Warcraft 3 Brought to StarCraft 2? Zerg Vs Night Elves (Modded) Cast!
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The modders have done it - they brought Warcraft 3 to StarCraft 2! It's another game featuring Rosebudio (Night Elves) Vs AnyOne (Zerg)! First the Protoss, now the Zerg... they're just misunderstood.
It will be interesting to see how the meta develops as this mod gets balanced. Big shoutout to the developers for their hard work on making this possible!
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That was a great series we played vs Rose.
After this games, Rosebudio made a few changes to W3 races buffing a lot of units so they can deal with the high DPS of SC races.
Great casting btw!
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did he buff the night elves or other races too ? cause human and orcs seemed overpowered against sc ! especially when they properly use the early game advantage of the hero units
@@altonito777 W3 races got massive nerf after first patches when it was insane powerful. Then W3 races became very bad macrowise vs SC. Now its more even. Still I think SC beats W3
This was a fun one! Great games as always man. How do you feel about the balance now that Rosebudio made those adjustments?
@ElleixGaming balancing must be the hardest part of getting this mod fun. Imagine of difficult it was for blizzard to balance just 3 races and this mod got 10. IMO the balance is pretty good, but still more to improve
@@AnyOneGamingTV ohh I see ! I did not know of all those changes, I hope it gets to a point where it is properly balanced
If I had to guess, the meta will adjust to the SC2 races having to be a bit more defensive until they can build big enough armies to snowball the WAR3 armies. Early on, without that numerical advantage, the tankiness of the WAR3 units is really powerful. So playing defensive until that bigger army can be built I think would prove key. On the WAR3 side, gorilla warfare and stopping them from being able to mass that large count would be key. I do agree that high DPS is a big thing as the SC2 units are going to appear squishy compared to their WAR3 counterparts regardless, might as well get that damage in and try to wear them down.
Sound is CRISP! Love your casts and custom SC2
Thank you man I appreciate it!! Glad you’re enjoying the videos 🤟
Chimeras and alot of huntresses would do enough AOE to deal with that massive army
Some reason i can imagine Warcraft 2 also being in this mod, since Warcraft 2 compared to Warcraft 3 is more macro based similar to Starcraft 1 and 2 (tho Warcraft 2 has been long forgotten since like 2003 unlike StarCraft 1 with its Remaster)
It's planned afaik
But WC3 factions needs more work first
WarCraft 2 would've been a lot more "Balanced" since it'd be closer to SC2's base-game functions. IMO WC3 is stacked against SC2 because trading armies and harass gets XP on your hero on top of what it already does, which has a snowball effect that can only be stopped by an energy block like Ghosts or High Templar.
Though, WarCraft 2 has some nasty considerations to make such as: Do you let Paladins autocast heal? Do they detect when they scan? How the heck do you do the water units? Air units suck in comparison to SC2/WC3 counterparts, and the big one being PIERCING DAMAGE.
Every single unit has a different value of this and it's damage that armor cannot block and when you get an upgrade it's +2 damage and +2 piercing damage, making end battles faster similar to SC2's philosophy. Not to mention, what armor classes do you even give WC2 units? None? Because if you introduce that pie WC2 vs WC2 won't feel like WC2 vs WC2 anymore since your units won't deal damage like they should to each other. But if you don't, SC2 matchups against them won't really work either other than something like Archons that deal extra damage to biological units. Real tough one, there.
And another minor issue would be that we don't have models for WC2 units that would work in the SC2 engine without getting mixed up with the WC3 ones so WC2 Orc vs WC3 Orc would be hard to figure out what's going on
@@FireallyXTheories Yeah definitely. And did notice how the Warcraft 3 races have the net positive of Heroes making their late game many times better; as if hypothetically both sides had 200 pop armies, the Warcraft 3 armies could still become stronger by leveling their heroes. But also noticed how they are very vulnerable early game as they lack good base defense, strong high attack speed range units and mobility to combat the strong harassing potential of StarCraft 2's reapers, stalkers, adepts or roaches (except the Hero which is only one that is kinda helpless should a player split harass). Ig, easier at killing them early vs fighting their net positive late game is the trade off. Brood War can combat this harass as they have the benefit of early low cost pop units to create enough quantity to cutoff harassers. Its really tough for them tho to counter Disruptor balls as they and both Warcraft 3 lack mobility. Imo, in this mod, i think Protoss is the strongest race for Starcraft 2, while Zerg for Brood War, and Night Elf for Warcraft 3. Originally thought Undead as their "workers" are the strongest to tank harass, their Lich hero is insane with that Nova ability, and their Frost Wyrms are a viable sirt if capital ship, while Necromancers create a good mass for late game death balls. But with Night Elf, most of their units are valuable and more comparable to Starcraft armies due to mostly ranged attacks, and they have very good tanks like the Mountain Giant which will increase the survivability of the whole ground army similar to an Ultralisk, and as most armies are mostly compromised of ground. And whats more is their Moonwells acting as a far superior version of Shield Batteries, which can be quickly be proxy built close to key battle locations, and decrease the loss factor of offensively engaging for Night Elf or causing opponents to second guess attacking into positions with Moonwells.
Either way its a hella fun mod
This was an awesome game, and the mic is definitely CRISP. Priestess of the Moon would probably have been the better option here over Keeper of the Grove just for the damage aura they have.
AnyOne is a really good Zerg player so he's been vital in balancing out the vs Zerg matchup. This match was played on a much older version, way before the latest update which has added a mechanic that increases the production rate of Warcraft 3 buildings by 15/30% if they tech up their main building to Tier 2/Tier 3 which actually allows them to keep up with Starcraft 2 factions in the mid to lategame.
Interesting fact.
In the older version of the mod (which is being played in this cast) the Warcraft 3 factions were strong at rushing, but would struggle in the mid to lategame due to how slow their production was so they would have to rely on scaling their hero up. If the hero didn't get enough experience and levels by that stage of that game, Starcraft would win, and if the hero levelled up too much, Warcraft would win. This of course wasn't an ideal state of the game so many patches were done over time to give both games a chance to win lategame ^^
It was a really fun one to cast! The mic is also a great addition to my set up for sure, I can hear a big difference.
It's awesome to hear AnyOne has been helping with balancing things out - do you think the production rate increase has helped with balancing out WC3 in the lategame? I'm also curious if the plan is to keep the WC3 races at a supply cap of 200
The Mike is good career investment! You sound great!
Thank you, I appreciate it! It adds a lot to my setup
Love the new mic
I appreciate it! It's a great addition to the channel I think
finally a StarCraft win
Wow that silky smooth voice now
So smooth 😤
These will get views pump more of these
Zerg should have gone for the free units strat like broodlords
4:10: **Loses 100% of army** "...getting whittled down a little bit." 🤔
Not enough Heroes. Show me dat Starfall!
Just a little bit 😂😂
Night Elves seem pretty popular to use in this game, at least based on these videos... I wonder if that's a matter of preference or balancing... I'm guessing the latter due to most of the units for NE being ranged, which has an advantage compared to melee when it comes to the faster, ranged units of the opposition. Combined with the thorns aura and high HP connected to the hero unit, I can see how powerful the combination is. Their healing wells are very useful to that end as well...
Keeper is not very good. The best hero for this is Warden. Those fan of knives would rip do many units. The blink into mineral line and just melt worker is really strong.
@@Newbtuber Of the NE, I agree. Overall it seems the Human Mage seems the most powerful... Between teleporting, the Blizzard spell, and summoning the elementals, he's pretty well off. The only thing working for the keeper against Zerg is the potential to counter zergling rushes to some degree... Any real ranged unit counters it though. My favorite race is the Scourge, so I'm deciding where to go there... lol.
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Yes this Mic sounds better than your old one. Which model do you use?
Thanks! The mic I'm now using is: Rode PodMic Cardioid Dynamic Broadcast
I wanted to see something 2x2
Team A - Zerg + undead
Team B - no difference (but also Warcraft 3 + Starcraft 2)
The interest is simple - will the Zerg creep be considered "spoiling" for undead units? Will the Death Knight's Aura work on Zerg units (imagine zerglings or banelings with a speed under 3 Death Knight's aura)
And you also need to give the tavern to the maps))
Imagine a Dark Huntress with an Arrow against the Zerg - every shot = a skeleton! )) (in the early stages)
the voice does sound more crisp
@@DpNemo thanks! I definitely think there’s a sound improvement
Hero+Potm as two heros, and mg/huntressess/archers to counter this comp
Or i was thinking of Keeper for early zergling rush cause maybe thorns is good for once?
@@akoslazar9005 vs zerg it's either dh or warden first hero. Potm second cause dat aura. Keeper could be third
@@zachariastsampasidis8880 true and evasion is super busted cause majority of starcraft units attack
Wanna see Starfall on that Hydra ball ;p
@@zachariastsampasidis8880 definetly DH first immolation and evasion is absolutely brutal
Very good
I don't understand why is it only limiting one hero unit?
I remember theirs one hero unit where she's an assassin and he can do a teleport and a aoe skill?
Sadly no Chimeras
It does seem like spamming hydras or mutas is the meta. Every time I play a WC3 race i get rushed down by someone playing zerg who spammed as many hydras as possible. Not much you can do.
sounds better but honestly it does not make any difference for me. The content is good
Thank you, means a lot to me!
thorns is abusive against zerg. It makes lings just backfire and ultras don't fare that well either.
Is there any place u can play this or its not released yet for other people?
You can play it now! It's an extension within the game itself. Follow similar steps to this guide: th-cam.com/video/T2xCQ-pzKqQ/w-d-xo.html
Searching for Azeroth-Koprulu should return the mod
@@ElleixGaming thanks bro, much love, keep up the good work
Night elves are the best
Starcraft races should have their hero too to make it fair ..
The mauntain giant used to have heavy armor
And can me upgraded to fortified
I can see they nerfed alot of the warcraft 3 factions
MG has Medium armor.... But it has a lot of damage reduction and spell blocking skill.
Zerg would easily win on minute 9 but he is dumb.
Zerg scale too well in this mod, I don’t know how they can nerf that but maybe allowing Warcraft players to 125 supply would even these matchups on sheer units
Warcraft has 200 supply limit already ;p Honestly, dude just didn't get more Heroes.
@@catbert7 its hard enough to micro one hero. One of the hardest balancing factors in this mod is that warcraft 3 fights last much longer than starcraft 2 fights, you can really see this when you look at the dofference of build times and attack speeds. Look at how slowly the archers attack compared to stalkers or hydras. They have a slower attack speed than roaches, and worse, they have a wind up to their attack as well. I think that warcraft units just need a build time and attack speed buff on several of their key units. They got movement down though.
i cannot believe how badly balanced this is. why the hell does a tower have 600 hp? some of the warcraft units have more HP here than in warcraft even though the scaling from war3 to starcraft 2 to be fair would be around 8:1 (so divide the warcraft hp by 8, which NEVER happens here).
Same thing happens with movespeed. everything warcraft moves way too fast. 300 movespeed should translate to 2.75 move speed in sc2 (well, WOL move speed, i think the scaling changed in the protoss expansion but i'm not familiar with the new numbers)
Not to mention heroes. They should have 150hp at lvl 1, and just like 12 damage or something. they are not supposed to be this strong.
I know there is a lot to consider translating war3 to sc2 because battle in war3 are much slower with units being many times as durable, but this is certainly not the way to go about it. warcraft units could be tanky, idk, but they need to have incredibly shitty damage to compensate. and they don't.
starcraft players are lucky the warcraft players are such noobs because they have all the advantages in this poorly balanced mod.
anyone is a spanish speaking content creator? without context the grammar creates confusion.
warcraft is low on units thats why they lost
Warcraft econ works differently. They have an upkeep based on their current supply so you usually won't see many units for them. Warcraft also had a max of 100 supply (don't know if here they also have 200 or kept the 100 max supply) in exchange their units do tend to be more powerful than SC2 units plus the addition of heroes that really hold their own. They are kinda like protoss. Few powerful units
Wc player is still using T1 units for over 20 mins is the reason why they lost...
That's some uncommon outcome of this fight, given how skewed the balance of this mod is.
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Aye let's gooo!
These old Warcraft 3 Skins are awful! Why not use the new reforged ones???
2024 ... Every noob with obs is a content creator .... poor mankind
This is great content. What's your problem?
Bro what are u talking about lol
What a noob wc3 player. Lol