TOP 5 PROBLEMS w/ Dodge DURANGO and CHARGER with the 3.6 Pentastar
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- Hey Good People,
Another Top 5 Problems episode for ya. You guys know I do a lot of work on the Dodge products that have the 3.6 Pentastar. Since these vehicles are so popular, and the issues are so common, I thought I'd put together a quick video for my people who own these vehicles but are not informed.
I hope you learn something from this video, and don't forget to drop your 2 cents in the comments. I love to hear from you guys!
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I don't understand how because this rocker lifter issue is so common there isn't some kind of class action or recall. Definitely not ok for a customer to have to pay for this expensive repair out of pocket because of a design flaw. Thanks for the recent uploads Alex!
For real. & I know everyone has to deal with this because I’m dealing with it now at 135,000 miles. Changed the oil & started the tick within a week
Just got my car back today after paying 4k to get it fix lifters and cams
@@Kay4sho_504 I just gave up and sold my wrangler and bought a Corolla. If I ever buy a jeep again it'll be an older one. Screw Chrysler
@@kraftp yea I’m done with American cars Period after this 300 ends no more I can’t take it anymore
It's not a recall issue. It's more of a need to re design.
I found your channel because my wife wants to purchase a used Grand Cherokee. I know nothing about the Pentastar and started watching your videos. Your engine advice is fantastic and well-stated. Even more than your engine advice I hope I can pick up some tips on how to be as calm and light-hearted as you. Thanks for being such a great example.
PO 128 Coolant temperature below thermostat regulating. This will cause the oil to sludge up too and maybe no heat.
This the one! Thanks buddy!
Alex, This engine has great design and they mess it up with rockers that do not hold up and plastic oil coolers and a bunch of plastic everywhere...thank you for sharing your knowledge. For owners that drive $65,000 Rubicons it is disappointing to see plastic oil coolers that can crack. Even the 2024 models still have that same installation. That is so unjustified and is called manufacturer greed and carelessness. Alex, keep up your wonderful work. Thank you.
Love Alex’s passion for cars. Always learning and teaching is a gift! Hats off to you Alex!
Thanks so much!
Yes, Alex is a good mechanic, but they wil not tell you the rest of the story for obvios reason. I a retired mechanic, I own a 2016 Dodge Ram with that infamous 3.6 Pentastar engine, right now the truck has 120.000 miles on it, and only do the oil, spark plug, air filter change. Jog the engine EVERY MORNING ! Avoid that dry start, AND USE A GOOD QUALITY OIL, i use Royal Purple oil, and put a baxter oil adapter at at 100,00 miles ! 😂😂😂 Let me tell you, the dry start vanished for ever !!!
I wish you were my mechanic! Your personality shines through! Around my way the mechanics are robbers and snakes! The good honest mechanics, you have to wait weeks to get work done. I just subscribed!
Alex, you’re so passionate and knowledgeable about this stuff! I’m deciding on buying a 2017 Charger SXT right now and have seen so many of your videos to help me decide on if this is the car I plan to keep for the next 5-10 years
Just stumble upon your channel while at work, loving the content & the work!! Binge watching all your videos!! Keep doing your thing!
Just found the channel. Appreciate the realness and raw truth. It's a breath of fresh air. I'm a Honda guy but nice to learn about the Fiat world.
Thanks bro 💪🏽 thanks for watching 😎
I like the all aluminum oil cooler upgrade. Good info buddy👍
p0128 in the thermostat code... at least that was mine. I recommend the Dorman replacement (honestly, I know I know) but that thermostat works dead on. Love the videos guys and Mrs. Car Doc is already picking up all the car lingo!
Always informative. You guys are awesome!
Thank you brother!
Thanks for the video after watching I went to look for these problems and I caught the oil cooler leaking. You saved me from a locked up engine.
Thanks so much for the information. No problems so far at 83000 miles on my 2015 Durango but now I know what to look for. Thanks again.
No problem 👍
Very informative. So cool to have your wife and crew there part of the whole thing! 😇
You got a great vibe and your knowledge of everything is impressive and helpful.
New like and subbed 👍 😎
I love seeing a homegrown channel, or any homegrown endeavor, for that matter, do well and get support!!
I have a 2023 wrangler with the 3.6 so it's good to be able to find info on the Pentastar
Now do these cautions and info apply to the 2023 Jeep Wrangler 3.6??.
Good luck with all, and God Bless you and your fam ✌️
I have a 09 5.7 ram 1500 love the truck just found your channel will be watching for many tips
I've always been a student of your channel, wish I could bring you my Durango; you're so personable!
Love the video, the thoroughness, and honesty. I can tell you're a great guy. God Bless you.
I appreciate that!
Absolutely love your passion for cars.. keep the videos coming
The P0128 is a diagnostic trouble code (DTC) for malfunction in coolant thermostat - coolant temperature below the thermostat regulating temperature. In simple terms, when the code shows up, there's a problem with your car's coolant thermostat.
Just did mine a month ago.
The video is significant and helpful, do you do any review for product related to Auto lights?
This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for the excellent breakdown Alex. I'm considering getting a used V6 Durango with 40-60k miles and this gives me an idea on what type of work it would need to be done to it. I'm guessing that if these 5 issues are addresses preemptively, the car should be reliable right?
Due to the cartridge type oil filter lacking an anti drain back valve like a spin-on type has, there is a momentary lack of lubrication at start-up to the valve components.
A company known as Baxter Performance sells an oil filter adapter to allow the use of a spin-on oil filter. There are two models available… one to keep the oil filter up top, the other is to remote mount an oil filter connected by oil lines.
I went with the remote mount and guess what ?? No more “clatter” noise at start-up!
Great video man I will definitely subscribe
very informative show, love it. 2 questions for you. #1, what average mileage do the rockers tend to fail? #2, do you replace the lifters/rockers with aftermarket replacements or just oem? Keep up the good work!
What would cause hard gear jumping gear shifts? Mine drives like a stick. Thumping on every gear shift as accelerating and decelerating
👍🏿# 13! I bought the lifetime powertrain warranty when I purchased my 2016 wrangler new. I don't know if changing the oil cooler housing or the thermostat housing would void the warranty. I have 22,400 mi and haven't had any problems. After watching your videos I don't want to wait until these parts fail but I don't want any issues with mopar honoring the warranty if there's a problem.
Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep will use any excuse to void your warranty the dealerships are the most dishonest disgusting crooks on the planet. When you're Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep breaks and it will break go to a good private mechanic like this guy.
This the video I been awaiting on it’s the plastic oil cooler on these for me
Are you replacing the parts with the same type of lifters and camshaft with the ones used by the manufacturer? Or parts better than the manufacturer issued parts?
I use the Melling brand.
Great video Doctor
Wow, thanks for this video! I only knew a couple of these.
No problem! 👨🏽🔧
Great information.
I just swapped out the plastic oil cooler on my 2015 200c. I did put an aluminum one on it. Viewers, if you start seeing small oil leak and or the smell of antifreeze when you turn it off, I bet the oil cooler is probably leaking.
Thanks so much for your input! We all in this together lol
Very in depth analytical video ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Glad you liked it
I have a 2020 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT 3.6 VVT Pentastar motor.
I have got a code P0128 and seen that it was the thermostate that went out, I replaced it myself in about 20 minutes and ran the motor and added more coolant.
After about 20 minutes of driving the vehicle the Check engine went out on its own, I wish I knew about the metal thermostat replacement but maybe next time.
Also, the Oil All aluminum constrution Oil cooler, I have to get one of those not knowing what it will cost to replace the one in there already.
The transmission, I change the Fluid every 60,000 Miles with the best fluid on the market, also oil changes every 5,500 miles full synthetic high mileage.
Please note this vehicle is driven 80% freeways speeds 70 miles daily.
This van is my daily driver and currently have 119,712 Miles on it. Runs great and I do not have the Pentastar Tick in the motor as it sits idiling.
No other problems with my Dodge, this is the first Mopar vehicle I have ever owned, I'm a Ford Man, but since Ford priced were too high and the overpriced vehicles, they have had so many factory recalls and hazards, I just went and paid cash for the new much cheaper Dodge grand caravan all paid off.
I'm glad I didn't buy the Ford Vehical because of the major recalls and the overly high price they want for a vehicle that will destroy itself in the firs 10,000 miles, also transmission breaking or Engines catching on fire.
No thank you Ford.
I have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland with 170,000 miles and a 3.6L Pentastar V6. I use synthetic oil, changed every 6,000 miles, and never had a problem with the Jeep. I own a 2015 Chr4yler 300c with the same engine, but I only have 9,560 miles on the car. How many miles are on these vehicles you are working on?
I’m weak his wife said and do! behind the camera awwww and then he smiled 😊😊❤❤
Do you use mopar lifters and rockers or do you buy aftermarket one?
Hey Alex, your videos are great and help a lot. Am having Durango, dealership says bad lifters on it. The engine is shaking on low rpms and when idling. Engine light starts blinking at low speed and goes stable when car is at high speed and over 2000 RPM. I have codes for both cam shaft misalignment. Would this be only the lifters doing this all !!
Lifters, cams and rockers.
Love the fact that your wife is there every step of the way. MAJOR!!
So my 2014 Durango v6 has cylinder 6 misfire / multiple misfires when I put my scanner, and the breaks are locked up, does this mean the heads are blown? 😢
Found your page , you’re such a cool guy…are all the 3.6s like this? I have a Pacifica (fwd) had to replace the ac comp at 30k …I could sometimes smell antifreeze …could that be the oil cooler? My wife loves it for the space with the kids I like the power when we’re on road trips…do you have a video on drain and fill the transmission ? I feel like having a beer with you and talking cars you’re that cool 👍
Yes he is very cool amiable. Like a buddy or neighbor next door chatting at the mailboxes or running into at the store. So chill and reminds me of buddies back in the day 😇
So I have a 2013 Durango stx that I need to replace the left cylinder head on, when I look up the cylinder head it says it's just for 2014 and up. Did the design change where I can't use a newer one?
Harmonic balance that's the only thing I haven't done to my 2011 dodge durango other than that I did everything else you mentioned already even my transmission 176000 miles
Alex I have a 2018 Durango 3.6
119k
Misfire cylinder 3 and coolant smell from the exhaust
Head gasket maybe?
You figure it out?
6:52
I felt that brother.
Hello sir, i have a question if you could recommend a family SUV that’s reliable but has all the bells n whistles. What do you recommend? Currently finished replacing a oil cooler on a jeep wrangler 3.6 looking for a honest expert advice 😅
Toyota 4runner, Toyota rav4 , or Toyota highlander
I had the 3.6 motor in my 2012 grand cherokee, i just kept up on the oil changes and upgraded the oil cooler before it had a problem, those motors are a hit or miss but preventative maintenance can help not develop those issues
Replace oil cooler with Dorman aluminum one 😎 👌 they good 👍
I've heard collapsed lifters on the hemi like no tomorrow but not a 3.6.. it's weird
Have you seen many Durango front heater core leaks? Is it the 2 o-ring seals that leak or the actual core that leaks? Is there an easier way to replace them. I've seen people have to remove the whole dash to get to them. That's just insane.. what a crappy design. I ask because when i turn on the engine when cold i smell coolant. But not when hot. I suspect it could be the seals leaking when cold but they seal as engine warms up.
And your top 5 is spot on. Our Durango has 91k miles and its on its 3rd thermostat. I've had to replace both the oil cooler and driver side enpine mount. I didn't let the mount get as bad as in your video. I felt a weird slipping like sensation on acceleration. When pushing gas while in drive is when you could see engine lift a bit.
If those bearings are letting loose what's catching all that shit just curious hopefully that was a full motor build after that
Thank you sir.
Does this include the Chrysler Pacifica too?
Hi Alex, could u plz help? I have dodge durango 3.6 - 2011, which chirps when i shift the gear from D to R or vice versa. What could be the problem? Could you plz help? That sound doesn`t come when engine is cold.
My car turns on but it won't move even in the dashboard it shows but nothing... should I change the transmission or could it be low transmission fluid i can't check because it doesn't have a dipstick
The oíl cooler housing is not positioned on the same place in the engine bay of the Chrysler Town & Country. However, has the same issue.
I have that problem with mines plus some Thermostat ... transmission is acting crazy
Another problem is the factory coolant thermostat, replace it with a 170 degree one, need to do some modification. Those engine run hot from the factory !
I have a 2014 Dodge Durango 3.6 is it making a werid noise. I wish a could let you hearit to get your opinion on what it may be.
Find me on Instagram and send me a video!
Idel time is the biggest cause of rocker and lifter failure because of not enough oiling at idel.
Wow that makes sense! Thanks for sharing that. You’re the first person to give me something that makes sense! Thanks!
@@AlexTheCarDoctor yes because the lifter is the only thing that puts oil on the rocker and cam lobe.
Ok i was wondering why it only misfires and idles rough at idle when stopped at a red light. Im praying its the rocker and not the cylinder head
Im 4 hours in and stuck on the bracket bolt lol
@@lemanleygishie6185 if its a gen3 3.6 most common is cam solenoids, have it tested
@@lemanleygishie6185How's your pcv, it gave random misfire for me.
What brand of oil cooler do you replace them with?
Its my understanding that the lifter failure is due to dry starts due to no drainback valve in the upper engine oiling system. Baxter performance sells a fix for this.
Mishimoto makes the best oil filter/cooler housing.
I’ve installed the Doorman aluminum oil filter housing and a Baxter Performance Oil Filter Adapter on my 2014 Durango. Decided on the Baxter model designed for running oil lines to a remote mounted spin-on oil filter.
Now, no more momentary “clatter” noise at start up.
My take on the Pentastar V6 designed with the cartridge type oil filter, is that it was engineered to hopefully just last beyond the factory warranty and after that provide a steady stream of income for dealership service departments!
When the harmonic balancer is going bad or unleveled does it make some weird noise ?
It’s possible depending on situation
I am actually about to get a 2019 dodge durango gt plus and i am glad I have seen this video. I will still get my durango 😂
I know people love their Dodge Durangos, Challengers and Chargers. People are still gonna buy them. That’s why I made this video so you can know what you’re getting into lol
5:45 !!!! 12:10 is that part worth fixing if you got over 250k on that v6 engine ?
Is there an aftermarket rocker and roller setup that you can recommend.
They fixed the problem with the Gen 2 Pentastar. You can use Mopar replacement.
Watch out for them loose oil galley plugs too
Poor Alex needs a vacation! My man calling pliers a screwdriver 😂
I was going through lol
I’m gonna start putting 5w30 in my 2016 sxt, my next oil change.
Yup rockers AND lifters !! Always..
I have a question, I have a 2017 dodge durango that shakes when on idle or stopped. Change the spark plug and components, fuel injectors but still reading cylinder misfire. Do you know what it could be?
Hi I have 2015 Dodge Durango as well same issues did you ever find out what was wrong? I need help 😢
I had 2015 sxt Durango (195k) miles , and 2022 Gt Durango (20k) miles both started to make transmissions whining noise .
Thanks!
I appreciate you 🙏🏽
Do you use OEM parts or aftermarket replacement parts? If you use aftermarket parts, which brand is reliable?
I use aftermarket parts. Milling has been great.
@AlexTheCarDoctor Thanks, Alex.
So how many miles can you get out of a 3.6?? I have replaced the cam shaft twice with the lifters on mine.. we have 120k and now need AC compressor should I trade mine in
I’ve seen some of these with 300k miles so I guess it would depend. You’ll run into coolant issues. Oil Cooler, Radiator, and Thermostat housings go out. What car are you thinking about trading it in for?
I have a question ive been watching the shorts and chanel for a while now. i have a rattling sound in the engine, but have no check engine codes and my car runs good. Should I be worried? I do have bad motor mounts ldk if that could be a cause. Help :(
Hey buddy, give me more info. Year, make, model and mileage
What year model have these problems I’m buying at 2020 Durango gt
Lawd the mounts made of play dough oh my 😂
Have you ever seen a Dodge Durango fuse box melt and what could possibly be the cause?
HOUSING VALVE MAY PRESENT A COLANT LIQUID LEAKAGE, ON TOP OF THE ENGINE, AND WHERE DO YOU LOCATE THE COLANT LIQUID SAFETY SEALS? I HAVE A 2013 DURANGO 3.6 PENTASTAR ENGINE WITH A WATER LEAK BEHIND THE THERMOSTAT VALVE. GUYS I AM FROM BRASIL,
P0128 thermostat polarity
Did all 24 followers and lifters. Cam lobes were fine. Made sure that I used Melling followers and lifters. Oil soaked all parts for a few days prior to doing the job.
I have a 2012 Durango Citadel. It has roughly 179,000 miles. Love the truck but it has a lot of problems. Rack and Pinion, axels, leaking oil, a/c only cools on drivers side, engine bracket broken, transmission rough shift around 2nd gear I think. Should I repair or replace? Can I put a Hemi in if I replace the 3.6 liter? Thinking about getting a used 2014 or newer Lexus GX460.
I hope you bought the Lexus and never looked at a Chrysler product again. LEXUS = TOYOTA RELIABILITY 👏
@@Jeffhilux94 His Durango is 22 years old and has carried him 179,000 miles, get back to me when your lexus does that. Just the lousy mpg the toyotas get would cost more than the repairs to his durango in the extra fuel cost to drive that distance. I am driving a 24 year old concord, still quiet and rust free. They just need regular oil changes and hate led feet.
@davidvandyk1171 still quiet and rust free, huh? What are you smoking ? You didn't mention mileage or repairs. No, thank you keep that clunker. You can not compare a pos chrysler with a Toyota.
@@Jeffhilux94 Chrysler has a history of making engines like the slant 6 and the 3.6 and although they are not idiot proof like VWs, they will last longer than the car they are in, if you just change oil religiously, and DON'T push them. The Concord has the infamous 2.7 in it and it's so quiet you can hardly tell it's running. While driving like a fool as a teenager I blew up 3 slant sixes in less than a year (the Valiant would do110 mph if you left it on the floor long enough) My father on the other hand put 500,000 miles in his 75 Valiant , also a slant 6, and no drive train issues. He was a very boring driver. (The concord was his as well)
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i see what u mean with the motor mount... so basically if u rev your engine and your engine moves as if its a heart beating rythmically then its bad news... so in this situation instead of keeping that heart beat we have cease it and kill the heart beat to make sure everything else and good and stable. Gotcha
Correct! I love the analogy! 😁
Can you please make a video of the sounds you should watch out for ?
Yes I can do that. 📝✍🏽
Wish I saw this sooner - yes, I think I've hit each and every one of those with my 2014 Durango Limited. Damned Oil Cooler.. (twice?), thermostat, etc.. can't wait to get rid of this money pit.
I have a 2014 sxt Dodge charger I need help, When starting vehicle I feel a very rough shake inside car
I have a 2015 Dodge Durango sxt an i changed the thermostat almost every year had it for 4 years now
Yeah! I’ve had to warranty them out a lot! I’m going to switch to getting them from the dealership and see if that helps.
The Winshield Wiper use also seems to rock the whole car.
What a job like that runs
Around how many miles does the lifter/rocker issue tend to happen ? I think i may have this issue at 89k miles. Along with a coolant leak. Lord pray for me
I have a jeep Wrangler 3.8 V6 I hope that's a better engine 😀
ThAt 3.8 is 1 of the engine that put Chrysler on the map it’s very good
I have a Dodge Durango. Pricey to keep it maintained…. Had smoke and burning smell come thru the ac system and come to find out it was valve gasket covers that were deteriorating and leaking oil smh
Once you replace them are you good now ?
You should be. I’ve seen these engines with close to 300,000 miles if you take care of them.
My dodge durango 2015 is not shifting it got stuck on parking.All of this happened After overhauling the engine
I’m still not getting rid of my Dodges I have 2 2004’s 1 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 and 1 Neon SXT with the 2.0 love them both and have owned them since brand new.
I bet you take good care of them. I tell people this all the time if you take care your machines, your machines will take care of you.
The Neon does have something going on with it at startup then going away once it warms up. That motor has them rocker arms that are assembled on a shaft so I’m not sure what it is but it has no lose in power she get up a goes.
@@antoniomarc7174 from my experience with those little neon motors,they are pretty good and never give too many issues unless you let the timing belt break
@@antoniomarc7174 what is your mileage
@@AlexTheCarDoctor 98700 very little mileage for the year
I have a 2016 dodge durango and when i go to reverse my wheels drag
I NEED HELP! , my bottom coolant hose popped off while driving and got home and car started to over heat, I added more coolant the next day and drove off after it was at temperature, the car started to overheat and is blowing out white smoke , i used a diagnostic took and have a p0303 code , but i am still concerned that the white smoke is coming from a head gasket leak and not a spark plug missfire, what do i do ?
I replaced the thermostat. Replaced the coolant again, and bled the system, , coolant still boils & coolant hoses still have pressure after engines cool down afternight. 🥸🔫
Im leaning more towards head gasket but do not wanna go down a rabbit hole
@@kelvinvelasquez2346 hey there buddy you need to perform a block test to check for head gasket integrity
2015 dodge Durango starts but won't stay on error code loss of communication ECM/PCM ?
Tipm?