BMW i4 vs Polestar 2 2022 shoot-out - Two Tesla alternatives but which is best? / Electrifying
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The UK electric car market has been dominated by the Tesla Model 3 of late, but while it once was the default choice there are now some excellent alternatives.
Two of which are the brand new BMW i4 and the still relatively new Polestar 2. Both offer different things from each other, but which one would we go for? Nicki and Tomi find out.
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00:00 - Intro
00:59 - BMW i4
01:53 - Polestar 2
02:31 - Style - i4
04:13 - Interior & Tech
08:23 - Practicality
10:21 - Range & Charging
11:30 - Driving
13:57 - Verdict - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Interesting how they never mention that Nicki is a BMW brand ambassador and gets ‘free’ cars as part of her deal
Makes her opinion in this video invalid I guess?🧐 win for polestar then😅
Who is she
@@KeNetiX yes when you also consider the other comparison between these two plus tesla 3 polestar won
@@Karl-Benny doesn't matter proper ethics means they need to disclose that. I've seen independent youtube reviewers with more integrity and transparency than this.
Which one is Vicky
I ordered an i4 M50 to replace my 2016 M4… time to go green.
I’ve driven both cars, and I can tell you that there is a huge difference when it comes to handling and driving dynamics. The i4 is a proper sports car that drives heavenly compared to the P2. The P2 can be fun too, but nothing near the driving quality of the i4, in my opinion.
If you’ve driven sports car before, specially the BMW ones, you’ll find the i4 the better choice. It has also better range, faster charging and bigger booth space. It is more expensive though.
Personally I like the interior of the P2 better, but I wouldn’t trade that for the handling and driving experience that the i4 gives.
Bottom line> both cars are better than Tesla M3!
I couldn’t disagree even though I own a P2. If only the i4 had an AWD trim that isn’t an m50. Then I could’ve gotten it instead(budget limit).
I drive an Escalade but even I notice all the Tesla destination chargers and superchargers along highways even in the rural Midwest. Where do these EVs power up for long trips?
@@weightliftingdoktor I don't know where you live, but it's highly dependant on which country you're from. You could download apps that pretty much shows all of the available chargers or sometimes it's even built into your car's navigation.
@@AW-gj4ji near Gilman, IL. We're not big into EVs around here, but there's a Tesla station off the 57 Interstate at a BP. Wonder if other EVs can rig a connection.
@@weightliftingdoktor There's also electrified America, but you will have to check if there are many near your location.
In some countries Tesla superchargers are open to other EV. However, I don't think they have done that for the US yet.
I”take the i4: more range, higher efficiency, faster charging, bigger bootspace, quieter to drive, option for HUD, sunroof that can open etc.
But Frans, if the range, higher efficiency, faster charging and the sunroof aren't a priority or a critical factor, then the BMW looks rather costly. Plus BMW's carry stigma for some.......
The P2 is a MUCH nicer car in every way
@@sharpcircle said no one ever.
@@bigfirepop apart from virtually everyone in this thread...
@@sharpcircle *no one with any sort of sense
Better?
I have driven both and felt in live with the i4 as of one week I also have mine after a 11 months wait. The driving is so enjoyably and verry compatible to a petrol powered BMW with rear wheel drive.
For me the polestar is much more fun to drive and you feel better in polestar because it’s a special car and isnt just a normal bmw. Drived polestar for a week and people toke photos and asked about me who I am and how the car is. But when I drive the bmw for 1 week no one even noticed me haha. Just a regular new bmw. Polestar is sush a nice drive and love it. Just got hand on my 2024. 610km. Lovely car. Just did a trip in north Sweden in the winter storms. 550 km drive in this weather. Crazy cool car.
Didn't bring out the ride comfort. As many EVs I've tested have rougher rides due to the battery weight, I'd like to hear about the comfort factor - especially given the apalling state of our roads. I has a BMW 340d M£ X-drive over the summer and was hugely impressed by the comfort as well as the drive. I think the i4 may pip the Polestar on that major factor.
2:53 "It's kind of under the radar"
BMW Grill: Hey, wassup?
It's an electric sheep disguised as a gas-guzzling wolf-- complete with a big set of teeth.
As others have said, should have specced the Polestar higher so it matches the money spent on the M sport i4. Not quite a fair match.
I think it’s fair. The iM50 would be even more expensive. Completely out of the market price. It would have been worse actually.
'Love your videos and presenters. Really nice to watch. Thank you.
You said you were comparing the top spec Polestar, but you didn't, and the styling and ride quality really are different with the 20 inch wheels, the Brembo brakes, ohlins dampers, and color accents.
It seemed quite difficult to navigate through the BMW menus to get to the safety features. Much quicker with the Polestar.
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China.
China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model.
This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
A lot of comments about the i4 being better than the P2, but when you spend an additional 25-50% you would expect it.
how does your math work? The difference is 10-15 %, not 25-50.
@@peterhammer4644 I posted this 8 months ago. Why would you expect the prices to be still the same after this amount of time? Now it is just under 25%. With the BMW starting at £55k and Polestar between £42k-£50k.
It's not better though.
In the US the difference is only 10%.
@@owitney BMW dealers will give you a 20%+ discount on a new one. Polestar prices are fixed. They are effectively the same price.
I can't get my eyes off that P2, I bought one right after testing one and I am enjoying it.
I’m gonna test drive next week. Did you go for the dual motor version?
@@badboy250984 Yes because of the AWD
We are going for a test drive tomorrow but orders are suspended till April 11.
do you still like it ? any harshness in the ride ?
@@gregoryberke7201 we placed an order but new models have uglier wheels and no pixel lights here in Europe. Ordered a used showroom model with 500 miles on the clock instead and had it delivered last week. Amazing car. Bit firm but that's well handling cars for you. Feels glued to the road.
Have swapped my BMW5 series which I loved for the Polestar2. You can get a highly specced Polestar compared to the basic BMW I4 at the same money. The BMW will be 10k more(at least) to get something close. I'm a convert to it's looks inside and out, as well as it's highly intuitive google software, which is better. Fast, fun, and kinda Scandi cool.
You swapped a 5 series for Polestar? Jesus man 🤦.
Why didnt you review an equivalent P2 with performance pack to match the BMW M ? The handling is different with the Ohlin dampers and Brembo brakes and 469bhp?
The P2 for me. Still looks as modern as it did a few years ago when it was revealed.
Yes, but it is a chinese car🤮
@@victorc.979 And what's wrong with that? I'm sure you're talking to me on a Chinese made phone, laptop etc right now
@@dave9614 yes, but a Phone is nothing compare to an car price, and if I could buy an german Phone, I would buy it insantly, but they are all made in China, and this is also why I'am keeping my Phone for more than 3 years already
@@victorc.979 Didn't answer my question; what's wrong with Chinese products? They are high quality, often higher quality than German brands.
@@dave9614 the fact that I they are gaining more and more money and their gouvernement is not a good one, and they treat their people(the workers) like animals, and it is not a good thing for Europe if we move all the production in China
The Polestar 2 single motor gets better range (336 miles WLTP) than the dual motor - prices start at £44,900. Polestar looks better IMHO - hate the BMW grill. I bought a Tesla Model Y recently and I'm loving it! My first EV.
Nice video and great presentation. P2 for me, but I would say that as I have one ordered in due in a couple of weeks. Just wish it was a bit lighter and had the I4 range.
Nothing wrong with Polestar 2 but I am so looking forward to taking delivery of my BMW i4 eDrive 40 in March.
No mention that the Polestar2 steering has different settings which is akin to sports or relaxed handling, also the single pedal driving has different settings linked to regenerative breaking. There are lots of other functions that were not explored and a more balanced review of inside tech would give a balanced view. Oh and for transparency...I am a Polestar lover after test driving one, so there is a hint of bias...despite my comments being based on fact!!! Lol 🤗
The Polestar 2 is about 2,5 years older than the BMW … it would be shocking if battery and charging of the BMW would be worse. Saying the BMW feels exactly the same as a normal BMW, is not a compliment, electric driving is a superior driving experience with the exception of the range. The infotainment is upgraded nicely, but still that ancient control wheel in the middle.
I own a P2 & I definitely agree with everything
Polestar 2 , android automative is a big advantage and i4 look like all over ICE bmw models. You should compare both dual motors. Bmw dual motors is really fast but the range is very low
I'm in the market for a EV and I watched a lot of videos. P2 ranks very high in my book. I love the interior and the material used in the P2. I had a Volvo S60 a few years ago and I enjoyed owning that car. The S60 never failed on me unlike my earlier BMW E92. Between i4 and P2, P2 for me. But between Model 3 long range and P2, I still need a little more time to decide.
Man... we are exactly on the same dilema(s). :). P2/i4/T3sr... can't decide for the life of me
@@Sakonimo Between P2 dual motor, M3 dual motor, and EV6 AWD I ended up with the EV6 awd.
I tested the Tesla Model 3 Performance, it is a great car, but the range and charging network were not enough to beat the P2 in my personal opinion. Due to the basic interior, the blurred rear windscreen caused by the curvature of the glass and the speed & sat nav information is only displayed on the centre screen (I didn't like needing to keep looking left).
Hard pass on the BMW for the grille alone. Evs don't even need them but at least polestar made theirs aesthetically pleasing. BMW have forgotten how to make decent looking cars.
Yeah it looks like rabbit teeth. I ordered a P2 with all 3 packs.
@@DougDoan p2 too. Shorter range though to keep insurance down cos the mrs only has a provisional licence. Ordered plus, pilot, leather seats though.
I don't think you can go wrong with either one; I'd get either one over a Tesla. I think the i4 is a little nicer than the Polestar, and that's probably the direction I'd go in (the eDrive 40 seems to be the best value of the three i4's as well... the m50 is awesome but not for an additional $10k). One thing to keep in mind (and this probably isn't an issue in the UK) if you're buying in the US is that Polestar's dealer network is still pretty small. The closest one to me is almost 3 hours away, which isn't really practical.
I think I would go for the Polestar . I find the interior presentation is less fussy and overwhelming . The price also clinches the deal for me .
Like and subscribed I love the polestar when I sell my leaf I am getting a polestar
Might just be me but i love the i4 grill. It's excellent
The i4 just looks better, inside and out, but if I was to get one, I would do something about the glossy black on the front grill, makes it look more offensive than it needs to.
P2 for me: I can look at it without hurting my eyes!!!
Please do a BMW i4 vs KIA EV6 comparison.
Thanks guys- have been waiting for this comparison for quite some months now!- however I couldn’t make a pick, love them both for different reasons- waiting for the fall update on the polestar 2, finally bringing apple car play
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China.
China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model.
This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
well thats easy. if you can afford it pick bmw, if not pick polestar. bmw is like 15-20k more expensive if you want full options and not just standard bmw
@@xondeez757 Is it really that much more expensive in the UK for the BMW with the options? Here in the US, the eDrive 40 tops out at about $64k USD with every option on it.
@@JustMe99999 i dont know about USA but in many European countries you have to pay like 20-25% import tax which greatly increases the price of a car.
a typical 22k car in USA will cost like 30k in europe. this is why many europeans despite being wealthier on average than americans drive older and worse cars.
with my 50k salary, i can only afford a Golf but in america i could easily afford a polestar or bmw with this salary. its sad but the tradeoffs are worth it.
Assuming it's a press car, who from BMW allowed it to go out with the registration YAWN?
range & aero matters. i4 for me. i would take it with 17 inch rims for even better efficiency.
Overview of the cabin makes no reference to use of soft or hard touch plastics. The BMW infotainment menu had so many widgets on it that it looked like an unorganized App Drawer on a phone, no criticism?
Informative comparison. I think I'd opt for the P2, but I'd need to actually see and drive them to say for sure. I wish that in your review you'd have mentioned what driver assistance features they have. I would imagine traffic-aware cruise control is a given, but what about auto lane steering or even auto lane change? If the latter features are available, how hands-free are they?
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China.
China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model.
This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
@Voltify Exactly. Tired of being nickeled and dimed for features that should just be standard at that price tag.
P2 owner here. The driver assistance package called ‘Pilot’ cost extra but has all those features.
Basically Polestar 2 has three options :
Plus - panoramic roof; better sound system +
Pilot - Driver assistance package
Performance- bigger wheels, better braking +
Look up out of spec reviews and Bjorn he covered all that
Great review thanks although it would have been good to see more on the assistance systems. Polestar for me although I’d go for rear motor long range. I prefer the fact it’s a dedicated EV platform as well as the overall design and looks.
The Polestar is not on a dedicated EV platform.
Polestar 2 is based on a 2016 concept gasoline car. No ev platform yet. That’s polestar 3
Not a tough decision, Tesla has the fast charging network. No range anxiety is a thing.
@@oldbasted
With the production capability of Tesla and how well they’re selling I wouldn’t be so sure the superchargers will open to the public. Hope your BMW isn’t plagued with battery and software problems a la Audi and VW.
@@oldbasted Let’s see what happens in the UK. Knowing a Tesla can plan, give the status and stall availability from the nav menu is quite the reassurance. Oh, and nothing thrashes a Tesla, not even a BMW.
This is a BMW vs Polestar video.
My tesla's quality is absolute crap. Looking forward to getting rid of it. If I could swap it for an i4 today I would in a heartbeat.
This channels presenter gets sponsored by BMW though… Also, the BMW did break the internet with style, and is certainly not under the radar. The front grille is by far the worst styling decision since the Pontiac Astek
Can u guys review the eqe43 or 53 amg?
Ive just test driven the i4 M50 , drive 40 and polestar . I currently have a mini electric and had high hopes for the BMW. My son has the new 220i coupe which for me is a much better drive than the I4. I was disappointed in the ride of the I4 - the adaptive dampers made it float and feel detached on the road . The polestar is not as sporty but was my choice . It is very personal and I think they are both awesome cars.
The m50 actually drives worse than the eDrive 40 according to most of the reviews I've seen.
I've got the BMW i4, had it a year now and its an amazing car. Although public charging in the UK is a nightmare, but that's not the cars fault. I've got it as a company car for four years in total but I would happily take another one when the renewal comes round.
Had the bmw for one week and didn’t feel nothing special but the polestar 2024 is amazing 600 km cool drive. Great feeling also!
@@andreasl4507 yeh but it’s a Volvo…
You pay a premium for going electric, and the best they can say is it feels just like a petrol car.... BIG FAIL for the BMW. If I am going to pay more for something I expect it to be a better product. The Polestar 2 is a better product than a comparably priced ICE car. Clearly the winner here.
As a PS2 driver I'm a little biase here, but completely agree with everything on this video. A couple of extras that were not mentioned, the Polestar has ventilate front seats, which are not an option on the BMW and if you go with the single motor version you get additional rear boot space where the second motor would be. I don't know of any other i4 features so any owners please share. The BMW does look and feel more grown up but as a thirty year old professional the Polestar has that young and fun edge that the BMW just doesn't.
You CAN get ventilated front seats on the i4. Besides that, the BMW has much more options to choose from the the Polestar. They all look the same, almost no chance for "personalising" the car.
ventilated front seats ? on the Polestar 2 ? which spec is that. Don't see that mentioned in Pilot, Plus packages
One thing you didn’t mention was the phone app. Polestar app is not good, according to a polestar owner I know. It’s very bad actually. BMW app isn’t very good, but it works. If you try to preheat your polestar, you may not get any connection. In the bmw it works ..most of the time.
The only thing of value that I got out of this "review" is that the green color isn't as bad as it looks in the BMW build website.
The screen itself looks lovely. However, I don’t go a bundle on the plastic “struts” at the back seemingly propping it up. Who came up with that as a design feature? Not only is it ugly, but I can just imagine fingers getting caught and knuckles grazed trying to dust and clean behind the screen!
don't forget to download the additional horsepower on the Polestar :)
polestar for me. I hate BMWs for various reasons although all the issues I had was with ICE models. I just love the elegance and confidence that the Volvo (Polestar) gives :)
The Nissan LEAF had the function in the sat nav to tell you how far you could drive with remaining charge in 2011 - nice of BMW to catch up!
Way back then us Leaf drivers called that the GOM. the Guess-O-Meter, because of how inaccurate it was! I dont pay attention to it in my i4, nor in my Tesla MY.
@wilber8260 there was also a circle on the map with e.g. a 50 mile radius, iirc it was more pessimistic and therefore accurate than the GoM.
Probably the two choices for my next car. In terms of design I like the Polestar more, but the BMW has better drivetrain and interior.
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China.
China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model.
This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
I drove and iX yesterday and what struck me (I own a Tesla Model Y) is that the infotainment is baffling, regen is very weak and the gear shifter is rubbish versus a column shifter
That Polestar 2 is not top spec. You don’t have the performance package which adds the adjustable Ohlins dampers, Brenbo brakes, 20” forged alloy performance wheels with performance summer tires, and all the cool gold accents and seatbelts. That’s going to make a big difference if you want to have a more sporty drive by tightening up the suspension and being able to smash the brakes, or you can loosen up the suspension and get an even smoother ride than a P2 without the performance package. Also not a big deal but if you’re talking truly top spec P2 then you’re also missing the leather interior option
Edit: Also, there’s a performance software update coming out this spring that bring the P2 from 408hp up to 472hp
Edit 2: There seems to be a fair bit of misinformation in this video, the ranges are both wrong by quite a bit, and the app for the bmw they were talking about is also available with the P2. The BMW base spec is going to be slower than the P2, but the i4 m50 performance is going to have a faster 0-60 than the P2 at the expense of range and costing more than a truly top spec P2 even before adding any packages or add ons. I read in the comments that they might be sponsored or have some connection to BMW, which makes it even more strange that they got info wrong even on the BMW.
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China.
China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model.
This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
Can you use the BMW’s iDrive to change the temperature, fan speed and so on?
Off course
There can be no doubting the BMW's abilities. But it's a BMW, and not everyone might want a BMW. The Polestar looks interesting, and has lots of Volvo influence in it's make-up. I'd take a close look at it if I were in the market for a car like this..... As mentioned in the video, the Polestar is less fussy to look at. That would be a factor for me, as BMW seem to have lost their edge these days as far as design goes. That BMW grille is enough to scare small dogs and younger children.... The practicality of both cars is good, which, for me, is where the Tesla Model 3 falls down. What's perhaps sometimes worth thinking about here is the fact that we're basically around 10 years in with mass production EV's. I look forward to seeing where we'll be in just a few more years.....
How is the model 3 not "practical?"
@@weightliftingdoktor For starters it doesn't have a driver display cluster and in lieu of that they couldn't even be bothered to put a heads up display.
@@guttagutta420 same setup in the Model Y (preferred it to a previous model 3) and really didn't find those feature, or lack thereof regarding an HUD, troublesome enough to call the car "impractical" as a whole. But I see how it can bother some, and you. I have a 7 yr old model S and do prefer the separate driver display so buy can keep my line of sight while driving but my wife doesnt seem to care. Maybe relevant to this, Our Acura MDX died in the garage from non-use over the winter.
@@weightliftingdoktor What do you mean it died? You left it sitting over the winter and went to crank it and nothing? Strange...🤔 In any case it's definitely different strokes for different folks. I recently purchased a model 3 and for what they're charging for them I'm terribly disappointed. They bill them as luxury but in my opinion they're anything but. Get past the acceleration and you're left with a very minimalist overpriced car. There are just too many features missing that my $30k Hyundai has stock. There's no dedicated blind spot detection (alerts on mirrors), no ventilated seats, no cluster or hud, shotty build quality, auto park is hidden behind a $12k software upgrade (something my old Buick could do for free).
And don't even get me started on the rip off that is fsd. There are cars out there that can keep itself centered in it's lane (including around curves on the highway), perform lane changes when you activate the blinker, slow (to a stop if necessary) and resume speed and maintain following distance all for free (my car is one of them)...I smell a class action lawsuit soon. At this point Tesla is just taking folks money for r&d and that's not cool. Fsd is nowhere near completion and yet they're still charging an arm and a leg for it as if it's a fully functional thing. Oh and my Hyundai has a digital key too so there's literally nothing my model 3 does better besides accelerate and my Hyundai was damn near half the price.
In no way would I really consider model 3 "luxury." It had quite a few shortcomings, maybe we had a bad build, I don't know. Traded it in for the Model Y. The MDX dying was my fault, I let the battery drain from non-use several months and thru the winter. I dont feel comfortable using FSD, I didn't bother to buy it. I do like the basic "autopilot" (misnomer) on my model s which is just basically like GM's super cruise good for highway driving.
I'm glad there are more options from EVs now. Hyundai, and KIA are putting out good cars for more reasonable prices indeed.
I wish you guys could quote additionally real-word range besides WLTP range. You can come up with the real-world range easily by looking at Bjorn Nyland's range test review of said car. No need to even test the range, your reviews can focus on everything else. Manufacturer's range claims are always wrong.
He's hoping for more vids with Tomi - great presenter!
As a 4 series Coupe drive I would go for the BMW but mainly because of the faster charging time and range
The Skoda enyaq coupe is what I would choose :)
In the US, the BMW is supposed to have 301 miles or range - must be a different test cycle than the U.K. with its 365 mile range.
I finally got used to THE BMWs hiddeous grill
My choice is the P2: Great car, best value.
The BMW seems like a valuable option, too, but was not available 3 years ago.
The model 3 was ruled out for missing practicality (no hatchback), bad lights and annoying blim-blim sounds.
A late comment: I choose the i4. By the way I just order one yesterday, same color as yours: the marvellous San Remo Green. 😁
I vote BMW. Better handling, smoother ride quality, and a real sunroof! Good comparison, however
Air conditioning FTW. I drove a convertible for a few years, and only put the top down a dozen times. Doesn't make sense in hot climates.
Does the Polestar have Android Auto?
I have owned a few BMW’s 2dr’s so i4 for me. Both these are a little bit of a compromise as they are based on ICE cars, but still very good.
I love both of these cars but the BMW edges it for me
You said BMW was more refined more about the drive yet you said the Polestar 2 was a funner faster drive so. P2 for me
Really interesting watch, I’ve test driven the Polestar 2 today, I hate the centre console, the performance was superb. The range worries me slightly. The other option that I am looking at is the i4, the M50 is a little out of my price range. I currently drive a 330e so the bmw is the ‘familiar’ car. I am torn, what I do know is that I 100% don’t want a Tesla. The polestar was different with some nice touches, it also drove me a little nuts with the centre console and banging my knee, will I/could I get over that? The rear seat space in bmw is worse, slightly bigger boot but with no front trunk…. Will welcome replies to help me choose!!
Polestar 3 was just announced, maybe that's something to hold off for
@@FreeRsGuides unfortunately I wasn’t in a position to wait and have ordered the i4
@@DavidThomas-bv5nz Fair enough :), congratulations! Great looking car I hope you enjoy it
@@FreeRsGuides So much bigger and will be almost twice the price.
Same. Test drove a polestar 2. I liked it. Didn't LOVE it. Worst thing is the hard plastic center console angled section that restricts your leg for no excusable reason. If I loved the styling I might overlook it, but it's a little too boxy and plain for me. I want an i4, but the wait is long and the chip shortage means no adaptive cruise control, which I can't tolerate.
Hi Nikki thanks for such an epic comparison test I just subscribe ur chennel today bcoz I have seen in so many other videos drag races etc etc I admire ur knowledge and enthusiasm for the cars I m hardcore bmw fanboy so I will go with bmw i4 may be in the future I will trade my G80 m3 comp which I just got few months back greetings from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦
How do you get 365 miles of range in UK when here in the US it says 301 miles? Strange.
Because BMW understates and over-delivers. Consumer Reports did a highway-only range test on various EVs and their i4 got to 318 miles. Doesn't sound all that impressive until you learn it was the dual-motor M50 that they used in the test.
Something to note is not every Volvo dealership would service Polestar cars & even Volvo centers are limited compared to BMW.
You can't really compare the two as like for like as the I4 is designed as an ICE car (4 series) and adapted for electric. It has a transmission tunnel, no front storage and a fuel filler cap holder?? and is very heavy.
Polestar 2 shares a platform with ICE volvos.
why do people hate on the grill, it's fantastic
What’s the name of the color of the polestar 2?
It's called "void". it's just a bog standard non-metallic black.
Polestar 2 please. Mine is due in two weeks.
P2 for me
ohhh this one will divide the crowd...I'm with the Polestar on this one, although the i4 is a great car too for BMW owners and lovers
I take the BMW i4, because I like the design and long range.
No its gay
For me Model 3 is still in a league above these two. Tesla supercharging is also still key for ease of charging and roadtrips in UK.
Just subscribed as your content is excellent and NOT part of the Tesla cult/fan club. Yeah, I think Tesla's doing a great job and I support them but DO NOT support constant mentioning of them and the oligarch Musk. Both the i4 and Polestar 2 are excellent cars but I'd take the BMW as I've owned 3x BMW 3-series' and love them but would ask BMW to drastically reduce that grill! I hope BMW goes ALL EV very soon.
I probably would have gotten the i4 had it been available last year when I needed to return my beautiful 440i GC . I had made a decision to go electric . I wasn’t going to get an M3 for a number of reasons . I have no regrets at all choosing my P*2 !
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China.
China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model.
This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
I do wish BMW would sort the grills out. So close...
As someone who had a Polestar 2 and had Polestar take it back amidst all the still ongoing problems: this isn't even a comparison. You get better range, better comfort, heck you get a better car all around...it might be more expensive on the list price, but at least in Germany you would get your normal discount on the BMW buying it from a car dealer vs. the non-negotiable online price of the P2. I mean just look at the sales numbers of the P2 to get a sense where this car is headed...
which is better?
P2 for me, BMW just seems more of the same looks wise. P2 feels like the next generation inside and out.
I just changed my 4 series diesel Gran Coupe for the Skoda Enyaq. I couldn't afford the BMW at more than £50k, but I would choose it over the Polestar
Yes but if you use the sat nav in the Polestar it has preconditioning so charging in winter is superior!
the polestar 2 looks so good
I actually like the BMW because of the grille ...
Bimmer every time. It costs more because you get more. However I'd take the Polestar and be perfectly happy if I couldn't afford the BMW.
But leasing deal on polestar gets you 250 pounds cashback and a free charger installed
New kid on the block for me. Wife comments after every drive in her Polestar 2.
All other things being equal, I’d pick the BMW because it looks better. Then I’d pop for the M50 version because there’s more in that package than just a faster 0-60 time.
No contest. If you appreciate a fine driver’s car there is only one choice. BMW.
Beaver I4.... :D I like it.
How come USA BMW is only 300 miles i4 and 270 miles i4 M50?????
'Murica has real mountains and elevation changes. Car's gotta climb the Rockies.
Britain is farmland surrounded by a ton of sea.
The idiotic looking kidney grills of the i4 alone makes it UNBUYABLE, such a shame because everything else is spot on
In dark colors you get away with it, saw one yesterday irl and it's fine. Dark maroon or black look bad@ss
Simple choice BMW, support western democratic jobs and economy that you belong to. The Polestar is Chinese, who have essentially declared war on the west and threatened many western countries. China (Geely) are in the process of moving Volvo to China as they slowly hollow out western industry and jobs. They cannot get traction with their own brands so they use western brands against us. This hollowing out will eventually hollow out every single sector as they move all industries in house to China.
China are literally an enemy, that may sound like hyperbole but it manifestly isn't. They are a communist/totalitarian regime. Partnership is not a part of their thinking process. It is the cover they use to slowly dismember western economies. They do not want partnership they want control and ownership. This is an will increasingly bleed in to political control and eventually erosion of western freedoms. China simply cannot allow freedom of thought or speech, it is not only antithetical but an existential threat to their regime. They cannot limit restrictions of freedom to their own country as this is a constant pressure on their regime. So they need to extinguish freedom in as many places as possible. All empires spread their model.
This will eventually be true for us. We are walking ourselves in to totalitarian control. If you think it seems too far fetched then you need to think deeper and harder. If you think this process will be benign, it will not be. They will slowly tighten their grip on democracy. Your government will be controlled by China, you will not be allowed to change your government and your government will impose every single decision handed down by China. You will not be able to protest or question this decision. You and your children will grow up without any freedom for the rest of your/their lives. As one example China force sterilises people, in the 80's Chinese themselves, now Uyghurs.
The Polestar is not top-speced as mentioned at the start..
and the i4 was. The price difference is actually quite big between the cars shown. Not the 6K base price difference.
I think if you are really worried about the money the Polestar, but if you can stretch it’s the BMW every day.
I really enjoy watching you guys work together on these videos, you both have different natural styles and it works really well together.
Have you driven either, BMW fanboy?
@@susand9296 both.
The peak charging power of the BMW is higher at 200Kw rather than 150Kw. But the average charging power over a 10%-80% cycle is the same. So is the charging time, unless you are using an Ionity charger, then you might save two minutes (EV-database). A better comparison would be the base i4 versus the Polestar long range single motor. Then you have to ask is a heat pump worth £9000? In the UK they don''t make much difference if you preheat the car on cold days.
"Frunk" is used here in the U.S., being a combination of Front + Trunk...
Being in England, it's referred to the rear storage as the "Boot"... just curious, shouldn't you be referring to the front storage as the "Froot"???
*frunk
@@ericedge2929 my bad... typo. Thanks!