what angers me is that Susan's call for help which was supposed to be her chance of survival, got her KILLED. the level of disappointment i have for everyone especially the police. bless her soul
I'm only 33.48 in but the mother seems to have a particular jealousy and hatred for Susan, and I'm concerned because of the fact her husband wanted to spend time with the six year old more, making her mom jealous. I just hope her husband was actually just trying to be a good father and not a pedo
That call for help, should have saved the 6 of them. Everyone should have been saved. EVERYONE. Stupid cops... They did the same with 1 of dahmers victims. He had a hole in his friggin head, naked, squealing, shaking, terrified. They helped dahmer get that poor KID back in dahmers apartment! Cops man. Take you to jail over some pot
On the other side, though, this is one of the first cases I’ve heard of where the media was actually helpful. And didn’t even try to benefit from it themselves.
This and ppl say they only want to kill one group of ppl. No they don’t care about anyone they barley are loyal to each other. I can’t wait for my mom to retire on they ass.
More often than not the failure of the authority figures are the reason that children's lives are continuously at risk or lost. If anyone thinks that this sort of thing doesn't and can't happen any more, they would be so wrong. This story is so sad not because this actually happened but because this sort of thing happens still to this day and the system continues to fail today's youth
So no neighbors heard the gunshot or the screaming? They were in a tiny one bedroom apartment and nobody heard anything at all?? The system failed Susan tremendously I believe everyone who could’ve done something and didn’t should face consequences
I feel like if maybe this was a bad neighborhood so gunshots were probably not that weird. Someone must have heard the screaming for sure but again, think of the time, if this was a bad neighborhood people might've not reported it 1) because they themselves were doing shady stuff and didn't want the police sniffing around or 2) knew the police wouldn't even bother because they rarely do when it's bad stuff happening in a "bad area" Sad, but when they had Susan in their hands with the evidence of abuse right in front of their eyes they didn't believe her, even if someone reported something it's unlikely things would've developed differently.
I read the book whatever mother says and according to the book the shooting had happened years before they moved into the apartment. She did say that the reporting on it was mixed on this. But the book says that Theresa shot her, put her in the tub and nursed her back to health. She died years later in the apartment when Theresa decided to remove the bullet.
This was heartbreaking. I physically winced listening to how Susan and Sheila were treated. I hope the surviving kids are in a better place mentally right now
my heart absolutely breaks for susan. to be surrounded by adults that are meant to help, only for them not to listen or believe her. everything was so broken.
Doesn’t surprise me. I was heavily abused as a child and even when I called the police for help they believed my mother cuz she was charming and I was just a child “making stuff up because I’m a brat.” Hate the system so much.
Me too. I remember watching the Deadly Women episode on this case and Terry, one of the younger siblings, said she felt horrible for what happened to her sister and did anything she could when Teresa was out of the house. It’s obvious she has survivors guilt.
I read the book, apparently they had to peel Sheila off the floor, she had been left so long she just stuck there. That bit never left me. That poor girl, I can't even begin to imagine her pain and suffering.
“I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone I talk about in this video” a few minutes later “he had no reason to love her, because she was a bitch” I love Eleanor in ways I can’t explain 😂❤❤
@@MelissaLawrence2002and i find Eleanor is respectful even to those who often commit the crimes because there’s a level of understanding why they did what they did maybe due to their own trauma etc. but this woman took it so far beyond that, she doesn’t deserve respect
This case, is super devastating. I will never understand how someone can be so cruel to a child. That woman does not deserve to have kids, this case is the definition of “all kids deserve parents, but not all parents deserve kids.”
Eleanor mentioned how she had gotten away for 2 murders, but if you think about it she honestly got away with 3 murders because of her first husband-she didn’t get anything for that because she was pregnant. Absolutely insane
I thought this when Eleanor kept narrating “two” I would retort “three actually!” But the first murder, she was miraculously acquitted (kind of crazy how this mom seemed to keep getting away with things) so I think Eleanor was going by what she was actually charged with since an acquittal is “alleged” though in Eleanor’s narration of it she gives her own strong opinions of how it’s clearly murder (not a struggle and accidental shot since it was in back not front etc).
The saddest thing about this to me is that Terry died aged 41… didn’t even get to live a full life, meanwhile her mother is alive in prison in her 70s… insane.
That just means that she can apply for parole. California is kinda not nice to violent offenders. She will maybe get out of prison when she's decrepit and one and a half feet in the grave
BUT A STEP DEEPER INTO I DON'T HV ANY MORALS NOR LOVE 4 MY CHILDREN'S LIVES... "ME" PROSTITUTE....NOOO BUT I CAN PIMP OUT MY KIDS THAT'LL BE OK... FKN PPL R SO HORRIBLE
And yet people (mostly men) want to legalize it and to call it “s€x work”. Legalizing it only means the pimps and ‘consumers’ (aka, rap€ers) would face no consequence. It’s the pinnacle of misogyny.
@@joeybloey3631 I think this comment is more referring to the fact that sex work (especially prostitution) can be really dangerous for the workers- STI’s, r*pe, human trafficking, etc. I don’t think this was a comment shaming sex work
It actually was my way out. The moment I turned 18, I went to work. I still do SW now as a hide hussle, but I will never do prostitution again. Especially after dealing with Texas men....
I find it so sad that Theresa managed to outlive Terry, who died in 2011 at only 41 years old (heart failure, I think). Cases with children tortured by parental figures are the toughest for me, and I don't even like kids or anything like it. I just think the unbearable loneliness and hopelessness of only knowing hate coming toward you must be the hardest thing to overcome.
Yep, you don't even need to be a victim of this kind of abuse to feel great amounts of empathy for them. People that actually dedicate their lives for children like these are real heroes of the world. We need so many more of them ♥
What hurts me the most for these kids that are abused is that they still love their parents. They still have hope that their parent is going to show them love, they still yearn for their care and attention, especially young children.
Hey Elenor, just want to let you know that that company partnership is a little shady and they’re not as charitable as you think. Side note, you told this story incredibly well! :)
Yes I second this. I live in Scotland. You do not own the land and only the monarch or inheritance can make you a lord or lady. I’ve also seen that they don’t actually plant trees like they promise.
That's such a shame that Susan got put through so much, poor girl. To add insult to injury, you don't typically have to remove a bullet unless it's in a problematic location (like near a nerve). She would've been better off if they didn't go digging for the bullet, but her sisters didn't know any better. They tried their best.
@sewer~rat it's far more dangerous to dislodge a bullet rather than keep it in place - why? Because it serves as a plug to reduce blood loss. If you ever get shot, stabbed, perforated or impaled in any way, please don't attempt to remove the object that did it! Apply pressure and try to keep as much blood as you can, otherwise you'll bleed out too quickly to survive.
I think Theresa knew that digging a bullet out would probably harm her. That’d sure stop her daughter from leaving and exposing Theresa better than anything else.
The fact that she could be eligible for parole.... at any stage of life.... is an insult to the memory of those girls and the lives of all those kids and what they endured.... Americas judicial system is honestly one of the biggest crimes out there
Most countries are much more lax than the US as far as length of sentence and eligibility for parole. Life sentences without the possibility for parole are not even allowed in many countries.
I have watched many true crime videos and they’re of course horrifying, but this one was definitely one of the worst ones (if not the worst one) i have ever watched. just hearing these kids’ situation made me sob into tears and made me realize how lucky many of us are… i cant even begin to imagine the emotional AND physical pain they went through… it’s just evil at its purest form
I believe Terry died in 2011 which is so heartbreaking, she was so brave for speaking out about her childhood and getting justice for her sisters. Rest in peace ❤️
Theresa's son William told his story on the Evil Lives Here documentary series. It was so crushing to hear it straight from one of the victims who had to endure this torture for their entire childhood from someone who is supposed to love them unconditionally. This case has always affected me in such a way... Thank you so much Eleanor for telling this case with so much compassion and for doing such thorough research.
Also if the neighbors had done anything to help at all, like call the police, maybe they could've survived. They lived in a 1 bedroom apartment and there were definitely neighbors. There was gunshots and probably constant screaming. I don't get how neighbors can hear stuff like that happening and do nothing.
Just the nurses, really? Why does it always come down to a nurse being blamed? You do realize nurses work under people, right? They don't get to make decisions like that. Doctors and the filthy pigs do. I can almost 100% guarantee there were nurses that believed her, but some asshole doctor or pig said no.
i watched this without any knowledge of the case and felt my heart drop every few minutes when i genuinely couldn’t think she could do any worse. bless those kids and thank god that any of them survived at all
Yeah, I actually caught myself thinking "Why were they so complacent in this? Why didn't they try overpowering their mother?". But just after a minute of thinking, it is easy to find an answer. They saw no other options. They had no friends, no place to go, and no people to reach out to. The abuse was all they had known at the time.
i wonder why they didnt run away like when she was sleeping like they lived i a apartment they could have told anyone and the mom couldnt say all of her kids were crazy like she did with the oldest daughter
@@tanajhtrinidad2047extreme trauma and after Susan's failed attempt for help so probably all had really really bad PTSD cuz of how there mother behaved towards them and the fact that she was beating Susan to the point SHE got tired also possible cuz of the fear they couldnt think straight they knew only pain and how disappointing people can be Susan seeked for help and she died suffering they seen and considering susan had bruises cuts burns on her and they still didnt believe her they seen no help sadly :(
Theresa was worried about her neighbors smelling poor Susan's remain but what about the screams and cries of her children? Were they truly so brainwashed and terrified that they wouldn't even cry out when being abused? Truly horrific woman
True psychopathy exists and certain traumas in childhood and/or hereditary from their mother or father or both. Also, a lack of empathy or rather a leart ability to switch that on & off either for survival or to seem like a "normal" person helps them like manipulation to a drug addict.
@@LynnAgain83 I'd have jumped her and finished her off at one point tbh. For survival. Out of rage. Appoint my siblings to hold her down like they did each other. If they refused I'd still plot.
I mean I was severly abused by a stepmom as a little child. My dad lived in Alaska with her so id have to go every summer. I recall NEVER crying or screaming....literally. The only time I would cry was when I was alone in my room. When you are abused frequently your mind becomes numb to it almost. Sometines I wished I would start crying because she would get madder and madder everytime I didn't show emotion and would do meaner, worse things. It's just so weird. I still to this day, at 27 years old, don't cry in front of people and have very hard time showing emotions in situations that anyone else would. Abuse does weird things to children and adults!
@@dallascordova9717 Eleanor said that they did make noise though in this case, she said Teresa would get mad about Susan screaming and crying in pain, especially after being shot in the back. The gun shot is also something that should've been noticed, but it seems like every neighbor they had just stuck their fingers in their ears and pretended nothing was happeneing next door. I'm sorry to hear about what you were forced to deal with as a child too, nobody deserves that kind of treatment. I genuinely hope that you're doing better as an adult
As a mom, this really breaks my heart. I could NEVER harm my babies, be jealous of them, anything. Those poor kids didn’t ask to be brought into the world. They didn’t deserve to be raised in an environment with such pure evil physical and psychological torture. I pray the surviving children are healing mentally and doing better.
Rip to those beautiful girls who didn’t deserve anything but pure love. I’m so angry that she didn’t get the death penalty even if she plead guilty and the fact that she is eligible for parole in 2027 is even more disgusting.
To me im happy she didnt get the death penalty. If you watch jessica kent she said that prison messed her up and now she has severe PTSD people who get the death sentence get a nice meal, and a fast death if its not the electric chair. But her children had to suffer everday. The 2027 thing is disgusting though, completely agree
I know it’s so unfair these kids were let down by everyone it’s unfair it’s so sad to know what some kids go through daily 😢 god bless those poor kids 😢
I'm homeschooling and it is not that way at my house. Dhs has been intrusive and gave me nightmares if being taken away. Don't lump all homeschooling together😮
@@Lunalovegood-w9f I've heard some truly awful ones lately. I saw a neighbor girl today, she's 9. She went to her friends house and as they were biking by as I'm walking my dog, I said, I'm sure your mom has already told you this but, no adult needs your help with ANYTHING! No lost dog No lost kid NOTHING Don't walk anywhere with them Don't get in their vehicle! I wish I'd said, and for the love of God, please don't go into any bathroom with anyone!! She actually said her mom hadn't told her. So I said, it doesn't matter if it's a man or woman, DON'T GO! 🙏🤞
Amen! I've never spoken to a homeschooling parent that didn't give me the creeps. Way too controlling. Every homeschooled adult I've met has had social problems. Every. Single. One. They can not handle anyone "different". Be it religion or politics or criticism. They have a very hard time. It should be a red flag. The children should be checked on and their educational development should be measured.
Someone else said she has something to the effect of “natural empathy” in her voice. Very comforting and almost takes the morbid part out of our morbid curiosity!❤
Hearing about Theresa being jealous of her daughters, all her money going on alcohol & just being so toxic reminds my of my own mum. Luckily I never had to experience some of the horror her children had to go through but it hits me hard when I hear stories about women so similar to my mum.
this case really made me think about how women with bpd can become when having no support system and i just wonder seeing as you had thought she was like your mum then maybe you'd find it interesting to look into it? just to be able to further understand her actions if you think it applies
out of all the cases i’ve watched on this channel, (i’ve seen almost every single one), this one has affected me the most. it makes me absolutely distraught to hear about the abuse and pain that was inflicted onto the children. i will NEVER be able to comprehend why people do what they do. teresa was the person that the children were supposed to receive protection and guidance from, not someone who caused them an outstanding amount of suffering.
same here. i can usually keep a bit of a distance to these cases, otherwise i would probably just feel awful after listening to every single one of them. but this one really broke my heart 💔
Completely agree. I’ve watched almost every video on Eleanor’s channel, but I couldn’t stomach the Richard Huckle video. I couldn’t even make it halfway through, it made me feel physically ill.
I absolutely love Eleanor! I also love how she gets so into the story and says things like "She would be gone for days. Not calling, not checking in, not even a text!" - when the case is based in the 70s and 80s 😁 I caught it on another video and again on this one and I just laughed. She's so pa passionate about her stories, she doesn't even realize and I think that's great :)
We're all glad that Eleanor is back. Seemed like she took the necessary break she needed. We are all aware of the fact that we can always trust her with the information she gives.
@@Jasmine-ot8br relax. It got 41* likes so a lot of people can relate and if you wanted to be a bitter melon, then just don't comment because WE don't want the kind of negativity here
This really hit home. I survived the horrific abuse of my mother and my father, my sister didn't. My parent's manipulated her to doing their bidding ending in her death. Thank you for shining light on the dark World of the abused.
Same!! Was looking for someone else who had gone through similar experience... We all had different fathers though and I lost my older brother from our mom. It's not surprising to me that she had her employer fooled by the time she got arrested. No one knew what we went through except us and few bystanders but we ended up moving everrytime someone had witnessed who she rreally was. If you were as close to your sister as I was my brother sorrrry for your loss and even if you werrent close I still imagine the loss was hard.. t seems like knowing what it feels like I'd have something morre comforrting to say ... Hopefully you're healing frrom the trauma ❤
this is exactly how my aunt, my blood aunt, treated her foster children over the span of 20 years. 12 girls, 2 boys. it started with a family of siblings, 2 boys, 2 girls. the youngest was only 4 yrs old and the oldest i think was about 12 when my aunt fostered them. they would constantly tell others how they were treated, but because they came from a family of dr*g addicts, everyone was told they were "troubled kids" and to not listen to them. including my own mother who said this to me numerous times over the years. the kids couldn't wait until they turned 18 so that they could leave my aunt's house. after the three older kids turned 18 and moved out, it left the youngest by herself and my aunt started fostering only girls after that. that youngest sibling was the first of 3 girls that ran away from my aunts house because they couldn't take it anymore, but was returned to my aunt and then began helping my aunt hurt these other kids over the years. but every single girl, was found and given back to my aunt...."troubled kids".... it wasn't until the last one that ran away in 2019 i think it was, that there was any real investigation done into my aunt. the girl that ran away was special needs and she ran to her older sister's house to escape. because of her, this nightmare finally ended.....almost. there was an investigation done on my aunt, she was arrested and put on a nearly 2 million dollar bond, and evidence was found of the horrible things she did to those girls. beds with no mattresses, but had handcuffs and duct tape on the headboard and footboards, human feces on the beds that had mattresses as well as smeared on the floor and walls, and the most horrible thing was the THOUSANDS of photos of these underage girls found on my aunt's computer. unfortunately due to covid, my aunt made bail and her newly married husband helped her. he was also blinded by what my aunt had done. because he had his own house, he NEVER went to my aunt's house.....which by the way was across the street from my grandmother....HER OWN MOTHER....who also had her older brother and younger sister living with my grandmother. and NONE of them knew this was happening either, they were forbidden to see them, which was fine for my grandmother because she never approved of my aunt fostering kids anyway and refused to accept them as her grandchildren, so no one knew what was going on, not even the neighbors around my aunt. anyway, no one knows what happened in 2020 or afterward because of the pandemic. and all of those children, who most are now adults with their own families, have no closure or redemption for what was done to them. all they have is an apology from the judge who told them "i am so sorry we failed you" meaning the whole child protection services. my mother told me that if i believed those "troubled kids" over blood then i was no longer family. so sadly on mother's day 2019, i cut all ties with my mom and her entire side of my family. i don't need or want that in my life....but it will forever haunt me and i will forever regret not standing up for those kids years ago.
That must’ve been really hard to witness thankfully you didn’t let your family have you follow that same pattern of denial and disbelief even though all they have to do is look! I’m sorry you had to cut off your family but it was really for the best
@@smileyattitude6807 thank you. honestly it was a long time coming and for the first 2 years of that i was basically intimidated by my mom, so that was why i didn't stand up for them when it happened. after i turned 18, i had moved out, which made my mom extremely mad and things were strained ever since. it's been 22 years since that all started and made me look at a lot of things that happened in my childhood....with my aunt, my mom and even my grandma....and made me realize i escaped just in time. you only hear or read about it, or watch shows based off of true events....you never expect to live it. my heart goes out to anyone else who has had to live like any of those poor children, or with other abusive family members and loved ones. it's not easy to watch it as a friend or loved one on the outside either. i am glad that the kids no longer have to live that nightmare....the ones that are now adults have told me that they felt the need to get married and pregnant asap after they turned 18 was so that they could feel "normal" or "human" again....that's heartbreaking. and what is sad is the youngest of the original four ended out married and pregnant and was really really really upset that she had a son, which made me worry for that poor kid and what would have happened if it was a girl instead. my aunt also told that girl that if she ever spoke against my aunt, my aunt would hurt her and her baby and demanded that she return to my aunt's house the moment she was out of jail.....of course nothing was done by the authorities, but i can't imagine living in that fear.
I hope those women rest easy. They deserve all the happiness that they never got in life. I'm so proud of Sheila for standing up to her mother even until the end, what a strong woman.
I saw this case around the time I was 13 and then really started to realize what damage people can do to each other this case has stuck with me my entire life and motivates me to be kind to my children and to teach them to be kind as well but also to be wary
my heart hurts for susan and sheila. poor girls had their whole life ahead of them and both of them were so close to freedom, it’s so heartbreaking. i also feel so sad for clifford, his death was so senseless. a lot of stuff went wrong in this case.
As someone who grew up with a mum who was jealous of my relationship with my dad, parts of this case hit close to home. Things my mum said and did still affect my confidence and mental health to this day.
Poor Sheila. Gods. To be forced into that and then wrongly accused and berated because of it. The level of abuse this woman was capable of is literally unfathomable. My heart is so broken over this case. I mean I cannot imagine what these children went through.
Oh, no...she shoukd NEVER be eligible for parole!!! This is definately one of the very top sickest cruelest cases I've ever heard... It makes me wish they could sentence SOME people to torture 💢
This one is making me physically sick and I am absolutely used to hearing the worst of the worst in True Crime that exists. I'm glad you're doing this case because these victims deserved out their stories heard and their life known about. I love that you do many that have never been heard of before
Eleanor, I am so happy you chose to cover this story! It's woefully under-reported outside of the California/USA West Coast area, and Terry's bravery, courage and remarkable loyalty to her sisters deserves to be heard! Thank you! ❤️
This case is absolutely horrific! It’s actually very similar to Sylvia Likens’. She was also severely tortured and eventually died at the hands of the woman who was supposed to be her caregiver. I will never understand people who can cause this much suffering on anyone, let alone a child! 😰 Another thing that just breaks my heart is the fact that Suesan had an adult who genuinely cared about her and her siblings at one point, even if it was for a short time. And then that was ripped away from them. Hope those girls are resting in peace! 🕊️🫶🏻
This is the most heartbreaking case I’ve never heard. I had to stop mid video, and I couldn’t stop crying. I hate to think about, children being abused, they NEVER deserve difficulties. People and the systems ALWAYS fails children, and always had. Rest in peace Susan and Shelia❤️
I also had to stop, it rarely happens but when it does it is usually these child abuse cases… It is truly heartbreaking what happened to these children 😢
I screamed in my head when you said they didn’t investigate the house fire. Post fire inspection would have shown an accelerant was used and that in itself is suspicious enough to warrant further investigation as to why someone intentionally tried to burn the house down.
Every time Eleanor mentioned Theresa as a two time killer (running away), I always thought about her (Theresa) as a THREE time killer, considering she was never punished for the murder of her first husband. It also makes me wonder if she would have been locked away the first time then maybe this would have never happened. 😢
why did the eldest brother leave and never think to help his siblings or check on them again?? the neighbors should’ve done something as well like get a wellness check or report the screams/gunshots/etc. this is such a poor investigation my heart goes out to the girls and the other children no one deserves that treatment or abuse.
how are u pointing the finger at the brother? he was traumatised and needed to get out. it’s always easy to say what people should/ shouldn’t have done from an outside perspective but if you live in it it’s a whole different situation.
@@noodlesandsprite7052 Most likely guilt, my mother was often times verbally and mentally abusive but I could never report my mother. It's just innate that no matter how much they abuse you, in some way you feel like you deserved it, and the fact people always say, "At the end of the day, she's still your mom." It just cements the fact that you'd be betraying her if you said anything and destroying your family. Added on, you feel powerless; he didn't have the money to take in all his siblings so they'd all have to foster homes and be locked in the system where he'd never see them again so he just kept trying to give hope that maybe, they'll survive until 18 and he can do better. Everything was fucked up, from the abuse to the people who allowed this to go on, and the state who's system for the abused just keeps getting worse.
@@chugchug72 I was wondering too. I'd get not sticking around... maybe not even ever returning, even for the siblings... but even if he wasn't going to return for everyone, wouldn't having the police notified and have them in foster homes where the extent of the abuse can't escalate as it did here because of social workers? I bet it was traumatizing, and its understandable why he abandoned his siblings in that situation... but he did still abandon them. No mention of him for the rest of Eleanor's video... idk. I don't know what I would do if I were in his shoes. There isn't any way for us to know just how manipulated he was by his mother. I bet he felt so incredibly guilty after the death of his sisters went public. Idk, though... if I were one of the other siblings, idk if I'd be able to forgive him for leaving me and not getting us help.
It’s INFURIATING that this happened to Susan even after she went to authorities pleading for help. Even until this day, claims like this are never taken seriously. Just heartbreaking.
I was born and still live in Sacramento not far from where this took place, it makes you feel some type of way when it’s so close to home. Thank you for this story. Love love love you Eleanor ❤
Everything is so sad about this case, the mom being such a monster, the siblings who left and didn’t report the mom, the little girl who was not believed when she clearly was in danger 😢💔 as a daughter who grew up in a hispanic home it really breaks my heart and brings back sad sad memories. Our children need protection so badly, they need to be heard and believed 🥺
It's devastating that Susan was so so close to freedom and saving her siblings. Cases with children tortured by parental figures are the toughest for me, I just think the unbearable hopelessness of only knowing hate coming to you must be one of the hardest things to overcome. I will never understand how someone can be so cruel to a child. That woman does not deserve to have kids, this case is the definition of “all kids deserve parents, but not all parents deserve kids.” The fact that she could be eligible for parole is an insult to the lives of all those kids and what they endured. Americas judicial system is honestly disgusting.
I appreciate your coverage of this story but you left out quite a few facts that I feel are very relevant to giving her victims their due respect,even in death.. I can remember how I cried the day I found out Terry died.. 😭 William's role was much greater than disposal,he took an active role in beating and punishing the other kids and while I can somewhat understand the impossible position he was put in initially,he was also given opportunities to save them and he didn't.. This is a story that will never be far from my heart because I am a survivor of horrific childhood abuse and I can unfortunately relate to so much of what they went through.. 😔
The problem with saying "he was in positions where he could have saved them" is that for a normal person this is true but he is also a victim of abuse. These people never had proper social education and even for Terry it was years before she did anything to tell the story. Terry also helped out but it'd be stupid to punish her for things she did as a child under extreme duress. I think giving William any prison time would have been a mistake and therapy was the best route. It's the same with Robert, when Elenor was questioning why'd he'd rob a bar. It's because he grew up in such a twisted backward enviorment. It's not just abuse it's isolation and segration. I'm not going to give a psych essay on this but there's a reason many victims like these kids fail to seek help when given a chance. Just look at Susan that is the type of thing that happens often and all the children witnessed it. Putting fault in William for not getting help is like putting fault in Sheila for not getting help when she was out alone as a prostitute. It's not as simple as calling the police. The police are usually garbage you can't put all your faith in them you need a backup which is why Shelia opted to save money
@@finnsnow2495 I can appreciate your analysis and you make some good points,but it doesn't change my opinion of William.. He was free and he still continued to aid in terrorizing and abusing the other kids.. Unlike Sheila who returned home each night because she knew the others needed her.. I'd never blame Terry because she was very young and had no control over anything.. She actually took several beatings for feeding Sheila and giving her water.. She didn't shoot Suesan,Theresa did.. I'm just so glad that she at least got to live free before she died..
Thank you so much for the presentation, the thought, and the effort, of your videos. True crime can be such a sensitive topic, but you handle it with such grace! You're wonderful for the True Crime community on TH-cam, and you always handle these cases with such seriousness. Thank you, Eleanor! :]
What happened to Susan breaks my soul into pieces. How can someone endure that much abuse, torture, torment, and anguish in their life? And from her own mother, someone who is meant to love you unconditionally. I don’t understand but it makes me sick to my stomach that this girl was brave enough to seek help, against all instincts and her worst fears came true. I just don’t understand how that can happen to someone, let alone a child. It’s deeply disturbing.
Honestly, my mother tried to kill me. I had been living with her, after I became too ill to work. I had psoriatic arthritis and that was the end of employment for me, and she asked me to go and live with her for a bit. As soon as I got there I knew it was a mistake. She was absolutely seething. After 6 months, I had to run off back to London and try to get help. Nobody believed me. Nobody really cared. Essentially if you pitch up, you have no clothes because you've left them all behind, you are only one up from looking like a homeless person, you've run off, then for all intents and purposes you look like a lunatic. It was awful. 😥I went to the hospital because I still felt ill (she poisoned me) and the nurse promised a blood test would be done. But they lied and sent it off for a CBC which just checks your iron levels. 😖 About a week after I managed to get a proper test and there was arsenic present, but the doctor said it might have been from eating fish. 🙄😡 Well of course by that time there was not as much left after over a week since I'd been poisoned. It validated what I had said, but still nobody would take any notice. I could still cry about that. I had none of my clothes, only a few things I had managed to buy, so I didn't even look like ME. And all I had was a load of people treating me like a loony. The world really is very cruel!
I’m so glad you are still here. I’m so sorry that you weren’t believed or really listened to, but I’m glad that the blood test at least confirmed what you already knew. Hopefully you never have to interact with your mom again if you don’t want to, and if you do, it’s in much bigger settings. You deserve to be here, and the fact that a parent would try and poison their kid makes me so angry. I truly hope she realizes one day that you have amounted to more than she could ever hope to.
Every time I think I've heard the worst, most maddening case, I watch another one of your videos that tops it. Wow. I can't believe the evil that happened here, and the negligence by authority. This is some of the worst suffering I've heard a human go through. That poor poor girl. Rest in peace.
This is definitely one of the more harsh cases I've ever heard. I'm glad that the youngest eventually brought everything to light. That kind of trauma you never really heal from but getting justice for her sisters is a damn good start. Bravo Terry 👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you Eleanore❤️ Your announcement letting us know that this has been in the works for a few years, gave me a bit of peace. I have been reaching out to everyone about my childhood friend who was murdered. Her case has been reopened. You made me realized that we are not being ignored and that in time, her story will be told. She was only 12 years. Riverside California
Omg, 25:28, "He adored these kids, and he adored Theresa, even though he didn't have much reason to because she was a bitch." I just spit my drink out! I mean she's not wrong, I just didn't expect that! 😅
I watch Elenor while I go to sleep as comfort, I think this is the first case that I can’t sleep after, I feel sick. Those poor girls, all those poor children. Rest in peace… I can’t stop crying now…
I’m pretty surprised none of the kids tried “harming” their mother… i can’t say 100% what I would do since I (thankfully) haven’t been in that position but :( either way what they went through is absolutely awful. Children need to be protected
I’ve been in a position similar to this nowhere near as bad as This but I remember whenever I thought back my parents would turn everyone against me and that I was a awful violent kid so maybe that’s a reason who knows I guess it depends on the situation and who it is
I also believe that these children developed mentally at a very slower pace due to never having left the house EVERRR and having very small idea of the outside , especially the younger ones. They lived in fear and didn’t know what to do, also they were malnourished and extremely WEAK , they knew they would not have been able to do anything against that woman. It’s like a survival tactic. It would be surprising if none of them developed ptsd
Eleanor is so into the story that she says that woman didn't even bother texting the guy when she disappeared for days 🤭🤭 testing in 1963. Funny and cute.
Out of all your videos I have watched for some reason this one has me so emotionally. Children don't ask to be born, let alone abused and tortured. How can you do that to a child you carried for 9 months and bore??? She literally killed a part of herself and just didn't give a damn. I can't....😭
This case will stay with me. So heartbreaking. I’ve followed you for over a year and this by far is the most horrendous case. Thank you for telling it so well
I wish someone would do an in-depth video on Kelly Brannen. She went missing from where I live, Live Oak, FL. She was passing through and her and her fiancé got into a fight and she was seen getting into a truck. She was at a local Mexican restaurant that is known for putting GHB in girls drinks, over charging cards, AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING. They made a document on Paramount plus. They found her pet chicken at the restaurant cooks home. There’s still no arrests made. There’s been too many missing women or unsolved murders over here. This is a small town. This girl was so colorful and had stopped by the bar I bartend. The staff of Armando’s is barred from my bar. If anyone would do this story justice, it would be you, Danielle or Kendall without a doubt. Kelly Brannen is her name once again.
Hate to be this guy but her name is actually spelled Kelley Brannon (just for ease of search). Did some quick reading about this case and it's really weird they didn't look into the owner of said restaurant more. Her story is a stark reminder to never leave your loved ones alone if they have been drinking, no matter how much you may be upset at them.
my deepest condolences to both of these girls. i’ve watched so many of your videos and this channel got me into true crime but i think this is one of the most heartbreaking, frustrating, cruel cases that i’ve ever seen in my life so far. how could a mother do this? thank you for sharing their story eleanor ❤
This was one of the most harrowing stories I’ve ever heard. (Can’t believe I never heard about it actually) I’m so happy that I found your channel on TH-cam. And your presentation of these true crime cases is just great. Keep ‘em coming! Terryb
Such an evil person. I can't believe this actually happened. RIP to those two lovely girls it's sad how they never got a chance to experience life outside their mothers abuse.
My mom is like this woman in every single way possible and it's crazy to think that people wouldn't listen to Susan but, I've done the exact same thing and nobody listened and I was thought to be crazy, BTW IM SAFE NOW. I DO NOT LIVE WITH MY MOTHER ANYMORE. But it's so heartbreaking to hear such a similar story to mine and be told as true crime.
You should do a video on Judith Ann Neeley. She was a murderer around the Alabama area. She kidnapped 13 year old girl and completely tortured her. While they tortured her they put shot of cleaning products in her. Recently her attorney in her case wrote a book. In the book he said her case nearly ruined his life.
This case is pure evil, I can't imagine how terrified Susan must have felt especially when no one believed her, yet alone the rest wondering if and when they'd be next
The same thing that happened to Susan, happened to me. I tried to run away from home and got sent to a mental health facility. I told them that my mom was abusing me, and they didn't believe me because my mom is so manipulative she convinced them that I was delusional. That mental health facility was eventually shut down because it was such a bad place to go for children and teenagers.
I’m sorry you had to go through that, and I’m sorry that the people/system that were supposed to help ended up failing to do anything except make it worse. I’m glad someone finally saw the harm being caused by the facility and that it got shut down. I hope you’re in a safe place now and that you are able to get the help you need. I hope you’ve found your people and that you can see how incredible you are.💜
been there - my mother too, did some awful awful stuff and then cried a few crocodile tears and got away with it. im sending you love and i hope youre doing okay 💜
I really love your videos, I admire how in depth you look into these cases. I especially appreciate how you are able to put certain situations into perspective with your empathy and insight. You're just such an incredible person to bring these true crime cases to light. Please keep on doing what you're doing, thank you for being so thorough and understanding in these cases
I have a different theory I think he stayed because he loved those kids and he knew that he was the only light in their life, not because he loved her.
what angers me is that Susan's call for help which was supposed to be her chance of survival, got her KILLED. the level of disappointment i have for everyone especially the police. bless her soul
For real I am so pissed and sad about Susan.
I'm only 33.48 in but the mother seems to have a particular jealousy and hatred for Susan, and I'm concerned because of the fact her husband wanted to spend time with the six year old more, making her mom jealous. I just hope her husband was actually just trying to be a good father and not a pedo
That call for help, should have saved the 6 of them. Everyone should have been saved. EVERYONE. Stupid cops... They did the same with 1 of dahmers victims. He had a hole in his friggin head, naked, squealing, shaking, terrified. They helped dahmer get that poor KID back in dahmers apartment! Cops man. Take you to jail over some pot
They did the same thing for that 14 yr old boy that jeffery dahmer injected hydrochloric acid in
And the People in the psychological hospital where no one believed her
It's heartbreaking that Susan was SO close to freedom and saving her siblings but yet so severely let down
@@Balletified I’ve been commenting this too!! Trying to get her attention!!
@@Balletified How did you find out?
@@_kax_x theres multiple creators that have made videos exposing them
There should def be a petition that if, a CHILD ever accuses anyone of abuse, they should be put in custody
@@BalletifiedIVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR AGES
This is one of those stories that just really makes you angry at all the authority figures who completely failed these victims.
when watching it I kept forgetting this is real.
On the other side, though, this is one of the first cases I’ve heard of where the media was actually helpful. And didn’t even try to benefit from it themselves.
This and ppl say they only want to kill one group of ppl. No they don’t care about anyone they barley are loyal to each other. I can’t wait for my mom to retire on they ass.
I was counting the police L in this case… there were too many to count
More often than not the failure of the authority figures are the reason that children's lives are continuously at risk or lost. If anyone thinks that this sort of thing doesn't and can't happen any more, they would be so wrong. This story is so sad not because this actually happened but because this sort of thing happens still to this day and the system continues to fail today's youth
So no neighbors heard the gunshot or the screaming? They were in a tiny one bedroom apartment and nobody heard anything at all?? The system failed Susan tremendously I believe everyone who could’ve done something and didn’t should face consequences
Now that I think of it, yeah you're right. There's no way no one heard anything.
My neighbors complain if you're a little loud after 9PM, I can't imagine a scream or gunshot wouldn't attract attention.
I feel like the neighbors didn't care
I feel like if maybe this was a bad neighborhood so gunshots were probably not that weird. Someone must have heard the screaming for sure but again, think of the time, if this was a bad neighborhood people might've not reported it 1) because they themselves were doing shady stuff and didn't want the police sniffing around or 2) knew the police wouldn't even bother because they rarely do when it's bad stuff happening in a "bad area"
Sad, but when they had Susan in their hands with the evidence of abuse right in front of their eyes they didn't believe her, even if someone reported something it's unlikely things would've developed differently.
I read the book whatever mother says and according to the book the shooting had happened years before they moved into the apartment. She did say that the reporting on it was mixed on this. But the book says that Theresa shot her, put her in the tub and nursed her back to health. She died years later in the apartment when Theresa decided to remove the bullet.
"He even adored Theresa, even though he had no reason to because she was a bitch."
CACKLING
I KNOW RIGHT😂
this had me cackling like a hen 😂
I had to go back and make sure I heard it right , so funny 🤣🤣
such a serious video and then that had me absolutely screaming
@@lesbianspaceranger SAME eleanor had me dead the entire video laughing at this horrible woman
This was heartbreaking. I physically winced listening to how Susan and Sheila were treated. I hope the surviving kids are in a better place mentally right now
It said in one of the comments that Terry died young at age 41 :(
Will Knorr is in a much better place with a loving family now
my heart absolutely breaks for susan. to be surrounded by adults that are meant to help, only for them not to listen or believe her. everything was so broken.
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She could've been saved... She didn't have to die if someone had just listened to her... 🖤🌹 Rest well, susan.
Doesn’t surprise me. I was heavily abused as a child and even when I called the police for help they believed my mother cuz she was charming and I was just a child “making stuff up because I’m a brat.” Hate the system so much.
Me too. I remember watching the Deadly Women episode on this case and Terry, one of the younger siblings, said she felt horrible for what happened to her sister and did anything she could when Teresa was out of the house. It’s obvious she has survivors guilt.
Was? It still is. Go work in social services, you'll see
I read the book, apparently they had to peel Sheila off the floor, she had been left so long she just stuck there. That bit never left me. That poor girl, I can't even begin to imagine her pain and suffering.
whats the name of the book?
Name of the book?
It was called "Whatever mother says"
Yes! I have the book! She really was the worst mother ever!
Did u mean Susan?
“I mean absolutely no disrespect to anyone I talk about in this video” a few minutes later “he had no reason to love her, because she was a bitch” I love Eleanor in ways I can’t explain 😂❤❤
“I mean no disrespect to anyone in this video except Theresa because she was a bitch-“
Lmaoo😂
Well, full disrespect to those that deserve it. No disrespect to the victims is what she means.
@@MelissaLawrence2002and i find Eleanor is respectful even to those who often commit the crimes because there’s a level of understanding why they did what they did maybe due to their own trauma etc. but this woman took it so far beyond that, she doesn’t deserve respect
The disrespect is valid
This case, is super devastating. I will never understand how someone can be so cruel to a child. That woman does not deserve to have kids, this case is the definition of “all kids deserve parents, but not all parents deserve kids.”
I wouldn't wish this fate upon my worst enemy, let alone a child
Eleanor mentioned how she had gotten away for 2 murders, but if you think about it she honestly got away with 3 murders because of her first husband-she didn’t get anything for that because she was pregnant. Absolutely insane
Yeah
If only she just went to prison back then instead of being let off
I thought this when Eleanor kept narrating “two” I would retort “three actually!” But the first murder, she was miraculously acquitted (kind of crazy how this mom seemed to keep getting away with things) so I think Eleanor was going by what she was actually charged with since an acquittal is “alleged” though in Eleanor’s narration of it she gives her own strong opinions of how it’s clearly murder (not a struggle and accidental shot since it was in back not front etc).
@@User22winwian q11
If only she was sent to prison the first time
The saddest thing about this to me is that Terry died aged 41… didn’t even get to live a full life, meanwhile her mother is alive in prison in her 70s… insane.
how did she die? thats so sad
@@evanfuller3701 Wouldnt be surprised at all if it was long term effects of abuse; both psychological and physical.
@@intheraeyne thats true. :(
😢
@@evanfuller3701she died of heart failure, so it’s most likely at least partly due to years of severe constant stress, mental and physical
Eligible for parole? The justice system needs the death penalty for that level of injustice.
they did seek the death penalty, but she wasnt given it as part of her plea deal.
@@Redheart709 oh come on, i've seen cases that weren't nearly as horrific as this one where the killer got life in prison with no parole
Exactly
She's a woman, they get off easy regardless of the evils they commit.
That just means that she can apply for parole.
California is kinda not nice to violent offenders. She will maybe get out of prison when she's decrepit and one and a half feet in the grave
I like how there is compassion and pity for the child, not the murderer they became as an adult.
This reminds me of my fave quote: "Your background influences who you are but you're responsible for who you become"
She's very good at striking that balance
@Perfect Imperfection yes I did. It was a rhetorical question.
@@Laura-bg4nh that's the point
@Perfect Imperfection I love how you articulated your comment so well said ❤️ you seem lovely
Imagine how horrific your life must be if you see prostitution as a way out :(
BUT A STEP DEEPER INTO I DON'T HV ANY MORALS NOR LOVE 4 MY CHILDREN'S LIVES... "ME" PROSTITUTE....NOOO
BUT I CAN PIMP OUT MY KIDS THAT'LL BE OK... FKN PPL R SO HORRIBLE
And yet people (mostly men) want to legalize it and to call it “s€x work”. Legalizing it only means the pimps and ‘consumers’ (aka, rap€ers) would face no consequence. It’s the pinnacle of misogyny.
@@joeybloey3631 I think this comment is more referring to the fact that sex work (especially prostitution) can be really dangerous for the workers- STI’s, r*pe, human trafficking, etc. I don’t think this was a comment shaming sex work
It actually was my way out. The moment I turned 18, I went to work. I still do SW now as a hide hussle, but I will never do prostitution again. Especially after dealing with Texas men....
Life really is that Horrific for a lot of people unfortunately
I find it so sad that Theresa managed to outlive Terry, who died in 2011 at only 41 years old (heart failure, I think). Cases with children tortured by parental figures are the toughest for me, and I don't even like kids or anything like it. I just think the unbearable loneliness and hopelessness of only knowing hate coming toward you must be the hardest thing to overcome.
So sad
Okay that’s literally shattering. I’m so upset by that.
Yep, you don't even need to be a victim of this kind of abuse to feel great amounts of empathy for them. People that actually dedicate their lives for children like these are real heroes of the world. We need so many more of them ♥
What hurts me the most for these kids that are abused is that they still love their parents. They still have hope that their parent is going to show them love, they still yearn for their care and attention, especially young children.
Kids probably don't like you either!
Hey Elenor, just want to let you know that that company partnership is a little shady and they’re not as charitable as you think. Side note, you told this story incredibly well! :)
A little shady is a nice way to put a complete scam that can't deliver anything they offer
Yes I second this. I live in Scotland. You do not own the land and only the monarch or inheritance can make you a lord or lady. I’ve also seen that they don’t actually plant trees like they promise.
Get this comment as many likes as possible!!!!! IT NEEDS TO BE HEARD!!!
I’ve been trying to notify her about this as well. It’s more than a little shady, it’s a total scam.
Yep. Don't trust Established Titles. I've seen it on like 3 TH-camrs channels issuing statements about it.
That's such a shame that Susan got put through so much, poor girl. To add insult to injury, you don't typically have to remove a bullet unless it's in a problematic location (like near a nerve). She would've been better off if they didn't go digging for the bullet, but her sisters didn't know any better. They tried their best.
@sewer~rat i think just because of how small they are, removal isn't a necessity, not sure though just guessing
@sewer~rat it's far more dangerous to dislodge a bullet rather than keep it in place - why? Because it serves as a plug to reduce blood loss. If you ever get shot, stabbed, perforated or impaled in any way, please don't attempt to remove the object that did it! Apply pressure and try to keep as much blood as you can, otherwise you'll bleed out too quickly to survive.
When I was a kid my dad got shot in a hu ting accident and he still has the bullet in him which is pretty wild
@sewer~rat it does more damage trying to dig it out.
I think Theresa knew that digging a bullet out would probably harm her. That’d sure stop her daughter from leaving and exposing Theresa better than anything else.
Beyond horrific. There's a special hell for Theresa. Poor Susan, can't even imagine the pain this poor woman endured...
And sheila
The fact that she could be eligible for parole.... at any stage of life.... is an insult to the memory of those girls and the lives of all those kids and what they endured.... Americas judicial system is honestly one of the biggest crimes out there
She should’ve been sentenced to death she was disgusting
She can be denied in some cases the court will reexamine a case a deny someone parole.
Still an insult that she’s eligible at all
@@hollythecat410 No the insult is that two sweet little girls are dead and this b🤬tch is still alive.
Most countries are much more lax than the US as far as length of sentence and eligibility for parole. Life sentences without the possibility for parole are not even allowed in many countries.
I have watched many true crime videos and they’re of course horrifying, but this one was definitely one of the worst ones (if not the worst one) i have ever watched. just hearing these kids’ situation made me sob into tears and made me realize how lucky many of us are… i cant even begin to imagine the emotional AND physical pain they went through… it’s just evil at its purest form
I believe Terry died in 2011 which is so heartbreaking, she was so brave for speaking out about her childhood and getting justice for her sisters. Rest in peace ❤️
Thank you for this update
What happened to her :(
@@FriedaLeahx probably passed from old age or something
@@Lee0xow she wouldve only been 30ish in 2011, i think. The story started in 1980’s
@@phoenixbird2470 she was around 40 and reportedly died from heart failure
Theresa's son William told his story on the Evil Lives Here documentary series. It was so crushing to hear it straight from one of the victims who had to endure this torture for their entire childhood from someone who is supposed to love them unconditionally. This case has always affected me in such a way... Thank you so much Eleanor for telling this case with so much compassion and for doing such thorough research.
do you know what episode??
@@dyymondddb just searched for it! pretty sure it’s season 6 episode 2
I seen that, once she said something about the oldest daughter being under the table for a long time I remember watching this episode.
@@samirahkinnard5770 do you have a link for it?
as a new mom this case absolutely breaks my heart. i cant ever imagine hurting my child. and this awful woman BURNED her kid ALIVE is what baffles me.
To think this all could’ve been avoided if the psych nurses believed Susan
Also if the neighbors had done anything to help at all, like call the police, maybe they could've survived. They lived in a 1 bedroom apartment and there were definitely neighbors. There was gunshots and probably constant screaming. I don't get how neighbors can hear stuff like that happening and do nothing.
@@NikkiC777 they for sure heard the gun shot and possibly Susan's cries
Ive worked in psych hospitals and this doesnt surprise me :/
i feel like part of the reason this happened is because it was still somewhat of the time that children are "seen and not heard"
fucking ridiculous
Just the nurses, really? Why does it always come down to a nurse being blamed? You do realize nurses work under people, right? They don't get to make decisions like that. Doctors and the filthy pigs do. I can almost 100% guarantee there were nurses that believed her, but some asshole doctor or pig said no.
Mothers who harm their children make me so sick. I first heard of this case on Deadly Women and was truly appalled.
I heard about it from there too and so was I. I don’t understand how anyone can do this to their own flesh and blood.
i watched this without any knowledge of the case and felt my heart drop every few minutes when i genuinely couldn’t think she could do any worse. bless those kids and thank god that any of them survived at all
The worst thing is that we all think “if that was my sibling I’d never let that happen” but the sheer terror they must have felt… so horrible
Yes so terrible 😔
Where's matricide when you really need it...
Yeah, I actually caught myself thinking "Why were they so complacent in this? Why didn't they try overpowering their mother?". But just after a minute of thinking, it is easy to find an answer. They saw no other options. They had no friends, no place to go, and no people to reach out to. The abuse was all they had known at the time.
i wonder why they didnt run away like when she was sleeping like they lived i a apartment they could have told anyone and the mom couldnt say all of her kids were crazy like she did with the oldest daughter
@@tanajhtrinidad2047extreme trauma and after Susan's failed attempt for help so probably all had really really bad PTSD cuz of how there mother behaved towards them and the fact that she was beating Susan to the point SHE got tired also possible cuz of the fear they couldnt think straight they knew only pain and how disappointing people can be Susan seeked for help and she died suffering they seen and considering susan had bruises cuts burns on her and they still didnt believe her they seen no help sadly :(
Theresa was worried about her neighbors smelling poor Susan's remain but what about the screams and cries of her children? Were they truly so brainwashed and terrified that they wouldn't even cry out when being abused?
Truly horrific woman
Not woman. DEMON
True psychopathy exists and certain traumas in childhood and/or hereditary from their mother or father or both.
Also, a lack of empathy or rather a leart ability to switch that on & off either for survival or to seem like a "normal" person helps them like manipulation to a drug addict.
@@LynnAgain83 I'd have jumped her and finished her off at one point tbh. For survival. Out of rage. Appoint my siblings to hold her down like they did each other. If they refused I'd still plot.
I mean I was severly abused by a stepmom as a little child. My dad lived in Alaska with her so id have to go every summer. I recall NEVER crying or screaming....literally. The only time I would cry was when I was alone in my room. When you are abused frequently your mind becomes numb to it almost. Sometines I wished I would start crying because she would get madder and madder everytime I didn't show emotion and would do meaner, worse things. It's just so weird. I still to this day, at 27 years old, don't cry in front of people and have very hard time showing emotions in situations that anyone else would. Abuse does weird things to children and adults!
@@dallascordova9717 Eleanor said that they did make noise though in this case, she said Teresa would get mad about Susan screaming and crying in pain, especially after being shot in the back. The gun shot is also something that should've been noticed, but it seems like every neighbor they had just stuck their fingers in their ears and pretended nothing was happeneing next door.
I'm sorry to hear about what you were forced to deal with as a child too, nobody deserves that kind of treatment. I genuinely hope that you're doing better as an adult
As a mom, this really breaks my heart. I could NEVER harm my babies, be jealous of them, anything. Those poor kids didn’t ask to be brought into the world. They didn’t deserve to be raised in an environment with such pure evil physical and psychological torture. I pray the surviving children are healing mentally and doing better.
This is quite possibly one of the most frustrating and heartbreaking cases I have ever heard in my life.
Seriously
Rip to those beautiful girls who didn’t deserve anything but pure love. I’m so angry that she didn’t get the death penalty even if she plead guilty and the fact that she is eligible for parole in 2027 is even more disgusting.
To me im happy she didnt get the death penalty. If you watch jessica kent she said that prison messed her up and now she has severe PTSD people who get the death sentence get a nice meal, and a fast death if its not the electric chair. But her children had to suffer everday. The 2027 thing is disgusting though, completely agree
Another horrific example of why "homeschooled" kids still need someone checking on them!
Why does this keep happening? 💔
I know it’s so unfair these kids were let down by everyone it’s unfair it’s so sad to know what some kids go through daily 😢 god bless those poor kids 😢
I'm homeschooling and it is not that way at my house. Dhs has been intrusive and gave me nightmares if being taken away. Don't lump all homeschooling together😮
@@Lunalovegood-w9f I've heard some truly awful ones lately.
I saw a neighbor girl today, she's 9.
She went to her friends house and as they were biking by as I'm walking my dog, I said, I'm sure your mom has already told you this but, no adult needs your help with ANYTHING!
No lost dog
No lost kid
NOTHING
Don't walk anywhere with them
Don't get in their vehicle!
I wish I'd said, and for the love of God, please don't go into any bathroom with anyone!!
She actually said her mom hadn't told her.
So I said, it doesn't matter if it's a man or woman, DON'T GO!
🙏🤞
@@daniellesmakeuptutorails126they’re not… they’re just saying precautions have to be taken so fucked up shit like this doesn’t happen ever again
Amen! I've never spoken to a homeschooling parent that didn't give me the creeps. Way too controlling. Every homeschooled adult I've met has had social problems. Every. Single. One. They can not handle anyone "different". Be it religion or politics or criticism. They have a very hard time. It should be a red flag. The children should be checked on and their educational development should be measured.
I find Eleanor such a comfort after a bad day I love how she makes it like she’s having a normal conversation with her x
same, she doesnt do crazy editing, it feels so natural
ngl same
Someone else said she has something to the effect of “natural empathy” in her voice. Very comforting and almost takes the morbid part out of our morbid curiosity!❤
Same here ❤
Why her x lol why not just a normal conversation.
If those cops and nurses had just listened to her, all of this probably could have been prevented
Hearing about Theresa being jealous of her daughters, all her money going on alcohol & just being so toxic reminds my of my own mum.
Luckily I never had to experience some of the horror her children had to go through but it hits me hard when I hear stories about women so similar to my mum.
this case really made me think about how women with bpd can become when having no support system and i just wonder seeing as you had thought she was like your mum then maybe you'd find it interesting to look into it? just to be able to further understand her actions if you think it applies
It makes me so sad that Sheila died alone in a cupboard wondering why her siblings had stopped talking to her poor baby
out of all the cases i’ve watched on this channel, (i’ve seen almost every single one), this one has affected me the most. it makes me absolutely distraught to hear about the abuse and pain that was inflicted onto the children. i will NEVER be able to comprehend why people do what they do. teresa was the person that the children were supposed to receive protection and guidance from, not someone who caused them an outstanding amount of suffering.
If you’re interested there’s a movie based on this case.
Agreed, its completely harrowing 😢
same here. i can usually keep a bit of a distance to these cases, otherwise i would probably just feel awful after listening to every single one of them. but this one really broke my heart 💔
Completely agree. I’ve watched almost every video on Eleanor’s channel, but I couldn’t stomach the Richard Huckle video. I couldn’t even make it halfway through, it made me feel physically ill.
@@victoriaking7362 that case made me absolutely furious and disgusted
I absolutely love Eleanor! I also love how she gets so into the story and says things like "She would be gone for days. Not calling, not checking in, not even a text!" - when the case is based in the 70s and 80s 😁 I caught it on another video and again on this one and I just laughed. She's so pa passionate about her stories, she doesn't even realize and I think that's great :)
I noticed that too and came to the comments to see if anyone mentioned it lmao
We're all glad that Eleanor is back. Seemed like she took the necessary break she needed. We are all aware of the fact that we can always trust her with the information she gives.
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Lmaooooooo speak for yourself babe
@@Jasmine-ot8br relax. It got 41* likes so a lot of people can relate and if you wanted to be a bitter melon, then just don't comment because WE don't want the kind of negativity here
@@Jasmine-ot8br why are you on her channel?😭 i don’t get it
@@Jasmine-ot8br 😮
what break??? shes constantly uploading
She has no right to parole, this case makes me sick! Thank you so much for researching and putting this together.
This really hit home. I survived the horrific abuse of my mother and my father, my sister didn't. My parent's manipulated her to doing their bidding ending in her death. Thank you for shining light on the dark World of the abused.
Same!! Was looking for someone else who had gone through similar experience... We all had different fathers though and I lost my older brother from our mom. It's not surprising to me that she had her employer fooled by the time she got arrested. No one knew what we went through except us and few bystanders but we ended up moving everrytime someone had witnessed who she rreally was. If you were as close to your sister as I was my brother sorrrry for your loss and even if you werrent close I still imagine the loss was hard.. t seems like knowing what it feels like I'd have something morre comforrting to say ... Hopefully you're healing frrom the trauma ❤
this is exactly how my aunt, my blood aunt, treated her foster children over the span of 20 years. 12 girls, 2 boys. it started with a family of siblings, 2 boys, 2 girls. the youngest was only 4 yrs old and the oldest i think was about 12 when my aunt fostered them. they would constantly tell others how they were treated, but because they came from a family of dr*g addicts, everyone was told they were "troubled kids" and to not listen to them. including my own mother who said this to me numerous times over the years. the kids couldn't wait until they turned 18 so that they could leave my aunt's house. after the three older kids turned 18 and moved out, it left the youngest by herself and my aunt started fostering only girls after that. that youngest sibling was the first of 3 girls that ran away from my aunts house because they couldn't take it anymore, but was returned to my aunt and then began helping my aunt hurt these other kids over the years. but every single girl, was found and given back to my aunt...."troubled kids".... it wasn't until the last one that ran away in 2019 i think it was, that there was any real investigation done into my aunt. the girl that ran away was special needs and she ran to her older sister's house to escape.
because of her, this nightmare finally ended.....almost.
there was an investigation done on my aunt, she was arrested and put on a nearly 2 million dollar bond, and evidence was found of the horrible things she did to those girls. beds with no mattresses, but had handcuffs and duct tape on the headboard and footboards, human feces on the beds that had mattresses as well as smeared on the floor and walls, and the most horrible thing was the THOUSANDS of photos of these underage girls found on my aunt's computer. unfortunately due to covid, my aunt made bail and her newly married husband helped her. he was also blinded by what my aunt had done. because he had his own house, he NEVER went to my aunt's house.....which by the way was across the street from my grandmother....HER OWN MOTHER....who also had her older brother and younger sister living with my grandmother. and NONE of them knew this was happening either, they were forbidden to see them, which was fine for my grandmother because she never approved of my aunt fostering kids anyway and refused to accept them as her grandchildren, so no one knew what was going on, not even the neighbors around my aunt. anyway, no one knows what happened in 2020 or afterward because of the pandemic. and all of those children, who most are now adults with their own families, have no closure or redemption for what was done to them. all they have is an apology from the judge who told them "i am so sorry we failed you" meaning the whole child protection services. my mother told me that if i believed those "troubled kids" over blood then i was no longer family. so sadly on mother's day 2019, i cut all ties with my mom and her entire side of my family. i don't need or want that in my life....but it will forever haunt me and i will forever regret not standing up for those kids years ago.
it is so hard for me to believe cases like this are real, i’m sorry you had to be forced to do that but you did the right thing
you did what was necessary and im so proud of you
That must’ve been really hard to witness thankfully you didn’t let your family have you follow that same pattern of denial and disbelief even though all they have to do is look! I’m sorry you had to cut off your family but it was really for the best
@@smileyattitude6807 thank you. honestly it was a long time coming and for the first 2 years of that i was basically intimidated by my mom, so that was why i didn't stand up for them when it happened. after i turned 18, i had moved out, which made my mom extremely mad and things were strained ever since. it's been 22 years since that all started and made me look at a lot of things that happened in my childhood....with my aunt, my mom and even my grandma....and made me realize i escaped just in time. you only hear or read about it, or watch shows based off of true events....you never expect to live it. my heart goes out to anyone else who has had to live like any of those poor children, or with other abusive family members and loved ones. it's not easy to watch it as a friend or loved one on the outside either. i am glad that the kids no longer have to live that nightmare....the ones that are now adults have told me that they felt the need to get married and pregnant asap after they turned 18 was so that they could feel "normal" or "human" again....that's heartbreaking. and what is sad is the youngest of the original four ended out married and pregnant and was really really really upset that she had a son, which made me worry for that poor kid and what would have happened if it was a girl instead. my aunt also told that girl that if she ever spoke against my aunt, my aunt would hurt her and her baby and demanded that she return to my aunt's house the moment she was out of jail.....of course nothing was done by the authorities, but i can't imagine living in that fear.
And your Grandmother is also garbage for refusing to acknowledge those poor kids as her grandkids! I hate ppl like her!
I hope those women rest easy. They deserve all the happiness that they never got in life. I'm so proud of Sheila for standing up to her mother even until the end, what a strong woman.
The police, doctors and psychiatrists who didn’t believe Susan and let her back to her mom need to know what has became of that girl.
I hope the guilt drove them crazy
I've been wanting someone to cover this case for ages. It's so disgusting, but I know you'll do the victims justice and always be respectful.
If this is the right case I'm thinking of I think she even beat her child with two by fours well the other ones held them down😔 so sad
I saw this case around the time I was 13 and then really started to realize what damage people can do to each other this case has stuck with me my entire life and motivates me to be kind to my children and to teach them to be kind as well but also to be wary
Me too ever since I saw the movie !
So glad this case got covered. I read the book "mommy dearest" when I was 15. It made such an impression on me
my heart hurts for susan and sheila. poor girls had their whole life ahead of them and both of them were so close to freedom, it’s so heartbreaking.
i also feel so sad for clifford, his death was so senseless.
a lot of stuff went wrong in this case.
This is one of those cases that I physically can't handle. Thanks for giving content warnings and also the title says it all for me 😔
As someone who grew up with a mum who was jealous of my relationship with my dad, parts of this case hit close to home. Things my mum said and did still affect my confidence and mental health to this day.
I'm so sorry. Sending lots of love your way.
I hope your dad divorced your mom
Poor Sheila. Gods. To be forced into that and then wrongly accused and berated because of it. The level of abuse this woman was capable of is literally unfathomable. My heart is so broken over this case. I mean I cannot imagine what these children went through.
Oh, no...she shoukd NEVER be eligible for parole!!! This is definately one of the very top sickest cruelest cases I've ever heard...
It makes me wish they could sentence SOME people to torture 💢
This one is making me physically sick and I am absolutely used to hearing the worst of the worst in True Crime that exists. I'm glad you're doing this case because these victims deserved out their stories heard and their life known about. I love that you do many that have never been heard of before
Eleanor, I am so happy you chose to cover this story! It's woefully under-reported outside of the California/USA West Coast area, and Terry's bravery, courage and remarkable loyalty to her sisters deserves to be heard! Thank you! ❤️
Really ? There’s a whole movie about it :o
@@kaseysewick1691 Whats it called?? Now I'm really excited to check it out!
Thank you!
@@maneckineckbeard1749 the afflicted !
@@maneckineckbeard1749 I really enjoyed it / was interested. Seen it when it first came out and still interested / watch it when I can find it!
This case is absolutely horrific! It’s actually very similar to Sylvia Likens’. She was also severely tortured and eventually died at the hands of the woman who was supposed to be her caregiver. I will never understand people who can cause this much suffering on anyone, let alone a child! 😰
Another thing that just breaks my heart is the fact that Suesan had an adult who genuinely cared about her and her siblings at one point, even if it was for a short time. And then that was ripped away from them. Hope those girls are resting in peace! 🕊️🫶🏻
eleanor actually tried to cover sylvia's case a few years ago, but youtube took it down for being too gruesome..
This is the most heartbreaking case I’ve never heard. I had to stop mid video, and I couldn’t stop crying. I hate to think about, children being abused, they NEVER deserve difficulties. People and the systems ALWAYS fails children, and always had. Rest in peace Susan and Shelia❤️
Terry also passed in 2011 😢
@@Laura-bg4nh ej that’s seriously so sad, I just hope he lived life to the fullest. The same with the others.
I also had to stop, it rarely happens but when it does it is usually these child abuse cases… It is truly heartbreaking what happened to these children 😢
@@MissMimiRainbow Same, it’s truly hard for me to finish child abuse cases.
I screamed in my head when you said they didn’t investigate the house fire. Post fire inspection would have shown an accelerant was used and that in itself is suspicious enough to warrant further investigation as to why someone intentionally tried to burn the house down.
Susan was the most painful story I have ever heard in my entire life . I’m so sorry for her . She tried so hard to fight . We love you Susan
Every time Eleanor mentioned Theresa as a two time killer (running away), I always thought about her (Theresa) as a THREE time killer, considering she was never punished for the murder of her first husband.
It also makes me wonder if she would have been locked away the first time then maybe this would have never happened. 😢
The pain and suffering Susan endured absolutely killed me. My god. Poor poor girl. I wish she had been saved.
why did the eldest brother leave and never think to help his siblings or check on them again?? the neighbors should’ve done something as well like get a wellness check or report the screams/gunshots/etc. this is such a poor investigation my heart goes out to the girls and the other children no one deserves that treatment or abuse.
how are u pointing the finger at the brother? he was traumatised and needed to get out. it’s always easy to say what people should/ shouldn’t have done from an outside perspective but if you live in it it’s a whole different situation.
@@romyph I wasn’t trying to place the blame on him but I wondered why he never reported his mother or get help after recovering
@@noodlesandsprite7052 Most likely guilt, my mother was often times verbally and mentally abusive but I could never report my mother. It's just innate that no matter how much they abuse you, in some way you feel like you deserved it, and the fact people always say, "At the end of the day, she's still your mom." It just cements the fact that you'd be betraying her if you said anything and destroying your family.
Added on, you feel powerless; he didn't have the money to take in all his siblings so they'd all have to foster homes and be locked in the system where he'd never see them again so he just kept trying to give hope that maybe, they'll survive until 18 and he can do better.
Everything was fucked up, from the abuse to the people who allowed this to go on, and the state who's system for the abused just keeps getting worse.
@@chugchug72 I was wondering too. I'd get not sticking around... maybe not even ever returning, even for the siblings... but even if he wasn't going to return for everyone, wouldn't having the police notified and have them in foster homes where the extent of the abuse can't escalate as it did here because of social workers?
I bet it was traumatizing, and its understandable why he abandoned his siblings in that situation... but he did still abandon them. No mention of him for the rest of Eleanor's video... idk. I don't know what I would do if I were in his shoes. There isn't any way for us to know just how manipulated he was by his mother. I bet he felt so incredibly guilty after the death of his sisters went public.
Idk, though... if I were one of the other siblings, idk if I'd be able to forgive him for leaving me and not getting us help.
@@romyph quite easily ... he lived most of his life without being abused, so he knew better.
It’s INFURIATING that this happened to Susan even after she went to authorities pleading for help. Even until this day, claims like this are never taken seriously. Just heartbreaking.
i know. just because its a kid doesn't mean that they're making stuff up.
I was born and still live in Sacramento not far from where this took place, it makes you feel some type of way when it’s so close to home. Thank you for this story. Love love love you Eleanor ❤
i do as well my ears perked up so fast when she said sacramento i will now be spending all night doing sm research on this case
Hi neighbor, 👋 Im just south of you in Tracy 😊
@@teamcougars OMG IM ALSO IN TRACY HELLO!!
Everything is so sad about this case, the mom being such a monster, the siblings who left and didn’t report the mom, the little girl who was not believed when she clearly was in danger 😢💔 as a daughter who grew up in a hispanic home it really breaks my heart and brings back sad sad memories. Our children need protection so badly, they need to be heard and believed 🥺
It's devastating that Susan was so so close to freedom and saving her siblings. Cases with children tortured by parental figures are the toughest for me, I just think the unbearable hopelessness of only knowing hate coming to you must be one of the hardest things to overcome. I will never understand how someone can be so cruel to a child. That woman does not deserve to have kids, this case is the definition of “all kids deserve parents, but not all parents deserve kids.” The fact that she could be eligible for parole is an insult to the lives of all those kids and what they endured. Americas judicial system is honestly disgusting.
Stories like this always remind me of how blessed my childhood was. We may have been poor, but it could've been so much worse.
I appreciate your coverage of this story but you left out quite a few facts that I feel are very relevant to giving her victims their due respect,even in death.. I can remember how I cried the day I found out Terry died.. 😭 William's role was much greater than disposal,he took an active role in beating and punishing the other kids and while I can somewhat understand the impossible position he was put in initially,he was also given opportunities to save them and he didn't.. This is a story that will never be far from my heart because I am a survivor of horrific childhood abuse and I can unfortunately relate to so much of what they went through.. 😔
The problem with saying "he was in positions where he could have saved them" is that for a normal person this is true but he is also a victim of abuse. These people never had proper social education and even for Terry it was years before she did anything to tell the story. Terry also helped out but it'd be stupid to punish her for things she did as a child under extreme duress. I think giving William any prison time would have been a mistake and therapy was the best route. It's the same with Robert, when Elenor was questioning why'd he'd rob a bar. It's because he grew up in such a twisted backward enviorment. It's not just abuse it's isolation and segration. I'm not going to give a psych essay on this but there's a reason many victims like these kids fail to seek help when given a chance. Just look at Susan that is the type of thing that happens often and all the children witnessed it. Putting fault in William for not getting help is like putting fault in Sheila for not getting help when she was out alone as a prostitute. It's not as simple as calling the police. The police are usually garbage you can't put all your faith in them you need a backup which is why Shelia opted to save money
@@finnsnow2495 I can appreciate your analysis and you make some good points,but it doesn't change my opinion of William.. He was free and he still continued to aid in terrorizing and abusing the other kids.. Unlike Sheila who returned home each night because she knew the others needed her.. I'd never blame Terry because she was very young and had no control over anything.. She actually took several beatings for feeding Sheila and giving her water.. She didn't shoot Suesan,Theresa did.. I'm just so glad that she at least got to live free before she died..
@@whispermcgaughy7251 thank you for sharing this with us
@@whispermcgaughy7251 William wasn't free
@@masochistic_art Free,as in he was away from home, working a regular job and eventually away from home and living on his own with a girlfriend..
Thank you so much for the presentation, the thought, and the effort, of your videos. True crime can be such a sensitive topic, but you handle it with such grace! You're wonderful for the True Crime community on TH-cam, and you always handle these cases with such seriousness. Thank you, Eleanor! :]
What happened to Susan breaks my soul into pieces. How can someone endure that much abuse, torture, torment, and anguish in their life? And from her own mother, someone who is meant to love you unconditionally. I don’t understand but it makes me sick to my stomach that this girl was brave enough to seek help, against all instincts and her worst fears came true. I just don’t understand how that can happen to someone, let alone a child. It’s deeply disturbing.
This is honestly one of the most horrific traumatic cases I've ever heard and I've been watching true crime for years
Honestly, my mother tried to kill me. I had been living with her, after I became too ill to work. I had psoriatic arthritis and that was the end of employment for me, and she asked me to go and live with her for a bit. As soon as I got there I knew it was a mistake. She was absolutely seething. After 6 months, I had to run off back to London and try to get help. Nobody believed me. Nobody really cared. Essentially if you pitch up, you have no clothes because you've left them all behind, you are only one up from looking like a homeless person, you've run off, then for all intents and purposes you look like a lunatic. It was awful. 😥I went to the hospital because I still felt ill (she poisoned me) and the nurse promised a blood test would be done. But they lied and sent it off for a CBC which just checks your iron levels. 😖 About a week after I managed to get a proper test and there was arsenic present, but the doctor said it might have been from eating fish. 🙄😡 Well of course by that time there was not as much left after over a week since I'd been poisoned. It validated what I had said, but still nobody would take any notice. I could still cry about that. I had none of my clothes, only a few things I had managed to buy, so I didn't even look like ME. And all I had was a load of people treating me like a loony.
The world really is very cruel!
It is a cruel world, I hope you’re okay now and safe. I hope she is cut off now from your life
I’m so glad you are still here. I’m so sorry that you weren’t believed or really listened to, but I’m glad that the blood test at least confirmed what you already knew. Hopefully you never have to interact with your mom again if you don’t want to, and if you do, it’s in much bigger settings. You deserve to be here, and the fact that a parent would try and poison their kid makes me so angry. I truly hope she realizes one day that you have amounted to more than she could ever hope to.
Hope ypu are doing good now. May god bless you
*hugs* I hope things are better for you now.
@@IbieB Yes I did, 12 years No Contact now. ♥
Finnaly someone covers this! This is the most horrific case I’ve ever heard . Thanks for covering
Every time I think I've heard the worst, most maddening case, I watch another one of your videos that tops it. Wow. I can't believe the evil that happened here, and the negligence by authority. This is some of the worst suffering I've heard a human go through. That poor poor girl. Rest in peace.
This is definitely one of the more harsh cases I've ever heard. I'm glad that the youngest eventually brought everything to light. That kind of trauma you never really heal from but getting justice for her sisters is a damn good start. Bravo Terry 👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you Eleanore❤️ Your announcement letting us know that this has been in the works for a few years, gave me a bit of peace. I have been reaching out to everyone about my childhood friend who was murdered. Her case has been reopened. You made me realized that we are not being ignored and that in time, her story will be told. She was only 12 years. Riverside California
Omg, 25:28, "He adored these kids, and he adored Theresa, even though he didn't have much reason to because she was a bitch." I just spit my drink out! I mean she's not wrong, I just didn't expect that! 😅
Right, that’s the same thing I said😂
this case is heartbreaking.. for her to do those horrible things to her OWN children, some people don’t serve children 🥹 susan was so strong omg.
I watch Elenor while I go to sleep as comfort, I think this is the first case that I can’t sleep after, I feel sick. Those poor girls, all those poor children. Rest in peace… I can’t stop crying now…
I’m pretty surprised none of the kids tried “harming” their mother… i can’t say 100% what I would do since I (thankfully) haven’t been in that position but :( either way what they went through is absolutely awful. Children need to be protected
The brainwashing is insane. I would've killed my mom in that situation but they would've thought this woman was god since they were kids.
I’ve been in a position similar to this nowhere near as bad as This but I remember whenever I thought back my parents would turn everyone against me and that I was a awful violent kid so maybe that’s a reason who knows I guess it depends on the situation and who it is
I also believe that these children developed mentally at a very slower pace due to never having left the house EVERRR and having very small idea of the outside , especially the younger ones. They lived in fear and didn’t know what to do, also they were malnourished and extremely WEAK , they knew they would not have been able to do anything against that woman. It’s like a survival tactic. It would be surprising if none of them developed ptsd
I think they were just too afraid to do so. Like their mother was really evil.
Probably because they’ve witnessed her abuse towards those with equal power like the men in her life and don’t think they’re able to get away from her
Eleanor is so into the story that she says that woman didn't even bother texting the guy when she disappeared for days 🤭🤭 testing in 1963. Funny and cute.
I was waiting for someone to mention this😂
She probably meant calling them, but yeah I noticed that as well lmao
I was looking for this comment 🤣
this case always sickened me. i will never understand how people like her are allowed to be mothers.
Right since seeing the movie I always felt disturbed by this.
Out of all your videos I have watched for some reason this one has me so emotionally. Children don't ask to be born, let alone abused and tortured. How can you do that to a child you carried for 9 months and bore??? She literally killed a part of herself and just didn't give a damn. I can't....😭
In high school I read the true crime novel “Mother’s Day,” about this case. I highly recommend it, it’s a devastating but amazing read.
This case will stay with me. So heartbreaking.
I’ve followed you for over a year and this by far is the most horrendous case. Thank you for telling it so well
She technically got away with murder three times even though you kept saying twice, more like thrice. however, you explain the story brilliantly.
Who was 3? I only heard the 2 daughters
Nvm I read a comment ab the husband
@@laylamarie307 Eleanor also talked about the murdered husband earlier in the video
I wish someone would do an in-depth video on Kelly Brannen. She went missing from where I live, Live Oak, FL. She was passing through and her and her fiancé got into a fight and she was seen getting into a truck. She was at a local Mexican restaurant that is known for putting GHB in girls drinks, over charging cards, AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
They made a document on Paramount plus. They found her pet chicken at the restaurant cooks home. There’s still no arrests made.
There’s been too many missing women or unsolved murders over here. This is a small town. This girl was so colorful and had stopped by the bar I bartend. The staff of Armando’s is barred from my bar.
If anyone would do this story justice, it would be you, Danielle or Kendall without a doubt.
Kelly Brannen is her name once again.
Hate to be this guy but her name is actually spelled Kelley Brannon (just for ease of search). Did some quick reading about this case and it's really weird they didn't look into the owner of said restaurant more.
Her story is a stark reminder to never leave your loved ones alone if they have been drinking, no matter how much you may be upset at them.
Try reaching out to LordonArts on all his social media he does coverage on obscure lesser known missing persons cases.
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Bro, my coworker is always talking praises about live oak and never mentioned that. Holy crap
I can’t believe I just found this comment. I live in like oak as well, and yes this case needs to be spoken about, theirs something fishy going on!!
I can’t believe the hospital staff allowed all that to happen to Susan, if only they had just LISTENED TO HER!!
my deepest condolences to both of these girls. i’ve watched so many of your videos and this channel got me into true crime but i think this is one of the most heartbreaking, frustrating, cruel cases that i’ve ever seen in my life so far. how could a mother do this? thank you for sharing their story eleanor ❤
It is absolutely awful what happened to those girls. RIP babies 💔
Eleanor: *gives her content warnings*
Me who's been binging her all day: Yes
Robert got out of jail after 15 years, almost immediately in 2016 he was convicted of 2 accounts of possession of child pornography. HOPE THIS HELPS!
abuse is a cycle unfortunately
This was one of the most harrowing stories I’ve ever heard. (Can’t believe I never heard about it actually) I’m so happy that I found your channel on TH-cam. And your presentation of these true crime cases is just great. Keep ‘em coming! Terryb
Just found your channel. Brilliant 🎉
Such an evil person. I can't believe this actually happened. RIP to those two lovely girls it's sad how they never got a chance to experience life outside their mothers abuse.
My mom is like this woman in every single way possible and it's crazy to think that people wouldn't listen to Susan but, I've done the exact same thing and nobody listened and I was thought to be crazy, BTW IM SAFE NOW. I DO NOT LIVE WITH MY MOTHER ANYMORE. But it's so heartbreaking to hear such a similar story to mine and be told as true crime.
I'm so sorry. I suffered too. I refuse to hit my children because I always knew it was wrong.
You should do a video on Judith Ann Neeley. She was a murderer around the Alabama area. She kidnapped 13 year old girl and completely tortured her. While they tortured her they put shot of cleaning products in her. Recently her attorney in her case wrote a book. In the book he said her case nearly ruined his life.
The girl named Lisa?
YIKES as someone in the Alabama area that's scary as hell
I watched a segment on Kimberly Fox YT channel.
This case is pure evil, I can't imagine how terrified Susan must have felt especially when no one believed her, yet alone the rest wondering if and when they'd be next
It's disturbing that none of the professionals believed her about being abused like?? What the actual hell
Exactly I mean they could of atleast invistegated I mean this young girl has bruises all over her body her teeth is knocked out I mean how ??
Eleanor I love u and your channel thank you for not faking a "creepy" voice or putting "creepy" background music. You're also very eloquent.
The same thing that happened to Susan, happened to me. I tried to run away from home and got sent to a mental health facility. I told them that my mom was abusing me, and they didn't believe me because my mom is so manipulative she convinced them that I was delusional. That mental health facility was eventually shut down because it was such a bad place to go for children and teenagers.
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I hope you're alright right now :(
So sorry you have to go through all of that, I hope you okay now
I’m sorry you had to go through that, and I’m sorry that the people/system that were supposed to help ended up failing to do anything except make it worse. I’m glad someone finally saw the harm being caused by the facility and that it got shut down.
I hope you’re in a safe place now and that you are able to get the help you need. I hope you’ve found your people and that you can see how incredible you are.💜
been there - my mother too, did some awful awful stuff and then cried a few crocodile tears and got away with it. im sending you love and i hope youre doing okay 💜
I really love your videos, I admire how in depth you look into these cases. I especially appreciate how you are able to put certain situations into perspective with your empathy and insight. You're just such an incredible person to bring these true crime cases to light. Please keep on doing what you're doing, thank you for being so thorough and understanding in these cases
I have a different theory I think he stayed because he loved those kids and he knew that he was the only light in their life, not because he loved her.
Wish he had told social services and saved the kids
I wonder what his reaction was to finding out this happened… I hope he doesn’t blame himself.
Watch the movie , pretty good and then you get to see their reactions / and such portrayed
@@kaseysewick1691 whats the movie called