How to: Wire a Cheaper VFD for a 2x72 Belt Grinder Build

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  • Lets wire up a cheaper VFD for a 2x72 Belt Grinder Build. Also I answer a lot of questions about the 3 Phase motor recommendation.
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  • @offcenterforge1098
    @offcenterforge1098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've needed this for like 2 years lol. Another knife maker turned me on to this, I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this. Motor and vfd is ordered, no more trying to grind at full speed haha.

  • @byronmcwilliams5968
    @byronmcwilliams5968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Brian, you always give great stuff for us novices to learn by. Thanks man! I'm planning on using the cheaper vfd for my build. I'm pumped and will keep you posted!

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to help Byron. Hope the build is going great. That little VFD is still in use in my shop and running strong. Woot!

  • @Austinificationify
    @Austinificationify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Was hesitant to make that upgrade from my treadmill dc motor/controller to the kbac/ironhorse setup but its made a world of difference! Thanks for the tips!
    I ran into an issue where the attached mounting bracket on the ironhorse motor relative to my dc motor caused the motor to protrude about two inches further out, throwing my whole setup out of alignment. Had to do some creative modifications to my grinder motor mount to accommodate the new motor and have it align with the platen and tracking wheel.

  • @ForgeandFairway
    @ForgeandFairway 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Getting this vfd delivered tomorrow and motor on Monday! Can't wait to get it installed, thanks for the awesome video!!

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah man! Thank you Kyle! 🙌🏻 🤜🏻⚡️🤛🏻

  • @vincentgolden5352
    @vincentgolden5352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good to know this vfd is reliable for the revolution. Im very excited my steel is almost here so i can start my build. Thankyou for sharing takecare and keep safe.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Vincent. I can't wait to check out your build. Should be fun for you. Ill be making those brackets tomorrow if all goes to plan. :)

    • @vincentgolden5352
      @vincentgolden5352 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome ill check the store tomorrow evening hope be placing a order. :-)

  • @toddharshbarger8616
    @toddharshbarger8616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is great! I think its probably a very good substitute for a shopsmith powerPro! The later is actually a switched reluctance - one sep above the ac induction you are doing but even another step above both would to rebuild the rotor and add permanent magnets to achieve the MOST efficient IPMSynRM!

  • @leekollar3298
    @leekollar3298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This seems like an awesome alternative! Another good video! I can’t wait to start my build!

  • @jdshear01
    @jdshear01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got my Ironhorse motor and VFD this week...looking forward to getting it wired up next week!

  • @Stillpoint23
    @Stillpoint23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hooked my grinder up to this VFD, and so far it's a success! I'm going to make an enclosure out of some scrap 16g steel, and an old electrical panel. I'll post the final product on IG. Can't wait for the belts from Brodbeck to arrive so I can really get this beast dialed in

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome dude!! 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

  • @emagee7864
    @emagee7864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's on my list of projects to build. Thanks for the easy to follow tutorial.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching and supporting my work. 💪🏻

  • @marioflores768
    @marioflores768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Already have your blueprints now this is the next step. Thanks

  • @bluecollarparadisetonywarf1789
    @bluecollarparadisetonywarf1789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey bro got my VFD a couple days ago so watched this video just to get familiar with the process of installation I’ll order motor as soon as they are available the only thing about this whole build I was apprehensive about was the electrical side but now I’m fully confident this is gonna be an awesome experience. YOU ARE THE MAN can’t thank you enough brother!!!!!

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeahhhhhh! Alright let’s see this beast running!! 💪🏻😁

  • @TheTradesmanChannel
    @TheTradesmanChannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey buddy, same exact vfd I used for mine. They are actually really user friendly. Don't know if you know this or not but you were mentioned as an up and coming channel by a decent podcast. Cool to see. Have a good one.

  • @heliguy3062
    @heliguy3062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Brian on the wiring for the VFD and motor electrical is not my thing so the info was great. I did read Richard's comment about the amperage for the power supply I do have 220 40 amp power in my shop for my welders and plasma cutter but will have a separate plug installed for the grinder.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good idea. I agree with him on that. Makes sense to be safe always. 💪🏻😁

  • @michaelrouthieaux1808
    @michaelrouthieaux1808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! Really helped out on my build.

  • @bobbymccoy6096
    @bobbymccoy6096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Same one I bought. Works great so far.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome Bobby, thanks for the info. Hope you are well my friend!! :)

  • @TheArtofCraftsmanship
    @TheArtofCraftsmanship 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great informative video Brian!

  • @alk5749
    @alk5749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This helped a lot, love your content and instruction.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate that very much Al. Thank you.

  • @Donorcyclist
    @Donorcyclist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I had known I could do three wire from the wall! That would have saved me some money! I did four wire all the way. Haha! Another great and informative video, Brian! I'm with you: Save up and get the quality gear, and you won't be crying later. I've got a 3hp sealed, three phase motor run from a KBDA-29 sealed controller. No worries about dust in the works, or issues with cooling!

  • @ScienceMonkey00
    @ScienceMonkey00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video! Thanks, it helped me wire up my Mill.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it helped! 😁👊🏻

  • @1983mojo1
    @1983mojo1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ripping it like a pro,bro.!!!!!!

  • @paulgreenlee190
    @paulgreenlee190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everything you do is first class. I have a 3 hp Huanyang Inverter to run my 3 phase 3 hp lathe motor. It has a low voltage side to make it complicated. I went through and changed the codes to reflex my motor HZ of 60. Wired it up and nothing. Trying to figure out what's next. Anyway your video is great and thank you for sharing.

  • @adamg1408
    @adamg1408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Looks like the wires to the motor would be:
    Black: T3, T9
    White: T1, T7
    Red: T2, T8
    Bound together: T4, T5, and T6
    This is to help others that are also color blind. I had a very hard time telling the green (ground) and 'red' wires apart.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Adam, very helpful! 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

    • @roywilson9214
      @roywilson9214 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The cheaper one on Amazon

    • @AIActionFun
      @AIActionFun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for this Adam. I just used this to wire up the motor. I now have a working VFD and motor!

    • @alk5749
      @alk5749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for this, all my motor wires are white, but labeled.

    • @MountainDewBots
      @MountainDewBots 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Life saver man, my motor came with all the wires in red so its been a guessing game since. Luckily they are all labeled so this will save me more time and frustration.

  • @kenmeuse2226
    @kenmeuse2226 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought it through your link. Glad it helped you.

  • @alexharvin2870
    @alexharvin2870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a BOSS. Thank you Brian!

  • @jeffreyryals1861
    @jeffreyryals1861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good deal Brian! I too had a hard time finding the KBAC27 so I ponied up and ordered a KBAC29. Buy once, cry once...

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am with you Jeff. Glad it worked out. Thanks for hanging out!

    • @jrocks1971
      @jrocks1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doood -- "Buy once, cry once" is the rule to live by. Always buy the best tool possible. Cutting corners is almost never worth the cost in performance. I will save for years to get the right tool for the job. That said, if there's an alternative that's THAT much cheaper, and it has a ton of people saying it works well, it's worth the time to investigate.~$280 difference on a VFD is good $$ that can be spent on other parts needed. Get a good 2-3hp reversible TEFC motor and you can always buy an upgraded VFD if the cheap one craps out some day.

  • @tedmattingly7564
    @tedmattingly7564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brian, that's pretty much the same VFD I just put on my Bridgeport Mill. It's been running for a couple weeks now and working great. I used a plastic remote box and a couple magnets so I can put the little control pad wherever I want.
    I hate the plastic collars on the crimp connector too. I solder mine after crimping too. I order the terminals without the plastic.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh very cool. Magnet is a great idea!! I might just steal that idea! I think my next batch of ring terminals will be sans plastic also. 😁 Hope you are well my friend. 👊🏻

    • @travislawson1185
      @travislawson1185 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ted, I'd love to pick your brain about wiring the VFD to the Bridgeport. I have an early 1949 model round ram J-head and since I recently moved my shop to a rural area north of Houston TX, I no longer have 3 phase power. I have a couple of VFD's I bought for my cnc plasma and router tables I'm also in the process of building. I just need to hear and see how other people have done the same thing.

  • @kellyjones334
    @kellyjones334 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I really enjoyed it.

  • @michaelmounts1269
    @michaelmounts1269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video...i use a lenze / actech vfd drive. only $150 locally...

  • @johnknox5692
    @johnknox5692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good info an video, i bought the vfd followed link,and the motor, 2 more weeks will order grinder,thk for the time and info

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome John, thank you for your business and support!! Yes!!

    • @carterbaldinelli4592
      @carterbaldinelli4592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HouseMadeUS I believe that the motor should be fine to run on plus or minus 10% of its rated Hertz

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Carter! 👊🏻

  • @acet7
    @acet7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thumbs up, if I ever want to get one of those 2x72 I will be calling you.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks John, hope all is well with you up there. Starting to get HOT.

    • @acet7
      @acet7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HouseMadeUS yup its summer weather for us now. Hopefully the hurricanes will stay away from us, don't want 2020 to be a total bust.

  • @RTOHIO
    @RTOHIO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You have barely scratched the surface of the Chinese VFDs which are very similar but have a myriad of programmable parameters to allow starting at a low frequency for a short time (you select the time) after which the unit can switch to a second higher frequency or directly to the maximum run frequency. The parameters can be altered to select how long each startup frequency stays in seconds before the next frequency kicks in. The maximum frequency can be significantly higher than standard American 60 cycles/second. Be sure your motor can handle the higher frequency. Many of he units have a built in Braking Resister to allow you to select a braking time. In addition they almost all have the ability to add a emergency stop switch, run, reverse, and other things. The little control panel buttons are very small to find in an emergency stop scenario. There are over 100 parameters and the manuals are written by people speaking english as a second language, although very good , they refer to parameters that are not always what we would call them. I have used these VFDs for 5 years now running my Bridgeport and 2 x 72 grinder (by a design that I will replace with your design). I have had only one fail but support from China is not good. I have one coming that will support a 30 meter cable (included) so I can mount the unit in the nearest clean environment, far away from metal dust. My Bridgeport VFD supports a 6 meter cable and I mounted the box about 10 feet above the floor, the control panel below my DRO. Has been successful for three years and counting.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I agree, I see the instructions and there is so much to learn. Also I was looking at the HZ rating and my motor should only go to 60 so I will have to adjust that. It said I was up to 65. Not sure if that will hurt the motor or ??

  • @d.comeaucustomknives2677
    @d.comeaucustomknives2677 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Very good Brian. A couple of points of interest. Swap any two motor wires (W, V, U) to get the motor to run in the opposite direction. You can program the acceleration time to "ramp up" to target speed. I use 8 seconds so I can adjust the tracking if needed before the belt gets up to full speed. A lot of these low cost VFDs will display Hz or RPM. You will have to program the number of motor poles, typically 2 or 4. Reading the manual, even if partly in Cantonese, can be pretty helpful. Of course, keep it cool and away from the metal dust. I have a couple of these and a KBAC-27D. I am happy to say they are all working good. Knock on wood. Cheers!

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome Dan, thank you so much for this info, AND all the info on your fantastic website. That is where I learned all of this stuff from. YOU are the MAN! :) Hope you are well my friend.

    • @grimmner
      @grimmner ปีที่แล้ว

      Im borrowing this post hopping to get a good respons(:
      Im Looking at a grinder with an equal setup and o e thing Im interested is exactly being able to change the direction on the motor to ge the belt going backwards, more expensive modells seems to have this feature but this cheap dont to my understanding.
      My understanding of electrobics aint the best but i had it also in the back of my head that switching the wires would accomplishe it.
      Is there a smart way one could wire that up to a single switch? Like having double wires going to the motor and by a turn of the switch change the polarity.
      Perhaps it would need 2 switched that both world as on switches one for forward and one for reverse.
      I do have friends that can help me do the actuall work so that i dont electrocute myself but they dont have experience from this so hopefully a can get some guidence here If i understand the possibility correct or not(:

    • @eleengineer
      @eleengineer 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@grimmner consult your specific manual on external control options. Swapping polarity at the motor is not typically recommended with a switch

  • @jeanrobertwongtitshing8227
    @jeanrobertwongtitshing8227 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find it very interesting, now if there is a way to pull out a wire from the connections of the VFD (most VFD has that option too) and connect to a potentiometer in a separate box and easy acessible to your place of work) of a big knob. Sometimes when you are doing mechanical works with the gloves on your hands, it much convenient to access the knob than the small switch on the VFD.

  • @CORZER0
    @CORZER0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this video.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching. Glad it could help.

  • @TheGdcb
    @TheGdcb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super video! I applauded for $5.00 👏👏

  • @hagsmich
    @hagsmich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, I was sweating it until you made this video.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great news! Glad it helped! 😁👊🏻

  • @DunderOz
    @DunderOz ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video 🙂

  • @TheGdcb
    @TheGdcb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First off thank you! Well done. I'm glad to see you trying different drives to help out your viewers. But I can't help but wonder how many colorblind (mostly men) viewers heads are exploding? Great video. Again Thank you!

    • @TheGdcb
      @TheGdcb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I applaud you! $5

  • @williamlanphar630
    @williamlanphar630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad this VFD appears to be a good alternative. I just bought the plans a few days ago and am excited to begin building it. BTW are you IN Naples? I used to live there.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you are building the machine. Yes I live in Naples, my old shop is still there, but I have recently bought a new building in Fort Myers (more for your money situation) - Cheers and enjoy the build.

  • @kentcastle4525
    @kentcastle4525 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always solder the crimp connectors. I once had an unsoldered crimp connector getting very hot. I measured 0.6 volts across it at 10 amps. That's six watts, and it got really hot.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good suggestion. I'll try that next time.

  • @juanar6233
    @juanar6233 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only issue I have ever had with these is making sure you check the frequency, I have had then set at 50 and 400 % out of the box. The instructions are hard to interpret but they are there lol

  • @josephmacey8512
    @josephmacey8512 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    VFD is the best way to go.
    ( added note,) Set the Hz on the slower rpm so not to over heat the motor

  • @MrMikeHousewert
    @MrMikeHousewert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After what we are going through with the Covid 19, I am glad to see you offer a VFD made in the USA. I have taken the position that when I buy something, I TRY to find it made elsewhere . . .and NOT in China, even if I have to pay a little more. HOWEVER, it is too frequently impossible to find what I need unless it is made in China.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes the preferred VFD is made in Florida! Can you believe that? 🇺🇸

    • @sudo_nym
      @sudo_nym 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mike Housewert
      Always try to buy something home grown.
      That translates to jobs for your neighbours!
      Everyone benefits!
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  • @abdulkhaliqelectricion1320
    @abdulkhaliqelectricion1320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent

  • @Bianchi77
    @Bianchi77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Creative video, thanks :)

  • @pbservano
    @pbservano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm using the same VFD bought from Ebay for approx. three years now...It can also be programmed to install a remote switch, for start/stop. forward and reverse switch and e-stop. The parameters has to be change in the VFD. I install the control box close the grinder and place the VFD farther away from the grinder to keep the VFD sucking up the metallic dust from grinding. Doing so will increase the longivity of these cheap chinese VFD.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good to know Pete. Thanks for sharing, did you have any info on how you programed the remote switch? I would like to take a look. Thanks again.

    • @pbservano
      @pbservano 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HouseMadeUS ....It should be on your inverter instruction that came with your inverter....First, you have to access the programming mode. See page 16 (Parameter Setting Procedure).... parameter P50 (x1 terminal), change to 19 for e-stop; P53 (x4 terminal) change to 5, forward; P54 (x5 terminal) change to 6, reverse; The forward and reverse should be on default 5 and 6 already...The only parameter you have to change is P50, default was 13 change to 19....On page 5 of the instruction, you have to purchase a 10 Kilo Ohms potentiometer, wired to com, Vl1/cI, and 10v/5v., this is for your frequency/speed control.... I ran total of seven (7) 20 AWG control wires for to the VFD. The terminals I am referring to are on page 5, see VFD schematic diagram, common, X1, X4 , and X5. I installed a separate box for 220VAC power. Ensure to programmed all parameters prior to wiring all switches. I had issues with the proramming when I had the switches in closed, and tried programming the parameters and the VFD will not store the data. The terminals are located on the top portion of the inverter. It is hard to see the terminal designation on the circuit board... Forgot to mention ..Parameter P10....change to 2; and P11...change to 2; Here's the link to my VFD powered grinder......th-cam.com/video/F_IH57VvJCs/w-d-xo.html

  • @roberthoyle2299
    @roberthoyle2299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got it hooked up. Nice video.
    Works great.
    Can I mount this under my table and have a filter to keep it clean.
    Has anyone mounted it away from the grind dust?
    Thanks Robert

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Best thing to do is to enclose the VFD in a box. That’s the best way. Glad it helped Robert. 💪🏻

    • @TheUnofficialMaker
      @TheUnofficialMaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HouseMadeUS Yes you can. They make special vfd cable that should be used if mounted further away.Belden 29501 14/3, plus Ground, Shielded VFD 1000V UL Flexible Motor Supply Cables $3/ft from Wire and cable your way.com This is used for the wire that runs from the VFD to the motor.

  • @moustafadurbauree3037
    @moustafadurbauree3037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    VERY GOOD

  • @thegreatwavetattoo
    @thegreatwavetattoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ordered it on amazon lol and the motor

  • @rh5971
    @rh5971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saving up the bucks! Could you please help us understand how loud the gizmo is? My wife and kids are in one end of the house and my workshop is in the other. I sleep four hours most nites and I love late nights in the shop but they complain about grinders, welders and even my plasma cutter! Lazy bums just have no respect. Anyway, how loud is this beast I am about to build? Love what you are doing and it helps us that are just trying to get production going up. Thank you! Blessings!

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s not loud until you start pushing steel into it. That said from far away it sounds more like white noise if that makes sense? I say go for it and grind all night! 😁

  • @douglasbattjes3991
    @douglasbattjes3991 ปีที่แล้ว

    That VFD you recommend isn't available any more , you have another you recommend ? Great video on the wiring, boy your hands are fast .

  • @MrExNavy
    @MrExNavy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure what you mean by a dust shield for the cord going into the motor. By code, it's supposed to have a connector. What kind of connector depends on where the motor will be located. Since it's most likely to be used inside, it doesn't have to be a rain tight connector but using one would still be ok. I love this belt grinder and plan on building one but I have a few things I need to build and sell before I can do it. Plan on ordering your kit for it too. The time savings for me by using the kit outweigh the cost of the kit.

    • @Stillpoint23
      @Stillpoint23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A standard box connector and some clear silicone caulk will work perfectly. An soow connector will work even better if using that as your supply/feed, however, you might have to enlarge the knockout to accommodate a 3/4" connector. S step drill will accomplish the task no problem

  • @Joseph-Colin-EXP
    @Joseph-Colin-EXP ปีที่แล้ว

    Just tried this myself and got the err1 code. Think the guts of my motor need to be rewired. Think it's 230, if I'm not mistaken , not the same voltage as the vfd output.

  • @onantx1
    @onantx1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The "shield" you are referring to for the peckerhead is called a "cgb" cord gripping bung

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ahhh very good. I was about to call it a thing-a-ma-jig, which is close. 😂

  • @johnle1465
    @johnle1465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @ZOREDA100
    @ZOREDA100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi great video¡¡¡¡ How can I connect an emergency stop button to that VDF? Thank you

  • @corybruce3023
    @corybruce3023 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was looking for the parts list for this build in the link, and can’t find it. I have same VFD and motor set up. Building my revolution gen 4 now and wanted to get supplies for the power supply. I basically need the plug type you use for the wall side. Any help would be appreciated. By the way this video is going to allow me to wire this up by myself, so thank you again for the great information!!!

  • @gwcstudio
    @gwcstudio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been grinding blades for 5 years with a 2x72 that runs at the same speed. The first thing you gotta ask yourself before you go VFD is if you need it.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  ปีที่แล้ว

      I need it. Saves time and material. But that's just me. I know not everyone does.

  • @nahumkivshani4575
    @nahumkivshani4575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lucky for me because here in my country 3 faze is standard at homes or workshops. so here we are used to it...

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah that must be nice. Shalom my friend! 👊🏻😁

    • @nahumkivshani4575
      @nahumkivshani4575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HouseMadeUS and the same to you too Brian

  • @1966cambo
    @1966cambo ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope to 1 day be able to afford to purchase your kit,love to own 1 but am broke as a joke so hoping lol

  • @christopherconkright1317
    @christopherconkright1317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am rewatching you could combine your grounds into one crimp

  • @evaderknives
    @evaderknives 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ended up wiring a seperate controller & switch for mine. After blowing 4 of them I moved the box as far away from the grinder as possible. The thing about these(I've said it before), they are like Russian Roulette, out of 5 of them I still have one that works, though I bought a 2nd KBAC, so I don't use it, but that 5th one lasted about 1 1/2 years. I actually have an extra 2hp motor too, but nothing to hook them up to hahaha. Hope all is well, take it easy.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that is a most definite thing. Dust will kill these things for sure. Hoping I get more than a year out of this beast. Ill keep the channel updated on that. Glad you are doing well Dave. Love following your work here and on IG and on FB. Peace brotha!

  • @paulmcgaffey9154
    @paulmcgaffey9154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brian, what loss of power / speed can I expect with the setup you demonstrate? Would it be approx ⅓ loss? Thanksfor your useful video, Paul

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think there is a power difference at all. I still run this setup next to the KBAC units and it holds true. Still very impressed. ⚡️⚡️⚡️

  • @markkoons7488
    @markkoons7488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More than forty years ago I started buying 3 ph equipment, most of it obsolete industrial machines. At first I synthesized 3 ph with a home-built rotary converter. I added utility-provided 3 ph as soon as I could afford the installation. That made sense when I was able to buy 3 ph power at residential rates. Now, in my new shop, the cost of 3 ph power is sobering. There is a monthly minimum several times greater than my actual usage. My store room holds more than a dozen perfectly good spare used motors none of which cost me more than $100 and that is a 15 hp Lincoln. The rest were $40 or less. Often they were free. Anyone wanting powerful, variable speed machinery ought to stick with single phase and outfit them with VFD drives.

  • @andrewmundenandcadfellmast4624
    @andrewmundenandcadfellmast4624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks remarkably easy. Can I ask the reason you used 10 guage wire for the input? Its only a 110v, single phase inverter, would an ordinary extension lead do the job just as well?

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've since dropped it down to 14 gauge.

  • @lesthom60
    @lesthom60 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi, Brian , can you show how to wire the more expensive VFD, $420 bucks one, thats the one that i got, also im trying to find the switch you show fitted to the VFD ? its not available at present, do you have a 2nd recommendation / any help is most appreciated , cheers Les. Glasgow.

  • @swordfish1120
    @swordfish1120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good vid. I have an old 2"x72" Burr King grinder that I bought primarily for sharpening my personal EDC knives. Any big benefit of running a VFD for this purpose?

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the motor a 3 phase motor? If so I like being able to control the speed of the belt. Burr kings are great btw.

    • @swordfish1120
      @swordfish1120 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HouseMadeUS No, I have a 1hp single phase motor so I'd have to buy a 3ph motor and VSD. I just didn't know if using this VSD setup has great benefit for sharpening knives and if its worth the investment?

  • @genenall1223
    @genenall1223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #dig_it the real craftsmen

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Gene. I appreciate that!

  • @Rprecision
    @Rprecision 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you ran your setup on 120V input? I have both in the shop but cor convenience of I need to move things around I have more 120V options. I'm not going to screw around with it, KBAC first time and be done!

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      KBAC will do both 120 or 220. It’s the way to go. 😁👊🏻 Buy once, Cry ONCE!! 😁

  • @WesKerbs
    @WesKerbs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video! I'm about to upgrade my treadmill motor and was wondering if that Chinese 110 VFD in your link would work with the 3hp Iron Horse motor (the 2hp is out of stock until September or later). Thanks and keep up these great videos!!!

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes that will work just fine the for the 3hp. Good luck and enjoy the power! 😁👊🏻

    • @WesKerbs
      @WesKerbs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HouseMadeUS Thanks Man! I pulled the trigger! Sorry to bother you again but as far as the cords go: do I get a 3 cord and a 4 cord in 12 gauge like I would for the 220 or is it something different? Again, sorry for the questions... You rock.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like 3/10 cord up to the VFD & 4/12 cord from the VFD to the motor. Enjoy. 👊🏻

    • @WesKerbs
      @WesKerbs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HouseMadeUS You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Love your videos and really appreciate you answering my annoying questions!

  • @stevenash5919
    @stevenash5919 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would I go about getting one of these for myself

  • @mikemcdonough1793
    @mikemcdonough1793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So my old 22v 3 Phase GE motors wires are marked T2 and two T3s, what is the T2 ? That would make Both T3s line, correct?

  • @derickrivero6658
    @derickrivero6658 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got all this wired up only to find that the 220 receptacle doesn't match the plug I bought. It's an Eaton Universal Angle plug 30/50amp 250v. Is there a different plug that can be wired on or do I need to change the receptacle to 3 wire?

  • @stevess356
    @stevess356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a brand new 3 HP 1175 RPM 200/400 Volt AC 3PH Motor. Will the Cheaper VFD 220 as listed for purchase on Amazon work good for this motor? Do you feel the RPM speed will be fast enough by control of the VFD? I like your work and if you give me some advice please do. Thanks

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The VFD will work for your motor yes. The RPM of that motor is definitely slower than what I would recommend for a belt grinder though. I like 3000+ for a grinder. Good luck! 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

  • @MrPtrvazq
    @MrPtrvazq ปีที่แล้ว

    did you have to adjust any parameter settings? finally wired mine...works..(no smoke!!) but not sure if I have to program it...

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  ปีที่แล้ว

      No programming required.

  • @joshwelch8288
    @joshwelch8288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got this same vfd for a 1 1/2 hp baldor pedestal grinder, i have 220v plugs ran in my shop on a 20 amp 220 breaker i was going to make a plug to plug into one of those outlets i dont think the amps go anywhere near 20 amps atleast for the grinder but i see you used 10guage wire is this bc the vfd draws 20amps or more? Or is it just bc of the power source you have in your shop? I also bought the plans for your belt grinder awhile back, been slowly accumulating material to build, still trying to figure out how to get the cnc cut list opened, but not a big deal i might do it all by hand anyways, cant wait to build it!! (Update) i see the vfd only draws 12amps at most so i should be good with the set up i already have. Thanks for the video!! Awesome that the cost of build has significantly dropped!

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use 14 gauge now for most VFDs. 12 or 10 for longer runs. The DXF files can be opened with Fusion 360 or any CAD program. Only really for CNC use though. Cheers and thanks!

  • @anibalcarvajal4048
    @anibalcarvajal4048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What mode speed drive is the cheaper VFD for a 2x72 Belt Grinder Build

  • @GrimL3
    @GrimL3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brian, love the channel, I've recently completed my first build, and it runs great! but when i run at low speed for an extended amount of time, like 15min , this VFD spits an overheating error.
    you think this is just something i'll always deal with? or possible faulty wiring, electrical stuff like that is way above my paygrade haha, i bought the cheap motor you suggested on Ebay, i haven't had the VFD long enough to be gunked up that much to reduce cooling

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Might be a wiring issue but sound more like a cooling problem possibly a bad VFD. Have you tried just having a fan blow on it? Might tell the tale and help troubleshoot

    • @GrimL3
      @GrimL3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HouseMadeUS Thanks for the reply! i had the L1 and L3 wires from the motor on the wrong terminals to the VFD, also discovered my motor is slightly different in that its variable torque rating is 4:1 and not 10:1 so it doesn't like being slowed down for extended periods, since the wiring change though i haven't had the error code trip again, hoping for the best! definitely will be buying the Iron horse if i continue to see problems

  • @SuperDalite
    @SuperDalite 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is an older video, but I’m looking at running 220v into my garage and using a three phase 5HP air compressor with a VFD. Have you heard of or had experience doing this as air compressors tend to have larger load on them as I am told.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would think it would work yes, just want to make sure the loads are correct as far as amperage goes. Sometimes they are rated by HP.

  • @luigimaggi
    @luigimaggi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got a single fase motor? Is it possible to change the speed of it using something similar to that vfd?

  • @handdancin
    @handdancin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    whats the best way to get the incoming power ground and the motor ground on the one terminal on the vfd, i hate bending the crimp connectors like that

  • @mortislaevus4069
    @mortislaevus4069 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoughts on lower-RPM motors (1725-1800) vs. higher-RPM motors (3450+) with this setup?

  • @michelheroux6871
    @michelheroux6871 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had this VFD on my 2x72 belt grinder for 10 months and I just short circuit it with an electrostatic discharge from a finger; as you said, not expensive. The VFD will be replaced by a KABC 27D.

  • @philippboetcher9959
    @philippboetcher9959 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would really help if you would explain the electrical thinking behind the connections you made, colors in cables vary. I was hoping to understand the wiring better but can't really say it helped me a lot.....

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Make sure to look at the wiring diagram. That is very helpful, colors do vary which is why I tell people to use the T numbers.

  • @MrOilcountry
    @MrOilcountry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should an AC reactor also???

  • @alk5749
    @alk5749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brian, did you program any of the “P” values and if so which ones?

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No I leave the unit stock. Works great

  • @Editnamehere
    @Editnamehere ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you run multiple 3 phase motors from one VFD?

  • @SHRIMP11112
    @SHRIMP11112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are there any vfd that can control 2 different motors by just flipping a switch or pushing a button.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not that I know of but I have seen where they put a switch between the motors and just flip it to allow for the VFD to control one at a time.

  • @mikeperry2323
    @mikeperry2323 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will the vfd work on 3hp Baldor? Also I used 10" instead pf 9" posts. Will the 12 inch Baldor work? Could not find inexpensive motor anywhere.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here is an alternative motor that will work with your setup: amzn.to/36icN9X

  • @juh8890
    @juh8890 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an old abrasive 1 1/2 surface grinder rated at 1hp, 220v/440v, 3.1A/1.55A 3ph will this type of setup work for me? what should the wire size going to my outlets from the breaker box be? Only 110v outlets currently.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes this will work fine. I always run 10 gauge wire for a 220 outlet. Enjoy!!

  • @jjforeal2
    @jjforeal2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    13:22 I have a similar vfd and I don’t think it’s 32% power. I think it 32hz out of probably 60-65hz which is factory settings top end for these guys. Never mind while I was typing you caught it 😂

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha! Yeah I am not a quick learner. I do eventually get it. LOL.

  • @watahyahknow
    @watahyahknow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you have a 3 phase 1000watt motor hooked up to a vfd how mush amps will the vfd draw from the 220 source when you load the motor down a little ? (milling machine)

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the motor but in my case it’s about 5-6 amps.

  • @carlopiaia2144
    @carlopiaia2144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brian you need to put your backing plate for the belt out farther out, to make contact with the belt, and you should put a slight radius at the ends of the plate.
    If you were sanding a square piece of metal and you pressed it up against the backing plate, your part would be convex
    really fast.

  • @garycooper4964
    @garycooper4964 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the programing is it pre programed for 60hz also the speed RPM of motor etc. does it not need to be programed in ? does the instructions tell you what program numbers to adjust for Hz ,RPM, amps in and output % ,voltage, etc. ?

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are plug and play and require no programming.

  • @flatlandervs.
    @flatlandervs. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m getting some wild “vibration” as the motor speeds up, I am running program p00.00. Didn’t see the same with yours, also my VFD only goes to 50 hz out of the box . Any suggestions?

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The vibration is most likely coming from a bent shaft in the motor. Also make sure you set the VFD to 60hz. On my VFD there is zero programming required. Wire it up and go. Good luck. 💪🏻

  • @DoCoolShit
    @DoCoolShit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there any way to do this setup but with a 110 V input

  • @richardtullius6419
    @richardtullius6419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    House / Work I thought that might be your answer but not a good idea, it’s about circuit protection, not about what is convenient. I love your grinder and expect to buy the kit in the very near future so I’m not here just to rag on you. You are looking for perfection in your grinder but you need to understand a little more about the electrical side. The NEC says the receptacle must match what is being plugged into it, and the circuit breaker is sized by the receptacle amp rating, it’s about safety and fire protection, plugging a 20 amp motor into a 50 amp circuit means the motor will burn to the ground long before the 50 amp circuit breaker trips. Please call a electrician and have them install the proper receptacle. This advice comes from a retired electrical contractor with 40+ years of experience. Keep the videos coming, keep improving your grinder.

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hi Richard, thank you for your help man. After I read this I swapped out the 40amp for a 30 amp and made a dedicated circuit for the grinders. That way I am not sharing the plug with my bigger gear. I appreciate you taking the time to comment and give direction that I can use! Many Many thanks.

    • @Immolate62
      @Immolate62 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HouseMadeUS Humility is an attractive quality, even if you have to work at it.

  • @jonathandehors2684
    @jonathandehors2684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you plan to show how to make a separate control box to wire in a potentiometer, forward/reverse and run/stop switch? I'm on the struggle bus lol

    • @HouseMadeUS
      @HouseMadeUS  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jonathan, this VFD has a separate control box already. It pops out and they even give you a 6ft long cord. All the buttons work. No need for anything more! 💪🏻😁

    • @jonathandehors2684
      @jonathandehors2684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HouseMadeUS Yeah i was stupid and bought a Morphon one before you posted the video. And the control I have doesn't have a dial for the potentiometer, just arrows. And I'd like a large emergency stop. The low volt part isn't the same as yours, or any videos I find online. No worries, just thought I'd ask. Thanks for the reply

  • @christopherconkright1317
    @christopherconkright1317 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't have 220v currently I may need to start with just a 110 motor