The North Face Thermoball Eco VS. Patagonia Micro Puff - Jacket Battle
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- The North Face Thermoball Eco VS. Patagonia Micro Puff gear review Jacket Battle. Bother these jackets are synthetic insolation, but what is the beet one to go with? In this video we go over the differences and the pros and cons.
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Great review for these jackets, I own both and agree with most of this review.
I own more TNF jackets, packs etc and the biggest selling point for me is how all TNF jackets will zip into a shell and gives me so many options depending on the weather, I like that option to zip in a vest, fleece and thermoball jacket.
I do like my micropuff jacket over my nanopuff jacket and I usually get the hoodie version of either.
Hey man! Many thanks to you and your detailed comparisons and reviews. It helped me a lot to finally choose to get Patagonia Micro Puff. And yeah, your remarks about how jacket fit and temperature you are starting getting cold are my absolute champions. 😁
Awesome a glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching
The nano puff here is probably the better option for wearing around town but if you’re going to wear it in the wilderness I’d opt for the brighter colors of the TNF in case something happens to you (makes it easier for rescue choppers to locate you when wearing bright colors).
Yes that’s a good point for bright colors for sure
the thermoball 2.0 seems to have much less stichings squares... also the quality of the sintetic insulation is different/better? thanks
This is the thermoballl eco 1.0, and haven’t tried the 2.0 yet, but hopefully I can get my hands on it soon and review it
I own at least 5 puff jackets but use mostly the Micropuff since the moment I bought it, around two years now. Wouldn't trade it for anything.
The thermoball looks awesome! Both are great jackets!
There is something so sharp looking about TNF.
It hard to believe that the micro puff keep to warm better than thermoball, i think that the weight of the fill is critical determinant
THANKS to use GRAMS in weight too! LOVE!
I have both now. Micropuff and Eco 2.0, both 2024 models. The thermaball is quite warm, actually, but a little more. but the ZIPPER, even though it is made by YKK, is plasticky and gets stuck at the bottom. a pitty because it is a cool jacket, and North Face makes much better color than Patagonia!
I do need to get the 2024 thermoball, my is several years old so I’m sure it’s under went some updates and is probably time for a updated comparison
Where synthetics really shine vis a vis down is the fact that they will dry much much faster than down. Drying down in the field is hell.
Both great jackets. I have, and love the micro puff. It is surprisingly tough, but fails when it comes to puppy teeth 🤦🏼♀️
I guess that’s why they make gear aid tape...lol
Haha yeah. Keep out or reach of dogs teeth 😂
the ECO is the 2.0?
This is eco 1.0, which is the older model of thermoball. I haven’t looked at the newer eco 2.0 yet
I think, it is not a very fair comparison: Patagonia Micro Puff jacket is far more technical, and aimed at harsh mountain activities, than TNF Thermoball jacket, which is more a "sportive streetwear insulated jacket". Prices are not the same at all, and TNF Thermoball jackets are far easier to find with huge sales (i have several, with and without hoods, and have never paid more than half the regular price, even on official TNF site; with Patagonia, it is harder to have more than 30% rebate).
Comparison between Thermoball and Nano Puff seems more balanced, but even then, I find that Patagonia Nano Puff jackets are more technical and suited to sportive activities.
But when it is about streetwear and time to time sports activities, TNF Thermoball can push forward its sturdiness.
About its shape, you should go a size up; that's simple.
In fact, for streetwear, I have chosen TNF Thermoball or Patagonia Nano puff; for mountain activities, I go for Patagonia DAS Light or directly a down jacket (with down treated for water repellancy); nothing has better ratio than real down.
Dude I’m shopping for this TNF jacket right now LOL if you have any sites you can link with good prices that you remember I’d greatly appreciate it. The one I’m looking at on the actual TNF site is the 2 piece jacket(Men’s ThermoBall™ Eco Triclimate® Jacket) and it seems perfect for me being in NYC. Warmth for winter and a nice lil spring jacket when it warms up.
Also, im 6ft and not very skinny but also not close to being overweight so I’m assuming a large is a good size to go for. Not too worried about layering since the jackets come as a layered combo anyway.
Sizing up doesn't necessarily work. Sometimes it's still just not suited to one's body shape. Both of these jackets are at home on the trail or the street.
Great video and comparison
Thanks!
great review!
Good video unfortunately I always have to go with Patagonia or Rab for fit I'm 6'4" and 220lbs. All the other companies like TNF seems like they were modeled by kids sleeves way too short. Maybe you can do a comparison of Patagonia Nano puff or Micro vs Rab Xenon.
I’m 5’10. I weigh 169. What size should I get for both
I think a medium would fit well. But depends on your arm length. Probably measure to be safe. Could be a large if u want to layer under it
Despite already owning the nano puff, I just grabbed the thermoball eco hoody for 44.99 in a Ross: Dress for Less. #winning!
Great deal
which would you recommend from both, and can you share why? I'm looking to buy one for a hiking trip
@@Fduthoy for me, of the two, the thermoball seems to be the warmest. Both do well as far as synthetic insulation in regards to moisture: sweat/rain. The nano puff is more casual and I tend to wear it “out” and to work more often. I own a few jackets and honestly can’t beat a quality down jacket.
right on boss, thanks for the quick reply
@@ADyess086
Good video. I don't really care if a jacket is "eco" or not, I care about two things...how it looks and will it keep me warm
That’s because you’re a selfish American narcissist lol
@@serious409 Nope. I would assume most people think the same way when buying a jacket. Whether the jacket is eco or not wouldn't be a deciding factor on my purchase on jacket....
@VD Really.....You better watch out you might die..... 🤦♂️
@@vdvdvdvdvdvdvd000but it's true. Most of us are tree huggers.
What weight do you have and what size are you carrying from the micro puff?
i weigh 140 lbs and both these jackets are a men's small
@@BackcountryRenegade Hello, what is your height?
@@yermakhanmaulet2437 5'7
how is the sleeve length between the two? I normally find TNF sleeves to be super long.. although my thermoball jacket sleeve is just right. was wondering if the Patagonia is the same sleeve length
Patagonia is a bit longer on the sleeve
any news or better models/improvements in 2024? thanks
got the new micropuff for 2024, will be doing some reviews shortly with the updates.
thanks @@BackcountryRenegade
Thermoball is a disaster if you want to use it while weather is cold. They are no way near to a down jacket at the same price tag.
i agree, basically paying for the fashion and name at this point
27 ° never !!!!! Ridiculous ✌️
Surprised you said the Micro Puff is "super durable" Most other reviews mention how non-durable the Micro Puff is. Its flimsy fabric tears and snags easily in normal use.
Well it depends on the perspective. For me I see way more jackets then the normal person does and have had many with thinner denier. And I know how to treat those. Those who are used to thicker denier likely will say it’s flimsy. But in the ultralight world this is pretty durable
you ever heard of corrupt youtubers? Micro Puff is not durable at all. It looses fill and is only 10D Nylon. Its also known that it will lose insulation with time
@@wasdalosdickarchen 😂 for one who reviews lots of jackets, and many with much less denier, from a ultralight perspective it is durable for what it is. No one is saying its 10d is a great super durable material. Ultralighhters understand, which are likely those who are considering this in the first place
@@BackcountryRenegade Is Thomas Muller correct about the Micro Puff fill losing its loft/insulation? I haven't heard that. In fact, I thought a benefit of synthetic fill was retaining its loft longer than feather down. I bought a Nano Puff jacket and vest for my year round digital nomad life. Hoping they're worth the price. They feel excellent to wear. I love how light they are.
@@danchatka8613 what he is talking about is the insulation leaking, which since the micro uses insulation that resembles down it could leak it like down does at the seams, it looks like strands of hair, but its actually insulation when you pull it. As far as loft, down maintains its loft much longer then synthetic over time. Synthetic naturally breaks down the more it is compressed and can not regain its loft, where down you can wash it and it can regain it. Where synthetic keeps its loft is when as jacket gets wet, synthetic maintains is much better and down will crumple up
Micropuff is such a lame name for such a cool jacket
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