A true paleo diet would be tons of plants. 100g of fibre a day but the people promoting paleo seem to forget that. You aren't getting 100g of fibre from what today's paleo people eat. Only from the actual Paleolithic Era.
As a botanist/plant ecologist I get to work with indigenous people somewhat regularly. They are very interested in accessing a wide variety of culturally important food plants.
"those plants never existed before" *lol* Who's telling him about the animals humans eat today & how they didn't exist like this like just 150 years ago.. Edit: Oh, you already did 😅
Actually, most plants didn't exist today. They were too toxic or provided too little energy for humans. Plant animals eat almost all day long. Carnivores eat very little compared to Plant eating animals.
@aeoneditingservice thanks for showing me you know nothing. Herbivore dinosaurs (aka before humans, came along. Also, the planet was much more lush.) Also had to eat all day long. Also, there has always been pollution, valcanos, meteors, radiation from the sun, etc. How do you not know any of this? Did you not go to school or just be not interested and look this up.
Also, it's extremely wasteful for a plant to make large fruit. Its primary goal is to reproduce. Not put large amounts of energy into something that's going to be eaten. Something like a banana would have never existed in nature. The original banana witch had tuns of seads in them, which were genetically modified by humans. All in the name of human consumption.
While it’s correct that the animals they eat today didn’t exist either, the whole argument of basing what we eat today on theories about the past is completely irrelevant. We have actual human health outcome data showing us today which dietary patterns are preferable. End of story.
If he thinks Ken Berry is brilliant then he must know that Ken had 2 disciplinary actions against him since he can't follow rules or his diet destroys his thinking and the Ken Berry book on page 103 he says nuts and seeds are very healthy, the nutrients and fiber are great. Page 187 says I eat many servings of colorful veggies every day. Page 192 says there are many days each week I eat no fiber at all. Page 205 says I often go days without eating anything but fatty meat cooked in either lard or butter. This is how you think when you are confused and weigh 230 pounds.
@@julieowens7095 Not only that but the Ken Berry book has no references in it as I don't think he ever read any studies he just says whatever he wants.
@@lr1732 He never cured or helped any human long term else he would have some awards, honors, inventions, patents or Nobel Prize and he has zero in all 5.
I remember about a year after I went vegan (2017) people were telling me that surely I was going to be deficient in certain things even if symptoms hadn't shown up yet. I wasn't really worried about it but I found myself at the doctors surgery for a routine checkup one day and I told the doctor I had gone vegan about a year ago and I wanted to get a full bloods run down to see if I was deficient in anything. He told me that it was a good idea and although he didn't say the words his tone implied "I'll bet your deficient in loads of things and I'll be recommending meat to you the next time we see each other!" When I came back he hadn't looked at the results yet and when he opened them he looked surprised and he said "You're numbers are all good" and a little further down the page he said "Wow, I mean very good!" The look on his face said that he was experiencing high levels of cognitive dissonance. The moral of the story being that doctors do not know everything and I've found especially regarding nutrition their knowledge can be very lacking. "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food."
Same experience. I started eating whole plant based in September 22. Early December I went to my doctor to have a prescription for blood tests, and she said "Yes, we certainly need to monitor you closely to see what supplements you might be needing because of that diet you've decided to choose". The tone in her voice was clear. My blood test was the best I've had in decades. She was speechless and said: "Well, keep doing whatever you're doing"
Most Americans, even doctors, are still not very knowledgeable about vegan diets. You're more likely to find more awareness outside the US in English-speaking countries.
My GP is very against it no matter how good my labs are. My other doctors are all for it and very aware you can be healthy on a balanced plant based diet.
Animals don't have a voice to defend themselves. Someone have to do it even if that is annoying. Broccoli don't even have a nerve system to feel. But the animals can feel the same pain of a human.
I think people who eat meat are just looking for excuses to keep doing it. As Dr. McDougall said,”people love to hear good news about their bad habits.”
I think people who eat plants are just looking for excuses to keep doing it. As Dr. McDougall said, "people love to hear good news about their bad habits" 🤣
The average life expectancy of the Irish in 1840 B.P. (Before Potato) was 38. In 2023 A.S.T. (Anno Solanum Tuberosum) is 82. With no studies to back me up I’m asserting that it’s all thanks to the Potato.
They didn’t have antibiotics in 1840. The average lifespan was much lower EVERYWHERE! A Civil War Union Officer survived all of the main battles but died of an infection after he skinned his knee when jumping out of the boat after his men rowed him across the Potomac. Typical of how it was back then.
Most vegan idears are opinion and lack science. If fact there is literally zero proper peer reveiwed double blinded studies to support veganism. There is also zero to support carnivour as only the health and food industry are in a financial position to fund them. And why would they when they know the results will kill their multi trillion sales? This is how faulsehoods become doga. Prior to the potatoe coming into Ireland people starved. All the good animal based food was stripped from the country to feed the troops of the British empire. When the potatoe blight came the Irish starved again. The population went down from 8 million and to this day has not recovered. The historical deviations in Irelands historical longevity increase, is not about the type of food avalible but about food (of any sort) availibility.
My family is vegetarian, so I've never eaten meat my whole life. I'm not dead or sick, in fact I'm doing pretty good on my 40's, healthy and young. My meat eaters friends of my age are struggling with all kinds of deseases and premature aging. Meat eaters doctors often dies of gastro intestinal cancer. But they said that the causes of cancer are unknown. They prefers to die in ignorance before they accept the dangers of their loved meat.
All the substances inside hells that imprison farmed animals and kept them very bored, in pain from overgrowth or osteoporosis, stressed, cannot be good for the body..
Vegetarians have done great for 1000s of years, especilly when their dishes swim in Ghee, cheese and milk, like in India. Its when one go 100% plant based, the body, sooner or later start to decay. Just like Mic here, that has to use makeup, lightning and filter the crap out of his videos, not to look like a meth addict with hepatitis. The pale yellownes in his skin is a clear indicator that his health suffers
@@hobogardenerbenI hear you . I love Parmesan cheese and pizza but when i say pizza I mean the real kind with a made from scratch thin crust olive oil fresh tomato base and some cheese , not the junk from dominos etc . I can’t give that up either otherwise don’t eat any animal crap . Ahhhhh pizza Ahhhh pasta with Parmesan 🤷♀️
@@s3731711 she got a bowel impaction, and because she was so elderly she elected not to have the surgery. Instead she went into hospice and died within a few days.
@@lauratanln too bad agriculture also kills tons of animals... Gotta keep those pigs out of the corn fields buddy... And those bugs too, spray tons of chemicals to keep them away... Destroy the natural habitat of many animals to plant your corn...
Why are they always so angry at plants? Why so emotional? Is it because of all of the hormones in meat or dairy? ;) But maybe I agree. It is not a human diet. It is a super-human diet! :) Edit: Don't he dare to touch potatoes and beans! 🤬
@@courag1 Yeah. The efforts that some people will go to suggests to me that on some level they appreciate the argument but just don't want to change their ways. I think a lot of climate change denialism probably stems from this too.
The thing is , these guys make videos for money. A true doctor does not want to harm their patients so they won't wrecklessly claim crazy fad diets like stop eating vegetables and sometimes fruits. Fiber is extremely important for health and if you don't have any fiber in your diet or very little, it can lead to diseases later on in life and these diseases can be deadly.
And how can I digest fiber? Because fiber is not digestible for human. We have plants in our diet for about 10.000 years. Them tell me. How could our ancestors have lived through millions of years without plants? Because we are carnivores, which means we meant to be eating meat, and other animal products, and not plants. Plants were poisonous at that time, and the humans were the one, who created the modern versions of the plants, like apple, or cucumber. The food pyramid is a lie. Scientist were paid off by sugar companies so they can lie about carbs and sugar, so they can exist, and make us ill. Tell me, how could chronic diseases triple, and people are sicker before we switched to a carbs diet? It's really interesting.
Alot of plants are edible, even if some cultures don't think of them as food. Some cultures even use many of them as medicine. Irish peasants before Columbus ate parsnips, which are similar in culinary properties to potatoes. When I lived in the UK, we regularly ate them as food. They look like a beige carrot and taste similar to a potato or a carrot.
@@cookinglivewithlala I love them too, but i have to admit i only know them now because we're getting fresh produce packet from local organic farmer. I've never seen them when i was still eating from mostly grocery store in my pre-vegan days.
One of the biggest problems with social media is that anyone who has "credentials" can post videos filled with nonsense and claim legitimacy. There is no way an average viewer can tell what is what.
The same can be said about vegans with credentials. I'm mainly carnivore, but I believe that the biggest improvement is made when you ditch the ultra processed food from the diet.
If humans are true carnivores and it's all what we are meant to eat, why can't we eat them without unnatural man made weapons? If all man made weapons dissappeared, there would be no more meat eating. Do lions and wolves and other carnivorous animals need weapons to eat their prey?
Or how evolution has given us adaptations to our saliva through amylase 2x in our evolution but we STILL haven't adapted in the slightest to under cooked meat yet?
@KmusikOne But you can't eat the meat without you or someone else using weapons. You can't just use your teeth and claws like lions and wolves can. They don't need knives, spears, guns, or bows and arrows to kill the animals and cut them up like humans do. If we were true carnivores, we could eat like lions and wolves, but no sane person could do that.
Eating raw meat has a lot of dangers, just like eating some raw plants. The Arctic people had an advantage with raw meat since they could freeze it. But without fire and cooking, humans would still be in the trees.
There are people who sustain themselves on raw plants alone. So yeah, no comparison between raw plants and raw meat. I cant think of a single person sustaining themselves on raw meat and raw eggs.@@carinaekstrom1
I mean, if you insist. haha. No but seriously I would rather my meat not suffer needlessly before I eat it. That's why hunters don't do what you suggest. Kinda weird for a vegan to suggest such a thing though.
In 1985 I visited a feed lot and never ate flesh again.. Now a complete vegan for many years and recently attended my 40 years reunion. It was painfully obvious who was healthy vs. who was not... I was the one who heard everything about my health, strength, and nutrients.. Rare do I find anyone in my age group who can keep up most are struggling to get out of bed every day.
I had a hard time listening to this whole video because it was EXTREMELY difficult to listen to the JERK spew out nonsense that will ultimately cause harm to people, but I had to listen to him to wait for Mic to start speaking and spreading the RIGHT information that will ultimately put us back on track.
If it were just harm to people, but carnivore diet is killing all the current life on earth and causing mass extinction. It will take millions of years to recuperate from their "taste preference". Not saying that harming people is ok, of course, i mean stopping animal ag. will greatly help marginalized people working in slaughterhouses and on fishing ships as slaves. But i am getting past worrying about people that become sick because they can't stop eating bacon and eggs.
I'm so thrilled to see that "you" saw my comment. It made my day to see that you see how much it means to many of us all that you go through to make us our best selves, not just to stay alive, but to have the best "quality of life" possible. @@MictheVegan
To be fair, most of the papers he quotes focus on a small set of patients. We need studies on larger sets. Maybe NIH's All of Us research program would help.
This doctor should lose his medical license. It’s one thing to have an opinion, but to go on the record as a medical professional, recommending a diet which has been proven to kill people, and advising against an essential food group which has been proven to reverse disease is just unacceptable. It’s horrifying how many people are heeding his advice and forgoing vegetables. The minute I hear anyone say vegetables are unhealthy - or even non-essential - I know immediately to stop listening to anything they have to say on nutrition and health.
@@bcro83 meat and dairy products are proven to cause heart disease ...the highest cause of death in the US and other parts of the world...its not a theory its a fact just because a fat and unhealthy doctor makes money from telling you want you want to hear doesn't alter the facts any elimination diet takes stress of the digestive system temporarily and gives health benefits temporarily that does not make it an optimum or even healthy diet
@@bcro83It didn’t help you reverse your pre-diabetes mate. You are just clogging up your insulin receptors with fat now. Anytime you reintroduce carbs you will get a spike. Stop clogging your arteries. It will take a few years of eating animal products only to kill you with strokes and heart disease. Although wouldn’t you prefer to live disease free for the long term? Please start doing research in the medical journals and become scientifically literate.
I come from a medical family and know Doctors are not trained in nutrition so unless they are like vegan doctors they know as much about nutrition as I do about building a space station 😂
It is quite embarrassing that Rob Cywes is a PhD yet has no clue how to analyze, evaluate, and conduct research. He is the poster child for how gross bias can impact one's ability to take an honest introspective look at their beliefs. How he can miss the plethora of evidence those goes 'with the grain' is negligent at best, incompetent at worst.
The Hadza and other 'paleo' or 'primal' tribes are eating around 65 per cent carbs, which is quite a bit higher than the average Western diet. As you point out, there isn't really a logical reason to go back in time to work out what we should eat now. The overwhelming weight of evidence supports a plant-rich diet, for anyone who wants to have a long healthy life. That guy gives South Africans a bad name. And he also unfortunately preaches a diet that will cut their lives short. Shame.
"overwhelming weight of evidence"? Do you mean association and correlation studies? If you know any causation study that support plant-rich diet healthy send it over please... Correlation has not any value... otherwise eating ice creams would be the cause of sun burns.
@@DanielFernandez-h3l No, that's not what overwhelming evidence means. It means the evidence is overwhelming despite being associations and correlations. Those are so many that they are overwhelming when taken together. Also, as far as causation, we know that high LDL/ApoB is causally linked to atherosclerosis.
I would like to introduce the good doctor to the Mountain Gorilla silver back. The great apes are our closest genetic relatives. Ninety percent of their diet is plants with some insects. They even have massive carnivore teeth. The good doctor is wacko.
He claims that we lost the ability to digest plants like gorillas do as we evolved. As if high cellulose grass was the only plant food on the planet. Ughhh
Gorilla intestines are very different from humans. They have a long cecum and we don't. Stomach ph, size of small intestines. We have intestines very similar to dogs.
@@MictheVegan The gorilla has a cecum that is several feet long. We don't. They get 25% of their protein from eating leaves. Go ahead and eat a large bowl of leaves. You will be throwing up in a short time. Gorilla has very different digestive system from ours.
I love how people claim I am off carbs (not understanding carbs), no processed foods (meat is highly processed), and now a cholesterol level of 300 is ok for carnivores health 😂😂😂... I rode a flying pink and yellow spotted star through the galaxyies at light year speed too
ummmm.... well let's see.... we now have 30 billion terestrial vertabrae for human consumption. That is approximately 30 times the biomass of wild animals! Species Extinction? DUH Animals are forced into existance, then blown up with chemicals (horomones and antibiotics) at 10-25 times their normal growth rates, to slaughter for profits, put into a package with a label!???? Nothing natural about that is there? DUH!! It is common sense that animal products are highly processed when any rational thought is applied. Your delisional fool but like most ignorant people you think cooking it changes things? @@gabrielbarrantes6946
More antibiotics for the animals and the hell with human needs, the safety and zoonotic disease risks?? Why? Because the greedy few and complete ignorance of many who think they need too consume more animals? I do not blame you for being conditioned to think this way but seriously consider removing thy head from thy anus consider what you are supporting? Exploitation and abuse! A Holocaust? Get educated about protein Biosynthesis in the human body. You have been lied to so that powerful financial interests can make you believe that consuming dead things is normal??? You are what you eat buddy! This is not new information. Understand your intramyocellur structure and function before you spew garbage out of the side of your mouth. Your confused and not reading between the lines. Look past the greed of your fork and look at the problems with animal agriculture to our survival as a species! @@gabrielbarrantes6946
The phrase "never existed before" cancels itself out. Once something exists..... oh boy. Never mind. Before what? Is there some line that makes a plant "bonafide"?
Animals don't have a voice to defend themselves. Someone have to do it even if that is annoying. Broccoli don't even have a nerve system to feel. But the animals can feel the same pain of a human.
this guy is basically saying that plants are bad because they begin with the letter p, just like the word poison and tomatoes are bad because they are red and red means danger "science"
Also 17:45, someone correct me if I'm wrong, he's stating that since our brains are made of cholesterol it had to come from animals. Isn't cholesterol which is necessary for human brain MADE BY THE BRAIN ITSELF and never crosses the blood brain barrier so cannot be transported and brain cannot rely on cholesterol from food ???
Yes, before potatoes the Irish ate swedes which in America is called rutabaga. I like rutabagas they are semi starchy and can replace potatoes in recipes. They aren't as tasty though.
That often seems the underlying spirit/message of veganism, which many vegans would wish on all. As a Christian, I've a different perspective, which allows me to thrive, as a WF omni., with an entirely clear conscience.
Your "clear conscience" stems from some words in the bible which seems to endorse meat eating, Not from reality of animal farming and slaughter which was not existent 2000 years ago. This is about basic moral stance against bullying, oppression and exploitation of the vulnerable and defenceless, not a perspective.@@Unmasking_Viandalisme
@@lauratanln That ever increasing greed & corruption has led to the horrors of factory farming haven't changed human physiology. Near herbivore didn't work for me (nor many others). There's nothing within the HB which supports veganism, so I presume that you consider the texts to be a fiction. If you see only a (chaotic) temporal/physical dimension & I add to that a (restorative) spiritual/eternal dimension, the result is different perspectives.
Veganism is a basic moral prerogative, a moral stance against causing suffering and killing. What kind of god will endorse cruelty? If any god is indifferent to suffering despite knowing the truth, then vegans are more moral than the said god.@@Unmasking_Viandalisme
he has no ideia what he is talking about. either that or has an agenda. once again great work Mic. you are the best, even though it feels like spraying water on stone made of ignorants, i appreciate your work, because it will always make a difference, no matter how small
Just look at his Simpson yellow sweaty skin , this guy is not even 50 years old and he is already dying on his chair 😂 Doesn't have any strength.. Anyway , I don't want to be harsh but the vegoon diet vs the carnivore diet debate will be soon resolved .. natural selection will do is thing 😂 Natural selection doesn't take consideration any vegoon arguments 😂😂
Most of the info we have about paleolithic humans is about hunting, scraping, skinning, and chopping wild animals for food. The skins were used for protection from the cold and the bones were used to make tools. They intentionally did not live in close proximity to other humans so that there would be sufficient numbers of wild animals to hunt for survival and general nutrition.
What’s really wild, a guy at the gym grew upset, had a red face about protein, claimed protein comes from cows, pigs, chickens out if no where. He said protein is not in plants. I decided to shut up, my claim is 190 pounds gone. Was 356, now 167(189 lost) maybe he’s right😜😜😜😜🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Glad you lost so much. I am now at goal on the Dr. McDougall diet. People who eat meat gets defensive out of guilt. I have not told any of them that, but I might. Most people have pets, so some animals are in a protected category.
Mic, I love watching you take on "authorities" with Beliefs not based on rigorously analysed evidence.I went down that low-carb-keto path with all those high fat stevia sweetened cheesecakes, and became very insulin resistant.
These Banting bobos got me down, but veganism is on the rise in South Africa, so Cywes might be runnin' scared and it's panic informing this video of his. I'm actually glad that all these carni doctors are outing themselves as people really bad at critical thinking--and botany and paleoanthropology--as a warning to smart people. Thanks for posting!
Genesis 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb...and the tree yielding fruit...and God saw that it was good. Then Dr. Cywes came along and said it was bad.
@@betzib8021 They also ate a lot of oats and barley. The same ditto for Scotland. Okay, I'm thinking now about a single malt whiskey. Good thing we could consider it plant based.
So incredibly sad to see how vehemently another human can despise super healthy people simply because we value life, all forms of life including our own. Never ceases to amaze me how selfishness can lead to such moronic evil. Sad statement about much of humanity. Thanks for fighting the good fight!
Here in France, in certain grocery stores, you can buy what they call "ancient vegetables". There is one veg that I remember my mother mentioning and I actually saw it among those "ancient vegetables" (btw they're not ancient, just simply 'forgotten' for falling out of fashion) and that is the rutabaga (google translate gave the same name as in french, so not sure it's right). My mother hated rutabaga because it was the only vegetable available during German occupation in North East France (WWII). Some of the 'ancient' veg are chard, parsnip, black radish, black salsify, tuberous chervil, Jerusalem artichoke, rutabaga, cardoon and purslane. Again, google translate for the names in english. Anyway, it'd be interesting to see which of these veg are considered run of the mill, normal veg in the US. I think chard and parsnip are quite common, but don't remember seeing any of the others. My father once asked a supermarket employee (in the US) in the veg aisles if they had any leeks.... the employee answered that any leaks would be taken care of by maintenance. They had no idea that a leek is a vegetable, but perhaps that person was a carnivore...... Dr Cywes's level of ignorance is mind-blowing. What is he a doctor of? How many times did he repeat that the veg didn't used to exist? Is that really a valid reason for not eating veg? I mean, seriously! are we humans the same as our ancestors of several thousands of years ago? I don't know.... I don't think I would do well if when I was in my 20's I had been dropped in rural anywhere from the 18th century. I don't think I would have been able to keep up with the workload and the living conditions - I was quite sporty and fit, but it is not the same as living off an insecure diet and working all the hours of the day. Using what people used to eat as guideline for what we should now eat would mean that people like me (with parents from different cultures) would have a very tricky time figuring out what I should eat (like most of the western world population at this point). It seems to me that comparing what people allegedly used to eat to what we eat now is ridiculous. We now have a wide array of foods available (those of us who have the good fortune of living near grocery stores and/or having a veg garden) and so we have the luxury of choosing what we want to eat. This is a relatively recent development and in some countries and regions in the world it still is not the case. People like this doctor don't seem to understand that. He seems to have this notion or conviction that sells products and so he has to 'back it up' with nonsense. Wait, is that the definition of a spin doctor??? is that the kind of doctor he is? I'll have to look that up....
My wife recently went to South Africa as part of her uni degree and South Africa in general is extremely animal products based and quite difficult to be vegan going out. Basically the way they see it is if you haven’t shot it you can’t eat it. She really struggled
I think people love their meat here, but from what I've heard, is that some countries in South America are worse. It's not really difficult to be vegan here, except from social pressure I guess. Also not always the best choices in a lot of restaurants.
@@davycrockett8886 Ditto in Australia. Vegan restaurants are few and far between and vege offerings in other restaurants are largely just tokenism, boring and unsatisfying. At least that's the case where I live. It may be different in Melbourne.
In Cape Town it's actually quite easy to eat vegan when going out. Most restaurants and cafes have something vegan or that can easily be veganized. Vegan options have grown rapidly in the past few years... there is even a vegan donut chain 😊
Who cares about 10,000 years ago as they lived to be ?? 30 on average. In Europe, the life expectancy was about 35 and began to increase in the 1860's. New plants and better distribution could help explain some of the increase. Along with antibiotics and surical techniques, our life expectancy now averages around 80 years.
As soon as you get the ‘doctor’ jumping up and down like that without looking at anything besides the ranting of their little group, you know they are a nutter. And unfortunately here in South Africa we breed some seriously nutty ‘shouty men’.
I was fortunate enough to spend time on a vacation at one of the oldest continuously inhabited Indigenous communities in North America in New Mexico. The foods are very interesting and a living legacy of the ancestors. I am no expert, but we had a couple different staple dishes made from acorn flour that were heavy and filling and no doubt uber nutritious. It's not a mystery what was eaten; these legacies have been handed down through the generations.
Having lived in South Africa for 8 years, a lot of people in SA are serious about their meat. I had more than one person there tell me that he considered chicken as vegetables.
I don’t know doc, but I’d rather not eat foods that actually make me sick. I’m one of the plant-based people who happens to get sick after eating animal products, either due to lactose intolerance or whatever I’m dealing with when it comes to meat. Plus living in a decidedly farming-dependent state, I’d rather not contribute to the death of so many animals.
Maybe in South Africa medical schools they don’t have the code “Do No Harm” Of course in the US we have this medical code, but it’s not honored here either.
That's a good point about how many calories you need to build a brain vs. to fuel it. I heard a neurologist also say sat fat can't cross the BBB anyway and that the brain can make it's own cholesterol.
The notion that humans are carnivores and are supposed to eat meat biologically is laughable. Show me one human “carnivore” that can smell or hear a mouse in their house, and instantly starts stalking it and drooling, like my cats do. We have no adaptations like real carnivores to hunt and kill things with our built in tools/faces, have no sharpened senses like they have, and we certainly can’t kill anything and eat it whole and raw on the spot like real carnivores. Humans ate meat opportunistically in times of need, not cause we have some biologic imperative to eat it.
I’ve been listening to some herbalism podcasts recently with mostly “nose-to-tail” eating hosts. I even started to question my 13 years of plant-based eating. Now after another refreshing video by you Mic, I realize that none of these people ever cite SCIENCE when they speak. I’ll stick with the science, thank you.
Humans spent most of our evolutionary history hunting with rocks, clubs, and spears. Early humans weren't running around with bow and arrows, and they certainly weren't sitting around in deer stands with rifles loaded with buck shot. So I'm going to need this doctor and his homeboys to grab some spears and see how many gazelles they can bring down, then remember they're feeding a group of 50 with mostly just that and no refrigeration. Then they come back and tell me how much meat we evolved to eat.
North America Indians. We hunted in groups and later followed herds. Meat and fish were plentiful even with seasonal variations. Pemmican was essential in winter.
If I did have to fly on a jet, no one would mind sitting next to me, I am a normal weight, thank you Dr. John McDougall! I have sat in the past with a person needing an extender belt. Quite uncomfortable!
I think this doctor needs to lose his license, no one who spouts lies to further a narrative that doesnt make any sense or scientifically based shouldnt be a doctor
One point that should be made is.... We have lost 98% of our plants through hybridization and mono-culture farming. It is suggested that plants eaten by our ancestors were much more nutrient dense. You can thank modern farming practices for what we have now. So he's right that a lot of our plants were introduced through hybridization, but they didn't just fall out of the sky from a space ship, they are a genetic off-spring of what our ancestors ate. I've been vegetarian for 20+ years and plant-based for the last 7. I do have friends that are carnivores and I certainly don't criticize them. I just know for me, a plant-based diet has worked phenomenally.
He is embarrassing to listen to! Wow. My mom is anti plants, full carnivore. It’s sad to see her health majorly decline. She falls for people like this.
Sorry to hear that. You can't help them and it's frustrating to see a loved one deteriorating because they've been misled, but they have to learn for themselves. It's really sad when they stubbornly refuse to see reality and would rather live in a world of make-believe where bacon and lard are somehow good for you. My dad refused to stop eating meat/dairy/eggs and had heart attack after heart attack. His cholesterol was way too high, but he wouldn't stop eating an unhealthy diet. He grew up eating bacon and eggs for breakfast and believed people required a heavy meat diet for good health. He just wouldn't listen. The fifth heart attack killed him. 😢 I miss him each and every day. I have no doubt that he would still be here if he had changed his diet. His father, my grandfather, also died of heart disease and had several heart attacks before also succumbing to an early death from a meat-centered diet. There are many people who just can't accept that the meat and dairy diet will likely take years off their lives. They've been lied to by the meat industry, the egg lobby and the dairy conglomerates. They push the fake low keto garbage on unwitting Americans and it is shortening lives.
i just cant stay near full carnivore, it is like they can not discuss anything important, my mom have to die alone now. so sad that she support animal abuse to get worse health and her kids avoid her....
Ever notice that there are no elderly carnivore or paleo advocates? But there are plenty of elderly vegan and plant based advocates. Wonder what happens to all those low carbers when they get old?
That is not quite true. Look at the comments on the carnivore podcasts and you will see many 70, 80 and 90 year Olds, usually telling about their good health and absence of medications
@@charlotteprout-jones7257 Don't base your life on a few exceptions. You are gambling with your health. A man in Mexico has been smoking sence he was 16 and he is 101! Does that mean that you should start smoking? You may want to take a few cues from people who live in five areas around the world designated as “Blue Zones.” These are places that have been shown to produce the highest number of centenarians (people who live to be 100 or older). Blue Zone centenarians follow a predominantly plant-based diet, eating 95-100% plant-based. They primarily eat a variety of in-season fresh vegetables and fruits, whole grains and beans.
we don't need to eat plants for the brain to produce carbs, many people can eat a small amount of plants with their meat still and get the benefit of their keto diet, but I am not one of them, beef salt water butter is best for me, sometimes I add pork and chicken, rarely fish or seafood, and I have tried to stop drinking coffee to no avail, also I find cheese extremely addictive and will fast it from time to time. my body reacts negatively to plants and carbs no matter how much, but at least not as bad as in the beginning of this journey. carnivore changed my life. years ago I followed a strict vegan diet for 18 mo and my fibro got worse. today I am carnivore (except for coffee cheese and occasional glass of wine) 21 mo and my health keeps getting better each month. if I would just quit the coffee and cheese......
Eat what works for you. For 25 days I stopped all net carbs except 1-2 teaspoons of honey and ate 90% meat and my blood pressure dropped from 120/80 to 95/68 on average. I personally do not need vegetables every day although they (broccoli, asparagus, and brussels sprouts) are really good with some butter and spices. Beef digests very easily and is a complete food leaving vegetables as a side dish for the most part. In reality the most important thing to do besides minimizing processed foods and Frankenfoods is to eat less and eat less often and exercise and get more sleep than you think is reasonable (like 9-10 hours).
Please, the amount of refined carbohydrates, including sugar, that is healthy to consume is completely dependent on how physically active you are. It is bonkers stupid to claim that a cyclist who sucks in 100-150 grams of sugar every hour while riding their bike 20 mph for five hours is somehow harming their health.
The poisonous plants people kinda make me chuckle, cause beans are poisonous, unless we soak or cook them, but all these people are cooking their meat right? I guess a few of them may be trying to get their VC with raw meat. But most of them are eating cheap meat that's cooked. And that must mean they are supplementing at least the VC and some other essentials from the poisonous plant food group.
Well this particular doctor is never gonna vacation in Bali. Coz out here we got poisonous cassava if eaten raw😂😂😂😂😂. Out here in Indonesia we eat all sorts of poisonous seeds & roots along w/ weeds. They’re super tasty & healthy, not to mention cheap
I was Paleo for 10 years but high BP made me go WFPB and I stopped pills after 18 months. Now 110/70.
110/70, that's living life to 157%!!!
(I know it's a blood pressure number, don't come at me lol)
That’s wonderful! It just proves, yet again, that a WFPB diet is healthiest for humans.
A true paleo diet would be tons of plants. 100g of fibre a day but the people promoting paleo seem to forget that. You aren't getting 100g of fibre from what today's paleo people eat. Only from the actual Paleolithic Era.
Don't listen to Big Broccoli. High BP and pills are how you live forever. It's super natural.
Fossilised Paleo poo was mostly plant based. 96%
People will say anything to defend their bad habits. It's really stunning.
As a botanist/plant ecologist I get to work with indigenous people somewhat regularly. They are very interested in accessing a wide variety of culturally important food plants.
"those plants never existed before" *lol* Who's telling him about the animals humans eat today & how they didn't exist like this like just 150 years ago..
Edit: Oh, you already did 😅
I was gonna comment exactly the same 🤣
Actually, most plants didn't exist today. They were too toxic or provided too little energy for humans. Plant animals eat almost all day long. Carnivores eat very little compared to Plant eating animals.
@aeoneditingservice thanks for showing me you know nothing. Herbivore dinosaurs (aka before humans, came along. Also, the planet was much more lush.) Also had to eat all day long. Also, there has always been pollution, valcanos, meteors, radiation from the sun, etc. How do you not know any of this? Did you not go to school or just be not interested and look this up.
Also, it's extremely wasteful for a plant to make large fruit. Its primary goal is to reproduce. Not put large amounts of energy into something that's going to be eaten. Something like a banana would have never existed in nature. The original banana witch had tuns of seads in them, which were genetically modified by humans. All in the name of human consumption.
While it’s correct that the animals they eat today didn’t exist either, the whole argument of basing what we eat today on theories about the past is completely irrelevant. We have actual human health outcome data showing us today which dietary patterns are preferable. End of story.
If he thinks Ken Berry is brilliant then he must know that Ken had 2 disciplinary actions against him since he can't follow rules or his diet destroys his thinking and the Ken Berry book on page 103 he says nuts and seeds are very healthy, the nutrients and fiber are great. Page 187 says I eat many servings of colorful veggies every day. Page 192 says there are many days each week I eat no fiber at all. Page 205 says I often go days without eating anything but fatty meat cooked in either lard or butter. This is how you think when you are confused and weigh 230 pounds.
Hilarious. That is pretty messed up.
@@julieowens7095 Not only that but the Ken Berry book has no references in it as I don't think he ever read any studies he just says whatever he wants.
Yes. Reusing single use needles. He shouldn't be addressed as "doctor".
He cant follow rules of medicine because he helps people cure and heal themselves.
@@lr1732 He never cured or helped any human long term else he would have some awards, honors, inventions, patents or Nobel Prize and he has zero in all 5.
I remember about a year after I went vegan (2017) people were telling me that surely I was going to be deficient in certain things even if symptoms hadn't shown up yet. I wasn't really worried about it but I found myself at the doctors surgery for a routine checkup one day and I told the doctor I had gone vegan about a year ago and I wanted to get a full bloods run down to see if I was deficient in anything. He told me that it was a good idea and although he didn't say the words his tone implied "I'll bet your deficient in loads of things and I'll be recommending meat to you the next time we see each other!" When I came back he hadn't looked at the results yet and when he opened them he looked surprised and he said "You're numbers are all good" and a little further down the page he said "Wow, I mean very good!" The look on his face said that he was experiencing high levels of cognitive dissonance. The moral of the story being that doctors do not know everything and I've found especially regarding nutrition their knowledge can be very lacking. "Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food."
Same experience. I started eating whole plant based in September 22. Early December I went to my doctor to have a prescription for blood tests, and she said "Yes, we certainly need to monitor you closely to see what supplements you might be needing because of that diet you've decided to choose". The tone in her voice was clear. My blood test was the best I've had in decades. She was speechless and said: "Well, keep doing whatever you're doing"
I love that!
Most Americans, even doctors, are still not very knowledgeable about vegan diets. You're more likely to find more awareness outside the US in English-speaking countries.
My GP is very against it no matter how good my labs are. My other doctors are all for it and very aware you can be healthy on a balanced plant based diet.
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I've never seen someone who hates broccoli so much that they get angry at other people eating it.
Animals don't have a voice to defend themselves. Someone have to do it even if that is annoying. Broccoli don't even have a nerve system to feel. But the animals can feel the same pain of a human.
ikr these paleo people are like the kids who threw tantrums over having to eat their vegetables but then never grew up into adulthood
@@NeoAutodroid "Nnno! I don't wanna!"
The term is ‘meatflake’. An overly sensitive carnivore who is insecure and highly threatened by vegans and vegan food.
Angry? Who gets angry?
I think people who eat meat are just looking for excuses to keep doing it. As Dr. McDougall said,”people love to hear good news about their bad habits.”
I think people who eat plants are just looking for excuses to keep doing it. As Dr. McDougall said, "people love to hear good news about their bad habits" 🤣
@@itdepnz whole food plants aren't addictive like animal foods. So you are wrong.
I'm so glad drinking and smoking is good for me.
@@itdepnz Eating a plant based diet is the polar opposite of a bad habit.
@@TrojansFirst meat aren''t addictive like plant foods. So you are wrong too.
TH-cam never existed 500 years ago so this guy should not use it
Doctors are a very recent invention, he should become a flint-knapper.
Ha! True.
That's Mic's logic, or lachkthereof.
Word
So so very dumb! False equivalencey...you won't die from using TH-cam.
The average life expectancy of the Irish in 1840 B.P. (Before Potato) was 38. In 2023 A.S.T. (Anno Solanum Tuberosum) is 82. With no studies to back me up I’m asserting that it’s all thanks to the Potato.
They didn’t have antibiotics in 1840. The average lifespan was much lower EVERYWHERE! A Civil War Union Officer survived all of the main battles but died of an infection after he skinned his knee when jumping out of the boat after his men rowed him across the Potomac. Typical of how it was back then.
@@jmseipp Much like the future because we enjoy giving it to livestock more!
This is such a great comment. xD
Thanks for the laugh.
Most vegan idears are opinion and lack science. If fact there is literally zero proper peer reveiwed double blinded studies to support veganism. There is also zero to support carnivour as only the health and food industry are in a financial position to fund them. And why would they when they know the results will kill their multi trillion sales? This is how faulsehoods become doga. Prior to the potatoe coming into Ireland people starved. All the good animal based food was stripped from the country to feed the troops of the British empire. When the potatoe blight came the Irish starved again. The population went down from 8 million and to this day has not recovered. The historical deviations in Irelands historical longevity increase, is not about the type of food avalible but about food (of any sort) availibility.
It is well known that with the introduction of the potato the population throughout all of Europe exploded due to the sudden availability of calories.
What did we eat in Europe before potatoes? We ate other roots and grains. He can't seriously believe we were eating only meat?
And people were eating potatoes elsewhere before.
I was looking a the screen and going, "Turnips. They ate turnips, dummy doctor."
Garlic was grown in abundance and boiled like potatoes and was a creamy starch that basically was the original
And hazel nuts.
@@uog293Well, not in my parts of Europe, but it sounds yummy.
My family is vegetarian, so I've never eaten meat my whole life. I'm not dead or sick, in fact I'm doing pretty good on my 40's, healthy and young. My meat eaters friends of my age are struggling with all kinds of deseases and premature aging. Meat eaters doctors often dies of gastro intestinal cancer. But they said that the causes of cancer are unknown. They prefers to die in ignorance before they accept the dangers of their loved meat.
All the substances inside hells that imprison farmed animals and kept them very bored, in pain from overgrowth or osteoporosis, stressed, cannot be good for the body..
Vegetarians have done great for 1000s of years, especilly when their dishes swim in Ghee, cheese and milk, like in India.
Its when one go 100% plant based, the body, sooner or later start to decay.
Just like Mic here, that has to use makeup, lightning and filter the crap out of his videos, not to look like a meth addict with hepatitis. The pale yellownes in his skin is a clear indicator that his health suffers
Mrat eaters live longer than vegetarians. If you look at india where there is the most vegetarians, the population is super unhealthy.
@@hobogardenerbenI hear you . I love Parmesan cheese and pizza but when i say pizza I mean the real kind with a made from scratch thin crust olive oil fresh tomato base and some cheese , not the junk from dominos etc . I can’t give that up either otherwise don’t eat any animal crap . Ahhhhh pizza
Ahhhh pasta with Parmesan 🤷♀️
lets see how far you get
My Mom fell for getting her diet info from guys like this and went carnivore last year. It didn’t end well. And she told me that veganism was a fad.
Gosh. What happened to your mom?
Is your Mum okay 😮?
@@s3731711 she got a bowel impaction, and because she was so elderly she elected not to have the surgery. Instead she went into hospice and died within a few days.
Veganism is not a diet anyway. It's a moral stance not to abuse or slaughter animals who feel like us.
@@lauratanln too bad agriculture also kills tons of animals... Gotta keep those pigs out of the corn fields buddy... And those bugs too, spray tons of chemicals to keep them away... Destroy the natural habitat of many animals to plant your corn...
Why are they always so angry at plants? Why so emotional? Is it because of all of the hormones in meat or dairy? ;)
But maybe I agree. It is not a human diet. It is a super-human diet! :)
Edit: Don't he dare to touch potatoes and beans! 🤬
I'm sure their diet is affecting their mood.
@@mayhu3282Yeah lol
I actually think they get angry over the guilt for eating animals.
@@courag1 Yeah. The efforts that some people will go to suggests to me that on some level they appreciate the argument but just don't want to change their ways. I think a lot of climate change denialism probably stems from this too.
😂😂😂😂 I always wonder the same. Why are they so angry???
It’s interesting how silly carnivore drs are. Also I wanted to mention plants have been used for natural medicine not just food.
Silly ? 😂
Those doctors are not sophists and are not looking like Simpsons character 😂
For thousands of years in various cultures around the world
People have used mercury to cure illnesses in the past. How is plants being used for medicine, even an argument.
hm then how did my multiple sclerosis get cured?
Ur not a herbivore, ur an omnivore
The thing is , these guys make videos for money. A true doctor does not want to harm their patients so they won't wrecklessly claim crazy fad diets like stop eating vegetables and sometimes fruits.
Fiber is extremely important for health and if you don't have any fiber in your diet or very little, it can lead to diseases later on in life and these diseases can be deadly.
Sometimes, I ask myself. How much is the meat industry paying these guys???
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And how can I digest fiber? Because fiber is not digestible for human. We have plants in our diet for about 10.000 years. Them tell me. How could our ancestors have lived through millions of years without plants? Because we are carnivores, which means we meant to be eating meat, and other animal products, and not plants. Plants were poisonous at that time, and the humans were the one, who created the modern versions of the plants, like apple, or cucumber. The food pyramid is a lie. Scientist were paid off by sugar companies so they can lie about carbs and sugar, so they can exist, and make us ill. Tell me, how could chronic diseases triple, and people are sicker before we switched to a carbs diet? It's really interesting.
Alot of plants are edible, even if some cultures don't think of them as food. Some cultures even use many of them as medicine.
Irish peasants before Columbus ate parsnips, which are similar in culinary properties to potatoes. When I lived in the UK, we regularly ate them as food. They look like a beige carrot and taste similar to a potato or a carrot.
I love parsnips! But it does seem true that most people aren't aware of them.
@@cookinglivewithlala I love them too, but i have to admit i only know them now because we're getting fresh produce packet from local organic farmer. I've never seen them when i was still eating from mostly grocery store in my pre-vegan days.
@@cookinglivewithlala Parsnips and cabbage were the staple of alot of medieval people living in the British isles.
Wait. Americans don’t eat parsnips? 😳
One of the biggest problems with social media is that anyone who has "credentials" can post videos filled with nonsense and claim legitimacy. There is no way an average viewer can tell what is what.
One way to tell is if they say vegetables are poisonous, turn the video off
I’m quite average. Just takes reading a couple of substantiated peer reviewed studies.
Including mic the vegoon 😂
@@emeraldcitycreative6892 Adult babies that never listened to their mother telling them to eat their veggies and refuse to listen to this day.
The same can be said about vegans with credentials.
I'm mainly carnivore, but I believe that the biggest improvement is made when you ditch the ultra processed food from the diet.
Keep preaching the truth, bro. Somebody needs to be persistent against these misinformation maniacs.
This video is information...
If humans are true carnivores and it's all what we are meant to eat, why can't we eat them without unnatural man made weapons? If all man made weapons dissappeared, there would be no more meat eating. Do lions and wolves and other carnivorous animals need weapons to eat their prey?
Or how evolution has given us adaptations to our saliva through amylase 2x in our evolution but we STILL haven't adapted in the slightest to under cooked meat yet?
Exactly!
@11235Aodh Humans can eat fresh raw meat. Can't eat raw kidney beans though.
Humans are scavengers. We would eat from the carcasses other animals killed.
@KmusikOne But you can't eat the meat without you or someone else using weapons. You can't just use your teeth and claws like lions and wolves can. They don't need knives, spears, guns, or bows and arrows to kill the animals and cut them up like humans do. If we were true carnivores, we could eat like lions and wolves, but no sane person could do that.
You know what our ancestors didn’t have? Doctors. But look who now makes a life by keeping people artificially alive.
especially the heart surgeons and man it is a lot of $$$$$ for removing that cholesterol.
uhhh, some of the largest insurance companies Recommend a Plant Based Diet for Disease Maintenance and Prevention & overall health.
Keiser Permanente, for one. Not sure about the spelling, btw.
I will NOT call meat heads ( I am veghead) “ carnivore” until they eat raw living meat- no heat no boiling grilling and the creature must be alive!
Eating raw meat has a lot of dangers, just like eating some raw plants. The Arctic people had an advantage with raw meat since they could freeze it. But without fire and cooking, humans would still be in the trees.
Cheesebreathers for vegetarians, bloodmouths for non-veggies.
There are people who sustain themselves on raw plants alone. So yeah, no comparison between raw plants and raw meat. I cant think of a single person sustaining themselves on raw meat and raw eggs.@@carinaekstrom1
Do you eat raw rice and wheat?
I mean, if you insist. haha. No but seriously I would rather my meat not suffer needlessly before I eat it. That's why hunters don't do what you suggest. Kinda weird for a vegan to suggest such a thing though.
In 1985 I visited a feed lot and never ate flesh again.. Now a complete vegan for many years and recently attended my 40 years reunion. It was painfully obvious who was healthy vs. who was not... I was the one who heard everything about my health, strength, and nutrients.. Rare do I find anyone in my age group who can keep up most are struggling to get out of bed every day.
I had a hard time listening to this whole video because it was EXTREMELY difficult to listen to the JERK spew out nonsense that will ultimately cause harm to people, but I had to listen to him to wait for Mic to start speaking and spreading the RIGHT information that will ultimately put us back on track.
Yeah, I felt the same way.
Thanks for that. It's always nice to know there are like minded people out there. @@maurm7996
If it were just harm to people, but carnivore diet is killing all the current life on earth and causing mass extinction. It will take millions of years to recuperate from their "taste preference". Not saying that harming people is ok, of course, i mean stopping animal ag. will greatly help marginalized people working in slaughterhouses and on fishing ships as slaves. But i am getting past worrying about people that become sick because they can't stop eating bacon and eggs.
You don't even want to know how much silence I had to edit out from his clips to stay sane.
I'm so thrilled to see that "you" saw my comment. It made my day to see that you see how much it means to many of us all that you go through to make us our best selves, not just to stay alive, but to have the best "quality of life" possible. @@MictheVegan
Man if every video on youtube had as many sources as yours we'd be in a lot better place.
Not only many sources, but high quality, credible sources!
To be fair, most of the papers he quotes focus on a small set of patients. We need studies on larger sets. Maybe NIH's All of Us research program would help.
His sources are text books from the 1950's, sponsored by Big Agriculture.
This doctor should lose his medical license. It’s one thing to have an opinion, but to go on the record as a medical professional, recommending a diet which has been proven to kill people, and advising against an essential food group which has been proven to reverse disease is just unacceptable. It’s horrifying how many people are heeding his advice and forgoing vegetables. The minute I hear anyone say vegetables are unhealthy - or even non-essential - I know immediately to stop listening to anything they have to say on nutrition and health.
Name a person who was killed on carnivore then Argue with me. Animal Products helped reversed my pre diabetes.
@@bcro83 meat and dairy products are proven to cause heart disease ...the highest cause of death in the US and other parts of the world...its not a theory its a fact
just because a fat and unhealthy doctor makes money from telling you want you want to hear doesn't alter the facts
any elimination diet takes stress of the digestive system temporarily and gives health benefits temporarily that does not make it an optimum or even healthy diet
Absolutely
@@bcro83It didn’t help you reverse your pre-diabetes mate. You are just clogging up your insulin receptors with fat now. Anytime you reintroduce carbs you will get a spike. Stop clogging your arteries. It will take a few years of eating animal products only to kill you with strokes and heart disease. Although wouldn’t you prefer to live disease free for the long term? Please start doing research in the medical journals and become scientifically literate.
I come from a medical family and know Doctors are not trained in nutrition so unless they are like vegan doctors they know as much about nutrition as I do about building a space station 😂
It is quite embarrassing that Rob Cywes is a PhD yet has no clue how to analyze, evaluate, and conduct research. He is the poster child for how gross bias can impact one's ability to take an honest introspective look at their beliefs. How he can miss the plethora of evidence those goes 'with the grain' is negligent at best, incompetent at worst.
PhD's are often given for being knowlegable about a very narrow field of study.
No wonder then!!@@someguy2135
Is it incompetence or money making strategy?🤔
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I'm sure he knows how. He just doesn't want to in this case.
Ireland ate other vegetables and grains before the famine, then the British stole all our food so we could only eat potatoes
The Hadza and other 'paleo' or 'primal' tribes are eating around 65 per cent carbs, which is quite a bit higher than the average Western diet. As you point out, there isn't really a logical reason to go back in time to work out what we should eat now. The overwhelming weight of evidence supports a plant-rich diet, for anyone who wants to have a long healthy life. That guy gives South Africans a bad name. And he also unfortunately preaches a diet that will cut their lives short. Shame.
"overwhelming weight of evidence"? Do you mean association and correlation studies? If you know any causation study that support plant-rich diet healthy send it over please... Correlation has not any value... otherwise eating ice creams would be the cause of sun burns.
@@DanielFernandez-h3lThe Mediterranean diet has always been known as the best diet. The predimed study is an example
@@DanielFernandez-h3l Perhaps do some Googling. Based on your comment, you need to.
@@DanielFernandez-h3l No, that's not what overwhelming evidence means. It means the evidence is overwhelming despite being associations and correlations. Those are so many that they are overwhelming when taken together.
Also, as far as causation, we know that high LDL/ApoB is causally linked to atherosclerosis.
His brain is affected by all those PAK's being released at the weekendly "braai" they have there.
It is sad, that this Dr knows so little. I come from country where we have long tradition to process plants and mushrooms and make it good to eat.
They even discovered a new vitamin type substance in mushrooms, ergothioneine, how freekin cool is that?
@@11235Aodhand spermidine!
I would like to introduce the good doctor to the Mountain Gorilla silver back. The great apes are our closest genetic relatives. Ninety percent of their diet is plants with some insects. They even have massive carnivore teeth. The good doctor is wacko.
He claims that we lost the ability to digest plants like gorillas do as we evolved. As if high cellulose grass was the only plant food on the planet. Ughhh
Wacko……good description
Gorilla intestines are very different from humans. They have a long cecum and we don't. Stomach ph, size of small intestines. We have intestines very similar to dogs.
@@MictheVegan The gorilla has a cecum that is several feet long. We don't. They get 25% of their protein from eating leaves. Go ahead and eat a large bowl of leaves. You will be throwing up in a short time. Gorilla has very different digestive system from ours.
@@dasbof, wrong.
In 2023 we'll have flying cars!
2023: Yes, you should eat plants. No, bacon grease is not a food group.
"I got your four basic food groups... Beans, bacon, whiskey and lard."
@@reaperkollyns6495 carnivores: beans🤬🤬🤬lEcTiNs
another great Mic the Vegan video to watch as I chow down on my Vegan, whole food, plant based dinner! Thanks, man!
So messed up that "PhD" and "Md" carry so much weight for people even when what they say is completely false...
As opposed to a "Science Writer" who does the same. 🤣
At least we've learned that.
including this charlatan, who is so far out of his depth its unreal
I love how people claim I am off carbs (not understanding carbs), no processed foods (meat is highly processed), and now a cholesterol level of 300 is ok for carnivores health 😂😂😂...
I rode a flying pink and yellow spotted star through the galaxyies at light year speed too
Tell me one study that shows that LDL is more deadly at 300 than 60.
Thanks for showing you dont know what carbs are. Carbs turn into glucose. Aka sugar, sugar causes diabetes. Fat doesn't trun into sugar. it's fat.
Meat processed? Insane, you are delusional buddy...
ummmm.... well let's see.... we now have 30 billion terestrial vertabrae for human consumption. That is approximately 30 times the biomass of wild animals! Species Extinction? DUH
Animals are forced into existance, then blown up with chemicals (horomones and antibiotics) at 10-25 times their normal growth rates, to slaughter for profits, put into a package with a label!???? Nothing natural about that is there? DUH!! It is common sense that animal products are highly processed when any rational thought is applied.
Your delisional fool but like most ignorant people you think cooking it changes things? @@gabrielbarrantes6946
More antibiotics for the animals and the hell with human needs, the safety and zoonotic disease risks?? Why? Because the greedy few and complete ignorance of many who think they need too consume more animals? I do not blame you for being conditioned to think this way but seriously consider removing thy head from thy anus consider what you are supporting? Exploitation and abuse! A Holocaust?
Get educated about protein Biosynthesis in the human body. You have been lied to so that powerful financial interests can make you believe that consuming dead things is normal??? You are what you eat buddy! This is not new information.
Understand your intramyocellur structure and function before you spew garbage out of the side of your mouth. Your confused and not reading between the lines. Look past the greed of your fork and look at the problems with animal agriculture to our survival as a species! @@gabrielbarrantes6946
The phrase "never existed before" cancels itself out. Once something exists..... oh boy. Never mind. Before what? Is there some line that makes a plant "bonafide"?
Opposable thumbs evolved because of pistachios.
He needs to google ground nuts, cattails. pecans, and wild rice...
Amaranth and sorghum, as well.
Animals don't have a voice to defend themselves. Someone have to do it even if that is annoying. Broccoli don't even have a nerve system to feel. But the animals can feel the same pain of a human.
Meat eaters like to believe plants have nerves it seems.
this guy is basically saying that plants are bad because they begin with the letter p, just like the word poison
and tomatoes are bad because they are red and red means danger
"science"
And we call that guy a "dr"?!
Also 17:45, someone correct me if I'm wrong, he's stating that since our brains are made of cholesterol it had to come from animals. Isn't cholesterol which is necessary for human brain MADE BY THE BRAIN ITSELF and never crosses the blood brain barrier so cannot be transported and brain cannot rely on cholesterol from food ???
Seems a doctor should know that.
Yes, before potatoes the Irish ate swedes which in America is called rutabaga. I like rutabagas they are semi starchy and can replace potatoes in recipes. They aren't as tasty though.
He looks very healthy, slim and full of light. 🤦🏻♂️
O wow thats a person? i thought it was a turkey!
@@Yayyyyyyyyyy Are you making fun of turkeys after the turkey genocide holiday? Tsk tsk.
na hes looking pasty face like all vegans
How can he be a doctor? That profession didn’t exist before!!!
Knowing what animals go through in the torture and the Sadness and Sorrow they endure I I would rather die than eat another animal
❤Agreed totally.
That often seems the underlying spirit/message of veganism, which many vegans would wish on all.
As a Christian, I've a different perspective, which allows me to thrive, as a WF omni., with an entirely clear conscience.
Your "clear conscience" stems from some words in the bible which seems to endorse meat eating, Not from reality of animal farming and slaughter which was not existent 2000 years ago. This is about basic moral stance against bullying, oppression and exploitation of the vulnerable and defenceless, not a perspective.@@Unmasking_Viandalisme
@@lauratanln That ever increasing greed & corruption has led to the horrors of factory farming haven't changed human physiology. Near herbivore didn't work for me (nor many others).
There's nothing within the HB which supports veganism, so I presume that you consider the texts to be a fiction. If you see only a (chaotic) temporal/physical dimension & I add to that a (restorative) spiritual/eternal dimension, the result is different perspectives.
Veganism is a basic moral prerogative, a moral stance against causing suffering and killing. What kind of god will endorse cruelty? If any god is indifferent to suffering despite knowing the truth, then vegans are more moral than the said god.@@Unmasking_Viandalisme
he has no ideia what he is talking about.
either that or has an agenda.
once again great work Mic. you are the best, even though it feels like spraying water on stone made of ignorants, i appreciate your work, because it will always make a difference, no matter how small
Just look at his Simpson yellow sweaty skin , this guy is not even 50 years old and he is already dying on his chair 😂
Doesn't have any strength..
Anyway , I don't want to be harsh but the vegoon diet vs the carnivore diet debate will be soon resolved .. natural selection will do is thing 😂
Natural selection doesn't take consideration any vegoon arguments 😂😂
Bbbbb bbbut but but .. my vegoon studies tho 😂
Mother earth didn't took your vegoon science and now those vegoon are deleted from earth 😂
Most of the info we have about paleolithic humans is about hunting, scraping, skinning, and chopping wild animals for food. The skins were used for protection from the cold and the bones were used to make tools. They intentionally did not live in close proximity to other humans so that there would be sufficient numbers of wild animals to hunt for survival and general nutrition.
Thank you for watching his original video for us.🙏🏽 Because even just these short clips of him talking was painful to watch and listen to.🙈🙉🤣
What’s really wild, a guy at the gym grew upset, had a red face about protein, claimed protein comes from cows, pigs, chickens out if no where. He said protein is not in plants. I decided to shut up, my claim is 190 pounds gone. Was 356, now 167(189 lost) maybe he’s right😜😜😜😜🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Glad you lost so much. I am now at goal on the Dr. McDougall diet. People who eat meat gets defensive out of guilt. I have not told any of them that, but I might. Most people have pets, so some animals are in a protected category.
should ask him where does think cows get their protein from lol
@earthwombat Yes, that is what I asked all the time when people asked me. Where do you get your proteins 😂
I better have life force with red face than looking like a Simpsons character 😂 please telle me that mic the vegoon look healthy ?😂
@@richardcardinale7152 you think having a 'red face' is healthy? ur circulation is probably fked. check ur blood pressure, bro...
That doctor must be a flat-earther
In his defense...we didnt have telescopes and satelites in the prehistoric era
I am the person who suggest the video to debunk and I am proud of Mic as ever. Thanks Mic
Thank you for making that suggestion! 🌱
@@someguy2135 It's my pleasure 😄
Thank you too.
You do know what the narcissistic personality disorder is right??
Mic, I love watching you take on "authorities" with Beliefs not based on rigorously analysed evidence.I went down that low-carb-keto path with all those high fat stevia sweetened cheesecakes, and became very insulin resistant.
Almost all the animals we eat today didn’t exist back then either. They are human creations.
These Banting bobos got me down, but veganism is on the rise in South Africa, so Cywes might be runnin' scared and it's panic informing this video of his. I'm actually glad that all these carni doctors are outing themselves as people really bad at critical thinking--and botany and paleoanthropology--as a warning to smart people. Thanks for posting!
Cool reject the colonizer diet; it makes you dumb, unhealthy, and comfortable with injustice.
my cousin works at a Vegan restaurant in South Africa, the Vegan movement is global 💚
Lol, he's a U.S. citizen.
@@PrimalChiro LOL, he has a Welsh surname but a South African accent, so I assume he's South African _by culture._ Duh.
Genesis 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb...and the tree yielding fruit...and God saw that it was good.
Then Dr. Cywes came along and said it was bad.
The Irish ate turnips and swedes (rutabaga). Turnips were like their potato way back in the day.
Thanks...I was wondering.
@@betzib8021 They also ate a lot of oats and barley. The same ditto for Scotland. Okay, I'm thinking now about a single malt whiskey. Good thing we could consider it plant based.
@@jaimeayala4231 yeah..lol
So incredibly sad to see how vehemently another human can despise super healthy people simply because we value life, all forms of life including our own. Never ceases to amaze me how selfishness can lead to such moronic evil. Sad statement about much of humanity. Thanks for fighting the good fight!
Here in France, in certain grocery stores, you can buy what they call "ancient vegetables". There is one veg that I remember my mother mentioning and I actually saw it among those "ancient vegetables" (btw they're not ancient, just simply 'forgotten' for falling out of fashion) and that is the rutabaga (google translate gave the same name as in french, so not sure it's right). My mother hated rutabaga because it was the only vegetable available during German occupation in North East France (WWII). Some of the 'ancient' veg are chard, parsnip, black radish, black salsify, tuberous chervil, Jerusalem artichoke, rutabaga, cardoon and purslane. Again, google translate for the names in english. Anyway, it'd be interesting to see which of these veg are considered run of the mill, normal veg in the US. I think chard and parsnip are quite common, but don't remember seeing any of the others. My father once asked a supermarket employee (in the US) in the veg aisles if they had any leeks.... the employee answered that any leaks would be taken care of by maintenance. They had no idea that a leek is a vegetable, but perhaps that person was a carnivore......
Dr Cywes's level of ignorance is mind-blowing. What is he a doctor of? How many times did he repeat that the veg didn't used to exist? Is that really a valid reason for not eating veg? I mean, seriously! are we humans the same as our ancestors of several thousands of years ago? I don't know.... I don't think I would do well if when I was in my 20's I had been dropped in rural anywhere from the 18th century. I don't think I would have been able to keep up with the workload and the living conditions - I was quite sporty and fit, but it is not the same as living off an insecure diet and working all the hours of the day. Using what people used to eat as guideline for what we should now eat would mean that people like me (with parents from different cultures) would have a very tricky time figuring out what I should eat (like most of the western world population at this point). It seems to me that comparing what people allegedly used to eat to what we eat now is ridiculous. We now have a wide array of foods available (those of us who have the good fortune of living near grocery stores and/or having a veg garden) and so we have the luxury of choosing what we want to eat. This is a relatively recent development and in some countries and regions in the world it still is not the case. People like this doctor don't seem to understand that. He seems to have this notion or conviction that sells products and so he has to 'back it up' with nonsense. Wait, is that the definition of a spin doctor??? is that the kind of doctor he is? I'll have to look that up....
My wife recently went to South Africa as part of her uni degree and South Africa in general is extremely animal products based and quite difficult to be vegan going out. Basically the way they see it is if you haven’t shot it you can’t eat it. She really struggled
I think people love their meat here, but from what I've heard, is that some countries in South America are worse. It's not really difficult to be vegan here, except from social pressure I guess. Also not always the best choices in a lot of restaurants.
@@davycrockett8886 Ditto in Australia. Vegan restaurants are few and far between and vege offerings in other restaurants are largely just tokenism, boring and unsatisfying. At least that's the case where I live. It may be different in Melbourne.
In Cape Town it's actually quite easy to eat vegan when going out. Most restaurants and cafes have something vegan or that can easily be veganized. Vegan options have grown rapidly in the past few years... there is even a vegan donut chain 😊
Glad to know! @@viia8638
We need animal rights activists there but from what I gleaned, even human rights may not be respected there.@@davycrockett8886
He's not the trimest or fittest looking person.
Who cares about 10,000 years ago as they lived to be ?? 30 on average. In Europe, the life expectancy was about 35 and began to increase in the 1860's. New plants and better distribution could help explain some of the increase. Along with antibiotics and surical techniques, our life expectancy now averages around 80 years.
Sadly, he does not look healthy and seems awfully angry.
Thank you Mic for the work you do!
Are you talking about Mic or the other chap? Mic looks terribly unwell to me.
As soon as you get the ‘doctor’ jumping up and down like that without looking at anything besides the ranting of their little group, you know they are a nutter. And unfortunately here in South Africa we breed some seriously nutty ‘shouty men’.
I was fortunate enough to spend time on a vacation at one of the oldest continuously inhabited Indigenous communities in North America in New Mexico. The foods are very interesting and a living legacy of the ancestors. I am no expert, but we had a couple different staple dishes made from acorn flour that were heavy and filling and no doubt uber nutritious. It's not a mystery what was eaten; these legacies have been handed down through the generations.
I don't care what people ate thousands of years ago.... what's the best things to eat now?
Q. What did the internet blogger say to the bag of potatoes?
A. "Hello TH-camrs."
I'll get my coat..
😋
Having lived in South Africa for 8 years, a lot of people in SA are serious about their meat. I had more than one person there tell me that he considered chicken as vegetables.
Chicken as vegetable 😂😂😂
I don’t know doc, but I’d rather not eat foods that actually make me sick. I’m one of the plant-based people who happens to get sick after eating animal products, either due to lactose intolerance or whatever I’m dealing with when it comes to meat. Plus living in a decidedly farming-dependent state, I’d rather not contribute to the death of so many animals.
Maybe in South Africa medical schools they don’t have the code “Do No Harm”
Of course in the US we have this medical code, but it’s not honored here either.
That's a good point about how many calories you need to build a brain vs. to fuel it. I heard a neurologist also say sat fat can't cross the BBB anyway and that the brain can make it's own cholesterol.
I don't care what people ate 100s, thousands, millions of years ago.... I want to know what should I eat now.
The notion that humans are carnivores and are supposed to eat meat biologically is laughable. Show me one human “carnivore” that can smell or hear a mouse in their house, and instantly starts stalking it and drooling, like my cats do. We have no adaptations like real carnivores to hunt and kill things with our built in tools/faces, have no sharpened senses like they have, and we certainly can’t kill anything and eat it whole and raw on the spot like real carnivores. Humans ate meat opportunistically in times of need, not cause we have some biologic imperative to eat it.
I ventured forth into the wild. I ate leaves and berries and it was easy. I tried to eat a mouse and it was weird
Tongue feel amirite? Must have tasted so wiggly.
yea and the mouse did not like it, he biteth me causing great pain and then his wormy flesh caused me to curl up in a ball of pain and die.
watching this while eating all my veggies and starches...
4,000 years ago, our ancestors did not use corrective lenses. Therefore, he should not wear glasses.
All these studies that you quote are associative and you state them as fact? Not even the researches in these studies would state them as fact...
I’ve been listening to some herbalism podcasts recently with mostly “nose-to-tail” eating hosts. I even started to question my 13 years of plant-based eating. Now after another refreshing video by you Mic, I realize that none of these people ever cite SCIENCE when they speak. I’ll stick with the science, thank you.
Cywes looks unhealthy from his weight to his coloring.
He looks ill, you can see it in his eyes and eye bags 🛍️
All the protein humans need is easily obtained in fruits and vegetables. Many are misled by powerful interests and YT slop. Truly sad
Humans spent most of our evolutionary history hunting with rocks, clubs, and spears. Early humans weren't running around with bow and arrows, and they certainly weren't sitting around in deer stands with rifles loaded with buck shot. So I'm going to need this doctor and his homeboys to grab some spears and see how many gazelles they can bring down, then remember they're feeding a group of 50 with mostly just that and no refrigeration. Then they come back and tell me how much meat we evolved to eat.
North America Indians.
We hunted in groups and later followed herds. Meat and fish were plentiful even with seasonal variations. Pemmican was essential in winter.
And pyramids were made by aliens.
It amazes me how people make a claim about thousands of years ago and say what they ate. How do they know?
Fragmented evidence. Ancient trash mounds and dental plague. Everything else is inferred.
If I did have to fly on a jet, no one would mind sitting next to me, I am a normal weight, thank you Dr. John McDougall! I have sat in the past with a person needing an extender belt. Quite uncomfortable!
I think this doctor needs to lose his license, no one who spouts lies to further a narrative that doesnt make any sense or scientifically based shouldnt be a doctor
And that little 'video which survived after humans vanished from the earth' I liked a lot: so clever and creative, brief and succinct. 👌
One point that should be made is.... We have lost 98% of our plants through hybridization and mono-culture farming. It is suggested that plants eaten by our ancestors were much more nutrient dense. You can thank modern farming practices for what we have now. So he's right that a lot of our plants were introduced through hybridization, but they didn't just fall out of the sky from a space ship, they are a genetic off-spring of what our ancestors ate. I've been vegetarian for 20+ years and plant-based for the last 7. I do have friends that are carnivores and I certainly don't criticize them. I just know for me, a plant-based diet has worked phenomenally.
He is embarrassing to listen to! Wow.
My mom is anti plants, full carnivore. It’s sad to see her health majorly decline. She falls for people like this.
How is her health declining?
Sorry to hear that. You can't help them and it's frustrating to see a loved one deteriorating because they've been misled, but they have to learn for themselves. It's really sad when they stubbornly refuse to see reality and would rather live in a world of make-believe where bacon and lard are somehow good for you.
My dad refused to stop eating meat/dairy/eggs and had heart attack after heart attack. His cholesterol was way too high, but he wouldn't stop eating an unhealthy diet. He grew up eating bacon and eggs for breakfast and believed people required a heavy meat diet for good health. He just wouldn't listen. The fifth heart attack killed him. 😢 I miss him each and every day. I have no doubt that he would still be here if he had changed his diet. His father, my grandfather, also died of heart disease and had several heart attacks before also succumbing to an early death from a meat-centered diet.
There are many people who just can't accept that the meat and dairy diet will likely take years off their lives. They've been lied to by the meat industry, the egg lobby and the dairy conglomerates. They push the fake low keto garbage on unwitting Americans and it is shortening lives.
i just cant stay near full carnivore, it is like they can not discuss anything important, my mom have to die alone now. so sad that she support animal abuse to get worse health and her kids avoid her....
@356h7 You avoid your mum because she eats meat.....how disgusting
How is her health declining?
Ever notice that there are no elderly carnivore or paleo advocates? But there are plenty of elderly vegan and plant based advocates. Wonder what happens to all those low carbers when they get old?
Don’t know what you’re talking about 😂
That is not quite true.
Look at the comments on the carnivore podcasts and you will see many 70, 80 and 90 year Olds, usually telling about their good health and absence of medications
@@charlotteprout-jones7257 Don't base your life on a few exceptions. You are gambling with your health. A man in Mexico has been smoking sence he was 16 and he is 101! Does that mean that you should start smoking?
You may want to take a few cues from people who live in five areas around the world designated as “Blue Zones.” These are places that have been shown to produce the highest number of centenarians (people who live to be 100 or older).
Blue Zone centenarians follow a predominantly plant-based diet, eating 95-100% plant-based. They primarily eat a variety of in-season fresh vegetables and fruits, whole grains and beans.
we don't need to eat plants for the brain to produce carbs, many people can eat a small amount of plants with their meat still and get the benefit of their keto diet, but I am not one of them, beef salt water butter is best for me, sometimes I add pork and chicken, rarely fish or seafood, and I have tried to stop drinking coffee to no avail, also I find cheese extremely addictive and will fast it from time to time. my body reacts negatively to plants and carbs no matter how much, but at least not as bad as in the beginning of this journey. carnivore changed my life.
years ago I followed a strict vegan diet for 18 mo and my fibro got worse.
today I am carnivore (except for coffee cheese and occasional glass of wine) 21 mo and my health keeps getting better each month.
if I would just quit the coffee and cheese......
Keep it up and ignore the vegan nut jobs
Our existence says otherwise lmao
Eat what works for you. For 25 days I stopped all net carbs except 1-2 teaspoons of honey and ate 90% meat and my blood pressure dropped from 120/80 to 95/68 on average. I personally do not need vegetables every day although they (broccoli, asparagus, and brussels sprouts) are really good with some butter and spices. Beef digests very easily and is a complete food leaving vegetables as a side dish for the most part. In reality the most important thing to do besides minimizing processed foods and Frankenfoods is to eat less and eat less often and exercise and get more sleep than you think is reasonable (like 9-10 hours).
Could everybody eat like you, is there enough land to feed all the bovines required?
He aslo claimed that all children hated brussel sprouts before 1996, which is ridiculous and I was proff, just ask my Mother.
Please, the amount of refined carbohydrates, including sugar, that is healthy to consume is completely dependent on how physically active you are. It is bonkers stupid to claim that a cyclist who sucks in 100-150 grams of sugar every hour while riding their bike 20 mph for five hours is somehow harming their health.
As shown by Durianrider. Also Walter Kempner showed that eating just plain rice and sugar gets people off their medications back in the 1950s.
The poisonous plants people kinda make me chuckle, cause beans are poisonous, unless we soak or cook them, but all these people are cooking their meat right? I guess a few of them may be trying to get their VC with raw meat. But most of them are eating cheap meat that's cooked. And that must mean they are supplementing at least the VC and some other essentials from the poisonous plant food group.
He has Sv3rige logic. Totally against vegetables because most of them are selectively bred. 🤦♂️
Anti nooootrients! 😂
@@jenerleein nature
@@jenerlee Cackling!
I always eat more fresh parsley with my rice in spite of that psychopath... He's terrified of the stuff 🥗
Vegan Logic: x = y²
...which therefore must mean: a = b²
Reminds me a lot of Flat-Earthers
Thank you for debunking the myths out there❣️
Well this particular doctor is never gonna vacation in Bali. Coz out here we got poisonous cassava if eaten raw😂😂😂😂😂. Out here in Indonesia we eat all sorts of poisonous seeds & roots along w/ weeds. They’re super tasty & healthy, not to mention cheap
Really commend you for clearing up such sad and harmful misinformation
bullshit
Keep up these videos Mikey (wish you didn't have to, but there is meatflakery everywhere)