The Difference Between Playing With Kobe & Jordan
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- UNHEARD Stories From John Salley's Iconic NBA Career as John Salley enters Gil's Arena and tells Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Legendary tales from his career playing with icons like Kobe Bryant & Shaquille O'Neal on the Los Angeles Lakers, winning NBA Championships with Michael Jordan & The Chicago Bulls and dominating the NBA Playoffs on the Bad Boy Detroit Pistons. He chronicles life amongst NBA Royalty in the 1990's and explains the difference between playing with Kobe & MJ.
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The 70s-90s players, those the ones that need to be doing podcasts!!
Exactly!!!
Yeah these modern players podcasts are garbage 😂 they have personalities of cardboard.
@@TheSands83 they are robots lol
70s and early 80s really only got cocaine stories
@@JRHInvestments cocaine stories are fun
Gimme John Salley and Kevin Garnett telling stories all night and I'm hooked.
Iman Shumpert is damn entertaining too
@@41bengaldon’t forget Magic. He’s a great storyteller too. I can only imagine how many stories he has from the Showtime era alone.
DEFINITELY Iman Shumpert😭😭 Vernon Maxwell too
Preach!!
@@HoodaVille_973Vernon looks and sounds like a drunk crackhead.
“Gotta learn how to pace yourself young fella”😂😂😂 i busted out laughing
Pause
@@ThatBoyPause?????
STG 🤣
Facts 😭😭😭
Classic!😅
Today's NBA generation is so documented on social media today that you know basically everything they're doing. When you hear stories from the 70s, 80s and 90s, they're just great to hear.
They were rockstars back then. Now they’re just chaperoned athletes with all these phones out.
@@El...Presidente right they don't mess with all those joints like that anymore either.. Disease, marriage, and losing those sponshorships can be very costly
That hits different. Well said
Facts.
@@rytiski Even with social media, there’s tons of anecdotes, funny stories on the road happening today that we never hear about. It’s evident with many current stars on podcast when they share. (Sorry to break your overused narrative of ‘nothing today can compare to the past’ but it’s not Germane to this example
“Who’s Fucking” straight to the point 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I'll tell u this....3 of my homeBoys 2 retired, 1 married & was/is a great dude, another won 6th man of the year Abt 10 years ago & was well known, & the other is still very active.....The average person WOULDN'T BELIEVE the work that I was getting just Being w them. It's bad, But it's VERY HARD 4 me to believe ALOT of the assault claims from these 304's. I'm 100% sure that it's REAL VICTIMS, But from my own eyes/experience....Abt 3 outta 35. They are with EVERYTHING until they feel EXTRA PLAYED or just washed
@@HoodaVille_973 I believe you!!!
@@HoodaVille_973FACTS
Yeah....THAT PART!!!
Maaaaaaannn 😂😂😂
Plz bring back John Salley anytime I know he has stories for days plus he’s a great storyteller and funny 😂
💯
Agreed
Him being well spoken and a professional comedian is icing on the cake.
@@hagnuj1070 I agree!
And low-key Spider is a good actor as well
this is funniest part about this is this had nothing to do with the Difference Between Kobe & Jordan😅
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO KOBE WAS A SERIAL KILLER.
Difference in influence. He made a statement said one is Tide and one is Tide Evergreen. Same shit slight difference
facts nigga just started rambling
@@BlackMamba-wf9ihstop that 🧢
@@richardjohnson668but one is the original.
This is the type of Gil's Arena that I like. Sadly it will rarely be like this.
Need this vibe more often
its like this in the summer time.. there will be lots of “player x tells stories”
This way better than them talking about the exact same topics as every other podcast
Totally agreed had to step back from Gil for a few weeks because they were basically turning into espn with wild takes, complaining and yelling and fighting about nothing. Same topics every week. Need a topic? Who's the goat and debate that AGAIN for 30 mins to kill time
I feel the same way about Jeff Teague podcast, I can't really sit through the whole thing because half the time they are talking about nothing. I far prefer teagues podcast in shorts since it gets past all the rambling
Out with the old in with the new
Real talk, Salley is super underrated. This man won with Det, Chi, and LAL. That’s from late 80’s to early 2k. Arguably the best time in basketball. Crazy!
There was a time when he would go to a team and they would win the championship. I had a whole notion that he was a lucky charm back in the 90s.
How is he underrated...he was 6'11 and never averaged more than 10pts a game or more than 6 reb per game. Seems like he's a cool guy tho
I don’t think he’s underrated at all, just time goes by and more names join the list so he gets a lil push to the back.
Man this dude was a role player don’t exaggerate
He had very little to do with many of those championships, dude.
This should be a life lesson for companies around the world pay and treat your employees right and they will work like it
to be fair... they only got this treatment after they started winning.... so life lesson for Employees and Companies
This episode with John Salley is my favorite to this date
Yeah he was a great guest.
This just shows how important Jordan was to the league. GOAT STATUS. He put basketball to a whole other level of marketing
Ant will be the Next GOAT.
He just came before Kobe Kobe better
@@diegochavez6203That’s nonsense… it was a totally different level of stardom. Jordan was on an Ali level. A Pele level… Kobe was higher than Lebron ever was but he wasn’t on Mike’s level.
A friend of mine worked at the Reebok club in NYC back in the mid to late 90s. Most of the NBA teams practiced there when they played the Knicks or Nets. My friend told me the Bulls were on a whole other level in how they practiced and carried themselves. It was easy to see why they were champions.
"If I pay I can say" is nasty work dawg
Brutal honesty 😂😂😂
Apparently everything is nasty work 😂
That Robert Parish story is why I laugh when this younger generation belittles the older generation of stars. Those older guys were _built different_ .
Say it again but they think their generation is the best to ever do it. Youngins today don’t give a fuck about history .
@@chiggsytube He's not talking about being professionals. Those dudes epitomized what being a dog is. Their mentalities were much rougher to their core. Those dudes did not gaf. They were less professional and more like cowboys, and they were hard as nails. This newer generation woukd absolutely destroy the older generation in terms skill and athleticism, but the older generation would destroy in terms of grit and resilience. They both have their pros and they both have their cons. That's why a great mix if the two is how you become loved by most fans, ie MJ and Kobe.
@@peacemaker4829 ^This.
@@peacemaker4829well said.
@@cyber6sapien Thank you
The coolest part about this conversation was just seeing Gilbert and the rest of them learn something new from John Salley about how things were back then.
It’s like we’re a fly in the room with them hearing all these stories that normally would be told behind the scenes or not told in front of a camera.
This is dope!
Gil is right about the old nba era having a goldmine of stories. I personally feel like HBO or Showtime should make a series based off those stories.
AGREED.
Kinda like that old series on HBO or Showtime about the Outlaw Country guys when they were on tour or recording. I lived for those lil animation episodes...Had me dying laughing
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Them stories of the 80s and 90s are so underrated and undermining. John a good example of a honest player
DEFINITELY hahaha haha!!!!.
Damn, y'all gotta get John Sally a good business decision invite on your couch panel full time. He can get y'all into untapped NBA gold mine stories from his generation of guests. And he got gift of gab.
“I liked my wife” is crazy work😭😭
The crazy thing is those players were physical as hell and playing 82 games....smoking cigarettes and drinking liquor 🤷🏾♂️
@@chiggsytube your not allowed to touch anymore... Its not an improvement it took pyschality out of the game...Different era different tools needed.. Steph would have broken both ankles in the 90s... Stem cell research
@@chiggsytube The 85-86 Lakers had a 102.1 Pace Factor …
2023-24 - Average NBA team has a 98.5 Pace Factor
85-86 Lakers averaged 117 ppg … they did this with only 409 three point attempts all season.
Average NBA team averaged 114.2 ppg and shot 2880 three pointers in 2023-24.
80s was fast paced... Slowest pace was in the mid to late 90s… 1998-99 even slipped below 90 (88.9 Pace Factor)
@@LawrenceAugust_ Thank you for some Facts!!!
Nobody was smoking cigarettes in the NBA bro
@@gs2162 Cigars
Thank you, Sally, for letting the world know how top tier the Chicago Bulls were in the 90s... Baskerball Royalty the best for thr best
bro said The POPE 😂 Jordan was different
My slow ass didn't know who the Pope was and iam 47 from Chicago
The pope was Phil bro. Mike was Michael Jackson 🤣
Of course he was different. He's Michael fucking Jordan 😂
John Salley and Gil got the same brand of humor, this show was 🔥🔥🔥.
“Watch yaself, It looks good but it don’t feel good”😫🤣🤦🏾♂️😂Rashad wild
That Robert Parish story is gold
Indeed.
“Gotta pace yourself, young fella.”
More vets with cool stories!!! This was dope learning how older players did it
John Salley is a GREAT STORYTELLER 😂😂😂
This is gold man. Preciate y’all having John on 💯 Great story teller and great takes. Should definitely bring him back.
John Salley is that Uncle that has lived the crazy life and has a gift of story telling.
John Salley tearing up reminiscing on them Bulls day! That's how you know how special that time was.
NO. He has had a long-running medical situation that makes him tear up 😅😂😂😂 Ain’t no reminiscing tears going on there! 😂🤦🏽♂️
Man go watch John Salley on vlad TV from 5 years ago. This dude been teary eyed for a damn decade lol
John Salley always tell great stories 😂😂😂😂
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: John Salley (and Rick Fox), has parlayed his non-star playing career into a wonderful retirement better than anyone I've seen.
Just a few weeks ago I had Luther Vandross' Can I Take You Out Tonite on my mind, so imagine my surprise when I glance at the music video and see Salley in it.
It just proved my belief again at that point lol.
Yes, John is been in the media for a long time, well connected but so humble. He's done well for himself post basketball.
Let me go get this man book 😂
WORD
Facts
I started watching the NBA when Isaiah Thomas and the Detroit Pistons were playing for their second championship title in a row …after they won,
all I can remember is that Michael Jordan took over and I’ve been loving basketball ever since❤
These are the stories that I NEED to hear. My goodness. I also want to hear more Detroit Pistons during their heyday stories.
Walk in the club "WHo's f--kin'?"
Ikr! Like damn, some guys have all the luck!
Ya dig
John Salley played with Jordan and he played with Kobe. Something isn't adding up, because he was supposed to be "old" when the Pistons
lost to the Bulls in 1991. 🤔
How effective was he dude? I mean u can't make this stuff up
He's 27 when they lost to bulls in 91
It was 29 dumars was 28 bill was 33
According to most Pistons from MJs "Last Dance" they were too old by the time MJ got by them. 🙄
He specifically was young at the time you dumb dingus
The pistons main players were older and more experienced
John Salley, reminds me of a black Jeff Goldblum. Mannerisms, dry sense of humor yet, the ability to be serious/funny all in one
Morale of the story is “ain’t nothing new under the sun”
"It's never what you do but how it's done"
Gotta love John Salley! "We here for a reason not a season" 😂😂😂😂😂
5:08 Gil sleeping on that Boston Market Rotisserie chicken. 😂
tyhem potatoes hit too! especially with the chicken gravy
Man I can listen to John Salley tell stories of the old days, "ALL DAY LONG"!!!!. SOOOO smart, intelligent, interesting & entertaining!!!!.
Gil should get with the cartoonist who did the Doc Ellis lsd perfect game cartoon. And do 70's/80's/90's NBA episodes
Facts
Big Sal Certified legend
I love Gil's podcast and John Sally is the ultimate story teller. Nothing like hearing those amazing stories of yesterday. Women (The Work) was freakin phenomenal back then. I remember seeing them back in the day late 80's early 90's with NBA players like Jerry Reynolds and Terry Catledge who played for the Orlando Magic. They had some sup dupa Stars that were straight on another level
That’s the thing LeBron is great, Jordan was different. Not even in the same league. Jordan in a sense was human. The gambling, cigars, the late nights, drinking and partying, playing with crackheads and junkies, showing up for 82 games. The two are not of the same cloth. Jordan is a top competitor, LeBron is a talent. A competitor is driven by something that’s not tangible. The entire nba is talented…
Well said!
I want people to stop saying Kobe was a mirror of MJ. Physically there’s no comparison. People don’t realize how strong MJ was. Not only that no one could grab a ball out of the air with 1 hand like a softball. We will start there. MJ had a 48 inch vertical. Still the highest vertical ever in the league. We’ve had some great leapers 5’9” and under. From Spud Webb to Nate Robinson that won multiple dunk contests between them. Jordan was 6’6” and jumped higher than those guys. He jump so high people literally talked about his hang time and how he floated in air til the defender hit the ground. My point is no one ever had that hang time. The guy in 87 that scored 38 ppg, defensive player of year, All everything else you can think of. Kobe is reminiscent of MJ after baseball. Thats where the comparison starts. When MJ lost some of that raw athleticism. MJ had handles but he didn’t have any wasted dribbles. He dribbles with purpose. People will say Kobe had a better handle which is fine but when Shaq left and Phil left the Lakers Kobe started that iso dribble where everyone watched him. Dribble without purpose is a team killer. Plus Kobe became that 2nd version of MJ when Phil came back to deliver him (2) more chips. The 1st version of Kobe was sooooo damn efficient. He averaged 25 with Shaq and was shooting maybe 15-18 times a game not 25-30. He was Batman and so was Shaq. They were equals. Kobe had to facilitate the offense at the end of the game cause of Shaq foul shooting. He was more Lebron than MJ with the defense of Scottie. I say Lebron cause he could take over a game when needed but facilitated like Scottie. I could go on but you’ll get it
Jordan more athletic and Kobe more skilled.
@davelouie131 Bad take. No way he's more skilled. Watch the videos.
@@Idcaboutyourfeelings24He's not wrong tho. Kobe is by far the most skilled player in the league. Don't forget that Kobe played half of his career with injuries. He's the only NBA player who played with a broken hand, broken finger, torn shoulder, fractured knee and still better than the rest of the NBA players.
Kobe blows Jordan out the water in terms of basketball, take emotion out of it n you’ll see clearer
Preach
So breaks the narrative of how the 90s Bulls were being handled. Gourmet Food, High Level Planes, Legit Trainers, Massage Specialists, Luxury Hotels, Strength Coach, Swimming Pool just to Train and etc. (2 Things) this should have been shown on the Documentary and also they were all pampered and trained like modern day players that is *ucking Wild who knew !
They worked for it and this happened in the later years..... once they were champions.
@@mrblend doesn’t matter it’s about doing things over 25 years ago is considered normal today that’s exceptional and 2 steps ahead
@@reggp1 yeah I know, but Im just saying, they only got that after winning... it is has been standard for all teams for a while now. But it is advanced for sure, ahead of their time.
@@mrblend as long as your the first to do something and then it becomes standard that’s how life goes Sprint HTC was first then the IPhone changed the planet
@@reggp1 lol HTC... that brings some memories haha
John a smooth dude. Very chill and humble!
That Robert Parish anecdote was simple yet hilarious! “Ya gotta learn to pace ya self young fella!” 💨 🥃
This why 90s-2000 is the most physically gifted players. They say today is, but seeing gil react to the treatment is priceless 😂 I'm taking those era players over this new generation. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. But I'm picking jordan, kobe, magic, bird, duncan, drexler. Etc... they was built different.
3:03 “I remember I was on a squad I won’t say the name.. Miami Heat” 😂😂
It was the...
Isaiah was from the Westside of Chicago.
Yeah but he reppin the southside, Isiah's family are gangsters, even his mom was gangsta
Don’t let the smile fool you
Possibly the BEST conversation on this show EVERY!!! REAL TALK!!!
If yall want to know what a real Brooklyn dude is without the antics it’s Salley
Dot & Etta's is a Detroit staple 🎯Spiderman Salley definitely ain't lying 💯🤣
Yoooooo “if i paid, I can say” is crazy work about old boys bm
This is the BEST clip i've seen in YEARS!!! 🤣
This is the best episode iv ever seen from this show!
Isiah From Da WESTSIDE
Isiah “Lord” Thomas
💯
Like a MF’r!!!!!
One of the best
Facts
This dude is a great storyteller, Gil gotta bring him back on the show
This is why The Best Damn Sports Show Period was legendary. John Salley.
NGL......That Big Chief story was GOLD!
Petition to make john a regular
Man this is great Salley is gold
Dot & Ettas is a staple in Detroit. Salley is always on point.
bro he's AIRING IT ALL OUT LMAOOOOOOO
Gil is right....
These stories are GOOD MINES,
because these young people nowadays couldn't even fathom how players operated back in the 70's 80's and early 90's 💯
The difference is Michael Jordan got his shots in the flow of the offense and he was efficient and Kobe would try to shoot over multiple defenders instead of letting the game come to him.
Nawww
Yes, thats about right.
I watched Kobe growing up, he’s overrated
@@jmoore0386u gotta be a troll looking for attention with this comment
@@jmoore0386
From 00 to 10
Kobe
28ppg
5
4
45%
55% tsp
Kobe from 06 to 10 peak years
Season
30ppg
5
5
45%
56% True shooting
Playoffs
30ppg
6
5
46%
56% true shooting
15 all nba
12x all defense
How was he overrated? You people who hate Kobe are so brainwashed it was by designed that they wanted to suppress Kobe to win more rings and had mvps stolen from him. Jordan nor lebron did something that Kobe did and that was go 10-1 vs 50+ win teams and take his teams to the finals without a all nba or defense or dpyo, or all star in 08 he lost to a 4x all star squad in the Celtics. Being overrated isn't the word that goes with kobe at all.
Beautiful when a person realized a humbling situation ... communication is key in any relationship ... shout out to Gil 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
John Salley’s spider stories are the best.
Mr. Sally is such a chill man. I enjoy his stories.
Dot & Ettas Shrimp! John Salley a real Detroiter lol
I love when OGs explain how the league used to be!!
OG Sally. Good old days~~~> Very good story teller.
THAT BOY SAID, “DOTT & ETTAS!!” Boy o boy we use tear that up! Dam I miss those days! 😂👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 He took me back home to the D with that statement!
He won championships with ZEKE too… LET IT BE KNOWN!
He won two (2) chips with Isiah!
Salley always has the Best stories ... Gil is right , those OG players need to start a podcast . real talk .
One of the best guests ever!!!
“Who’s Fukkin!?” INSANELY DIABOLICAL WORK! 😭😂
I need that hoodie Josiah got on 😂😂
John Salley is definitely as funny as everyone says he is. I remember Open Court & IT saying he was the funniest teammate.
John Salley is funny as hell.
Jordan was a god amongst men. Kobe was a basketball genius trying to emulate the hoop god, and coming pretty damn close at the peak of his powers.
I like this from John sally. Nutrition is paramount in life and in sports. A Holistic Lifestyle
Love this one Gil do more OG players from the 80s and 90s
Best episode ever!!!!!!!
Salley: she been here 3 X's this week
Mccants: that's fine work right there 😂😂😂
17:27 if I pay I can say
IKR. Holy 🤦🏾♂️
I’ve always been confused to why he haven’t starting writing for people. His penmanship is amazing. But on the other hand I love seeing him doing his thing my any means
Gil thinks because dudes smoked after the game that he’d work hem over? Lol
Happy to see how Salley stomped all over that with the Parish story
"Dennis finally meets somebody.... he loves dearly...... he just met her" 😂😂😂😂 shit made me spit my juice out my mouth ... lmao salley facial expression while he saying it 😂😂😂😂😂
Zeke is from the Westside of the Chi
Gil never lied. Those old players have the 🔥🔥 Stories
There's great pic of Dave Parker hitting the J in the dugout during a game. Got a ring. Doc Ellis called everybody out, red pills, green pills. Nobody a saint. Sports is crazy hard. Team doc says, "Eat this, eat that or you are done, son.", you eat it. Do stuff that makes you happy, you gonna do good at your job.
John Sally tells the best stories
Salley is too cool
Great Show brothas!!
You got to love john Sally