils to shatter the nose, which will ruin their vision
- claw their eyes, dig your nails into sensitive areas
- make a big scene! Do NOT give up!
This is way more common than it should be. Take some self defense courses. Don’t travel alone, if possible. I believe in you ladies, don’t become another number! ❤️
Hillary Bright This is really good advice! Thank you
Pepper spray is illegal in the U.K. Considered a weapon
Your not allowed to carry those things in the uk sadly
I know Paige and her family, Her mother is now running a self defence class for children in Glasgow after this!
There are other forms of pepper spray you can legally carry in the UK. One spray I have seen on the market will actually dye the suspects face bright red for 72 hours, easily detected by the police.
Her mum is so sweet, especially buying the presents and donating them 🥺🥺 rest well Paige 💕💕
Is it just me who just watches her eyebrows move it’s soooo satisfy 😂😂 Edit: thx for all the likes ❤️
Well now I do 😂😂
rae of sunshine hahah it is satisfied right??? 😂😂😂
Omg me too
Ivy Vasa yea 😁😂
Just you ...
Early in the morning is dangerous, having the same route is dangerous, having a routine time schedule is dangerous. Be safe out there please.
It is, but do some people really have any other choice?
Emily be safe. Learn self defence, educate yourself on how to get out of certain situations, pepper spray, taser (if legal) let friends or family know where you’re going and when you’re due back, set your phone up to have quick share location on and quick call emergency services buttons, if you work late at night and your work has security, ask them to escort you to your car if it’s late at night etc there are options.
Eating the same lunch every day is dangerous
@@sportstraderuk876 ???
No more Pomegranates Paige was 4ft 8in barely six stone and only wanted a roll. How could she fend off Leatham twice her size and weight and in a psychopathic rage? He locked the door on her, she had no way out. He butchered her with a knife, and a screwdriver. She had hundreds of injuries to her body, some defensive.
Solved cases are much more satisfying than unsolved. A mix of the two is good.
I’m terrified of these videos . Yet I can’t stop watching them🤧
Sameeee
Yemen 💐💐