As someone who is using a R8 now and had a R10, I definitely recommend the R8 if budget allows. The High ISO performance in R8 is MUCH better than the R10. I was getting more noise at ISO1600 in the R10 than ISO6400 in the R8. I did like the shutter sound on R10 more than that on the R8 tho, it's so much more snappy!
@@MusabTahaTarik The price gap should have closed a bit with the summer sale going on now. I would say it's worth it, but everybody's financial situation is different.
Jared should call this channel Canon Polin lol. The amount of canon marketing in these videos are unwatchable while there is no panasonic, Fuji, hasselblad, leica, Om system....
I was just gifted an R100 (which I know is not "pro-level" but has been a wonderful start) for my birthday a couple of weeks ago and picked up a Canon RF 55-210 as a starter zoom lens for it. I've enjoyed finding my way back to photography so much that I've been debating what to choose as my camera to grow into as I certainly want to keep going. I was having a tough time choosing between the R7 and R8 as cost is factor for me so this will involve some saving, but as someone that is loving wildlife and outdoor photography this has cemented my decision to put the R7 on my wish list along with the Canon RF 100-400 lens. Thank you for the excellent breakdown, and being willing to toss in some explanation for beginners like me when doing a comparison like this.
@@mvp_kryptonite good advice! I've spent 8 years on a T6i and got a 55 250 for it. Your kit is already really good and youll find much more improvement in actuslly taking pics, instead of going for newer equipment.
@@mvp_kryptonite I mentioned saving, we're talking the idea of upgrading for me being at least a year out if not longer at the costs involved. I'm a single parent with only my own income to consider, so without being gifted my current kit I wouldn't be getting back into this hobby again at all. I don't plan to rush an upgrade, just give myself something to work toward and rough goal of how much I'll need to invest in order to do so. As far as regular shooting for practice, I've been doing so daily for the few weeks I've had my current camera and have planned several trips in the area for the summer in order to continue to do so. Hyperfocus is a powerful thing, especially when I have a target to aim for. :)
17:26 The viewfinder magnification is measured with a 50 mm lens (RF 50 mm f/1.2 to be specific) and they do not consider the crop factor so crop sensors naturally have larger magnifications. In the real life you would use a shorter focal length on crop which reduces the image. You got the R7 and R10 mixed. The R10 has 0.95x and the R7 1.15. The R8 has 0.7x but if you adjust with the crop factor it would be the same as with R7.
Hi Jared! Thanks to your videos I felt confident in buying two Canon R8 Bodies this past cyber Monday from Canon refurbished for $999 per body! After shooting on my first camera, 70D, for the last 9 years, and it’s been an absolute gamechanger for my photography! Lowlight Image quality, AF, and Full Frame sensor have been worth it in my experience. Thanks again!
I, too, just upgraded from the RP to the R8. It has everything i loved about my RP with an awesome, much improved AF, Processor and sensor. Can still use my grip and batteries etc. For me, it’s the best relatively affordable full frame camera. The RP was more camera than i needed i suppose but the R8 i just wanted, not needed! 😂 Love it!
Maybe I missed it but you didn't talk about overheating with the R8 which just doesn't happen with the R7. That's a huge data point for people to look at.
I have a r8 and r7. Photo quality and low light wise, I like the r8 much better but for everything else, I like the r7. The dual card slot and bigger battery in the r7 really gives me a peace of mind.
I’m so happy you made this guide! I just wish you made this one when I was trying to decide between R8 and R7 last year. I’ve enjoyed my R7 though, I’ve been shooting sports and enjoying the little bit of extra reach.
One thing though is many may be upgrading. If they have an APS-C Canon and a few lenses, they have to think about replacing those if they move to the R8. Many EF and EF-S lenses (especially some 3rd party lenses) are very good and only a EF-RF adapter is needed rather than spending another $500-5000+ on lenses.
Thank you JARED! I was working on a buy list for my yearbook students and I put all three of these cameras on the list. Definitely going to have to use this video as a reference for the future now. Thank you! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@@MS10x Im going to assume your budget is in USD. If your only focus is photography get the canon RP. Its an alright photo camera. But if you plan on doing any video id look at picking up something from sony's a6000 lineup
Same her for R6 ii: The R6 ii was 40% more expensive but it gives me (1) bigger battery, (2) sensor image stabilization (EF and stone age FD is used), dual card slots (for more important projects if I will come to this level). R6 ii was important for me to be future proof in terms of video. And it is really a beast of a camera especially in terms of operability and image quality. ~20 MPix are o.k for my needs and non-perfect lenses shine on that resolution ;)
I use R8 for 6 months now for journalism photography and videography it's a beast missing the mechanical shutter and th e bigger battery but overall it's Wonderful camera with a good price
Love my R8 really can't see any reason I'd need anything better aside from extra megapixels for cropping in, but for that kind of stuff I still have my old 200D on standby anyway as it's got 24.2MP but is a crop sensor
Great for you! But when you learn more and want to try more types of photography you realize sometimes your gear holds you back. E.g. if you try wildlife photography with your camera you will quickly learn that a faster burst would help.
I WATCHED this entire clip and it really helped in my decision on which Canon R camera to purchase. I appreciate your help and so do my students! (I will use your affiliate link to purchase). THANKS!
I debated between and r8 and am r6II, ultimately choosing the r6II. The r8 seems like a great camera for the price, but only 6fps with a first curtain electronic shutter when the others get 15 mechanical always seemed weird to me. They basically just took the rp physical traits and added the r6II sensor and processor, while leaving so many things the same. Still a great value full frame camera.
The IBIS in the R7 pays for itself by letting me use ultra-sharp non-stabilized lenses, like the EF 24-70 f/2.8L II and the EF 200mm f/2.8L II, which I could never have been able to afford before. I find the omission of IBIS from the R8 a classic example of the Canon "cripple-hammer."
I wouldn't cripple a 24mm with a crop sensor. Id rather not having IBIS than wasting that beautiful angle of view. For the tele is ok though, I've considering buying a 300 2.8 for a crop camera.
@@user-vj9qw6ok1b So get an R6 MK II - full frame 24mp with IBIS. That's what I did (i have that and the R7). I just don't think the R8's omission of IBIS makes any sense - whatever you save on the R8 versus the R6 II will be more than made up by having to pay for optically-stabilized lenses for the R8.
@@philiprolenick4475 well, yes, but R6II wasn't in the equation before. We were talking about R8 and R7. Of course I believe R6II is better than both, unless you're mainly a tele user. In your case, you're completely covered.
Thank Jared, I`ve spent hours and hours trying to find the right camera that I can afford..Canon R8 is what i`m going to buy. Thank you, this video has really helped me decide. Landscape and cityscape`s is what I want to shoot.
Having held the r8 it's unbelievably light and well built, cant believe its a fullframe. With a 35mm you have a compact powerhouse blowing any fuji overpriced apsc out of the water on af and low light
Amazing video, thank you so much. I just found your channel. I’m looking to upgrade for my canon M 50 with a 22 mm prime lens for my TH-cam channel. It is just too laggy going through the Cannon EOS WebCam utility app to stream yard. I need something better with a HDMI out. That is an upgrade if I’m going to spend the money. Do you think the R8 would be a good option for me or should I be looking at something else?
I’ve bought the R8 as my second body and i haven’t had any issues because only has one card slot. Is a great camera and for traveling I couldn’t recommend it enough! With a small lens like the 50 1.8 or the 28 2.8 is a great travel combo. Great for portraits with the 85 2.0 and 1.2. Check marks to Canon for a great camera
thank you so much Jared! I've been looking into the R Canon cameras to upgrade from my EOS 250D to get into sports photography (to not waste tons of money on EF glass when eventually I'll be switching to a higher end R body) so this comparison comes in very handy
So I have the R100 and its great by the way! When tax season comes around, I feel like after watching this video, the R7 is just the sweet spot for what I'm looking for and budget! Ty for video man!
I got 2 R7s. Shit changed my life. I love it. I know High ISO is a thing to consider for some, but honestly I never over 800 ISO and it's no big deal. Awesome unit!
Actually the R7 is a whole lot better in low light than people realize. I used the Canon 6D as my night camera all the way up until the R7 release. It just about matches the full frame 6D. I shoot the R7 at iso 3200 on a regular basis with no issues...
Well, seeing your dilemma, I'd recommend thinking again. It's like deciding between a Mustang and a F150. It's clear you don't understand very well the specs of those cameras or the kind of photography you intend to make. Wildlife/sports: R7. Landscapes/portraits: R8. If you intend to use wide angle lenses: R8. Telephoto lenses: R7. Both can do everything, but they will shine more in different kinds of photography.
I am interested in wildlife, landscapes and portraits, I admit it is a bit complicated :) ↕️I don't go to very high ISO, but I like to take photos at night. If I buy an r8 and use it with a 100-400mm lens, will it be successful in wildlife? @@user-vj9qw6ok1b
I have a 700D/T5i and want to upgrade it. I want my camera for landscape and portrait photos, and also do be able to shoot on 4K (to pair with my Dji Pocket 3). I mainly film myself playing piano. I'm aiming at the R8, but the other lenses will become useless, and my budget isn't that high (I have a nifty fifty, 18-135mm and 10-18mm). Do you think it's worth the change or go to an R10? Thanks all.
What about R7 vs a6700? Would that be a more solid comparison? I'd love to hear that. I know you did a preview on it, but never a full review yet. The R10 is pretty old, and the R8 is full frame… So they're not really that comparable with the R7...??? Also, canon only opened up their lenses for APSC… Not for full frame. So that's kind of a big deal.
I am interested in wildlife, landscapes and portraits, I admit it is a bit complicated :) ↕️I don't go to very high ISO, but I like to take photos at night. If I buy an r8 and use it with a 100-400mm lens, will it be successful in wildlife?
I just picked up in R8. Mostly doing night time landscape photography astrophotography. My battery went flat while I was out shooting the moon so I plugged in a power brick. It wouldn't charge while I was shooting so for some reason it doesn't appear to have pass-through charging with an external battery. I haven't tried pass through charging with a 110 volt wall plug yet
Thank you for this video. I’m currently back and forth between the r6 MK II and the r8. I was looking at a bundle for the r8 that includes the 24-50mm lens, but I hear that lens isn’t that great. Would you recommend just buying the body and then getting a better lens later? The r6 MK II on the other hand has a bundle with the 24-105 mm lens which seems much better. Any recommendations on what I should do in this situation?
Both those kit lenses suck. If you love yourself, don't get any of the kit lenses with these cameras. Check these affordable lenses out instead: The most affordable set: 24mm 1.8 IS (Wide) 50mm 1.8 (Standard/Portrait/Versatile) 100-400mm IS(Telephoto Zoom) More expensive but much better set: 85mm f2 IS (Portraits) 100-400 IS (Telephoto Zoom) 35mm f1.8 IS (Standard/Versatile) 16mm 2.8 (Only if you need the ultra wide) *For your info* 50 vs 85mm: 85mm is better for portraits, has better IQ and is also stabilized but 50mm is more versatile. 35mm vs 50mm: 35mm has slightly better IQ, and also image stabilization but portraits are better on the 50mm) Wide: Do your research on the 16mm 2.8, 24mm 1.8 IS, and 28mm 2.8 I have the R8 with the 24, 50, and 100-400 lenses. If I had a bigger budget, I would much rather get the 16,35,85, and 100-400 and I still might upgrade to these one day. But these are all still really good lenses. Even the cheapest 50mm is pretty sharp compared to the older EF 50mm. But whatever you do, don't get the kit lenses.
I could never get used to the 'left hand under the lens' way of holding a camera even back in film days. Turns my let wrist to an uncomfortable position. And it's not all that stable either. My left hand holds the lens from the side. That way my hand and wrist are comfortable and I have full smooth use of whatever ring controls that are on the lens. With the hand underneath I have to loosen my grip to get full ring movement which is important for doing zooms. Way smoother zooms with my left hand holding the lens on the side.
I just have a sincere question... Does the first curtain electronic shutter prevent flickering in photos like if you are using mechanical shutter?? I want a R6 MK2 or maybe the new r5 MK2 just for the mechanical shutter... If the first curtain eliminate the flickering... I'm ok with the R8 for indoor events...
I’m still loving my 6Dmk2, but videos like this pushing me closer to jumping on the R-train! I’ve got 5 lenses tho, so will live in adapterland for awhile.
If all your lenses are EF, you will have a good time. The problem arises when you have a mix of RF & EF glass and trying to remember which EF glass had the adaptor is so annoying in the field.
If all your lenses are EF, you will have a good time. The problem arises when you have a mix of RF & EF glass and trying to remember which EF glass had the adaptor is so annoying in the field.
My first camera was a SL3, I bought last fall a R8 upon your comparison video. I couldnt be happier. Great timing, Im currently looking to get an APSC, either R7 or R10 :D
ive been using sl3 for almost 3 years. Its my first and only camera rn. Im shooting pretty much everything but i have problems when i shoot sports and that kind of stuff you know. And also i love that advantage of 1.6 crop factor. R7 has cropped sensor and an IBIS which is great too. Thats why i was thinking about getting an r7. However, r8 have way better low light capabilites and faster readout speed compared to r7. But r7 has 15fps mechanical shutter which is great but slow readout speed means i couldnt use electronic shutter in sports, can I ? Then i think about getting an a7iii which has about the same price as r7 and r8 but i hardly get an EF 70-200 2.8 is ii usm. I have 18-55, 50 1.8 and 55-250 too. How am i supposed to switch from canon to sony? Im really confused
Dumb question but is there difference in photo and video quality the higher up one goes? Like would a ZV e10 have the same level of detail as an R8 or is it just paying for more features and better low light?
most cameras have the same detail like if your getting a £6000 camera like the r3 that will have better detail compared to the zve10 but the r8 does have really good low light but Sony are just better at lowlight so the ZV e10 is about the same as the r8. considering the zve10 is a crop sensor camera so not as many megapixels.
Jared dumbing down the check mark 🤣 big fan of these comparison videos, I recently upgraded to the R10 as I mainly shoot wildlife and I’m enjoying the 15fps mechanical. My old RP did have good iso performance though as that’s a full frame sensor.
Which one would be better for Real Estate photography in a budget with video capabilities? I am having trouble to decide between the R7 and R10. Any comments highly appreciated!
Yus! Another video for confirmation bias 😂 Jk dude the comments section gets too serious. I genuinely love these and they have been greatly informative me over the years. Thanks again Jared!
I always keep two cameras, I have both the R8 and R7. Both great. I also have a Fujifilm X-T2 and four of the WR lenses. Also great…. I guess that’s three now….
I find the lcd screen is better since I can touch the area I want to focus on, when using the viewfinder you have no idea which area you're focusing on and ruins lots of pictures
I’ve been trying to figure out, where to go from my R. If the R8 took the same batteries, it would be a no brainer. I don’t feel like breaking the bank, but I want better auto focus. Might have to be the 5c.
R10 if you're on a budget but want decent performance and IQ, R8 if you do video, and R7 if you do 4k video and/or wildlife/sports photograph (which it can obviously do other things too). The one disappointment perhaps for the R8 is the lack of IBIS, considering the cheaper Nikon Z5 can do pretty mcuh the same thing (although 4k is cropped) and the Z6 II was only $500 more (MSRP) but has many more features including 2 card slots and IBIS among other things. I mean the R8 has some features the other don't like the variable rate shutter speed (this is found, obviously, on higher-end Nikon cameras like the Z8 and Z9 although it's called "high frequency flicker reduction" or something like that which just changes the readout timing since there is no mechanical shutter on the Z8/Z9). The card redundancy for me almost has become a must (after losing photos in the past due to card failure) plus having overflow is nice too for widlife and other instances where you may be shooting a lot of bursts and may run out of space on a single card (although for me, I just carry extra cards but still use redundancy). I guess it's one of those things that IF you've l ost photos to a card failure in the past, you sort of never forget about and it becomes (for some) almost a necessity in bodies moving forward. That being said, if it was a single CFE/XQD slot I might feel a little better as they are less prone to issues in my experience than SD cards.
Im trying to decide between an r10 with the 18-150mm kit lens or the r8 it's my first interchangeable lens camera so I'd still need to get a lens for the r8. I'd mainly want to do wildlife and macro photography as well as take pictures of plastic models which I heard the r10 would be better with but I'd also like to use the camera for other purposes sometimes like landscapes and full frame seems better for that kind of photography. I'd appreciate any input here I seriously cant decide.
The R7 and R6 II are your targets. Both have pre capture, both have modern auto focus (the R6, 10, and 8 do not) both use professional processors (the R6, 10, and 8 do not) and both have in body stabilization.
@@robertmueller6979 thanks for the advice! I actually went with the r10 with the 18-45 kit lens as I got it for a steal during a Canon refurb sale. I'm not gonna lie I bet I'd like the nice features of the r7 like a better buffer and af system but I'm perfectly happy with the r10s performance so far. I just couldn't justify the jump in my mind as I'm a complete noob but I'm thinking down the line if I stick with the hobby I'll look into whatever the modern equivalent of those models will be then.
I had an R8 - but the Canon cripple hammer - in the likes of no (or now, very limited) 3rd party lenses as well as HAVING to buy only CANON batteries (WAY more expensive than 3rd party), led me to sell it and move to a Panasonic S5ii - WAY better camera in many ways. IBIS, 2 card slots - great ergonomics, etc. Just a joy to hold and use.
Im trying to upgrade from a Nikon D7000, and based on my budget and performance; I was hoping the R8 would be my next lens. I have not heard much about the Lumix S5ii
@@CVPhotography758 The R8 is a good camera - you'd be happy with it. But Canon has a way of thumbing their noses at their customers - there have been many examples over the years of Canon deliberately crippling various features of various cameras - sometimes they would hear folks complaints and fix the issues, but most times not. For me, again (biut this is after suffering thru other issues for many years), it's Canon not allowing 3rd party lenses (though again, they have changed their mind on this, but only to a limited extent), and then what pushed me over the edge was when I bought 3rd party batteries, which I know normally work (they are good quality), and the camera reported some kind of error. That meant I'd have to spend $70 per battery for "real" Canon batteries, as opposed to maybe $10 to $20 for 3rd party bateries - and - of course that situation was made even worse by Canon choosing to use a VERY small battery on the R8 in the first place, which essentialy forces a person to have a couple spares just to get thru a day of shooting. So I tok that $150 and spent it on a Panasonic camera instead. Anyway, even though I've owned several Canon cameras and thought I'd be a customer for life, I just couldn't take it any more, and switched brands. It's just tragic that Canon chooses to treat their customers so badly.
@@Bill-NM I'd get the S5II if the support was there in my country, but I'm 80% settling on the R8. It may have the cripple hammer all over it, but coming from a 250D, it will definitely be an upgrade. The stuff I'd be 'missing' was never stuff I was crying for anyways. I wanted the R7 initially, but I honestly want to move to full frame. Still, let's see how I feel by Black Friday. 😅 Though S5II is absolutely a beauty! I'd get that in a heartbeat if the money was there to straight up buy the camera and lenses (and not have to depend on a converter for my EF lenses)
I was torn between the R7 and the R8 bodies. Because I have some good glass that I use on my 5D Mark three. I really wanted to have two card readers or slots for two cards which would’ve given me the R7 but because of the poor battery life of both cameras, as I have done with my previous cameras that I still own, I wanted a battery grip that will hold two batteries and that battery problem will be solved. But no one seems to make a battery grip for the R7 so I ordered the R8 only to realize that in order to get to the memory card you have to take off the entire grip because the card slot is at the bottom of the camera. I personally think that is a terrible design and one that you would normally only find on point and shoot cameras to the best of my knowledge. So if anyone does know a company that makes a battery grip for the R7 please leave me a message. Thank you.
The R7 and R6 II are your targets. Both have pre capture, both have modern auto focus (the R6, 10, and 8 do not) both use professional processors (the R6, 10, and 8 do not) and both have in body stabilization.
PLEASE HELP ME! Im a 20 year old guy just getting more into photography/videography(I shoot photos/videos both, I shoot portraits, candids for brands,etc) I currently have Canon M6 mii with a 16mm and 50mm ef and im really confused between r6mii and r8. The main thing is the extra money that i save with r8 i can invest in a lot of lens options! But if i buy r6mii im done and dusted there, so what should i do, r8 and a few lenses or get to the flagship r6mii?
The R7 would be a beast if Canon put a better sensor in it and upped the build quality a tad. Everything else about it is pretty darn good. But that sensor - ugh. For the price point it's good. But noisy. Especially if you push the DR even a little bit. And unpredictable terrible rolling shutter. I'm sure in another year they'll have a MkII version. Has a great AF system once it's tweaked a little. Put a good L lens on it and it gets some amazing shots.
Great comparison - thanks very much. I am looking to buy either R7 or R10. The built-in flash seems really important yes? I don't want to lug around an other bit of kit (external flash), or is that no big deal?
I have the R10 and my camera tell me that my buffer is 13 pictures in raw in H+ mode(I've tested and it slow down after around 15 frames). Does anyone know I can get the 29 raw files in mechanical burst mode ?
Quick correction: R10 CAN do 1/16000 in electronic shutter
12:49 quick note, the r10 shutter speed on electronic shutter is actually capped at 1/16000 instead of 1/4000 as mentioned in the video
They overlooked that fact, probably because the feature depend on the mode set.
if it's anything like the m62 sensor, super high shutter speeds become susceptible to scanlines because of the slowness of the sensor read out.
As someone who is using a R8 now and had a R10, I definitely recommend the R8 if budget allows. The High ISO performance in R8 is MUCH better than the R10. I was getting more noise at ISO1600 in the R10 than ISO6400 in the R8. I did like the shutter sound on R10 more than that on the R8 tho, it's so much more snappy!
I cant justify the 2x price difference
@@MusabTahaTarik The price gap should have closed a bit with the summer sale going on now. I would say it's worth it, but everybody's financial situation is different.
@@MusabTahaTarik you can get a good condition used r7 for 1000 dollars
Jared should call this channel Canon Polin lol. The amount of canon marketing in these videos are unwatchable while there is no panasonic, Fuji, hasselblad, leica, Om system....
@@f.iph7291 Cuz he shoots canon bro. And canon is superior, we all know that
I was just gifted an R100 (which I know is not "pro-level" but has been a wonderful start) for my birthday a couple of weeks ago and picked up a Canon RF 55-210 as a starter zoom lens for it. I've enjoyed finding my way back to photography so much that I've been debating what to choose as my camera to grow into as I certainly want to keep going. I was having a tough time choosing between the R7 and R8 as cost is factor for me so this will involve some saving, but as someone that is loving wildlife and outdoor photography this has cemented my decision to put the R7 on my wish list along with the Canon RF 100-400 lens. Thank you for the excellent breakdown, and being willing to toss in some explanation for beginners like me when doing a comparison like this.
i've this exact R7+RF 100 400mm and it is amazing!
Best to master your current kit. Find the body and lens limitations before you upgrade
@@mvp_kryptonite good advice! I've spent 8 years on a T6i and got a 55 250 for it. Your kit is already really good and youll find much more improvement in actuslly taking pics, instead of going for newer equipment.
@@mvp_kryptonite I mentioned saving, we're talking the idea of upgrading for me being at least a year out if not longer at the costs involved. I'm a single parent with only my own income to consider, so without being gifted my current kit I wouldn't be getting back into this hobby again at all. I don't plan to rush an upgrade, just give myself something to work toward and rough goal of how much I'll need to invest in order to do so.
As far as regular shooting for practice, I've been doing so daily for the few weeks I've had my current camera and have planned several trips in the area for the summer in order to continue to do so. Hyperfocus is a powerful thing, especially when I have a target to aim for. :)
I have that exact combo. It's great! For the best "cheap" full frame the R6 II is a winner as well.
17:26 The viewfinder magnification is measured with a 50 mm lens (RF 50 mm f/1.2 to be specific) and they do not consider the crop factor so crop sensors naturally have larger magnifications. In the real life you would use a shorter focal length on crop which reduces the image.
You got the R7 and R10 mixed. The R10 has 0.95x and the R7 1.15. The R8 has 0.7x but if you adjust with the crop factor it would be the same as with R7.
Hi Jared! Thanks to your videos I felt confident in buying two Canon R8 Bodies this past cyber Monday from Canon refurbished for $999 per body! After shooting on my first camera, 70D, for the last 9 years, and it’s been an absolute gamechanger for my photography! Lowlight Image quality, AF, and Full Frame sensor have been worth it in my experience. Thanks again!
I'm literally just upgrading from the 60D that I got new on release. Crazy!
I, too, just upgraded from the RP to the R8. It has everything i loved about my RP with an awesome, much improved AF, Processor and sensor. Can still use my grip and batteries etc.
For me, it’s the best relatively affordable full frame camera.
The RP was more camera than i needed i suppose but the R8 i just wanted, not needed! 😂 Love it!
Same exact thing here🤣
Now I'm not a pro but a pro max photographer 😎
Maybe I missed it but you didn't talk about overheating with the R8 which just doesn't happen with the R7. That's a huge data point for people to look at.
I have a r8 and r7.
Photo quality and low light wise, I like the r8 much better but for everything else, I like the r7. The dual card slot and bigger battery in the r7 really gives me a peace of mind.
I’m so happy you made this guide! I just wish you made this one when I was trying to decide between R8 and R7 last year. I’ve enjoyed my R7 though, I’ve been shooting sports and enjoying the little bit of extra reach.
Many check marks for Jared for comparing cameras!!!!!
One thing though is many may be upgrading. If they have an APS-C Canon and a few lenses, they have to think about replacing those if they move to the R8. Many EF and EF-S lenses (especially some 3rd party lenses) are very good and only a EF-RF adapter is needed rather than spending another $500-5000+ on lenses.
Thank you JARED!
I was working on a buy list for my yearbook students and I put all three of these cameras on the list.
Definitely going to have to use this video as a reference for the future now. Thank you! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
I bought a Canon R8 for traveling...I absolutely love it!
Can you suggest a budget camera around 500- 600 usd for traveling ?
@@MS10x Im going to assume your budget is in USD. If your only focus is photography get the canon RP. Its an alright photo camera. But if you plan on doing any video id look at picking up something from sony's a6000 lineup
@@XavierBaker thank you buddy
I got the R6 based on your R6 vs R6 MK II vs R8 video you posted last year. It's my favorite canon camera I've ever owned.
Same her for R6 ii: The R6 ii was 40% more expensive but it gives me (1) bigger battery, (2) sensor image stabilization (EF and stone age FD is used), dual card slots (for more important projects if I will come to this level).
R6 ii was important for me to be future proof in terms of video.
And it is really a beast of a camera especially in terms of operability and image quality. ~20 MPix are o.k for my needs and non-perfect lenses shine on that resolution ;)
I got the R8, no regrets :)
@@energieinfo21R6 and R6 2 use the same battery, and they both have dual card slot... What's your point, lol?
@@partygremlin2675 R6 type camer compared to R8. That was the main point. R6 ii won because of enhanced video specs.
@@partygremlin2675 when it comes to auto focus the R6 II wins hands down. When things are moving fast the original R6 just can't compare.
I went with the R10 as it was better suited for my needs and budget. Great comparison video.
I use R8 for 6 months now for journalism photography and videography it's a beast missing the mechanical shutter and th e bigger battery but overall it's Wonderful camera with a good price
I agree
Does it overheat quickly?
Love my R8 really can't see any reason I'd need anything better aside from extra megapixels for cropping in, but for that kind of stuff I still have my old 200D on standby anyway as it's got 24.2MP but is a crop sensor
Great for you! But when you learn more and want to try more types of photography you realize sometimes your gear holds you back. E.g. if you try wildlife photography with your camera you will quickly learn that a faster burst would help.
My R10 will shoot at 1/16,000 shutter speed in electronic mode. Maybe it was increased in one of the firmware updates.
I WATCHED this entire clip and it really helped in my decision on which Canon R camera to purchase. I appreciate your help and so do my students! (I will use your affiliate link to purchase). THANKS!
“The R7 is a little bit more chodier.”
Bro, that killed me 😂😂😂
I debated between and r8 and am r6II, ultimately choosing the r6II.
The r8 seems like a great camera for the price, but only 6fps with a first curtain electronic shutter when the others get 15 mechanical always seemed weird to me.
They basically just took the rp physical traits and added the r6II sensor and processor, while leaving so many things the same.
Still a great value full frame camera.
The IBIS in the R7 pays for itself by letting me use ultra-sharp non-stabilized lenses, like the EF 24-70 f/2.8L II and the EF 200mm f/2.8L II, which I could never have been able to afford before. I find the omission of IBIS from the R8 a classic example of the Canon "cripple-hammer."
I wouldn't cripple a 24mm with a crop sensor. Id rather not having IBIS than wasting that beautiful angle of view. For the tele is ok though, I've considering buying a 300 2.8 for a crop camera.
@@user-vj9qw6ok1b So get an R6 MK II - full frame 24mp with IBIS. That's what I did (i have that and the R7). I just don't think the R8's omission of IBIS makes any sense - whatever you save on the R8 versus the R6 II will be more than made up by having to pay for optically-stabilized lenses for the R8.
@@philiprolenick4475 well, yes, but R6II wasn't in the equation before. We were talking about R8 and R7. Of course I believe R6II is better than both, unless you're mainly a tele user. In your case, you're completely covered.
Fantastic presentation! Especially if one (not me) is a beginner in photography. Eyeing on the R8 AS my b/c camera.
So which one is the best for shooting people ? (models, bands, musicians, profile pictures etc)
FF is better for portraits. It will allow you to defocus more the background and I doubt you need the speed or the crop factor of the other two.
Thank Jared, I`ve spent hours and hours trying to find the right camera that I can afford..Canon R8 is what i`m going to buy. Thank you, this video has really helped me decide. Landscape and cityscape`s is what I want to shoot.
Having held the r8 it's unbelievably light and well built, cant believe its a fullframe. With a 35mm you have a compact powerhouse blowing any fuji overpriced apsc out of the water on af and low light
Amazing video, thank you so much. I just found your channel. I’m looking to upgrade for my canon M 50 with a 22 mm prime lens for my TH-cam channel. It is just too laggy going through the Cannon EOS WebCam utility app to stream yard. I need something better with a HDMI out. That is an upgrade if I’m going to spend the money. Do you think the R8 would be a good option for me or should I be looking at something else?
I’ve bought the R8 as my second body and i haven’t had any issues because only has one card slot.
Is a great camera and for traveling I couldn’t recommend it enough!
With a small lens like the 50 1.8 or the 28 2.8 is a great travel combo.
Great for portraits with the 85 2.0 and 1.2.
Check marks to Canon for a great camera
The R7 rules!
thank you so much Jared! I've been looking into the R Canon cameras to upgrade from my EOS 250D to get into sports photography (to not waste tons of money on EF glass when eventually I'll be switching to a higher end R body) so this comparison comes in very handy
I love the R7, it’s amazing coming from a 90D!
We call it an "Olympus quality Canon". Not such a shock (80D here) more as a relief that they finally got it right.
I have the R7, looking up to get the R6 MK2.
I have one I love she
Stay with both, I did it and there is no job I can't do.😎😎
What lens do u use woth r7
Sell the r7 and put the money toward r6 ii. Don’t need both.
@@lovetocrack3443 sigma 18-35 1.8 Art for social and 70-200 in sports event
So I have the R100 and its great by the way! When tax season comes around, I feel like after watching this video, the R7 is just the sweet spot for what I'm looking for and budget! Ty for video man!
I have the R7 and a sigma 18-35 F1.8 best combo ever
I have the R10 with that lens. Amazing duo
I got 2 R7s. Shit changed my life. I love it. I know High ISO is a thing to consider for some, but honestly I never over 800 ISO and it's no big deal. Awesome unit!
Actually the R7 is a whole lot better in low light than people realize. I used the Canon 6D as my night camera all the way up until the R7 release. It just about matches the full frame 6D. I shoot the R7 at iso 3200 on a regular basis with no issues...
I understand (just) iso but what photography would you be doing to use 102400?
the point is the higher the native ISO, typically the cleaner the files at "standard" high ISOs like 6400
Have 2 R8's and absolutely love them. The weight is great for all day long events
am loving the r8 review
ALL OF THEM,thats what I did...and kept the RP too!
Thank you 😊
I have the R7 and love it
been torn between r7 and r8 but i think more points for r7 due to it has 2 card slot and bigger battery also it has higher pixel
Well, seeing your dilemma, I'd recommend thinking again. It's like deciding between a Mustang and a F150. It's clear you don't understand very well the specs of those cameras or the kind of photography you intend to make. Wildlife/sports: R7. Landscapes/portraits: R8. If you intend to use wide angle lenses: R8. Telephoto lenses: R7. Both can do everything, but they will shine more in different kinds of photography.
I am interested in wildlife, landscapes and portraits, I admit it is a bit complicated :) ↕️I don't go to very high ISO, but I like to take photos at night. If I buy an r8 and use it with a 100-400mm lens, will it be successful in wildlife? @@user-vj9qw6ok1b
Great overview, the R8 comes out on top and is going to be my B choice. I'm also enjoying the new Gina Davis haircut.
I have a 700D/T5i and want to upgrade it. I want my camera for landscape and portrait photos, and also do be able to shoot on 4K (to pair with my Dji Pocket 3). I mainly film myself playing piano. I'm aiming at the R8, but the other lenses will become useless, and my budget isn't that high (I have a nifty fifty, 18-135mm and 10-18mm). Do you think it's worth the change or go to an R10?
Thanks all.
7:51 7:56 I heard one possible *_Boeing_* issue was flying plug-doors.
I don't understand why it is separate,you know, regular iso and expandable. What's the gain?
What about R7 vs a6700? Would that be a more solid comparison? I'd love to hear that. I know you did a preview on it, but never a full review yet.
The R10 is pretty old, and the R8 is full frame… So they're not really that comparable with the R7...???
Also, canon only opened up their lenses for APSC… Not for full frame. So that's kind of a big deal.
a6700 over R7 for most people and for video.
R10 pretty old? It was release together with R7.
What do you mean by they opened up their lenses for apsc and not full frame?
I am interested in wildlife, landscapes and portraits, I admit it is a bit complicated :) ↕️I don't go to very high ISO, but I like to take photos at night. If I buy an r8 and use it with a 100-400mm lens, will it be successful in wildlife?
I have 2 R10's I like to use for little parties because of the built-in flash and my R6 for more professional events with a bigger external flash
I just picked up in R8. Mostly doing night time landscape photography astrophotography. My battery went flat while I was out shooting the moon so I plugged in a power brick. It wouldn't charge while I was shooting so for some reason it doesn't appear to have pass-through charging with an external battery. I haven't tried pass through charging with a 110 volt wall plug yet
Thank you for this video. I’m currently back and forth between the r6 MK II and the r8. I was looking at a bundle for the r8 that includes the 24-50mm lens, but I hear that lens isn’t that great. Would you recommend just buying the body and then getting a better lens later? The r6 MK II on the other hand has a bundle with the 24-105 mm lens which seems much better. Any recommendations on what I should do in this situation?
Both those kit lenses suck. If you love yourself, don't get any of the kit lenses with these cameras.
Check these affordable lenses out instead:
The most affordable set:
24mm 1.8 IS (Wide)
50mm 1.8 (Standard/Portrait/Versatile)
100-400mm IS(Telephoto Zoom)
More expensive but much better set:
85mm f2 IS (Portraits)
100-400 IS (Telephoto Zoom)
35mm f1.8 IS (Standard/Versatile)
16mm 2.8 (Only if you need the ultra wide)
*For your info*
50 vs 85mm:
85mm is better for portraits, has better IQ and is also stabilized but 50mm is more versatile.
35mm vs 50mm:
35mm has slightly better IQ, and also image stabilization but portraits are better on the 50mm)
Wide: Do your research on the 16mm 2.8, 24mm 1.8 IS, and 28mm 2.8
I have the R8 with the 24, 50, and 100-400 lenses.
If I had a bigger budget, I would much rather get the 16,35,85, and 100-400 and I still might upgrade to these one day. But these are all still really good lenses. Even the cheapest 50mm is pretty sharp compared to the older EF 50mm.
But whatever you do, don't get the kit lenses.
I could never get used to the 'left hand under the lens' way of holding a camera even back in film days. Turns my let wrist to an uncomfortable position. And it's not all that stable either. My left hand holds the lens from the side. That way my hand and wrist are comfortable and I have full smooth use of whatever ring controls that are on the lens. With the hand underneath I have to loosen my grip to get full ring movement which is important for doing zooms. Way smoother zooms with my left hand holding the lens on the side.
I have R8 since 10/23 and it is amazing, its small and compact, great desing, all buttons on place.. for me the best camera for this price ❤
You have always been super helpful. Thanks Fro!
Sigma now makes lenses for the RF mount, but they’re listed for APS-C, how well will they work on the full frame R8?
I want the R6 mark II. But I was doubting between the R7 and R10. So this was handy.
18:28 the viewfinder uses more battery than using the screen.
LOVE YOUR CHANNEL BUYING THE NEW R7 MARK 2 WHEN IT COMES OUT GOD BLESS, MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR, GOD BLESS!!!!!!!
I just have a sincere question... Does the first curtain electronic shutter prevent flickering in photos like if you are using mechanical shutter?? I want a R6 MK2 or maybe the new r5 MK2 just for the mechanical shutter... If the first curtain eliminate the flickering... I'm ok with the R8 for indoor events...
I’m still loving my 6Dmk2, but videos like this pushing me closer to jumping on the R-train! I’ve got 5 lenses tho, so will live in adapterland for awhile.
If all your lenses are EF, you will have a good time. The problem arises when you have a mix of RF & EF glass and trying to remember which EF glass had the adaptor is so annoying in the field.
If all your lenses are EF, you will have a good time. The problem arises when you have a mix of RF & EF glass and trying to remember which EF glass had the adaptor is so annoying in the field.
The R7 or R6 II both can top that camera easily. The R7 can even match the low light. I have one.
Will my Godox lights and triggers work on that digital hot shoe?
Canon r8 or r7 for portrait’s and wedding photography and what lens do you prefer
R8
My first camera was a SL3, I bought last fall a R8 upon your comparison video. I couldnt be happier. Great timing, Im currently looking to get an APSC, either R7 or R10 :D
ive been using sl3 for almost 3 years. Its my first and only camera rn. Im shooting pretty much everything but i have problems when i shoot sports and that kind of stuff you know. And also i love that advantage of 1.6 crop factor. R7 has cropped sensor and an IBIS which is great too. Thats why i was thinking about getting an r7. However, r8 have way better low light capabilites and faster readout speed compared to r7. But r7 has 15fps mechanical shutter which is great but slow readout speed means i couldnt use electronic shutter in sports, can I ? Then i think about getting an a7iii which has about the same price as r7 and r8 but i hardly get an EF 70-200 2.8 is ii usm. I have 18-55, 50 1.8 and 55-250 too. How am i supposed to switch from canon to sony? Im really confused
by the way, how is the low light capabilites of r7 compared to sl3? What do you think about that?
I’m wanting to start into photography I’m looking at the canon eos r10 or the r8 but don’t know what one I should go for
Same lol
Dumb question but is there difference in photo and video quality the higher up one goes? Like would a ZV e10 have the same level of detail as an R8 or is it just paying for more features and better low light?
most cameras have the same detail like if your getting a £6000 camera like the r3 that will have better detail compared to the zve10 but the r8 does have really good low light but Sony are just better at lowlight so the ZV e10 is about the same as the r8. considering the zve10 is a crop sensor camera so not as many megapixels.
Vello does a battery grip for the R8(BG-C18) (really its for the RP but since its the same body, it works flawlessly)
A nice, comprehensive, comparison.
Thanks, I have a M50 that is getting a bit worn and close to replacement time. Would love a video about what would be a good step from it.
I went from an M50 to an R10 and it was like a culture shock to discover the new capabilities.
Jared dumbing down the check mark 🤣 big fan of these comparison videos, I recently upgraded to the R10 as I mainly shoot wildlife and I’m enjoying the 15fps mechanical. My old RP did have good iso performance though as that’s a full frame sensor.
That view from the Skye bridge towards the mainland is pretty great too :-)
@jaredpolin which camera do you suggest quality macro photography
Anything but the EOS R since it doesn’t have focus bracketing
Which one would be better for Real Estate photography in a budget with video capabilities? I am having trouble to decide between the R7 and R10. Any comments highly appreciated!
If you go strictly for real estate go for the R8. Fullframe gives you a better range of wide angle lenses which are important for indoor shooting.
Yus! Another video for confirmation bias 😂
Jk dude the comments section gets too serious. I genuinely love these and they have been greatly informative me over the years. Thanks again Jared!
I always keep two cameras, I have both the R8 and R7. Both great. I also have a Fujifilm X-T2 and four of the WR lenses. Also great…. I guess that’s three now….
I find the lcd screen is better since I can touch the area I want to focus on, when using the viewfinder you have no idea which area you're focusing on and ruins lots of pictures
I’ve been trying to figure out, where to go from my R. If the R8 took the same batteries, it would be a no brainer. I don’t feel like breaking the bank, but I want better auto focus. Might have to be the 5c.
R10 if you're on a budget but want decent performance and IQ, R8 if you do video, and R7 if you do 4k video and/or wildlife/sports photograph (which it can obviously do other things too). The one disappointment perhaps for the R8 is the lack of IBIS, considering the cheaper Nikon Z5 can do pretty mcuh the same thing (although 4k is cropped) and the Z6 II was only $500 more (MSRP) but has many more features including 2 card slots and IBIS among other things. I mean the R8 has some features the other don't like the variable rate shutter speed (this is found, obviously, on higher-end Nikon cameras like the Z8 and Z9 although it's called "high frequency flicker reduction" or something like that which just changes the readout timing since there is no mechanical shutter on the Z8/Z9). The card redundancy for me almost has become a must (after losing photos in the past due to card failure) plus having overflow is nice too for widlife and other instances where you may be shooting a lot of bursts and may run out of space on a single card (although for me, I just carry extra cards but still use redundancy). I guess it's one of those things that IF you've l ost photos to a card failure in the past, you sort of never forget about and it becomes (for some) almost a necessity in bodies moving forward. That being said, if it was a single CFE/XQD slot I might feel a little better as they are less prone to issues in my experience than SD cards.
That z5 and z6ii have horrible auto focus though.
Im trying to decide between an r10 with the 18-150mm kit lens or the r8 it's my first interchangeable lens camera so I'd still need to get a lens for the r8. I'd mainly want to do wildlife and macro photography as well as take pictures of plastic models which I heard the r10 would be better with but I'd also like to use the camera for other purposes sometimes like landscapes and full frame seems better for that kind of photography. I'd appreciate any input here I seriously cant decide.
The R7 and R6 II are your targets. Both have pre capture, both have modern auto focus (the R6, 10, and 8 do not) both use professional processors (the R6, 10, and 8 do not) and both have in body stabilization.
@@robertmueller6979 thanks for the advice! I actually went with the r10 with the 18-45 kit lens as I got it for a steal during a Canon refurb sale. I'm not gonna lie I bet I'd like the nice features of the r7 like a better buffer and af system but I'm perfectly happy with the r10s performance so far. I just couldn't justify the jump in my mind as I'm a complete noob but I'm thinking down the line if I stick with the hobby I'll look into whatever the modern equivalent of those models will be then.
@@shezmu24 You have professional auto focus just not the latest. You will do just fine... )
@@robertmueller6979 The R8 and R10 both have the same processor as the R7 and R6II.
@ True but Canon took the cripple hammer to both of them so I don't recommend either but fault no one for buying one. I just wouldn't buy either.
I had an R8 - but the Canon cripple hammer - in the likes of no (or now, very limited) 3rd party lenses as well as HAVING to buy only CANON batteries (WAY more expensive than 3rd party), led me to sell it and move to a Panasonic S5ii - WAY better camera in many ways. IBIS, 2 card slots - great ergonomics, etc. Just a joy to hold and use.
Im trying to upgrade from a Nikon D7000, and based on my budget and performance; I was hoping the R8 would be my next lens. I have not heard much about the Lumix S5ii
@@CVPhotography758 The R8 is a good camera - you'd be happy with it.
But Canon has a way of thumbing their noses at their customers - there have been many examples over the years of Canon deliberately crippling various features of various cameras - sometimes they would hear folks complaints and fix the issues, but most times not.
For me, again (biut this is after suffering thru other issues for many years), it's Canon not allowing 3rd party lenses (though again, they have changed their mind on this, but only to a limited extent), and then what pushed me over the edge was when I bought 3rd party batteries, which I know normally work (they are good quality), and the camera reported some kind of error.
That meant I'd have to spend $70 per battery for "real" Canon batteries, as opposed to maybe $10 to $20 for 3rd party bateries - and - of course that situation was made even worse by Canon choosing to use a VERY small battery on the R8 in the first place, which essentialy forces a person to have a couple spares just to get thru a day of shooting. So I tok that $150 and spent it on a Panasonic camera instead.
Anyway, even though I've owned several Canon cameras and thought I'd be a customer for life, I just couldn't take it any more, and switched brands. It's just tragic that Canon chooses to treat their customers so badly.
Oh yea. They definitely crippled the R8 so much it never even made my list.
@@Bill-NM I'd get the S5II if the support was there in my country, but I'm 80% settling on the R8. It may have the cripple hammer all over it, but coming from a 250D, it will definitely be an upgrade. The stuff I'd be 'missing' was never stuff I was crying for anyways.
I wanted the R7 initially, but I honestly want to move to full frame.
Still, let's see how I feel by Black Friday. 😅
Though S5II is absolutely a beauty! I'd get that in a heartbeat if the money was there to straight up buy the camera and lenses (and not have to depend on a converter for my EF lenses)
I was torn between the R7 and the R8 bodies. Because I have some good glass that I use on my 5D Mark three. I really wanted to have two card readers or slots for two cards which would’ve given me the R7 but because of the poor battery life of both cameras, as I have done with my previous cameras that I still own, I wanted a battery grip that will hold two batteries and that battery problem will be solved. But no one seems to make a battery grip for the R7 so I ordered the R8 only to realize that in order to get to the memory card you have to take off the entire grip because the card slot is at the bottom of the camera. I personally think that is a terrible design and one that you would normally only find on point and shoot cameras to the best of my knowledge. So if anyone does know a company that makes a battery grip for the R7 please leave me a message. Thank you.
Can you do another video like this of all of the RF APS-c cameras for wildlife photography?
How good is the r6 . I mean I’m using it and it’s good but how does it compare with the others
The R7 and R6 II are your targets. Both have pre capture, both have modern auto focus (the R6, 10, and 8 do not) both use professional processors (the R6, 10, and 8 do not) and both have in body stabilization.
between the R10 and the RP which is better?
Help
PLEASE HELP ME!
Im a 20 year old guy just getting more into photography/videography(I shoot photos/videos both, I shoot portraits, candids for brands,etc) I currently have Canon M6 mii with a 16mm and 50mm ef and im really confused between r6mii and r8. The main thing is the extra money that i save with r8 i can invest in a lot of lens options! But if i buy r6mii im done and dusted there, so what should i do, r8 and a few lenses or get to the flagship r6mii?
Anyway you will spend money, so if quitting is an option just stay where you are. My 2 cents.
I have an R8 and absolutely love its performance, but I wish that it had come with a bigger battery.
if anyone here can help me -is this good for wedings?- if so whats more preferred?
The EOS RP Battery extension works on the R8
The R7 would be a beast if Canon put a better sensor in it and upped the build quality a tad. Everything else about it is pretty darn good. But that sensor - ugh. For the price point it's good. But noisy. Especially if you push the DR even a little bit. And unpredictable terrible rolling shutter. I'm sure in another year they'll have a MkII version. Has a great AF system once it's tweaked a little. Put a good L lens on it and it gets some amazing shots.
Love my R10, btw the max shutter speed in electric shutter is also 1/16000s
My R8 is a quirky little beast, very pleasant with my purchase and I have no clue why I’m watching* this cause I made that choice months ago
Me too, love my R8
Thank you for convincing me to either get the R8 or the R6 mk ii
U are life saver thank u
will the r10 lenses fit the r8 camera?
Yes, both use the RF lenses.
I’m still using the very first eos R 🫡
same, it still holds up very well In the image quality
so the 20 fps on the r8 is 14bit?
Shoot compressed raw, probably next to no difference quality wise with a much smaller file size
My R7 handles full files no problem. I use pre capture and 64gb cards. I carry 3 cards and 3 batteries at all times.
bought all of those for my media students, and a couple of R50's - all bases covered.
Great comparison - thanks very much. I am looking to buy either R7 or R10. The built-in flash seems really important yes? I don't want to lug around an other bit of kit (external flash), or is that no big deal?
I have the R10 and my camera tell me that my buffer is 13 pictures in raw in H+ mode(I've tested and it slow down after around 15 frames). Does anyone know I can get the 29 raw files in mechanical burst mode ?