Having started playing FM20, I've gone from having just about everything delegated, and gradually taking more control over time...training is the last on my delegated list, so I'm looking forward to this series!!! (Also kept the vid playing while typing this so now I gotta start over 🤦🏻♂️)
seconding this. Got everything under my control like a certain AI in a couple of relatively popular movies - except that damned Zion.. I mean Training. So glad i can grasp that aswell now.
I must be doing it wrong, when I started (FM21) I loved sorting the training and experimenting with it all. The thing I could never wrap my head around was signing/resigning players, I would just accept whatever they asked for wage wise and wondered why I didn’t have enough in my budget to resign my top players 🤦🏻♂️.
Usually I don’t praise my players if they’re below an 8 in training. Usually they get complacent or stagnate in their effort. If I praise 8+ usually everyone will follow suit and put more effort into a training session.
@@Christian_Bagger if you praise people too often it becomes useless and will actually have a negative effect. The players will turn around and say it means nothing as you say it all the time. You need to be aware not to constantly tell the same player time after time too that's why I only do it with 9s
@@nicholasgiles500 Yea, that’s why I keep it to praising them either every 2nd week or once a month. You’re right it will have a negative impact whether it’s upfront or under the hood.
It's great to hear this is the most optimal option. I have been playing like that since FM20 and it always had great results. However, if a player really wants to see those arrows going up, they really need to play with younger players. That's where the game is most fun, seeing your youngsters becoming great players. With similar training I have seen upwards to 47 points gained in all attributes in a year. I could barely believe my eyes.
(Semi-)Pro Tip: Train attacking set-pieces as early and for as long as possible in preseason, so that your team would have something to rely on for goals while they are still gaining tactical familiarity
Set piece training will only give a boost for the following 2 or 3 matches. It needs to be part of your training every week or two to maintain that bonus. But yeah, definitely make it part of your preseason preparations too.
@@stevensmith2464 that's the aim, basically. Get an edge for the early games while the team is settling in the tactic. And ofc, keeping it going throughout the season is good, and I cannot recommend it enough.
I've been doing 1 game for the first two weeks of preseason, and for weeks 3-5 (or however many there are) two games a week, with a full rotation (2 different teams) so everyone is sharp at the beginning of the season. I've been using the schedules that some creator made once, can't remember if it was RDF or Fox, I think for FM21, as a guide, just as a way to not start from scratch (like, already have match preview and review, recovery, etc., it saves time), and then editing them to fulfill my teams needs. Scheduling training is not only hard to get right on your own but also tedious, so anything that can help understand it better and save time is more than welcome! Thanks Z!
Zaz is a well-known researcher of some of the very best tactics, he seems to be a very BIG fan of training Pace/Acceleration as these attributes are said to be the by far most important. Did this testing dwelve deeper into this issue?
Yeah they (FM-Arena / ZAZ) did a simulated league with all stats at 20 then reducing a specific stat. They found that making pace, accel, balance , dribbling worse had the biggest impact so concluded they must be the most important attributes for the match engine. Although this doesn’t account for tactical set up. In general it seems to be about right since pacey, dribbling, wingers , forwards, and attacking midfielders /CM’s seem to consistently put up the best match ratings. Also the best stats for wingbacks seems to be pace/accel and dribbling since going forward and also playing inverted to dribble into the middle are so effective in the ME
I pretty much always tend to start the season slowly and it puts me in the back foot, tried this training and had the best season I think I have ever had so will give a lot of credit to the pre season training!
I'm playing in Norway and the pre-season starts like three months before the first league game. How long do you keep that intensive schedule going for that Z highlighted in the video? How many friendlies? How soon before the first league game etc?
@@TheMattB81 I did it for the first 3 weeks of training and just had friendlies on Saturdays. Playing in the premier league so that probably then leaves me about 3 more weeks to go back to tactical/technical training and usually 2 friendliest a week.
I have never done my own training. Ever. Since champ manager day. But if this is going to be a full on help and guide, training will now be a full hands on thing I do. Like scouting became. Thank you to u and your team for making this game even more indepth and time consuming! 😂
Don't forget lower leagues trainings! (semi-pro, amateur). They have only 3 days worth training with 2 slots... Currently Im doing like this, Mon-Unavailable; Tue-Physical,Endurance; Wed-Friendly match; Tue-Resistance, Quickness; Fri-Unavailable; Sat-Physical, Endurance; Sun-Friendly match.
Is there a point in physically training your semi pro players ? Wouldn't it be better throw in a physical training here and there while focusing entirely on match preparation so that they can be at their best during the match ? I mean, if I were part of my local side, being asked to train how to move while on the attack or how to stay in Defensive shape would be of more use instead of trying to to be stronger and faster than everybody else
@@vesuvianblack4884 That is my training in pre season as an amateur/semi pro AFTER having my team's cohesion to max! When I started my save my training was completed different. At start of a new save I wanted my team to have the most cohesion/tactic familiarity maxed as much as possible and fast as possible, That makes a huge difference trust me! In about 4 to 5 months you will have almost max. You want to have always (if possible) 2 friendly's or a friendly and a match day. You don's play both with the same players. Your FIRST 11 plays the match day the friendly you play your 2nd 11's. that way no risk of injurys and your whole squad will/is fit! So went like this, Mon-Unavailable; Tue-Teamwork,Team Bonding; Wed-Friendly match; Tue-Att. Movement, Teamwork; Fri-Unavailable; Sat-Teamwork, Match Tactics; Sun-Friendly match/Match day Try it and say how it went!
I already do this, but then, I'm a psychopath who manages his friendlies.... (and the reserves. in fact, a total control freak). Also, the day following a match will almost always consist of "recovery", "match review" & "team bonding" (yes, team bonding, even during the season - I have the happiest squad, even with 50 odd players at the club)
I always check if there aren't any players in my first team that could go get some maych fitness. Sometimes I even take a weaker player on the bench to allow a better impact sub to get a full game if the scheduling collides :D
I spent 3 and a half succesful seasons at semi pro Brackley. Four sessions a week only allowed. I Focused on always having at least one match practice, seems to do everything. One overall, and then you have to vary. I threw in chance conversion a lot as I was usually already very dominant, and wanted to focus on finishing our chances
WARNING: it is true that you shouldn't get injuries if you make sure that the individual workload is not higher than medium. However, the workload changes constantly, especially if you set the intensity level to automatic, so you have to check every player on your team day to day. I was checking every week and got burned by my 4 first team players including main GK getting injured before CL qualifiers (this never happened before). Personally, its too much micro-management for me so I went back to using default schedules but other than that the rest of the tips and guides on training by Z are great.
This is well timed as I'm about to get a club into league 2 and we will be forced to become a professional club so I'll have more training sessions than previously. I would try and get match sharpness by having an intense period of games before the season. Usually out of financial necessity.
" Zealand is finally doing a training video! " ( I fire up the save and delete 5 or 6 saved routines that I rarely use ) Video ends. "Oh. he only covered preseason in the video " ( stares at the now mostly empty custom schedule screen....)
Maybe bad luck, but my first time trying your preseason schedule and following all instructions I've had SO many injuries during preseason and the first few weeks of the season. Like the most I've ever seen. I don't know if I'd risk it again.
Fun thing i always do with coach assignments is that i always hire a dirt-cheap shitty coach to be the guy running around holding clip boards, setting up cones, and bringing water to the players. I assign him to help in every single category and view him as a very well-paid water boy :)
I have been doing two friendlies a week for the last three FMs, always have the lowest number of injuries in a season. The trick is to not go full balls to the wall with physical preseason, instead doing intense training for the first week (with one or no friendly, normal intensity and no additional focus), and then some dark blue and light blue (match prep) trainings for a week or two, and then moving into individual attack (green) and defence (purple) sessions, along with the technical sessions that make sense for your tactic (reenable additional focus, keep first team on normal intensity and bump up squad players to double). Keep this up, and play your last friendly one week before your first game, you will be miles ahead of any other team in terms of match sharpness by now and should cruise easily through the first month. You should have played around 8 friendlies, and I religiously give each player 45 mins regardless of fitness/sharpness. So you should have 22 players ready to go when the season hits. Zealand's videos are informative, but I'm sorry, I just didn't find this one to be an accurate representation of my own findings handling all my training myself.
One of the key parts of pre-season for me is arranging mini-Leagues. These mini-leagues pull in mega$$$$ for my club. What this means is that for the 4 weeks of training, I have matches on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday against the most prestigious clubs I can. For smaller clubs, this cash influx is crucial. When I'm at bigger clubs, I arrange preseason tours. Ideally, I play 2 matches in China, 2 in Japan, 2 in South Korea then try to squeeze in 4 in the USA. For the big clubs, I can increase the cash flow by garnering fans across the globe. Any suggestions on how to balance making money and your preseason fitness?
Hopefully this gets answered for once... Zealand trains all players in 'Roles' so does WorkThe Space and BusttheNet.. its been asked loads of times on SI forums but no clear answer. Training players in roles can lead to poor position/role/duty Familiarity if the trained role and playing roles don't match.. so what do these training experts say about this. Important or Not? Do these experts train player's in NON playing roles to best improve attributes? Do they switch to playing roles to improve familiarity?
any experiments on player development coming? Would be really interesting to test for example what age players develop by how much CA with which personality etc. etc.
Great video Z. I aim to get match fitness and tactical familiarity up as quick as possible in pre-season. However, I play two games a week. But, by the end of the pre-season I may have over done it as a few players are fatigued and can't cope. Maybe hammering them with the endurance and quickness/resistance will help build them up, and they get to recover by playing only one game a week. Although, my team like to take part in tours so I feel obliged to play 2 matches in a week. I can't wait for the next episodes to see how your training plans compare to mine. In the season, I aim to concentrate on unit specific training. EG in the morning Patient attacking and in the afternoon, defending disengaged. Another day, Wing attack and defending wide. Plus match tactics, teamwork, attack positioning and defensive positioning just before the match.
Would be cool to understand how the AI is programmed to develop players, is it influenced by training and youth facilities, game time, coaches, club rep, training schedules.
Gametime is the biggest factor in development; good training and mentoring can only get you so far, either mentoree learns all he can or he needs starting minutes to maximize his training and growth potential.
There is a trade-off you can do if you need more money (from friendlies with high reputation) and are willing to give up training spots but *not* injuries: Trialists. They are allowed to play in friendlies, so you can play your own team about half the time or less (reducing injury risk), so that you can play friendlies two or three times a week if you need a cash injection. Note that this is likely most relevant in the lower leagues, or in nations with very low achievement-based prizes. If you're in the Bundesliga or Serie A or something, the money you'll make from placing well (or avoiding relegation) is going to make the friendly money look like pocket change. In Vanarama North? Not so much.
I use 2 matches a week. Each player plays a full 90 minutes this week (except for those 3 who get switched out for the younglings in a 25-man system) in the preseason. I never use the endurance and "heavy" lifting at all, as I've had poor results with injuries. And I've never had any problems with fatigue and other things as well. (What would be neat tho, is that the Ass.manager, if allowed would move other trainers around if some training gets heavy to avoid injuries)
Also training role also assists with tactical familiarity gain if they play that role. Making it even more important. Leading own friendly matches and the 60/30 minute split also there in the RDF post pretty sure. Or have also just been doing that.
I applied this in season 4, after playing very consistently well in previous seasons, I'm now 1-11 in the league and losing the dressing room. 🤣 Usually all the tips and "tricks" I get from this channel are spot on, but I might be getting the sack at this rate.
I concentrate on physical and match related tactical training in the preseason as well. It's really the only way to get your team ready. And if you're like me and you like to have a big squad, schedule two friendlies per week so your AssMan rotates through all your players (hopefully). If you don't trust him to do that, set your lineups then sim the matches.
I always get complaints that players think we do too much x. (usually something physical like quickness training) if I stash the pre season with physical segments. Once they start to complain, their training rating goes down. Nearly my entire squad scored between a rating of 5 to a 7; nearly everyone was below 6.5. In my experience, doing specific physical training is not too efficient on mondays because a lot of players are still recovering after a (Friendly) match. Players still recovering won't take part in that training making it useless. It's possible to adapt that, but forcing players to take part anyway significantly increases the chance of exhaustion and injury. What works for me is to stash the training schedule with tactical and technical aspects or general segments (attack/defense/overall/outfield). I'd only do physical segments like quickness/endurance/resistance during the middle of the week on weeks I only play 1 match a week. I'd try to do 1 segment of set piece delivery/att free kick/att corners once in every 3 or 4 weeks. Often on a monday, there's a standard physical segment. Assuming the match was played on saturday and I do recovery and team bonding on sunday, I prefer to move it to a monday and put goalkeeping/tactics/teamwork on the last segment to make the tuesday not too taxing. Goalkeepers barely get tired anyway so goalkeeping segments seem fine as filler. Avoid orange for intensity at all times. The day before the match I do fill the schedule but with lighter segments keeping intensity at a darker green. This worked for me. The vast majority of my team usually scores an 8+ rating in training with only about once in 4 months someone scoring lower than a 6.50. Praising everyone that scores higher than a 7.8/8 a week is a bit of a chore, but a free morale booster leading to even better results on the pitch and training.
You said a good season preparation gives them more strength later in the season, I am wondering where can you actually check the fitness of your team (aside from attributes which progress way too slowly for that) I mean, a green heart cannot become more green.
Pleaseee I know its been 4 months, did you ever get answer to this? I just saw this video and we are thinking the same..like endurance and resistance affects “attributes “ to my understanding, and not some “hiden” condition thats gonna make players be less tired during as the season goes on… Man this confused me and if ingot this wrong then I got everything wrong when it comes to training..
Nice at home weekly friendlies in pre season, was already doing that. Also sorry can I get some credits on that pre season training? I wrote it out pretty much in the RDF training video. Or is it a great minds think alike thing? Even the chance conversion instead of Match tactics thing is mine. I have an old imgur file link to prove it that get's removed by youtube or you can check the posts I made in RDF's video
@@lewisharrison782 Yeah it is odd indeed. Could be an honest mistake on Z's part however his researches might have been inspired by my stuff without informing Z. And I would like some credits tbh.
Hi Zealand, thanks for the video. I'm wondering how to choose what training to apply individually to each player and I hope it is covered in this training series you are putting out! Cheers.
Training is done by units, attacking defending goalkeeping. For individuals you change position/role and extra focus but all training is dictated by the training unit they are in and the scheduled training sessions.
@@SimersFM Cool - any tips on how to pick the best "extra focus" ? Fill in weak spots with the player's game or try to improve stats important to their role? i.e. midfielder = passing
@@NyctoGaming it’s a really good question that you have to ask yourself on each player as this answer will depend on the player and what role you are asking them to do. I would say if there is a glaring weak attribute that is important to the role (highlighted in green) then that’s a good place to start. Set the player to train a specific position/role and see if there is anything glaring. If not, try to boost physical or technicals for younger players and maybe switch more so to mentals on older ones. Ultimately it just depends on the specific player though. Older players also are generally going to improve less and depending on potential you may be better off not asking to additionally focus.
Is there a reason you cant take control of the U19/18 starting lineups? and if you cant how do you ensure they substitute so all the youngsters can play? Ive had games where they only make one substitute and the entire team is beat, with healthy guys on the sideline. It makes no sense.
I play a match every 4 days, at the beginning of pre season I have about 50 players, I use a different 11 every match depending on the match sharpness and workload. It is advisable not to play any friendly in the first week of the pre season.
Yeah same, you could however schedule a game for the reservers or U18s(or whatever your team has) for the other players to not mess with your training schedule.
Pleaseee anyone can help out with explaining the logic here..I just saw this video and I am a bit confused…like endurance and resistance training affects “attributes “ to my understanding, and not some “hiden” condition heart thats gonna make players be less tired as the season goes on… So why put training like this as if it affects something non attribute related. Man this confused me and if i got this wrong then I got everything wrong when it comes to training..
There are physical attributes that they would improve; strength, stamina, etc. And I think it lowers chance of injury or fatigue throughout the season. At least that how it would be irl.
The purpose of this is to maximise fitness with the long terms benefits to that season being obvious but do you know if this focus has a small negative impact on technical development? (Or was it answered in the video and I didn’t listen)
So should the endurance and quickness/resistance training be repeated every week for a total of 4 weeks, or should we just use it once and then switch to regular training?
I like to let the coaches set it up then I'll tweak it throughout the season. Usually in the lead up to a game. Don't want to be working on my defensive work if I'm Man Utd and I'm playing Lincoln in the league cup. Got to be careful though. Got to get that defensive training in at some point not long after.
Regarding the coach assignments, I usually have one (or sometimes more) coaches that are assigned to basically all training fields in order to lessen the load. It's often the assman since I hire him for his evaluation skills, not coaching. My question is if this affects the training negatively in any way?
hey man great work on the channel! I have a question for you. one that you might be able to answer in a video. do we have proof that different attributes perform differently based on tactics? position and role being the same. easiest example i could think of is a fast centerback in a system with a high line against a slow one. we would expect al lthing equal the fast player would perform better in a high line system. I ask this because if we find proof that the tactic we play effects player performance based on certain attributes. we can then make the assumption that almost all tactics are viable if we have the right players for them. if you see this and you have the time to set somehting like this up I would very much appreciate it!
well as i understand it you are talking about using that training program for 3-6 weeks. whan about passing and shooting and deff. after the preseason?
Super excited for this series! I noticed that you have friendlies scheduled for both saturdays and sundays. is there a reason for that or is it better to schedule all on the same day?
Mine has it until you have max tactical familiarity, then outfield becomes a good option definitely. So if it is not the first season and you have a long pre season you can start with outfield. As long as near max tactical familiarity for first game on primary tactic.
I've seen that people are still commenting on this video, so hopefully someone sees this and can help me. I want to implement all of this training, but Zealand uploaded everything to the Steam workshop, which is fine if you own the game via Steam. But I own it via the EPIC platform, rendering the Steam Workshop inaccessible to me. Is there any chance at all someone has uploaded them elsewhere that I'm not aware of? Maybe Zealand has? Something they need to think about when uploading future training/views/skins/etc... the Steam Workshop isn't accessible unless you own the game on Steam :(
during these dark grey heavy workload days, should the "rest" settings remain on standard? (red heart = no pitch or gym work, orange heart = half intensity etc.)? I mean wouldn't this interfere here quite a lot?
When I set up preseason training this way the intensity bars are either orange or red. I’m in English league 2. Is this because of my team’s relatively lower stamina and natural fitness attributes?
Hey Zealand... Do you know if it makes sense to always go for the minimum wage possible for yourself in signing a contract, so it hurts the club's finances the least possible? Or that affects something like reputation and it would be harder to sign higher reputation players? Greetings from Brazil!
As far as i know you will have a higher chance of getting fired. The less you get paid. since the club will have to "compensate" you for the rest of your contract.
I grabbed the five youth training schedules to try out, but I'm Nantes in Ligue 1, so in my situation, my U19 team is in a competitive league with matches and my reserves team has no games unless I schedule friendlies. In such a case, do you think I should use the "competitive games" training schedule for both of them, and not use the "non-competitive" U19 schedule?
Zealand can you make a video about preparing for a BIG match. Champions League / Cup Finals or similar? How to maximise your chances to succeed in those one of matches against very good teams.
Is 4 games and a load of pre-season training in 5 weeks going to get the players to the highest level of match sharpness, or is 6 games and slightly less pre-season training going to be more effective in getting the highest possible match sharpness before the first game of the season?
i got a question tho, but my player did develop okay with my training. my younger player develop superbly(with enough game time here and there). but most of them said they are unhappy with high quickness training while some even demanding more quickness training(it said something along "playername " feel that he need more quickness training). the problem is but i don't even set quickness training. help
Yeah my 4 key players all got injured at the end of preseason for the first 2 weeks to 2 months of the season on this training schedule. Very disappointing
Hey guys 👋 I’ve started playing FM after nearly 15 years and I’m overwhelmed by all of the information. Especially training is making me mad. I used the custom schedule from Ze’s Land training videos but players start to complain, is there any better training schedule or anyone having a Tipp what I should swap from time to time to keep them happy?
Damn, I'm already after preseason in my St Pauli save. And I really bottled it. Ah, well. Let's hope I get a third year at the helm to implement this training regim
I'm having the exact opposite effect on my players that this video is saying will happen and now I'm fearing I'm going to have to VERY carefully manage my players fitness levels. In each match, I'm noticing all of my players' heart icons are going way down into the red towards the end, whereas usually its just two or three at the end of the 90 minutes. My head physio is coming to me a lot more often already to raise fitness concerns and I'm only at the end of October. I'm having to start players who's heart icons haven't fully recovered after each game now. very confused, don't think I did anything wrong. will almost certainly be going back to my usual pre-season rather than using this. anyone else been having issues with this?
Got Anything for 14 matches in 5 weeks ( 2/ 3 matches a week and they can be any day but Mon / Wed in the League) ... after a month a half winter break with 2 of those being CL / EUFA Elimination phase (and usually at terrible player condition) lol?
You helped me finally have the confidence to give FM a go. It genuinely changed my life for the better. Thank you Zealand.
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Having started playing FM20, I've gone from having just about everything delegated, and gradually taking more control over time...training is the last on my delegated list, so I'm looking forward to this series!!! (Also kept the vid playing while typing this so now I gotta start over 🤦🏻♂️)
seconding this. Got everything under my control like a certain AI in a couple of relatively popular movies - except that damned Zion.. I mean Training. So glad i can grasp that aswell now.
I must be doing it wrong, when I started (FM21) I loved sorting the training and experimenting with it all. The thing I could never wrap my head around was signing/resigning players, I would just accept whatever they asked for wage wise and wondered why I didn’t have enough in my budget to resign my top players 🤦🏻♂️.
hey man what did you start delegating to yourself first what was your list
Awesome of them to help the community like that!
Usually I don’t praise my players if they’re below an 8 in training. Usually they get complacent or stagnate in their effort. If I praise 8+ usually everyone will follow suit and put more effort into a training session.
Only if they score a 9.something for me
@@nicholasgiles500 Yea, that's what I hope to eventually transition to!
@@Christian_Bagger if you praise people too often it becomes useless and will actually have a negative effect. The players will turn around and say it means nothing as you say it all the time. You need to be aware not to constantly tell the same player time after time too that's why I only do it with 9s
@@nicholasgiles500 Yea, that’s why I keep it to praising them either every 2nd week or once a month. You’re right it will have a negative impact whether it’s upfront or under the hood.
@@nicholasgiles500 Same i find if you gradually up that to 9.75 more people hit it
It's great to hear this is the most optimal option. I have been playing like that since FM20 and it always had great results. However, if a player really wants to see those arrows going up, they really need to play with younger players. That's where the game is most fun, seeing your youngsters becoming great players. With similar training I have seen upwards to 47 points gained in all attributes in a year. I could barely believe my eyes.
Young players and Model Citizen veterans to teach them their ways. 😃
(Semi-)Pro Tip:
Train attacking set-pieces as early and for as long as possible in preseason, so that your team would have something to rely on for goals while they are still gaining tactical familiarity
Set piece training will only give a boost for the following 2 or 3 matches. It needs to be part of your training every week or two to maintain that bonus. But yeah, definitely make it part of your preseason preparations too.
Set piece distribution works better.
@@stevensmith2464 that's the aim, basically. Get an edge for the early games while the team is settling in the tactic. And ofc, keeping it going throughout the season is good, and I cannot recommend it enough.
I've been doing 1 game for the first two weeks of preseason, and for weeks 3-5 (or however many there are) two games a week, with a full rotation (2 different teams) so everyone is sharp at the beginning of the season. I've been using the schedules that some creator made once, can't remember if it was RDF or Fox, I think for FM21, as a guide, just as a way to not start from scratch (like, already have match preview and review, recovery, etc., it saves time), and then editing them to fulfill my teams needs. Scheduling training is not only hard to get right on your own but also tedious, so anything that can help understand it better and save time is more than welcome! Thanks Z!
I feel like you have been in my search history looking for video ideas!
Up there with the best videos you've ever made.
Zaz is a well-known researcher of some of the very best tactics, he seems to be a very BIG fan of training Pace/Acceleration as these attributes are said to be the by far most important. Did this testing dwelve deeper into this issue?
I second this.
Yeah they (FM-Arena / ZAZ) did a simulated league with all stats at 20 then reducing a specific stat.
They found that making pace, accel, balance , dribbling worse had the biggest impact so concluded they must be the most important attributes for the match engine.
Although this doesn’t account for tactical set up.
In general it seems to be about right since pacey, dribbling, wingers , forwards, and attacking midfielders /CM’s seem to consistently put up the best match ratings.
Also the best stats for wingbacks seems to be pace/accel and dribbling since going forward and also playing inverted to dribble into the middle are so effective in the ME
@@joshuajones3728 well its also depends on tactical style
ZaZ is a god.
Yeah, came here to type this. Ever since I switched to ZaZ's schedules based on FM-Arena's testing things have been golden.
This video comes up when i was done with my preseason. What a timing
I always organize multiple friendlies against my reserves team in pre-season. Really good way of gauging where your entire squad is at.
I pretty much always tend to start the season slowly and it puts me in the back foot, tried this training and had the best season I think I have ever had so will give a lot of credit to the pre season training!
I'm playing in Norway and the pre-season starts like three months before the first league game. How long do you keep that intensive schedule going for that Z highlighted in the video? How many friendlies? How soon before the first league game etc?
@@TheMattB81 I did it for the first 3 weeks of training and just had friendlies on Saturdays. Playing in the premier league so that probably then leaves me about 3 more weeks to go back to tactical/technical training and usually 2 friendliest a week.
I have never done my own training. Ever. Since champ manager day. But if this is going to be a full on help and guide, training will now be a full hands on thing I do. Like scouting became. Thank you to u and your team for making this game even more indepth and time consuming! 😂
Don't forget lower leagues trainings! (semi-pro, amateur). They have only 3 days worth training with 2 slots...
Currently Im doing like this,
Mon-Unavailable;
Tue-Physical,Endurance;
Wed-Friendly match;
Tue-Resistance, Quickness;
Fri-Unavailable;
Sat-Physical, Endurance;
Sun-Friendly match.
Is there a point in physically training your semi pro players ? Wouldn't it be better throw in a physical training here and there while focusing entirely on match preparation so that they can be at their best during the match ? I mean, if I were part of my local side, being asked to train how to move while on the attack or how to stay in Defensive shape would be of more use instead of trying to to be stronger and faster than everybody else
@@vesuvianblack4884 That is my training in pre season as an amateur/semi pro AFTER having my team's cohesion to max! When I started my save my training was completed different.
At start of a new save I wanted my team to have the most cohesion/tactic familiarity maxed as much as possible and fast as possible, That makes a huge difference trust me! In about 4 to 5 months you will have almost max. You want to have always (if possible) 2 friendly's or a friendly and a match day. You don's play both with the same players. Your FIRST 11 plays the match day the friendly you play your 2nd 11's. that way no risk of injurys and your whole squad will/is fit!
So went like this,
Mon-Unavailable;
Tue-Teamwork,Team Bonding;
Wed-Friendly match;
Tue-Att. Movement, Teamwork;
Fri-Unavailable;
Sat-Teamwork, Match Tactics;
Sun-Friendly match/Match day
Try it and say how it went!
I already do this, but then, I'm a psychopath who manages his friendlies.... (and the reserves. in fact, a total control freak).
Also, the day following a match will almost always consist of "recovery", "match review" & "team bonding" (yes, team bonding, even during the season - I have the happiest squad, even with 50 odd players at the club)
I always check if there aren't any players in my first team that could go get some maych fitness. Sometimes I even take a weaker player on the bench to allow a better impact sub to get a full game if the scheduling collides :D
You need help.
But so do I...because I also manage my reserves and friendlies......
Im a huge proponent of team bonding sessions. Keeps so many players happy if done right
team bonding gives a teamwork boost for the next match, its great
I manage my friendlies, but even I'm concerned about the well being of your loved ones if you're managing reserves too 😅
It would be interesting seeing how this needs to be adjusted for lower-league part-timers
Hahaha yeah. Never tried semi pro
Train physique only. Worked for me.
I spent 3 and a half succesful seasons at semi pro Brackley. Four sessions a week only allowed. I Focused on always having at least one match practice, seems to do everything. One overall, and then you have to vary. I threw in chance conversion a lot as I was usually already very dominant, and wanted to focus on finishing our chances
WARNING: it is true that you shouldn't get injuries if you make sure that the individual workload is not higher than medium. However, the workload changes constantly, especially if you set the intensity level to automatic, so you have to check every player on your team day to day.
I was checking every week and got burned by my 4 first team players including main GK getting injured before CL qualifiers (this never happened before). Personally, its too much micro-management for me so I went back to using default schedules but other than that the rest of the tips and guides on training by Z are great.
I started a few weeks ago but your videos have extremely helped thanks
This is well timed as I'm about to get a club into league 2 and we will be forced to become a professional club so I'll have more training sessions than previously. I would try and get match sharpness by having an intense period of games before the season. Usually out of financial necessity.
Been waiting on this
so clutch, great stuff!!!
" Zealand is finally doing a training video! " ( I fire up the save and delete 5 or 6 saved routines that I rarely use )
Video ends.
"Oh. he only covered preseason in the video "
( stares at the now mostly empty custom schedule screen....)
Go to RDF video's video on training and check my post. I pretty much nailed pre season training so good chance I nailed the rest.
My dude I am so sorry, schedules coming soon for midseason situations
Maybe bad luck, but my first time trying your preseason schedule and following all instructions I've had SO many injuries during preseason and the first few weeks of the season. Like the most I've ever seen. I don't know if I'd risk it again.
Fun thing i always do with coach assignments is that i always hire a dirt-cheap shitty coach to be the guy running around holding clip boards, setting up cones, and bringing water to the players. I assign him to help in every single category and view him as a very well-paid water boy :)
I do this too! “It’s A Great way to reduce the workload of your main coach for each type of training
yo you work super hard zealand. Mad Respect.
I am too interested to not figure things out
Zealand has an Orlando City Kit! That’s awesome, I live out here in Orlando and I’m saving up to be able to go to my first Football Game!
Thanks Z, training session is the least i take control 👌
I have been doing two friendlies a week for the last three FMs, always have the lowest number of injuries in a season.
The trick is to not go full balls to the wall with physical preseason, instead doing intense training for the first week (with one or no friendly, normal intensity and no additional focus), and then some dark blue and light blue (match prep) trainings for a week or two, and then moving into individual attack (green) and defence (purple) sessions, along with the technical sessions that make sense for your tactic (reenable additional focus, keep first team on normal intensity and bump up squad players to double).
Keep this up, and play your last friendly one week before your first game, you will be miles ahead of any other team in terms of match sharpness by now and should cruise easily through the first month. You should have played around 8 friendlies, and I religiously give each player 45 mins regardless of fitness/sharpness. So you should have 22 players ready to go when the season hits.
Zealand's videos are informative, but I'm sorry, I just didn't find this one to be an accurate representation of my own findings handling all my training myself.
One of the key parts of pre-season for me is arranging mini-Leagues. These mini-leagues pull in mega$$$$ for my club. What this means is that for the 4 weeks of training, I have matches on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday against the most prestigious clubs I can. For smaller clubs, this cash influx is crucial. When I'm at bigger clubs, I arrange preseason tours. Ideally, I play 2 matches in China, 2 in Japan, 2 in South Korea then try to squeeze in 4 in the USA. For the big clubs, I can increase the cash flow by garnering fans across the globe. Any suggestions on how to balance making money and your preseason fitness?
Hopefully this gets answered for once... Zealand trains all players in 'Roles' so does WorkThe Space and BusttheNet.. its been asked loads of times on SI forums but no clear answer. Training players in roles can lead to poor position/role/duty Familiarity if the trained role and playing roles don't match.. so what do these training experts say about this. Important or Not? Do these experts train player's in NON playing roles to best improve attributes? Do they switch to playing roles to improve familiarity?
any experiments on player development coming? Would be really interesting to test for example what age players develop by how much CA with which personality etc. etc.
Great video Z. I aim to get match fitness and tactical familiarity up as quick as possible in pre-season. However, I play two games a week. But, by the end of the pre-season I may have over done it as a few players are fatigued and can't cope. Maybe hammering them with the endurance and quickness/resistance will help build them up, and they get to recover by playing only one game a week. Although, my team like to take part in tours so I feel obliged to play 2 matches in a week.
I can't wait for the next episodes to see how your training plans compare to mine. In the season, I aim to concentrate on unit specific training. EG in the morning Patient attacking and in the afternoon, defending disengaged. Another day, Wing attack and defending wide. Plus match tactics, teamwork, attack positioning and defensive positioning just before the match.
Would be cool to understand how the AI is programmed to develop players, is it influenced by training and youth facilities, game time, coaches, club rep, training schedules.
Training develops players, although after their 18th birthday they will also need games to properly develop
Gametime is the biggest factor in development; good training and mentoring can only get you so far, either mentoree learns all he can or he needs starting minutes to maximize his training and growth potential.
Damn, I just started a new season and because of this upcoming series I'm going to come back to my pre-season save and do everything as stated
Shoutout to that Orlando jersey!!
You should do a video about contract negotiations. Extend contracts early, stay friends with agents etc. Most important part of FM22.
There is a trade-off you can do if you need more money (from friendlies with high reputation) and are willing to give up training spots but *not* injuries: Trialists.
They are allowed to play in friendlies, so you can play your own team about half the time or less (reducing injury risk), so that you can play friendlies two or three times a week if you need a cash injection.
Note that this is likely most relevant in the lower leagues, or in nations with very low achievement-based prizes. If you're in the Bundesliga or Serie A or something, the money you'll make from placing well (or avoiding relegation) is going to make the friendly money look like pocket change. In Vanarama North? Not so much.
The day zealand refers to his videos as ‘content’ is the day I am done with TH-cam
I use 2 matches a week. Each player plays a full 90 minutes this week (except for those 3 who get switched out for the younglings in a 25-man system) in the preseason. I never use the endurance and "heavy" lifting at all, as I've had poor results with injuries. And I've never had any problems with fatigue and other things as well.
(What would be neat tho, is that the Ass.manager, if allowed would move other trainers around if some training gets heavy to avoid injuries)
Also training role also assists with tactical familiarity gain if they play that role. Making it even more important. Leading own friendly matches and the 60/30 minute split also there in the RDF post pretty sure. Or have also just been doing that.
Thanks for the great tips Z *delegates training to assistant manager*
I applied this in season 4, after playing very consistently well in previous seasons, I'm now 1-11 in the league and losing the dressing room. 🤣
Usually all the tips and "tricks" I get from this channel are spot on, but I might be getting the sack at this rate.
Hey Sean, do you still have a job?
never set up my training before but i'm sure i will be now. thanks
I concentrate on physical and match related tactical training in the preseason as well. It's really the only way to get your team ready. And if you're like me and you like to have a big squad, schedule two friendlies per week so your AssMan rotates through all your players (hopefully). If you don't trust him to do that, set your lineups then sim the matches.
I always get complaints that players think we do too much x. (usually something physical like quickness training) if I stash the pre season with physical segments. Once they start to complain, their training rating goes down. Nearly my entire squad scored between a rating of 5 to a 7; nearly everyone was below 6.5. In my experience, doing specific physical training is not too efficient on mondays because a lot of players are still recovering after a (Friendly) match. Players still recovering won't take part in that training making it useless. It's possible to adapt that, but forcing players to take part anyway significantly increases the chance of exhaustion and injury.
What works for me is to stash the training schedule with tactical and technical aspects or general segments (attack/defense/overall/outfield). I'd only do physical segments like quickness/endurance/resistance during the middle of the week on weeks I only play 1 match a week. I'd try to do 1 segment of set piece delivery/att free kick/att corners once in every 3 or 4 weeks.
Often on a monday, there's a standard physical segment. Assuming the match was played on saturday and I do recovery and team bonding on sunday, I prefer to move it to a monday and put goalkeeping/tactics/teamwork on the last segment to make the tuesday not too taxing. Goalkeepers barely get tired anyway so goalkeeping segments seem fine as filler. Avoid orange for intensity at all times. The day before the match I do fill the schedule but with lighter segments keeping intensity at a darker green.
This worked for me. The vast majority of my team usually scores an 8+ rating in training with only about once in 4 months someone scoring lower than a 6.50. Praising everyone that scores higher than a 7.8/8 a week is a bit of a chore, but a free morale booster leading to even better results on the pitch and training.
fc groningen represents
Oh i needed this badly, doing a rtg save with St Albans and the young High potential ones just aren't growing, hopefully this helps me
You said a good season preparation gives them more strength later in the season, I am wondering where can you actually check the fitness of your team (aside from attributes which progress way too slowly for that) I mean, a green heart cannot become more green.
Pleaseee I know its been 4 months, did you ever get answer to this? I just saw this video and we are thinking the same..like endurance and resistance affects “attributes “ to my understanding, and not some “hiden” condition thats gonna make players be less tired during as the season goes on… Man this confused me and if ingot this wrong then I got everything wrong when it comes to training..
Nice at home weekly friendlies in pre season, was already doing that. Also sorry can I get some credits on that pre season training? I wrote it out pretty much in the RDF training video. Or is it a great minds think alike thing? Even the chance conversion instead of Match tactics thing is mine. I have an old imgur file link to prove it that get's removed by youtube or you can check the posts I made in RDF's video
First thought that popped into my mind reminded me this what you came up with in the RDF video discussion lul
@@lewisharrison782 Yeah it is odd indeed. Could be an honest mistake on Z's part however his researches might have been inspired by my stuff without informing Z. And I would like some credits tbh.
I have low interesting in doing much tactical in that first week or two of pre season. All about building up that fitness
Hi Zealand, thanks for the video. I'm wondering how to choose what training to apply individually to each player and I hope it is covered in this training series you are putting out! Cheers.
Training is done by units, attacking defending goalkeeping. For individuals you change position/role and extra focus but all training is dictated by the training unit they are in and the scheduled training sessions.
@@SimersFM Cool - any tips on how to pick the best "extra focus" ? Fill in weak spots with the player's game or try to improve stats important to their role? i.e. midfielder = passing
@@NyctoGaming it’s a really good question that you have to ask yourself on each player as this answer will depend on the player and what role you are asking them to do. I would say if there is a glaring weak attribute that is important to the role (highlighted in green) then that’s a good place to start. Set the player to train a specific position/role and see if there is anything glaring. If not, try to boost physical or technicals for younger players and maybe switch more so to mentals on older ones. Ultimately it just depends on the specific player though. Older players also are generally going to improve less and depending on potential you may be better off not asking to additionally focus.
Nice video! I do struggle sometimes on training. Hope this helps🤣
Nice vid as always Zealand do you have a suggested part timers training schedule for the English conference leagues?
Yes! Zealand training videos. Can't wait for the rest of the series 🤓
Is there a reason you cant take control of the U19/18 starting lineups? and if you cant how do you ensure they substitute so all the youngsters can play? Ive had games where they only make one substitute and the entire team is beat, with healthy guys on the sideline. It makes no sense.
I play a match every 4 days, at the beginning of pre season I have about 50 players, I use a different 11 every match depending on the match sharpness and workload. It is advisable not to play any friendly in the first week of the pre season.
Yeah same, you could however schedule a game for the reservers or U18s(or whatever your team has) for the other players to not mess with your training schedule.
Pleaseee anyone can help out with explaining the logic here..I just saw this video and I am a bit confused…like endurance and resistance training affects “attributes “ to my understanding, and not some “hiden” condition heart thats gonna make players be less tired as the season goes on… So why put training like this as if it affects something non attribute related. Man this confused me and if i got this wrong then I got everything wrong when it comes to training..
There are physical attributes that they would improve; strength, stamina, etc. And I think it lowers chance of injury or fatigue throughout the season. At least that how it would be irl.
The purpose of this is to maximise fitness with the long terms benefits to that season being obvious but do you know if this focus has a small negative impact on technical development? (Or was it answered in the video and I didn’t listen)
So should the endurance and quickness/resistance training be repeated every week for a total of 4 weeks, or should we just use it once and then switch to regular training?
The best way to train is to leave it for your coaches
That’s the only way to do it. I’m like sir Alex Ferguson letting my coaches handling training
Nooooo, I do individual training and the schedule (calendar)
I like to let the coaches set it up then I'll tweak it throughout the season. Usually in the lead up to a game. Don't want to be working on my defensive work if I'm Man Utd and I'm playing Lincoln in the league cup. Got to be careful though. Got to get that defensive training in at some point not long after.
Not in a game
@@kingofws you're a better man than me
I normally just play a friendly every two days. I have 2 XI for each half and training is very lax
Regarding the coach assignments, I usually have one (or sometimes more) coaches that are assigned to basically all training fields in order to lessen the load. It's often the assman since I hire him for his evaluation skills, not coaching. My question is if this affects the training negatively in any way?
No it does not. Leading coach set the standard. Is not real life, is math :)
hey man great work on the channel! I have a question for you. one that you might be able to answer in a video.
do we have proof that different attributes perform differently based on tactics? position and role being the same.
easiest example i could think of is a fast centerback in a system with a high line against a slow one. we would expect al lthing equal the fast player would perform better in a high line system.
I ask this because if we find proof that the tactic we play effects player performance based on certain attributes. we can then make the assumption that almost all tactics are viable if we have the right players for them.
if you see this and you have the time to set somehting like this up I would very much appreciate it!
Great question
great vid zealand guys do u do that same schedule for 4 weeks then ?
well as i understand it you are talking about using that training program for 3-6 weeks. whan about passing and shooting and deff. after the preseason?
Super excited for this series! I noticed that you have friendlies scheduled for both saturdays and sundays. is there a reason for that or is it better to schedule all on the same day?
probably to save the fatigue from matches to endurance training
You need a "Match Review" after every match for tactical familiarity.
Mine has it until you have max tactical familiarity, then outfield becomes a good option definitely. So if it is not the first season and you have a long pre season you can start with outfield. As long as near max tactical familiarity for first game on primary tactic.
Hyde Hill Review also helps Team Cohesion
I've seen that people are still commenting on this video, so hopefully someone sees this and can help me.
I want to implement all of this training, but Zealand uploaded everything to the Steam workshop, which is fine if you own the game via Steam. But I own it via the EPIC platform, rendering the Steam Workshop inaccessible to me. Is there any chance at all someone has uploaded them elsewhere that I'm not aware of? Maybe Zealand has? Something they need to think about when uploading future training/views/skins/etc... the Steam Workshop isn't accessible unless you own the game on Steam :(
Did you manage to download it?
Any link for Game Pass users?
during these dark grey heavy workload days, should the "rest" settings remain on standard? (red heart = no pitch or gym work, orange heart = half intensity etc.)? I mean wouldn't this interfere here quite a lot?
Would this preseason training also work during, say, the 2022 Qatar WC break where we have two months off but none of my players are competing?
For those of us that aren't using the steam version, is there somewhere else where we could download these schedules?
Working on it
Love this, thanks
Hi @Zealand, can you upload the training schedule outside of steam, please ?
Hellow! This apllies to fm2020 as well? Tks!!
Is there a direct download rather than Steam.. The one on steam doesn't seem to be working
When I set up preseason training this way the intensity bars are either orange or red. I’m in English league 2. Is this because of my team’s relatively lower stamina and natural fitness attributes?
Hey Zealand... Do you know if it makes sense to always go for the minimum wage possible for yourself in signing a contract, so it hurts the club's finances the least possible? Or that affects something like reputation and it would be harder to sign higher reputation players? Greetings from Brazil!
As far as i know you will have a higher chance of getting fired. The less you get paid. since the club will have to "compensate" you for the rest of your contract.
I grabbed the five youth training schedules to try out, but I'm Nantes in Ligue 1, so in my situation, my U19 team is in a competitive league with matches and my reserves team has no games unless I schedule friendlies. In such a case, do you think I should use the "competitive games" training schedule for both of them, and not use the "non-competitive" U19 schedule?
Zealand can you make a video about preparing for a BIG match. Champions League / Cup Finals or similar? How to maximise your chances to succeed in those one of matches against very good teams.
Can you please explain general training in football manager touch
im confused, my pre season schedules arent 1 game a week, in the second week there were 2 games so i had to cancel one, should i cancel games?
what about the rfd trainings ?
the schedule link is for steam, what about the folks plaing on gamepass?
Is 4 games and a load of pre-season training in 5 weeks going to get the players to the highest level of match sharpness, or is 6 games and slightly less pre-season training going to be more effective in getting the highest possible match sharpness before the first game of the season?
Z, is 'might not have the ability' has the possibility to reach its potential?
i got a question tho, but my player did develop okay with my training. my younger player develop superbly(with enough game time here and there). but most of them said they are unhappy with high quickness training while some even demanding more quickness training(it said something along "playername " feel that he need more quickness training). the problem is but i don't even set quickness training. help
I tried this on FM21 at the beginning of preseason... I have 7 injuries and 2 of them are long term to the 2 key players in my team :'D
Yeah my 4 key players all got injured at the end of preseason for the first 2 weeks to 2 months of the season on this training schedule. Very disappointing
Big thanks man
Hey guys 👋 I’ve started playing FM after nearly 15 years and I’m overwhelmed by all of the information. Especially training is making me mad. I used the custom schedule from Ze’s Land training videos but players start to complain, is there any better training schedule or anyone having a Tipp what I should swap from time to time to keep them happy?
What about a pre season in lets say Norway?
It's maybe 7-10 weeks with pre season before the League start.
How to do the training there? :)
Would this work in fm2021 I don't have money for the 2022
Damn, I'm already after preseason in my St Pauli save. And I really bottled it. Ah, well. Let's hope I get a third year at the helm to implement this training regim
I'm having the exact opposite effect on my players that this video is saying will happen and now I'm fearing I'm going to have to VERY carefully manage my players fitness levels. In each match, I'm noticing all of my players' heart icons are going way down into the red towards the end, whereas usually its just two or three at the end of the 90 minutes. My head physio is coming to me a lot more often already to raise fitness concerns and I'm only at the end of October. I'm having to start players who's heart icons haven't fully recovered after each game now. very confused, don't think I did anything wrong. will almost certainly be going back to my usual pre-season rather than using this. anyone else been having issues with this?
Same issue. Even co assistant doing better job
@@kaizet552 you need to do a hard pre season if you’re planning on training hard all year. If that’s the problem.
Got any training tips for part-time teams?
Any chance to upload the file somewhere else, for those who own FM in Epic?
Got Anything for 14 matches in 5 weeks ( 2/ 3 matches a week and they can be any day but Mon / Wed in the League) ... after a month a half winter break with 2 of those being CL / EUFA Elimination phase (and usually at terrible player condition) lol?
I went onto Steam and Subscribed, but nothing downloaded. What am I doing wrong?
I'm playing FM from my Epic account, so, there is a way to download the schedules?