That looks incredibly fiddly. Looks like a lot of compromise for "tool less". The parts count, especially small parts count is crazy high for this solution. Also, that is a perfectly clean assembly. I'd like to see how things disassemble and reassemble after hours and hours of printing and the inevitable burnt plastic buildup. I would prefer a balance between needing a tool and not, I don't mind tools for certain things.. I'm more excited about the Revo, even after seeing this, especially with the single nozzle/heatbreak solution.
Compare to the mosquito hot end, with a 1.4mm thread for 2 screws, there is no screw there as it says tool free. And how many parts are in the mosquito? Little more, no?
There are no more parts than a standard heat break? Not more steps to assemble. No tiny screws to drop and lose and less hands are required. I don't think you properly analyzed the system here.
OMG ... I'd prefer needing multiple tools over all those complex steps. That said, the E3D Revo nozzle + heater sound much more tool- and hassle-free. Can't wait for it to become available to mortals like myself ...
@@artvisuel1864 Weird, all reviews I've seen of the Revo showed it having much higher max flow than other normal (as in non-volcano) hotends thanks to BETTER heating distribution with the circular heater. Just look for reviews of it here on TH-cam. So, I wonder where your info is coming from? Of course, its heating block is smaller and hence has less thermal mass, but still the tests showed better flow despite also the power output of the Revo heater being lower. Now, the thermistor in the Revo should also be more close to both the filament and the heating element than in other blocks, so it could be that for that reason in a normal block the thermistor would actual measure a lower temperature than the heater is actually supplying to the filament and conversely that you need to set a lower target tenperatuee than what you actually want the fillament to get, whereas in the Revo those should be much closer ... Who knows? Anyhow, just no longer having a risk of leakage between nozzle and heatbreak (as they are one) and having truely full-metal and hence suited for higher temps, would outweigh the need for 10C higher in my book (and that's if it's true).
@@MisterkeTube the information comes from a beta tester of the revo, he needed more tuning and higher temps to do the same job. What you don't see is also that the heat block has play between the nozzle central part, over 2/10mm, meaning contact is principalement touching the horizontal flat part between heat block and nozzle. Factors not to neglect. We will see over time.
That looks great, innovative design and tapered nozzle so easy to install, much better for thermal efficiency. The heat break tube is interesting, no more strength to tighten all parts and probably no more blobs with this solution. Would give it a try.
Been waiting for something like this since probably 2015. I had pictured something like a bicycle quick release seat post or wheel but this seems like it would work better. Very strange nozzle almost like a reverse CAT taper. Seems like the cat taper using a pull stud could be used but filament would then be off center then indexing would be needed to align the filament holes.
Can someone please tell me where I can get this? I just had a really big problem with my hot end and had to replace the whole thing, this would save me so much time in the future.
but why? it'S not like before special tools were requied, just some really basic things ... this seems to be a solution for a problem not existing. sorry man ...
There are a few advantages getting rid of the threaded nozzle, removing the risk of tightening the nozzle too much (breaking the nozzle) or not tightening it enough (getting a leak)
That looks incredibly fiddly. Looks like a lot of compromise for "tool less". The parts count, especially small parts count is crazy high for this solution. Also, that is a perfectly clean assembly. I'd like to see how things disassemble and reassemble after hours and hours of printing and the inevitable burnt plastic buildup. I would prefer a balance between needing a tool and not, I don't mind tools for certain things.. I'm more excited about the Revo, even after seeing this, especially with the single nozzle/heatbreak solution.
Compare to the mosquito hot end, with a 1.4mm thread for 2 screws, there is no screw there as it says tool free. And how many parts are in the mosquito? Little more, no?
That's what I was thinking. Plus it's not like you won't have tools around for your 3d printer. It's cool but ultimately useless imo
There are no more parts than a standard heat break? Not more steps to assemble. No tiny screws to drop and lose and less hands are required. I don't think you properly analyzed the system here.
Heatbreak supports? SLICE HAS ENTERED THE CHAT.
OMG ... I'd prefer needing multiple tools over all those complex steps. That said, the E3D Revo nozzle + heater sound much more tool- and hassle-free. Can't wait for it to become available to mortals like myself ...
Those complex steps only need to be done once, mounting the parts together. Then should be a simple quick insert & locking step
No need to wait until the nozzle cools down. I heard the revo needs over 10% heat increase to have the same efficiency as the V6
@@artvisuel1864 Weird, all reviews I've seen of the Revo showed it having much higher max flow than other normal (as in non-volcano) hotends thanks to BETTER heating distribution with the circular heater. Just look for reviews of it here on TH-cam. So, I wonder where your info is coming from? Of course, its heating block is smaller and hence has less thermal mass, but still the tests showed better flow despite also the power output of the Revo heater being lower. Now, the thermistor in the Revo should also be more close to both the filament and the heating element than in other blocks, so it could be that for that reason in a normal block the thermistor would actual measure a lower temperature than the heater is actually supplying to the filament and conversely that you need to set a lower target tenperatuee than what you actually want the fillament to get, whereas in the Revo those should be much closer ... Who knows? Anyhow, just no longer having a risk of leakage between nozzle and heatbreak (as they are one) and having truely full-metal and hence suited for higher temps, would outweigh the need for 10C higher in my book (and that's if it's true).
@@MisterkeTube the information comes from a beta tester of the revo, he needed more tuning and higher temps to do the same job. What you don't see is also that the heat block has play between the nozzle central part, over 2/10mm, meaning contact is principalement touching the horizontal flat part between heat block and nozzle. Factors not to neglect. We will see over time.
Talk about looking for problems where there aren't any.
Which hotend is this?
Is it just me or are the tools required ones a bit easier?
I expected the Revo, but this is also cool
This is a solution in search of a problem
What is a connector used? It looks amazing - one for whole hotend
That looks great, innovative design and tapered nozzle so easy to install, much better for thermal efficiency. The heat break tube is interesting, no more strength to tighten all parts and probably no more blobs with this solution. Would give it a try.
Nice one 😃
I have always thought the nozzle and heat break should be tapered tubes, and not threaded. I would like to see the details.
This basically includes its own tool and is so overly complex Im not sure it really got the point of the assignment.
That looks so fiddly, that I would rather just use tools...
Been waiting for something like this since probably 2015. I had pictured something like a bicycle quick release seat post or wheel but this seems like it would work better. Very strange nozzle almost like a reverse CAT taper. Seems like the cat taper using a pull stud could be used but filament would then be off center then indexing would be needed to align the filament holes.
Quick and easy. Now for some printing...
Very nice like this a lot 🙏
Can someone please tell me where I can get this? I just had a really big problem with my hot end and had to replace the whole thing, this would save me so much time in the future.
Keeping us in suspense, are you?
now do it hot
Why? Just wait for it to cool down Einstein
now try to do this with heated hotend
But you clearly aren’t meant to
How does it compare to the E3D Revo?
Better heat performance with the tapered nozzle? Hot or cold change as you don't need to touch the hot part?
Looks like the MicroSwiss logo
but why? it'S not like before special tools were requied, just some really basic things ... this seems to be a solution for a problem not existing. sorry man ...
There are a few advantages getting rid of the threaded nozzle, removing the risk of tightening the nozzle too much (breaking the nozzle) or not tightening it enough (getting a leak)
Yeh I don’t think stuff is automatically better just as it’s tool less😂
The main benefits come from being threadless rather than tool less