Hey Eleanor ❤️absolutely enjoy watching your videos, all the way from South Africa... Would love if you shared a few tips on how you lost weight some times, as I am currently on my own weight loss journey (I noticed your amazing progress from your previous videos and recent 🤩) You looked and still look absolutely amazing girll ❤️❤️❤️
There's a case going on right now very similar to this one. Ex minister of economics in Kazakhstan beat his wife Saltanat Nukenova to death in his restaurant. It lasted for 10 hours. Her last moments were full of pain and despair. He just sat next to her still warm body to have a meal. Because he got hungry after torturing her for hours.
Let me tell you another disturbing story. A few days ago in Greece, a 27-year-old woman walked into a police station in Attica to report her ex-boyfriend for stalking and harassing her. As she exited the police station, she saw him waiting outside and asked the police for a patrol car to accompany her because her ex was there and stalking her. The police's response was that the patrol car is not a taxi, and they couldn't do what she asked. Minutes later, he fatally stabbed her outside that police station. Her name was Kyriaki Griva.
@@heymeemowI don’t get why people say “what is wrong with the world” when it’s men doing these things. Seems more accurate to say “wtf is wrong with MEN?”
I really wish they'd teach more on the signs of abuse, not just what abuse is. Abuse doesn't usually just start up right away. It starts with manipulation, I wish schools would explain that more. I feel like it would reduce the number of cases like this, and it broke my heart to know that this isn't as uncommon as it should be.
A great point. The police and the courts of all nations of this world need to be trained better on how to protect domestic violence victims. The police and the courts failed this poor woman and her child.
Hi Eleanor, as a Bosnian myself I wanted to thank you for covering this case. We feared that Nizama's name will be forgotten but because of your big community and worldwide viewers everyone will now know about Nizama. After Nizama's death, things took dark turn. Every month we have another femicide case since our police department does nothing to protect victims of domestic abuse, nor women in general . Few months ago, in Tuzla, town near Gradačac, a police officer shot and killed a woman in her own coffee shop just because she told him they were closing. She was a mother, a sister, an aunt and beloved woman in community. Her name is Amra Kahrimanović, and she should not be forgotten either. What makes me so sad that instead of protecting women in our country they are now exposed to more violence. We want justice for Nizamq, Amra and every victim but sadly due to lack of empathy in police department, we do not know if we will ever get it. But you made me so happy with this video, because now I am sure that Nizama will never be forgotten.
As a fellow from the Balkans from Macedonia, I am devastated to hear this. The situation is similar in Macedonia and it’s just terrifying to be a woman these days.
I am from Kazakhstan and there’s a big case of domestic ab*se in trial now. Former minister of economy k*lled his wife in a restaurant and pleads not guilty. Thinking of all the victims of these horrific men, I hope karma gets them.
I was reading about this the other day, so extremely heartbreaking! I have to admit that it does give me some hope about his sentencing that the judge is a woman, I truly wish that mistake of a human that Bashimbaev is serves a maximum sentence and then some for what he did!
femicide and abuse against women in the balkan region is not taken seriously at all, it's heartbreaking. i remember seeing the clips of the livestream being spread on social media and just seeing so many people,mostly teen boys,joking about the situation. truly sick. this could've been prevented if the police actually did their job. just a month ago there was another case of femicide in bosnia, a cop shot his girlfriend in broad daylight and it took hours to arrest him. if the law won't protect women then who will? these cases sparked some protests so hopefully something might change. it's important to share these stories and to remember these women. thank you for covering this case.
not even much here in the UK. they did nothing to protect me from my ex. I had to go the civil route for a restraining order instead. I feel so awful for this lady
In this case what could the police have done? It's hard to understand, but the police can't arrest someone just because someone else accused them of something. It's very hard to prove threats and stalking, and honestly Even if she has a restraining order what would that have done? Believe me murder is a much bigger crime than violating terms of a restraining order, if he was willing to murder her and broadcast it to the world, nothing the cops could legally do would stop him
@@mktrilldude what? she asked them to escort her because she felt unsafe and they basically told her to fuck off. that’s what they should’ve done. was make her feel protected as listened to her despite not being able to do anything to her ex they could’ve made her feel safe but they chose not to. that’s what they should’ve done.
yeah, I'm not from Bosnia, but from a neighbouring country. what has been happening on the Balkans recently is just terrifying. the school shooting in Belgrade, then the mass shootings in Mladenovac and Smederevo, then this... also, Vanja Gorcevska in North Macedonia, now the little girl, Danka's case from Banjsko Polje... to say that I am horrified is an understatement.
The case IS VERY SIMILAR Please we need your help.🇰🇿 We need to bring worldwide attention to the case of Saltanat. Her soon to be ex husband ( ex minister of economics of Kazakhstan) killed her. He asked her to have a dinner with him in his own restaurant. There he proceeded to beat her for 10 hours. She died of her injuries. Then he sat down to have a meal next to her dead body. Later on he tried to delete CCTV footage of the murder, but was unsuccessful. The trial is still going, but it feels like he might get away with it.
I’m from Bosnia, and the city where this all happened is an hour away from me. Our country is pretty small, and this all shocked everyone. I cannot begin to explain how much damage this has left, and the fact is after everything happened in our country there are still people who are saying he’s maybe right, because she probably cheated on him, or she did something to him and those people are mostly men. I think that explains a little bit mentality that our people especially men have here. When she called police and reported him, a female police officer actually told Nermin because she was his friend, and possibly thats why he got mad. A fucking female officer for gods sake. Abuses sre still happening, just a few months ago a man killed his wife because she wanted to divorce him. I’m lucky I grew up in such a community where in my 20 years of life I’ve never met someone who thinks like that but men like that are out there in Bosnia believe me. A few days ago, a man killed a waitress because she told him they were closing, and he is A POLICE OFFICER! Yes a police officer, and nothing was done about that. Also one note; yes Nermin maybe did experience war, and yes it was hard for him as a child, but so did millions of other Bosnian people, such as my father, my uncles, my grandpa, other people families and still they managed to cope with that. He’s pure evil, and I hope he never rests in peace.
Exactly! Well said. I remember when the case was first reported in our trash media, there were men saying she probably deserved it (with their full first and last name visible to everyone on Facebook) with zero shame, some of them even using laughing emojis. Absolutely disgusting. And I also believe that our media/tabloids is the reason 'allegedly' had to be used so much in this case. Every single speculation and rumor was presented as a scandalous news title. They covered this as if it was gossip and not a nation wide TRAGEDY.
This is actually so sad. I forgot that there are some places in the world that still have such a widespread mentality of male dominance and basically promoting domestic violence
I can actually say something positive, yall didnt find this....but NOBODY CLAIMED HIS BODY, not his friends, nor his family, they said they didnt want anything with him. Good
But since he has incredible connections to the police, he could have also disappeared and not be dead. I'm from the country mislim da si i ti, and that's one of the theories.
@@batshebaeverdene1158 ja sam iz Hrvatske, ali brate kao da sam živjela u Bosni nekih par tjedana oko tog slučaja. He ain't got that strong of connections, cause some of the cops he was cool with were questioned in Croatia actually....
@@mihaelajukic1314 ne znam, moguće. Ali koliko znam bilo je priča takvih još da ima veze sa nekim pedofilskim krugom i to da je ubio prije je navodno istina. A ko će znati, sve je umrlo nažalost sa njima sad.
I think that all the people that had a hand in rejecting her restraining order should be fired from their jobs and forbidden from doing that job ever again so they can't hurt anyone by willfully neglecting their duties
I agree. And the man had told a similar story about Kyriaki Griva who was 27 abused went to the police station to request a restraining order... Seen her bf outside slowly watching driving back and fourth , so she ran back inside the police station and let them know asking for assistance getting to her car or home. They told her no the police station isn't a taxi service. Kyriaki Griva was murdered that day by her bf Infront of the very police station
The judge that rejected the restraining order was actually a woman who he trained in the gym, they were friends. Also a female police officer who was sleeping with him told him that Nizama reported him and they were never punished.
As someone who is from Bosnia, I can say I’m really glad that someone who’s got this huge audience is covering this case from our small country and sharing this story that shocked everyone there!
Ellie has covered so many cases and to watch her cry and her voice crack talking about that little girl and her having to watch her mother be in so much pain just absolutely kills me
As a person from Balkans, thank you for talking about femicide in our countries. Its a huge issue here, yet misogyny is getting worse day by day, and our governments do nothing.
I'm from Croatia myself and it's truly awful.. I can't wait til I can move out of here. Misogyny, racism, homophobia and transphobia is so normalized and our people are so uncultured its sad.
As a Bosnian I'm so glad you covered this case! So much homicide happend after this one, almost every month happend that husband kills his wife.. and government is still doing nothing. Thank you for sharing this and spreading awareness.
it irritates me that police don’t do anything when that’s their whole job, I wish we could actually do something about it but there’s a lot of corruption going on in governments
i don’t think her mind will remember, but the body never forgets that kind of trauma. Lots of kids who were removed from traumatic living situations before the age of 2 still have longstanding behavioral issues because of events they don’t consciously remember. I hope she’s okay.
It goes actually way deeper... if he was abusing her while pregnant the baby suffers unusual amounts of stress cortisone and doesn't develop the same brain as a child who didn't endure this. Even kids who are adopted at birth still suffer from what happend before birth Its just not spoken enough about
there is something called pre-verbal trauma, which is a kind of trauma that happens to someone before they have fully developed speech. so yes, sadly this will very likely stay with her
She’ll remember. I remember the worse trauma I went through starting at age 3. Everyone thinks I don’t but I do. Trauma stains your brain unfortunately. That poor girl
I’ve no idea why I freak out when I’m in the shower I just do, that took me so much more effort to work through than like some of the trauma I do remember. It’s so helpful to talk about things but I don’t know what happened with that… I hope she does remember it’s harder at first but easier in the long run in my opinion.
Hearing that this poor little baby had to not only WITNESS this, and to was screaming for her poor mother, then he showed her reaction.. and abandoned her with her lifeless mom.. i cannot stop crying. This is such a terrible story… my heart broke in a million pieces for Nizama and her precious baby..
As someone who has family and friends in the Balkans, specifically Bosnia and Croatia, misogyny and familial abuse specifically towards women is SO common. It’s actually horrifying. Misogyny is very common, even in day to day life. The authorities have been letting down women AND children for decades. And sadly steroids/ - any other type of drugs are very accessible in the Balkans. So many children get into crime and drugs in their teens.
This poor woman did everything right, she tried so hard to keep this man away from her and she still lost her life...the police need to be held accountable
even in my own experience the police did so little to help me when I was dealing with this... and I'm in the UK where the police are always talking about ending DV and telling victims to come forward but they don't actually do anything and just endanger you more. this is a worldwide issue. Definately need to keep talking about it and make sure people are aware of this
I am Bosnian and I have been watching you Eleanor for years now… and it is horrible realization to see case from my country in true crime… it is the first time I saw someone cover Bosnian case, so i always kept thinking how grateful I am that things we see in true crime don’t happen here… but this is as gruesome as it gets.. such a sad story
*Women threw themselves under him. He had a side chick named Dzenana, she was a police officer, allegedly, she told him where Nizama was hiding because only police knew. I watched that live broadcast, almost saw the whole thing... He was a know criminal and drug(s) abuser since 2013. Nizama was hiding in her aunts house so when he came to search for her he fired shots at her brother too, they were trying to prevent him from taking her.* *Actually, Denis and Dzengis weren’t his random victims, ALLEGEDLY he owed them money, that’s why he called them enemies.*
A Bosnian here, how you pronounced Gradacac was very impressive, everything else was also good, but I didn't expect a foreigner to pronounce that word so clean!
A restraining order is useless against this type of person. It would have only given her a false sense of security. Just like gun-free zones and sex offender lists. They may make you feel good, but they never stop someone with pure intent.
Very true. I have had a restraining order on my ex boyfriend for two years now, and he broke it 7 times, the police did nothing about it. He still tries getting in contact with me.
Yes and no. They aren’t what would be most beneficial. However in some situations they are because then the contact/stalking is a chargeable offense that puts them in jail long enough for the victim to get their things and leave far away
There's a special place in hell for this twisted sick vile human . Domestic abuse is pushed under the rug far too much in this day and age . Absolutely heartbreaking
Thank you for this video. I live in Bosnia and it happened near me. The whole country was in shock and still is, it was the first time that something like that happened publicly. Unfortunately, after that public broadcast of the murder, at least 10 more happened in the same way - for the sake of popularity.. We live in a terrible world :(
I’m a survivor of an abusive relationship myself. I was stabbed in my left breast with a screwdriver all because someone was upset that they couldn’t manipulate me anymore. It’s been 11 years.
I'm so sorry that happened to you; I hope both your physical and mental recovery has been as smooth as possible ♥️ and I'm so happy you're out of that situation
@@JadenAkritasthank you for the concern 💜 since I left that relationship, my life got so much better! I went to counseling and everything after it and it really helped me heal a lot
I too am a survivor and they are at their most dangerous when they can’t manipulate you or even any children you had with them. People think once you leave the abuse just stops. As we both know it’s when they will ramp up their endeavours to hurt you. Sending a hug from one survivor to another
@@reyah8934 of course! ♥️ It makes me happy to hear your life has changed for the better and that you found the happiness you deserve!! Keep living your best life and show that jackass that he didn't take away your joy and happiness 😌♥️
That last picture of her baby girl's foot in the crib had me sobbing so hard, he's pure evil and she deserved to live a happy life with her daughter and he took that away for both of them... Those who denied her restraining order should not be in their positions and I hope she's haunting them for ever.
I worry significantly for the child, exposure to abuse, witnessing death, being put in the care system… the list of risk factors is immense, and if we know anything about criminality, this is how it all starts 😢 I hope that poor little girl gets the help and support she needs asap and throughout her entire childhood + extended life ❤
Im a bosnian and i live quite close to where this happened. I remember us all being really traumatized because we saw the live…. and we were all so soo horrified and scared because our police is uncapable of protecting is from people like him. Also you forgot a very important factor in this case. On the day of the murder, Nazama was running away and hiding from him, earlier she contacted police and they did nothing. he found her and dragged her to this cottage house in the middle of the woods and murdered her .BUT, police didnt do anything, because Neemin had a lover, a mistress at the police station, she worked there and therefore they didnt do anything because she said not to. Police could also stop the murder, because they were looking at the live and knew where it was, but they didnt. They waited for Neemin to “finish his business”. Its sad and disappointing and disgusting. Bosnian police is corrupted and absolutely sick. Becof Bosnian police and general politics, thousands of people every day leave the country due the corruption and everything similar.
They should all face consequences. Neemin especially. How do you let this happen knowing where it is. Its sick. Should still be an eye for an eye and maybe people would knock it off.
@@Elina-- Yes, she was hiding in her aunt's house, and only the police knew that. It's said his side chick police officer gave the information away and therefore he found her, dragged her out of the house and to the cottage where he killed her
@@Elina--yes, he shot at her family members and they couldn't protect her. She sacrificed herself by getting into the car with him to protect them from the bullets.
Thank you for talking about femicide in the Balkan region. Many cases go unnoticed and our governments don't care. I'm from a neighbouring country and this tragedy truly shocked me to the core. Since this murder I feel like it keeps getting worse and worse. It feels like this was an "invitation" to other men to do the same. Same as the mass shooting in Serbia. Since that more and more cases appear and they are not even known because it keeps getting covered up!!!
** UPDATE ** I had to take a break, walk my dog & ground myself before watching more after the video description. This one was hard to swallow. Thank you for giving her a voice again, Eleanor! I usually shut my emotions off with true crime but it was impossible with this case. My heart is shattered. That poor baby and mama. This will keep my thoughts running tonight. I hate that monster that did that to them
no fr, ive been researching cases for years and this is the first in a WHILE where ive had to pause/rewind to process what im hearing, its so gutturally painful :( (look after urself
@@heymeemowyes i just updated this comment about how i had to take a lil break from the video and ground myself. My hearts still broken. I hope that sweet baby is getting the therapy and love she so deserves
I cannot believe Eleanor is covering a case from my country. Truly a heartbreaking case that shook the nation but unfortunately nothing much has been done after to stop other sickos from doing it to someone else
There is a case in Russia, when husband cut off his wife’s hands and brought her at hospital himself. The police was able to find the body parts (hands) in the forest where the case was taken place. Fortunately, the girl survived and doctors even saved one of her hands. Her name is Margarita Grachyova and she’s such a strong woman. There’s a TV show based on this case
@@IbieB How do you know how they reacted? And what were they gonna do? Teleport through the screen? You freeze up even when in front of a scene like this, let alone a screen away, where it's harder to even process what's going on. And even when the news got to them of the livestream they wouldn't have had enough time to get there, she was already beaten up and dying on the floor before it even begun and the gunshot was fired quickly. It's not a victims fault nor their family's, even more in this case considering Nizama had contacted the police a lot of times before trying to get that disgusting man away from her
He didn't realize what he suddenly did like he had a crisis of conscience. He did it because he was a coward who couldn't face up to the consequences of his horrific crimes
"This is honestly one of the worst that kept me up at night." As someone who has watched you for years, I totally agree. Usually, true crime horrifies me, but this one absolutely broke me. That poor baby. I don't know her, but I want to fight for her somehow
I saw the video of it and it was incredibly upsetting. Her face so unrecognisable from the beatings and her baby daugher a few feet away crying on the floor as her mum slipped away. 😢
i remember watching it and seeing the defeat on her face that she had just accepted what was going to happen completely shattered me. i remember crying for days after
It’s so eerie too seeing as it was such a beautiful day, landscape. People cutting grass, playing outside. And there’s a home where this is happening. Absolutely devastating. 😢There was also so much blood in the car and the floor of the house. I can’t even imagine what that poor woman went through. 😞
Omg I can’t believe you covered this case. I am from Croatia, my mother from Bosnia and I was following this guy. I saw that live video.. it’s so sad how this turned out and my heart goes out to every victim of any type of abuse. Truly heartbreaking
The fact that that video is still out there is disturbing on so many levels. I haven’t finished this video but due to the gravity of the situation and his crime I firmly believe that he should have gotten the death penalty. That man was gloatingly about his crimes, so much so that he filmed everything live on Instagram. I pray her child never comes across the footage/photos, and that she finds comfort in knowing her mother tried everything she could to save both of them. I hope Mum Nizama is resting in peace, protecting her baby from above.
greetings, I'm from the city where this murder happened. I will never be able to forget that day and the pain that we as citizens of this city felt. Thank you for protecting our Nizam from oblivion
You all worked so hard on this one I'm gonna try to hang in here for the whole case. I'm only 20 minutes in & it's so much like my ex husband it's triggering. But I'm a firm believer in we can't want people to hear us & believe our truths of DV if we don't extend the same courtesy to others who have been there. Especially if they didn't make it out. We owe it to them to pick up the torch & keep shedding light on what was done to them. Thank you @Elanor & team for sharing these stories like hers that don't get the coverage they deserve.
Thank YOU for staying so incredibly strong and helping this case get heard. Raising awareness, helping others that are suffering or have been suffering 💜 You are so important!
In so many of these videos, the murderer try so hard to leave no evidence behind, to leave the scene with no indication that they had ever been there in the first place. I think what makes this case so much more harrowing is that he had an audience; he had made that concious decision to go live and have someone there to witness his actions. It was all so intentional.
but then again, he was an influencer. A curated version of his life was always under surveillance, so why ruin that image? It's really strange how someone who's intention is to kill or hurt would broadcast that, especially when he had been an influencer. Usually influencers would strive to keep that image of themselves up.
I agree. It’s the ones who so blatantly and clearly don’t give two shits about what they’ve done or that they’re obviously going to get caught. It’s like a “well if I’m going out, I’m going out with a bang” type of thing- which, most times, is way more intentionally destructive to others/those involved than just a normal crime where the person tries to get it done then get out of there as swiftly and quietly as possible. The person obviously doesn’t care about their own life and the other’s lives involved, so they’re going to make it a big show and turn their violence/actions up to 11 and “go down fighting.” So harrowing…
You're so right. Ofc Eleanore has covered cases like this one before where the killer has intentionally made it so there are witnesses, and I understand that it's like an attention thing. He knew he would be caught simply because of the brutality of his actions, and a lot of hate and intention goes into beating someone half, if not, to death. Sometimes influencers like to shield their views and fans from their personal life because they enjoy the image they have made for themselves, like the whole Wilbur thing (ew), but I really can't get my head around him streaming it. I can understand that he wanted to go out with a bang (again, ew) but I can't understand, understand it. In some weird way, not completely understanding gives me a bit of comfort, because understanding completely, in every way, makes the killer relatable, and GOD FORBID anyone EVER relates to someone so fucking evil.
That's 12 thousand sick people that would even watch it happen. That poor baby girl made to witness this horrible scene. Prayers for her and her mother and family. The police need to be fired.
A lot of people didn't have any idea what is the live about and when they saw it they had to ask help in the hospital. The problem is that the video was available on Instagram for hours. How was that possible?
I truly want nothing more than to just give that poor little child the biggest hug. I really really hope she’s doing okay. Not many things can make me cry the way I did the second I heard that the poor little girl was there the whole time, and it just kept getting worse. My heart goes out to the family and everyone else affected.
Honestly I think it just allows us to see the worst in humanity. People have always been this awful and depraved. Now they can just post pictures and videos of their depravity.
Eleanor thank you so much for covering this case, femicide is really common in our country and you covering this case is really valuable for our country, more people need to know Nizamas name, may she rest in peace.
Same. As a mother this one had me balling. I can’t even imagine the horror that mother endured knowing her baby was present. Afraid he may kill her too I’m sure.
When I say I saw the live video I wasn’t able to sleep for days, it still plays on my mind regularly and is most possibly the most upsetting messed up thing I’ve ever known!
can you do case about little girl that went missing also in Bosnia. There is documentary called “ Gdje je Sara? “ which means where is Sara. Anyway that is a case from 2018 and investigation just started bc this is first time for people hearing this story after that documentary that was posted this month I think. This is first time for case being online so you can do updates by posting it in english which could help finding Sara 💗
i'm from slovenia and i've seen this video being shared everywhere at the time it was happening.. i never knew the background story to this case so thank you so much for covering it. i still think about her almost every week..
A fellow Slovenian - this is so rare in the TH-cam universe! ☺️ I was born and raised in Switzerland and my mom is Slovenian😊 I've never heard of this case...it's so heartbreaking! And then I thoughz: Why...just why... No war and trauma justifies this atrocity...😢😢😢
@@mirjanazadravechi!! when the video was broadcasted i was working my shift at a restaurant and all of my customers were sharing the video, showing it to eachother. i will NEVER forget her face and that poor little baby's cries. as a fellow slovenian you must know how toxic some balkan cultures are and how our little boys are raised to be these arrogant and entitled monsters.. it sadness me for our beautiful countries, we deserve better, our women deserve better and our sons should be RAISED better. domestic violence is so common and accepted in our parts.. it breaks my heart..
AND ALSO, the bosnian government?? doesnt care. they never have. domestic violence is SO normalised over here it's sick. women are viewed as less and always have. there NEED TO BE CHANGES!!! i dont want my son growing up thinking THIS is normal. or just stumbling upon a video like this because I havent done my job as a parent and kept him away from this!! but this is a systematic issue!! and thank you.. thank you eleanor for talking about this. you are the only person that HAS SPOKEN ABOUT THIS!!
13:36 literally rewound your surprise feeling myself moment bc it was so adorable. Thanks for letting your personality break the tension sometimes when we are hearing about such awful events.
You got through this story stronger than I could have. I’ll be thinking about that little girl for a while. I hope she is being loved and well taken care of.
A woman who I went to school with was murdered by a man she rejected that she worked with. He had former reports made against him by other women who even moved away from where they were living because he was stalking them. He killed Gracie Spinks when she was with her horse one morning and then he killed himself. Police were contacted by Gracie multiple times and a bag of weapons was found in a field near where she was murdered not long before the murder happened and it was reported to the police but they did nothing. There’s a whole enquiry going on about stalking in the UK and the family are doing amazing things to try to get a law passed for stalking. I think raising awareness of this is really important. The whole community has been affected by it and it could’ve been avoided if the police had helped or cared enough.
This broke my heart, I adore hearing of cases from Balkan regions (rarely see some cover it) but as a fellow Bosnian, id never known of this case, that poor woman.. Allah be with her😔😔💔
Thank you for covering this case! I’m from Croatia and this case shook the whole Balkan region to the core. Unfortunately the baby daughter was 9 months old at the time of the murder…
This could be one of the worst cases I’ve ever listened to. The daughter will be carrying one of the most horrific traumas imaginable, I don’t know how anyone could do that to their child and for her to be left with her mum, confused and likely trying to wake her up, that breaks my heart for this girl
I am from Croatia (Bosnian by mom and dad) and I wanna thank you for a great video you made about the case! Thank you one million times!❤ I love your work!
Excellent work , Eleanor. This is absolutely horrific. My sympathies to Nizama’s family. I hope her precious daughter can grow up happy and healthy. May Nizama rest in peace.
i was born in Gradačac and grew up in Šamac and violence against women is never taken really serious. It’s very traditional there when it comes to gender roles so women aren’t really seen, like at all, there just expected to sit and abide by their husband no matter what they do. it’s really sad but i’m really happy you covered this case!! thank you!
same. an old friend sent it to me being like 'omg wtf is this' and i froze, i wish i would've clicked away when i realised what she sent. ended our friendship right then and there of course. absolutely disgusting.
Nermin thought the police were his enemies but apparently they were his biggest fans bc they sure didn’t do anything to keep him away from his ex wife.
This case is so heart breaking I’ve literally watched like every single of ur vids since 2019 and I usually eat dinner or I’m cleaning while watching but omg I had to stop watching while eating it’s so heartbreaking I can’t imagine the trauma that poor girl is going to struggle with mentally as she gets older and understands more. Poor child my heart goes out to her and her family 😢 x
this is one of the few true crime cases that i just couldn't get through. eleanor you presented this so beautifully and with the perfect gentle touch, but stuff like this is so difficult to hear about without wanting to throw up. that poor baby, i genuinely cannot even imagine what that must have been like for her.
Thank you so much for covering this case! 🙏🏻 Some of my family members living in Bosnia have actually watched that live stream and had to prevent others from watching it because it was so traumatizing. This case shook the whole nation to the core.
i've seen something similar to this on twitter, it was taken from a twitch stream where he locked his partner out on the balcony and i think she froze to death, they bought her back in on the stream.. its miserable. women deserve better.
This case is heartbreaking and unfortunately parts of the live stream were going around Twitter last year. I saw the video and it was horrifying. I hope her daughter never stumbles across it 💔 Truly terrible she asked for help and was denied
Please consider covering the case of Eloá, from Brazil. It's similar to this one, plus the fact that Eloá was hold captive for DAYS while the hole midia made a show of her death. It happened in 2008, and as a Brazilian I wish more people knew about her.
Stephanie Soo (Mango Butt) did a cover of that story. Ofc Eleanor can too, I'd just like you to know it's being covered, so maybe that can lighten some weight. Much love from Scotland
this case is disgusting, I cannot understand how people think they have the right to kill someone else. Eleanor when you teared up it made me also tear up. I thank you for your compassion and the way you continue to present your cases and videos, giving the victims the attention and respect they deserve.
it just makes me sick to my stomach to know that there are probably so many other horrible and sick people out there murdering/abusing etc. other victims and we have no idea…😭
as someone who was sexually and physically abused by a male figure at that age, and had it last until i was about 18. this makes me so. dizzy. its sort of ineffable the kind of ache i feel for that little girl. tears leave my eyes despite no warning of even crying. i weep for her. i weep for her innocence.
this is one of, if not THE the most harrowing case ive heard of, i cant believe it happened LAST YEAR. completely unavoidable, that poor girl like ohmygod :((
Thank you, Eleanor, for covering case from my country. I’m so used watching your videos, but it’s so weird knowing everything about the case before I even watched it. And because I’m so used watching true crime videos, I’m never shocked when some murder happens, but when this happened… I don’t know how to describe how was I feeling. Maybe it’s because I watched that IG live, because I saw how did she looked like… I don’t know, but I remember I was upset for months. Even today, when I see a girl similar to her on the street, I always think of her and her last moments. So, so sad.
thanks for covering this case and showing sorrow, empathy, and humanity in a respectful way. I think a cool freaky friday topic you should do would be anesthesia awareness. love you ellie!
Eleanor, this was a tough one. I am hoping that this little girl is receiving the help she needs and is surrounded by love and care. As hard as it was, I am glad you covered this case as awareness of domestic violence is important and that we need to hold not only the perpetrators accountable but those in the justice system who act ineffectually and with disregard. Please look after yourself and also to your team as this must have been difficult to compile and present. Sending warm wishes from Australia 🇦🇺
Hi Eleanor, I’ve watched your videos since you started true crime. I wanted to Thankyou so much for covering this tragic case. I am croatian and this case was such a big story when it initially happened, through reading some of these comments and even personal experiences - in the balkans the police and generally useless especially when it comes to DV. It is absolutely true that the thinking is somewhat backwards when it comes to men vs women and this tragic story breaks my heart and brings me to tears each time I hear it. Please cover more stories in the balkans, they’re only ever spoken about within those select countries and stories like the baby Danka who was recently found in Banjsko Polje need to be covered on more widespread media.
The police here is horrible. 3-4 months ago in Tuzla (near Gradačac) was a case where policeman shot a women (with service pistol) because he had psychotic problems and was NEVER at mental examination which is crucial for that thype of work. So, we sucked.
As most people are who regularly listen to true crime, I'm quite desensitized to the violence, however hearing about that poor little girl.. Its been years since i've cried listening to a true crime case. I wish her the absolute best. Thank you for sharing this story, Eleanore, it's such an important thing to be talked about despite its harrowing elements.
It was speculated that police killed him, because he was armed and in the car. They didn't want to risk more casualties, allegedly. It was all speculation in the media
Oh man. I’ve listened to a lot of your videos, and this is one of the very few that really got me. I have a 1.5 year old, and imagining something like this happening to an equally innocent, precious baby just kills me. That man is a monster, I’m glad he took himself out of the world
Oh Eleanor you beautiful soul, that was a difficult one. So extremely sad 😢 you did so well pulling it all together, what a professional strong women you are. Much love x
I'm from the Balkans but live in the UK and want to provide some context. Coming from a stable less corrupt country, I can see why you would assume that the police were just stupid or overwhelmed with other work and ignoring a serious issue but in the Balkans this is almost never the case. The police know and are complicit in crime - these are small countries with low population densities. Police men in the UK work like crazy, while these guys twiddle their thumbs all day until they get notified of anything. It is therefore an active choice to ignore it, not a mistake. These kinds of people get away with things because our police system is complicit in their crimes for years until it comes impossible for the world to look away from them. Men like this give police bribes for years on end to keep a lid on things or they just have a personal connection on the inside (a relative, a friend, a something on the side). I believe him when he says he's murdered before. It is ironic that his own ego was his downfall.
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There's a case going on right now very similar to this one.
Ex minister of economics in Kazakhstan beat his wife Saltanat Nukenova to death in his restaurant.
It lasted for 10 hours. Her last moments were full of pain and despair. He just sat next to her still warm body to have a meal. Because he got hungry after torturing her for hours.
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check out the Caroline Crouch murder in Athens!! It was a huge case both in Greece and the UK. It would be interesting to do a case from Greece!!
Let me tell you another disturbing story. A few days ago in Greece, a 27-year-old woman walked into a police station in Attica to report her ex-boyfriend for stalking and harassing her. As she exited the police station, she saw him waiting outside and asked the police for a patrol car to accompany her because her ex was there and stalking her. The police's response was that the patrol car is not a taxi, and they couldn't do what she asked. Minutes later, he fatally stabbed her outside that police station. Her name was Kyriaki Griva.
heartbreaking. she deserved better, women deserve better. continue to spread her story and say. her. name.
That's so horrible. The police failed her. Thank you for sharing her story.
holy shit thats so tragic :(( wtf is wrong with the world
@@heymeemowI don’t get why people say “what is wrong with the world” when it’s men doing these things. Seems more accurate to say “wtf is wrong with MEN?”
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THIS is WHY abuse victims don’t leave. So so sad. My entire heart goes out to her family and friends.
breaks my heart annoys me even more that half the time the police don’t listen 💔
I really wish they'd teach more on the signs of abuse, not just what abuse is. Abuse doesn't usually just start up right away. It starts with manipulation, I wish schools would explain that more. I feel like it would reduce the number of cases like this, and it broke my heart to know that this isn't as uncommon as it should be.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Horrible situation!
This is the most evil man on the planet
A great point. The police and the courts of all nations of this world need to be trained better on how to protect domestic violence victims. The police and the courts failed this poor woman and her child.
Hi Eleanor, as a Bosnian myself I wanted to thank you for covering this case.
We feared that Nizama's name will be forgotten but because of your big community and worldwide viewers everyone will now know about Nizama. After Nizama's death, things took dark turn. Every month we have another femicide case since our police department does nothing to protect victims of domestic abuse, nor women in general .
Few months ago, in Tuzla, town near Gradačac, a police officer shot and killed a woman in her own coffee shop just because she told him they were closing. She was a mother, a sister, an aunt and beloved woman in community. Her name is Amra Kahrimanović, and she should not be forgotten either.
What makes me so sad that instead of protecting women in our country they are now exposed to more violence. We want justice for Nizamq, Amra and every victim but sadly due to lack of empathy in police department, we do not know if we will ever get it. But you made me so happy with this video, because now I am sure that Nizama will never be forgotten.
So many Bosnian in the comments. I was shocked when I saw Eleanor's video, I couldn't watch it through, somehow feels toooo personal.
Wow, I never knew any of this information before this video. I’m so sorry women are experiencing that in your country.
As a fellow from the Balkans from Macedonia, I am devastated to hear this. The situation is similar in Macedonia and it’s just terrifying to be a woman these days.
We won't forget. Such a tragedy can't be forgotten. 😢😢
I am so sorry...
I am from Kazakhstan and there’s a big case of domestic ab*se in trial now. Former minister of economy k*lled his wife in a restaurant and pleads not guilty. Thinking of all the victims of these horrific men, I hope karma gets them.
I was reading about this the other day, so extremely heartbreaking! I have to admit that it does give me some hope about his sentencing that the judge is a woman, I truly wish that mistake of a human that Bashimbaev is serves a maximum sentence and then some for what he did!
Boosting it❤
Heartbreaking
@@mariannastefanova7697 that woman judge is the biggest disappointment. She seems to be bought by the murderer.
@@zunny16 a 100%
femicide and abuse against women in the balkan region is not taken seriously at all, it's heartbreaking.
i remember seeing the clips of the livestream being spread on social media and just seeing so many people,mostly teen boys,joking about the situation. truly sick. this could've been prevented if the police actually did their job. just a month ago there was another case of femicide in bosnia, a cop shot his girlfriend in broad daylight and it took hours to arrest him. if the law won't protect women then who will?
these cases sparked some protests so hopefully something might change.
it's important to share these stories and to remember these women.
thank you for covering this case.
Really?
Same for central Asia. We demand justice for Saltanat! 🇰🇿
not even much here in the UK. they did nothing to protect me from my ex. I had to go the civil route for a restraining order instead. I feel so awful for this lady
In this case what could the police have done? It's hard to understand, but the police can't arrest someone just because someone else accused them of something. It's very hard to prove threats and stalking, and honestly Even if she has a restraining order what would that have done? Believe me murder is a much bigger crime than violating terms of a restraining order, if he was willing to murder her and broadcast it to the world, nothing the cops could legally do would stop him
@@mktrilldude what? she asked them to escort her because she felt unsafe and they basically told her to fuck off. that’s what they should’ve done. was make her feel protected as listened to her despite not being able to do anything to her ex they could’ve made her feel safe but they chose not to. that’s what they should’ve done.
yeah, I'm not from Bosnia, but from a neighbouring country. what has been happening on the Balkans recently is just terrifying. the school shooting in Belgrade, then the mass shootings in Mladenovac and Smederevo, then this... also, Vanja Gorcevska in North Macedonia, now the little girl, Danka's case from Banjsko Polje... to say that I am horrified is an understatement.
Rip mala danka 💔🙏🏼
The case IS VERY SIMILAR
Please we need your help.🇰🇿
We need to bring worldwide attention to the case of Saltanat. Her soon to be ex husband ( ex minister of economics of Kazakhstan) killed her. He asked her to have a dinner with him in his own restaurant.
There he proceeded to beat her for 10 hours. She died of her injuries. Then he sat down to have a meal next to her dead body.
Later on he tried to delete CCTV footage of the murder, but was unsuccessful.
The trial is still going, but it feels like he might get away with it.
A lot of people are willing to help with translation from Russian and Kazakh. We will help with the research. We just need attention!
Liking this comment to hopefully boost it so she sees, this is horrific and I hope she gets justice!!!
@@poisonprince5064thank you❤
Boosting this comment
@@teagannovak3120 thank you❤
I’m from Bosnia, and the city where this all happened is an hour away from me. Our country is pretty small, and this all shocked everyone. I cannot begin to explain how much damage this has left, and the fact is after everything happened in our country there are still people who are saying he’s maybe right, because she probably cheated on him, or she did something to him and those people are mostly men. I think that explains a little bit mentality that our people especially men have here. When she called police and reported him, a female police officer actually told Nermin because she was his friend, and possibly thats why he got mad. A fucking female officer for gods sake. Abuses sre still happening, just a few months ago a man killed his wife because she wanted to divorce him. I’m lucky I grew up in such a community where in my 20 years of life I’ve never met someone who thinks like that but men like that are out there in Bosnia believe me. A few days ago, a man killed a waitress because she told him they were closing, and he is A POLICE OFFICER! Yes a police officer, and nothing was done about that. Also one note; yes Nermin maybe did experience war, and yes it was hard for him as a child, but so did millions of other Bosnian people, such as my father, my uncles, my grandpa, other people families and still they managed to cope with that. He’s pure evil, and I hope he never rests in peace.
Exactly! Well said.
I remember when the case was first reported in our trash media, there were men saying she probably deserved it (with their full first and last name visible to everyone on Facebook) with zero shame, some of them even using laughing emojis. Absolutely disgusting.
And I also believe that our media/tabloids is the reason 'allegedly' had to be used so much in this case. Every single speculation and rumor was presented as a scandalous news title. They covered this as if it was gossip and not a nation wide TRAGEDY.
@@delibasiccfwhat is funny about this ? absolutely nothing . this is vile
Sjećam se ovoga, užasno. U Hrvatskoj se isto dosta spominjalo
Užasno. Stvarno. Ja rijeci još nemam.
This is actually so sad. I forgot that there are some places in the world that still have such a widespread mentality of male dominance and basically promoting domestic violence
I can actually say something positive, yall didnt find this....but NOBODY CLAIMED HIS BODY, not his friends, nor his family, they said they didnt want anything with him. Good
Thank you for sharing. It makes it slightly better.
Thank you for sharing this. 😭
But since he has incredible connections to the police, he could have also disappeared and not be dead. I'm from the country mislim da si i ti, and that's one of the theories.
@@batshebaeverdene1158 ja sam iz Hrvatske, ali brate kao da sam živjela u Bosni nekih par tjedana oko tog slučaja. He ain't got that strong of connections, cause some of the cops he was cool with were questioned in Croatia actually....
@@mihaelajukic1314 ne znam, moguće. Ali koliko znam bilo je priča takvih još da ima veze sa nekim pedofilskim krugom i to da je ubio prije je navodno istina. A ko će znati, sve je umrlo nažalost sa njima sad.
this poor woman did everything right and still lost her life. I wish nothing but a happy life for her baby and i hope she can rest peacefully
Poor woman and poor her baby 😔
I think that all the people that had a hand in rejecting her restraining order should be fired from their jobs and forbidden from doing that job ever again so they can't hurt anyone by willfully neglecting their duties
I agree with this!!
I agree. And the man had told a similar story about Kyriaki Griva who was 27 abused went to the police station to request a restraining order... Seen her bf outside slowly watching driving back and fourth , so she ran back inside the police station and let them know asking for assistance getting to her car or home. They told her no the police station isn't a taxi service. Kyriaki Griva was murdered that day by her bf Infront of the very police station
The judge that rejected the restraining order was actually a woman who he trained in the gym, they were friends. Also a female police officer who was sleeping with him told him that Nizama reported him and they were never punished.
Exactly! NOBODY is thinking “hmm maybe I should get a restraining order against them, just for funzeys”
Ppl who need them… NEED THEM
Definitely!!!!
As someone who is from Bosnia, I can say I’m really glad that someone who’s got this huge audience is covering this case from our small country and sharing this story that shocked everyone there!
"I've got tears in my eyes, I've got a tummy ache" really sums up this awful case.
It really does.
Kids Under 3 actually see their mums as an extension of themselves I can’t imagine
Ooo.....that makes so much sense
Hearing that poor child witness all of this broke my heart
this broke my heart even more
That actually stops at around 6-9 months.. not 3.
@@mf1649 not always kids go through stages and depends a lot on how and where you grow up and the environments
Ellie has covered so many cases and to watch her cry and her voice crack talking about that little girl and her having to watch her mother be in so much pain just absolutely kills me
Ok
@@MsFated 💀
@@Doggcereal aint funny
@@MsFatedwhat’s your point with this comment
As a person from Balkans, thank you for talking about femicide in our countries. Its a huge issue here, yet misogyny is getting worse day by day, and our governments do nothing.
Why is misogyny getting worse?
@InternetIsWild so gross
@InternetIsWildit’s gross to treat women like sh*T.
I'm from Croatia myself and it's truly awful.. I can't wait til I can move out of here. Misogyny, racism, homophobia and transphobia is so normalized and our people are so uncultured its sad.
@@LyliJi have no idea. it’s getting horrible. male influencers and manosphere content is definitely a cause
As a Bosnian I'm so glad you covered this case! So much homicide happend after this one, almost every month happend that husband kills his wife.. and government is still doing nothing. Thank you for sharing this and spreading awareness.
it irritates me that police don’t do anything when that’s their whole job, I wish we could actually do something about it but there’s a lot of corruption going on in governments
There were some rumors that his mistress was working in police and she gave him Nizama's location and we cannot expect them to help us
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@@aidahasanovic9484omg this is horrible and should be jailed also
I am just horrified. I'm so sorry to all the women there. I've been a victim of DV and feel lucky to have my life. It's so scary
i don’t think her mind will remember, but the body never forgets that kind of trauma. Lots of kids who were removed from traumatic living situations before the age of 2 still have longstanding behavioral issues because of events they don’t consciously remember. I hope she’s okay.
The fact she would hear this story one day and might even see the leaked videos of the murder 💔💔
It goes actually way deeper... if he was abusing her while pregnant the baby suffers unusual amounts of stress cortisone and doesn't develop the same brain as a child who didn't endure this.
Even kids who are adopted at birth still suffer from what happend before birth
Its just not spoken enough about
there is something called pre-verbal trauma, which is a kind of trauma that happens to someone before they have fully developed speech. so yes, sadly this will very likely stay with her
She’ll remember. I remember the worse trauma I went through starting at age 3. Everyone thinks I don’t but I do. Trauma stains your brain unfortunately. That poor girl
I’ve no idea why I freak out when I’m in the shower I just do, that took me so much more effort to work through than like some of the trauma I do remember. It’s so helpful to talk about things but I don’t know what happened with that… I hope she does remember it’s harder at first but easier in the long run in my opinion.
Hearing that this poor little baby had to not only WITNESS this, and to was screaming for her poor mother, then he showed her reaction.. and abandoned her with her lifeless mom.. i cannot stop crying. This is such a terrible story… my heart broke in a million pieces for Nizama and her precious baby..
I've never seen Eleanor so emotional in a true crime case ever.
I was just telling my bf this same thing. This was fuckin rough.
I agree but fuck me she didn’t half curse a lot 😉🤦🏼♂️🤣.
@@connagh11This isn't funny.😠
Aw, I'm just starting watching this. If she cries, I'm gonna cry!
@@connagh11how sick are you to be joking like this under such a video.
As someone who has family and friends in the Balkans, specifically Bosnia and Croatia, misogyny and familial abuse specifically towards women is SO common. It’s actually horrifying.
Misogyny is very common, even in day to day life. The authorities have been letting down women AND children for decades.
And sadly steroids/ - any other type of drugs are very accessible in the Balkans. So many children get into crime and drugs in their teens.
Its not safe country, police is corrupt as well a whole system!
Murders happen every single day, sad and scary!
I’m from Croatia and this shook me to the core! Thank you for covering our neighbours story!
I ja sam iz Hr, gledala video, jako uznemirujuc, zena je bila neprepoznatljiva, da ne pricam kakve psihicke posljedice ce imat to dijete
@@berchyzgb4423 nisam gledala video. Prestrašno je sve skupa. Nadam se da bude dijete ok. 😞
Ja sam iz BiH, ovo je daleko najgori slucaj za koji sam ikada cula. Nazalost sam I video pregledala, nisam znala sta gledam. Strasno
@@LeeMaliboo treba postrožiti kazne, pa bi dva puta razmislili. A ne ovako. Ista stvar i kod nas. Svašta puštaju van nakon par mjeseci.
Takodje, ovo ke toliko bilo potresno i ovo je bio samo jos jedan dokaz kako nasa policija ne radi svoj posao...
This poor woman did everything right, she tried so hard to keep this man away from her and she still lost her life...the police need to be held accountable
even in my own experience the police did so little to help me when I was dealing with this... and I'm in the UK where the police are always talking about ending DV and telling victims to come forward but they don't actually do anything and just endanger you more. this is a worldwide issue. Definately need to keep talking about it and make sure people are aware of this
Never gonna happen in the Balkans.
I swear men need help, men are so mean now, so evil, so entitled, no wonder South Korea as an entire movement to stop talking and dating men .
I am Bosnian and I have been watching you Eleanor for years now… and it is horrible realization to see case from my country in true crime… it is the first time I saw someone cover Bosnian case, so i always kept thinking how grateful I am that things we see in true crime don’t happen here… but this is as gruesome as it gets.. such a sad story
*Women threw themselves under him. He had a side chick named Dzenana, she was a police officer, allegedly, she told him where Nizama was hiding because only police knew. I watched that live broadcast, almost saw the whole thing... He was a know criminal and drug(s) abuser since 2013. Nizama was hiding in her aunts house so when he came to search for her he fired shots at her brother too, they were trying to prevent him from taking her.*
*Actually, Denis and Dzengis weren’t his random victims, ALLEGEDLY he owed them money, that’s why he called them enemies.*
So basically she is a snitch!😠
@@monikathesavagebear9149 *Allegedly, yes. They found messages in his phone proving they were in some kind of intimate relationship.*
Who is a snitch?
@@ummnothanks...666 *His police officer alleged side chick*
How do u know this?
A Bosnian here, how you pronounced Gradacac was very impressive, everything else was also good, but I didn't expect a foreigner to pronounce that word so clean!
Also Bosnian and I was shook too 🤣 very impressive indeed!
A restraining order is useless against this type of person. It would have only given her a false sense of security. Just like gun-free zones and sex offender lists. They may make you feel good, but they never stop someone with pure intent.
what would you recommend? genuine question.
True
@@massivelhonestly she had plans to leave the country and go to Germany to her father but he took that away from her
Very true. I have had a restraining order on my ex boyfriend for two years now, and he broke it 7 times, the police did nothing about it. He still tries getting in contact with me.
Yes and no. They aren’t what would be most beneficial. However in some situations they are because then the contact/stalking is a chargeable offense that puts them in jail long enough for the victim to get their things and leave far away
Thank you Eleanor for covering a history from Balkan nations. We love you !
There's a special place in hell for this twisted sick vile human . Domestic abuse is pushed under the rug far too much in this day and age . Absolutely heartbreaking
Nah hell is to rewarding for him no matter what special place he goes to
Thank you for this video. I live in Bosnia and it happened near me. The whole country was in shock and still is, it was the first time that something like that happened publicly. Unfortunately, after that public broadcast of the murder, at least 10 more happened in the same way - for the sake of popularity.. We live in a terrible world :(
I’m a survivor of an abusive relationship myself. I was stabbed in my left breast with a screwdriver all because someone was upset that they couldn’t manipulate me anymore. It’s been 11 years.
Wow ❤ 😢
I'm so sorry that happened to you; I hope both your physical and mental recovery has been as smooth as possible ♥️ and I'm so happy you're out of that situation
@@JadenAkritasthank you for the concern 💜 since I left that relationship, my life got so much better! I went to counseling and everything after it and it really helped me heal a lot
I too am a survivor and they are at their most dangerous when they can’t manipulate you or even any children you had with them. People think once you leave the abuse just stops. As we both know it’s when they will ramp up their endeavours to hurt you. Sending a hug from one survivor to another
@@reyah8934 of course! ♥️ It makes me happy to hear your life has changed for the better and that you found the happiness you deserve!! Keep living your best life and show that jackass that he didn't take away your joy and happiness 😌♥️
That last picture of her baby girl's foot in the crib had me sobbing so hard, he's pure evil and she deserved to live a happy life with her daughter and he took that away for both of them... Those who denied her restraining order should not be in their positions and I hope she's haunting them for ever.
I can’t stop crying 😭
I worry significantly for the child, exposure to abuse, witnessing death, being put in the care system… the list of risk factors is immense, and if we know anything about criminality, this is how it all starts 😢 I hope that poor little girl gets the help and support she needs asap and throughout her entire childhood + extended life ❤
i’m so terrified for her.
She's not going to be put in the system luckily. She has a lot of immediate family.
She’s not in the system, the sister of the deceased (her Aunt) is taking care of the little girl….Ellie confirmed it at the end of this episode.
She’s not in the system, the sister of the deceased (her Aunt) is taking care of the little girl….Ellie confirmed it at the end of this episode.
This case is sickening. If only he was able to be actually punished for this horrible crime.
Im a bosnian and i live quite close to where this happened. I remember us all being really traumatized because we saw the live…. and we were all so soo horrified and scared because our police is uncapable of protecting is from people like him.
Also you forgot a very important factor in this case. On the day of the murder, Nazama was running away and hiding from him, earlier she contacted police and they did nothing. he found her and dragged her to this cottage house in the middle of the woods and murdered her .BUT, police didnt do anything, because Neemin had a lover, a mistress at the police station, she worked there and therefore they didnt do anything because she said not to. Police could also stop the murder, because they were looking at the live and knew where it was, but they didnt. They waited for Neemin to “finish his business”. Its sad and disappointing and disgusting. Bosnian police is corrupted and absolutely sick.
Becof Bosnian police and general politics, thousands of people every day leave the country due the corruption and everything similar.
Omg...I read it somewhere that Nazima was hiding at her aunt's place. Is it true?
They should all face consequences. Neemin especially. How do you let this happen knowing where it is. Its sick. Should still be an eye for an eye and maybe people would knock it off.
@@Elina-- Yes, she was hiding in her aunt's house, and only the police knew that. It's said his side chick police officer gave the information away and therefore he found her, dragged her out of the house and to the cottage where he killed her
Yes and Lena was 9 months old not 2 or 3.
@@Elina--yes, he shot at her family members and they couldn't protect her. She sacrificed herself by getting into the car with him to protect them from the bullets.
Thank you for talking about femicide in the Balkan region. Many cases go unnoticed and our governments don't care. I'm from a neighbouring country and this tragedy truly shocked me to the core. Since this murder I feel like it keeps getting worse and worse. It feels like this was an "invitation" to other men to do the same. Same as the mass shooting in Serbia. Since that more and more cases appear and they are not even known because it keeps getting covered up!!!
** UPDATE ** I had to take a break, walk my dog & ground myself before watching more after the video description. This one was hard to swallow. Thank you for giving her a voice again, Eleanor!
I usually shut my emotions off with true crime but it was impossible with this case. My heart is shattered. That poor baby and mama. This will keep my thoughts running tonight. I hate that monster that did that to them
no fr, ive been researching cases for years and this is the first in a WHILE where ive had to pause/rewind to process what im hearing, its so gutturally painful :(
(look after urself
@@heymeemowyes i just updated this comment about how i had to take a lil break from the video and ground myself. My hearts still broken. I hope that sweet baby is getting the therapy and love she so deserves
I haven’t balled my eyes out in a long time over a true crime case. That poor poor baby. As a mother I’m distraught over it
I cannot believe Eleanor is covering a case from my country. Truly a heartbreaking case that shook the nation but unfortunately nothing much has been done after to stop other sickos from doing it to someone else
Na zalost, jedan od mnogih slucajeva femicida na Balkanu. Koliko ih je samo jos bilo posle ovoga, a desilo se prije manje od godinu dana...
There is a case in Russia, when husband cut off his wife’s hands and brought her at hospital himself. The police was able to find the body parts (hands) in the forest where the case was taken place. Fortunately, the girl survived and doctors even saved one of her hands. Her name is Margarita Grachyova and she’s such a strong woman. There’s a TV show based on this case
It always makes me mad when the victim’s families can never get justice. I hope they can somehow find peace.
why didnt they try and save her tho? they just sat and watched it
@@IbieB How do you know how they reacted? And what were they gonna do? Teleport through the screen? You freeze up even when in front of a scene like this, let alone a screen away, where it's harder to even process what's going on.
And even when the news got to them of the livestream they wouldn't have had enough time to get there, she was already beaten up and dying on the floor before it even begun and the gunshot was fired quickly.
It's not a victims fault nor their family's, even more in this case considering Nizama had contacted the police a lot of times before trying to get that disgusting man away from her
@@IbieBthis is why we can't get anywhere with dumb questions like this.
He didn't realize what he suddenly did like he had a crisis of conscience. He did it because he was a coward who couldn't face up to the consequences of his horrific crimes
I don't often comment on these videos but I am absolutely repulsed by this and my heart absolutely shatters for Nizama and her child.
"This is honestly one of the worst that kept me up at night." As someone who has watched you for years, I totally agree. Usually, true crime horrifies me, but this one absolutely broke me. That poor baby. I don't know her, but I want to fight for her somehow
I saw the video of it and it was incredibly upsetting. Her face so unrecognisable from the beatings and her baby daugher a few feet away crying on the floor as her mum slipped away. 😢
I have also seen the video and it was truly sad, then to see that babygirl crying out as her mother is dying is so tragic and heartbreaking 🥺
i remember watching it and seeing the defeat on her face that she had just accepted what was going to happen completely shattered me. i remember crying for days after
It’s so eerie too seeing as it was such a beautiful day, landscape. People cutting grass, playing outside. And there’s a home where this is happening. Absolutely devastating. 😢There was also so much blood in the car and the floor of the house. I can’t even imagine what that poor woman went through. 😞
She was shocked that he pulled the trigger, immediately she gasp(mouth open) in complete disbelief, in those milliseconds 😢
Omg I can’t believe you covered this case. I am from Croatia, my mother from Bosnia and I was following this guy. I saw that live video.. it’s so sad how this turned out and my heart goes out to every victim of any type of abuse. Truly heartbreaking
It's so disgusting! The courts didn't sign her restraining order. They signed her death warrant instead
The fact that that video is still out there is disturbing on so many levels. I haven’t finished this video but due to the gravity of the situation and his crime I firmly believe that he should have gotten the death penalty. That man was gloatingly about his crimes, so much so that he filmed everything live on Instagram. I pray her child never comes across the footage/photos, and that she finds comfort in knowing her mother tried everything she could to save both of them. I hope Mum Nizama is resting in peace, protecting her baby from above.
reminds me of the bianca devins case. the internet does not protect victims.
greetings, I'm from the city where this murder happened. I will never be able to forget that day and the pain that we as citizens of this city felt. Thank you for protecting our Nizam from oblivion
You all worked so hard on this one I'm gonna try to hang in here for the whole case. I'm only 20 minutes in & it's so much like my ex husband it's triggering. But I'm a firm believer in we can't want people to hear us & believe our truths of DV if we don't extend the same courtesy to others who have been there. Especially if they didn't make it out. We owe it to them to pick up the torch & keep shedding light on what was done to them.
Thank you @Elanor & team for sharing these stories like hers that don't get the coverage they deserve.
Thank YOU for staying so incredibly strong and helping this case get heard. Raising awareness, helping others that are suffering or have been suffering 💜
You are so important!
In so many of these videos, the murderer try so hard to leave no evidence behind, to leave the scene with no indication that they had ever been there in the first place. I think what makes this case so much more harrowing is that he had an audience; he had made that concious decision to go live and have someone there to witness his actions. It was all so intentional.
but then again, he was an influencer. A curated version of his life was always under surveillance, so why ruin that image? It's really strange how someone who's intention is to kill or hurt would broadcast that, especially when he had been an influencer. Usually influencers would strive to keep that image of themselves up.
I agree. It’s the ones who so blatantly and clearly don’t give two shits about what they’ve done or that they’re obviously going to get caught. It’s like a “well if I’m going out, I’m going out with a bang” type of thing- which, most times, is way more intentionally destructive to others/those involved than just a normal crime where the person tries to get it done then get out of there as swiftly and quietly as possible. The person obviously doesn’t care about their own life and the other’s lives involved, so they’re going to make it a big show and turn their violence/actions up to 11 and “go down fighting.” So harrowing…
You're so right. Ofc Eleanore has covered cases like this one before where the killer has intentionally made it so there are witnesses, and I understand that it's like an attention thing. He knew he would be caught simply because of the brutality of his actions, and a lot of hate and intention goes into beating someone half, if not, to death. Sometimes influencers like to shield their views and fans from their personal life because they enjoy the image they have made for themselves, like the whole Wilbur thing (ew), but I really can't get my head around him streaming it. I can understand that he wanted to go out with a bang (again, ew) but I can't understand, understand it. In some weird way, not completely understanding gives me a bit of comfort, because understanding completely, in every way, makes the killer relatable, and GOD FORBID anyone EVER relates to someone so fucking evil.
That's 12 thousand sick people that would even watch it happen. That poor baby girl made to witness this horrible scene. Prayers for her and her mother and family. The police need to be fired.
A lot of people didn't have any idea what is the live about and when they saw it they had to ask help in the hospital. The problem is that the video was available on Instagram for hours. How was that possible?
I truly want nothing more than to just give that poor little child the biggest hug. I really really hope she’s doing okay. Not many things can make me cry the way I did the second I heard that the poor little girl was there the whole time, and it just kept getting worse. My heart goes out to the family and everyone else affected.
Social media really does bring out the worst of humanity in all sorts of ways
Honestly I think it just allows us to see the worst in humanity. People have always been this awful and depraved. Now they can just post pictures and videos of their depravity.
Truth!
he wouldve killed her without it. the fact it exists just means we can unfortunately see it as well.
@Boing2699 This... people act like these men weren't getting away with this since the beginning of history. It's sickening
this case is not about social media.. he’s a cruel, violent m@le and always has been.
Eleanor thank you so much for covering this case, femicide is really common in our country and you covering this case is really valuable for our country, more people need to know Nizamas name, may she rest in peace.
Imagine getting into a relationship only to brutally murder your partner live, some people are heartless
“People”? Or men because it’s nearly always MEN doing this. Not just “people”
I've binge watched all your videos and never cried, but as a mother, this one made me tear up. That poor child.
Me too! I just can’t even fathom the thought process to hurt a child or expose them to such evil. It broke my heart!
Same. As a mother this one had me balling. I can’t even imagine the horror that mother endured knowing her baby was present. Afraid he may kill her too I’m sure.
When I say I saw the live video I wasn’t able to sleep for days, it still plays on my mind regularly and is most possibly the most upsetting messed up thing I’ve ever known!
can you do case about little girl that went missing also in Bosnia. There is documentary called “ Gdje je Sara? “ which means where is Sara. Anyway that is a case from 2018 and investigation just started bc this is first time for people hearing this story after that documentary that was posted this month I think. This is first time for case being online so you can do updates by posting it in english which could help finding Sara 💗
Commenting to hopefully bring light to it
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i'm from slovenia and i've seen this video being shared everywhere at the time it was happening.. i never knew the background story to this case so thank you so much for covering it. i still think about her almost every week..
A fellow Slovenian - this is so rare in the TH-cam universe! ☺️ I was born and raised in Switzerland and my mom is Slovenian😊 I've never heard of this case...it's so heartbreaking! And then I thoughz: Why...just why... No war and trauma justifies this atrocity...😢😢😢
@@mirjanazadravechi!! when the video was broadcasted i was working my shift at a restaurant and all of my customers were sharing the video, showing it to eachother. i will NEVER forget her face and that poor little baby's cries. as a fellow slovenian you must know how toxic some balkan cultures are and how our little boys are raised to be these arrogant and entitled monsters.. it sadness me for our beautiful countries, we deserve better, our women deserve better and our sons should be RAISED better. domestic violence is so common and accepted in our parts.. it breaks my heart..
AND ALSO, the bosnian government?? doesnt care. they never have. domestic violence is SO normalised over here it's sick. women are viewed as less and always have. there NEED TO BE CHANGES!!! i dont want my son growing up thinking THIS is normal. or just stumbling upon a video like this because I havent done my job as a parent and kept him away from this!! but this is a systematic issue!! and thank you.. thank you eleanor for talking about this. you are the only person that HAS SPOKEN ABOUT THIS!!
13:36 literally rewound your surprise feeling myself moment bc it was so adorable. Thanks for letting your personality break the tension sometimes when we are hearing about such awful events.
11:25 The "3rd bicep" took me outttt 😂😂😂
Sammmeee 😂
@@chelseathomas7965 she's hilarious lol
You got through this story stronger than I could have. I’ll be thinking about that little girl for a while. I hope she is being loved and well taken care of.
A woman who I went to school with was murdered by a man she rejected that she worked with. He had former reports made against him by other women who even moved away from where they were living because he was stalking them. He killed Gracie Spinks when she was with her horse one morning and then he killed himself. Police were contacted by Gracie multiple times and a bag of weapons was found in a field near where she was murdered not long before the murder happened and it was reported to the police but they did nothing. There’s a whole enquiry going on about stalking in the UK and the family are doing amazing things to try to get a law passed for stalking. I think raising awareness of this is really important. The whole community has been affected by it and it could’ve been avoided if the police had helped or cared enough.
This broke my heart, I adore hearing of cases from Balkan regions (rarely see some cover it) but as a fellow Bosnian, id never known of this case, that poor woman.. Allah be with her😔😔💔
Thank you for covering this case! I’m from Croatia and this case shook the whole Balkan region to the core. Unfortunately the baby daughter was 9 months old at the time of the murder…
This could be one of the worst cases I’ve ever listened to. The daughter will be carrying one of the most horrific traumas imaginable, I don’t know how anyone could do that to their child and for her to be left with her mum, confused and likely trying to wake her up, that breaks my heart for this girl
I am from Croatia (Bosnian by mom and dad) and I wanna thank you for a great video you made about the case! Thank you one million times!❤ I love your work!
Excellent work , Eleanor.
This is absolutely horrific.
My sympathies to Nizama’s family. I hope her precious daughter can grow up happy and healthy. May Nizama rest in peace.
i was born in Gradačac and grew up in Šamac and violence against women is never taken really serious. It’s very traditional there when it comes to gender roles so women aren’t really seen, like at all, there just expected to sit and abide by their husband no matter what they do. it’s really sad but i’m really happy you covered this case!! thank you!
I watched the live video and it has left an emotional scar in me. I haven't recovered from it yet. totally regret watching it.
same. an old friend sent it to me being like 'omg wtf is this' and i froze, i wish i would've clicked away when i realised what she sent. ended our friendship right then and there of course. absolutely disgusting.
I've seen it as well and I'm still paranoid from it
horrible.. i just can’t even imagine what the sweet baby girl felt. people who share this video are evil
Please cover the Gitchie Manitou murders!!!!!! 5 kids go camping 4 end up dead with the murders dropping off the 5th one at their home!
what case is this?
@@EmmaRoriano en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Gitchie_Manitou_murders
This case I want to know more about
The survivors guilts must be real for that last kid
@@SobrietyandSolace there is a book about the case cuz they brothers who did this escaped … it’s a really messed up case
Nermin thought the police were his enemies but apparently they were his biggest fans bc they sure didn’t do anything to keep him away from his ex wife.
This case is so heart breaking I’ve literally watched like every single of ur vids since 2019 and I usually eat dinner or I’m cleaning while watching but omg I had to stop watching while eating it’s so heartbreaking I can’t imagine the trauma that poor girl is going to struggle with mentally as she gets older and understands more. Poor child my heart goes out to her and her family 😢 x
i love how you include stories that had little to no publicity
this is one of the few true crime cases that i just couldn't get through. eleanor you presented this so beautifully and with the perfect gentle touch, but stuff like this is so difficult to hear about without wanting to throw up. that poor baby, i genuinely cannot even imagine what that must have been like for her.
This is just so sad. This could all be stopped if the police had just done something to help. Absolutely devastating.
Thank you so much for covering this case! 🙏🏻 Some of my family members living in Bosnia have actually watched that live stream and had to prevent others from watching it because it was so traumatizing. This case shook the whole nation to the core.
i've seen something similar to this on twitter, it was taken from a twitch stream where he locked his partner out on the balcony and i think she froze to death, they bought her back in on the stream.. its miserable. women deserve better.
This case is heartbreaking and unfortunately parts of the live stream were going around Twitter last year. I saw the video and it was horrifying. I hope her daughter never stumbles across it 💔 Truly terrible she asked for help and was denied
Please consider covering the case of Eloá, from Brazil. It's similar to this one, plus the fact that Eloá was hold captive for DAYS while the hole midia made a show of her death. It happened in 2008, and as a Brazilian I wish more people knew about her.
Stephanie Soo (Mango Butt) did a cover of that story. Ofc Eleanor can too, I'd just like you to know it's being covered, so maybe that can lighten some weight. Much love from Scotland
Have been watching you since 2018, this is the first case that made me bawl. Thank you for sharing awareness to this case Eleanor
this case is disgusting, I cannot understand how people think they have the right to kill someone else.
Eleanor when you teared up it made me also tear up. I thank you for your compassion and the way you continue to present your cases and videos, giving the victims the attention and respect they deserve.
it just makes me sick to my stomach to know that there are probably so many other horrible and sick people out there murdering/abusing etc. other victims and we have no idea…😭
as someone who was sexually and physically abused by a male figure at that age, and had it last until i was about 18. this makes me so. dizzy. its sort of ineffable the kind of ache i feel for that little girl. tears leave my eyes despite no warning of even crying. i weep for her. i weep for her innocence.
this is one of, if not THE the most harrowing case ive heard of, i cant believe it happened LAST YEAR. completely unavoidable, that poor girl like ohmygod :((
I'm from Bosnia, and my mother was in the town when this happened. It really shook the whole country. Thank you for uploading this video ❤
Thank you, Eleanor, for covering case from my country. I’m so used watching your videos, but it’s so weird knowing everything about the case before I even watched it. And because I’m so used watching true crime videos, I’m never shocked when some murder happens, but when this happened… I don’t know how to describe how was I feeling. Maybe it’s because I watched that IG live, because I saw how did she looked like… I don’t know, but I remember I was upset for months. Even today, when I see a girl similar to her on the street, I always think of her and her last moments. So, so sad.
thanks for covering this case and showing sorrow, empathy, and humanity in a respectful way. I think a cool freaky friday topic you should do would be anesthesia awareness. love you ellie!
Eleanor, this was a tough one. I am hoping that this little girl is receiving the help she needs and is surrounded by love and care. As hard as it was, I am glad you covered this case as awareness of domestic violence is important and that we need to hold not only the perpetrators accountable but those in the justice system who act ineffectually and with disregard.
Please look after yourself and also to your team as this must have been difficult to compile and present. Sending warm wishes from Australia 🇦🇺
Hi Eleanor, I’ve watched your videos since you started true crime. I wanted to Thankyou so much for covering this tragic case. I am croatian and this case was such a big story when it initially happened, through reading some of these comments and even personal experiences - in the balkans the police and generally useless especially when it comes to DV. It is absolutely true that the thinking is somewhat backwards when it comes to men vs women and this tragic story breaks my heart and brings me to tears each time I hear it. Please cover more stories in the balkans, they’re only ever spoken about within those select countries and stories like the baby Danka who was recently found in Banjsko Polje need to be covered on more widespread media.
This breaks my heart I'm crying for that baby girl and mum 😢😢😢 poor baby
The police seriously need to do better. So many deaths could have been prevented if they had done their job correctly.
We're in the balkan countries... Police and courts so often don't do their jobs correctly so this and loads of horrible cases happen very often.
The police here is horrible. 3-4 months ago in Tuzla (near Gradačac) was a case where policeman shot a women (with service pistol) because he had psychotic problems and was NEVER at mental examination which is crucial for that thype of work. So, we sucked.
As most people are who regularly listen to true crime, I'm quite desensitized to the violence, however hearing about that poor little girl.. Its been years since i've cried listening to a true crime case. I wish her the absolute best. Thank you for sharing this story, Eleanore, it's such an important thing to be talked about despite its harrowing elements.
This story breaks my heart I’m glad you’re doing more lesser known cases
He was evil, he took his own life because he was a coward.
It was speculated that police killed him, because he was armed and in the car. They didn't want to risk more casualties, allegedly. It was all speculation in the media
He took her life because he was a coward.
Oh man. I’ve listened to a lot of your videos, and this is one of the very few that really got me. I have a 1.5 year old, and imagining something like this happening to an equally innocent, precious baby just kills me. That man is a monster, I’m glad he took himself out of the world
Oh Eleanor you beautiful soul, that was a difficult one. So extremely sad 😢 you did so well pulling it all together, what a professional strong women you are. Much love x
Love the love you’re giving your research team. I think we forget all the ppl behind the scenes ❤
I'm from the Balkans but live in the UK and want to provide some context. Coming from a stable less corrupt country, I can see why you would assume that the police were just stupid or overwhelmed with other work and ignoring a serious issue but in the Balkans this is almost never the case. The police know and are complicit in crime - these are small countries with low population densities. Police men in the UK work like crazy, while these guys twiddle their thumbs all day until they get notified of anything. It is therefore an active choice to ignore it, not a mistake. These kinds of people get away with things because our police system is complicit in their crimes for years until it comes impossible for the world to look away from them. Men like this give police bribes for years on end to keep a lid on things or they just have a personal connection on the inside (a relative, a friend, a something on the side). I believe him when he says he's murdered before. It is ironic that his own ego was his downfall.