Why they are just making other characters hate him ? It’s so annoying. Honestly I rather have high school Peter than this shit :edit damn did not think this was going to get so many likes appreciate it
You know what, screw it. We got Renew Your Vows which is love letter to Pete and MJ. If they want to keep Peter separate from MJ in 616, then have him end up with Black Cat
Plot twist, Paul’s last name is Wells Also, editorial LITERALLY bragged in the backend of these comics that the next few issues are gonna be “earth-shattering” and that Spidey fans will hate it. And they got off to that thinking it was “excitement”. I swear to god whoever let Zeb Wells cook is incompetent as hell. Who is paying for this trash??
Yo, imagine the Joker meeting Peter and giving him the "One Bad Day" speech, and Peter's just sitting there thinking "Just one bad day? That's all it took for you? Jeez, you must be really weak." Peter's idea of "One Bad Day" is "Tuesday".
@@lightspeed7312 it depends on the writer. But seriously, Pete has been through enough things to be resistant against psychopaths, and he’s strong enough to kick joker’s ass before he can try something funny. Joker is not equipped to deal with with a souped up Robin
The whole point of that line in the killing joke was to prove how wrong the joker was anyways. He put both Gordon and Batman through hell and neither of them broke.
Did she honestly believe he wouldn’t come back for her enough that she would just start a family with some random guy? Truly shows how much she actually loves him
@@yadevk8025 yeah and the problem is that it’s unrealistic as fuck, nobody suffers all the time, no matter how small there are moments of happiness and joy, it’s not all soul crushing misery porn,
@@kaibyl1 I think the Ultimate Marvel comics, where Spiderman get's shot, and Cap America The Asshole left the poor fucker to bleed to death, to do some other shit. Now, you gotta understand, Cap America in Ult. Marvel is real major asshole. I'm talking The Boys kind of asshole. And I think that's how Peter suffering porn got popular.
Funny thing most of the time, when he is a villain in the other comics, he gets to have a happy ending while our kindly hearted spiderman can't catch a break
There is a comic where he doesn't resist the temptation of keeping the symbiote and makes him more aggressive and malevolent and pretty much kills his entire rogue gallery
@@Phantom9587The thing is some writers seem to justify it based on fans reactions to peter beingnthe most relatable super hero. The every day man. That people can see themselves in. Thing is who is seeing this as relatable?
They should honesely just let Spider-Man turn evil at this point and have him become such a profound menace that someone has to time travel to prevent MJ and Peter from ever being sent to this alternate universe. Cause they really just keep fucking with this man for no reason.
@some guy named Trevor look once a cancer like that starts infesting a place with all his other shitty takes then everything afterwards until the disease is cleansed is traced back
@@arshiyamusazadeh7801 when she was with paul and peter was pushed to the portal they both found 2 children with no family or anyone they were alone so they adopted them
"Because I love you Peter, I am going to stay in this alternate dimension and fuck another guy and have kids with him!" That some damn good writing right there MARVEL!
Previews for ASM #25 show MJ dead set in the belief that Peter is coming back for her and refuses to be touched by or go with Paul. Then it shows the villain making two symbols in the ground as "chains for the scarlet woman" so it seems to be that the kids are conjured by magic.
@@XwoooahXSounds like the editors trying to fix a fuck up. Which has been going on for much of my life at this point. That is how long they have been doing it.
Yea. Bruce now have his Bat Family, his friend Superman is also a very reliable and understanding one. Meanwhile, Peter fought his comrade, ask his biggest enemy for help and end up losing his love just because she can’t wait when she was the one who sent him through the portal
@@Gvisibletop4449 If you think that you should look at Spidey's run for the past decade or 2 and compare it to Batman's,sure batman fights with odds really stacked against him but he has ppl to rely on,and the fact he's the batgoat so always has a plan to win + plot armor,Spidey just gets shit on by the writers day in,day out
@@4circle865 but both agree that Spidey has to suffer one way or another, meanwhile Batman out here jumping out from the moon and re-entering Earth's atmosphere without any help lol (ps I'm not shitting on batman,I'm just saying his luck's been better then Spidey's for a while now)
To be clear, while it's IMPLIED these are MJ and Pauls kids it hasn't been confirmed. Maybe MJ was already pregnant or they are Pauls. If they are MJ and Pauls, it means she had been trapped in this alt universe for YEARS not knowing if Peter would be able to make it back to her.
The fact Peter Parker hasn't become a villain yet after everything he is gone through is more amazing than any of the feats he is capable of in the comics.
With great power comes great responsibility. Mary Jane proving herself to be a waste of time isn't gonna stop him from carrying out his duty to the world that needs him, even if at times it doesn't want him.
So when MJ pushed Peter into the portal, it was basically her quick and easy way of saying, "It's not you Pete, it's me. I'm just not ready to commit."
Previews for ASM #25 show MJ dead set in the belief that Peter is coming back for her and refuses to be touched by or go with Paul. Then it shows the villain making two symbols in the ground as "chains for the scarlet woman" so it seems to be that the kids are conjured by magic.
Bruh just imagine your girl sending you away to an alternative world where you fight to come save her next.. in the mean time she been getting her cheeks dawged on by the dude who helped basically get rid of you. Gee.. Gee…😭
not to mention she gets constantly mad at him saying she doesn’t need him to save her all the time when in reality if he didn’t she’d be stuck in that mad max place
I damn near want to cry for Peter. He loved MJ so much that he fought and stole from his friends in the hero community just to get back to MJ in an alternate reality, only to find out that she lacked the strength to remain faithful and started a new family. Also, I think the guy that made the device to send one of them home wanted MJ to be left behind so that he could repopulate his Earth. 😅
Dudes runs around like a madman to save you even asks Osborne for help and not a single thank you just I moved on get lost. And from Peter perspective it's only been a couple days so imagen losing the love of your life doing everything you can to save her then when you do find her she's got a new man and kids and she's pushing you away like some ex she dumped years ago all this in a short amount of time. Honestly peters a bigger man than I am I would've said to hell with her and her family they can stay in that dimension.
@@CodeeXD That’s kinda different in the movie. Hank thought Janet was dead, and Janet thought that she basically lost her one and only way to get back to Hank and Hope. In here, they both have more than a couple reasons to believe that they have a chance to see each other again.
I think we can all agree that we need to have 2 things happen. 1 - Peter gets a happy ending. 2 - Peter gets tired of the bs and becomes a villain. And you know what? If he can team up with Deadpool to beat the sh*t out of the writers that would be awesome
It may show how old I am, but that was the original plan for the Clone Saga: have Peter retire as Spiderman and live happily ever after with MJ while Ben Reily assumes the mantle.
don't worry, he already had a happy ending in the renew your vows comics, he's married to mary jane and she has spider powers through a biosuit and they have a daughter named anne also known as spiderling. so just ignore all this future spiderman crap exists.
Ain't that some shit, your supposed girlfriend rejects your attempt to save her in order to save you and then when you come back to get her she has 2 kids with the guy that was helping you before you left...Damn MJ your love for Peter must be skin deep
Boy she don't love shit but herself cuz ain't no way she did the spider man like that wen he can literally have a bih wit superpowers that won't break in half if he went full throttle wit them in the bed but settled fo her hoe ass
at this point, Black Cat seems like a more viable love interest for Peter than either MJ or Gwen Stacy ever were. At least he knows what he gets with Felicia Hardy
If my GF was a superhero and I sent her away, I'd have stayed faithful until the day I died. Hell, I woulda done what Leela did in Futurama and left some form of timeless message for her in case she was too late. I certainly would have been elated if she returned to save me after years.
Normally (which is rare) MJ would never do this, if you've read the older comics she was there for Pete after Gwen's death and supported him as much as she could. And it's Sad to see the writers breaking character to write these shnite stories with self inserts.
My favorite part about this comic was Captain America. He stopped him And was trying too talk with him, because obviously the people of the world think Spider-Man had something too do with the Crater and because people were worried Spidey had gone crazy. Cap shows up and tells Spidey that he believes him 100% but they need too make sure Peter is telling the truth. And obviously Peter is trying too pull MJ back, so he’s rushing. And while cap is trying too talk Spidey jabs him in the nose, ya know what he does? He doesn’t even swing back, he just starts explaining that he understands he’s upset, but what he’s doing Isn’t him. Then Spidey slams his shield into his face and leaves.
@@trvpmusic2569to be fair, of it were gwen, mary jane, or black cat. It's blac cat, the girl's a keeper for peter, but well we rarely see comic versions of them together
As well as getting back Venom symbiote, bonding with it forever and getting black cat as his wife will be the ultimate revenge he will have against MJ. MJ will have nightmares day and night when she sees all of that.
nah i would of straight up slapped her for the hell i went through and left them shes literally the one who pushed him through the portal he insisted he would stay and she pushes him then has the nerve to cheat and say i moved on
Yike, that pair even worsted for peter due to his bad luck, and black cat has strange power that will bring nasty bad luck to anyone that get close to her, pretty sure peter life becomes even worsted if he pair with black cat
I thought the run started out strong with the Tombstone stuff, and I actually think the idea of MJ being stuck in an alternate reality and moving on from Peter is interesting. Plus I like him and the Black Cat getting together. What I don't like is all this magic Spider Totem God mumbo jumbo and the Rabin villain. That's where they lose me.
I really don't want to know what happened to Paul and MJ, I don't even want to imagine it. Honestly, this has got to be some kind of practical joke, why do Marvel writers just love doing this to Peter? They put him into the stupidest scenarios possible, then they spend the next few years trying to undo it, only for them to do it all over again.
The person you love throws you through a portal and has decided to hook up with a random guy and risk having kids in a hostile enviorment. And she never thought that with all the super geniuses tech and peters mind he wouldn't comeback for you and he's done it before already. Bro the "Are you for fucking real?" Enegry would be off the charts i haven't felt this kind of why though since erased
Previews for ASM #25 show MJ dead set in the belief that Peter is coming back for her and refuses to be touched by or go with Paul. Then it shows the villain making two symbols in the ground as "chains for the scarlet woman" so it seems to be that the kids are conjured by magic.
do not be fooled, Peter would get the same shit cake thrown at his face regardless of who he ends tying the knot with. they really don't want him to settle down and have a happy family
@@azorat1976 If I wasn't forever a Peter and MJ stan, Felicia would definitely be my pick for him, although most of the time she ends throwing him under the bus because of her stealing and stuff. but who knows? maybe a long term relationship would be the thing to change her heart on that for good
@@sparking023 I have an alternative, bring Gwen back. I don’t know, in a universe where Magic, Science, God, and everything is real. I’m sure bringing a Gwen back is simple. Know what, just bring a version of Spider Gwen that is older and move on in life more like Peter. Bring them together, so my man will finally be happy.
@@gustavopaubrasil1349 I really liked both the concepts of Grey Goblin and American Son. Gabriel Stacy should become a standard character and make up where Harry fails
Previews for ASM #25 show MJ dead set in the belief that Peter is coming back for her and refuses to be touched by or go with Paul. Then it shows the villain making two symbols in the ground as "chains for the scarlet woman" so it seems to be that the kids are conjured by magic.
I can't justify MJ being Peter's best love interest anymore. She actually blamed him for coming back. Peter should just tell everyone to f themselves at this point and get with Black Cat. I get Felecia is shady at times, but she's NEVER done peter wrong like this. For once, Peter should forsake responsibility and be selfish for once. He deserves it
It is so foul what they do to Peter. Like holy shit bro! I just want a story like this, but instead of being his usual moral self, Peter abandons MJ and whoever hurt him whenever they needed him the most, and lets them suffer a cruel fate or die. I just want one comic where Peter comes out on top after getting completely fucked over by the decision of someone less
Alright imagine if he got his venom suit back but that venom was the same venom eddie had and after he merges with peter he just says "Holy fuck bro you went through quite some shit"
@@A_Hylian_Not_An_Elf Eeh, make it two. I remember reading a, uh, let's just call it an off brand comic where Peter has kids with MJ and Black Cat, and they all live together. Surprisenly wholesome, too!
Peter has been suffering since he was created by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko. Honestly it’s a tradition at this point. The MCU made Peter’s life waaaay too easy until No Way Home.
@@treek10k not talking about uncle Ben. I’m talking about how the vast majority of Spider-Man comics have Peter suffering way more than any other comic character. He literally calls it “the Parker luck”. Don’t know why people are pretending this is a recent phenomenon.
They did him dirty in soooooo many levels! MJ not only moved on she had two kids knowing Peter and how devoted he is to his loved ones and after she learns all that he went thru she kicks him out of her life without even trying to be a good friend atleast. Spider-Man deserves better.
I love how the Spider Totem stuff is back my first comic bought was Coming Home where they introduced the idea and ever since then I have loved hearing more and more about it and how it connects with characters like Ezekiel or Silk.
@@stafy3 she really is great and I don't know if you know this but scientifically spiders webs is stronger than steel so in theory her original costume probably has the best protection from bullets since it's bulletproof and stronger than steel
@@mahiyatsafiyullah7103 Karn as in the Inheritors, but when was the last time we saw Kaine? Marvels been using him and Ben Reilly pretty interchangeably lately.
She was married to him for 20 years IRL. The writers just hate the marriage and are looking for any reason so it doesn't happen again. Neither Peter or MJ are at fault. The writers are for not giving people wgat they want.
Let’s not forget that he has already went through this same thing with Gwen Stacy, finding out after she died that she had two kids (boy & girl) with Norman Osborn. If they are going to mess him over with MJ they could at least come up with an original way to do it like her having triplets or only one child, but noooo they have to basically rehash an old story instead.
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Writers have become so desperate to make Peter suffer that they are literally breaking characters.
Right? Is it some fucked up joke at Marvel comics that they need to make Peter suffer each year or what?
Why they are just making other characters hate him ? It’s so annoying. Honestly I rather have high school Peter than this shit :edit damn did not think this was going to get so many likes appreciate it
He's a straight white male. They won't let him be happy.
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You know what, screw it. We got Renew Your Vows which is love letter to Pete and MJ. If they want to keep Peter separate from MJ in 616, then have him end up with Black Cat
The Paul guy was definitely a self-insert for one of the writers
No doubt. It's so obvious, too.
Absolutely
Plot twist, Paul’s last name is Wells
Also, editorial LITERALLY bragged in the backend of these comics that the next few issues are gonna be “earth-shattering” and that Spidey fans will hate it. And they got off to that thinking it was “excitement”. I swear to god whoever let Zeb Wells cook is incompetent as hell. Who is paying for this trash??
The character looks like it.
It has to be a self insert of someone that wanted to insert himself in MJ...
Yo, imagine the Joker meeting Peter and giving him the "One Bad Day" speech, and Peter's just sitting there thinking "Just one bad day? That's all it took for you? Jeez, you must be really weak." Peter's idea of "One Bad Day" is "Tuesday".
And DC fanbois say that Joker can break Peter with ease
@@MaidenlessScrub For a good reason. Joker will do anything to break a person. In crossover event, Peter almost killed him but had to stop himself.
@@lightspeed7312 it depends on the writer. But seriously, Pete has been through enough things to be resistant against psychopaths, and he’s strong enough to kick joker’s ass before he can try something funny. Joker is not equipped to deal with with a souped up Robin
The whole point of that line in the killing joke was to prove how wrong the joker was anyways. He put both Gordon and Batman through hell and neither of them broke.
@@thedorkknight5772 Very good point!
At this point, Peter can become a villain, and I'd support him all the way.
Damn right, so much bullshit yet still, a person can only take so much
Villain origin story for the dark spider
He has every reason to be one
“Then something just snapped, something inside of me.”
Peter would mostlikely become a vigilante instead or something
She really cheated on him with dollar store Gordon Freeman
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nah he a cyborg dad 2.0
Thought he was borat cousin
She pick him when he saw how long his crowbar was
Just remember If your partner is in another dimension then it's not cheating 😉. Fair game .
Did she honestly believe he wouldn’t come back for her enough that she would just start a family with some random guy? Truly shows how much she actually loves him
😊
It's fiction and they butcher it.
Confuseding
That’s woman for you
That’s not mj that’s shit writing
Writers so dead set on fucking over Peter, they cuck him with their self inserts 💀
To be Peter is to suffer. It's getting way out of hand.
They have a vendetta against the poor lad
@@dariuscodreanu5687 because he's a straight white male
@@yadevk8025 yeah and the problem is that it’s unrealistic as fuck, nobody suffers all the time, no matter how small there are moments of happiness and joy, it’s not all soul crushing misery porn,
@@kaibyl1 I think the Ultimate Marvel comics, where Spiderman get's shot, and Cap America The Asshole left the poor fucker to bleed to death, to do some other shit.
Now, you gotta understand, Cap America in Ult. Marvel is real major asshole. I'm talking The Boys kind of asshole.
And I think that's how Peter suffering porn got popular.
I want a story where he literally just snaps and says "Fuck it" and have a happy ending
Funny thing most of the time, when he is a villain in the other comics, he gets to have a happy ending while our kindly hearted spiderman can't catch a break
only two have gotten that, ultimate spidey and the one who faked his death in that mutant dimension
@@sadboi9477 damn, that's tough
There is a comic where he doesn't resist the temptation of keeping the symbiote and makes him more aggressive and malevolent and pretty much kills his entire rogue gallery
oh yeah thats basicly the universe where Spidey becomes punisher, even uncle Ben gets to be alive, Peter marries and its happy ending
If Mary Jane blames Peter for leaving her there alone she will become unredemable.
Yep
Facts.
Not even her it’ll be the writers
@@Bowlo_ FACTS
Hate the writers not the character 🤷♂️
Bro wtf is up with torturing Peter, he's like the most loveable hero
It been like that since the death of Gwen stacy
@@Phantom9587 but they went overboard with this one grabage writing
@lumpystilskin5367 it not the first-time they done some like this
@@Phantom9587The thing is some writers seem to justify it based on fans reactions to peter beingnthe most relatable super hero. The every day man. That people can see themselves in. Thing is who is seeing this as relatable?
@@Tahu33446 They hate White men, perfectly relatable.
They should honesely just let Spider-Man turn evil at this point and have him become such a profound menace that someone has to time travel to prevent MJ and Peter from ever being sent to this alternate universe. Cause they really just keep fucking with this man for no reason.
Them going to the reality exposed her, they need to be stopped from meeting in the first place
@v3nxmyt true. Someone go back and save Gwen at this point I won't even be upset
Either this or just let spiderman have it with black cat in peace.
@@v3nxmytnah Peter and Mj are soulmates blame the writers
@@KingRogue the writers keep shitting on them and ruining her character
The only person more petty than Reverse Flash is the writer of Spider-Man
“It was me Peter all along.”This needs to be a trending meme
@@justsomeguyfrom-redacted- The beginning of a DC and marvel crossover!
@@justsomeguyfrom-redacted- even crazier that this is apparently true from what I’ve heard (Paul is a self insert)
@@fegreninja7197people need to make r34 of him with a micropenis and tag the author
@@fegreninja7197 bruh's really messing too much with my man, he better kill him by the end of the story.
“Paul” is literally a self insert for an editor
If I didnt know better I'd swear it was Joe Quesada or as I call him Joe Quesadilla
@@anonymous10099 I'm all for shitting on the man, but joe had nothing to do with this. The man left Marvel almost a year ago.
@some guy named Trevor look once a cancer like that starts infesting a place with all his other shitty takes then everything afterwards until the disease is cleansed is traced back
Is it Nick Lowe? Because that is fucking Lowe.
hey!
I swear. If Mary Jane have the audacity to say something like "I felt lonely after you were gone" or some sht. The writers just be doing anything
those arent her biological kids
@@infernobat8325Still is bs, but i guess it's better this way, no more of her dumb shit.
@@infernobat8325 could you please tell more ? I feel like you read it .
Pplease spoil a little man
@@arshiyamusazadeh7801 when she was with paul and peter was pushed to the portal they both found 2 children with no family or anyone they were alone so they adopted them
@@infernobat8325 thanks for answering man
"Because I love you Peter, I am going to stay in this alternate dimension and fuck another guy and have kids with him!" That some damn good writing right there MARVEL!
Previews for ASM #25 show MJ dead set in the belief that Peter is coming back for her and refuses to be touched by or go with Paul. Then it shows the villain making two symbols in the ground as "chains for the scarlet woman" so it seems to be that the kids are conjured by magic.
@@XwoooahX damage control
@@johnedelmann6711 yup thats the editors trying to fix a fuck up
@@XwoooahXSounds like the editors trying to fix a fuck up. Which has been going on for much of my life at this point. That is how long they have been doing it.
Nah it just sounds like MJ is an idiot you know how many girls IRL who says they “love” someone yet continues smashing another person be fr man
Bros out here fighting avengers while MJ getting raw dogged by Gordon Freeman
she aint for the streets, she for the multiverse
Bootleg Gordon
@@kurimiko damn man that one was really funny
@@kurimiko for the spiderverse
@@setyx.nah the Spider Society finna chase her out. She for the null dimension 💀
3 most impossible things:
1. Batman to smile
2. Daredevil to see
3. Spider-Man to be happy
Batman who laughs in the corner:
Peter got Sneeko'ed by the writter's self insert
Fr 😭
That was also my first impression when I saw the guy she ended up with.
sneekoed = cucked
Haha dam
Bruce Wayne’s life seems so much more enjoyable than Peters lol and that’s saying something
Yea. Bruce now have his Bat Family, his friend Superman is also a very reliable and understanding one. Meanwhile, Peter fought his comrade, ask his biggest enemy for help and end up losing his love just because she can’t wait when she was the one who sent him through the portal
Not always and not so much
@@Gvisibletop4449 If you think that you should look at Spidey's run for the past decade or 2 and compare it to Batman's,sure batman fights with odds really stacked against him but he has ppl to rely on,and the fact he's the batgoat so always has a plan to win + plot armor,Spidey just gets shit on by the writers day in,day out
Bruce has a story with some structure, Spider-Man either has the greatest writers or the most garbage writers in existence.
@@4circle865 but both agree that Spidey has to suffer one way or another, meanwhile Batman out here jumping out from the moon and re-entering Earth's atmosphere without any help lol (ps I'm not shitting on batman,I'm just saying his luck's been better then Spidey's for a while now)
Peter slamming cap with his own shield was cold af
So basically Peter did nothing wrong
He stole stuff and attacked other heros so theft assault but he did it to save mj so he did something wrong to save lives
Yep
Bro why does writer have to make them caveman face
As always 😂
The guy never did anything wrong. It's just that the writers are just used to putting tragedy in his life.
Ignore the fact that the writer made a self insert character that is with MJ
Bro no fucking way 💀🤣
Knew he couldn't get a bitch irl so he had to self insert how pathetic you gotta be 😂😂
Lol yeah who the f is paul
I knew something was off
She for the street don't care how much time has passed since she knows what spider is capable of
To be clear, while it's IMPLIED these are MJ and Pauls kids it hasn't been confirmed. Maybe MJ was already pregnant or they are Pauls. If they are MJ and Pauls, it means she had been trapped in this alt universe for YEARS not knowing if Peter would be able to make it back to her.
@@FloatingCityComics for the streets
@@FloatingCityComicsstill for the streets
@FloatingCityComics bro she was the one who forced him back
She has to suffer the consequences
@@FloatingCityComics But still I prefer Gwen over MJ any day
The fact Peter Parker hasn't become a villain yet after everything he is gone through is more amazing than any of the feats he is capable of in the comics.
With great power comes great responsibility. Mary Jane proving herself to be a waste of time isn't gonna stop him from carrying out his duty to the world that needs him, even if at times it doesn't want him.
Damn she's not even for the streets she's for the multiverse
The multiverse ain't going to want her.
@@TheGamingChefKen ikr
AceVane right?
She’s for the outer space time continuum
@@zame-osomething5096 not even the outer space time continuum wants her
Marvel Writers on their way to completely destroy Peters life for the 80th time:
I don't know about this
That number is too low
more like the 1 billionth time cause think about the other alternate peter bro, so much misery
My prayers are being answered hopefully he starts flopping faster until he falls off
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she gave up on him after a few "years" 💀💀💀
So when MJ pushed Peter into the portal, it was basically her quick and easy way of saying, "It's not you Pete, it's me. I'm just not ready to commit."
She says she ain't ready to commit, only to have kids with the writer's self-insert.
MJ's a damn hypocrite!
Yep, she knew what she was doing
@@joeytruett5250 she wanted some big black glasses
Previews for ASM #25 show MJ dead set in the belief that Peter is coming back for her and refuses to be touched by or go with Paul. Then it shows the villain making two symbols in the ground as "chains for the scarlet woman" so it seems to be that the kids are conjured by magic.
@@XwoooahX she literally pushed him into the portal, she's a wh*ore and wanted to cheat
Bruh just imagine your girl sending you away to an alternative world where you fight to come save her next.. in the mean time she been getting her cheeks dawged on by the dude who helped basically get rid of you. Gee.. Gee…😭
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not to mention she gets constantly mad at him saying she doesn’t need him to save her all the time when in reality if he didn’t she’d be stuck in that mad max place
She cucked him and he didn’t even realize even after he came back
I damn near want to cry for Peter. He loved MJ so much that he fought and stole from his friends in the hero community just to get back to MJ in an alternate reality, only to find out that she lacked the strength to remain faithful and started a new family. Also, I think the guy that made the device to send one of them home wanted MJ to be left behind so that he could repopulate his Earth. 😅
I don’t care what anyone says. MJ is stupid. How can you justify being mad at him for *COMING BACK FOR YOU* ?!?
Dudes runs around like a madman to save you even asks Osborne for help and not a single thank you just I moved on get lost. And from Peter perspective it's only been a couple days so imagen losing the love of your life doing everything you can to save her then when you do find her she's got a new man and kids and she's pushing you away like some ex she dumped years ago all this in a short amount of time. Honestly peters a bigger man than I am I would've said to hell with her and her family they can stay in that dimension.
@@ToxicVex267 Gwen and Felicia were better as well because they could help Peter while mj just sits in the back
Also SHE’S the one who sent him into the portal
@@revancousland2524 I think she did it on purpose cuz she already had a thing for dude cuz she’s a dam thot
@@revancousland2524 ESPECIALLY THE WAY SHE ACTING
She basically cheated on him while he was going through hell to get back to her. Real nice, Marvel...😑
That's just a high percentage of women in general.
What she was just being empowered. Like they said in ant man 3 she had needs, screw your silly emotions and commitment
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That’s kinda different in the movie. Hank thought Janet was dead, and Janet thought that she basically lost her one and only way to get back to Hank and Hope. In here, they both have more than a couple reasons to believe that they have a chance to see each other again.
@GiantSlug Yep, high percentage of men too
Everyone is shit
But she been in that place for long time
I think we can all agree that we need to have 2 things happen. 1 - Peter gets a happy ending. 2 - Peter gets tired of the bs and becomes a villain. And you know what? If he can team up with Deadpool to beat the sh*t out of the writers that would be awesome
and gwen pool too that will be funny comic
Bro spider-man breaking the 4 wall and teams up with deadpool to beat the shit out of them cuz of all the stuff they made Peter go
hell yes i need to see peter slam the writers well except for stan lee hes the legend
You know what? I think spiderman needs to grab some cash, move far far away from New York, adopt some kids, and have his OWN DAMN HAPPY ENDING
Why adopt when he bang Black Cat.
It may show how old I am, but that was the original plan for the Clone Saga: have Peter retire as Spiderman and live happily ever after with MJ while Ben Reily assumes the mantle.
I just want him to go marry Silver Sable and become the king of Symkaria (I don’t think I spelled that right.)
don't worry, he already had a happy ending in the renew your vows comics, he's married to mary jane and she has spider powers through a biosuit and they have a daughter named anne also known as spiderling. so just ignore all this future spiderman crap exists.
He's almost becoming Marvel's Superboy-Prime. Thankfully and hopefully forever, does Superboy-Prime keep his happy ending and live his life in peace.
They straight up make Mary Jane have fucking Stockholm syndrome and somehow that was ok
Writers trying not ruin peter’s life
Difficulty: IMPOSSIBLE EDITION
If i had a nickel for everytime peter got cucked in a storyline, Jeff bozo would be asking me for handouts
BOZO?
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Paul is a self insert for an editor.
Nah Peter is, we all know the editor watches his wife get railed raw 😂
Stan lee would have a heart attack if he could see how they have just ruined the Spider-Man comics
Ain't that some shit, your supposed girlfriend rejects your attempt to save her in order to save you and then when you come back to get her she has 2 kids with the guy that was helping you before you left...Damn MJ your love for Peter must be skin deep
Women in real life are the same. Youre nothing but a dickbag to most of them.
Not only that but he's the one that insisted you be the one sent back. Man's was planning to cuck you the whole time
shes for the streets
Boy she don't love shit but herself cuz ain't no way she did the spider man like that wen he can literally have a bih wit superpowers that won't break in half if he went full throttle wit them in the bed but settled fo her hoe ass
Imagine being worse than raimi mj, really horrible
I’m calling it, Paul MJ new husband is Mephisto disguise lol 😂
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worse for sure is one of the writers
I'm sure it's a self insert
That’s your answer to everything.
@@mattphillips3537 'one more day' saga arc
Wasn't Mephisto the reason Peter lost his marriage with MJ?
at this point, Black Cat seems like a more viable love interest for Peter than either MJ or Gwen Stacy ever were. At least he knows what he gets with Felicia Hardy
This chat has given me hope for the Spider-Man fandom. Shit like this makes my heart bleed for Peter.
I’d hope your heart is already bleeding.
If my GF was a superhero and I sent her away, I'd have stayed faithful until the day I died. Hell, I woulda done what Leela did in Futurama and left some form of timeless message for her in case she was too late.
I certainly would have been elated if she returned to save me after years.
or at least I wouldn't have kids with some random guy God Peter deserve better
😂😂I love how people say stuff like this, bro no u wouldn’t
@@moharshad6882 and you would know that how?
@@moharshad6882Maybe that's a Comment on what you think and feel?
Now would you do what that guy would do?
Normally (which is rare) MJ would never do this, if you've read the older comics she was there for Pete after Gwen's death and supported him as much as she could. And it's Sad to see the writers breaking character to write these shnite stories with self inserts.
My favorite part about this comic was Captain America. He stopped him
And was trying too talk with him, because obviously the people of the world think Spider-Man had something too do with the Crater and because people were worried Spidey had gone crazy.
Cap shows up and tells Spidey that he believes him 100% but they need too make sure Peter is telling the truth. And obviously Peter is trying too pull MJ back, so he’s rushing. And while cap is trying too talk Spidey jabs him in the nose, ya know what he does?
He doesn’t even swing back, he just starts explaining that he understands he’s upset, but what he’s doing Isn’t him.
Then Spidey slams his shield into his face and leaves.
At this point, the writters are just making self inserts that make peter's life hell
This is good maybe he'll get with black cat who's 1000 times better than MJ
@@trvpmusic2569to be fair, of it were gwen, mary jane, or black cat. It's blac cat, the girl's a keeper for peter, but well we rarely see comic versions of them together
In this time, I only trust Zdarsky and Spencer to write Spider-Man
Not even Spencer. Give me Zdarsky everything! Or give it to Al Ewing
@@samfisher6606 Spencer retconned Sins Past yk
@@samfisher6606 Spencer tried to undo OMD but Marvel execs vetoed him.
Damn we've come a long way when we're ASKING for Chip Zdarksy
@@spongebobsucks12 He wrote Spider-man: Life Story which is better story than years of current Spider-Man comics
The Superior Parker Story starts now. I'd rebuild Parker Industries & just call it a day lol
As well as getting back Venom symbiote, bonding with it forever and getting black cat as his wife will be the ultimate revenge he will have against MJ. MJ will have nightmares day and night when she sees all of that.
Marvel writers trying to not make peter's life miserable (level: IMPOSSIBLE)
It was her choice to stay and she knew Peter would eventually come back for her
and she was damn thristy for the guy's d that she damn cheated-_-
nah i would of straight up slapped her for the hell i went through and left them shes literally the one who pushed him through the portal he insisted he would stay and she pushes him then has the nerve to cheat and say i moved on
@@-Marry tbh valid answe
@@-Marry true. MJ fucked up. And Peter should have never returned, now Peter will suffer another trauma because of MJ stupidity
@@-Marry same would have straight up boomed them and became spider goblin
We’re lucky Peter a has pure heart otherwise he would be a villain by now
At this point I'm all for black cat and spider man as a main couple now.
I always shipped them together, they would make an interesting couple for sure.
Yike, that pair even worsted for peter due to his bad luck, and black cat has strange power that will bring nasty bad luck to anyone that get close to her, pretty sure peter life becomes even worsted if he pair with black cat
@@Phantom9587 worse than him being with MJ?
@@Yassin5643 close, with black cat bring bad luck and peter nonexistent luck, she end up destroying him what MJ has done to him
I would like to see a Spider-Man and Black Cat movie come out that's something we haven't seen yet
You know peter has so much rizz when the writters literally have to warp reality to keep them apart
HIS RIZZ IS SO POWERFUL THE WRITERS HAD TO KEEP THEM IN DIFERRENT UNIVERSES TO CONTAIN HIS RIZZ.
It's bad when a version of Spiderman villain is helping him more than his own friends
Look how they NTR'd my boy.
Nothing new. Just insult again on this amazing character.
@@vencislavgynev8282 yea the amount of times he’s been screwed over is unbelievable to the point that it’s annoying
Bro for some reason I can't stand NTR or cheating in general bullshit, whoever enjoys that shit is a absolute weirdo...
At this point the only way to salvage this story is if all of these event culminate to him saying f*ck it and getting his venom suit back.
Spider-Man: my life was perfect, and I’m never getting it back!
This current run actually sucks everything is so out of character for Peter
I thought the run started out strong with the Tombstone stuff, and I actually think the idea of MJ being stuck in an alternate reality and moving on from Peter is interesting. Plus I like him and the Black Cat getting together.
What I don't like is all this magic Spider Totem God mumbo jumbo and the Rabin villain. That's where they lose me.
@@FloatingCityComicsMJ feels so out of character. Hell, everyone feels so out of character.
Peter isnt even that out of character lmao
@@FloatingCityComics you think that making mary jane a horrible person is interesting ??
@@FloatingCityComics yes, Peter can't break titanium handcuffs but can lift a building, makes perfect sense
The fact that MJ thought Peter would just never come back for her is dumbest justification for breaking his heart I’ve ever heard
i'm pretty sure she knew he would come back, she just didn't care at all and that's just stupid.
@@itmare7353 don’t blame this on MJ, blame this on Zeb fucking Wells
The children were adopted and then turned out to be not even real.
I now understand why the literal G O D of the Marvel multiverse basically had to show up and tell this man that it would be ok.
he should come to meet him more time
I really don't want to know what happened to Paul and MJ, I don't even want to imagine it. Honestly, this has got to be some kind of practical joke, why do Marvel writers just love doing this to Peter? They put him into the stupidest scenarios possible, then they spend the next few years trying to undo it, only for them to do it all over again.
They cant keep getting away with it!
If Peter just decides to tear all of them limb from limb in that moment, GOW style, I would 100% back his decision.
I will never understand why writers seem to hate Peter so much.
Easy, he’s Stan Lees favourite.
My boi cannot catch a break
Edit: Thank you for the likes
@@Question_Unknownhis not he's dude
It's not a marvel comic if spiderman doesn't somehow suffer
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MJ is for the streets
After being mj.... I swear he probably have all kinds of STDs for sure.....
SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A HAPPY ENDING
my boy will never see it
The person you love throws you through a portal and has decided to hook up with a random guy and risk having kids in a hostile enviorment. And she never thought that with all the super geniuses tech and peters mind he wouldn't comeback for you and he's done it before already. Bro the "Are you for fucking real?" Enegry would be off the charts i haven't felt this kind of why though since erased
Its these shitty writers the guy she has kids with is named wells same as the writer.
Ngl I want a universe where peter actually gives up on Mary Jane and he had stop thirsting over him and had a better life
Previews for ASM #25 show MJ dead set in the belief that Peter is coming back for her and refuses to be touched by or go with Paul. Then it shows the villain making two symbols in the ground as "chains for the scarlet woman" so it seems to be that the kids are conjured by magic.
do not be fooled, Peter would get the same shit cake thrown at his face regardless of who he ends tying the knot with. they really don't want him to settle down and have a happy family
@@sparking023 well actually I think his best bet would have to be black cat tbh but the writers hates his guts....
@@azorat1976 If I wasn't forever a Peter and MJ stan, Felicia would definitely be my pick for him, although most of the time she ends throwing him under the bus because of her stealing and stuff. but who knows? maybe a long term relationship would be the thing to change her heart on that for good
@@sparking023 I have an alternative, bring Gwen back. I don’t know, in a universe where Magic, Science, God, and everything is real. I’m sure bringing a Gwen back is simple. Know what, just bring a version of Spider Gwen that is older and move on in life more like Peter. Bring them together, so my man will finally be happy.
Mary Jane died and then
Peter Parker picked a perfect pair of
pickled peppers .
im surprised that Peter hasnt gone evil yet
No I'm more surprised he hasn't committed suicide yet, I know it's a terrible thing to say but feels like life is trying to tell him "Jump"😔
Gwen was the true one for Peter, MJ was the redhead fling he needed to start his villain arc
Bro we need black suit spidey😭
Didn't Gwen sleep with Normen? Black is the true one in my opinion
@@Prince_of_DespairActually this never happened. Sarah and Gabriel were clones made by Harry (Comic Book- Spider man (2018) 73 and 74)
@@gustavopaubrasil1349 oh thank god
@@gustavopaubrasil1349 I really liked both the concepts of Grey Goblin and American Son. Gabriel Stacy should become a standard character and make up where Harry fails
Symbiote said, "Ready to redeem yourself Peter"
If I was Peter, I would just say "ok. You can stay here with your family. I'mma go see what Black Cat or Gwen is doing" and just leave
Previews for ASM #25 show MJ dead set in the belief that Peter is coming back for her and refuses to be touched by or go with Paul. Then it shows the villain making two symbols in the ground as "chains for the scarlet woman" so it seems to be that the kids are conjured by magic.
Isn’t Gwen dead dead?
@@fegreninja7197 there's stilll bones.
Black cat>MJ
I can't justify MJ being Peter's best love interest anymore. She actually blamed him for coming back. Peter should just tell everyone to f themselves at this point and get with Black Cat. I get Felecia is shady at times, but she's NEVER done peter wrong like this. For once, Peter should forsake responsibility and be selfish for once. He deserves it
isn't Black Cat bisexual these days? I swear every time i see a sexualized female character she turns out to be Bi. Why's this a thing?
It all depends on which writer or which editors desperately want us to hate which love interest.
@@dx5741 a big part of that is Chris Clermont.
@@mattphillips3537 who are you referring to? Mystique?
You know this MJ is just so out of character right? It’s the author’s fault. He literally wants everyone to hate MJ
That headshot with the revolver was sick 🔥🫡
It is so foul what they do to Peter. Like holy shit bro! I just want a story like this, but instead of being his usual moral self, Peter abandons MJ and whoever hurt him whenever they needed him the most, and lets them suffer a cruel fate or die. I just want one comic where Peter comes out on top after getting completely fucked over by the decision of someone less
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@master_guy8520 Yeah but it's very cathartic, also cheating on peter isn't very mj.
@Master_guy Just give him the black suit and put all the blame on her
Hell Yeah!!
Nah, that ain't Paul, that's Gordon Freeman.
That's what I'm saying
Then it valid as the Gman is the sigmaest character
Expect disappointment and you’ll never be disappointed
Alright imagine if he got his venom suit back but that venom was the same venom eddie had and after he merges with peter he just says "Holy fuck bro you went through quite some shit"
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Let there be venom
Venom:“We need to get you a real women”
@@bunnyblixt803 BRUH
HOW DID YOU JUST GET AN IDEA OF THA ALSO IM A TH-camR
I swear that Paul guy was a self insert character
Someone really wanted to insert himself in MJ...
One of the editors shares an uncommon last name with Paul
That guy is just Gordon freeman, change my mind.
Okay, who wants to infiltrate Marve as a writer, and make everything go back to the status quo?
Me I’m in
I would straight up give Peter a three to five women harem just to make up for all the bullshit he’s put up with.
@@A_Hylian_Not_An_Elf Eeh, make it two. I remember reading a, uh, let's just call it an off brand comic where Peter has kids with MJ and Black Cat, and they all live together. Surprisenly wholesome, too!
@@cooltrainervaultboy-39 You mean the one where he was in a bar with Johnny?
@@A_Hylian_Not_An_Elf Ah, a man of academia I see.
They make Spider Man suffer because they hate Stan Lee. For real, L Marvel for making Spider Man suffer
Peter has been suffering since he was created by Stan Lee and Steve Ditko. Honestly it’s a tradition at this point. The MCU made Peter’s life waaaay too easy until No Way Home.
@@xthelegend89 not really. Yeah the death of uncle ben was bad, but that wasn't as bad as this crap that's been going on for years now.
@@treek10k not talking about uncle Ben. I’m talking about how the vast majority of Spider-Man comics have Peter suffering way more than any other comic character. He literally calls it “the Parker luck”. Don’t know why people are pretending this is a recent phenomenon.
Now i remember the line goblin said to peter :- "one thing the people love more than seeing a hero succeed , is to see him suffer to die trying 😢
They did him dirty in soooooo many levels! MJ not only moved on she had two kids knowing Peter and how devoted he is to his loved ones and after she learns all that he went thru she kicks him out of her life without even trying to be a good friend atleast. Spider-Man deserves better.
Better writers at least.
So basically Paul cucked Peter. Yep I'd be pissed too.
I'm really hoping this will turn out to be one of the spider-man stories where he turns evil an snaps Paul in half.
@@tomfoolery7797Now that would be a twist wouldn't it? Kind of like a pretzel, which is what Paul will resemble if that is what actually happens.
Pissed is an understatement I would've personally crippled Paul and tell mj she can just fuck off
Peter is so sad for what happened.
Black Cat comes: I sense that the place is vacant for me now that the barrier is gone, right? 😉
I love how the Spider Totem stuff is back my first comic bought was Coming Home where they introduced the idea and ever since then I have loved hearing more and more about it and how it connects with characters like Ezekiel or Silk.
Silk is best girl
I refuse to acknowledge any of that stuff until they bring Karn back to life, if they don’t give a shit about cannon why should we.
@@stafy3 she really is great and I don't know if you know this but scientifically spiders webs is stronger than steel so in theory her original costume probably has the best protection from bullets since it's bulletproof and stronger than steel
@@mattphillips3537 Karn as in Inheritors Karn or do you mean Kane as in Scarlet Spider
@@mahiyatsafiyullah7103 Karn as in the Inheritors, but when was the last time we saw Kaine? Marvels been using him and Ben Reilly pretty interchangeably lately.
That's a self insert of the editor no joke 😅
Oooooo. Thats really petty And weird
"Paul", more like Gordon Freeman.
And That’s why i prefer "renew your votes”as my canon timeline.
Why the fuck do they keep doing Peter that bad
the stupid excuse of SpIdRman CaNt be Hnappy
Spider-Man’s biggest haters are his own writers
At this point just be a villain bro😌
He still has black cat so it's not like his love life is over.
@@crashpal doesn't Black Cat hate him thanks to Doctor Octopus? (I'm out of the loop on comics)
@Epsy Blue that was like 30 issues 2 saga arcs ago. They patched up and Felicia also understood that was Otto Octavius and not Peter
Man why’s marvel only trying to make Peter suffer
Cause he’s making too much money, we fans love him as a character.
The worst self insert to make peter suffer
Paul is quite literally just Gordon freeman.
Fr😂
Batman has a serious tone but peter always gets the short stick.
She was married to him for 20 years IRL. The writers just hate the marriage and are looking for any reason so it doesn't happen again. Neither Peter or MJ are at fault. The writers are for not giving people wgat they want.
Bro that's so tragic, especially having 2 kids part. Like it makes the heart ache so much , knowing you love of life is someone else's
Let’s not forget that he has already went through this same thing with Gwen Stacy, finding out after she died that she had two kids (boy & girl) with Norman Osborn. If they are going to mess him over with MJ they could at least come up with an original way to do it like her having triplets or only one child, but noooo they have to basically rehash an old story instead.