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- You guys have been asking me to do a comparison of the Traxxas Maxx and the ARRMA Kraton 4S and I've been trying really hard. I've shot this video 2 times now trying to get it for you, but the sun went down too fast the first night and the second time the GoPro froze up mid-comparison (which is a bummer because it had lots of backflips and front flips). By the time I got back out after fixing the Maxx, it was dark. I pressed on because I know that it's going to get harder and harder to get footage with the time change. I apologize that the end is rushed and dark. More comparisons will be coming, don't you worry.
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Your front wheels are backwards
Better traction. I do the same thing.
That was awesome man 👍🏻 Good honest tests of both trucks . I could watch loads of these types of videos pitting two similar rc's against each other .
That is a nice one to one comparison. I wish there were more videos like this. Thank you!
Good comparisons Tony. Thank you!!!
Had about the same experience with the Maxx. The shocks aren't set up very well stock. I upgraded to 80w shock oil and it helps a lot. I have also found its just as fast as a Kraton 4s on 3s and it handles sooo much better. The 4s makes it to jumpy and is honestly overkill. As for the Kraton I hate the stock radio. So much delay. Great test. Very accurate.
Nice video Tony great job of showing the versitility of 4s monster trucks and 4s truggy I own the Maxx but I like them both for sure
Tiiigerr uppercut ! 😂👍 great vid - for me it would be the Kraton if money matters and if this won’t be any issue, both !
"That there's an RV Clark. Now you don't go fallin' in love with it, cause we're takin' it with us when we leave next month!"
Haha! I quote that all the time when we roll up in that old beast.
Love that movie
I own the Kraton too , great job Tony for the handling comparison of the two trucks , nice.
Great comparisons I like both RCs
Awesome comparison brother ✌🤙
They both look pretty damn awesome so far,,, Nice work tony.. :P
Fantastic control fella :-) Great Vid
I wish i would have such a huge backyard too ... Nice vid!
They totally look different traxxas looks like a heavy tank but a monster truck style and the arrma looks more like a stadium truggy type hard to compare when they are so much different. Nice video Tony.
Then the Outcast is the comp you want...
Sweet comparison👍👍 I will go with the kraton all day in my opinion😁
Big mistake. Parts hard to find
Loving this one thanks for sharing very important information giving thanks blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work just go for the one you could afford both are good trucks some are true traxx fans others are arama very strong and fast I'll take the arma because of the price and the upgrades are very reasonable 🙏🙏🙏🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲💪💪💪
@CCxRC Have you thought of maybe doing a "how-to" video on kraton 4s? Maybe like how to remove the differentials. There are literally none anywhere. I just recently bought a kraton 4s and was surprised at the lack of how-to info there is for the 4s model. I think it would be extremely helpful and popular. Anyway love the channel and the content keep it up.
Thanks for the VID. Your content is great. Both great machines. Could you adjust Maxx steering end points? Maybe tone it down.
Great comparison
The two 4S kings right now.
Anyone would be lucky to have either!
Roadside RC truth! They both have strongpoints, so it comes down to what you want it to do and how much you are willing to pay.
Mark Bigham how’s your Maxx holding up? Any good upgrades you’d recommend? Debating on widemaxxing and getting steel driveshafts or not
Awesome! I just purchased a dhk Maximus and hope it’s a good starter. It was between these 2 and the Maximus .
I just scored a Maxx for 600 never been driven has wide kit new tires aluminum hexes bt module metal cvd axlesTraxxas tool kit 2 chargers 3 lipos an lipo bag an few other upgrades. Did I say never been driven? It's a guy I work with got into the hobby an sold them all. I think I scored big time.
Great video, thanks for making. Seems like the Maxx is rolling over quite a lot!!! That would drive me nuts! It's difficult to decide between them both.
It's definitely a tough decision to make.
Just get the wide kit.
@@CCxRC wide arm kit for the maxx helps alot
4 YEARS LATER...AFTER SOME USE. IS TRAXXAS OR ARRMA MADE BETTER@@CCxRC
Are you using the stock transmitter with the arrma or did you have to replace it
Cool video! Maxx rolls alot, but looks very durable 👍 Kraton is cheaper, just depends on what ya want
Kraton shocks leak, bad controller, not as strong as traxxas, not many features, and etc. I'm going with the traxxas
Ikr
Good car . And nice place 👍🏻
I'm planning on getting the kraton 4s and upgrading the rpms, servo, and controller
Upgrade the truck too
@@ramtrucks721 Lol why?Is so bad?
I like the black ramps! What are they and where can we get them?
At the end of the month you can do it again with the 8S versions (fingers crossed)
Did you change the shock oil in the traxxas ?
For the price of the Maxx you can get a V4 Kraton 6s which is what I just did. If the Maxx had a longer wheel base like the big rock 3s I would have to consider getting one.
Hey Tony check out Kevin Talbot's cheap selfie stick end glued on controller I have mine done this way record with my phone works great
Great Scott! Good content and especially on the live conspiracies vids! I just got through with a Maxx and Kraton 6s bash vid too. They are both VERY fun to drive
is the punch control all the way up on the kraton? in the video it also sounds like the slipper is too loose but that might be the gear mesh. i have the senton 3s blx and it will wheelie on demand if the punch control is on 5 but it wont if its on the stock 3 setting and seems slower too. i agree the steering isnt good on the senton either, it just doesnt steer very sharp. i really like that maxx. heavier shock oil will fix the bounciness.
The slipper was too loose. I had tightened it, but not as much as I thought.
Seems Traxxas kind of new the maxx would flip a lot by putting in the self righting feature. The maxx just seems like its a little off all of the time. The Aarma looks very stable and with the RPM arms seems like it is almost as bulletproof as the maxx. I have been following along with these comparisons as i am in the market for basher, and it is a really tough choice hehe. Great video 👍👍👍👍👍
@1:14min i notice that the profile on the front tires are oposite of the rear tires. is that on purpose or did you mistakenly put LF on RF and vice verca? on the kraton that is
they were on backwards because I had just replaced the a-arm and was rushing to get out and make the video. Didn't realize that it went on backwards
Wow nice
Great video for me what I see is the maxx want to power around the turns with the right turning radius and the Kraton seems to want to brake and slide because steering not as good I’d like to see a width comparison and a body height comparison would be awesome !and your right totally different driving styles for these two rc great job🔥🔥👍👍💪💪
Tight turning radius not right turning lol 😂
Can easily be improved by better tires idk why arrma gave it those meh minikawas should have come with the tires of the outcast 4s mine turns reslly well now
@@EXTREMERC416 you can't improve the turning radius by better tires, you have to mod the entire steering geometry.
@logitechz3 Sorry but i did the stock tires dont grip almost st all on loosen dirt causing understeer at times. Also running 30k fluid in the front and has improved a lot the handling of the truck also running 40wt oil on the shocks
Also the stock servo saver is meh
Just asking, were the Kraton front wheels on backwards? The MAXX now has wider A-arms, it won't roll as easy.
Yes. I had just done a video showing how to change the lower arms to RPM. Then accidentally put them on backwards and went a ran. Flipped them right after the run. I have the wide arms....another $60 on an already expensive truck...but it still rolls too easy.
@@CCxRC do you think if the shocks were more plush on the maxx that it wouldn't roll as much? Whenever i see a maxx on a video the shocks seem to look firm
Have you tightened the suspension yet
Hi there
Just 3 question, please
what about lIPO temperature, issues or stress ?
time runnning light bash sesion ? (skate park) f eg
and mAh battery capacity?
sorry my english, maybe you explined it but my listening is very poor :-(
Thanks a lot
ok for me I use 5000 mah Lipo runs 15-30 minutes depending on how I drive
Lipo temp doesn’t get hot
@@dirtbiketoofast2959 Finally I have bought it and I use a 5 Ah lipo 3s and.. another 3s lipo 2200mAh between the rear wing and the plastic wheel, in parallel of course , it helps to wheelies and helps lipo temps decrease, thanks!!!
You get a Like just for the Streetfighter thumbnail!
Razor RC haha. You got one on your video yesterday from me for the great content.
I’ve annoyingly been trying to finish this for over a week and have been having nothing but issues with the recording side.
CCxRC Thanks. People don’t know what we go through! Did you already try updating the firmware?
Nice head to head bash Tony 👍🏻👍🏻. I'd be willing to bet you'd like the Kraton even more with a different radio system. That gives me an idea....
You could try swapping radio systems on these two. That would give the TSM advantage to the Kraton and also allow you to possibly tighten up the turning radius using the end point adjustment. It would also expose the STX2 system's issues outside of the ARRMA electronics, and also showcase how the Maxx would fare using a non-TRX system. Just a thought! I believe these Horizon-branded ARRMAs are handcuffed by a sub-par radio system in terms of crispness and reaction. Just my $.02
RedBeard RC Dumborc for about 30$, has a built in gyro for stability and way better response and twice as far reception. Almost a no brainer
I’m looking at getting one , first time buyer.i like the Traxxas Max, is Arma Kraton a better starter for me, I know they are less expensive but is drive train plastic? or are they all upgradable. Thanks
I honestly like my Big Rock more than my Kraton. But they all have plastic out drives. The Arrma have plastic center driveshafts, but I’ve never had an issue with one. I recently donated both these trucks to a boys camp because I choose my big rock for the bashing I would’ve done with either of these.
@@CCxRC ok, I’m heading to hobby RC shop to look around and ask some more questions, thank you
Why do people find the need to compare apples to oranges? These trucks are completely different, one is a Truggy and one is a Monster Truck. First off, you don't put the Maxx in the air with TSM on, rookie move. Notice the TSM causing the MAXX to wobble in the air. TSM doesn't understand pitch, yaw or roll. TSM is meant for high speed, keeping the vehicle as straight as possible when tire(s) loose traction on its X axis only. The only thing I would compare is how horrible the stock Tx is on the Kraton 4s, range and delay. Battery life at least 25% less runtime on the Kraton 4s with the same capacity 4S battery. Durability, Maxx hands down. Speed, Maxx hands down. I would assume the Traxxas Max 4s is more expensive because of the better Tx, engineering, electronics and durability. (Pro Tip - If you get the Bluetooth module for the TQi Tx, you can tweak the steering/throttle sensitivities and power percentages) to match the Kraton and oh look, doesn't roll over at speed the same as before, who knew!) Yes the TRaxxas Maxx 4s is more expensive although. Same goes, if you want an iPhone, you don't settle for a Android.
Agree with everything except the iPhone bit at the end.... android is like the maxx. More capable and customizable to suit your needs and has hundreds of options for devices. IPhone is iphone. Restrictions and roadblocks.
Im not a Traxxas basher fan I love my Arma bashers 1/7 6s rtr Krayton blue, 1/10 4s rtr Granite green and a 1/10 4s rtr Bigrock black, lol looks like the max is a rollover rig lol 😉 great video Tony thanks 😎👍
I'm guessing after maxx Traxxas' going to patent the "rollover" so they are free to sue every vehicle which rolls over. Do it Traxxas way baby.. lol
Now this is funny!
Lol..... Right it's the capitalist way!
If they invent something why not patent it? Are u people stupid?
Ace s ah yes, patent something that has been around for years and call it yours, then sue your competitors....
Go with the Arrma for sure especially for the price!
I personally have a 4s kraton, I really recommend getting the tbone racing bumper, I have one and it works waaay better than the stock one.
Good to know!
Any problems with the slipper clutch boys? I hear a lot of people have problems with it loosening itself up
@@jarrettmaltry6305 yes
to me it seems like the difference is mainly the truggy vs the monster truck form factor. I think the instability of a taller truck can be fun and desirable.
Maybe some heavier shock oil would help the bounce on landing in the Maxx
can you compare this to the outcaast 4s?
Nice runs Tone..I have maxx..sold my 4s kraton..I think Maxx quite overpriced at 529 but I got one anyway. New UDR is 729 with lights installed..didnt know if u knew. Philly
Maxx is tricky to handle in the air as a touch too much brake and it wants to front flip. That said in your video it seems to land more 'solidly' than the Kraton 4S, which sounds very lightweight on landing, if that makes sense. Maxx proving quite tough, my first video over the jumps out tomorrow.
you think the maxx landed better???? did you not see how many times and how much the maxx bounced on landings? half the time it bounced on to its lid after landing
Good job brother.. Kraton handles like a Sports Car and Maxx handles like a Van but very durable though :)
He even said that the max turns tighter so what do you mean the max is going to roll easer it's got higher senter of gravity
Could you swap the tires? The Arrma has a less aggressive tread that might keep the Maxx from rolling, and with the more aggressive Maxx tread the Arrma might pull wheelies better. From watching, the Arrma does appear to have a little better out of the box suspension tuning.
the arrma also has sway bars and is wider and i believe is lower also.
Would be interesting to see if you could get the same tires on both of these vehicles. Looked like the tires on the Maxx are a lot more grippy on those surfaces and the ones on the kraton slide more allowing you the slide those corners and not want to roll as much.
the arrma also has sway bars and is wider and i believe is lower also.
Is the tsm possibly messing with the truck causing it to flip in the turns I’m curious?
No. It’s the tall narrow design.
@@CCxRC Got ya
I would lean more towards the turn radius, which can be adjusted in the Traxxas Link app. Once you set it to the same radius as the Kraton you will notice a much similar experience.
Great bashing Tony! Love the comparison. The Maxx looks like a solid rig but seems to need some tuning and maybe some widening to perform better. It's a tank. The Kraton seems like a solid performer in handling and in the air but it is a monster truggy. As for the GoPro Hero 7 Black, been there too. Part of the reason I film with so many cameras😂 My DJI Action is starting to turn into my go to action cam. Check it out. Maybe on your short XMas list.
Ready Set RC thanks for the tip on the DJI Action! I do like the hypersmooth on this, but the lockup’s are annoying.
@@CCxRC I'll tell you this, the RockSteady in the DJI is even better.
What do u recomend?
Out of these two, it all depends. One truck has proprietary parts and electronics while the other uses spektrum electronics. The Kraton 4s is relatively cheaper in price which allows to upgrade parts like: wheel/tires, servo, extra batteries for the price of a stock Maxx w battery/charger.
Monster Truck vs Truggy !
Kraton has a lower center of gravity that's it. Maxx is a much better looking truck. Kraton looks like someone stepped on it
Haha. If I was buying one of those for my 5yr old I would buy the Kraton. 150$ cheaper with a 2yr warranty!. Yeah no brainer.
The Kraton is also wider so it is less pron to rolling over.
You could get the wide maxx kit
I washed my hands from the Kraton a long time ago. Give me the body, you can keep the rest of the car. As for the Maxx, I have to deal enough with the things I work with handling like dump trucks with a ton of steering, seriously I'm riding around in a LLV (if you know what that is, you know what I'm doing 😋) & it handles just like the Maxx. So why in the hell would I bring one home with me.
😂😂😂 now that’s a funny reply right there. Understood
Just don't make any U turns while in your LLV!
@@xxSuperDave Very funny, my main route has 16 U-turns & 7 3-pt turns.
Maxx squirlyness is caused by the TSM when it corrects mid air. Try turning it off or down when jumping.
Not indestructible I got a rock stuck in the inside of my maxx wheel before the first battery was finished and it snapped the universal joint on the cv shaft so something to watch when doing doughnuts in larger rocks
Damn man that friggin Maxx is a flip over truck I have to put monster tape all over the sides or else the body will be gone and torn up ! I drive mostly on road but I’ve tried lowering the shocks and widening it but no luck same shit .
I like the maxx
Just fyi your front tires are on backwards thats why the steering might not feel as sharp i did same thing on mine before
14 days to go !!!!!!!!!!! 😃😉
Oh yeah!!!. Cant wait!
I’m gonna get the maxx I like the looks and it’s very tough. The arenas are fragile and require upgrades out of the box
Both need new arms. The RPM fir the ARRMA’s is like $25. The wide kit for the Maxx is $60 and I think it’s necessary. Both are good, but I gave both away to a charity after getting my Big Rock Crew Cab. I just prefer how it drives. It’s just as fast on only 3s.
@@CCxRC I am considering the maxx only because I have a senton and a outcast 4s and I love the looks and wheelies thank you for the reply btw
Was this the widemaxx v2?
No. It was the original max without the wide kit
@@CCxRC gotcha. It HUNG in ther really good!
Great vid but your kratons front wheels are wrong way round lol
Haha. You are right. I was rushing to change the arms on video. That’s a video I’m working on also. Lol.
@@CCxRC just replaced the back arms on mine for rpm
First outing no jumps or anything just along gravel an arm broke but been out since an it took a beating no problem, fronts yet to change there on the bench lol
Traction on the Kraton tires are pretty poor. Upgrading those gets closer to the & 530 point, but dramatically changes the truck.
Tony are your front wheels on backwards?? Great video! 👌
Chris Watson sure were
was the punch turned all the way up on Kraton ? dont look like it. you get the quick punch turn it all the way up.
No. I had both set exactly how they came out of the box. Turned out that my end points weren't se right out of the box. When I set the throttle end points, I got a lot more punch without adjusting the ESC Punch.
Can U do krston8s vs dblx2.0
The Maxx sounds so much better in comparison to the Kraton.
Me personally,? I have the Arrma big rock modified,,and I had the same roll over problem you have with your Maxx.Just widen it the best you can and it will perform almost as well as the Kraton.
Turn tsm off in high traction areas....nice video tho!!😏😎
Nice comparison bro. But wouldn't the Outcast 6s be a closer comparison to the Maxx 4s since since the Outcast is also a MT?
no, Outcast is truggy too. I would like o see Arrma MT
Jeez so to be a monster truck u need a hugh center graavity chassi?
You should be comparing the traxxas maxx v4 to a kraton 6s since they are the same price, and for that money i'm buying a 6s ;p
Hi Tony. What is your honest opinion on who’s First and Second. And Why. Thanks James. I kinda like both. Lol if they can combine both into one... Ohhh Holy Hell! Now that would be the Cats Ass.
How about putting the Kraton tires on the right way..
What is your punch level set at on kraton
Punch was at 2 in this video. I had tightened the slipper the whole way and then backed it off 1/4 a turn. But I don’t want it to wheelie all the time like the Maxx.
@@CCxRC been on the fence about a xmaxx an the dbxle can get new in box from Larry's rc the dbxl for 530$ getting rid of old stock for new rigs coming or a new in box xmaxx for 700$ think jus guna go with the tried an Tru xmaxx what's your thoughts
Matt Moran oh man. Both are awesome. Loved my DBXLE. I sold it a month or two ago to help pay for my Sprint car
Depends if you want to do super big air jumps. If so...x-Maxx. For everything else...I loved the Losi.
@@CCxRC jus some hard to normal bahing
Witch one faster
maxx
No tug of war good comparison, one overpriced other bad remote other that excellent rcs imo..
In my opinion i like the kraton totally due
to price its 600.00 stock then its 60 bucks for the widening kit then you have to drop a 100.00 for the steel axles for the widening kit now keep in mind these 2 upgrades are required straight out of the box so it stops rolling over all the time i feel like traxxax should do these upgrades at the factory but anyway by the time you spent all of that you might as well just buy the xmaxx
My OCD says fix those damn tires they're going the wrong way
I did. I was rushing a fix I did on video to get out and do the run. Saw it right after and changed it back.
I think the wd40 is causing pin to pull out??
Arrmaaa killing it rn
Jus got my kraton 4s ... which was 100 less then the rustler 4x4 ...its bigger , faster , cheaper and very enjoyable for those men that are kids at heart
@@johnathankito7655 . Not true, Kevin Talbot has said it weak
And parts are hard to find. Good job wasting your money
Well i owned a rustler n its not as beast as arrma so idgaf wat kevin says lol.... u ever heard of amazon n local hobby shops.... i buy upgrades n extra parts all the time ... so idk where ur from
Traxxass stock parts are weak ...
You need the wide arm kit
Throttle management is gonna be different.
Your tired on the kraton are mounted on the wrong sides,look at the arrows pattern the point towards forward,does make a difference offroad
They were on backwards because I had done a quick how to replace the arms video right before. Didn’t catch it until then end. Still handled better than the Maxx with the wheels backwards, but the grass provides a lot of traction so it wouldn’t be noticeable and wasn’t worth reshooting the video...also because the Maxx was done for the day.
who is the winner?
$130 difference buys a few upgrades that would make the kraton even better. I wonder if the slower radio is the reason why the maxx seems like it jumps on take off and the kraton doesn't
I have the granite it's one tough truck
It's the jump it's just a jump of dirt,if I had that yard I'd build a sick jump
I have a sick jump...the send it ramp. The other one was more for my boys to hit with their short course trucks if I put out the pipes and make lanes. Plans for more dirt to come in the future but I have to wait for some other septic issues to be resolved first.