I run one of these on my router. Mach3 controls it just fine, just requires the standard messing around with settings. On/off is just an output from the bob to a relay and speed control is via the 0-10v output. I use also us a couple of AC Tech VFD's in the shed and they're very similar.
will the motor on lathe still run without the green, white and black not connected..I have my unit hooked up to 220 volt and have 110 volt on each leg then I test the voltage at lower right side wires and I have 148 volts (each) on all three wires going to the three phase motor..my box is a little different...but looks similar. no brand name on it or instructions..so I am assuming if the wires up top are not connected the lathe will not run..
HI Russ, I am running a 110 vac1.5 kw spindle on a 110vac 2.2kw vfd. I have upgraded to a 110 vac, 2.2kw spindle for the larger collet size. I previously had my max current PD142 set to 7 amps which ran fine. I went to increase the amps on my drive and see it only goes to 11 amps. Do you know if this the max for the drive or if it is being limited by another parameter. this is a Haugyang VFD.
I wonder since7 amp setting for 1.5kw works well, so maybe the 11 amp setting for 2.2kw is Correct. I guess that I will try and see. Being this is a 3 phase set up on the output side it will be different than computing current from a regular formula. Thank you for you response. Good day to you.
Question , I have the 120VAC input drive. I've seen videos where it is hooked up to a single phas with a single phase AC motor as the load. They don't mention how thw AC in is wired. I'm trying to figure out where to wire the Neutral wire to. The Line input ( black ) will go to 'R', does the neutral go to 'S' or to the ground terminal on the unit. Thanks
Thanks so much for the excellent tutorial. Hadn't been able to find anywhere that explained about what to do with the neutral wire though I assumed it would be connected to ground but was a bit hesitant. Thanks again! :)
Nice work and great information. I went with the Teco L510 on the lathe. I specifically didn't get into any wiring info in my video due to the liability issue. I love haveing my lathe running under 3 phase, variable speed, power. It is so simple to change speeds. Now to get the carriage brackets made.
Great video mate , im trying to pwr a hoist with vfd but the sparkie wired the neutral back to the single phase input side , should the neutral coming back off the 3 phase side be wired ti ground terminal of the vfd?? Please Help i got no output from mine 😞
Are you saying Uniform is no longer in use, or is it just that it sounds weird hearing phonetics being used? I learned the phonetic alphabet from listening to my old man talk on the radio. Go Utah! -Romeo Uniform Sierra-
Uniform is proper. Not sure why or how I got stuck on Utah! Just always been that way. By the way, do you have a physical switch or plug/physical disconnect between your breaker and your vfd? I'm thinking about implementing both, as in: breaker>switch>plug>vfd>motor. In case I want to move my unit around (2x72 belt grinder, 3hp Baldor motor).
I live in Europe with 220v electricity,Can you give your opinion on grounding the spindle?There are many opinions on the net about it,on how you should solder an additional wire inside the spindle to the body itslef,or not doing anything at all,but the pin number 4 is empty,it is not connected to anything.
3 Phase motor signals are balanced, so a ground isn't required to get it running. That said, I would agree that attaching a ground to the spindle body is a good idea just to make sure you're being safe. I didn't realize some spindles don't have a ground lug on them already. Are you using a high-freq 2.2kw spindle? I have one but never wired it up so I'm not sure if it allows for grounding either.
Can I tie the 220v neutral and the motor ground wire to the same lug on the VFD if I dont have a chassis ground? In my case Im going to be mounting the 3hp vfd variant of this to my table saws cabinet.
Currently my 240V power shuts down at the end of repetitive cycles and restarts when I click 'Cycle Start ' on my Mach 3. If I only connect the motor wires and these interrupted 240V power wires will I have to reset the speed etc on this VFD on every cycle ?
I'm not sure I understand your question. The VFD can be turned off/on at any time and will not lose its programmed parameters. Disconnecting the main voltage is not going to deprogram it.
Thanks for the video. I got a question. I bought a VFD and a spindle (2.2 kw air cooled) but when it arrived i realized i ordered 220V instead of 110V i have in my garage. It looks exactly like yours. Do you know if these models have the same hardware and configured differently and i can change some switch and voila itis 110v ? PC power supplies have that switch for example... If not, if i exchange the product, changing VFD is enough? Or spindle will meed to be changed too? Thanks
For the VFD, certain models can either be powered by 110v or 220v. They all look the same, so it's a bit of a hassle figuring out which VFD you have. You will probably have to comb through the manual to find out if yours will run off 110v. Or just wire it up and see what happens :/ For the spindle, you might be able to run it off 110v but you'll be getting half the power. 2.2KW is calculated on 220v and 10 amps. if you can only supply 110v you'd have 1.1KW at 10 amps. I'm not sure how well the motor will run like that (or if at all).
I have one of these drives and I want to control a single phase fan motor (like the kind used for a restaurant kitchen exhaust). Do you have advice on wiring for 110VAC mains and motor?
This model is for ~220 Volts, it will not work on 120 volts. If you tried to connect 120V (line & neutral) to any order of RST, it will go up in smoke! You need the model that is made for 120 volts.
Man we keep having trouble with Google Drive. I've moved it to Dropbox, check the new link in the description. The link takes you to a folder with the PDF.
great video. I have this same inverter (220V 1~ph in, 220V 3~ph out, ), laying around from another application in the past, but with 3kW rating. I now want to use it to drive a 220v 3ph deep well water pump. This pump fills a reservoir and a level switch in this reservoir is turning the pump on and off. Off when it is totally full, and on when the level drops a few feet. So it is basically an ON/OFF operation. My question is: where do I connect the level switch to? I have the manual, but can not get clear how to connect the on/off level switch to. Is it +10V and VI ? Not sure so would appreciate some help with this.
Hello and thank you for your video. I saw a couple of other videos about this vfd. They had set PD003, 004 and 005 to max (400) What do you think ? regards Shahrokh
Frankly I'm not sure why we need these settings at all. I can't say what will happen if you set it to max as I've never tried it. If you're running a high-freq spindle (400hz) then yeah I'd set PD005 at 400. Let me know if you try maxing them out and if you notice anything being affected.
Well, he shouldn’t be. Neutral and ground are not the same. The neutral is the groundED conductor and the green is the groundING conductor. If this VFD is 220v, that neutral doesn’t belong in there.
really thanks Rus, for you videos and your attention, really appreciate. It is more difficult than i expected, with the help of an eng, i could see that my motherboard use the "phisical com" i mean the real address of a COM for "inner use" so it is too risky triing to use them for something else. One more question, using the HY vfd, i can easily control a three phase usual motor, but it sense too much load for a submersible motor pump. Wich parameter i could try to work on, to set them to "handle" with this type of motor. I know the VFD could do this, because there are a whole series of VFD selled to drive this type of motors. BTW it is just to experience with the VFD , so if you have better things to do, do not worry about it. Again thanks, Daniele
Thanks, so much Rus, i could not remember just now, what i know: the inverter works fine with standard motors, when i tried it with the submersible type, it acted like if overloaded. SO i think may be it need a "smoother" output voltage.. but not sure on how to do it.
Thank you for posting this. Much clearer and more to the point than other videos I've seen. Not to mention the files you uploaded. I have a question: The manual (which as you correctly point out is a bit hard to digest) makes it sound like unplugging or sudden stopping of the flow of power to your device/motor FROM the VFD can damage it. I'm currently using it to power a couple of air compressors, which of course have mechanical relays to maintain a certain pressure. Do you ever use the Huanyang with similar relays/contactors/SSRs? Should I find some kind of work around in order to not damage the VFD? One possibility is using the mechanical relay to redirect wall Mains to the control terminals which would then shut off the VFD. But I'm not sure which terminals would work since, as we've said, the manual looks like it was written by a computer. Appreciate any additional help you or others can offer, not to mention what you have so far Chris
I really think the warnings are to keep the device from seeing high inrush current or feedback. I've had a other people say they are running them the way you are and have never had a problem. It may be luck of the draw :/ I don't have any good ideas on a workaround though. I figure if you haven't burned one up quickly you're probably alright.
Hello, how can i wire my 1600w 50Hz 220v miter saw in 2.2kw single phase-three phase frequency converter because we use 60Hz in my country and i want to convert the frequency from 60Hz to 50Hz to allow me to use my miter sow safely ? Thank you
question: you use Linux CNC but have never used the Mach software. This implies you are good with linux.. not out of the realm of possibilities, is there another reason? Do you think that this is better in some way? is the sampling rate, or the frame rate or something?? I am just looking at these technologies but I don't have the discretionary funds to jump in att. So, why did you pursue this tech tree?
I've been using LinuxCNC for a few years now. I'm not a developer or programmer, but I've been using it long enought that I'm comfortable with it. Frankly, I went with LinuxCNC because it's free, and Mach isn't. I assumed that at some point I would "upgrade" to Mach, but I no longer consider Mach as an upgrade. I know many people using Mach who hate it and want to switch to LinuxCNC. Mach runs on Windows and if you aren't using a SmoothStepper (and even if you are) you may have problems with signals not correctly being sent to your breakout board. Linux uses a "real time" kernel which means you don't need a SmothStepper and you get a much more reliable command stream to the breakout board. Also, with a little programming knowledge and a lot of help from the LinuxCNC forum, LinuxCNC is every bit as capable as Mach and is just as easy to use.
hey man, I have a VFD like this for a milling machine (only mine is 1.5kW) do you have anything that could be like a schematic for what wires go where? I didnt understand the video (not your bad, but i suck at english when it comes to electrostuff) so it would be great if you had a link or something Beside that, very good video :)
Very good video. Is there any way that I can find wiring diagram for inverter SAMCO -Q?I don't have any wiring diagrams for external analog control for example.A three phase motor is connected it's OK But I want to have any wiring diagram or user manual. Thanks
I have mine wired to a relay and I kill power to the relay to turn it off. I'm not sure if there is a way to turn it all the way off without just cutting power.
Sorry, I'm not sure as I never got to that part. You may be able to find another video online discussing it, or you might have to consult the manual. If you get it working, make a video and let me know!
Right. I did about 20 versions of this video before settling on this take, and in most of the previous versions I covered national code. In the end, I decided I didn't want to get into it. Thanks for watching.
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lol i love how casually 'youll melt your wires or burn your house down' was delivered. Thanks for the info!
:)
I run one of these on my router. Mach3 controls it just fine, just requires the standard messing around with settings. On/off is just an output from the bob to a relay and speed control is via the 0-10v output.
I use also us a couple of AC Tech VFD's in the shed and they're very similar.
Great! Thanks for posting that.
Perfect video! Was just about to purchase one. Watching your video will save me a lot of time.
will the motor on lathe still run without the green, white and black not connected..I have my unit hooked up to 220 volt and have 110 volt on each leg then I test the voltage at lower right side wires and I have 148 volts (each) on all three wires going to the three phase motor..my box is a little different...but looks similar. no brand name on it or instructions..so I am assuming if the wires up top are not connected the lathe will not run..
HI Russ, I am running a 110 vac1.5 kw spindle on a 110vac 2.2kw vfd. I have upgraded to a 110 vac, 2.2kw spindle for the larger collet size. I previously had my max current PD142 set to 7 amps which ran fine. I went to increase the amps on my drive and see it only goes to 11 amps. Do you know if this the max for the drive or if it is being limited by another parameter. this is a Haugyang VFD.
I just tried it on mine and hit the same limitation. None of the documentation I have says if this is supposed to be the max so I'm not sure.
I wonder since7 amp setting for 1.5kw works well, so maybe the 11 amp setting for 2.2kw is Correct. I guess that I will try and see. Being this is a 3 phase set up on the output side it will be different than computing current from a regular formula. Thank you for you response. Good day to you.
Question , I have the 120VAC input drive. I've seen videos where it is hooked up to a single phas with a single phase AC motor as the load. They don't mention how thw AC in is wired. I'm trying to figure out where to wire the Neutral wire to. The Line input ( black ) will go to 'R', does the neutral go to 'S' or to the ground terminal on the unit. Thanks
Thanks so much for the excellent tutorial. Hadn't been able to find anywhere that explained about what to do with the neutral wire though I assumed it would be connected to ground but was a bit hesitant. Thanks again! :)
Great! I'm glad the video helped :)
Neutral is not ground. See my post.
Nice work and great information.
I went with the Teco L510 on the lathe. I specifically didn't get into any wiring info in my video due to the liability issue. I love haveing my lathe running under 3 phase, variable speed, power. It is so simple to change speeds. Now to get the carriage brackets made.
Great video mate , im trying to pwr a hoist with vfd but the sparkie wired the neutral back to the single phase input side , should the neutral coming back off the 3 phase side be wired ti ground terminal of the vfd?? Please
Help i got no output from mine 😞
I have this vfd and I want to add a two wire remote switch. I know I have to program some ports and land wires there. Can you tell me the process? Thx
how would you feel about 18 gauge stranded from spindle to the vfD?
Depends on the load. For my motor 16ga seemed like the safest.
Hi Rus,
Great video, What Model VFD is it Exactly I know 220V 1hp? I heard you mention the 1 HP three phase motor.
Be Safe,
Sam
Mine is the 2.2KW version, I'm not sure of the exact model number as it isn't listed anywhere on the VFD.
Added the "2.2kw" to the title. Thanks Sam.
Thanks Yeah folks might want to know its a 3HP VFD
Uniform? Wow, you really are old school! Utah where I'm from (graduated high school y2k). Thanks for the content! Very helpful.
Are you saying Uniform is no longer in use, or is it just that it sounds weird hearing phonetics being used? I learned the phonetic alphabet from listening to my old man talk on the radio.
Go Utah!
-Romeo Uniform Sierra-
Uniform is proper. Not sure why or how I got stuck on Utah! Just always been that way. By the way, do you have a physical switch or plug/physical disconnect between your breaker and your vfd? I'm thinking about implementing both, as in: breaker>switch>plug>vfd>motor. In case I want to move my unit around (2x72 belt grinder, 3hp Baldor motor).
Thanks really useful guide & links
I live in Europe with 220v electricity,Can you give your opinion on grounding the spindle?There are many opinions on the net about it,on how you should solder an additional wire inside the spindle to the body itslef,or not doing anything at all,but the pin number 4 is empty,it is not connected to anything.
3 Phase motor signals are balanced, so a ground isn't required to get it running. That said, I would agree that attaching a ground to the spindle body is a good idea just to make sure you're being safe. I didn't realize some spindles don't have a ground lug on them already. Are you using a high-freq 2.2kw spindle? I have one but never wired it up so I'm not sure if it allows for grounding either.
russtuff Mine is 0.8kw spindle.It has a number 4 pin but when I dissamble it there is no connection to anything
Can I tie the 220v neutral and the motor ground wire to the same lug on the VFD if I dont have a chassis ground? In my case Im going to be mounting the 3hp vfd variant of this to my table saws cabinet.
did you sort it then mate ?
You want to add 25% for motor start to allow the the voltage spike upon starting. So 3.2 x .25= 4.05 Amps.
Currently my 240V power shuts down at the end of repetitive cycles and restarts when I click 'Cycle Start ' on my Mach 3. If I only connect the motor wires and these interrupted 240V power wires will I have to reset the speed etc on this VFD on every cycle ?
I'm not sure I understand your question. The VFD can be turned off/on at any time and will not lose its programmed parameters. Disconnecting the main voltage is not going to deprogram it.
Thanks for the video. I got a question. I bought a VFD and a spindle (2.2 kw air cooled) but when it arrived i realized i ordered 220V instead of 110V i have in my garage.
It looks exactly like yours. Do you know if these models have the same hardware and configured differently and i can change some switch and voila itis 110v ? PC power supplies have that switch for example...
If not, if i exchange the product, changing VFD is enough? Or spindle will meed to be changed too?
Thanks
For the VFD, certain models can either be powered by 110v or 220v. They all look the same, so it's a bit of a hassle figuring out which VFD you have. You will probably have to comb through the manual to find out if yours will run off 110v. Or just wire it up and see what happens :/
For the spindle, you might be able to run it off 110v but you'll be getting half the power. 2.2KW is calculated on 220v and 10 amps. if you can only supply 110v you'd have 1.1KW at 10 amps. I'm not sure how well the motor will run like that (or if at all).
I have one of these drives and I want to control a single phase fan motor (like the kind used for a restaurant kitchen exhaust). Do you have advice on wiring for 110VAC mains and motor?
+Gary Packer That shouldn't be a problem, just make sure you program it for 110.
This model is for ~220 Volts, it will not work on 120 volts. If you tried to connect 120V (line & neutral) to any order of RST, it will go up in smoke! You need the model that is made for 120 volts.
He's Right, I'm wrong. This model only allows for 170v-240v for 220v power. I could have sworn it allowed for 110v input, but nope.
Thanks ToolGuy.
nice video man. I need a help, did you install any plugin drivers
Nope. The driver's to run this VFD are built into LinuxCNC.
Unfortunately Mach3 doesn't have it. Thanks for the reply
they have drivers for mach3 just search mach3 huanyang plugin
Is the manual still available on your Google Drive? The link doesn't really take you anywhere with a PDF easily discovered...
Man we keep having trouble with Google Drive. I've moved it to Dropbox, check the new link in the description. The link takes you to a folder with the PDF.
great video. I have this same inverter (220V 1~ph in, 220V 3~ph out, ), laying around from another application in the past, but with 3kW rating.
I now want to use it to drive a 220v 3ph deep well water pump. This pump fills a reservoir and a level switch in this reservoir is turning the pump on and off. Off when it is totally full, and on when the level drops a few feet. So it is basically an ON/OFF operation.
My question is: where do I connect the level switch to?
I have the manual, but can not get clear how to connect the on/off level switch to.
Is it +10V and VI ? Not sure so would appreciate some help with this.
Hello and thank you for your video.
I saw a couple of other videos about this vfd. They had set PD003, 004 and 005 to max (400)
What do you think ?
regards
Shahrokh
Frankly I'm not sure why we need these settings at all. I can't say what will happen if you set it to max as I've never tried it. If you're running a high-freq spindle (400hz) then yeah I'd set PD005 at 400. Let me know if you try maxing them out and if you notice anything being affected.
Thank you very much for your reply, of course i will.
Why do you hook up your neutral to the ground on the VFD?
Well, he shouldn’t be. Neutral and ground are not the same. The neutral is the groundED conductor and the green is the groundING conductor. If this VFD is 220v, that neutral doesn’t belong in there.
really thanks Rus, for you videos and your attention, really appreciate. It is more difficult than i expected, with the help of an eng, i could see that my motherboard use the "phisical com" i mean the real address of a COM for "inner use" so it is too risky triing to use them for something else. One more question, using the HY vfd, i can easily control a three phase usual motor, but it sense too much load for a submersible motor pump. Wich parameter i could try to work on, to set them to "handle" with this type of motor. I know the VFD could do this, because there are a whole series of VFD selled to drive this type of motors. BTW it is just to experience with the VFD , so if you have better things to do, do not worry about it. Again thanks, Daniele
+danieleconty I can't find my manual so I'm not sure which setting it is. Have you tried running the pump and the VFD is faulting?
Thanks, so much Rus, i could not remember just now, what i know: the inverter works fine with standard motors, when i tried it with the submersible type, it acted like if overloaded. SO i think may be it need a "smoother" output voltage.. but not sure on how to do it.
Thank you for posting this. Much clearer and more to the point than other videos I've seen. Not to mention the files you uploaded.
I have a question: The manual (which as you correctly point out is a bit hard to digest) makes it sound like unplugging or sudden stopping of the flow of power to your device/motor FROM the VFD can damage it. I'm currently using it to power a couple of air compressors, which of course have mechanical relays to maintain a certain pressure. Do you ever use the Huanyang with similar relays/contactors/SSRs? Should I find some kind of work around in order to not damage the VFD?
One possibility is using the mechanical relay to redirect wall Mains to the control terminals which would then shut off the VFD. But I'm not sure which terminals would work since, as we've said, the manual looks like it was written by a computer.
Appreciate any additional help you or others can offer, not to mention what you have so far
Chris
I really think the warnings are to keep the device from seeing high inrush current or feedback. I've had a other people say they are running them the way you are and have never had a problem. It may be luck of the draw :/
I don't have any good ideas on a workaround though. I figure if you haven't burned one up quickly you're probably alright.
Hello, how can i wire my 1600w 50Hz 220v miter saw in 2.2kw single phase-three phase frequency converter because we use 60Hz in my country and i want to convert the frequency from 60Hz to 50Hz to allow me to use my miter sow safely ? Thank you
Many VFDs can be programmed to accept either 60hz or 50hz, but you'd have to go through your manual to find out if it can be done on yours.
question: you use Linux CNC but have never used the Mach software. This implies you are good with linux.. not out of the realm of possibilities, is there another reason? Do you think that this is better in some way? is the sampling rate, or the frame rate or something?? I am just looking at these technologies but I don't have the discretionary funds to jump in att. So, why did you pursue this tech tree?
I've been using LinuxCNC for a few years now. I'm not a developer or programmer, but I've been using it long enought that I'm comfortable with it.
Frankly, I went with LinuxCNC because it's free, and Mach isn't. I assumed that at some point I would "upgrade" to Mach, but I no longer consider Mach as an upgrade. I know many people using Mach who hate it and want to switch to LinuxCNC. Mach runs on Windows and if you aren't using a SmoothStepper (and even if you are) you may have problems with signals not correctly being sent to your breakout board.
Linux uses a "real time" kernel which means you don't need a SmothStepper and you get a much more reliable command stream to the breakout board. Also, with a little programming knowledge and a lot of help from the LinuxCNC forum, LinuxCNC is every bit as capable as Mach and is just as easy to use.
I started with Mach3 and went to LinuxCNC and am glad I did. There's a little learning curve but like Russ said there's plenty of forum help.
hey man, I have a VFD like this for a milling machine (only mine is 1.5kW) do you have anything that could be like a schematic for what wires go where? I didnt understand the video (not your bad, but i suck at english when it comes to electrostuff) so it would be great if you had a link or something
Beside that, very good video :)
I do not know where you can find a schematic, but the manual says what each connection does.
Very good video. Is there any way that I can find wiring diagram for inverter SAMCO -Q?I don't have any wiring diagrams for external analog control for example.A three phase motor is connected it's OK But I want to have any wiring diagram or user manual. Thanks
How do i turn off the vfd? Or just pull out the power cord?
I have mine wired to a relay and I kill power to the relay to turn it off. I'm not sure if there is a way to turn it all the way off without just cutting power.
very good tutorial. so no coding needed? no HAL or any edit? just wire it up and everything should work in Linuxcnc? that's pretty magic
+xue roger I think there is a call for it in one of the HAL files. I'll take a look and post an update if needed.
russtuff thanks for reply. I have the added the code. But the hy_comm signal is always false. I've switched couple rs485, but no luck
Any more luck?
russtuff thanks for checking back. it turns out I forgot to set the address, I think it's the 163 needs to be 1. now everything works.
How would you install an external potensiometer what terminals and what parameters thanks
Sorry, I'm not sure as I never got to that part. You may be able to find another video online discussing it, or you might have to consult the manual. If you get it working, make a video and let me know!
What monitor are you using?
Nice one.
Wondering what kind of mother board that is
Where motherboard?
breakout board that has parallel port
andy wah C11 from CNC4PC. I talk about it in some other videos.
amigo usted tiene conctado fase en R y neutro en S
Y?
Hit thumbs down by mistake, nice video, thanks
Skip to 4:36 to see the actual wiring
the reason 12awg is so commonly used even though it's overkill is for compliance with the national electrical code.
Right. I did about 20 versions of this video before settling on this take, and in most of the previous versions I covered national code. In the end, I decided I didn't want to get into it. Thanks for watching.
You talk so fast I can't listen to you