2020 Subaru Legacy - An AWD sedan at an unbelievable price
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ย. 2019
- The Subaru Legacy stands as a testament to the humble sedan in a world growing ever more crowded with crossovers and SUVs.
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The Subaru Legacy doesn’t have a rear liftgate or enough ground clearance to go off-roading, but it does have all-wheel drive, plenty of legroom, and-best of all-the nimble handling of a sedan.
Subaru has made its mark thanks to wagons and crossovers, but the Legacy proves it can still make a good sedan, too. The boxer 4-cylinder engine under the hood of most Legacies produces 182 horsepower and 176 pound-feet of torque, run through a continuously variable automatic transmission (CVT) to all-wheel drive. It’s good enough to make the Legacy quick around town, but anyone hoping to drop the hammer on the highway will want the 2.4-liter turbocharged 4-cylinder in Legacy XT trims. That engine’s 260 horsepower and 270 pound-feet of torque put the Legacy on the cusp of sport-sedan territory.
Inside, there’s plenty of cabin space both in the front seat and in the backseat. Up front, the 11.6-inch touchscreen runs Subaru Starlink, Apple CarPlay, and Android Auto, although George Kennedy found its vertical orientation frustrating, and too many simple controls are buried in the system’s submenus.
Pricing for the Legacy starts at an extremely appealing $22,745 and rises to the Touring XT’s $35,895 MSRP.
For more information on the 2020 Subaru Legacy, read George’s full review on CarGurus: cargur.us/xH2DM
Presenter: George Kennedy
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Just bought the 2020 Legacy limited last week. If you take a little bit of time to learn the touch screen it really is not that complicated and quite easy to navigate. It's no different when you buy a new cell phone. It takes time to figure out how to navigate through it but once you do, it just becomes second nature. Love the new legacy and not deterred by the new touch screen display at all. Great job Subaru!!! You have done a good thing here.
I said all along that this isn’t a big deal and the media’s making noise about it because it’s not an Accord. You tell them man. I love my touring XT.
Just got mine and I agree it isn't complicated at all.
Most people were in awe with Tesla’s tablet when it first came out, and now that more automakers come out with them all of a sudden people despise them- make up your mind folks!!
Brian Forman hahaha so true, people never know what they want anymore. It’s comical
The problem is you’re assuming the people who like tesla’s screen are the same people hating this screen.
Brian Forman right! I say you do all your settings before you start driving. I don’t see a problem
Tesla's infotainment system is vastly superior to anything Subaru could ever make.
Brownie Sundown that’s not the topic here, it’s not wether who’s infotainment is better than the others, the point is the like or dislike of them. People loved the idea of it but now that more of them are out and no physical knobs anywhere people now dislike them.
A car will do two things: take you somewhere, and bring you back. I think too much time on this otherwise decent review of the car was spent complaining about the infotainment screen. It’s a car: talk with me about more performance, handling, comparisons with previous models, comparisons (and contrasts) with competitive models in class, etc.
You are overblowing this. The infotainment system took me all of one day to get used to. The auto stop/start disable was moved to the home screen by an update and all you have to do is reach over and touch it - easy as a physical button and no menus to go through. I like the touch screen with all its info and I'm an old fart relatively speaking compared to you. As far as the rest of the car goes - that interior is best in class. Seriously. I test drove a Mazda6 Grand Touring Reserve and the Legacy Touring XT (which I bought) is every bit as premium inside. The driver seat is the best I've ever sat in. The extendable thigh support should be in ever car for tall buyers. The exterior may be conservative, but it will age well compared to overstyled cars like the Accord, Altima and Camry. Basically, flat out love this car. Understated, premium, up-to-date in every way and fast.
I almost skipped buying the Subaru with the large touchscreen because of reviews like this, but I did , and I love it, its wonderful, and its easy to use It also has physical buttons to adjust climate control I can even set it and start the car from my Phone Anyone who sees this tablet dash is in awe of it
And it works quickly, they told me it has two Denzo micro processors in it, The Slow Volvo tablet has ONE. Please ignore these comments on the tablet dash, and experience it and you will buy it and fall in love with it too!
Totally agree, this is a great system!
Thank you! I'm looking into getting a legacy and this helped more than the past 6 videos I've seen bashing the display!
I agree! I had a Legacy with this screen while mine was being repaired. The screen is polarizing at first, but after a day, I had everything figured out and it was a no brainer. I loved it - wouldn't hesitate to buy one.
Agreed. That screen is amazing.
100%
I’m a millennial, I have a 2020 Legacy limited, love it. Vs competition... In my opinion, can't compare. I bought my mom one also in blue limited because of how great it is. I don't like ”flashy” vehicles.... I care mostly about how safe and fun a vehicle is then looks.
Pay off your student loans yet...?
Shawn Warnick I’m sorry, if I came out in a negative way. I meant to simply share how I enjoy Subaru’s. Thankfully my undergrad was paid for. Medical school different story. But I am grateful for the opportunity to service those in need. Blessings, CB
@@lamininsototrader7399 my wife is a pharmacist and her grad school killed our finances with debt. Unfortunately it will be gone by the time we are 30. Was 45k a year for her grad school
I keep my 2010 legacy it has lot of miles and still drive like new.
Having the annoying auto start control buried in the touch screen menus is fine as long as it doesn't revert back to the on position each time you start the car, as most do. You don't say if that's the case. Otherwise, I'm fine with the touch screen- there are physical buttons and knobs for temp and basic radio functions and some redundant controls on the wheel. I had one of these as a loaner for a couple hours and it had a super smooth quiet ride that would shame many far more expensive cars. I was impressed.
Really? I just bought the limited XT and Love the infotainment, it’s very easy to use. It took a day to figure it out. You should be giving the brand kudos for giving so much tech for such a great price.
How, do you like the drive? (Power and handling)
I’ve had it 10 months now and I love it. I came out of a Maxima SR which was pretty stiff, this car is definitely softer sprung but when you hammer it coming out of corners with the all wheel drive it just bites and goes in the direction you point it. Power is great the 2.4 turbo has plenty of get up and go. Some of the issues in the video with the infotainment have been corrected with software updates at the dealer.
I own the 2020 Legacy Sport and the touchscreen climate controls does get some getting used to, but overall it's not as bad as he is making it out to be. Carplay works just fine as does BT audio.
How do you like the power and handling on the Sport?
C'mon George, why you did not point out the physical temperature control buttons next to screen. I understand that the airflow adjustment is done through the screen but with auto HVAC systems you don't change that that often. For the record, the temperature can be changed without the the screen. This review is inacurate.
Does it know not to blow air while the car is still cold until it warms up? Asking as someone who lives where it gets COLD. Sub-zero cold.
@@penguin12902 my 2011 legacy doesnt turn the air on till it has a warm engine other than the defrost so I'm sure the new ones do
@@Hallowsaw I have a 2014 Legacy. It doesn't have climate control, so I doubt your 2011 does
@@penguin12902 you mean where it adjust itself based on the temperature inside the vehicle? If so yes it does. I set it to 70 and it does the air speed and temperature itself.
@@penguin12902 I have the 3.6r limited with the navigation package. Pretty much the person who bought it before me got every option possible. Has a moonroof. Navigation/dvd. Heated seats, leather, trunk plastic matting, bumper plaque protection, hood wind shield, battery warmer. I mean they put every single option on this thing and I dont plan on getting rid of it. Drives amazingly. Idk if you have the 3.6r limited where you are but it comes with automatic climate control here in the us
the video editing has really improved on this channel. well done and keep it up.
Wow, Portsmouth NH has really grown since I was stationed there in the early 60's!
@TOMIBM....I was there in the early 70's...quite a lifetime ago. Thanks.
@TOMIBM...i was there in the early 70's...nice experience.
Get someone else to review cars. This guy if overly focused on everything but how the car drives, how safe it has become, and the value of the used car. Having a physical button for the features mentioned would at least 3 buttons causing clutter or unsightly view. Subarus have been pioneers in safety maybe u shouldn't be messing around with how to change options on your car while driving
I love the new Legacy, but I agree with the touch screen display. Hey Subaru! Leave the buttons and switches!!!!!!!
Regarding climate, mine is set to auto 99% of the time and I only change it to defrost. Why is this a big deal? I test drove the car and only thing I disliked was the buried start/stop switch. I’d prefer that the switch permanently disable it, but if Subaru won’t do that at least let me move the switch to the main screen. I’m surprised the review didn’t mention adaptive cruise and lane centering which are great features. The limited and higher trims have leather seats and an extendable thigh support that is unheard of in this class of vehicle. Legacy is my next car.
A software update has added the start/stop switch to the main screen
I've had a 2020 Premium since late September after having 2015 and 2017 Limiteds. It's definitely a tighter, better handling ride. I do think that you are being over critical of the infotainment system. I can, via USB, plug my Android phone into the system and get a perfectly acceptable navigation system. Likewise, a portable CD player works fine through the Media icon. Anyway, we shouldn't be making multi-step fine adjustments while driving. The basics like ventilation, heat, AC, radio are all easily accessible.
The reviewer mistakenly indicates that to adjust the temperature it requires multiple steps. My premium has dedicated up and down buttons for temperature. I leave the car on Auto other than that. So this is more than simple enough.
This will be my next car in the XT trim. I had to order one. The large screen isn’t an issue, I’ll get use to it.
i would love to have heard something, anything at all, about its rough-road ride quality and NVH.
As you moan about controls being in sub-menus you are browsing through controls that don't even exist on earlier cars. You ignore the fact that there are physical climate buttons along side the screen, and other climate controls are in a bottom panel that remains there all the time. In fact it is quite simple to drive this car and never touch a sub-menu. If you need to say, enable AVH, which is two clicks, just do it before departing.
I read that the CarPlay small display is something controlled by Apple not Subaru and that Apple did not want to reconfigure it. Any truth to this?
Michael Dolan yes this absolutely true. Apple only have landscape or horizontal car play and because Subaru’s screen is portrait or vertical they turned out small and only occupies the top portion.
I am in the market for a 2020 subaru and your honest opinions and concerns of the 11.6 " infotainment display were very valuable...it would seem best that a safe driver should let the "co-pilot" operate the controls during driving.
The one advantage I can see with the large screen is using Android Auto and then having Sirius XM on the screen below. Other than that, not much use except that the in-car nav looks cool in full screen.
A infotainment update added a start/stop button to the home screen so that's no longer an issue
I get mine next week. A black sport.
Love the infoteitmemt system , I own a Volvo and let me tell you ,once you get used to is a breeze , is like you have a tablet in your car , now , if the car play and Android auto get distorted because the screen size and so , that I do not like it , other than that this is the future , we better get use to it .
Large infotainment is fine for displaying info, but the biggest problem everyone has is the climate control.. having multiple presses with eyes off the road to do simple adjustments. It's 100% unnecessary.
The only issue I have with the display is the teeny, tiny, fan speed button that is hard to get while driving.
I usually will set all the other stuff while my 2020 Legacy Limited needs a few minutes to idle down after a cold start-up. During this time I will set the cabin temperature, find my radio station, and set the fan speed. I do admit that the screen needs way too much attention, so much so that the car yells at me to have my eyes on the road (I turn that off too! LOL), and so yeah, I think the touch screen needs some work.
Otherwise, I do like the car, and I am getting used to the touch screen and where to find things that I need or do not need.
I opted for the premium 2020 Forester. We made the right decision. My daughter is going to get the 2021 legacy premium.
I think you are making a big deal about the sub menus. The touch screen is fine. I love it, yes physical buttons are better but it’s not hard to get to the heated and ventilated seats or auto stop/start once you get use to it. The touring model interior is better the Accord, Camry, Altima and right there with Mazda 6. I looked at all of them and Subaru beats them at their own game in my opinion. The little things like AWD, front and rear ventilated disc brake, 11.6 inch tablet screen, and Napa leather that you cannot find on the others. Now the Mazda 6 does offer Napa leather which is nice but the rest doesn’t. Nissan does offer AWD but you have to pay a hefty price and settle for a lesser motor. Oh forgot to mention the driver seat hamstring extender, the precious Accord won’t give you that either.
If I can't adjust the temperature in one touch, I'm out. I want simple and easy to use. George please do more Wheel bearings podcast please
They do have physical temp control buttons as well as buttons for the front/rear defrost.
Purchase the auto start app for your cell and you can control everything and perform a lot of the functions before you even set foot in your car. A small tweak here or there should not be a big issue
I wonder if anyone of the people who complain about the touch screen being too large all opt for the bigger screens on cellphones when they upgrade?
I own a 2021 Outback once you get use to the infotainment system its not an issue
Both my wife and I have '20 Legacy Limited's with the Harman Kardon stereo. The software update that came out in July was performed on both and the Speed Volume Control is now gone. Not to mention the Voice Image Control (seen in the video) that is not there. Very disapointing on a high end audio. Dealer doesn't care and I reached out to Subaru Canada who says to contact my dealer... I just want them to escalate the issue to tech support (no news since) . I've demosntrated the problem on 3... Legacy/Outback's with the Harman Kardon system. It's like Subaru just put the system there and didn't bother fully integrating it in their interface. It was the feature I was the most interested in the Limited trim but I should have saved thousands and gone with a cheaper trim. The Mazda 3 that I traded had a 7 "speed" volume control in its base 6 speaker audio and every base stereo now hav this simple control, not to mention all the controls under Voice Image Control.
As others have said, AVH and Auto Start/Stop should have physical controls on the console. Otherwise, they are useless when you actually want to use them. To partially defeat Auto Start/Stop, I put the transmission in Neutral when I get at a light.
Hello, I thank you for your very wonderful report on the Subaru Legacy 2020, I have a question and I hope you will answer, which is why the Japanese manufacturer has become dependent on the CVT transmission, including the Subaru because in the past it used to depend on the normal automatic transmission known to most car users and it was Powerful and enjoyable performance, especially since its engine is similar to the Porsche engines in that the movement of its cylinders is horizontal.
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Then infotainment system is badass... Tell me what other none luxury car brand has that big Tesla like tablet screen?
Why do you need a big screen to drive on the road? It's a distraction. Look I'm a millennial and love technology but that's a foolish decision on subarus part.
Ford
They've followed tesla which is pretty smart, but adjust size of the buttons and its perfect, car trends - every manufacturer follows, get used to it. Using it through the menus is meant for a younger audience and saves on interior costs
This touchscreen is horrific. You need physical controls which can be accessed easily while driving and aren't distracting
Am I the only one here for George? 😂 He could sell the Brooklyn bridge and I’d buy it
My dream!
I wish subaru Australia would sell the legacy in Australia
New update 704 makes apple care is great
This car is almost good looking. With just a bit more effort in the design they'd have a stunner. Add a stick, and they'd have my money...
If you find Audi too expensive, then Subaru is the best choice.
100% agreed with the ridiculous over pushed buttons to work some simple items in the Legacy.... For starters who is able to navigate screens while driving??? Glad I saw your video cause I was looking at the legacy for AWD, Altima and Camry. Altima looks plasticky and cheap not a whole lot of nice design features and interior trim... Camry AWD definitely looks sharper and more modern for 2020 and the user friendly controls work BETTER. Plus Toyotas standard reliability like the Corolla. I think I will just stick with TOYOTA this time around. Actually may go for a Used Low Mile HIGHLANDER and get the whole package for a lot LESS. The SUV should be more sort after because the degree of better visibility, you sit a bit higher than a normal AWD car in that class
The stop/start feature being hidden in menus makes this a no go in addition to CVT. Too bad
Old exterior better than this one but the new interior is lit
That chime is almost as annoying as Ford's.
As long as they come with a CVT , they are dead to me , same as Hondas . They used to be my cars of choice .
Looks like a lot of cars are going to be dead to you as most of the Japanese car makers are all using CVT or a variation of it, as much as I hate to admit to it, this is what it comes down to, unfortunately. With an extended warranty if something happens, you are covered, you can sell the car and move on
@@DJM626 Mazda .
I'll stick with my 2019 Legacy
same here i got my 2019 and i like my design better. this shit 2020 model looks like a honda accord 2015
I actually prefer everything else on the 2019 legacy 3.6r other than the global platforms dynamics. 2020 legacy is a fail
Buy the 2019,better car great infotainment 😊
Jerry Paul hell yeah
2018 or 19. They are gonna be better reliability too. I can just tell with the infotainment that it's going to be a potential nightmare in the future for the 2020
I prefer real buttons, to much distraction with big screens. Hate the auto start stop you have to turn off every time and the over aggressive driver monitor alert your have to turn off every time and AVH has to be turned on every time. Its becoming to much work to drive these systems. I love the new safety systems but make them more user friendly, Im driving a car not surfing the web.
I really hope Subaru and other manufacturers pay attention to complaints like this. There are plenty cars with really nice, simple climate controls and quick toggles and buttons to turn on/off often used features.
30 seconds to a minute pre-trip and everything is set as you like it. Nothing needs adjusting while you drive. Temp up/down is a physical control.
I won't buy a car with touch screen options for heat controls or heated seat controls. Guess what - I live in the north, I'm not taking my gloves off while I'm driving when it's sub zero outside so I can change from defrost to vents or turn my heated seats from high to low.
Penguin1290 let me educate you my man. Subaru’s screen is glove friendly and you don’t have to take your glove off to adjust anything on the screen
@@MrMomo0529 might be, but some of the options were so small I had a tough time hitting them parked, let alone while driving..and wearing fat gloves. 3 clicks deep to get to the heated seats. I love my Subarus, but I test drove the 2020 Legacy and the only thing that really impressed me was the feel of the new smaller steering wheel.
@@penguin12902 Sounds to me like you shouldn't be driving at all if the massive climate buttons on the side of the dash are too small for you.
my 06 impraza gets 25 mpg does not have all that crap I don't need
I own both of those cars you mentioned, curiously, and the Legacy is far nicer to drive.
My '11 3.6r legacy is so smooth and comfortable.
Tesla is vertical, I guess they don’t use Car Play, right?
That big screen trying to replace basic functions like climate control and auto start-stop disable looks really bad to me. Lets hear it for knobs and switches that can be used without taking our eyes off the road! If that screen is the "improvement", I think I'll just keep my present car.
Subaru threw in the towel with interior design by slapping a tv in the middle of it.
I have this car and the infotainment system is great. YMMV
I have the limited model 2020. The major flaws is the avh does not have a permanently on setting and the way subaru is pushing the TomTom navigation. Subaru blocks android auto and Apple caraway from being full screen to promote their TomTom navigation with a hefty map update fee. The voNokia. Tomtom navigation feature is at the level of the year 2000 nokia.
Wrong. Carplay's size and orientation is entirely controlled by apple. Same reason why other cars like the Prius Prime have the same deal going on with their carplay. Good try tho
@@TheBrownieSundownHD you are wrong. Apple carplay and Android auto software goes by the ratio of the infotainment system coding. That is why Subaru recently announced an update to the infotainment system to enable Apple carplay and Android auto to access the portrait display ratio.
@@TheBrownieSundownHD so, your try is not good. It is using wrong information. The leads you to appear to be trying to know more than you do.
@@mcramacrash Subaru does zero work on Apple Carplay. If they announce that their cars now support portrait Carplay, then Apple has added support for portrait Carplay. I know it's very hard to understand that Subaru doesn't work on an Apple product but I'm sure with just a little more effort you might be able to make that distinction! :)
@@TheBrownieSundownHD No car infotainment system uses open software. They all limit the screen ratio area of apple carplay and android auto access. Apple and Google have absolutely no say in how much screen if any those infotainment systems let them use. Until 2018 Toyota and Lexus did not even allow the apple carplay or android auto software to load in their infotainment systems. The way you are typing. Toyota and Lexus could not use Apple carplay before 2018 because Apple did not write code for their systems. That is as stupid as believing apple or Google have a say in the screen ratio allowed to be used.
In the 2019 Subaru forester their was two infotainment systems. They had one with a built in GPS map system. That infotainment system allowed apple carplay and android auto to only use small parts of the screen. The second infotainment system used all same hardware but did not have built in GPS and maps. The second infotainment system allowed apple carplay and android auto to use full screen.
After all that if you do not get it. I feel bad for you.
Portsmouth nh
Depressing Grey or Death Black interior colors from 1990.
I’m sure you want your coffin lined in these colors
This car is great but I feel so sad when it comes to the screen. Why did they do that
This constant drive to greater fuel economy by consumers, govt., and car companies is coming with a lot of unintended costs that the buyers discover later in CVT transmissions, turbos, and extensive electronics with unknown durability. Better watch a few dozen Scotty Kilmer mechanic's videos to know what you're getting into.
Forgot to mention stop start technology being hard on the engine.
Sure thing, I now own a 2014 Volvo XC70 T6 with all the gizmos, scary when you think of what could go wrong$$$
This is why I like my older 3.6r legacy with a 5 speed auto. It's been bulletproof so far at 130k miles and it doesnt have a turbo to get in the way so it's really easy to work on. Downside is I get 23mpg... but I only drive 8-10k miles a year so I'm really not spending too much more on gas than other cars with 250hp.
I don't like bucky bunny teeth.
I hate everything buried under touch screen menus. I like the Legacy in every way except the infotainment and climate systems. I'd advise people to get a 2019 or wait a year or two for Subaru to fix the one glaring flaw.
A lot of senior citizens like subarus. But this touch screen may lose their customer base.
You're right on with the criticism of the touch screen. Subaru's conservative styling and performance cultivates interest from Luddites like me, then they blow it with a distracting, non-serviceable console that's sure to fail and disable the vehicle every six years or so. Add the central control board to the list of prohibitively expensive-to-replace components that ensure the early demise of our shiny new toys. I've been driving Foresters for the last 20 years and was hoping to buy a Legacy this year. But not now. I'll have to wait a year or two for Subaru to realize their mistake and start selling cars again instead of arcades.
Should have tested the XT instead.
No one buys the XT and the controls are awful in that one as well
I ordered the Touring XT, so someone is buying them. I definitely agree the reviewer should have tested the XT.
@@dyfhid XT on my radar (wrx owner + newborn)
Subarus have timing belt and they're expensive to maintain. The All wheel drives also breakdown. I liked Subaru legacy, but reading about it, it disappointed me to purchase it..
Timing chain actually.
@@80srockerable
According to Google, since 2013 Subaru installed timing chain.. Which is still alittle late. anyhow, the maintenance is still high and the competitors are still ahead of Subarus.
I'm at 96k on a '16 Outback bought new. Replaced 1 rear wheel bearing & self replaced rear brake pads. Otherwise it's been great car. My previous '13 did burn oil however.
@@80srockerable
I used to like them, when I did my research, I Saw some negativity about it.. otherwise, I still chose legacy over Hyundai and Kias..
@@mufasarobin9381 I actually like the 15-19 Legacy body better. I think they are over pricing the Outback. The all new Hyundai Sonata is a great looking car. I'm not sure what I will do next. The Forester appeals more to me than OB. But there are a lot of good choices out there. I read crazy prices of replacing CVT transmissions. But I think transmission failure is sometimes result of abuse.
The huge infotainment screen doesn't bother me a bit. The affordable price with the security of AWD is much more important. Subie buyers will love it... of course, people buy Ascent and Outback much more.... because of the American herd buying mentality.
@Ski Bum amen, Ski Bum.
AAMOF.. I love it. easy to see, easy to use.. full of useful finctions,
We wonder why folks still get distracted....and Subaru claims Safety, and gives us a big complicated screen, rather than simplicity. Quite ridiculous. Thanks, even tho the price is good on the base, trim.
The screen is a DEAL breaker for me !! I won't buy a subaru because of that !!!
It's 2019
The world speaks metric.
Why is America Sooo out of touch with the world around it?
I really hate this dummy-proof features like eyesight, lane departures etc. I also hate a huge tablet attached to my car. A small screen would suffice
Remove all those features and make it a hybrid for fuel consumption
Would never get this car, infotainment system is too complicated for me.
Nope, nope, nope....turning in my 16 model now. Tech system awful on that one; 2020 10x worse. Optima better deal.
You’ve been brainwashed too?
I like kia but I would go with a 2018-19 3.6r and you will be pleasantly thrilled. Really reliable and not distracting like the 2020
Get a life. You are wasting our time complaining about the infotainment system. That is not why we buy or do not buy a car.
A ridiculously over complicated infotainment system. When you have to take your eyes off the road to make a simple adjustment, it is a fiasco. Subaru aren't the only manufacturers to do this, but they need to concentrate on the 20% of features used 80% of the time and give them buttons or knobs. I was seriously looking to buy a Legacy Premium, we already drive a Forester Premium, but there is no way I am going to use that infotainment system.
Are you blind? Or are we just choosing to ignore the climate buttons and persistent climate elements on the dash?