I just grabbed a like new RP with the RF 35mm, the EF 50mm 1.8, canon adaptor, grip extension, extra battery, Godox TT350 flash and TTL wireless flash trigger on eBay for $1300.
Hard to beat the intuitive nature of the Nikon. The buttons make sense. The menus make sense and are easy to navigate. I’ll stick to Nikon’s ecosystem for birding and landscapes and my Fujifilm X100V for travel shots.
I just switched from a Nikon z6 to a Sony a7riv. The auto focus on the Nikon really isn’t as bad as Jared makes it out to be. I think their tracking works better in some situations and I actually really like holding the front button to activate tracking. But For eye af Sony is way better
@@drbeardo6960 rumor has it that the Z8/Z9 that's being used in the field blows them both out of the water and has a global shutter to boot. Thing about eye AF is it's just an algorithm and once Nikon tweaks theirs... Point being, these days you can't go wrong with any system and as Daniel points out all these "influencers" hype the differences to get clicks. While Canon is doing better now it was Sony that was ahead 2 years ago in terms of eye AF. As long as photographers keep chasing the top system for bragging rights they'll never be able to invest in the system they have; granted it also means the rest of us can gobble up the leftovers on eBay. No doubt an RF to Z adapter is in the works. The FE to Z adapter is 2mm and works pretty well so they can definitely do wonders with twice that thickness for an RF to Z. Then I can buy some RF glass on eBay when "everyone" jumps to Fuji next year for whatever reason... I shot Canon DSLRs for 20 years before handling a D750 and jumping ship in 2016. That said all my EF glass works perfectly on my Z6 with the Fringer adapter. LOL
Uh, I think Sony beats Nikon in AF in general (at least any type of tracking) -- and this is coming from a Nikon Z shooter.... However, my hope is that over time, the Z7 II and Z6 II will at least come close to what Sony and Canon can offer, via the second processor on the generation 2 Z bodies. Over time, they will improve though (in fact, NIkon is due to release a new update in 2 days for the Z cameras--including some AF improvements).
@@ElGrecoDaGeek I would probably doubt that. At best, it might be the same as perhaps an a7 III or one of the lower end Canons, but nothing that will "blow" Sony or Canon out of the water. IF anything, it will be comparable. Which is an improvement for NIkon, but for pro wildlife/sports shooters (which is what the Z9 I think is going to be geared towards) it may not be enough.
Yes, was about to write that, too. Powerbank or USB-C charger with PD is sufficient. Using it with my EOS R. Unfortunately you cannot charge while in use, but they did change that in the R5 and R6.
Long-term Canon photographer. Almost two years ago, I moved from the 70D to the RP (over the 6DII) because I wanted to go full frame and I wanted access to the lovely RF glass. I assumed that I would move in a couple of years to a subsequent Canon mirrorless body - maybe that will be the R5. I have been very happy with the RP and the images I have made.
The RP has Eye AF in continuous per their website: "Eye AF works with the Canon EOS RP in One Shot AF mode, Servo AF mode and Movie Servo AF ensuring both static and moving subjects are captured with their eyes clearly in focus." This has been my experience on my RP as well.
How does the Z5 ISO noise compare with the Z6/Z7? The RP is cleaner than the Z7 and just a bit noisier than the Z6. It's probably a lot cleaner than you'd imagine. As for dynamic range, the RP is behind for sure if you 'need to' raise shadows, but if you deliberately overexpose without blowing out highlights, the shadows are clean and highlights can be recovered. You do the opposite to what you'd do on most other cameras.
It's like Jared tries to find a way NOT to give Nikon any credit. Maybe he had a bad breakup with his Nikon DSLRs, idk it's getting very predictable at this point. Next he will say the Canon T1 will be better than the Z5. lol
@@DarnellReid2007 Oh I'm sure but that's not the point. Any camera is fine in the right hands but lets be real, not everyone has the Right Hands and they need Specs to make them THINK they are better.
Love to see the fanboys go 🤦🏼 - Focussystem CanonRP ✅ - Lenssystem Canon ✅ - updates canon ✅ - software / Raw / jepg canon ✅ - price Canon ✅ - menu system canon ✅ Still Nikon Z5 is a very good camera. But for that price a Canon R, Fuji, Lumix or sony will crush it. 😅 Still love to shoot again with a Nikon Z5 oneday
There's nothing wrong with investing in Z mount from a future perspective. I most recently bought a Z6II and it's honestly one of the most fun cameras I have ever shot with and this is coming from somebody invested in Nikon, Fuji and Sony. I like shooting with it more than I like shooting on my A7RIII. The subject tracking and eye AF is also very good on that camera, AF in general. It always kills me when I see that hemp field clip and instead of just changing the AF mode to something like either dynamic or pinpoint and continue shooting he just complains about the camera.
Awesome! I recently bought the Z5 after selling all my Sony gear so that I can get into FF - thus far, struggling with focus but working on it and finding this camera is so fun to use!
@@aberdeenmeadows You kind of learn to just work the camera, it's not a Sony. You really have to be a bit hands on with the camera to get the best out of it, but as long you aren't shooting fast birds in flight or sports the Z5 should be able to do the job.
@@pawe708 The 24-120 F4 is a good catch all till you get to nature. The Nikon 28-75 and 17-28's 2.8's are also pretty good. There's also the 24-200 if you want a jack of all trades master of none lens. The 35, 50 and 85 1.8 lenses are also good. There's a lens for everything unless you want 1.4 primes.
After removing the jokes and in-video ads, (I get it, everyone needs to eat,) besides showing that you still don't have a grasp on the Z system AF modes, (talking about using the joystick alone to move AF points,) you have maybe 15 minutes of just basically comparing the spec sheets of each camera. Regarding the sensors, rather than spout ISO and megapixels, talk about actual image quality. Look at noise performance, dynamic range, tonality of not only the RAW file, but the JPGs. Many entry level photographers will use JPG, (I know, that one stings me too). If you look where the rubber meets the road, examine the flexibility of each cameras RAW files. The RP has a good tolerance for being overexposed, but less so for underexposure and shadow detail. The Z5 is pretty flexible for overexposure, but is in another league for being underexposed or working with shadow details because the sensor is nearly ISO invariant like the D750 you mentioned. This holds true for stills across the comparable systems, not just these cameras. (Even Pentax wipes the floor with the best Canon sensor for working with shadow detail. It's a huge weakness in their system, albeit one of very few.) A camera with a near ISO invariant sensor is an extremely useful thing to have. Think of it like Eye AF. Do you need it? No, of course not. But once you have it, it's a great tool. You also never mentioned the Z5 IBIS. How was this skipped Mr. Knows Photo? That's a HUGE, very useful feature and likely responsible for much of the price difference. You need to spend over $1,000 more than a Z5 to get a Canon body with IBIS. I think you would have been much better served focusing on the actual cameras you've decided to talk about rather then just using it as an excuse to tell everyone (again) that you switched to the R5 for video and to look at their overall system is the "bigliest". Not everyone is going to upgrade to a fully pro lens lineup and high-end camera body. Lastly, you speak about not jumping from one system to another when a new camera is released, but you're literally in a community of content creators that do exactly that in order to stay relevant. How many videos from you and your peers are titled something like "Time to Switch?" Stuff like this further programs consumers to do exactly that. So, what's the real message? Overall this seems like the most disjointed camera comparison video from you to date. I hope you take these comments constructively as I do legit enjoy your light heartedness, humor and well practiced delivery.
I was shocked when I saw DPReview's studio comparison tool showing the Z5's ISO invariance and underexposure performance next to the RP's. With my D750 I've got so used to being able to massively lift the shadows from my raw files. I couldn't count the number of times I've fired off a bracketed set at +/-2EV to deal with a very high DR scene and when I've come to merge them in Lightroom the result looks no better than just the -2EV frame with shadows lifted. I'd hate to lose that.
Correction on RP about charging via USB-C : You don't need the ridiculously expensive Canon USB-C chargers for the RP although Canon does not make it clear. You need to have a "Power Delivery" (PD) port with a USB-C to USB-C cable. You can then use any battery pack (such as Anker makes), wall plug adapter, or PC/MAC with a PD USB-C output with at least 18 watts to charge the RP battery in the camera. The RP does have to be off in order to charge which is a disadvantage.
I just picked up a D7500 not long ago so I won't be looking for a replacement soon. I was considering going to Sony, but I'm too invested in Nikon glass. Nice to see the Z5 got through this comparison without too many negative points because I'm probably staying with Nikon. I think even next year the Z5 will be a good buy. Maybe I'll be ready and the price will drop a little too. Thanks Jared!
If you want the feeling of cheaply made plastic in your hands, get the RP. The Z5 on the other hand feels amazing in the hand. It’s just a way better built camera.
Maybe it is because I use back button focus, so the shutter button does not activate focus and I have to use back button focus. I tried it also with continuous AF and it also works with eye AF, but this drain the battery like a hell, because it focus all the time.
@@michalgric Oh okay, didn't know that, should try that myself, but might be a thing that has been added by update (Jared tested the camera 2 years ago)
I am not a nikon fanboy, and I own a r6, but I don't agree when you bring the "system" argument in this comparison saying that the r5-r6 is better then z6ii-z7ii. First when we talk about system I would thinks its more about the lenses then the bodies. And second, more advanced bodies are released almost early, and we dont't know to much about the pro mirrorless bodies. So their is not a clearer winner yet. It's not sure canon's ecosystem is better yet, but you also say it like its a determined fact, again, just because the r5 and r6 are the better bodies at this moment ... :) the video is great, but I was a bit bothered by that.
I'm a Nikon owner, but I appreciate Canon very much. Anyway, I agree with you. Firmware updates have really changed the game, and now Nikon made the Z6II and Z7II with dual processors. I would assume that makes a difference with what it can do with firmware. I'm very impressed with the Z glass so far.
Nikon shooter here as well. We need both companies to have a healthy competition. I love my Z system, but also envy the current high- end Canon cameras, I hope Nikon will catch up this year.
I shot Canon for 20 years. I then shot a D750 and was hooked by the ergo and super clean ISO-less RAWs. I agonized over the switch, but after 20 years I made it. Point being, it blows me away how quickly these "influencers" and many gearhead photogs switch between systems... I still have my 5Diii and 7Di and my EF glass though I sold or gifted all the older bodies (film, 10D, 30D). Even then I still use my Canon glass on the Z6 with the Fringer adapter. That established I totally agree. All of the things the "influencers" yap on about and create drama (clicks) for is algorithms. It's only a matter of time before one leapfrogs over the other for a short while. For example, rumor has it the Z8/Z9 has a global shutter AND those who've used it have said the AF blows away Canon and Sony big time. If even simplified versions of those algos make it into a Z6ii or Z7ii it would be a big deal. But then Canon would try to one up Nikon etc. Competition is good. These influencers are trying to kill the competition which would be bad. Jared is ok but Tony Northrup is by far the worst of them though I really used to enjoy his videos before they were powerpoints. Like I said I shot Canon for 20 years. Still have most of my glass and I can use all of it on my Z body including some ancient FD lenses with IBIS. It took me 20 years to switch, but if I switched as often as these guys do I'd be broke. Then again when they sell all their gear on eBay those of us who are patient win |)
@@ElGrecoDaGeek The gear I own and spent good money on to do so, is not much compared to yours. I can imagine how difficult that switch was. Just the thought of doing it causes me stress. Yeah, the "influencers" make it sound so easy to do. It's really annoying.
I have a Z5 and I really like it. Love having 2 cards, love the files that come from the Nikon stuff. I wish I had some of the Z glass, but that’s more on me really.
Just got a Z6II. The 24-70 f4 "kit lens" is really like no other kit lens I've ever experienced. I also got a 50mm 1.8 because they were on sale, and I had a bunch of gift cards. If you like primes, that 50mm outperforms it's price point, imo. Very sharp, it also has nice bokeh. Nikon has some exciting glass on the horizon for us Z mount users.
@@paulhudson7905 I don't know. I'm the only person I know who does any sort of photography anymore. My friends shot Canon, though that was years ago now. So I'm not familiar with current models. I just know I liked how Nikons felt and handled a lot better at the time. To me, eye af isn't everything. I got along fine without it for years. I started doing video with Nikons on the D90 (the first dslr to ever feature video). It had manual focus only on video, and you can see the stuff I shot with it 10-12 years ago on my channel. Low light, color Disney rides were rare back then. Anyway, I have 5 Nikons, though the Z6II is my first full frame. All my old ones still operate perfectly. My D80 is 14 years old, I still use it sometimes. I feel they have a good build quality.
@@Pantheragem I have the D90 and the Z7. I still look at the D90 files and amazed how good they are. The are leagues above any iPhone I have ever seen.
@@NVIK5 By far, totally agree. Any phone really can't compare. I've taken pictures of people with a phone, then with a D80/D90 and old 50mm 1.8 F lens, and showed them. They were usually amazed at how much better they looked in the dslr pic. I still have my D90 with it's battery grip ready to go. That camera with a 30mm Sigma felt like magic to me. Most of what's on my channel was shot with that combo. I may have newer, "better" cameras, but I'm not letting my old Nikons go.
We are using the R5 and the colors are far from "more duller". Change the browser you're in and see the differences. They all do different color rendering.
I have a Z 50 and a few F- and a Z-mount Nikon lenses, so the decision is an easy one. A Z 5 as my main shooting body and the baby Z 50 as a backup. Thanks for the comparison video.
Just for the record, you can get 4FPS tracking with continuous AF with the RP, and it works just fine (I have one, to be clear). I don't know where Jared is getting "speed priority" and "tracking priority", neither of which is listed in Canon's RP user manual (termed generally as "High Speed" and "Low Speed"). As with any camera, they only list the top end of the range; fps is always and will continue to be affected by other factors such as battery life, flicker mode, lens aperture, etc. So you're not likely to top out at 4FPS for that long, but you CAN get it.
Bought the RP two weeks ago. Then the Z5 went on sale for a grand... total honesty, I'm glad I got the RP. The Z5 is a great camera but just as you suggested I wanted to stick with the Canon ecosystem of gear so based on that I made the right choice, but this video definitely made me think more about which way to go from here on out.
I have an rp and love it as an amateur that is getting back into photography after many years. I fathered with a T7i last xmas time, then upgraded to rp mid summer when a good deal came along. I have shot some of my favorite photos since buying it. I have no regrets.
Jared tell me something: how do you exactly invest in the Canon system by buying an outdated RP and a crappy throwaway lens ( you will clearly not buy premium glass for that camera)? So what will remain of your initial purchase if you want to move up? Absolutely nothing will be transferable! You are playing the old Canon game by trying to sell the low-end crap using the high end line specifications, making people believe that they’re in the superior system. The Z5 absolutely massacres the RP and you know that.
In my humble opinion, and based on my experience, Nikon Z50 the best in its category. And in terms of video recording characteristics, comparing it with its competitors, I would summarize it like this: Nikon Z50: - The one with the best image quality in APS-C (excellent clarity and sharpness). - The best low-light performance (very low digital noise level). - The one with the best viewfinder (large, bright and very sharp). - The one with the best audio capture (with internal mic). - The one with the best grip. Sony A6400: - The one with the best autofocus (fast and precise). - Great availability of lenses. - The one with the best options for post-production. - The only one that has unlimited video recording (limited only by the battery, of course). - Fuji XT-30: - The one with the best colors. - Great availability of lenses. Canon M6: - The one with the best skin tones.
I had the original 6D and it was horrible when boosting the shadows (very common in landscapes and architecture), and someone should have been fired for releasing the 6D2 sensor. The fact that it still exists all these years later in a new body is an insult. Much better sensor in the Nikon.
Hy Jared, I shoot Sony for 2 years, if you are talking only about autofocus, Sony is very good, but I just switch back to the Nikon Z system by purchasing the Z6ii. The Sony wasn't good enough for my necessity, I like more the color science and the flexibility of Nikon RAW files that's more important for my and for my way of shooting than all the technological stuff that Sony offers. You were a Nikon shooter and a great photographer I used to follow you but the new Jared I don't like it so much. You once said, the camera is just a tool to express the photographer's ability and skills (something like that). You inspired me to buy my first D3100. Now a days I don't see you anymore like a photographer but more likely a camera dealer. Sorry for now, maybe in the future things will change. All of luck.
Got my Z5 with 40mm F2 lens. IBIS(not mentioned in video) , dual card slots(super important), better camera feel and super quick adjustments, better low light photos, better battery life and top of all that much better affordable lenses. Now that they have improved AF through firmware updates, I have absolutely no issues with AF even in fast action videos. Z5 is clearly best mirrorless full frame camera at sub 1k USD price tag. This camera also makes you feel like you use professional body. If you are not shooting wildlife then Z5 is a go to.
Yeah, the RP is an outdated piece of crap. 1080p only, no IBIS and horrible battery life. The cropped 4k is annoying, but it still looks better than 1080p.
But isn't it like learning how to write and post letters when the world is moving to emails? ik learning the exposure settings is important, but from here on, everything will be EVF based, so learning for an old system doesn't make any sense?
I have a canon RP. It’s not as slow as Jared makes it seem. Yes it’s definitely not the fastest by any means but it still ok for beginners or amateurs. I use it professionally, it does great in low light. I don’t shoot video so I really didn’t care about the specs.
I love my RP but I do notice the dynamic range issues. I kind of want to get an R but I feel like they will either release an R II or RP II this year so I am going to wait. An R II with IBIS would be amazing.
I think the R II is the R6. There aren't any new new cameras leaked other than the R7. I was able to get an R for $1100 with adapter just I wouldn't wait just jump on it.
@@jimmysyar889 It would be if it had the resolution but it doesn't, they can do the R exactly as it is, remove the touch bar and put a joystick and add IBIS and that would be a great camera.
@@venom5809 people say that touch and drag is better than the joystick. In my mind you get a better “joystick” and a touch bar. They could replace the touch bar with something else but it doesn’t need a joystick as the touch and drag is much better
Yes. It was added in a firmware update. Must have been after Jared did his review and he didn’t bother to revisit. Shame to hear this outdated info in a new video!
I recently purchased the Nikon Z6ii. I used to use a Sony A6600. Honestly speaking, I returned the Z6ii in about a week. I tried to use it, but the Nikon Autofocus is nowhere near as good. I was missing focus on 3-4 shots out of every 11-14 photo burst (eye af). I never used to miss even one with the Sony. I have now purchased the A7C with a Tamron 28-75 2.8 and couldn't be happier.
Thanks again! Fantastic comparison - just bought the Z5 today with the 24-50mm. Gonna use the FTZ adapter with it so I can still use my F-mount 50mm f/1.8.
You’re thinking of the Z6II & Z7II that now have face icons. We had face detection & eye AF on in the menu with auto area enabled. It’s different in the Z5
The EOS RP costs a lot less than the Nikon Z5. These probably shouldn't even be compared. But my God is stuck so far in the past with providing only a tilting screen that doesn't completely flip over or articulate around. The technology is there and cheap. You can find a $500 camera with one. I truly contemplated stretching my budget to a Z5 after I had it recommended to me for travel photography. But I'd like to not be stuck with my cell phone for selfies in the exotic locations I'll be visiting. Most people don't get to visit these places and I'd like to capture it on more than 12 megapixels.
@@ElectricC0mpany You're right, they're not quite direct peers, really. Although imo the Nikon is worth the extra for the better sensor alone. As for the screen, the fact is that many "serious" stills shooters prefer the Nikon style of articulating screen; it remains on-axis (vertically) which makes composition easier and it looks less unwieldy, and it's also slightly quicker to fold out into position. Not being able to flip it forward is definitely a compromise, but it's a a deliberate choice based on function, not cost
How can we get Canon to make the Silent shutter in Manual for EOS RP? The SCN Scene mode is cool; however, it causes variables in the photos because of the auto mode is activated.
Canon RP body is $899 now; and newly released Canon RF 50mm 1.8 lens is $199. Might be a good bike trip/hiking set-up. I was a hobby shooter with a darkroom decades ago and I'm ok with a 50mm lens. Retired and looking into something better than my iPhone.
I am not a professional, just a hobbiest and I am looking to retire my **old** nikon d3000. I am tempted to get the z5 but honestly, I can't afford the lenses for a mirrorless full frame camera right now. So I was thinking that I can get some crop-sensor lenses and just use the adapter on the z5....but from what I understand, putting cropped lenses on a full frame camera, not only causes cropping, but lowers the resolution. Is this true? So I was thinking, hell....maybe just get the nikon d7500 and call it a day. It's affordable and will work well with a couple of extra lenses as well.
If you're purely a photog and don't have any want for video RP. If you want to hybrid and use all the capabilities of a camera Z5. For a starting point just to get a feel for something...well it's a starting point so it doesn't matter overall so go with either and learn the system of that brand and grow from there to a R6 or Z7-II
For the price it'll make a great backup camera. To maximise dynamic range, overexpose the image (without blowing out highlights) and then the shadows won't need to be recovered and you just recover the highlights. I've shot some very high contrast scenes alongside a friend with the EOS R and I can capture everything he can.
At 28:00 we can see that your head is blurred... The AF on your Canon seems to be in manual mode ? Why ? Canon AF isn't that good ...? :) Love the wind tunnel test, you never be able to guess the winner ! :))
I was about buying the Z5, i have compared with Canon RP, yes Z5 was better than RP to my calculation, but....once the price was about higher than what i dreamed...since i was expecting 1000-1200 USD...then i decided of buying Z50 instead, with FTZ, Nikkor 35mm DX 1.8 and Viltrox EFZ Adapter and Canon 24mm f2.8 ...and i am happy...more access to F lenses and EFS lenses...
I bought A7III which beats all of the above in every way for less or same money (I paid new one $1300)! But I certainly hope Nikon comes up with some great gear and crushes competition.
You can't throw A73 in a comparison just because you found that one and only great deal. That's like if I bought R5 for $1000 from a junkie and said: wow, it beats all of the above in every way for less or same money.
I have an 80d that was a gift 4.5 years ago. Last year I bought a d610 to get into full frame. I think I am gonna go back to canon. Thanks for the in depth video Fro!
RP costs a lot less than Z5 over here in Malaysia. Both glasses are pricey, however RP would be great with EF to RF adapter and EF lenses are far more affordable than Nikon AF-S lenses.
I'm using Nikon D5500 with Nikon 50mm f1.8 and 18-140mm. I want to shift to Nikon Z5 or Z6. I have 2 questions. 1st which camera body I should go for? 2nd. As I said 2 Nikon lens I have its good to buy Z5 with FTZ and use my 50mm 1.8 or buy Viltrox 85mm f1.8? I only use camera for family portrait and landscape photos only. No video at all. Dont have lots of budget. Please help to choose with camera body and lens I should go far. Many thanks.
Was thinking the same thing. My first reaction was "why explain THIS, obviously everyone watching this video knows what xxxxx is...", but a few moments later i thought that no, everyone starts at some point and there are definitely going to be complete newbies watching this, wanting to learn. If anything, MORE things should be explained in simpler manner by pros reviewing stuff.
@@DobromirManchev I agree to a certain extent. If you don’t know what someone is talking about, learn. We all had to do it at some point. I couldn’t watch the whole video because of how dumbed down it is. I just want to find a video that will tell me if the Canon RP is just a full frame M50. I have the M50 and I don’t care for it for stills. I need an upgrade and am on a budget. I am saving for lenses and a decent body but if it’s just “ ok” ( the RP) , I will go with something else. I don’t like to do a whole lot in post.
Hey Jared. Can you please do a zoom in while tracking a subject. I know the Sony system could not even get 1 focused photo when a test was done awhile back.. But I have not seen someone do a comparison on the Nikon, Sony and Canon. While zooming in or out while tracking a subject. That will be great to see.
If the evaluation is related to Canon system I do understand, but if specific to the camera I do not agree also summing your checkmarks given to Z5! I think that you are too much biased by the autofocus performance of Nikon System that is clear is behind the competition BUT AUTOFOCUS IS NOT ALL THE STORY! It depends on the kind of photography you do (for landscape is much more important quality of lens and quality of files) and even for portraits I see a lot of professional where they focus on manual (Karl Taylor for example that by the way uses Canon!). Seems to me more a problem you had with Nikon Corp... You prefer Canon is ok but if you want to make reviews that seems neutral but are not neutral... That's our problem!
I don't know Jared. I feel like Nikon and Canon are creating choice overload to the point where a decision is becoming impossible. I thought I was happy with my purchase of the Canon T7i for an introduction camera but now I just don't know....there are better options now at almost the same price. Just wait another 10min and a even better option. The cycle is endless.
Really like the fact your videos are thorough, provide critical context, and earnestly state how the gear world looks from where you stand. I also appreciate the fact you make it clear the perspective you speak from. I have a Z6, am pleased with it so far, and believe I have a lot to learn before I get the best it has to offer. I am thankful for the remarkable advances Sony and Canon have brought to market and believe it will ultimately benefit most customers. My camera has always been good, but (with firmware updates) is a much better camera now than when I purchased it 15 months ago. I am hopeful the Z6II, Z7II, and newer bodies Nikon introduces get updates that put them on par with Sony and Canon in the eye focus and movement tracking area. It feels like they are getting close.
I agree with your slight sliver on the lens selection to cannon. I will add however that the zmount beats the rf technically. the wider ring means that future lenses can be be made faster and lighter since they can skip a lot of the extra glass needed to bend light from a large lens to the sensor area. it also means wide angle lenses can have a higher max sharpness. Of course, that also depends on the lenses taking advantage of the strengths of the z mount. Time will tell how the ecosystem evolves. Being technically superior doesn't always guarantee success.. Look at Betamax
Have a Nikon D500 and a handful of Nikon DX lenses (nikon and Sigma) trying to decide if I go with a Z5 (and at least be able to use the DX lenses in crop with the FTZ) or start over....
Z5 is a better camera in almost everything, except it weights almost 1.5 times more than RP, and has giant nikon 50/1.8 which cost 3 times more than canon tiny 50/1.8. That is why I bought RP besides the price was the same.
You can't compare Nikkor 50mm 1.8S with Canon's crap nifty fifty. Nikkor is so much better optically. There is also 40mm F2 lens if sizes matter. Tiny and ideal for travel. You sound like sizes are the most important one when choosing camera. WTH just. Z5 kills RP in every aspect except size difference and you take that one aspect?
@@Blitz_Shorts Well, I bought compact camera, of course size is important. As for nikon 50/1.8S, not interested. This is the price and size of 50/1.4, not f1.8
@@dimakor5914 Nikon Z 50mm 1.8S outperforms all DSLR 1.4 lenses and current all 1.8 lenses of other manufacturers. Just don't tell about price is high, it's more than justified price of the quality you get.
The Z5 is the clear winner. It's better than the RP in every way except for the lack of screen articulation...and you can always work around that with a monitor.
Ended review for me at 2:18 - "because they are priced very similarly"??????? 40% more is not "very similar"ly. I own the RP and it's a fantastic body for $1000. For $1400 I would expect a lot more than the Zed5 offers. There are a few thing not many shooters will miss, but not a deal breaker for a grand. The RP does have focus bracketing and a flexible priority mode (has become my favorite - quick and easy on the fly). It's a very under-rated camera. Most that dis it haven't even shot with it!
@Photo Bunny Those Nikon lenses are cheap for a reason! For the record the average price of the 16 Nikon Z lenses is $1621, the average price of the 17 Canon RF lenses is $1641 - hardly a difference. Any of the the RF lenses can take fantastic photo's if the photographer is capable. IBIS is overrated - have you ever shot back in the film days? It's amazing to me how many "photographers" need crutches these days to take decent images! Refer back to the last sentence of my original comment.
Been a Nikon for years, But now i am looking at Cannon now. Reason being Nikon never puts anything on sale were as Cannon does. And I do spend quite a bit on accessories, Lens, bags, straps etc... and Cannon always has some kind of deal going on.
Which are you going with?
RP
RP all the way , just for you my Nikon Guy
RP :)
Z5
Already got Z5. I trust Z mount lenses :)
I don't think you mentioned that the z5 has in-body stabilization. May not justify all the price difference, but definitely some.
@Photo Bunny They had the Z5 with the z adapter for $1250 during their holiday sales, which I think is the perfect price point.
I just grabbed a like new RP with the RF 35mm, the EF 50mm 1.8, canon adaptor, grip extension, extra battery, Godox TT350 flash and TTL wireless flash trigger on eBay for $1300.
@@mattbuckley7645 I bought mine for 1050 USD couple weeks ago, and new 40mm F2 for 250USD
Hard to beat the intuitive nature of the Nikon. The buttons make sense. The menus make sense and are easy to navigate. I’ll stick to Nikon’s ecosystem for birding and landscapes and my Fujifilm X100V for travel shots.
I just switched from a Nikon z6 to a Sony a7riv. The auto focus on the Nikon really isn’t as bad as Jared makes it out to be. I think their tracking works better in some situations and I actually really like holding the front button to activate tracking.
But For eye af Sony is way better
Try R5
That's even better
@@drbeardo6960 rumor has it that the Z8/Z9 that's being used in the field blows them both out of the water and has a global shutter to boot.
Thing about eye AF is it's just an algorithm and once Nikon tweaks theirs... Point being, these days you can't go wrong with any system and as Daniel points out all these "influencers" hype the differences to get clicks. While Canon is doing better now it was Sony that was ahead 2 years ago in terms of eye AF.
As long as photographers keep chasing the top system for bragging rights they'll never be able to invest in the system they have; granted it also means the rest of us can gobble up the leftovers on eBay. No doubt an RF to Z adapter is in the works. The FE to Z adapter is 2mm and works pretty well so they can definitely do wonders with twice that thickness for an RF to Z. Then I can buy some RF glass on eBay when "everyone" jumps to Fuji next year for whatever reason... I shot Canon DSLRs for 20 years before handling a D750 and jumping ship in 2016. That said all my EF glass works perfectly on my Z6 with the Fringer adapter. LOL
Uh, I think Sony beats Nikon in AF in general (at least any type of tracking) -- and this is coming from a Nikon Z shooter.... However, my hope is that over time, the Z7 II and Z6 II will at least come close to what Sony and Canon can offer, via the second processor on the generation 2 Z bodies. Over time, they will improve though (in fact, NIkon is due to release a new update in 2 days for the Z cameras--including some AF improvements).
@@ElGrecoDaGeek I would probably doubt that. At best, it might be the same as perhaps an a7 III or one of the lower end Canons, but nothing that will "blow" Sony or Canon out of the water. IF anything, it will be comparable. Which is an improvement for NIkon, but for pro wildlife/sports shooters (which is what the Z9 I think is going to be geared towards) it may not be enough.
@@drbeardo6960 Of course it’s better, it’s like $6,000 dollars 😐
For charging the RP, you don't need the canon usb charger. Just get one that uses Power Delivery/45W.
Yes, was about to write that, too. Powerbank or USB-C charger with PD is sufficient. Using it with my EOS R. Unfortunately you cannot charge while in use, but they did change that in the R5 and R6.
Ha I just posted the same, before I did read the comments...
Long-term Canon photographer. Almost two years ago, I moved from the 70D to the RP (over the 6DII) because I wanted to go full frame and I wanted access to the lovely RF glass. I assumed that I would move in a couple of years to a subsequent Canon mirrorless body - maybe that will be the R5. I have been very happy with the RP and the images I have made.
IBIS and wheater sealed body. Nikon offers a lot more for your money
The RP has Eye AF in continuous per their website: "Eye AF works with the Canon EOS RP in One Shot AF mode, Servo AF mode and Movie Servo AF ensuring both static and moving subjects are captured with their eyes clearly in focus." This has been my experience on my RP as well.
Maybe they mean initial acquiring of AF during continuous AF and then it stays static?
@@godofhope It tracked for me on subsequent shots. I was surprised that it did a pretty good job tracking a 3 year old running around.
It was added in Firmware fall 2019. It's available in Servo and tracks all the way through
Guys I have 6d ii should I change because the af eye sometimes I missed my daughter shoots ?
Z5 has much better sensor with higher DR and cleaner shadows at any ISO
Z5 is far too expensive, with the small price difference to the Z6 the Z6 is usually the better choice unless you are hellbend on using SD cards.
@Photo Bunny I got my Z6 for £1500 with 2 batteries, an XQD, and the 24-70 f/4 (used, mint)
How does the Z5 ISO noise compare with the Z6/Z7? The RP is cleaner than the Z7 and just a bit noisier than the Z6. It's probably a lot cleaner than you'd imagine.
As for dynamic range, the RP is behind for sure if you 'need to' raise shadows, but if you deliberately overexpose without blowing out highlights, the shadows are clean and highlights can be recovered. You do the opposite to what you'd do on most other cameras.
@@phelanwolf6747 in my country Z5+24-50 is 1.249,00 €, RP+24-105/7.1 - 1.199,00 €
@@cooloox RP at ISO 100 is not cleaner than Z7 iso64 and much noisier in shadows area compared to Z6.
DR of the RP sensor behind even MFT sensor on G9
"Z5 got a check mark but bla bla bla.." don't care! Z5 eat the rp.
It's like Jared tries to find a way NOT to give Nikon any credit. Maybe he had a bad breakup with his Nikon DSLRs, idk it's getting very predictable at this point. Next he will say the Canon T1 will be better than the Z5. lol
@@artsilva the t1 still takes a decent photo in 2021 with the right technique 😅.
@@DarnellReid2007 Oh I'm sure but that's not the point.
Any camera is fine in the right hands but lets be real, not everyone has the Right Hands and they need Specs to make them THINK they are better.
Love to see the fanboys go 🤦🏼
- Focussystem CanonRP ✅
- Lenssystem Canon ✅
- updates canon ✅
- software / Raw / jepg canon ✅
- price Canon ✅
- menu system canon ✅
Still Nikon Z5 is a very good camera. But for that price a Canon R, Fuji, Lumix or sony will crush it. 😅
Still love to shoot again with a Nikon Z5 oneday
@@Xer0.Visual5 sorry am confused here what other camera brands you may get under same price tag of 1300$ ??
you didn't mention that the z5 has ibis. I think that is a massive feature you omitted from this comparison...
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Ibis works great , love my nikon Z5
There's nothing wrong with investing in Z mount from a future perspective. I most recently bought a Z6II and it's honestly one of the most fun cameras I have ever shot with and this is coming from somebody invested in Nikon, Fuji and Sony. I like shooting with it more than I like shooting on my A7RIII. The subject tracking and eye AF is also very good on that camera, AF in general. It always kills me when I see that hemp field clip and instead of just changing the AF mode to something like either dynamic or pinpoint and continue shooting he just complains about the camera.
Awesome! I recently bought the Z5 after selling all my Sony gear so that I can get into FF - thus far, struggling with focus but working on it and finding this camera is so fun to use!
@@aberdeenmeadows You kind of learn to just work the camera, it's not a Sony. You really have to be a bit hands on with the camera to get the best out of it, but as long you aren't shooting fast birds in flight or sports the Z5 should be able to do the job.
what Z mount lenses are good to consider when starting with photography with Nikon Z5? purpose, family photos, travel and nature
@@pawe708 The 24-120 F4 is a good catch all till you get to nature. The Nikon 28-75 and 17-28's 2.8's are also pretty good. There's also the 24-200 if you want a jack of all trades master of none lens. The 35, 50 and 85 1.8 lenses are also good. There's a lens for everything unless you want 1.4 primes.
I really don't know how this man manages to be so entertaining throughout 30min of video, great job !
After removing the jokes and in-video ads, (I get it, everyone needs to eat,) besides showing that you still don't have a grasp on the Z system AF modes, (talking about using the joystick alone to move AF points,) you have maybe 15 minutes of just basically comparing the spec sheets of each camera. Regarding the sensors, rather than spout ISO and megapixels, talk about actual image quality. Look at noise performance, dynamic range, tonality of not only the RAW file, but the JPGs. Many entry level photographers will use JPG, (I know, that one stings me too). If you look where the rubber meets the road, examine the flexibility of each cameras RAW files. The RP has a good tolerance for being overexposed, but less so for underexposure and shadow detail. The Z5 is pretty flexible for overexposure, but is in another league for being underexposed or working with shadow details because the sensor is nearly ISO invariant like the D750 you mentioned. This holds true for stills across the comparable systems, not just these cameras. (Even Pentax wipes the floor with the best Canon sensor for working with shadow detail. It's a huge weakness in their system, albeit one of very few.) A camera with a near ISO invariant sensor is an extremely useful thing to have. Think of it like Eye AF. Do you need it? No, of course not. But once you have it, it's a great tool. You also never mentioned the Z5 IBIS. How was this skipped Mr. Knows Photo? That's a HUGE, very useful feature and likely responsible for much of the price difference. You need to spend over $1,000 more than a Z5 to get a Canon body with IBIS. I think you would have been much better served focusing on the actual cameras you've decided to talk about rather then just using it as an excuse to tell everyone (again) that you switched to the R5 for video and to look at their overall system is the "bigliest". Not everyone is going to upgrade to a fully pro lens lineup and high-end camera body. Lastly, you speak about not jumping from one system to another when a new camera is released, but you're literally in a community of content creators that do exactly that in order to stay relevant. How many videos from you and your peers are titled something like "Time to Switch?" Stuff like this further programs consumers to do exactly that. So, what's the real message? Overall this seems like the most disjointed camera comparison video from you to date. I hope you take these comments constructively as I do legit enjoy your light heartedness, humor and well practiced delivery.
I was shocked when I saw DPReview's studio comparison tool showing the Z5's ISO invariance and underexposure performance next to the RP's. With my D750 I've got so used to being able to massively lift the shadows from my raw files. I couldn't count the number of times I've fired off a bracketed set at +/-2EV to deal with a very high DR scene and when I've come to merge them in Lightroom the result looks no better than just the -2EV frame with shadows lifted. I'd hate to lose that.
I bought Z50 last year with the FTZ adapter with my other nikon lenses and for know am pretty happy with the results I am getting off all my equiment
Correction on RP about charging via USB-C : You don't need the ridiculously expensive Canon USB-C chargers for the RP although Canon does not make it clear. You need to have a "Power Delivery" (PD) port with a USB-C to USB-C cable. You can then use any battery pack (such as Anker makes), wall plug adapter, or PC/MAC with a PD USB-C output with at least 18 watts to charge the RP battery in the camera. The RP does have to be off in order to charge which is a disadvantage.
I just picked up a D7500 not long ago so I won't be looking for a replacement soon. I was considering going to Sony, but I'm too invested in Nikon glass. Nice to see the Z5 got through this comparison without too many negative points because I'm probably staying with Nikon. I think even next year the Z5 will be a good buy. Maybe I'll be ready and the price will drop a little too. Thanks Jared!
If you want the feeling of cheaply made plastic in your hands, get the RP. The Z5 on the other hand feels amazing in the hand. It’s just a way better built camera.
But if you want a real camera...get the Nikon slaying R5/R6 😜
@@steveslack4750 if only r6 was 1300... I wish lol
If you want shitty autofocus,get the nikon
@@Henry_44 the Nikon Z9 says hello.
@@ghas4151 my wallet says hello
Hi Jared, I own Canon RP for one year and use it often and Imam pretty sure that it has eye-af in continuous shooting mode and not only in one-shot.
This
You are right, but one shot refers to the autofocus in this case. In "Servo AF" Eye AF is not active...
@@paullambert495 Hi Paul, I just tested with Servo AF and the eye AF is working. Actually I use it always with this setup.
Maybe it is because I use back button focus, so the shutter button does not activate focus and I have to use back button focus. I tried it also with continuous AF and it also works with eye AF, but this drain the battery like a hell, because it focus all the time.
@@michalgric Oh okay, didn't know that, should try that myself, but might be a thing that has been added by update (Jared tested the camera 2 years ago)
I am not a nikon fanboy, and I own a r6, but I don't agree when you bring the "system" argument in this comparison saying that the r5-r6 is better then z6ii-z7ii. First when we talk about system I would thinks its more about the lenses then the bodies. And second, more advanced bodies are released almost early, and we dont't know to much about the pro mirrorless bodies. So their is not a clearer winner yet. It's not sure canon's ecosystem is better yet, but you also say it like its a determined fact, again, just because the r5 and r6 are the better bodies at this moment ... :) the video is great, but I was a bit bothered by that.
I'm a Nikon owner, but I appreciate Canon very much. Anyway, I agree with you. Firmware updates have really changed the game, and now Nikon made the Z6II and Z7II with dual processors. I would assume that makes a difference with what it can do with firmware. I'm very impressed with the Z glass so far.
Nikon shooter here as well. We need both companies to have a healthy competition. I love my Z system, but also envy the current high- end Canon cameras, I hope Nikon will catch up this year.
I shot Canon for 20 years. I then shot a D750 and was hooked by the ergo and super clean ISO-less RAWs. I agonized over the switch, but after 20 years I made it. Point being, it blows me away how quickly these "influencers" and many gearhead photogs switch between systems...
I still have my 5Diii and 7Di and my EF glass though I sold or gifted all the older bodies (film, 10D, 30D). Even then I still use my Canon glass on the Z6 with the Fringer adapter.
That established I totally agree. All of the things the "influencers" yap on about and create drama (clicks) for is algorithms. It's only a matter of time before one leapfrogs over the other for a short while. For example, rumor has it the Z8/Z9 has a global shutter AND those who've used it have said the AF blows away Canon and Sony big time. If even simplified versions of those algos make it into a Z6ii or Z7ii it would be a big deal. But then Canon would try to one up Nikon etc. Competition is good. These influencers are trying to kill the competition which would be bad. Jared is ok but Tony Northrup is by far the worst of them though I really used to enjoy his videos before they were powerpoints.
Like I said I shot Canon for 20 years. Still have most of my glass and I can use all of it on my Z body including some ancient FD lenses with IBIS. It took me 20 years to switch, but if I switched as often as these guys do I'd be broke. Then again when they sell all their gear on eBay those of us who are patient win |)
@@ElGrecoDaGeek The gear I own and spent good money on to do so, is not much compared to yours. I can imagine how difficult that switch was. Just the thought of doing it causes me stress. Yeah, the "influencers" make it sound so easy to do. It's really annoying.
I have the Nikon Z5 and SHE IS A MONSTER! LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great ❤❤❤ Im getting mine tomorrow , so I hope I can learn to use it soon
I have a Z5 and I really like it. Love having 2 cards, love the files that come from the Nikon stuff. I wish I had some of the Z glass, but that’s more on me really.
Just got a Z6II. The 24-70 f4 "kit lens" is really like no other kit lens I've ever experienced. I also got a 50mm 1.8 because they were on sale, and I had a bunch of gift cards. If you like primes, that 50mm outperforms it's price point, imo. Very sharp, it also has nice bokeh. Nikon has some exciting glass on the horizon for us Z mount users.
I just got a z6 I was debating on the rp or the z6 just got the z6 hope I made the right choice by going with Nikon
@@paulhudson7905 I don't know. I'm the only person I know who does any sort of photography anymore. My friends shot Canon, though that was years ago now. So I'm not familiar with current models. I just know I liked how Nikons felt and handled a lot better at the time. To me, eye af isn't everything. I got along fine without it for years. I started doing video with Nikons on the D90 (the first dslr to ever feature video). It had manual focus only on video, and you can see the stuff I shot with it 10-12 years ago on my channel. Low light, color Disney rides were rare back then. Anyway, I have 5 Nikons, though the Z6II is my first full frame. All my old ones still operate perfectly. My D80 is 14 years old, I still use it sometimes. I feel they have a good build quality.
@@Pantheragem I have the D90 and the Z7. I still look at the D90 files and amazed how good they are. The are leagues above any iPhone I have ever seen.
@@NVIK5 By far, totally agree. Any phone really can't compare. I've taken pictures of people with a phone, then with a D80/D90 and old 50mm 1.8 F lens, and showed them. They were usually amazed at how much better they looked in the dslr pic. I still have my D90 with it's battery grip ready to go. That camera with a 30mm Sigma felt like magic to me. Most of what's on my channel was shot with that combo. I may have newer, "better" cameras, but I'm not letting my old Nikons go.
Did you change your video camera? Colors and contrast seem a lot duller.
Not sure if this is outdated info now, but fro did change from using z6's a little while ago to canon cameras
Yeah they film with R5's now rather than Z6's
@@Sporp explains it. Thanks
We are using the R5 and the colors are far from "more duller". Change the browser you're in and see the differences. They all do different color rendering.
@@froknowsphoto I am watching on my 65” TV via the TH-cam Apple TV app. Same as I always have. Watching on my Macbook it looks the same.
I have a Z 50 and a few F- and a Z-mount Nikon lenses, so the decision is an easy one. A Z 5 as my main shooting body and the baby Z 50 as a backup. Thanks for the comparison video.
Just for the record, you can get 4FPS tracking with continuous AF with the RP, and it works just fine (I have one, to be clear). I don't know where Jared is getting "speed priority" and "tracking priority", neither of which is listed in Canon's RP user manual (termed generally as "High Speed" and "Low Speed"). As with any camera, they only list the top end of the range; fps is always and will continue to be affected by other factors such as battery life, flicker mode, lens aperture, etc. So you're not likely to top out at 4FPS for that long, but you CAN get it.
Bought the RP two weeks ago. Then the Z5 went on sale for a grand... total honesty, I'm glad I got the RP. The Z5 is a great camera but just as you suggested I wanted to stick with the Canon ecosystem of gear so based on that I made the right choice, but this video definitely made me think more about which way to go from here on out.
I have an rp and love it as an amateur that is getting back into photography after many years.
I fathered with a T7i last xmas time, then upgraded to rp mid summer when a good deal came along.
I have shot some of my favorite photos since buying it.
I have no regrets.
I have the t7i and upgrading soon to the rp ,, do you see a big difference in terms of quality?
@@noureldin9207 huge
Jared tell me something: how do you exactly invest in the Canon system by buying an outdated RP and a crappy throwaway lens ( you will clearly not buy premium glass for that camera)? So what will remain of your initial purchase if you want to move up? Absolutely nothing will be transferable! You are playing the old Canon game by trying to sell the low-end crap using the high end line specifications, making people believe that they’re in the superior system. The Z5 absolutely massacres the RP and you know that.
Bought the Z5 today!
Yes you did
I just bought one on the way, how has it been?
@Rizvi Rahman yes and Iam very happy!
Considering one of these bad boys 3 years later. Looks like it has held up very well!
Jared what about nikon z50 vs canon m6ii vs sony a6400 vs fujifilm xt30
In my humble opinion, and based on my experience, Nikon Z50 the best in its category.
And in terms of video recording characteristics, comparing it with its competitors, I would summarize it like this:
Nikon Z50:
- The one with the best image quality in APS-C (excellent clarity and sharpness).
- The best low-light performance (very low digital noise level).
- The one with the best viewfinder (large, bright and very sharp).
- The one with the best audio capture (with internal mic).
- The one with the best grip.
Sony A6400:
- The one with the best autofocus (fast and precise).
- Great availability of lenses.
- The one with the best options for post-production.
- The only one that has unlimited video recording (limited only by the battery, of course).
- Fuji XT-30:
- The one with the best colors.
- Great availability of lenses.
Canon M6:
- The one with the best skin tones.
I had the original 6D and it was horrible when boosting the shadows (very common in landscapes and architecture), and someone should have been fired for releasing the 6D2 sensor. The fact that it still exists all these years later in a new body is an insult. Much better sensor in the Nikon.
Jared...
New photographers are lucky... more systems and options...
Sony A7IV - Canon RP (or Canon R) - Panasonic S5 - Nikon Z5 - Leica SL-2
Hy Jared, I shoot Sony for 2 years, if you are talking only about autofocus, Sony is very good, but I just switch back to the Nikon Z system by purchasing the Z6ii. The Sony wasn't good enough for my necessity, I like more the color science and the flexibility of Nikon RAW files that's more important for my and for my way of shooting than all the technological stuff that Sony offers. You were a Nikon shooter and a great photographer I used to follow you but the new Jared I don't like it so much. You once said, the camera is just a tool to express the photographer's ability and skills (something like that). You inspired me to buy my first D3100. Now a days I don't see you anymore like a photographer but more likely a camera dealer. Sorry for now, maybe in the future things will change. All of luck.
I would just point out though that you can get a used z6 in good condition for ~1200 which is better than either of them for my money
Plus allow $1200 for like three memory cards. 😂
Got my Z5 with 40mm F2 lens. IBIS(not mentioned in video) , dual card slots(super important), better camera feel and super quick adjustments, better low light photos, better battery life and top of all that much better affordable lenses. Now that they have improved AF through firmware updates, I have absolutely no issues with AF even in fast action videos. Z5 is clearly best mirrorless full frame camera at sub 1k USD price tag. This camera also makes you feel like you use professional body. If you are not shooting wildlife then Z5 is a go to.
Yeah, the RP is an outdated piece of crap. 1080p only, no IBIS and horrible battery life. The cropped 4k is annoying, but it still looks better than 1080p.
i Personally recomend DSLR for beginners who actually want to learn photography so they can understand exposure without relying on EVF
impo
But isn't it like learning how to write and post letters when the world is moving to emails? ik learning the exposure settings is important, but from here on, everything will be EVF based, so learning for an old system doesn't make any sense?
You can lern guessing the right exposure :)
I'd recommend DSLRs simply because at this time you can get very good bodies for not much money compared to mirrorless cameras.
Dollar for dollar dslr is better bang for your buck with photography in both lenses and bodies. I don't care about video.
I have a canon RP. It’s not as slow as Jared makes it seem. Yes it’s definitely not the fastest by any means but it still ok for beginners or amateurs. I use it professionally, it does great in low light. I don’t shoot video so I really didn’t care about the specs.
Good job!
I love my RP but I do notice the dynamic range issues. I kind of want to get an R but I feel like they will either release an R II or RP II this year so I am going to wait. An R II with IBIS would be amazing.
I think the R II is the R6. There aren't any new new cameras leaked other than the R7. I was able to get an R for $1100 with adapter just I wouldn't wait just jump on it.
@@jimmysyar889 It would be if it had the resolution but it doesn't, they can do the R exactly as it is, remove the touch bar and put a joystick and add IBIS and that would be a great camera.
@@venom5809 people say that touch and drag is better than the joystick. In my mind you get a better “joystick” and a touch bar. They could replace the touch bar with something else but it doesn’t need a joystick as the touch and drag is much better
just jump to Nikon... they don't have dynamic range issues since at least 2007 lol!
I'd wait
The Canon RP does have eye af in servo mode.
Yes. It was added in a firmware update. Must have been after Jared did his review and he didn’t bother to revisit. Shame to hear this outdated info in a new video!
I believe Viltrox already made an 85mm for the Z mount
I recently purchased the Nikon Z6ii. I used to use a Sony A6600. Honestly speaking, I returned the Z6ii in about a week. I tried to use it, but the Nikon Autofocus is nowhere near as good. I was missing focus on 3-4 shots out of every 11-14 photo burst (eye af). I never used to miss even one with the Sony. I have now purchased the A7C with a Tamron 28-75 2.8 and couldn't be happier.
Crap/crop vs full frame
LOVE THE "We'll do it live" reference!!! Thanks yet again for another great informative video!!!
sorry Jared, but you can use any charger to charge Canon RP only it needs to be with PD power delivery. Which is quite common nowadays.
Still strange that they need PD.
@@Lofote Agree, specially for such small battery.
Z5 is the better camera, end of story
Better sensor
Better build quality/weather sealing
Better Evf
Ibis
Dual card slots
Thanks again! Fantastic comparison - just bought the Z5 today with the 24-50mm. Gonna use the FTZ adapter with it so I can still use my F-mount 50mm f/1.8.
Hey how do you like your camera after these years?
I already own the Canon, I have never even considered the Nikon, but it seems nice
Jared, this video is amazing !!!
Hemp Farm 3:10 - Kit Lens AF Z5 can't find face because the AF Mode is on Autofocus Continuous Wide (without the face icon).
You’re thinking of the Z6II & Z7II that now have face icons. We had face detection & eye AF on in the menu with auto area enabled. It’s different in the Z5
@@stepheneckert4006 Yep. You right. I own Z6II Didn't know that.
The EOS RP is so gimped. The Nikon Z5 is way ahead of it in nearly all areas.
The EOS RP costs a lot less than the Nikon Z5. These probably shouldn't even be compared. But my God is stuck so far in the past with providing only a tilting screen that doesn't completely flip over or articulate around. The technology is there and cheap. You can find a $500 camera with one. I truly contemplated stretching my budget to a Z5 after I had it recommended to me for travel photography. But I'd like to not be stuck with my cell phone for selfies in the exotic locations I'll be visiting. Most people don't get to visit these places and I'd like to capture it on more than 12 megapixels.
@@ElectricC0mpany You're right, they're not quite direct peers, really. Although imo the Nikon is worth the extra for the better sensor alone. As for the screen, the fact is that many "serious" stills shooters prefer the Nikon style of articulating screen; it remains on-axis (vertically) which makes composition easier and it looks less unwieldy, and it's also slightly quicker to fold out into position. Not being able to flip it forward is definitely a compromise, but it's a a deliberate choice based on function, not cost
I got a z5 almost a year ago and I should have spent the extra $400 to get a z6.
@@sawyerhaupt why do you say that?
How can we get Canon to make the Silent shutter in Manual for EOS RP? The SCN Scene mode is cool; however, it causes variables in the photos because of the auto mode is activated.
Ok,so Nikon took back the Z6’s you were using(anyone’s guess to why) and Canon gave you a long term loan.
Time to please the patreon.
Canon RP body is $899 now; and newly released Canon RF 50mm 1.8 lens is $199. Might be a good bike trip/hiking set-up. I was a hobby shooter with a darkroom decades ago and I'm ok with a 50mm lens. Retired and looking into something better than my iPhone.
Viltrox made the first AF lens for z system. Its an 85mm 1.8 🙏🙏. Im a nikon shooter but canon is doing big moves with their R5
I am not a professional, just a hobbiest and I am looking to retire my **old** nikon d3000. I am tempted to get the z5 but honestly, I can't afford the lenses for a mirrorless full frame camera right now. So I was thinking that I can get some crop-sensor lenses and just use the adapter on the z5....but from what I understand, putting cropped lenses on a full frame camera, not only causes cropping, but lowers the resolution. Is this true? So I was thinking, hell....maybe just get the nikon d7500 and call it a day. It's affordable and will work well with a couple of extra lenses as well.
Thank you for making this... I really wanted to start getting into photography, and was looking for a camera to purchase. This helped.
If you're purely a photog and don't have any want for video RP. If you want to hybrid and use all the capabilities of a camera Z5. For a starting point just to get a feel for something...well it's a starting point so it doesn't matter overall so go with either and learn the system of that brand and grow from there to a R6 or Z7-II
The Z5 couldn’t track their eyes at the hemp farm because they were just too red 😂🚬
I have the R6 and thinking of buying the RP as my backup
For the price it'll make a great backup camera. To maximise dynamic range, overexpose the image (without blowing out highlights) and then the shadows won't need to be recovered and you just recover the highlights.
I've shot some very high contrast scenes alongside a friend with the EOS R and I can capture everything he can.
Both are great choose after the one that feels the best in the hand and have the lens Lineup (and roadmap) that fits your need and Wallet the best
Z 5 and the images are great. Very pleased. Nice Video.
The RP and R cameras in general are great and worth the money
At 28:00 we can see that your head is blurred... The AF on your Canon seems to be in manual mode ? Why ? Canon AF isn't that good ...? :)
Love the wind tunnel test, you never be able to guess the winner ! :))
I was about buying the Z5, i have compared with Canon RP, yes Z5 was better than RP to my calculation, but....once the price was about higher than what i dreamed...since i was expecting 1000-1200 USD...then i decided of buying Z50 instead, with FTZ, Nikkor 35mm DX 1.8 and Viltrox EFZ Adapter and Canon 24mm f2.8 ...and i am happy...more access to F lenses and EFS lenses...
with the recent sale price, the Z5 at $996 is a great price
Just ordered one! Super excited.
I bought A7III which beats all of the above in every way for less or same money (I paid new one $1300)! But I certainly hope Nikon comes up with some great gear and crushes competition.
😄😄 Enjoy your evf and display on your A7 III 😄😄 and non touchable monitor and horror menus
@@iSirTaki Thank you. I am.
I did the same😅😉🙌
You can't throw A73 in a comparison just because you found that one and only great deal.
That's like if I bought R5 for $1000 from a junkie and said: wow, it beats all of the above in every way for less or same money.
I wanted to get the A7iii cause of the superior AF system but it's a ugly brick looking camera. I know it shouldn't matter but it bothered me.
Z5 now as eye af on the recent update. This 2023 buy z5
I have an 80d that was a gift 4.5 years ago. Last year I bought a d610 to get into full frame. I think I am gonna go back to canon. Thanks for the in depth video Fro!
Excellent round up... As usual! 👍
RP costs a lot less than Z5 over here in Malaysia. Both glasses are pricey, however RP would be great with EF to RF adapter and EF lenses are far more affordable than Nikon AF-S lenses.
You can use EF on Nikon Z with AF adapters (Fringer, Techart, Viltrox).
@@serges yes there's even other brands too. I'm on Z mount already and I am very likely to go that path.
If you're a Nikon shooter - get a Nikon. If you're on Canon team - get a Canon. Simple as that.
And if I'm an APSC Sony user?
@@GiacomoMasciadri If you're not satisfied with Sony, get a Canon.
I found this so helpful. Thanks, Fro!
I have the RP and use continuous EYE AF all the time.
I'm using Nikon D5500 with Nikon 50mm f1.8 and 18-140mm. I want to shift to Nikon Z5 or Z6. I have 2 questions. 1st which camera body I should go for?
2nd. As I said 2 Nikon lens I have its good to buy Z5 with FTZ and use my 50mm 1.8 or buy Viltrox 85mm f1.8?
I only use camera for family portrait and landscape photos only. No video at all.
Dont have lots of budget. Please help to choose with camera body and lens I should go far. Many thanks.
I"m in a similar posiioin with D5300 and 3 lenses...if you don't mind me asking, what did you decide?
Same thing. D5600 with 2 lens. I'm tempted to go for the z5. But I don't mind going to another brand new or used
Love how you bring this down to an elementary level to address a newbie audience. Okay, sometimes all the way to preschool 😂
Was thinking the same thing. My first reaction was "why explain THIS, obviously everyone watching this video knows what xxxxx is...", but a few moments later i thought that no, everyone starts at some point and there are definitely going to be complete newbies watching this, wanting to learn. If anything, MORE things should be explained in simpler manner by pros reviewing stuff.
@@DobromirManchev I agree to a certain extent. If you don’t know what someone is talking about, learn. We all had to do it at some point. I couldn’t watch the whole video because of how dumbed down it is. I just want to find a video that will tell me if the Canon RP is just a full frame M50. I have the M50 and I don’t care for it for stills. I need an upgrade and am on a budget. I am saving for lenses and a decent body but if it’s just “ ok” ( the RP) , I will go with something else. I don’t like to do a whole lot in post.
Jared do a video about nikon z50 vs nikon z5 vs z6 vs z7
Just saw Viltrox 85 review for Z mount the other day.
Where?
@@vimal.moments Also available for RF, Christopher Frost did one on it
Just need Tamron to throw their epic glass to the Z mount and watch Nikon come back alive!
@@vimal.moments th-cam.com/video/gpgiT099Hu0/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=RichardWong
@@coltoncyr2283 I hope so because the Tamron and Sigma native lens selection is probably the biggest advantage for Sony and enthusiast at the moment.
Still rocking the RP. Saving up some money for some Sigma RF glass one day.
Hey Jared. Can you please do a zoom in while tracking a subject. I know the Sony system could not even get 1 focused photo when a test was done awhile back.. But I have not seen someone do a comparison on the Nikon, Sony and Canon. While zooming in or out while tracking a subject. That will be great to see.
If the evaluation is related to Canon system I do understand, but if specific to the camera I do not agree also summing your checkmarks given to Z5! I think that you are too much biased by the autofocus performance of Nikon System that is clear is behind the competition BUT AUTOFOCUS IS NOT ALL THE STORY! It depends on the kind of photography you do (for landscape is much more important quality of lens and quality of files) and even for portraits I see a lot of professional where they focus on manual (Karl Taylor for example that by the way uses Canon!). Seems to me more a problem you had with Nikon Corp... You prefer Canon is ok but if you want to make reviews that seems neutral but are not neutral... That's our problem!
Never regret went to Z5. Its very beautiful little beast, combine with one of sharpest 50mm lens on the world.
Which one is that?
Canon rp all the way ! Had it since launch, favourite camera I’ve ever had
I don't know Jared. I feel like Nikon and Canon are creating choice overload to the point where a decision is becoming impossible. I thought I was happy with my purchase of the Canon T7i for an introduction camera but now I just don't know....there are better options now at almost the same price. Just wait another 10min and a even better option. The cycle is endless.
Really like the fact your videos are thorough, provide critical context, and earnestly state how the gear world looks from where you stand. I also appreciate the fact you make it clear the perspective you speak from. I have a Z6, am pleased with it so far, and believe I have a lot to learn before I get the best it has to offer. I am thankful for the remarkable advances Sony and Canon have brought to market and believe it will ultimately benefit most customers. My camera has always been good, but (with firmware updates) is a much better camera now than when I purchased it 15 months ago. I am hopeful the Z6II, Z7II, and newer bodies Nikon introduces get updates that put them on par with Sony and Canon in the eye focus and movement tracking area. It feels like they are getting close.
I agree with your slight sliver on the lens selection to cannon. I will add however that the zmount beats the rf technically. the wider ring means that future lenses can be be made faster and lighter since they can skip a lot of the extra glass needed to bend light from a large lens to the sensor area. it also means wide angle lenses can have a higher max sharpness.
Of course, that also depends on the lenses taking advantage of the strengths of the z mount. Time will tell how the ecosystem evolves. Being technically superior doesn't always guarantee success.. Look at Betamax
Viltrox already made 85mm 1.8 Z mount.
Have a Nikon D500 and a handful of Nikon DX lenses (nikon and Sigma) trying to decide if I go with a Z5 (and at least be able to use the DX lenses in crop with the FTZ) or start over....
Z5 is a better camera in almost everything, except it weights almost 1.5 times more than RP, and has giant nikon 50/1.8 which cost 3 times more than canon tiny 50/1.8.
That is why I bought RP besides the price was the same.
I just bought mine great camera
You can't compare Nikkor 50mm 1.8S with Canon's crap nifty fifty. Nikkor is so much better optically. There is also 40mm F2 lens if sizes matter. Tiny and ideal for travel. You sound like sizes are the most important one when choosing camera. WTH just. Z5 kills RP in every aspect except size difference and you take that one aspect?
@@Blitz_Shorts Well, I bought compact camera, of course size is important.
As for nikon 50/1.8S, not interested. This is the price and size of 50/1.4, not f1.8
@@dimakor5914 Nikon Z 50mm 1.8S outperforms all DSLR 1.4 lenses and current all 1.8 lenses of other manufacturers. Just don't tell about price is high, it's more than justified price of the quality you get.
@@Blitz_Shorts f1.8 can't outperform f1.4 lens, it is almost a full stop darker.
I would rather buy sony and samyang 50/1.4
Nikon z6 or Canon R6?
Z6II ....and cant ask Fro, you know the answer is Canon :D
R6
Nikon Z6
@@Ionut...Padureanu I agree..but if you dont do video, Z5 is perfect. If video is included, Z6/Z6II i must.
The RP supports UHS-II cards - in which case you really will never outrun the buffer!
You forgot IBIS in the Z5. Very big deal!
Video length is perfect great information.
Which one would you suggest Nikon z5 or Canon 90D.
The Z5 is the clear winner. It's better than the RP in every way except for the lack of screen articulation...and you can always work around that with a monitor.
Ended review for me at 2:18 - "because they are priced very similarly"??????? 40% more is not "very similar"ly. I own the RP and it's a fantastic body for $1000. For $1400 I would expect a lot more than the Zed5 offers. There are a few thing not many shooters will miss, but not a deal breaker for a grand. The RP does have focus bracketing and a flexible priority mode (has become my favorite - quick and easy on the fly). It's a very under-rated camera. Most that dis it haven't even shot with it!
@Photo Bunny Those Nikon lenses are cheap for a reason! For the record the average price of the 16 Nikon Z lenses is $1621, the average price of the 17 Canon RF lenses is $1641 - hardly a difference. Any of the the RF lenses can take fantastic photo's if the photographer is capable. IBIS is overrated - have you ever shot back in the film days? It's amazing to me how many "photographers" need crutches these days to take decent images! Refer back to the last sentence of my original comment.
Thanks for the postal! The funny think, I retire from IBM and you sent me picture of a IBM typewriter ball head. That was funny.
If yall were in college, would you take the opportunity to take proper photography classes, or would you prefer just raw experience
Taking a photography class was a big deal for me in college. I would do it if you can
I always like to go raw!
¿Por que no los dos? xd
i dont want to be a fanboy but the nikon is way better in dynamic range, just for that, for me i would go nikon
Great video. Thanks. I have the RP and it's OK. Its not great, but stretches me at my level.
Been a Nikon for years, But now i am looking at Cannon now. Reason being Nikon never puts anything on sale were as Cannon does. And I do spend quite a bit on accessories, Lens, bags, straps etc... and Cannon always has some kind of deal going on.
I was waiting for this