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IMHO- This is a victim mindset that many Indians have.. While it is true that many discoveries are not Indian Clearly we can see in ancient temples the evolution of beings as depicted by Vishnu avatars and Ayurveda and scripts of Aryabhatta pre-dates modern discoveries.. What you are alleging abt our own holds for your comment too - alleging without any proof they didn't discoveries these which are covered as part of the video
See, this is what is wrong with how we take the age old stories and anecdotes told to us. There is nothing wrong with drawing parallels between what is scientifically being proven and what these stories say. It is just here that we realize that these stories also hinted at such scientific parallels all along. If we really pay attention and not just be the "believers" but also the "seekers" in the true sense, we may appreciate these works better.
So, everything we have in the past/modern world-from cars, microchips, to discovering materials, to AI to nanotechnology, and beyond-isn’t just limited to technology, engineering, and science. It encompasses all aspects of human development. If India had been 3,000 years ahead, all these and many more of human innovation and understanding of advancements would have originated India - but have largely not. Infact cinsider how many Nobal prizes has India which has a population of pver 1.4 billion people?
Scenic was there but it needs technology to invent and prove. From year 950 -1425 Muslims contributed in a great deal but there is no invention in that era . Number, addition of Zero, Arithmetic, Fraction are from India . Based on this other contributed and took it further. Than Greeks added something like pythogirus This is written in Modern books of Mathematics and science
You forgot to mention about The Surya Siddhanta. It is more than 7000 years old scripture. It has the astronomical calculation along with geometry and trigonometry. It is astonising. The mahabharata has more than 2000 shlokas where time is mentioned as celestial positions. How did you consider Al-Biruni's comment as standard.
There is lots of cool stuff we have that I didn't mention: that list would be quite long. The ones I mentioned were just supposed to be illustrative examples. And I don't know what you mean by "consider Al-Biruni's comment as standard": I believe it to be largely true based on what I see around myself now (and what I understand of our ancient texts). That's my opinion (not a "standard"). -@Navin
Wrong and wrong.. Rama and Krishna are not mentioned in the earliest Mandalas which mainly contain the Rshis thoughts and descriptions of nature... Krishna references added to the Vedas later. Eg. The Purusha Sukta
@@prasvasu4217 Still does not fully negate the OP's point as to the earliest vedas pre-dates Rama and Krishna Purusha sookta could have been a later addition
Dude 😂 Atharva Veda depicts about krishna. This is the example of "half knowledge is always dangerous". I know Vedas are way older than incarnations as Krishna tells Arjuna to follow Vedas in Gita.,🤷🏻♂️Now don't tell me you don't know about Atharva Veda.
Most of it is a good dialogue but there are some bloopers, like claim that, Arya Bhat calculated the circumference of the earth. Hello discovered that the earth is spherical and its rotation in its axis in a day. But the circumference of earth was for first measured by the Eratosthenese in the second century BC.
How do you connect the dots, do you know exactly how much would have been lost in the Nalanda and all other temples we lost a lot of historical places and temples
One of the very few channels which talks sense without any propaganda… just pure truth..this is the very need of the hour in today’s world where everyone is biased
8th and 9th Avatar are Krishna and Balaram. Initial life of Krishna represents human control over animals through Animal Husbandary (Shepherd culture), while Balaram represents human control over agriculture (Farming culture). Krishna also later morphs into a Statesman due to involvement of Politics of City States. Buddha was added to the list later to counter the Buddhist influence. But the Buddist threat of put down by Shankaracharya.
No no brother Buddha is 9th You will found the Jain tirthankara Rishavadeva as one of the avataras of vishnu. 😅😅 We gave space too all of them ❤❤ how big hearted where those people with our slutering and persicution we make one
@@LifeOn_Camera Agreed. But those will not be part of the Dashavatars. There is a seperate set of 24 avatars described in the Bhagwat Puran. We also have to understand is that over time different Rishis of Sanatana Dharma brought in new knowledge and new practices to our religion. So, there was a time when all Hindus follow Jain traditions. This was specifically during Lord Rama's time. If you check how Lord Rama & rest of the people gave up their life during his time, you will realize that it is closer to Sallekhana or Santhara than traditonal Vedic way of dying.
I appreciate that you are not spreading misinformation like other channels. People are often pointing out correlations and claiming we knew about evolution before Darwin, without solid proof. I agree with what Al-Biruni said: even today, people praise the supposed successes of ancient India, overshadowing its actual scientific achievements.
@@justdoit4789 haifirstly al biruni wrote that in his book kitab ul hind. And he was a scholar and if you have doubt about that you can just read his book and can simply understand how knowledgeful he was
Most of our comments on the contents of the Vedas are based not on the original reading of them but on interpretations by different commentators. Hence the difficulty in separating the wheat from the chaffe, perhaps.
I don't think dasa avataras are listed anywhrere in Vedas. May be in Puranas. Please quote the actual source (name of Purana, sarga, chapter, shloka number) in any Purana. I ve seen dasa avataras listed in ashtapadi of Jayadeva
As per the Wikipedia: The Agni, Padma, Garuda, Linga, Narada, Skanda and Varaha Puranas mention the common (Krishna, Buddha) Dashavatara list. The Garuda Purana has two lists, one longer list with Krishna and Buddha, and a list with Balarama and Buddha, which substitutes Vamana for Rama. The Shiva Purana has Balarama and Krishna. The list with Krishna and Buddha is also found in the Garuda Purana Saroddhara, a commentary or 'extracted essence' of the Garuda Purana. -@Navin
1. Who says that the Matsya was the first incarnation? Did your grand father tell you about Bhagavata Purana in which the Fish avatar comes as the 10th avatar? Did you bother to verify what your grandfather said or blindly believed him? 2. Bhagavata Purana Skanda 1 Chapter 1 describes incarnations of Vishnu. The chronological order is different and as follows: 1. Kumaram 2. Boar 3. Narada 4. Nara and Narayana 5. Kapila 6. Anusuya;s child 7. Yajna son of Rici and Akuti 8. Rishabha Adinatha 9. Prithu 10 Fish 11, Tortoise 12. Dhanvantari 13. Mohini 14. Man-lion 15. Vamana 16. Parashurama 17. Vyasa born to Satyavati and Paashara 18. Rama 19. Balarama 20. Krishna 21. Kalki. Still you say that everybody is agreed on the first eight Avatars. But Bhagavat Purana does not agree. 3. Panditji, you say that Krishna is Purna Purushottam and that it is written in the Vedas. In which Veda it is written? Rama and Krishna are not even mentioned in Vedas. They were subsequently appropriated into the Hindu pantheon of Gods. 4. You say that Aryabhata calculated the diameter of the earth and Brahmagupta pointed out the Gravity of earth, thousands of years ago. Have you checked? You will be shocked when you check.
@@revenantwolzart So you do not accept what Vedas say that Veda and Puranas originated from the same source? ऋचः सामनि छन्दौसि पुराणं यजुषा सह। उच्छिष्टाज्ञिरे सर्वे दिवि देवा दिविश्रितः॥ Verses, and Songs, and magic hymns, Purāna, sacrificial text, all the celestial Gods whose home is heaven sprang from the Residue. Atharvaveda 11.7.24.
The gravity was mentioned by Bhaskara, and not Brahma gupta as mentioned in the video clip. Also, I don't think the radius of earth is given in Aryabhatiya
Bhagavatam didn't list dasa avataras in chronological order. There are main 10 avatars and other amsa (partial) avatars, all mixed in the list given above. Remember dasa avatara stotra in ashtapadi of Jayadeva. Here, avataras are listed in the order of matsya, kutam, etc. May be, in some puranas also. I don't know.
Just because you don’t understand doesn’t make it crap. This video is nothing but a sarcastic take on what’s out there. On one side they talk about good things, how did the achieve great things without knowledge? We don’t know does not mean it doesn’t exist.
Exactly, he's dismissing the Vedas just because a Persian critic disapproved of them. That's pure pseudo-intellectual behavior. Remember what the Persians did to so much knowledge in India, like the destruction of Nalanda University."
Lilavati was written by Bhaskara II The gravity was described by Bhaskara I or Bhaskara II. But, not in Lilavati. Also, the numbers are not mentioned in the book.
Greetings from the USA. There is an idiom that goes, "throw in everything but the kitchen sink." There is this tendency, perhaps part of Hindutva, that "all knowledge arose from the Vedas." Well, we know that Lord Vishnu was mentioned a few times in the Vedas but He was not a major deity then. Even Shree Vishnu evolved from the Vedas, to an all-powerful deity! And then came the Nine Avatars. And then Brahma arose from a lotus in Lord Vishnu's navel. I have learned one thing for sure: *Hinduism has been a religion in evolution over the past thousands of years.* But all this said, there surely is an uncanny resemblance between the Avatars of Lord Vishnu to the stages of evolution of life. It is certain that our mystics were aware of the fact that life evolved on earth. Hinduism is the ONLY religion on earth that is perfectly comfortable with the theory of evolution.
Quite a lot of crap in this video. Show me the Mantra in Vedas that say Krishna is superior to Rama. Or even mention of Rama and Krishna in Vedas. Imaginary bunkum. I thought these fellas were well researched about their shit. I'd have really respected them if they had described the reality of Vimaana as a matter that we can't know today and left it unanswered. Not everything in history transitions to present without a break. And we have so many things like those. Also this entire concept of avatarvaad is also not as compliant with Vedas as they say. Avataarvaad is very much a Puraanic concept. I hope they get their shit together and don't say things loosely about Vedic references.
My German grandmother said chew the meat spit out the gristle. I wonder how the Mayans made their calculations and if there were higher levels of intercontinental communication that we are unaware of.
Could it be what is being called dunk is like we call junk DNA because we have not figured out functions of some stretches of DNA but gradually scientists are finding out its role.
This guy is like every other guy who gets a pulpit. Initially sensible and valuable, soon start to go beyond, become opinionated and then holds forth on everything under the sun.
@@ugajajaia149 not really. If you see his other videos you'll see him taking very non traditional non conservative positions as well. But yes he is bit opinionated.
@@TheFutureIQ Don key but you claimed that it mention in Vedas that show your half baked knowledge and bias. You are not a Authority person to talk about vedas Explain this before starting shot video. otherwise read vedas then give facts and page no before commenting don key
AMONG THESE SCRAPS ON SOME DAY OF 1870,, ONE FELLOW FOUND SOME BOOKS IN KERALA AND SOME IN TAMILNADU,, WHICH HE STOLE AND THOSE BOOKS PASSED AWAY THREE FOUR GENRATIONS TO UNDERSTAND AND THEN IN 1930S GODDARD FIRST MADE ROCKET AND ROCKET ENGINES,, WHICH ARE 99.9% SIMILAR TO OUR VEDIC DISCUSSIONS
Interesting thoughts. Mostly a practical contextual view on what is truth. I miss the mystique of the things that are difficult to measure. Just carefully disregard them because you cannot decode it?
@@felixdias4611Rishis And Munis Like Ved Vyasa and Narada Studied The Universe And Write them. Therefore, They're Are CALLED Ved Vyasa "Vyasod Chistam Jagat Sarvam" ! Study And Take Interest In "Payshachi Sanskrit", And You Will Know YOURSELF FIRST / Brhama Gyan / Aatma Gyan / Enlightenment ! You Should With The Bhagvat Geet 🙏And The Bhagvatam 🙏
@@gowtheman123 it doesn't matter what his grandfather/ grandmother said..!! He said Vedas contain crap..!! Did you see, how cleverly he is spreading his narrative..?? By being respectful and by being a clever dishonest critique..!! Tell me that how is a science/ scripture/ text ,written 2000 years ago can be more advanced than today's science..!! Yes, it was more advanced than its contemporary civilizations..!! It's like, someone watching this podcast after 2000 years, will be calling this person a stupid, dimwit and a lowlife..!!
You said "somebody imagined something doesn't make it science" just like you just imagined something and made up some theory and making us believe you were right.
Regarding Vaastu Shashtra, you are correct. Today what is sold is totally bogus and doesn't have any connection to the ancient knowledge of building science. The Vaastu Shashtra was predomindntly for town plans and temple designs designed in ancient Indi. What should have been carried to today's time is the beautiful aesthetics and symbolism and the deep rooted connwction to climatology
I appreciate if you could dosome research on the Topic Vedic Mathematics more: After Shri Bharati Krushna Teertha swamiji, there are more works done on the subject interestingly from the same school of vedic tradition ( namely Puri Peeth ) ; however I agree with what Al-Biruni said !
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This channel is very cunningly using Hindu/Sanatan philosophy to show that they are the only sane intelligent people in India who has read all the Vedas, Upanishads, Puranas, and Itihasas and an authority to debunk all the knowledge systems that Bharat has always been so proud of. These are the guys who are really ashamed of their own birth.😂
There are mythical stories..every culture in the worls has such stories and thats not science..would u accept muhammad splitting the moon as historical event or would u argue that hanuman flying with a mountain was real??
The one thumber would say that evolution theory is given by darwin. But he said the words, other people digging bones and remains. Darwin was just theorizing.
East-west facing house?? I am wondering how would it look like... Thanks for rhe video; it has things I too use in debates but not in so hard hitting ways 😊
From the bottom of my heart, you guys are doing an awesome job, the stupidity among us Indians is astounding. Right now we need is questioning / introspection into our ancient practices. That’s what I’ve been telling people we can’t just blindly follow certain practices. only if we had ever built a solid or concrete civilization would’ve never succumb to Mughals or Britishers. Undoubtedly we built a remarkable civilization in the past, but as time goes on, we need to evolve, build another great civilization in modern era, not restore previous one. Trust me, we can build a great Indian civilization, and set an example like Chinese . (no matter what you say about them it’s one of the longest serving civilization, they had gone through economic, difficulty and fought bloody civil wars, however, they are now a superpower). I really like the point where you pointed that Vedas are not hundred percent correct because nothing will ever be. We just gotta evolve. Thanks for contributing to the society !! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Vishnu avatar are more close to development stages of human embryo by each month. Month 1: the semen flows like fish and seeds the egg! Month 2: In the second month, bones are developed, the outer shell of turtles is actually made of bone! Month 3: Facial features start to form, the face at this stage looks like pig as all features are still not fully formed! Month 4: half lion half human, at this stage nails and dental alveolus are developed! Month 5: By end of month 5, baby is fully formed including brain. Vamana depicts that by 5th month it is fully formed human but only smaller in size! Incidentally the growth of embryo is like blue print of evolution of life itself! The remaining avatars from 6th onwards are about building personality to live in human society, they basically depict different virtues like truth, sacrifice, dharma yuddha etc
Everything in the Vedas is science fiction? Really ? Please give one example ....even the dashavatar you mentioned are Puranic not Vedic. Also please go through the various concepts of physics written by Acharya Agnivrat and tell which part is non Vedic in nature .
@@praveennaguluri539 thanks for informing me about Venkata Garu....I did not know there was a yt channel by him...I hope he would consider starting an English channel as well for those who can't understand Telugu because pure Vedic knowledge must be shared to all followers of Dharma.
@@kumarpurohit7379 ధర్మం ఒంటి పాదం మీద నడుస్తుంది, ఈ కలియుగంలో. అందుకే మంచి కన్నా చెడు మాత్రమే ఎక్కువ ప్రచారం అవుతుంది. మీకు ఆర్య ద్రవిడ సిద్ధాంతం తప్పు అని శాస్త్రీయంగా నిరూపించారు. విష్ యు ఆల్ ది బెస్ట్ 👍
Vedas and Shiv Puran or Vishnu Puran are different books. Btw Vishnu Puran doesn't describe evolution. It is just a story which we are trying to describe in present age and press modern ideas on prehistoric beliefs. Life on earth didn't start with fish but single cell beings which no Vishnu Puran or Vedas have ever described.
No single sentance or even a single word can be claimed to be wrong ! Such is the correctness and rightness of the excellent interview and interviwee's opinions !
ok ok some people wrote it long back and more texts were written later to update it and now we should update it more because at the end its a human creation only.
The best lesson here is about 'pearls and dung.' Traditional knowledge is a mix, not solely one or the other. And i think the way to avoid the slippery slope of this ‘respect of pearls’ translating into ‘civilizational superiority’ is by acknowledging the key factors: the continued existence of large population supported by fertile land, safe-ish environments, trade with diverse foreign lands etc. All of these facilitated the continuous creation and propagation of the pearls.
@5:34 its not correct..anybody can not just dream like that..if someone writes today we have nuclear bombs after 5000 years people may think that's a fiction..so unless someone proves it was not there, it also not required to be proved for its existence..scriptures are good enough to believe..Hindu scriptures are full of science, the more evolve & develope, the more we will realize the same..
While it's fascinating to see the symbolic parallels between the Dashavatara and evolution, we should be careful not to fall into the trap of confirmation bias. It's important to remember that these avatars were created as part of a religious narrative, not as a scientific prediction. Interpreting them as proof of modern science is more about finding patterns we want to see than uncovering actual evidence.
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg While it's intriguing to consider the stories of Pushpak Viman and Brahmastra, it's important to recognize these as mythological elements rather than historical artifacts. These stories are rich in cultural and spiritual symbolism, reflecting the values and beliefs of the time. They were not intended to be taken as literal history but rather as part of a larger narrative that conveys moral and philosophical lessons. Just as we don't expect other mythologies to align with historical events, it's essential to appreciate these stories for their intended purpose within the context of cultural heritage.
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Yes, I see them as symbolic and mythological, not as physical objects that existed in history. They serve as cultural stories for some people, conveying deep moral, spiritual, and philosophical ideas. In my view, these myths should be appreciated for their cultural significance, rather than being interpreted as historical fact.
How could he say vedas are mix of perals and Dung ? In my level of perception of vedas are from bhagwad gita can you show me one single bad thing in bhagwad gita which is bad ? Obviously the knowledge in bagwad gita is essentially vomes from Vedas or inspired from vedas right, The problem wirh him is he couldn't able to differentiate between bad and something irrelevant to current reality which essentially makes them look bad but good at their times The problem is those islamic invations doesn't let them (vedas ) develop whith the time passing. We india need new historians who had understanding of every field those old brats just spent their life in single domain and talking shit of others
A dwija interpretation. Now the theory as explained clearly approves the the idea of evolution. The basic of all religion including Hinduism is the creation of all the universe and every thing in it... Charachar and if the evolution theory is accepted then God, religion and and
It’s amusing how, throughout the entire video, people fixated on that one part where you mentioned it’s all in the Vedas and flooded the comments criticizing you for it. It’s surprising how they ignore all what is spoken in this video and focus on one small detail, completely missing the bigger picture! 😂 how it matters if it's vedas or puranas is beyond my comprehension.
The entire episode feels like crap when it is said that there are many good discoveries but everything is not true. If anchor and speaker dont find substance in some parts of veda's, does not mean those parts are rediculous / redundant/ crap / useless.
Correct observation by Al-Biruni. Not everything that is old, is gold. Sometimes it may look like gold but turns out to be 💩. So as a thoughtful human being we have to verify, before supporting anything blindly. Great video guys❤
Please do not mixup vedas and puranas. They are seperate bodies of literature and are not interchangable...Puranas have Truths, half truths, erros, blunders and eveything in between. There are exquisite verses, there are ridiculous stories in it.... As swami vivekananda said smritis and puranas are from men of lesser intelligence, so take only that which makes sense and has an element of open mindedness.
With regards to our ancients knowing about evolution, you should check out the Jain theory 9f Kalchakras and the prediction of rising temperatures in the current half cycle
That is not called evolution. As per Jainism, the earth is flat. Nothing is mentioned about temperature. 9th Kalachakra will start after more than 100 trillion years after the destruction of the Milky Way Galaxy. Jainism is against evolution theory.
Modern ayurveda and modern vastu are not the form which is written in Vedas. Many of your facts about Sanskrit , Hindi varnmala were really appreciable but before saying that there are pearls and dung in Vedas is not admirable at all .Being a learned person first you should dig deep in Vedas and i am sure you will repent on your own🙏
Check Bhagavan Shanmukha's book the Divine Initiation published in 2001, explaining this completely, the book was published 23 years ago! Check Guru of Satguru
So many angry and upset people. All he’s saying is that there are both accurate and applicable, brilliant things contained in the Vedas, but some that are not. He’s not saying throwing it out or that it’s all bad. It’s important to keep your mind open.
This discussion doesn't look scientific. One guy claims & the other one nods. He should ask for evidence. Atheism in Hinduism. Evidence? Ancient maths. Which university, which century, which region under which ruler? What Archeological evidence is there and what was it written on.
Out of 6 Vedic philosophies, 4 are atheistic originally -Sankhya, Vaiseshika, Yoga and Nyaya. Later gods were added. Anyway, they don't have any creator god or supreme entity as in Vedanta(Bramhan). Jainism and Buddhism believe in no god originally(later Buddha was made a god, Bodhisatvas came, Jinas were worshipped as gods, etc)
@@grapeshottso you are familiar with bodhisattva. Good. Vishnu, Brahma and Siva are the padmapani forms of the avalokateshwar bodhisattva in the Vajrayana sect of Buddhism. As far as the vedas are concerned, there is no written evidence before the 15th century. All the brahmanical scriptures are written in classical sanskrit. The script is Dev nagri which started in the 7-8th century and completed in the 10th century. Pali/Pakit and Dham script is Buddhist. So it becomes difficult to believe of ancient Indian science when evidence for the same is not provided.
@@ajaydalaya2195 Can you please explain to me what is Sanatan Dharma. Which are the holy books, how old is it and how old is the evidence? The term sanatan looks like a an adjective describing something.
What I just read about Al Baruni’s comments, science also developed just like the precursor to Darwin’s theory from the ten avatars that the ancient Hindus came up with. Technology was not developed during those early days of science! The ancients discovered what they thought was enough for their use. Think of all the Vedic literature which were available; most of it came pure logic and early science that came from astronomy, astrology, mathematics, physics,chemistry, early medicine, etc. from which scientists in the west deciphered and developed science as we know today!
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To make such a comparison is to neither know your mythology nor the theory of evolution by natural selection. Matsya Avatar first manifests as a small fish seeking Manu’s protection. So when Matsya appears, man is already present. So your claim goes poof. Kurma Avatar does not even take place on earth but in some fantasy world. When Kurma appears, humans or humanoids are already present as Devas and Asuras fighting over Amrit or Ambrosia. And don’t forget, there is also a snake, a reptile already present and used as a rope to churn the ocean. So your claim falls flat again. If you knew some basic stuff on gravity you would know that any creature with sufficient mass to lift the earth will, in the earth’s proximity cause itself and the earth to disintegrate due to tidal effects. So Varaha just won’t work out for you. But most important, if you perceive evolution as a ladder, which it isn’t, then by your logic Rama should be an improvement on Parashurama and Krishna an improvement on Rama. I wonder how many Hindus will agree with you on this. Remember this. Religion will always need science to buttress its illogical claims, science does not need religion to support its theories.
If you want pearls of vedas then you need to read upnishads which have extracted only knowledge from vedas and left mythlogy out may be for puranas to be written after millenia. Problem with al buruni was that he himself was a confused men thus he could not bifercate the pearls from the dunk . While about 100 years or so ago God fathers of today's quntom mechenics properly picked up the concept of singularierty from rig veda and then advaitya vedanta whicg has allowed to be so advanced today in quntom mechenics , so to assort pearls from the dunk one himself needs to be bright enough to recognise what is a pearl in the first place .
Every upsetting and insulting comment in here are from the people who haven't even tried reading any vedas. If they would have read it, they would have gave accurate response with whats correct in this video and whats incorrect. These guys are just commenting bullshit about how he is not right and they should show this that
Actually the Ancient acharyas knows Theory of evolution that time around 3000-3500 years ago after 3 type of migration shaped indian population. And later on it transformed in folklore with mythologies.they know how homo habilis erectus than homo sapiens formed Todays human 40000 years ago But due to lack of physical evidance and oral transformation like Darwin it eventuality forgotten and people started believe we created by Almighty power as direct human without any evolution.
Buddha being considered to be the 9th incarnation seems to be after Buddha's parinirvana.Because as per Buddha's own words, that was his last birth. So it cannot be a Vishnu avatar. Neither did older traditions considered him as such. If you visit very old temples there you cannot see Buddha in Dashavatar sculptures. Also there are no Hindu temples for Buddha as it is for other avatars after Shri Ram.
What you know is science what do you dont know is yet to be proven science.. Take up theories mention in vedas and disprove or prove them!!! Treat vedas as theoritical physics!!
@@JakeVS2011 in vedas there are no such explanations. Vedas is not a science text , it's a religious text. But you are believe vedas consistent science then you will be satisfied by many pseudo scientific videos in social media
found a critique from Persia so decided to dump everything in the can. What was that guy’s qualifications to criticize mathematics you have not clarified. Just two arrogant pseudo intellectuals are all these two are.
interesting thoughts. But there is also this point of seeing is believing or myths vs reality.. and with my own experience, I do not agree that homeopathy is bull shit.
This sounds far stretched. Tortoise is an amphibian by habitat otherwise it is a reptile. What about life forms before fish? Fish is a vertebrate. There were many life forms before fish.
Rama in Vedas 😅😅...sorry Vedas do not mention Rama,Sita, or for that matter Krishna...In Vedas Indra is the super hero, major God, flanked by other majors like Varuna, Mitra etc. Many of the Gods that we worship today do not even have a passable mention in Vedas, so they must have been a letter addition or a parallel tradition that was later syncretized under the umbrella of Hinduism. Pls recheck your facts. Pls do not spread false information.
Absolutely right...only Krishna is mentioned in the Chandogya Upanishad describing him as Devaki putra and his guru Gora Angirasa..this Upanishad was composed around 9th BC ..but that was probably a later addition because it was much later that Krishna became a popular figure in Indian literature and folklore after his integration in Brahmin religion..
You try to put too much of information in very little time. I wanted to know the beginning if the the earth and the placement of food and fodder for animals and human. First you mentioned 😮 change occur from lion to human then you again said later you have nenenthetal, homosepiens etc. I felt the info huried in a calm voice , making it sound like absolute truth. You being a scholar , I was expecting from to be truth and nothing but truth. Please can we go from one stage to the next stage in detail . I really like your program and appreciate your sharings. Thanks
Sure, there is dung and pearl together, but not in Vedas, in your brain, dear guy. Also don't agree with you that Vedas has some science fiction. Rishis were scientists not fiction writers, dude.
Theory of evolution is completely incompatible with avatars as there are 24 avatars of Vishnu. Here are some avatars who came before Matsya and *who are humans*: Narada- He is the son of Lord Bramha and is a big devotee of Lord Vishnu. Nara Narayana - Nara and Narayana are the two twin sage avatars of Lord Vishnu. Rishabha- Rishabha was a preacher and a spiritual leader Prithu- Prithu was the first sacred king Mohini- Mohini is a female avatar of Vishnu. Vyasa- He authored Mahabharata *Regarding turtles*: Turtle is not an amphibian. It is a reptile. A frog is amphibious. The earliest known ancestor of modern turtles is Eunotosaurus, a reptile that lived during the Permian period about 260 million years ago. Eunotosaurus lived exclusively on land. So turtles didn’t come from the sea. It went to the sea. Please do some due diligence before picking a topic.
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Ram and krishna are not just "guys" for us...!! They are our beloved bhagwan..!!
Dashavatara was brought in to counter the Shaivism and shiva domination all over India.
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Next time when wrstern invent something, we can relate to some story of ours.
This is called drawing the bullseye over arrow hit by someone.
IMHO- This is a victim mindset that many Indians have..
While it is true that many discoveries are not Indian
Clearly we can see in ancient temples the evolution of beings as depicted by Vishnu avatars and Ayurveda and scripts of Aryabhatta pre-dates modern discoveries..
What you are alleging abt our own holds for your comment too - alleging without any proof they didn't discoveries these which are covered as part of the video
See, this is what is wrong with how we take the age old stories and anecdotes told to us. There is nothing wrong with drawing parallels between what is scientifically being proven and what these stories say. It is just here that we realize that these stories also hinted at such scientific parallels all along. If we really pay attention and not just be the "believers" but also the "seekers" in the true sense, we may appreciate these works better.
@@viditpant7641 then anything we says is parallel to science
So, everything we have in the past/modern world-from cars, microchips, to discovering materials, to AI to nanotechnology, and beyond-isn’t just limited to technology, engineering, and science. It encompasses all aspects of human development. If India had been 3,000 years ahead, all these and many more of human innovation and understanding of advancements would have originated India - but have largely not. Infact cinsider how many Nobal prizes has India which has a population of pver 1.4 billion people?
Wise question. But they won't have answer🤦♂️
They will call you anti-national, anti-hindu because they don't have any reply
So all scientific development happened only after institutions of Nobel.when was Nobel born??
Scenic was there but it needs technology to invent and prove. From year 950 -1425 Muslims contributed in a great deal but there is no invention in that era .
Number, addition of Zero, Arithmetic, Fraction are from India . Based on this other contributed and took it further. Than Greeks added something like pythogirus
This is written in Modern books of Mathematics and science
You forgot to mention about The Surya Siddhanta. It is more than 7000 years old scripture. It has the astronomical calculation along with geometry and trigonometry. It is astonising. The mahabharata has more than 2000 shlokas where time is mentioned as celestial positions.
How did you consider Al-Biruni's comment as standard.
There is lots of cool stuff we have that I didn't mention: that list would be quite long. The ones I mentioned were just supposed to be illustrative examples. And I don't know what you mean by "consider Al-Biruni's comment as standard": I believe it to be largely true based on what I see around myself now (and what I understand of our ancient texts). That's my opinion (not a "standard"). -@Navin
If you’re going to make up stuff you should at least try to make it believable. The scripture is dated to the 4-5th century CE/AC.
Surya Suddantha was dated to 4th to 5th century AD. 7000 is just nonsense.
7000 years was Neolithic age
@@TheFutureIQal biruni never understood Hindi texts. Stop your Pro paganda
Wrong... Lord Krishna and Lord Rama are not mentioned in the Vedas. Vedas preceeded Lord Rama and Lord Krishna way far.
Wrong
Wrong and wrong..
Rama and Krishna are not mentioned in the earliest Mandalas which mainly contain the Rshis thoughts and descriptions of nature...
Krishna references added to the Vedas later. Eg. The Purusha Sukta
@@prasvasu4217 Still does not fully negate the OP's point as to the earliest vedas pre-dates Rama and Krishna
Purusha sookta could have been a later addition
Dude 😂 Atharva Veda depicts about krishna. This is the example of "half knowledge is always dangerous". I know Vedas are way older than incarnations as Krishna tells Arjuna to follow Vedas in Gita.,🤷🏻♂️Now don't tell me you don't know about Atharva Veda.
Most of it is a good dialogue but there are some bloopers, like claim that, Arya Bhat calculated the circumference of the earth. Hello discovered that the earth is spherical and its rotation in its axis in a day. But the circumference of earth was for first measured by the Eratosthenese in the second century BC.
How do you connect the dots, do you know exactly how much would have been lost in the Nalanda and all other temples we lost a lot of historical places and temples
We are always 1000, 2000, 3000, ... 10000 years AGO were far advanced. But now, we are always 1000, 2000 3000, ... 10000 behind, stuck!
One of the very few channels which talks sense without any propaganda… just pure truth..this is the very need of the hour in today’s world where everyone is biased
😂😂😂 enough of sleep buddy..new get up, get out of your confirmation biasness and come to the real world😊
8th and 9th Avatar are Krishna and Balaram. Initial life of Krishna represents human control over animals through Animal Husbandary (Shepherd culture), while Balaram represents human control over agriculture (Farming culture). Krishna also later morphs into a Statesman due to involvement of Politics of City States.
Buddha was added to the list later to counter the Buddhist influence. But the Buddist threat of put down by Shankaracharya.
No no brother
Buddha is 9th
You will found the Jain tirthankara Rishavadeva as one of the avataras of vishnu. 😅😅
We gave space too all of them ❤❤ how big hearted where those people with our slutering and persicution we make one
@@LifeOn_Camera Agreed. But those will not be part of the Dashavatars. There is a seperate set of 24 avatars described in the Bhagwat Puran.
We also have to understand is that over time different Rishis of Sanatana Dharma brought in new knowledge and new practices to our religion. So, there was a time when all Hindus follow Jain traditions. This was specifically during Lord Rama's time.
If you check how Lord Rama & rest of the people gave up their life during his time, you will realize that it is closer to Sallekhana or Santhara than traditonal Vedic way of dying.
I appreciate that you are not spreading misinformation like other channels. People are often pointing out correlations and claiming we knew about evolution before Darwin, without solid proof. I agree with what Al-Biruni said: even today, people praise the supposed successes of ancient India, overshadowing its actual scientific achievements.
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Al biruni never said that. And al biruni was never a scholar.
Hindu texts do not talk about evolution since evolution never happened
@@justdoit4789 haifirstly al biruni wrote that in his book kitab ul hind. And he was a scholar and if you have doubt about that you can just read his book and can simply understand how knowledgeful he was
@@Aryayoutubeid he was not a scholar... he w a copy paster.... who take that knowledge from India then put his own name... 😅
Most of our comments on the contents of the Vedas are based not on the original reading of them but on interpretations by different commentators. Hence the difficulty in separating the wheat from the chaffe, perhaps.
5:00 this question not explained in this video
I don't think dasa avataras are listed anywhrere in Vedas.
May be in Puranas. Please quote the actual source (name of Purana, sarga, chapter, shloka number) in any Purana.
I ve seen dasa avataras listed in ashtapadi of Jayadeva
As per the Wikipedia: The Agni, Padma, Garuda, Linga, Narada, Skanda and Varaha Puranas mention the common (Krishna, Buddha) Dashavatara list. The Garuda Purana has two lists, one longer list with Krishna and Buddha, and a list with Balarama and Buddha, which substitutes Vamana for Rama. The Shiva Purana has Balarama and Krishna. The list with Krishna and Buddha is also found in the Garuda Purana Saroddhara, a commentary or 'extracted essence' of the Garuda Purana. -@Navin
@TheFutureIQ Yes, that's a factual correction by your own admission Sir... He's right!
There is no incarnation of Vishnu mentioned in the Vedas. ...
A deva named Vishnu has only small presence in the hymns of Rigveda.
Any book in sanskrit which describes gold extraction from gold rocks ?
Ngl,I was worried where you were going in the beginning but a great save further in the video.
Extremely underrated channel..
Thank you!! -@Navin
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1. Who says that the Matsya was the first incarnation? Did your grand father tell you about Bhagavata Purana in which the Fish avatar comes as the 10th avatar? Did you bother to verify what your grandfather said or blindly believed him?
2. Bhagavata Purana Skanda 1 Chapter 1 describes incarnations of Vishnu. The chronological order is different and as follows: 1. Kumaram 2. Boar 3. Narada 4. Nara and Narayana 5. Kapila 6. Anusuya;s child 7. Yajna son of Rici and Akuti 8. Rishabha Adinatha 9. Prithu 10 Fish 11, Tortoise 12. Dhanvantari 13. Mohini 14. Man-lion 15. Vamana 16. Parashurama 17. Vyasa born to Satyavati and Paashara 18. Rama 19. Balarama 20. Krishna 21. Kalki. Still you say that everybody is agreed on the first eight Avatars. But Bhagavat Purana does not agree.
3. Panditji, you say that Krishna is Purna Purushottam and that it is written in the Vedas. In which Veda it is written? Rama and Krishna are not even mentioned in Vedas. They were subsequently appropriated into the Hindu pantheon of Gods.
4. You say that Aryabhata calculated the diameter of the earth and Brahmagupta pointed out the Gravity of earth, thousands of years ago. Have you checked? You will be shocked when you check.
Yes, Vishnu has around 24 avataras. The Dasha avatara is a list of his 10 avatar. I got to know this when I read the Bhagvata Purana.
Puraranas are not as sginificant texts as Vedas
@@revenantwolzart So you do not accept what Vedas say that Veda and Puranas originated from the same source? ऋचः सामनि छन्दौसि पुराणं यजुषा सह। उच्छिष्टाज्ञिरे सर्वे दिवि देवा दिविश्रितः॥ Verses, and Songs, and magic hymns, Purāna, sacrificial text, all the celestial Gods whose home is heaven sprang from the Residue. Atharvaveda 11.7.24.
The gravity was mentioned by Bhaskara, and not Brahma gupta as mentioned in the video clip.
Also, I don't think the radius of earth is given in Aryabhatiya
Bhagavatam didn't list dasa avataras in chronological order. There are main 10 avatars and other amsa (partial) avatars, all mixed in the list given above.
Remember dasa avatara stotra in ashtapadi of Jayadeva. Here, avataras are listed in the order of matsya, kutam, etc.
May be, in some puranas also. I don't know.
Just because you don’t understand doesn’t make it crap. This video is nothing but a sarcastic take on what’s out there. On one side they talk about good things, how did the achieve great things without knowledge? We don’t know does not mean it doesn’t exist.
Exactly, he's dismissing the Vedas just because a Persian critic disapproved of them. That's pure pseudo-intellectual behavior.
Remember what the Persians did to so much knowledge in India, like the destruction of Nalanda University."
Brahmagupta also calculated the earth gravitation force up to 18 decimal places in Lilavati which is kept in NASA
Lilavati was written by Bhaskara II
The gravity was described by Bhaskara I or Bhaskara II. But, not in Lilavati. Also, the numbers are not mentioned in the book.
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Kept in NASA 😂😂😂😂
wow, I hope your channel grows
Greetings from the USA. There is an idiom that goes, "throw in everything but the kitchen sink." There is this tendency, perhaps part of Hindutva, that "all knowledge arose from the Vedas." Well, we know that Lord Vishnu was mentioned a few times in the Vedas but He was not a major deity then. Even Shree Vishnu evolved from the Vedas, to an all-powerful deity! And then came the Nine Avatars. And then Brahma arose from a lotus in Lord Vishnu's navel. I have learned one thing for sure: *Hinduism has been a religion in evolution over the past thousands of years.* But all this said, there surely is an uncanny resemblance between the Avatars of Lord Vishnu to the stages of evolution of life. It is certain that our mystics were aware of the fact that life evolved on earth. Hinduism is the ONLY religion on earth that is perfectly comfortable with the theory of evolution.
9th Avtar is for human peace ! Attainments by meditating at the present moment, no regrets for the past and no worries for the future. “आपो दीप भव”।
As a biologist I always related Hindu avatar with evolution and I wondered. But it does explain what we know now about evolution.
No,it’s an example of discovering the eye first and building the bull around.
Quite a lot of crap in this video. Show me the Mantra in Vedas that say Krishna is superior to Rama. Or even mention of Rama and Krishna in Vedas. Imaginary bunkum. I thought these fellas were well researched about their shit.
I'd have really respected them if they had described the reality of Vimaana as a matter that we can't know today and left it unanswered. Not everything in history transitions to present without a break. And we have so many things like those.
Also this entire concept of avatarvaad is also not as compliant with Vedas as they say. Avataarvaad is very much a Puraanic concept.
I hope they get their shit together and don't say things loosely about Vedic references.
My German grandmother said chew the meat spit out the gristle. I wonder how the Mayans made their calculations and if there were higher levels of intercontinental communication that we are unaware of.
Could it be what is being called dunk is like we call junk DNA because we have not figured out functions of some stretches of DNA but gradually scientists are finding out its role.
Don't forget that the seligram(Ammonite) was also seen as Vishnu.
This guy is like every other guy who gets a pulpit. Initially sensible and valuable, soon start to go beyond, become opinionated and then holds forth on everything under the sun.
BJP/RSS propagandist
@@ugajajaia149 not really. If you see his other videos you'll see him taking very non traditional non conservative positions as well. But yes he is bit opinionated.
When were the Dashavatars written about?
They have been mentioned in a number of different puranas, from maybe the 3rd century CE all the way up to 17th century CE. -@Navin
@@TheFutureIQ Don key but you claimed that it mention in Vedas that show your half baked knowledge and bias. You are not a Authority person to talk about vedas Explain this before starting shot video. otherwise read vedas then give facts and page no before commenting don key
AMONG THESE SCRAPS ON SOME DAY OF 1870,, ONE FELLOW FOUND SOME BOOKS IN KERALA AND SOME IN TAMILNADU,, WHICH HE STOLE AND THOSE BOOKS PASSED AWAY THREE FOUR GENRATIONS TO UNDERSTAND AND THEN IN 1930S GODDARD FIRST MADE ROCKET AND ROCKET ENGINES,, WHICH ARE 99.9% SIMILAR TO OUR VEDIC DISCUSSIONS
Interesting thoughts. Mostly a practical contextual view on what is truth. I miss the mystique of the things that are difficult to measure. Just carefully disregard them because you cannot decode it?
Vedas don’t contain crap. They showcase the best of the evolutionary Thought process
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who wrote vedas and what connection do Hindu religion have with vedas?
@@felixdias4611Rishis And Munis Like Ved Vyasa and Narada Studied The Universe And Write them. Therefore, They're Are CALLED Ved Vyasa "Vyasod Chistam Jagat Sarvam" ! Study And Take Interest In "Payshachi Sanskrit", And You Will Know YOURSELF FIRST / Brhama Gyan / Aatma Gyan / Enlightenment ! You Should With The Bhagvat Geet 🙏And The Bhagvatam 🙏
@@gowtheman123 it doesn't matter what his grandfather/ grandmother said..!! He said Vedas contain crap..!! Did you see, how cleverly he is spreading his narrative..?? By being respectful and by being a clever dishonest critique..!! Tell me that how is a science/ scripture/ text ,written 2000 years ago can be more advanced than today's science..!! Yes, it was more advanced than its contemporary civilizations..!! It's like, someone watching this podcast after 2000 years, will be calling this person a stupid, dimwit and a lowlife..!!
Was just waiting for someone to get offended
taking credit from western discovery is not a right way to boost your ego.
You said "somebody imagined something doesn't make it science" just like you just imagined something and made up some theory and making us believe you were right.
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You are not able to deal with the truth, are you?
Regarding Vaastu Shashtra, you are correct. Today what is sold is totally bogus and doesn't have any connection to the ancient knowledge of building science.
The Vaastu Shashtra was predomindntly for town plans and temple designs designed in ancient Indi. What should have been carried to today's time is the beautiful aesthetics and symbolism and the deep rooted connwction to climatology
I appreciate if you could dosome research on the Topic Vedic Mathematics more: After Shri Bharati Krushna Teertha swamiji, there are more works done on the subject interestingly from the same school of vedic tradition ( namely Puri Peeth ) ; however I agree with what Al-Biruni said !
Great twist!! I was wondering where he is going with this.
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This channel is very cunningly using Hindu/Sanatan philosophy to show that they are the only sane intelligent people in India who has read all the Vedas, Upanishads, Puranas, and Itihasas and an authority to debunk all the knowledge systems that Bharat has always been so proud of. These are the guys who are really ashamed of their own birth.😂
There are mythical stories..every culture in the worls has such stories and thats not science..would u accept muhammad splitting the moon as historical event or would u argue that hanuman flying with a mountain was real??
They are not you are
The one thumber would say that evolution theory is given by darwin. But he said the words, other people digging bones and remains. Darwin was just theorizing.
East-west facing house?? I am wondering how would it look like...
Thanks for rhe video; it has things I too use in debates but not in so hard hitting ways 😊
Pearls and dung. Pearls are so much covered in dung people think that dung is shining. Impostors were so many causing geniuses to stay hidden.
From the bottom of my heart, you guys are doing an awesome job, the stupidity among us Indians is astounding. Right now we need is questioning / introspection into our ancient practices.
That’s what I’ve been telling people we can’t just blindly follow certain practices. only if we had ever built a solid or concrete civilization would’ve never succumb to Mughals or Britishers.
Undoubtedly we built a remarkable civilization in the past, but as time goes on, we need to evolve, build another great civilization in modern era, not restore previous one.
Trust me, we can build a great Indian civilization, and set an example like Chinese . (no matter what you say about them it’s one of the longest serving civilization, they had gone through economic, difficulty and fought bloody civil wars, however, they are now a superpower).
I really like the point where you pointed that Vedas are not hundred percent correct because nothing will ever be. We just gotta evolve.
Thanks for contributing to the society !! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Problem is when you complete your PHD in english without learning english and strat your you tube channel to spread your narrative
Vishnu avatar are more close to development stages of human embryo by each month.
Month 1: the semen flows like fish and seeds the egg!
Month 2: In the second month, bones are developed, the outer shell of turtles is actually made of bone!
Month 3: Facial features start to form, the face at this stage looks like pig as all features are still not fully formed!
Month 4: half lion half human, at this stage nails and dental alveolus are developed!
Month 5: By end of month 5, baby is fully formed including brain. Vamana depicts that by 5th month it is fully formed human but only smaller in size!
Incidentally the growth of embryo is like blue print of evolution of life itself!
The remaining avatars from 6th onwards are about building personality to live in human society, they basically depict different virtues like truth, sacrifice, dharma yuddha etc
Krushna= vithal, Buddha ❤ जय हरी विठ्ठल 🙏💙🚩
After watching this video, I understand. Lucy, who lived 3.2 million years ago, was speaking English with an Indian accent, 100% true xD
40 years ago I realized this !!!!!
Everything in the Vedas is science fiction? Really ? Please give one example ....even the dashavatar you mentioned are Puranic not Vedic. Also please go through the various concepts of physics written by Acharya Agnivrat and tell which part is non Vedic in nature .
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@@praveennaguluri539 thanks for informing me about Venkata Garu....I did not know there was a yt channel by him...I hope he would consider starting an English channel as well for those who can't understand Telugu because pure Vedic knowledge must be shared to all followers of Dharma.
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Vedas and Shiv Puran or Vishnu Puran are different books. Btw Vishnu Puran doesn't describe evolution. It is just a story which we are trying to describe in present age and press modern ideas on prehistoric beliefs. Life on earth didn't start with fish but single cell beings which no Vishnu Puran or Vedas have ever described.
How long should I fast to get a flat belly at my age as per Vedas ?
No single sentance or even a single word can be claimed to be wrong !
Such is the correctness and rightness of the excellent interview and interviwee's opinions !
8 th Avathar is Balarama( a farmer... Who started farming with his hal. Or Buddha who is a renounced human being by controlling all senses!!
ok ok some people wrote it long back and more texts were written later to update it and now we should update it more because at the end its a human creation only.
The best lesson here is about 'pearls and dung.' Traditional knowledge is a mix, not solely one or the other.
And i think the way to avoid the slippery slope of this ‘respect of pearls’ translating into ‘civilizational superiority’ is by acknowledging the key factors: the continued existence of large population supported by fertile land, safe-ish environments, trade with diverse foreign lands etc. All of these facilitated the continuous creation and propagation of the pearls.
Thanks, that's well put. -@Navin
This is difficult subject to understand for common people sir explained in simple language good video keep going 😊
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@5:34 its not correct..anybody can not just dream like that..if someone writes today we have nuclear bombs after 5000 years people may think that's a fiction..so unless someone proves it was not there, it also not required to be proved for its existence..scriptures are good enough to believe..Hindu scriptures are full of science, the more evolve & develope, the more we will realize the same..
Why was there no brahma astras or pushpaka vimanas when mohamed ghori attacked ?
@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg irrelevant question..
@@abani8304 Why irrelevant ?
Such things could well have saved India >
While it's fascinating to see the symbolic parallels between the Dashavatara and evolution, we should be careful not to fall into the trap of confirmation bias. It's important to remember that these avatars were created as part of a religious narrative, not as a scientific prediction. Interpreting them as proof of modern science is more about finding patterns we want to see than uncovering actual evidence.
What happened to pushpak vimans, brahma astras when muslim invaders attacked ?
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg While it's intriguing to consider the stories of Pushpak Viman and Brahmastra, it's important to recognize these as mythological elements rather than historical artifacts. These stories are rich in cultural and spiritual symbolism, reflecting the values and beliefs of the time. They were not intended to be taken as literal history but rather as part of a larger narrative that conveys moral and philosophical lessons. Just as we don't expect other mythologies to align with historical events, it's essential to appreciate these stories for their intended purpose within the context of cultural heritage.
@@nikilperbhoo1310 So , you agree that they were not real things ?
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Yes, I see them as symbolic and mythological, not as physical objects that existed in history. They serve as cultural stories for some people, conveying deep moral, spiritual, and philosophical ideas. In my view, these myths should be appreciated for their cultural significance, rather than being interpreted as historical fact.
@@nikilperbhoo1310 These are useless for real situationd.
Dashavatara was brought in to counter the Shaivism and shiva domination all over India.
What is the basis of this theory?
@@dmanair HOT air!
@dmanair there are more old shiva temples than vaishnava temples. In fact, less than 2% of old temples are vishnu dedicated
Decimal is just very limited fractions.
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How could he say vedas are mix of perals and Dung ? In my level of perception of vedas are from bhagwad gita can you show me one single bad thing in bhagwad gita which is bad ? Obviously the knowledge in bagwad gita is essentially vomes from Vedas or inspired from vedas right,
The problem wirh him is he couldn't able to differentiate between bad and something irrelevant to current reality which essentially makes them look bad but good at their times
The problem is those islamic invations doesn't let them (vedas ) develop whith the time passing.
We india need new historians who had understanding of every field those old brats just spent their life in single domain and talking shit of others
Vedas are not from bhagwad gita. Promoting war is bad. It was Britishers who forced Bhagwat Gita on Indians as part of Brahmavad.
Absolutely yes- the ancients through symbolism gave us the dashavatars. What is the basis of Darwin’s theory of evolution?
A dwija interpretation. Now the theory as explained clearly approves the the idea of evolution. The basic of all religion including Hinduism is the creation of all the universe and every thing in it... Charachar and if the evolution theory is accepted then God, religion and and
It’s amusing how, throughout the entire video, people fixated on that one part where you mentioned it’s all in the Vedas and flooded the comments criticizing you for it. It’s surprising how they ignore all what is spoken in this video and focus on one small detail, completely missing the bigger picture! 😂 how it matters if it's vedas or puranas is beyond my comprehension.
The entire episode feels like crap when it is said that there are many good discoveries but everything is not true. If anchor and speaker dont find substance in some parts of veda's, does not mean those parts are rediculous / redundant/ crap / useless.
Correct observation by Al-Biruni. Not everything that is old, is gold. Sometimes it may look like gold but turns out to be 💩. So as a thoughtful human being we have to verify, before supporting anything blindly. Great video guys❤
Thanks! -@Navin
Please do not mixup vedas and puranas. They are seperate bodies of literature and are not interchangable...Puranas have Truths, half truths, erros, blunders and eveything in between. There are exquisite verses, there are ridiculous stories in it....
As swami vivekananda said smritis and puranas are from men of lesser intelligence, so take only that which makes sense and has an element of open mindedness.
All of them are crap
With regards to our ancients knowing about evolution, you should check out the Jain theory 9f Kalchakras and the prediction of rising temperatures in the current half cycle
That is not called evolution. As per Jainism, the earth is flat. Nothing is mentioned about temperature. 9th Kalachakra will start after more than 100 trillion years after the destruction of the Milky Way Galaxy.
Jainism is against evolution theory.
Modern ayurveda and modern vastu are not the form which is written in Vedas. Many of your facts about Sanskrit , Hindi varnmala were really appreciable but before saying that there are pearls and dung in Vedas is not admirable at all .Being a learned person first you should dig deep in Vedas and i am sure you will repent on your own🙏
Check Bhagavan Shanmukha's book the Divine Initiation published in 2001, explaining this completely, the book was published 23 years ago! Check Guru of Satguru
So many angry and upset people. All he’s saying is that there are both accurate and applicable, brilliant things contained in the Vedas, but some that are not. He’s not saying throwing it out or that it’s all bad. It’s important to keep your mind open.
This discussion doesn't look scientific. One guy claims & the other one nods. He should ask for evidence. Atheism in Hinduism. Evidence? Ancient maths. Which university, which century, which region under which ruler? What Archeological evidence is there and what was it written on.
He mentions the mathematicians' names. Seems reasonable enough video.
Out of 6 Vedic philosophies, 4 are atheistic originally -Sankhya, Vaiseshika, Yoga and Nyaya. Later gods were added. Anyway, they don't have any creator god or supreme entity as in Vedanta(Bramhan). Jainism and Buddhism believe in no god originally(later Buddha was made a god, Bodhisatvas came, Jinas were worshipped as gods, etc)
@@grapeshottso you are familiar with bodhisattva. Good. Vishnu, Brahma and Siva are the padmapani forms of the avalokateshwar bodhisattva in the Vajrayana sect of Buddhism. As far as the vedas are concerned, there is no written evidence before the 15th century. All the brahmanical scriptures are written in classical sanskrit. The script is Dev nagri which started in the 7-8th century and completed in the 10th century. Pali/Pakit and Dham script is Buddhist. So it becomes difficult to believe of ancient Indian science when evidence for the same is not provided.
Charvaka is athiesm
In fact Jaina and Buddhist schools are also nasteeka schools of sanathan Dharma.
@@ajaydalaya2195 Can you please explain to me what is Sanatan Dharma. Which are the holy books, how old is it and how old is the evidence? The term sanatan looks like a an adjective describing something.
What I just read about Al Baruni’s comments, science also developed just like the precursor to Darwin’s theory from the ten avatars that the ancient Hindus came up with. Technology was not developed during those early days of science! The ancients discovered what they thought was enough for their use. Think of all the Vedic literature which were available; most of it came pure logic and early science that came from astronomy, astrology, mathematics, physics,chemistry, early medicine, etc. from which scientists in the west deciphered and developed science as we know today!
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Thank you
-navin
To make such a comparison is to neither know your mythology nor the theory of evolution by natural selection.
Matsya Avatar first manifests as a small fish seeking Manu’s protection. So when Matsya appears, man is already present. So your claim goes poof.
Kurma Avatar does not even take place on earth but in some fantasy world. When Kurma appears, humans or humanoids are already present as Devas and Asuras fighting over Amrit or Ambrosia. And don’t forget, there is also a snake, a reptile already present and used as a rope to churn the ocean. So your claim falls flat again.
If you knew some basic stuff on gravity you would know that any creature with sufficient mass to lift the earth will, in the earth’s proximity cause itself and the earth to disintegrate due to tidal effects. So Varaha just won’t work out for you.
But most important, if you perceive evolution as a ladder, which it isn’t, then by your logic Rama should be an improvement on Parashurama and Krishna an improvement on Rama. I wonder how many Hindus will agree with you on this.
Remember this. Religion will always need science to buttress its illogical claims, science does not need religion to support its theories.
Correlation isn’t causation. Educated people like you must know that.
lol that was the point of the entire video, just if you didn't try to be woke and would have listened at 5:01
That's the whole point of the episode 😂😂 you'd have only understood if you were not blinded by hate and have a broad inclusive mind.
Awesome 👌 sir to connect past & future.
Practicality is the essence of developing... Asha
If you want pearls of vedas then you need to read upnishads which have extracted only knowledge from vedas and left mythlogy out may be for puranas to be written after millenia. Problem with al buruni was that he himself was a confused men thus he could not bifercate the pearls from the dunk . While about 100 years or so ago God fathers of today's quntom mechenics properly picked up the concept of singularierty from rig veda and then advaitya vedanta whicg has allowed to be so advanced today in quntom mechenics , so to assort pearls from the dunk one himself needs to be bright enough to recognise what is a pearl in the first place .
Every upsetting and insulting comment in here are from the people who haven't even tried reading any vedas. If they would have read it, they would have gave accurate response with whats correct in this video and whats incorrect. These guys are just commenting bullshit about how he is not right and they should show this that
He is repeating the same mistake by giving judgement from his side.
Actually the Ancient acharyas knows Theory of evolution that time around 3000-3500 years ago after 3 type of migration shaped indian population. And later on it transformed in folklore with mythologies.they know how homo habilis erectus than homo sapiens formed Todays human 40000 years ago But due to lack of physical evidance and oral transformation like Darwin it eventuality forgotten and people started believe we created by Almighty power as direct human without any evolution.
Buddha being considered to be the 9th incarnation seems to be after Buddha's parinirvana.Because as per Buddha's own words, that was his last birth. So it cannot be a Vishnu avatar.
Neither did older traditions considered him as such.
If you visit very old temples there you cannot see Buddha in Dashavatar sculptures. Also there are no Hindu temples for Buddha as it is for other avatars after Shri Ram.
What you know is science what do you dont know is yet to be proven science..
Take up theories mention in vedas and disprove or prove them!!!
Treat vedas as theoritical physics!!
There are no theories in Veda. There is no a single mathematical equation in Vedas.
Loved it❤
Tortoises are considered as reptiles and not amphibians
Reptiles and amphibian are wat the west taught u. So vedas might have it own explanation. But it a good Pictual explanation,
@@JakeVS2011 in vedas there are no such explanations. Vedas is not a science text , it's a religious text. But you are believe vedas consistent science then you will be satisfied by many pseudo scientific videos in social media
@@rkannan0emcHe said it's just a coincidence.
found a critique from Persia so decided to dump everything in the can. What was that guy’s qualifications to criticize mathematics you have not clarified.
Just two arrogant pseudo intellectuals are all these two are.
interesting thoughts. But there is also this point of seeing is believing or myths vs reality.. and with my own experience, I do not agree that homeopathy is bull shit.
This sounds far stretched. Tortoise is an amphibian by habitat otherwise it is a reptile. What about life forms before fish? Fish is a vertebrate. There were many life forms before fish.
Rama in Vedas 😅😅...sorry Vedas do not mention Rama,Sita, or for that matter Krishna...In Vedas Indra is the super hero, major God, flanked by other majors like Varuna, Mitra etc. Many of the Gods that we worship today do not even have a passable mention in Vedas, so they must have been a letter addition or a parallel tradition that was later syncretized under the umbrella of Hinduism.
Pls recheck your facts. Pls do not spread false information.
Sorry about that; we used vedas as a short hand for all our ancient manuscripts, which, as you pointed out, is technically incorrect. -@Navin
Absolutely right...only Krishna is mentioned in the Chandogya Upanishad describing him as Devaki putra and his guru Gora Angirasa..this Upanishad was composed around 9th BC ..but that was probably a later addition because it was much later that Krishna became a popular figure in Indian literature and folklore after his integration in Brahmin religion..
You try to put too much of information in very little time. I wanted to know the beginning if the the earth and the placement of food and fodder for animals and human. First you mentioned 😮 change occur from lion to human then you again said later you have nenenthetal, homosepiens etc.
I felt the info huried in a calm voice , making it sound like absolute truth. You being a scholar , I was expecting from to be truth and nothing but truth. Please can we go from one stage to the next stage in detail . I really like your program and appreciate your sharings. Thanks
Maybe this will help: x.com/NGKabra/status/1199921367291850752
-navin
*9th avatar is wise person who is beyond Maya.*
Sure, there is dung and pearl together, but not in Vedas, in your brain, dear guy. Also don't agree with you that Vedas has some science fiction. Rishis were scientists not fiction writers, dude.
What discoveries and inventions have Rishis made? Which Shakha of Veda do you believe in?
The other guy need not to behave like stupid every time 😂that's not hilarious,he is a intelligent guy and he could behave as
🙊🙃 - Shrikant
Beautiful Analysis and revelation ❤️🫡🙏
Theory of evolution is completely incompatible with avatars as there are 24 avatars of Vishnu. Here are some avatars who came before Matsya and *who are humans*:
Narada- He is the son of Lord Bramha and is a big devotee of Lord Vishnu.
Nara Narayana - Nara and Narayana are the two twin sage avatars of Lord Vishnu.
Rishabha- Rishabha was a preacher and a spiritual leader
Prithu- Prithu was the first sacred king
Mohini- Mohini is a female avatar of Vishnu.
Vyasa- He authored Mahabharata
*Regarding turtles*: Turtle is not an amphibian. It is a reptile. A frog is amphibious. The earliest known ancestor of modern turtles is Eunotosaurus, a reptile that lived during the Permian period about 260 million years ago. Eunotosaurus lived exclusively on land. So turtles didn’t come from the sea. It went to the sea.
Please do some due diligence before picking a topic.
Sir your analysis is excellent.
Thanks! -@Navin