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It's time to do the showdown between the Arrma Kraton 4x4 4S BLX and the brand new Traxxas Maxx! Which truck is better? Which one is faster? Which is more durable? Watch this video and find out!
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I love my Maxx. I got back into the hobby after 10 years and wasn’t very familiar with these new brands. I quickly learned that nitro is a thing of the past. have a T-Maxx 3.3 and a Revo 3.3 that are over 10+ years old and they still run and work. I completely ruined a 3.3 engine when I first got into the hobby and didn’t have my tuning down and Traxxas replaced it for free after a year of use. The customer support I received was great, I hope they are still the same, I see so many Traxxas haters on the internet these days. I think I will be picking up an arma granite or this arma 4s for my dad for his birthday, thanks for the videos and reviews!!
Arrma’s are great, reason why people get annoyed with Traxxas is they are generally very expensive and are seen as too beginner friendly. I like Traxxas but prefer Arrma’s range of RC’s
Also once Traxxas have a beginner customer they lock you in. Make you scared of purchasing non Traxxas LiPo’s and you forget you can get better value for money elsewhere
Ive had both and have to agree with most of the video. I just sold my Outcast 4s to a neighbor that I just got into RC and I recently bought the Maxx. I have upgraded a lot on my Maxx and have it perfect at the moment. Wide kit, Traxxas CVDs, T-Bone wheelie bar with the Traxxas wheels, dBoot Backflip LPs, LED kit, and more. So much fun. I also just painted a new Proline Maxx body with white as the final color and it looks awesome.
I feel like people undervalue plastic.
Sometimes, engineers use plastic because it is better for the application than metal. Metal tends not to bend back on its own.
@Zenz Vis like for arms metal arms are wayyy weak0er and cost way more
@@Smaug1 maybe they'll use spring steel in future :)
@@AvgDan spring steel is expensive
You're going to piss off a few people with that conclusion. :)
Still the best and most unbiased review of Rc out there.
Cheers from Oz mate.
They are completely different rc's, i love both. Two of my favourite brands. I would love to see a comparison between the maxx and outcast 4s
Really great comparison! This will greatly help me in my search for a new monster truck.
Great review. Touched on a lot of facts.
Great comparison and footage 😎👍
Honest review , mad respect !
Appreciate the review. Very insightful. Thanks 🤘
Great review!
Ive found some axle replacements for the Revo made by Hot Racing all i had to do was file out the inside with a dremel and swap out the wheel washers with smaller metal washer to make them work for the Maxx.
Ooo fanboy wars in the comments gunna be heated
Lawrence Timme flame on! 🔥😎🧨
It's like nobody can accept that both companies make FANTASTIC products and no one admits it lol
@@crazycamkalani or maybe they both suck? It's like when people fight over which console is best Xbox vs ps4 when pc master race is best 😉
@@LawrenceTimme so true, unless it's the traxxas mini e revo which is shit
BrillyWilly - William Ratcliffe my friends and one for now 7 years. It was brushed but he upgraded it to brushless and it was fine but after a while, it got the e revo decease ( loosening wheel, suspension that fall apart... now he have an x maxx so he’s fine
Great comparison!
Traxxas is very proud of their RC. Traxxas does their best to lock you in their brand. I like AARMA all day long. Felony, Infraction, Kraton, and Mojave are very good trucks.
Completely agree, Arrma all day 👌
Great Review! I really appreciate how he weighs the difference between performance and durability. I'd probably go with the Kraton since I would be less likely to jump it so abusively.
I have both. So, i had the kraton first.... found out I hate it. everything about it. its so flimsy for the amount of power it has, 3s is almost too much. so i got the Xmaxx AND the maxx at the same time. Ive had a few days with both. I am certainly liking the maxx more. *gasp* right? well, the xmaxx is just big... and scary... and crazy. but the maxx is perfect size, crazy fast and totally bulletproof. everything you want in a basher. I think the xmaxx will ultimately be my fav overall soon enough, but for now, the wow factor and wicked upgrades availble make the maxx a real score.
you're dead on. the maxx is really good, traxxas did an awesome job on this one.
Great comparison,nice video
thanks!
Nice breakdown and comparison 👊. It's weird how breakages can be such a personal experience thing 🤔. My Kraton 4s has had a rough life and has been very durable. The speed and handling is awesome too. 🍻😎💪👊👊
thanks Rich, you probably just drive better than me. 😎
Rich Duperbash yeah know denying that after watching your vids bro 👍🏻
Agreed. You can get an arrma that is a tank right from the get go or its just a son of a really NICE LADY! my outcast is a tank and my kraton trended to broken a lot more often. Still a beast tho.
Rich jumps his kraton 35 feet in the air.
Just picked up a Maxx. It’s awesome. Great review!
Try the wide kit with the metal driveshafts. Awesome upgrade. Worth it!
Absolutely accurate!
Good review... 👍🏾
Nice comparison and 2 of the best trucks to date
buy both
Looking forward to the version 2 comparison curious to see if anything changes
Nice review 👍🏻 The maxx is £569 here £200 more the the Kraton 4s which makes it stupid money for a basic 1/10 MT ,on top of that I'd then have to find a low traction surface to run it on so it doesn't tip over every corner . Pros and cons for both trucks but the Arrma wins for me personally for value and the super fun handling.
Arrma is weak. Have fun buying all the upgrade parts if you can find them at all
The maxx is a very unique truck... "Basic" is not the proper word.
Super thorough review, thanks! In the UK a new Maxx is £600+, while a Kraton 4 is £350, ie about £70 less than a Rustler..! Seems like a bargain. Also, with Arma HQ being in the UK, parts availability is good (though so is Traxxas). I was surprised by the breakages on the Arma - other people have found them one of the most durable. Can't doubt the Traxxas though - those things look way tough and the quality is so high. But I'd go Kraton - a zesty package and can get two batteries and a host of RPM for the same ££.
Loving this one thanks for sharing very important information giving thanks blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work I'll take the arma very tough truck can definitely take the abuse traxx maxx is a very good truck just go for what you really want 🙏🙏🙏🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲💪💪💪
THANK YOU Going with the MAXX I'm a newbie to RC
Just bought the v5 6s Notorious for the same money as the Maxx....No brainer !!! Like the Maxx, but too expensive and you have to upgrade it almost immediately. and the Notorious will run circles around it virtually anywhere and you really dont have to do anything to it as far as upgrading, bone stock it is a tank.....
Thanks for taking the time to give an honest review. I have the MAXX, and I hate buying parts. The MAXX has came out with a wider wheel base, that's another $45. They do have it priced a bit high. $450 to $475 for the added beefiness would be fine.
Agreed. The $550 should include the light kit. It's some BS. I love my maxx, but god daym.
@@John-shreds Yeah... It's bs. The light kit is $100 by itself... That's dumb
@@John-shreds The light kits are trash and useless. Almost all of the lights on my udr are broken.
Yeah I'm want to get the maxx
Avesome video, liked and subscribed :)
I just picked up a used Maxx with WideMaxx kit installed and 3s battery/charger for $500 in really good condition. Not sure if I want to get 4s battery or upgrade ESC/Motor to 6s since drive train can apparently handle 6s.
I did get the Maxx for 450 bux amazon brand new that seems to be the going price now and I immediately began upgrading and tweaking things here and there Like The wide max kit. Also, change the tire out with the RedCat Kaiju tires are incredible and super cheap 60 bux for set of 4, and they completely blow the stock Maxx tires out the water
in every way imaginable. I went constant velocity steel CVs and Full positrack with Hot Racing MXX125 Front and Rear Differential Locker Spool and upgraded central
diff with the full metal diff then plastic welded it to make full posi in addition with the metal pinion 50t gear. I even replaced the plastic bushings
in the wheelie bar with bearings 10x15 bearings fit perfectly. Also, replace the fans with R1 Works 30mm Low Profile 8.4v Cooling Fans Huge cooling performance different
also indestructible I did add white silicon thermal paste to the heat spreader on the motor and what a massive heat displacement difference / improvement. Replaced the shock fluid with Lucas 80w synthetic silicon oil and I got shock socks and I added the stainless steel under armor I think people
forget that part of this hobby if upgrading at least it is for me I enjoy the heck out of it. I went Traxxas because I definitely wanted durability and support and they
have that in spades hands down! I think I want to get an Arma to try them out but I do see they brake a lot and I am very clumsy with my rc's while driving /
NOT skilled at all and I don’t like stopping once I get going but I am thinking of the 8S Arma not ready to throw out 1000 bucks to X-Maxx -_- All and all I’m heavily
invested in this Maxx 4s and its perfect now and indestructible.
The mini Maxx does take a beating, it's the basher of choice for sure out of these 2 trucks hands down. I bought the wide Maxx kit and have been planning on putting it on as soon as I broke an A-arm, been waiting a long ass time now lol
Nice. But which 1 would you pick after all upgrades and mods?
? Maxx with widening kit and LED kit ~$750. Or Arma 3s Typhon AND a 4s Kraton for $700? OR a 6S Kraton with an m3c chassis and whatever other small upgrade you want for$750 For me 1 choice is clear to not make. Not to mention..the 6S Redcat Kaiju for $400!!
What BATTERYS And charger ARE good FOR THE Tyron 6s or 4s buggy?
Would any armma shocks be close in size to the maxx shocks! The maxx likes to chassis slap to easy would like a better shock set up for mine..
oh man the radio arrma comes with now is fine that one is some ass but good video man
Hi nice compare this 2 car, can u do a kraton 4s and arrma vorteks .tq brother
That's actually a good endorsement for the Maxx. You started out at the other end of things, lol! I still can't justify either 🤣
you got too many nicer cars to get one of these "cheap" cars. 👍
@@RazorRC lol! Yeah, race kits turned bashers are expensive. My Tekno ET has a ton of M2C parts to make it durable 😱 I was just meaning that on my 3s line I can't keep the slipper set so I don't want a 4s and I just got a used Xmaxx so no need for the baby one 👍
Fast forwarding with price increases on the Traxxas widening the gap even more, do you feel the same way? Also any changes you've experienced regarding part availability from Arrma since this video was made?
What are you thoughts on the Maxx V2, and the recently announced Kraton V2? they seem to be getting closer together...
Funny the whole time arrma was pretty much ahead but in the end just like the xmaxx everyone said was way to much money is the stringiest rc so long term use it’s a cheaper worry free rc ?? That what I’m getting from this lol great video
Strongest lol sorry for word correct
They make a wide kilt for the maxx too that makes it alot more stable and handles 10x better so with that installed the maxx trumps the arma 4s
I bought a Maxx. Gonna get the wide maxx kit. I know thats more money but I bought it to drive and play not to wait on parts. If I do need parts my local hobby shop will have my parts in stock.
Thanks very informative! I wanted to move up to a 4s but really not sure which to go with ?
I know the price difference and some of the weak points, can you tell me as you said ! The parts that had to be replaced on the arma do they come close to the price of the traxx out of the box with nothing replaced ??
That's the correct question! Upgrade the arrma for same price as max! Then you have a car that is durable and handles orsum! Look at the max as soon as you turn hard it flips! Nothing worse! How can you have fun just driving in a straight line of a jump then go slowly all the way back to start another jump! You want to do turns at speed and actually drive it! I have alot of arrmas and when you upgrade them they are absolutely magnificent rc's and end up costing the same as traxxas! I have only owned arrma 6s not 3and4 s but 120 dollars spare will upgrade this 4s kraton with money left over! Dont forget you can only use traxxas lipo batteries and other stuff were arrmas are so customizable with motors,esc, servos and all plastics and any batteries! Traxxas are a ripp of always have been always will! Your welcome to look at some of my vids I no what I'm talking about!
@@baddazzgarage2953
Thanks for your response
Since posting I have purchased the maxx . And did apply the wide for $50.00. Up the shock oil in rear and front ! And I have to say I'm very pleased with results!! The maxx now corners at amazing speed and no tipping just leans into turns:) what a difference from stock to the wide !! And bashing has been so far no breakage! Jumps very well and takes a beating! Happy with my decision.
@@3630FS that's great what works for you but I'd try drive an arrma to see what quality handling is and durability with a few little upgrades! Happy bashing 👍
Value-wise the 3S Arrmas give both of these trucks a very good run for their money! The Traxxas costs almost twice as much as a Senton 3S, is it twice the truck? Not for me...
Around here the maxx is 150$ more than the outcast 6s/ kraton 6s, so I’m comparing it to the arrma 6s. The choice is easy.
It's the maxx then right? The arrma 6s vehicles have paper for a chassis!
I went to my hobbyshop to see the maxx. I went home with a typhon 6s wit alu braces en servomount, savox1210 waterproof servo (32kg) a spektrum dsm 2 ch reciever. In total of €50 more then the maxx. Easy choice!
Easiest choice of my life if kraton 4s or trx maxx: CEN Reeper dead stock more fun than both and more capable used with lipos and pricewise less than the Maxx :DDDD
You must not be to bright you would rather buy an arrma for 150 less than have it brake just like he said in the video and spend 250 to 300 in upgrades just so you can bash it half as hard as the max not to mention all the time you will spend fixing the arrma o in then buy the arrma junk
Brian Mahutga I’m comparing the maxx to the kraton 6s, not the 4s. For me the 6s is much cheaper than the maxx
I just picked up a Kraton 4s. eBay seller opened it, never ran it and sold it to me for $325 ($25 shipping but no sales tax.) So far I'm digging it. I hate the radio, but I already have another so it was only a $15 upgrade for a new receiver. The tires suck but will be replaced eventually. I'm not a fanboy of either but my wallet became a fanboy when I found this deal 🤣
It occurred to me today the best analogy for this battle. The Maxx is a clumsy Heavyweight (X-Maxx) that lost a few pounds to compete as a Middleweight. The Kraton 4S is an agile Lightweight (Typhon 3S) that put on a bunch of pounds to try to compete as a Middleweight. The Kraton floats like a butterfly, the Maxx stings like a bee. Enough boxing analogies? 🤣
There are endless way to looks at them. These great produces reviews videos is very personal. Experienced youtubers like yourself really helps viewers knows the pros and cons of each trucks if they are in the market of buying.
When I first see the release of Maxx, I look at the size and weight and compare them in my head with the other trucks alike in that size and price. Like a fully build Proline 4x4 and losi 3xle, 1/8 6s rigs etc is same price as Maxx, but the weight and handling of those trucks, knowing it by watching videos on youtube, will all be a world of difference from each others.
The market is flooded with great trucks nowadays. "In the end of the day, I just wish I have endless money for them all, so I don't have to choose ever! " But I still prefer the "heavier" Maxx between the two, because I know what im buying into, pricing of them won't affect my decision.
PS: I wish you could be making more videos like tuning tips on these trucks. Like the shocks pistons and camber links adjustment, with wrapped/ belted tires on these rigs, that can transform the handling etc.Thank you!
Cool detailed video, but i think the Maxx should be compared to the Arrma granite. Kraton is more like a truggy type Erevo but i think the granite is still better then the Maxx if you upgrade it with a 4s system. The maxx is a mini monster truck.
Ain’t seining dp getting sponsored by arma 😎
I’ve been on the fence about buying but am going to get one ☝️
Great 👍 video!!!
Please if you can help it, do NOT purchase one with the spectrum STX2 or STX3.controller.
I have the Erevo 2.0 the xmaxx and the maxx and traxxas is high on cost but the durability is worth the price
No one noticed the front shocks are mounted to different holes in front lower A arms?
Hi there, that was a fair and in-depth review. Where I'm from Kraton 4S sits at approx. 400 Euro, while Maxx at 637 Euro. Would that change which one you'd get? Am I better off dealing with Kraton's wore durability and buying stronger replacement parts later on?
At that price difference, I would get the Granite 4x4 3S BLX. I think it's a better truck overall than the Kraton 4S.
@@RazorRC I've heard lots of good things about the Granite, but that thing seems to wheelie even if you breathe on the throttle. Is Big Rock 3S with wider wheels also a good option if I want something longer?
@Chris D'oulmeth Yes, I'm pretty sure I'd go with Big Rock v3, whenever it reaches stores in my country (and if I have money for it).
I dont own either rig so my comment probably wont pertain fully to this comparison. But I have owned 2 arrma and 2 traxxas. The traxxas I never had to replace 1 part on either rig and both the arrma I swear I would run them a couple times and something would break. And half the time I had to wait for parts to be back in stock so they sat more than they ran. Once again, different vehicles than in the video, but I've had great luck with traxxas. And dont get me wrong, the arrma were a blast when they werent broke and I'd say they prob they had better handling than the traxxas but I'd go durability over performance but that's mostly cuz I get annoyed having to wait for parts haha great video though! I've actually been debating between the maxx or an arrma so it gave me a little insight on them.
What a great comparison~!!😄😃👍
In my opinion the maxx is better especially if you also get the widemaxx kit as it makes it wider reducing traction rolls and it lands better , but it is an additional 60$ ( 590$ ) ...
Hi man, i would like to know your thoughts on HOBAO RTR products. Please review the 1/8 Hyper VSE buggy or Hyper SS truggy. They sit at the same price point but have better value than Arrma and Traxxas "toys". This might interests other viewers too
Agreed, Hobao are awesome and deserve more air time
my first video was on the Hyper 10TT. Don't have any other Hobaos unfortunately.
I'm all about performance and a racer so I run LOSI but these are great for bashers !
You mean horizon, u run horizon 😆
rc player same thing
Now watch those dummies that said you were an arrma fanboy go flip flop and say you're a traxxas fanboy after the conclusion lol, I love my maxx too but sheesh that's a steep price, the xmaxx is my favorite rc of all time so i was instantly sold on it but they really should drop the price $30-50, there's a boat load of value in there but with the competition being nowhere near that much it'll probably be a hard sell for those who don't know what it's capable of
Left the hobby a long time ago got tired of things breaking everytime I took it out. Got back into it i chose to go with arrma notorious beat the crap out of it and it comes back everytime in working order. Then got a talion by arrma and same thing I bash and bash and it just takes it fast great handling no more will I go with the old guard brands
Have you had any steering issue with the 4s Kraton ?
Earl Moorhead the servo saver is weak IMO and needs to be upgraded. I also put in a slightly better servo.
Razor RC ok I got the 4s outcast and servo was bad out the box never ran and broken
Yes my servo keeps going out but i have a traxxas rustler vlx and i still love arrma kraton at the end of the day
In Canada, the Maxx is $800. The Kraton 4s is $539...huge price difference. I can buy slot of parts for almost 300 dollars. But I'm probably gonna get the Granite or BRCC Blx line of vehicles for $429. Already have 3s batteries for my Tenacity MT that died an early death.
Do chassis break on x maxx or they lot better than 4s outcast
Razor RC, what would you upgrade on the Arrma? Can you make $130 worth of upgrades to fix what breaks making them cost the same and improve the durability? What can be done to the Maxx to make it driveable on all surfaces and make it land better and stop rollover? How much are these upgrades?. You definitely have the best unbiased reviews! Thank you for your honesty!
RPM arms are more durable, but are bendy and will sag. Billet adjustable motor mount mostly fixes the weak cast one. But there are still other weaknesses, no metal centershaft (if you get a rock jammed in there it will shred), shocks are not double shear design, so you can't fix everything.
I think its going to be the same with a metal one my rustler was cheved everywhere while the one on my kraton almost doesnt have any wear a few scratshed next to where the heat sink sits
I love your videos, I'm a basher & racer, I listen to the race guys when it comes to setup. I have no comment on either truck as I've never owned either a 4S Arrma or TRX. I do own a Revo 2.0 & fully upgraded Arrma Notorious. The Revo I gave to my Step-son for his 14th birthday (it says on the box 14+😂). I gave it to him cause it's a good truck. Has diffs I wish I had, a good esc that I've never had problems with, has monster driveshafts, over twice the size outdrives (although they bend easier), and I upgraded it enough to be a solid truck. But it's not the beast my Arrma is. Now to be fair I spent a serious amount of money upgrading it, RPM A-Arms, skidplate, front bumper. m2c chassis, rear tower brace, ZRS shocks, motor mount. GKA chassis braces, Ackerman plate, Voltage Hobbies servo mount. JBI-6MM Towers. Hobbywing Max6 ESC, 4975 1650kv motor. Tekno shock perches/locking rod ends, pinion. Fast Eddy bearing kit. Anyways you get the point, basically the only thing left stock Arrma are the diffs, bulkheads, turnbuckles, driveshafts (although I converted the rear to CVDs), and plastics. I have so much left over I could build another truck😂. But I think that's what people love about the Arrma's, they use a pretty universally adopted layout. AE diff seals & shims work on them, Tekno parts work on them, not locked into a certain battery, doesn't have all the TRX exclusively. I can use many parts found on other vehicles that I can't on the Revo. That's why I don't have a 4S Arrma, they just aren't as "upgradable", and I think a lot of newcomers to the hobby see a TH-cam video of an Arrma going full send (or TRX) and see us all happy like they never break. All RCs break, I spend countless hours keeping up the maintenance on my RCs. I found the Arrma easier to work on, and that was the huge deciding factor. I remember buying the Revo after being out of the hobby for over a decade, a Kraton 6S was sitting right next to it. I looked at the Kraton and it looked flimsy to me. I bought the Revo, and after re-educating myself, I bought an Arrma for $150 less on sale so I'd have the best of both worlds. The Revo ended up sitting half the summer, I kept going back to the Arrma, it doesn't roll over (seems to be a problem on a lot of TRX vehicles), like I said easier to maintain, and ultimately I baby it less, and therefore have more fun. And isn't having fun the point! 😁
nice, thanks for sharing! I definitely need to get an Kraton 6S, that's high on my shopping list
Would a HW Program card or WiFi Express work with Arrma Electronics or is the firmware in house as well as the BLX branding?
the older LED program card will work, none of the other ones do.
I use a hw card from an Ace /1080 and with works great. Just need to find the code list (though it makes reasonable sense without it).
can you put the kraton 6s shocks on the 4s kraton or typhon shocks on it?
Yes you can.
The 6s typhon shocks are a perfect fit.
Have them on my outcast 4s.
But after upgrading the shocks and that awful stock stx2 radio /receiver and the slipperclutch it has cost me more money then the Traxxas maxx.
So in the end I would get more value for money if I went with the maxx instead for sure 😊👍
I agree with your conclusion. I have the 4s outcast shocks leak stripped rear diff just had to replace all the axles because they kept popping out. If you add style to your list arrma would win with style and price. Still not spent 130 bucks extra on the outcast but I'm sure I'm not done.
2 words too tight slipper clutch and you did not understand the concept of it
@@EXTREMERC416 I did and do but it would back off every run. I ended up putting an extra lock nut on it and that's fixed my issue.
One turn and a half backed out. Same was backing out everytime but since i used red locktite its justs a souvenir now
I.gotta be honest I'm a big fan of Traxxas, BUT I'm sure I would have a ton of fun with any other Quality R/C....they are all pretty awesome....
Since day one I run the maxx 4s till now, I fine that I like to fly my rustler4x4 Vxl more, caz is fly nice, easy to control in the air and it's light weight. For arrma vehicles, I will still hold back until they fix all the bud. cheetah I will give it fill more try if my parts is here, that's what I don't like about the cheetah and arrma vehicles , is the waiting of parts.😫
Does the maxx have a center diff?
I did read a lot of comments about arrma tough and arrma lower cost then the Traxxas but when you read carefully, people seemed to have put hundreds of dollars in upgrades for there arrma. So don’t tell me that the Maxx is the same price as the arrma 6s if you put 300-400$ and more in upgrades. From what I’ve seen, that Traxxas don’t need upgrades. And no! Plastic is not bad at all. And no! 6s power is not necessarily better. So all that been said and not really a fan of Traxxas outside the trx4, I think they did a really good job with the max. And remember it’s a monster truck, it’s not meant to perform at racing and cornering. Its built to be beaten. And I think it does perfectly. The kraton is at truggy, wich purpose is off-road performance and it does perfectly. Think about that, would you drift a f1? Don’t think so. So! And that is my tough, if you want to bash hard, get the max, if you want race performance, cornering and control, get the kraton. Cheers
I AGREEE MAN TRAXXAS TOUGH ARMA KEEPS PUTTING ALUMIN CHASSIS ON THERE HIGH PRICE MODELS LIKE USE PLASTICCCCCC plus the maxx 4s is the same speed as the kraton 6s so technically if you would upgrade a maxx to 6s you get like 80+ mph
@@skyshade9106the maxx 4s is also technically the same speed as the arrma granite 3s too. Top speed is a terrible way to compare offroad trucks
6s Kraton needs no mods besies a servo n that’s it. Had mine for over a year n beat the crap out of it. The 6s line needs no mores besides servo
THANKS 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
Just got the Maxx, it’s an awesome alternative to the super expensive Xmaxx for a super tough basher. Wheelies on demand even at pretty high speed. Also air control & rotation is really good while jumping. I gave up on ever owning a Kraton, can’t find any good sources of info, parts or support.
Sent the Maxx across my yard first time out, suspension is awesome. It’s like landing on a fat pillow, no slapping like my other cars.
just bottoms out stock out of the box needs shock tunning you are in grass of course it will feel like it lands on a pillow
Douglas Trimner How can you not find parts for the Kraton? You’re obviously using a computer to reply, use that same computer to find parts. It is not hard at all.
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18:10 - One thing you forgot to consider in the value equation is the parts and after-sale support. The $130 extra is what makes that superior parts & after-sale support possible.
To me, the bottom line here is that for the Arrma, it is less durable and you can't get parts. Yet it's still not light enough to race. That puts it in No-Man's Land. Why can't you get parts for months at a time? Because they're pumping out a production run in China every few months; can't just react to demand with that model. Traxxas probably pays more for parts production as a result.
I'm gonna look and see if I can find a Maxx vs. E-Revo 2.0 video.
My thoughts exactly. Parts are hugely important
This was a great video I just started my own channel.. younan videos like this is y
.....with the cost differential between the two, could that $150 or so saving on the Kreaton be used to upgrade it to a point where the durability was similar to the Maxx? Just a thought.
For the price of a maxx you could get a 6s kraton and not even worry about the wide kit.
@@Largetalons ....that’s what I meant. The choice seems to be durable+poor handling (Maxx) or great handling+less durable (Kraton).....but the Maxx and you spend time and money fixing the handling, or buy the Kraton and spend money fixing the durability issues.
I went with the Kraton v5 route, as I felt that the v5 had addressed many of the durability issues that had been shown up on the earlier versions. I nearly went for the EXB, but it looks like they have introduced some other durability issues into that model with the diffs.
@@dirtrider88 ...the above posts were from over a year ago. I ended up with the Kraton (for my son). Got to say it was much bigger & heavier than I thought it was going to be. Sadly, my son has not ended up playing with it that much which is a disappointment, but the product itself is impressive & nothing has broken yet, but that is a reflection of lack of use as much as anything.
No matter what ..the ARMA kicks serious azzz, best bang for the buck..hands down. the beating these particular truck are subjected too is NOT typical..even if YOU plan on 25 foot high and 50ft long jumps the Arma runs smoother, handles way better , ends up on the lid 80%less than the Maxx does (even in slower turning)..
Arma..you WILL NOT be disappointed!
What you mean ring pinion gears on kraton.Can you explain show us video all parts that you broke
The real comparison is between the Kraton 6s and the Maxx because the have a closer price point.
I look at it at the platform level.
When upgraded to a reasonable degree, how good is: durability, performance, ease of maintenance, parts support.
Using that line of reasoning, I personally agree with you and see better potential from the Maxx. But I can understand that others may disagree. Using that same line of reasoning is why I bought my 6S Kraton over the Erevo 2.0.
Yeah, if I HAD to buy one, it would be the Maxx. I had enough trouble out of the 4x4 platform to know it's nearing the end, unless it get a ton of upgrades. My E-revo 2.0 still has a busted rear diff. It was a jacked up mess when I bought it so I rebuilt it. I shimmed the hell out of that diff & the teeth still snapped. Still no 3rd party diffs for it either. My Kraton can take 5 times the abuse. The rear diff in my v3 lasted over a year before needing replacing. My v2 Outcast & Kraton still has their original shimmed diffs, & the Kraton is 3 yrs old.
revo 2.0 is a bad design, even maxx 4s not as good too, the maxx 4s is too heavy.
@@yyckey5022 My revo 1.0 ended up in pieces when a battery blew up in the tray. I got my 2.0 off a guy at my LHS for pocket change. He bought it in wondering how much it would cost to fix. It was in *slightly* better shape than my 1.0. The 2.0 is definitely 10x better than the 1.0 but it still has major flaws so I'll let it sit in the corner for now. I don't plan on having it as a money pit.
My Arrma Siren is 9.2lbs, my truggified Typhon is 9.4lbs, both run 6s all day & are nuts. The Maxx is nearly 10lbs. I gave it about 2 hrs of my time total since the LHS is right down from the job. It's just not in the same league. Those 2 cars are about the same size as the Maxx, made to handle 6s & are helluva tougher. I can't break the Siren if I wanted to. However, all it does is destroy bodies. It needs a Russian body but they look too ugly ATM. Maybe I should throw an Outcast 4s body at it & see how long it last.
@@Megasty15 The full sized 6S Outcast and Kraton are more than 11lbs, its a bruiser for bashing not racing like your buggy.
@@TheFatAssCat I actually tried racing the Typhon 6s, & got completely murdered. The Typhon has the same chassis & components as the Outcast, so it's way too heavy to keep up with Tekno & Losi 1/8 buggies geared to run on 3-4s. The dex8 can race a bit but it's a lb lighter. I'd rather throw big tires on it & bash the heck out of it.
He contradicts himself so much, here's an example: 10:54 "in the air the maxx is easier to control." "So in the air the kraton is better, it just is easier to control in the air"
Besides a few moments like these, overall good review 👍
That was a little contradictory, here’s the full explanation - the Maxx rotates slower and does not do anything weird, and is easier for a less experienced driver to “control”. The Kraton flies through the air better, like a buggy would, so would perform better say on a racetrack. It is capable of doing things that the Maxx cannot in the hands of a good driver.
The maxx feels like it doesnt even have shocks it just bottoms out like mad i can just ear the massive slaping when it jumps
It needs heavier shock oil out of the box. I've found the tire foam also compresses very easily which essentially means that from any sizable jump it compresses and just results in chassis slap.
Even with 100wt shock fluid I had chassis slap. So I had to change tires. Drive's much better with the Maxx Chevron tires from the original Erevo/Emaxx
I like both companies a lot and have some from both but I will have to say better bang for your buck going with the arrma 6s over the maxx
ESP when the 6s arrma is the same price as the maxx
@@anthonybarlow7658 it is
@@anthonybarlow7658 I'd rather my chassis didn't bend on the first jump.
Does Traxxas ever have Black Friday deals or anything? 😅 the Maxx with a wide kit and steel driveshafts is my wet dream but the price tag on that setup (new) is over 700$
No, they have MAP pricing, the best you can do is hope a hobby store has some kind of deal.
Arrma for the money for sure. If the maxx was exact same price would be different story but 150 bucks more uhg.
what battery would you recommend for the Kraton?
Lipo
@@d-nice2866 He was asking for a specific battery...
Spektrum smart batteries are what is recommended.
You forgot to mention the cost of replacement parts, the kraton parts are extremely expensive and it breaks alot more so it's definitely a more costly rc
why did you not compare the Kraton 6s and the Maxx they are the same price 550 USD. I feel that this is unfair because the 4s Kraton compares to the stampede 4x4.
I do comparisons based on vehicle class, not price. The Maxx and Kraton 4S are both 4S, 12.8" wheelbase plastic monster trucks. They are the same size, have the same motor/power, and same Lipo capability.
The Stampede is a totally different vehicle, it's a 10.7" wheelbase, 2-3S monster truck, much smaller and less capable. Similarly, the Kraton 6S is a much bigger, all aluminum, 14.8" wheelbase 6S capable truck.
@@RazorRC ah I guess that makes sense. I was going off of pice points and was so confused why you picked the 4s model
It probably should go off of price when the difference is that big. A lot of people look at what they can get for their money vs. caring about a specific wheelbase. At the end of the day these all get bashed the same.
Will the traxxas transmitter and receiver work In the arrma.
yes
how awsome would it be to have a arrma kraton the size of a X MAXX i'm waiting arrma.
On Kevin Talbots channel
8s Kraton or X-Maxx - Which RC Car should you buy?
I did have a losi st 2 and after one run it was trash couldn't find parts or a diagram since it was so new,everybody has problems nit just traxxas
i brought a brand new Arrma Kraton v4 6s 1/8 scale for 480.00. the 1/10 4s Traxxas Maxx was 530.00 .Tell me which one is better? Traxxas need to get real , there wayyy over priced.
The Maxx is a way better truck with out a doubt obviously. if money is a factor then go with the Arrma. I have the kraton 6s and xmaxx 8s . Which I love both but my next truck is the Maxx . And then maybe 8s kraton
10:19 - If you don't stop blipping the throttle over and over to drive at low speed, rather than operating the throttle smoothly, I am going to take away your toys until you learn how to use them properly.
Also, it seems implausible to me that you owned an Arrma Granite and yet you're surprised that Arrma's brittle plastics break so easily. Say what you will about Traxxas using plastic parts where other manufacturers would use metal parts, but at least Traxxas specs high-quality plastics for their vehicles. (yes yes, except for the horrible front caster blocks on their old RWD trucks, we all know about that problem in 2019, but it doesn't apply to their new designs.)
Shawn Elliott sensorless motors cog at about 1-2mph, so you can’t just sit there at 2% throttle, it will stutter. The reason the Kraton arms break more than the Granite is due to them being 1-inch longer and with wider wheels with the same amount of width material at the hinge pin. Leverage.
@@RazorRC - You were blipping the throttle to at least 25%, over and over, even after the truck was moving. Anyway, stuttering depends on the quality of the ESC. SkyRC's ESCs increase their PWM frequency at very low speed which almost completely eliminates stuttering, a very nice feature to have. I'm giving you a hard time about this, but from what I can tell most RCers (on youtube anyway) have the same problem and it's extremely aggravating to listen to -- especially if the vehicle is nitro-powered. It's like how a little kid drives a RC.
Tell me about the shitty 3s driveshafts of the traxxas lineup i dont call those gabarge sticks quality
And their junk escs specially the 6s and 8s
Maybe you should watch some of my other driving videos to see if you still feel the same way about my driving. th-cam.com/video/eK2WxMc0A0E/w-d-xo.html