BMW reveal 3 much cheaper versions of the BMW iX1, iX3 and i4 EVs
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- BMW reveal 3 much cheaper versions of the BMW iX1, iX3 and i4 EVs
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I took my first long trip from Virginia to New York (about 400 miles) with my BMW i4 eDrive40 a couple of weeks ago. I left with a full state of charge and made my first stop at an Electrify America charging station 243 miles away. What shocked me was that I was still showing 110 miles of range remaining. That's 343 total miles including miles traveled + remaining range. That's far greater than the 282 miles published as the official range by BMW. I am very happy with my decision to buy the BMW over a model Y or a Kia EV-6. Range is great. Build quality is light years ahead of Tesla. Ride and handling are superb. And I find the minimalist design of Tesla interiors to be boring and appliance-like. BMW has been making EV's for a decade now. It shows.
I can't imagine that ANY of the legacy's don't know how screwed they are!
I expect they are very aware
BWM still have reliability issues with the toasters on the front's of the cars, owners have reported after inserting a slice of bread, they fail to toast or eject them either. I'd wait until BMW fix this issue.
Are you saying BMW are toast? 😊
Why does this not have more upvotes? 😂
Model 3 Performance compared to BMW I4 - great review I will post link
Interior - quality - Interior material is just adequate (not a big fan of SensaTec) but build quality is excellent. However the best part of this car's interior is the sound insulation. While not as sensory-deprivation-chamber-quiet like the iX, it's still amongst the quietest cars I've driven/ridden in, and it includes my parents' 2016 S-class (the 18" wheels help). This alone sets the i4 apart from the Model 3, and 3rd party test shows it's about 4-6 dB quieter (which is very significant since dB is logrithmic) at highway speed. In reality it translates to a truly premium experience on the highway that my M3P was just not able to provide and was my least favorite thing about the Model 3. In my Model 3 I often turn up the music to hear it better but in my i4 I have turned on the music just to not fall asleep.
Fair review. Well done. Improves your credibility. 😊
Thanks! 👍
My iX1 is due in January. I got the eDrive30 under the EV discount threshold when it was new on the market before all the price rises. I preferred it to the Tesla Y because the interior was nicer for me, I really dislike minimalist look interiors (opinion). The exterior I think alsp looks better, less like an egg and more like an SUV (opinion). I also think it is going to be far less common on the road. To me, the Tesla Y is like Holden Commodore of 80s/90s, they are just becoming so common that despite them being great cars I don't want one because of that.
Are the iX1 or iX3 coming to the US?
People choose the BMW over the Tesla for the customer service and the existing dealer network. Excellent customer service and easy to get serviced and repaired if necessary. Tesla need s to improve in these areas.
As I understand it, Tesla service the cars wireless, and if that isn't enough, they do the job needed at you backyard.
Do you think that Tesla can sell cars year after year in Norway if the service doesn't work? I don't think so!
@@harmony3138total BS.
Never had an issue w Tesla service
People choose BMW only for the badge. Otherwise they are over engineered unreliable overpriced junk
Range is determined by the EPA, not Tesla. That will go nowhere. Service, well they go to your house. When I was a kid Rols Royce did that.@@harmony3138
A Ford CEO took an F150 lightning on a road trip from Bakersfield Calif to Las Vegas Nev , it did not go well he had trouble finding chargers, some were broken (but no mention on web site) and at one point he waited 40 minutes for a charge that only gave him 40 miles, it’s seems that those owners who have problems with their Teslas are not always dealt with in an expedient or honest manner, I’m surprised that no Tesla owners from Arizona haven’t called saying my batteries dead from the 110F heat we’ve had for 31 days, or how half the range is lost at minus 20 worse yet at minus 30, these are topics you avoid like the plague ,but something potential owners deserve to know.
Looks like a CCS connection... so that's a strike against.
Have been looking at the i4 but since the highland upgrade does not make sense on paper. Only reason to buy BMW is you are looking for a more traditional look and feel for a EV. However like you said they need to available to even consider it..
I have an i4. It's a great car. Can't compare to the model 3 as it's a real luxury car. I traded a model y and have never looked back.
@@stephenrye6474Tesla is not for everyone, just as why Mercedes exists or Audi, etc. But the Model 3 refresh should not go ignore.
@stephenrye6474 a little fresher design of i4 or space of ix3? why did you choose i4? AWD is not a must for me.
@@nguyep4No signal light ergonomics .... arghh!! How to sell this in Europe with all the roundabouts and parallel bike paths, tight inner cities - you need to watch all sides and look at the steering wheel (instead of traffic) to signal .... or another Alibaba add on without warranty? No ergonomic challenge in a BMW. Focus on the drive! (I don't own or seak either brand.)
@@nas4apps People said about Tesla lack of speedometer would be a distraction or the one pedal driving. That hasn't stop people from buying their cars.. People will get used to it.
I know which auto I would like to have in my driveway when I walk out in the morning and feel I've achieved something in life and so I can have some snob value and feel superior to my neibours and it isn't a poor fit and finish Tesla.
Common Model 3 is no near i4 when it comes to general build quality, interior or cabin noise or ride quality.
BMW lowered some prices which is great in the competition with ICEs! The real competition is not so much with other EV brands except maybe (always ...) Mercedes Benz and a bit Audi. And yes, BMW is making strides! Luxury with a sporty ride - hard to top. But the price though - lowered now!
Prices are not really lower. They just introduced cheaper variants in their model line ups.
Just exchanging AUD to USD is false. Different countries can have very different prices.
I have an ix3 company car and its due for a change year. I agree that its just an x3 with the engine taken out and lacks some thought around driving an ev. Feels a but dated in comparison to EVs built from the ground up.
BMW is doing pretty good over here with their X1 / iX1 line of cars. All 3 versions are in the top 10 company cars for the first half of 2023 in Belgium:
1) BMW X1 PHEV
2) VW ID.4 BEV
3) TESLA Model Y BEV
4) VOLVO XC40 Recharge BEV
5) BMW iX1 BEV
6) BMW 1 Reeks
7) Audi A3 Sportback PHEV
8) Audi Q3 Sportback PHEV
9) Audi A3 Sportback
10) BMW X1
I drove a BMW iX and it made me much happier with my Model Y
A bit over 400 km range in this day and age is way too little. Add kids, bagage and cold weather and what will you have, 300km? Double the range and it would be an interesting proposition. Once longer ranges are available in a couple of years time, the resell value will be low. Also the EV prices for new cars will most likely be lower. Financially it doesn’t make sense to buy an electric luxury vehicle currently, as a company car yes, but privately?
One thing for sure the i4 won't leak oil like other BMWs.
Electric Viking is pivoting AGAIN 😂😂😂😂
No need to be a brainless fanboy/hater of any brand. Judge base on tear product.
Hello mate
Unless BMW joins the NACS standard, the company will remain at a competitive disadvantage in North America. The BMW executives should take a long road trip in U.S to understand the issues with third party networks.
BMW are already reasonably priced in Europe and the US. In Australia, it's a different matter. I have only ever bought Mercedes and BMW cars second hand, a few years old, and let someone else take the hit on price. There seem to be a cliche of buyers in Australia that like to show off that they can afford to overpay for a car. The German brands tap into that buyer mentality.
I'd maybe slum it and get the id4 or Enyaq (more space) as they have decent efficiency (vs non-Teslas) - but once Model Y / Juniper launches there'd be no competition. BMW did much better imo with the i3! Far more innovative, ugly, but gret space, "just" needed a more modern battery & motor. These ix1/ix3 - meh. Get the new Mini Countryman that's cheaper and effectively the ix1 if you must.
I like tesla safety,tech and charging infrastructure and how the car can be continuously updated with all in-house programming. Don’t like the look, quality, Confort , noise .. the BMW ride and highways speed Confort and driving pleasure are very important.. quality is important for the luxury buyers.. again I respect and consider the tesla.. but after driving them I am left wanting more luxury and comfort from the seats, the sound insulation and overall some cheap looking. Rear taillights.. they need to improve the quality
The iX1 and iX3 are not a ground up EVs they are an X1 & X3 with a transplant.
@@furry_homunculus yep an ice car with a transplant and blocked up grill. Just add £15,000 to the ice price.
They aren't dedicated EV platforms that's why the range and efficiency are crap among many other things.
Range is estimated by the EPA. ON winter they are the ones who lost lest range (the heqat pump) In day to day the EPA is revising their formula for EV. Will provide hughway ,and cityb driving just like ICE cars.@@furry_homunculus
Model Y USA long Range 82k for family 3,500 7 seats 💺 +79k
Well done bmw now all you need to do is build a super charger network
Good morning Sam
Morning!
Sam says it as it is with no fannying about 👍
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The BMW pricing in the UK is ridiculous. A comparable ix1 (which is smaller than a MY) is no less than £61k. Less performance, less range, added service cost but with the addition of AWD. The Beemer has to be £15,000 less to be competitive.
@@johnsmith-cw3wo Let's hope none of these Beemer buyers realise this EV is made in China then. That Badge Snobbery ain't cheap!
No one can touch Tesla in all aspects of design and tech and value, light years ahead of bmw shmimw
I just want to have enough money to either invest in Tesla or own one
You need multiple sources of income, get a financial planner or expert on investments to aid diversify your portfolio to commodities index funds, digital assets etc, to provide illumination and guidance in the financial markets..
Honestly this cannot be overemphasized, helping people mitigate unforseen circumstances and mistakes, that's why I hire aid in my investments too
I started last summer and it's been a series of losses for me. I'm finding it very difficult to make profits and I'm getting extremely frustrated, it's not as easy as it looks on TV
I feel your pain mate, as a fellow retiree, I'd suggest you look into passive index fund investing and learn some more. For me I had my share of ups and downs when I started looking out for consistent passive income, so I hired an expert advisor for aid. And following his advice I poured 30k into value stocks and digital assets, I'm up to 200k so far, and I'm sure ready for whatever comes
a Canoo!
With tesla I would cross shop toyota, Honda, Hyundai and Kia products. With BMW I would cross shop Lexus, Mercedes, Audi
With the supercharger network, looks like the tesla is the only option
I recognize that I'll be considered a bit of a wackadoodle for this, but 100% BMW... because the Tesla doesn't have a speedometer or any sort of information display directly in front of the driver. Kudos to Tesla for doing what's necessary to reduce costs in its electric vehicles, but this particular omission is not for me. The singular center screen on the Model 3 and Y make the car seem low-end.
I just checked ! Affordable? 55k in Sweden ! BMW x1 2023
I would buy the bmw
In the mobile phone world, you have iOS and Android, with iOS you're very limited in the choice of hardware, has to be Apple. With Android you have a huge selection of hardware to choose from. In the EV world, you have Tesla OS and basically no other OS that competes, looking on the bright side, at least it makes for an easy choice.
Are these still built by Chinese or built in Germany
All you have to do is look at the German Economy to know the answer,Toyota and Nissan say the same,very sad but true.
High energy prices due to their renewables push have focked them
I'm not sure mate Tesla does do fart sounds 😂
The Bmw, for space in the back. Not sure why , model Y is called a SUV, good car but just looks like a Sedan to me.
No one talks about the Tesla motors
They work forever. but BMW engines? everybody talks about them. 50 cent plastic part requires pulling the gas engine. Thanks BMW!
They look very dangerous for pedestrians. Why do they need such a high bonnet?
Very nice but where’s their chain of BMW Charging Hubs ? Every single Tesla comes with a whole heap of chargers with reasonable costs per kilowatt whereas BMW drivers have to rely on what other chargers are about and pay through the nose per Kw. These old manufacturers seem to miss the point that its not just the car its the refuelling too all in one bundle. Maybe if these wonder cars can travel 500+ miles per charge then a reasonably priced charging network won’t be needed but the reality is they will be nowhere near that range so users will have to buy from the likes of Ionity or BP who are eye-wateringly expensive especially if you don’t have a pay-monthly account.
We have an iX3 in the family, its quite nice but not in any way competition to our Model Y long range. If I won the Lotto tomorrow I would still keep our MYLR as I just don’t see anything thats near to it on the market …..yet
Here we can talk about real long time testing and comparing, no detail forgotten. It's interesting to read comments from people who know what they are talking about!
They charge at home. Because they own one. 😅
@@robertfonovic3551 and only drive a maximum of 100 miles away from home as their range is pathetic, we had 2 in our family so this is real life experience talking not rhetorical thoughts or opinions based on gut feelings
@stevenbarrett7648 you had 2 of what " in your family "? You state that BMW EV owners only drive around 100 miles, what is this comment based on? Your gut feel? My gut feel is that you are full of crap.
Get a m3p for the price of the bottom i4, get a model x for the price of a x3, yea tesla got nothing to worry about
Reductions r due to high interest rates (18 fold in bout a year) in a debt based economy. It's called recession and so long as that central bank rate is high people will be skint.
Very confusing but my take more money than tesla no tax rebate, no hope for FSD🤷♂️
i"d go Model 3 because the i4 doesn't have one pedal driving.
The i4 does indeed have a one pedal drive mode.
BMW because of more comfortable ride, better sales service and phone app features and better air conditioning system as well as sunroof that comes with a blind. Tesla unfortunately has become too generic and increasing synonymous to Uber.
BMW USA , to the best of my knowledge, is insisting on keeping ccs, develping their own charging network and not adopting nacs. Based on that alone, I won't buy a BMW electric.
i am currently selling my f31 bmw for the new Tesla model 3. BMW is definitely too high on price for what it is. OK, we pay for those nice engines and chassis, but regarding the rest, it does not worth it. Too many options and very expensive. Anyway, i am selling it to get a better price/quality/performance/technology ratio
Glad to see BMW making some effort. Maybe in three years they can match the 2023 Tesla models. Should have started earlier :/
the did start early with the I3, just paused in the middle and got behind.
iX already outsells Model X and Model S combined in Europe.....
Tesla cars go further on a charge, cost less, have better software, have better charging infrastructure, are faster.
Wow, so BMW are willing to lose more per model EV than they already do. I wonder how much more they can bleed
Tesla has its own network. BMW does not have started one yet.
💯% The Y
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4:03 BMW fan 😂 an I'm not
These should be compared to model S and X, both are quite expensive and don't offer good value.
The ix1 edrive20 has the motor in the front. Not good for a BMW.
T # 1
BMW drives much better than Tesla and looks much better inside and outside too 😍
Looks are a matter of taste. I prefer the Tesla. BMW grills why ?
I would genuinely have been interested if it had a bit more range. But 260 miles doenst cut it for me unless its a Tesla with SC access. However, (at 6 minutesin) The THREE (not two) features drivers really want are digital display in fromnt of driver, heads up display and >>a freaking indicator stalk
There will be some BMW fan boys who will buy these with their eyes closed.
Every chav in the uk has a clapped out bmw, they cant drive them though because of the price of fuel , there are thousands for sale on eBay for a few thousand quid ,the prestige has been tarnished beyond repair, in my opinion 😮
Same price as Tesla if you do not add in the cost of tires, windshield, and the batteries which are all optional. Add those in and it costs like 249,020 dollars. Just guessing here of course.
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It's like choosing between a smart phone or an old Nokia, the Tesla is so advanced in it's software, it's a no brainer, it will be the Tesla
There is a lot more to a car then software. It is a physical experience and the German car companies have been building cars much longer then Tesla, it's not all about range, power and charging speed. Your spending ten's of thousands on a new car, you have to like the feel, the look, the experience. Tesla's technical advantage's are exaggerated and it is probably going to compete with major innovations from German car makers in mass produced electric cars within 5 - 10 years.
German companies have already developed electrical engines with advances and they are starting to put gearing systems that are designed to maximise torque efficiency, that fit within the EV drive system. The Germans will leverage their strengths; They will have a state of the art gearbox fitted right at the wheels and maximise power and efficiency. I suspect part of the decision by Tesla manufacturing in Germany is to build a relationship with German companies and form some collaboration.
@@alexandermelbaus2351 You would like to think that Teslas technological advantages are exaggerated but they are not exaggerated at all.
German car manufacturers have been caught napping and it will take 10 years to get to were Tesla is today. The production techniques developed by Tesla means that they can make very large profit out of every car sold, unlike German firms who make a huge loss out of every EV they make and just a small profit out of ICE vehicles.
German manufacturers have traditionally made up for small profits by the profits made in dealerships, but EV's do not need the maintenance or the amount of repairs that ICE cars do and with the Tesla sales model, the end of the dealership is coming to an end.
Teslas production techniques are showing the traditional car manufacturers up
@@stevehayward1854 Across the German car companies and the industry within Germany they have experience building everything from motor bikes, submarines, jet planes, helicopters, trucks, tanks. F1 race cars. Germany is one of the countries at the forefront of creating different metals, precision tools, advanced parts. Germany supplies the best scientific equipment and chemicals. German ingenuity has a history of finding scientific solutions to it's problems. They are on the back foot but expect to see great innovations now they are directing their efforts towards electric cars. This is going to be good, I don't know why you sound so negative about it.
Car manufacturers do not rely on services for income, dealership's do. The engine and gearbox rarely needs parts that are supplied by the manufacturer. Most of all the other parts are the same. I would think that all car manufacturer's make more money from smash repairs. Oil, leads, spark plugs, coolant and brake pads are made normally by other companies. There are some parts like hoses which would be common, but it is dealerships and car mechanics that are going to suffer here mostly.
I’m not considering any EVs until Toyota brings their EVs to the market. That’s when real competition will start. I will choose an EV then and it won’t necessarily be a Toyota, it’s just that the competition will be better for the average Joe.
Toyota don’t make any EV’s. They have one awful model made by BYD.
Tesla’s compact $25k car comes out next year and BYD will surely flood the European market.
EV’s will be much cheaper already in 2024. Forget Toyota they are headed for bankruptcy.
Toyota have released the bz4x, about the same price as Tesla model Y. There are plenty of reviews of it.
@@EwanM11 yeah true but has it reached Australia yet? I heard there’s a delay, also I am not even sure you can even order one.
Toyota use all old tech and cheap light body panel to keep its reliability. Toyota EV BZ4X is just a true joke. Even Lexus UX EV is a very expensive rubbish.
There are some advantages of choosing BMW over Tesla
1. Tesla has 5 colors to choose from. No individualization like BMW. Color, interior design, wheels
2. Head up display
3. Matrix LED?
4. There are so many teslas on the streets. Its getting boring. With ix1 you're more exclusive
5. I don't like RuSSkij Puta Elon Musk
6. Working speed limit recognition in BMW (in Europe tesla sucks)
7. Proper buttons for many things.
8. Blinker in the old good way in BMW
9. FSD autopilot in Tesla on european highways sucks. Bmw is doing that better
10. Real parking sensors
11. Overall better build quality
I own bmw i3 and Tesla MX and I know what I am talking about ☺️
So you hate tesla but own one
@@whocares264 i am realistic sumply and not a fan boy of tesla
There are so many teslas on the streets, I wonder why?....I leased a tesla 3 now for financial reason i purchased a used bmw i3 rex which is such a backward step , but i like evs so i will put up with bmw toy car till i can get a proper car, a tesla again.
@@whocares264bmw i3 (without stupid smelly range extender) is a beautiful city car.
Super cool to drive.
Revolutionary concept 15 years back.
Suicide doors, carbon chassis etc
I love my i3
@@maksmaksowski8408 without the smelly range extender it has no range.
good to hear you admit it is a city car not a proper car...
not everyone has to compete with tesla. people have different needs which tesla cannot cover just like toyota could do with ICE.
right now german brands have trouble on cost control. they need to work that out. i hope they don't address the cost issue with using cheaper materials like tesla.
I don't see how they can reduce cost without hitting the bottom line.
@@EwanM11 they can stay more expensive than tesla if their products use better material. don't try to be model 3 and y, be more like model S and X.
@@qilu2004 the real question is whether they can make EVs profitable.
@@EwanM11 with volume they will make profits. 3 chinese ev makers are already profitable. more and more ev makers will in the future.
@@qilu2004 but to get high volume they need to reduce price and make them cheaper so more people can afford them. Not an easy equation.
Are they coming from bmw or just a Chinese ev with a bmw badge 😂
The big front grill looks gaudy. I hate it.
Looks like a pair of sun glasses.
A face only a mother could love
BMW of course. At least they will not reduce price 3 times in one year and make the owner loose thousands dollars in weeks like an idiot
Don’t like the look of the Tesla. Also don’t like buying from a company that is relatively new at making cars. From want I have read and seen on TH-cam reviews, Tesla make a good battery, charging system and have a good charging network but make a crap car. Also quality is nothing like a BMW. Also BMWs drive really well. I had a look at both and there is no comparison.
After hiring a Model Y long-range in QLD, for 3 weeks and travelling 6000 km with no issues, I will be getting the Model Y.
Nope not interested in buying any of these. Still too expensive (IMHO Tesla Model Y is too). We have to stop trying to push these $50k area SUV’s - we need mass market $30k cars otherwise we’re just chasing the same customers over and over again.
Chinese ev's barely costs that but too bad american and europeans cant get it at those prices
lol, Tesla is a cheap interior mass market car, cant compare to premium BMW
Gas BMWs are known for electrical issues you think I’m gonna buy an electrical vehicle from the BMW? I’ve owned an E60 and thought I got a lemon so I traded it on an I3 and it was a complete mess. NEVER again BMW.
LOL
The penny has finally dropped for the Germans. If they can compete more closely on price with Chinese brands, people will still buy German imo (Altho mercedes is slowly becoming a Chinese brand)
Ix3 loses on everry spec to Model Y
Those BMW’s would be a major problem to fix… BMW, quality is downright horrible
BMW buyers are welded on. If BMW says EVs are no good, BMW buyers will avoid them. If BMW buyers hear that BMW now approves of EVs then they will buy one from BMW.
Nothing changes the fact that BMW is behind the times on EVs. Moreover, BMW has lost its loudly publicised leadership in European vehicle manufacturing to Tesla.
4th person to comment
your mom is proud
You can’t compare tesla to BMW AS THEY ARE LUXURY BRAND AND TESLA IS NORMAL BRAND.
BMW has been moving downmarket.
They want to sell cars then "THEY" got to reduce the price.
Tesla started the domino effect. 👍
1st to give a thumbs up 👍
And 1st to be 1st 🤗 🥇
Tesla's in it for the long run. The others are in and out of EVs. Who knows ten years from now if there will still be spare parts for non Tesla EVs.
BMW ? slow, kinda clunky looking, busy interior, quality not good on their gas cars, so........... no
BMW is losing customers.
BMW tries too hard to copy Tesla. Flush door handles, stuck on tablet screen, nothing to do with electrification. But it didn't fix their ugly oversized kidney grill. When will Germans learn to put practicality and reliability before styling trends?
Over the last 10 years bmw have built abismal cars , they forgot how to build quality or did they just cash in on the name😂😂
buy US and German cars! Avoid chinese crap due their aggressive politics!
@@furry_homunculus i talk about 100% chinese cars funded by government
BMW makes highly unreliable gas cars after over 100 years in business. Now they’re making a me too EV. I’ll pass.
It’s over everyone. Tesla wins