Perhaps not in the opinion. Never make the mistake of thinking what they want is the same as what we want, ergo, what perceive as failure could be according Tory planning.
@@Red-Revolution708 Speak for yourself. The Tories are no better then Labour - their only difference in operandi is method. And you want to know who to blame more? People who actually believe in voting with the belief the system works.
@@jimcourt9164 This is a classic argument , "Yeah things are terrible, but this totally untested leader might be even worse maybe, so it's safer to stick with the corrupt, incompetent, lying , bullying , lazy, hateful shower of public schoolboys we already have."
Her last appearance on LBC was with Israeli Government Spokesman, Avi Hyman. It seems LBC received 4000+ complaints so we can only guess what happened.
This caller would almost certainly say we should "help our own", and yet find a way why every demographic we could help in this country like parents with childcare needs, those in poverty, hungry school kids and young people who cant afford a house shouldn't be helped.
These are the sorts of people that believe being financially stable only comes about by "hard work" because they believe that's what they did and everyone should do the same however if you were to know their background in all likelyhood somewhere along the line they were helped along the way by parents etc. Same with so many wealthy people portrayed in the media as self made where in fact in most cases it's a myth.
The ‘Dunning-Kruger Effect’ effect is the phenomenon of normal people who now feel obliged to mention the Dunning-Kruger Effect in every social media post.
@@iangascoigne8231 To associate someone getting her name wrong with some sort of racism on the callers part is ignorant, or she is disgustingly dishonest. If the left had any argument in the immigration case, they would not have to resort to such dishonesty.
You are right I would even go as far as to say how thick some people are. They blame all our problems on 8429 asylum seekers crossing by small boat from France to the uk. The uk government are rubbing their hands with glee at how triggered uk voters are getting about blaming this small number of people for our housing crisis NHS crisis cost of living crisis etc etc taking the spotlight away from who is really to blame. THE TORY GOVERNMENT
During past 4 years while Channel asylum seekers have reached over 100,000 the government has actually issued over 2.5 million visas for overseas residents to legally reside in the U.K. This includes visas for work, family reunion, study and refugees from Ukraine, Hong Kong, Afghanistan, Syria and Africa. In the year to June 2022 over 1.2 million such visas were issued with net migration reaching a post Brexit high of 660,000. Yet Robert Jenrick wants the British public to believe that it is the boat arrivals who are responsible for putting unsustainable pressure on housing, health, education and other public services. Government gaslighting on an epic scale !!!.
When they do it again and again and again, when the figure is a public figure whom the caller has called in *to speak with*, then the caller is responsible for deliver on that basic point of respect. If a caller can't even bother to properly address the person who is giving them this platform then that caller isn't serious.
Yes OK , if this is repeated then it is wrong. It is the first time I saw the show. If the man did it again and again then yes I agree that is wrong.@@Sardonac
@@ashleytravel5829I would understand if you were talking to a member of public, but Sangita is a fairly renowned presenter on the platform. They introduce themselves, and as Sangita said, she had been on the platform since September the previous year, so hes had a while to get her name right. I understand that people can get names wrong, and I've done it several times. But when someone corrects you multiple times, and is a fairly public figure, then it's not acceptable to keep getting it wrong. I doubt he would get someone like Boris Johnsons name wrong
Which was never the point the caller made, or anyone I've ever spoken to has either. You people seem to imagine bizarre arguments are being made when they're not. Fortunately for Sangita (think the name is right) doesn't need to be intelligent to be a presenter or journalist, just entertaining To people who like to think they're smart
Oh gawd - Jonathan's knuckles must have really hurt after dragging them on the rubble of Bishops Stortford's unrepaired streets for so long... Essix's finest, innit!
I consider these callers pretzel conversationalist. Twisting and winding in upon themselves without realizing their point of view has some very large holes.
@@zomgenberg Points of view are argued and developed over conversation as well as self reflection, not just a dismissal. His argument was just a means to name call someone with a different opinion to his own - if it even is at this point.
@@The_Phoenix_Saga You should have lead with your second statement. This is very true and a great thing to point out. It doesn't change that your previous message didn't really explain, what you were trying to convey that well. The second message is way better. There is a certain type of people who you can arguably stop caring about because of their own actions. This is idealists. The people that he is talking about isn't these people. They just haven't fully built their argument and removed as many flaws as possible. Arguably people shouldn't call in to something like this unless they have the fundamentals in place. Still, you are absolutely correct.
Ukrainian immigration into the UK since Feb 2022 sits around 200,000. Your population is 67M people. So that's 0.3% of your population. Zero point three percent of the people are causing all the problems over there? Riiiiiight. Wake up!
France took in the least Ukranias despite being closer to Poland, a lot went to England and Germany. In November last year it was reported that as many as 650,000 Ukrainians of military age have left the country since the war began.
Sangita you are one of the bravest and courageous lady on this world... will miss you so much, please come back ..you have the guts and courage to talk against these folks.
The housing problem is because large companies and landlords have purchased starter homes to rent out for high rents. The fitst time buyers can't afford to get on the housing ladder unless they can save a huge deposit! Also the developers are building flats, again outside the reach of average people.
@@Jackie-ji2sj I think this is probably because you have colonised those lands and they speak English rather than French. They may also have some family members already in the UK.
Personally I'm frustrated that so many fellow Brits are so easily lied to. This caller has heard all his views from The Daily Mail and Farage et al and BELIEVED their bs. That's whats frustrating - on average we're so thick now its mind-boggling. We're like the fly-over states in America.
@@GH-pt3eghe believes EVERYTHING he sees with his own eyes, including the lies from the daily mail, hes really fast to deny that the problem isnt what it is and is using immigrants as a scapegoat to cover his prominent racism.
4% just 4% of the landmass of Britain is housing. Same as golf courses and parks. We're not overcrowded. Not by a long way. The possibilities of Britain are endless. But the landowners don't want that. Oh no.
It's also the distribution of wealth. The system. The money needed is locked up. Unless you can redistribute that somehow or something convince very rich landowners to build affordable housing and subsidize the NHS nothing will change anything.
Yep exactly shame we need to grow food and have water and plants to generate oxygen to fight global warming. Lets pave over it all and let all in regardless.
@@ptv8113 I'm with you.. There's lots of ways to redistribute wealth. Tax the richest. For one. Put a cap on profits. Stop the rich buying up all the housing. Limit ownership of the media, to people who live in Britain. Support workers not owners. Take money out of politics. Ban offshore billionaires donating to party politics. End the second chamber, house of lords. Make power accountable, to the PEOPLE! NOT CORPORATION'S..
@@anap7830 Who said to pave over it all? This is the problem in this country. Nobody can just have a discussion. Someone makes a fair point and you go straight to the extreme of paving everything over and destroying the world. Who said leave it all over? Nobody.
She literally says that they need to be processed to determine WHETHER they are in need and then provided for accordingly, whether. If you think she's saying that every applicant should qualify for protections then you're imagining things bud @@TheDanielb554
That's exactly the problem: it takes five years to process because this Conservative government has done such a trash job of running the system. Budget cuts lead to fewer and poorer services -- who knew! Literally everyone but this government apparently@@honeybunch6473
We’re under the Human Rights’s Convention. As are France. And there’s no obligation to apply in the first safe country. Do people not have access to Google? Look it up!
I would like to see the countrys that these illegal immigrants are coming from as i have not seen or heard about wars,if there was it would be on the news,apart from russia and Ukraine
Simple reason this country is perceived as "Full" or "overcrowded." Housing policy. Building homes for genuinely affordable rent and not for sale unless a minimum tenancy has been met in that the amount of rent paid by the tenant over all is equivalent to the cost of the original build paid by the local authority, thus allowing them to stay as homes and not safe deposit boxes or pension top up facilities or even worse, in the hands of private landlords. a large portion of ex Council houses and flats are now owned by "slum landlords" the eradication of which was the very reason they were built in the first place.
In 2022 the USA (432,322), Germany (217,673), Costa Rica, Spain, Mexico, France (115,078), Austria, Russia and Canada all received more applications for asylum than the UK (89,146).
people need to learn a lot, but one thing that is crucial is to learn their own sociohistorical situation. If they knew what that is, they'd know that there is a perfectly valid argument that people coming to britain in boats is "our problem".
Sangita was unable to communicate her wish for being addressed by her correct name effectively. The attempted correction was in the context of disagreement and done with irritation. No where did she state what her actual name is. The so-called 'shut down' was done well after a lengthy conversation in which apparent disagreement was fully established. Sangita made a pathetic performance here.
The caller does not seem to know that turning back asylum seekers from a safe EU country is a legal right of EU member countries. The UK lost the right to turn back asylum seekers to the first country of safety when it left the EU.
I tried to get benefits about 10 years ago and it was nigh on impossible. People who think it's easy don't know what they're on about. I didn't get a penny. Still had to sign on and go on ridiculous 'training' courses led by people who were barely literate. It was like what I imagine being on probation is like - except my case worker didn't even know my name and my only crime was being poor.
The caller takes a position shared by many in the UK, who think they are entitled to their splendid isolation. Clearly, the solution he suggests leads inevitably to Britain leaving the ECHR. The EU should very soon attach a price tag to this demand: it cannot be that UK subjects enjoy free travel across the Continent if they believe that the refugee problem is for the EU to solve on its own. So once the UK abandons its international obligations w.r.t. refugees, a strict visa regime must be introduced. And if necessary, it must be enforced by incarcerting those Brits who enter the EU illegally.
Right on. I endured three years’ employment at the BBC in London, working with colleagues who changed my very simple name to nicknames or variations. It’s not just laziness, it’s not always racism or political, it’s English arrogance/abuse/aggression toward anyone perceived as foreign.
@@leslie-annmills-gomez8763 so people are being horrible when they shorten someone's name to Terry or John? It's just normal and you have to try really hard to find insult in that.
Sangita Myska, Awesome presenter, like a breath of fresh air on LBC, always engaging and thought provoking, brilliant radio. Touches the parts of the nation that other broadcasters cant reach and if they do they cant handle as well. Top lady.
This presenter hasn't got a clue. She said there is a backlog. The reason there is a backlog is because there are too many people coming here. Bring back katie Hopkins she said it how it is. This woman is to masculine, would she talk to her boss like that?
This reminds me of Ali taunting Terrell by asking, 'What's my name?' Sangita Myska drives this point home as well. Learn my name, and then we can talk. Perfect.
@@rolandhawken6628 The 'Let'sConTheBritishPublic' is ironic ... By pulling of the EU, how much money was said to be pouring into the NHS each week ...? How many new hospitals were going to be built (despite, to name one instance, The Middlesex Hospital - where my sister and I both had had to have complex spinal surgeries be done - was demolished, and now is a posh housing complex ...) ...? Not only that, but even Primary Care is in crisis, as what few junior doctors there are, even fewer are going in General Practice, as a) you have to know the entirety of Internal Medicine, from that of a days - weeks old baby, to that of a 90+ year old ... And then there's always the clinical write ups they have to make on each patient that they saw that day, so they can remind themselves of what the patient came in for the last time; also prescription approval of, which shouldn't be treated as a rubber stamp ... especially if emergent contraindications occur ... and that was long before the migrant crisis became a _signifigant_ issue ...
Clutching at straws aren't you? She reacted that way to highlight his ignorance and prejudice; and it worked a treat. If he had made a simple mistake, he would have corrected himself. He refused to, showing him to be the bigot he appeared. Friend of yours?
My name is Asunción Agulló, and I have never in my whole life met a single British or native English speaker who pronounces it correctly. And I have never got angry at any of them.
My name is spelt wrong at births , no one gets it right but I don’t get upset either, I think that was trivial. When someone deliberately Cant say the name that’s bad. But some people genuinely can’t pronounce certain names
Her name was San-Gi-Ta. 3 simple syllables. No offense but, it's not others' fault for, not being born into an ancient cult that casts spells, to get your name right.
First time I have come across media featuring her and I have to say: Patience of a Saint, facts on her side, professional handling of this call; I applaud Sangita Myska for her conduct and am looking forward to more content!
This man is so biased and ill informed. Someone should tell this so and so that UK is a signatory to the international convention on refugees treaty, 1952.
I get his point. If you have difficulties with feeding and looking after the people in your home, you can't take in more and make it more difficult for everyone already struggling to survive in your house. I'm Indian, I don't live in the UK, but i see his point. It's perfectly valid. There is no easy moral solution, but it's a valid point. If you have a backlog in processing, don't take in more, shoving them into limited space and then have issues because they are living in overcrowded conditions.
She is using the name thing 5:41. Anyone can lose the name during the conversation. He said Sunita, which is also an Indian name, which means he doesn't have a problem with Indian names. But she put it like that.
Im with the caller, rather than the host who has benifitted to our system, who has got the job because her race and attiitude, as displayed. ps has she been female castrated . Its quite common in the UK, even though it is outlawed. we in the UK call it Child cruelty, to put it mildly
Sangita went way way off topic, and became almost so offended that he mispronounced her name which to me looked like a genuine accident. At the end of the day, he was expressing his opinion which she clearly was getting emotional about. She was offended mainly at the point he was making, and took it out on the name thing. I think it was quite egocentric at her point, and that was proved by this was whole thing about 'winning the argument'. It's a debate right? When you come down to it, its a shared place of opinions (respectfully). Right or wrong, does not equal 'winning'. Healthy debates give room for both parties to learn. When you're bringing 'winning', you're bringing ego into this. It was pretty childish if you ask me. He might have actually accidentally genuinely mispronounced her name, which wasn't his fault. She then hampered on at him like a school teacher does to a child. He didn't even get a chance to listen to her pronounce it correctly. At the end of the day, anyone who raises the energy like they both did will be seeing as being emotional. Which is exactly what it was - An emotionally heated exchange. The caller did try to keep to the debated points (albeit emotionally/ egotistically with the whole you're wrong, I'm right thing), which is where this whole thing should've been kept anyway. Could've been easily avoided in my opinion.
LOL I assume you listen to the show which means you would know her name is mentioned at least once every 15 minutes. In fact, her name was also brought up a couple times during the call so the caller does know what her name sounds like. It's basic respect to pronounce people's names correctly, and in general England is very far behind in this respect compared to other countries like Scotland.
as a first time viewer, it's most telling that this LBC channel chooses to highlight "rudeness" rather than concentrate on the topic being discussed. the caller is (IMO clearly) xenophobic but the presenter went off the rails at the end (of this video) just listing the things the caller was "wrong about" and decided it wasn't worth continuing and decided to switch to 'lack of respect' as the reason to end the conversation. all in all, just a clickbait video and nothing to do with improving the debate.
@@binsarm9026 calling it a xenophobic act seems way too extreme, I think he just mispronounced it, it’s not really that big of a deal. I have a 10 letter first name from poc but if somebody misspelled or pronounced it, I wouldn’t go so far as to call them xenophobic.
She was quite fair in her manners, on the other hand Mr caller was Taking so much effort just to prove her wrong when outrageously missing her statement in many ways. Besides, misspeaking her name two Times! that IS a Really rude, she was right All along to terminate the call.
She was nasty and aggressive because she was losing the argument. She needs to get that chip off her shoulder. One more thing, Sanghita, the first thing you do when entering a country you want to live in is not to break the law. You didn’t break the law Sanghita when you left the country you were born in to come here. However, that’s precisely what these illegal immigrants did when they chose of their volition to pay criminals thousands of euros to illegally cross into the territorial waters of a sovereign country without authorisation. This in itself is a criminal offence which automatically makes these illegal immigrants criminals, therefore they should be prosecuted and deported instead of rewarded.
I think the people here illegally should be sent back, they are here illegally and therefore we shouldn't give them benefits. Then get people from those countries who didn't break the law and ask them if they want to come over here instead, reward them with that opportunity for not breaking the law to get here, that would stop all of this I've not got any major issue with people from war torn countries coming, but people who are only coming over for the sake of it. Also we need to sort ourselves out before taking in anyone else
I agree, but there needs to be a legal route first. If there was a legal route to begin with, you wouldn't have so many coming in the wrong way. Thank your Tories for that.
The Brits colonized countries illegally one after another, massive lands such as USA, Canada, Australia, Greenland, Iceland, New Zealand, and tons of smaller countries and islands. Now you cry fowl? I don't know what to say
That's what an application process determines. Our previous government seemed determined to block those so all those people in temporary accommodation aren't even 'illegal immigrants' (people who have arrived in the country and had their asylum application process fail) but are unprocessed asylum claimants who might have their applications passed or failed. There was a backlog of 100,000+ of those a couple of years back. That's a complete dereliction of duty on the part of government to have that sort of backlog. Have a tough system or have an easy system but have a functioning system, whichever way.
@JamesMc2051 difficult to have a functioning system with the clowns of politicians we've got, I think the irony is that the working class have more political sense than the career politicians that we all vote in
He's old. Who does he expect to care for him when he needs help? Too many people? In many countries asylum seekers can work if they are waiting for over 6 months for a decision. Here they wait for years and Daily Mail parrots like this one blame them for not contributing! Crazy.😊
Lol. They're both wrong. The name thing was her way to attempt to avoid the debate, because both of them were mixing up their arguments. They start with telling the other person "you're absolutely right" or "I agree with you...", then into the debate they start arguing against what the other person actually agrees with. Funny and petty debate.
What a cheap cop out from someone who values presenting virtue above common sense. She was losing the argument and like all foolish women will have an epiphany of mind if she encounters one of her chosen people in an unwanted encounter.
It's also not just population increase that means the NHS needs more funding. Number of times I see people question why the NHS needs ever more funding like other countries and yet they never consider that we have an aging population that requires more care and then we also have advances in medicine, technology and treatments that cost vast sums of money but allow people to live longer and they all need to be paid for.
@@David-bi6lfOther countries seem to fund their health care perfectly adequately. I don’t read stories about France, Germany or Australia having difficulties with their health systems. Perhaps it’s because their governments aren’t corrupt to the core, and actually care about the public they are meant to serve.
The Tories have broken everything they have touched.
This is not a Tory problem THIS IS GLOBAL, THEY ARE DELIBERATELY DILUTING US
And Labour let them do it - how else could the Tories have gotten in, back in 2010.
Perhaps not in the opinion. Never make the mistake of thinking what they want is the same as what we want, ergo, what perceive as failure could be according Tory planning.
@@The_Phoenix_Saga Grow up the Tories have wrecked this country.
@@Red-Revolution708 Speak for yourself. The Tories are no better then Labour - their only difference in operandi is method.
And you want to know who to blame more? People who actually believe in voting with the belief the system works.
I could cry at the level the Tories have brought this country to.
Wait until Sir Starmer is at the helm .. 700 a day will become 1700 a day
@@jimcourt9164 This is a classic argument , "Yeah things are terrible, but this totally untested leader might be even worse maybe, so it's safer to stick with the corrupt, incompetent, lying , bullying , lazy, hateful shower of public schoolboys we already have."
@@jimcourt9164ok boomer
I hate to see a grown man cry
@@jimcourt9164You're right though, the boomers know it.
Sangita's name is well known now!! Bring her back....
You mean Sinita?
@@josephclift3662Sangria, I think?
If the system is collapsing why exacerbate the problem by putting more strain on the system ?
Johnathan’s right. Sangita is deluded.
Her last appearance on LBC was with Israeli Government Spokesman, Avi Hyman. It seems LBC received 4000+ complaints so we can only guess what happened.
Why blame the Tories when you can scapegoat the world's most vulnerable people?
Who are the world's most vulnerable people?
Definitely not those with £1000's to spare.
It's ridiculous isn't it blaming people coming over on boats instead of the government who are actually in charge of the country.
@@trytellingthetruth.2068What's money got to do with vulnerability?
@@trytellingthetruth.2068do you think money makes your vulnerability go away?
@elaineread....least you are helping out at local foodbanks and not just virtue signalling...😊
This caller would almost certainly say we should "help our own", and yet find a way why every demographic we could help in this country like parents with childcare needs, those in poverty, hungry school kids and young people who cant afford a house shouldn't be helped.
What wrong with saying "help your own"? Why is leftist ideology so ridiculous and contradictory?
These are the sorts of people that believe being financially stable only comes about by "hard work" because they believe that's what they did and everyone should do the same however if you were to know their background in all likelyhood somewhere along the line they were helped along the way by parents etc. Same with so many wealthy people portrayed in the media as self made where in fact in most cases it's a myth.
Exactly!
@@David-bi6lfI worked hard waiting for my inheritance. Not easy you know sitting and waiting. Have some compassion.
@@David-bi6lf More likely he was a mediocre employee and was protected by the union.
"I won't mention my local MP, as I don't want to be identified through this call".
- Johnathan, *Bishop's Stortford*
Presumably there’s only one Johnathan in the constituency, not a common name at all
Lol I mean it narrows the field
@@jsworpinYes but you can identify the MP for Bishop's Stortford by googling who it is. That's who Jonathan wanted to keep anonymous, not himself.
Lol though as much.
@@jsworpinNumpty.. that wasn't the point.
"The Dunning-Kruger effect is a type of cognitive bias in which people believe they are smarter and more capable than they are."
Thats every human being.
The ‘Dunning-Kruger Effect’ effect is the phenomenon of normal people who now feel obliged to mention the Dunning-Kruger Effect in every social media post.
@@chockergramno that's not what it is. I think you are experiencing it
It's not, actually. There's a U shaped curve with confidence in one's opinion and actual level of knowledge.
🤣🤣🤣 spot on 👍
Here's a sobering thought: the UK caused many of the hardships that are forcing people to flee their countries in the first place!
Bring back Sangita! Wonderful.
The ignorance is astonishing.
From Sangita, that is correct.
@@davidgreen6490How is she ignorant?
@@iangascoigne8231 To associate someone getting her name wrong with some sort of racism on the callers part is ignorant, or she is disgustingly dishonest.
If the left had any argument in the immigration case, they would not have to resort to such dishonesty.
@@iangascoigne8231Race-baiting Presenter.
You are right I would even go as far as to say how thick some people are. They blame all our problems on 8429 asylum seekers crossing by small boat from France to the uk. The uk government are rubbing their hands with glee at how triggered uk voters are getting about blaming this small number of people for our housing crisis NHS crisis cost of living crisis etc etc taking the spotlight away from who is really to blame.
THE TORY GOVERNMENT
During past 4 years while Channel asylum seekers have reached over 100,000 the government has actually issued over 2.5 million visas for overseas residents to legally reside in the U.K. This includes visas for work, family reunion, study and refugees from Ukraine, Hong Kong, Afghanistan, Syria and Africa. In the year to June 2022 over 1.2 million such visas were issued with net migration reaching a post Brexit high of 660,000. Yet Robert Jenrick wants the British public to believe that it is the boat arrivals who are responsible for putting unsustainable pressure on housing, health, education and other public services. Government gaslighting on an epic scale !!!.
The boat arrivals have the advantage for this government of being able to attack the EU at the same time.
What about the illegals?
Those figures do not account for them.
Fake news.
How very true 🙂👍
Great comment and I've read yours after I've made similar points😅
If a person ACCIDENTALLY pronounces someone's name incorrectly this does not make them rude or disrespectful but if it is INTENTIONAL then it is.
When they do it again and again and again, when the figure is a public figure whom the caller has called in *to speak with*, then the caller is responsible for deliver on that basic point of respect. If a caller can't even bother to properly address the person who is giving them this platform then that caller isn't serious.
Yes OK , if this is repeated then it is wrong. It is the first time I saw the show. If the man did it again and again then yes I agree that is wrong.@@Sardonac
If I don't know someone's name I do start by saying excuse me but how do you pronounce your name?
@@ashleytravel5829I would understand if you were talking to a member of public, but Sangita is a fairly renowned presenter on the platform. They introduce themselves, and as Sangita said, she had been on the platform since September the previous year, so hes had a while to get her name right.
I understand that people can get names wrong, and I've done it several times. But when someone corrects you multiple times, and is a fairly public figure, then it's not acceptable to keep getting it wrong.
I doubt he would get someone like Boris Johnsons name wrong
@@ashleytravel5829he pronounced it several times incorrectly on the call. And I bet it was deliberate, it’s a micro aggression.
The well manners she has is a class apart.
The Dunning kruger effect is strong in this one!
Dunning-Kruger. We desperately need to teach more people about this concept
The thick as mince concept too
7.47m on the NHS waiting list, and 100,000 asylum seekers in 5 years is 0.134% , and that's if every single one of them goes on an NHS waiting list!
Which was never the point the caller made, or anyone I've ever spoken to has either. You people seem to imagine bizarre arguments are being made when they're not. Fortunately for Sangita (think the name is right) doesn't need to be intelligent to be a presenter or journalist, just entertaining To people who like to think they're smart
Yes exactly! it is not helping the situation at all. Send them back!
Irrelevant point but you forgot to times the %. It's either 1.34% or 0.0134 not in between.
Oh gawd - Jonathan's knuckles must have really hurt after dragging them on the rubble of Bishops Stortford's unrepaired streets for so long... Essix's finest, innit!
Hertfordshire
@@chetmanley1885 just...
I consider these callers pretzel conversationalist. Twisting and winding in upon themselves without realizing their point of view has some very large holes.
What holes are there in this country going to ruin before our very eyes!! This is global and by design!!
So they need to just "Shut up and not think for themselves; just accept what they're told" Is that what you're proposing?
@@The_Phoenix_Saga which comment are you reacting to? Cuz dansullivan6825 made no such suggestion.
@@zomgenberg Points of view are argued and developed over conversation as well as self reflection, not just a dismissal. His argument was just a means to name call someone with a different opinion to his own - if it even is at this point.
@@The_Phoenix_Saga You should have lead with your second statement. This is very true and a great thing to point out. It doesn't change that your previous message didn't really explain, what you were trying to convey that well. The second message is way better. There is a certain type of people who you can arguably stop caring about because of their own actions. This is idealists. The people that he is talking about isn't these people. They just haven't fully built their argument and removed as many flaws as possible. Arguably people shouldn't call in to something like this unless they have the fundamentals in place. Still, you are absolutely correct.
Explain how Ukrainians can pass through safe countries like Poland to get to England.
Ukrainian immigration into the UK since Feb 2022 sits around 200,000. Your population is 67M people. So that's 0.3% of your population. Zero point three percent of the people are causing all the problems over there? Riiiiiight. Wake up!
Plenty of them stayed in Poland and other countries too. Poland can't take all 6 million people at once.
France took in the least Ukranias despite being closer to Poland, a lot went to England and Germany. In November last year it was reported that as many as 650,000 Ukrainians of military age have left the country since the war began.
It's like this Johnathan was reading a long list of headlines off The Sun newspaper.
...the DM got a day off today...?😊
Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Express, and watching hours and hours of GB news. 🙂🙂🙂
@@AnnaHolley-f7y ...youve been busy..🙂
To be fair he did explicitly say he didn't believe those things
I do
Sangita you are one of the bravest and courageous lady on this world... will miss you so much, please come back ..you have the guts and courage to talk against these folks.
she can come back selling Hamas flags in East London
@@bigbinji6145 what does a Hamas flag look like?
Nothing beats the smell of sizzling gammon
Have you seen your face?
Spot on 👌🏼
...shouldn't you be helping out at the foodbanks and making yourself useful...!
Just have a look the mirror 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He is self-loathing though, so it is fine@@tylerr-zj8ou
I have never witnessed "thank you very much indeed" meaning "take a long walk off a short pier" so succinctly.
If he did that then he wouldn’t be able to call again would he.
If ì was fleeing a war zone i don't think staying in a hotel in a safe country wasn't such a bad deal
if indeed you were fleeing a warzone ... none of them are there fleeing france because they think everything is free here hands out .
The housing problem is because large companies and landlords have purchased starter homes to rent out for high rents. The fitst time buyers can't afford to get on the housing ladder unless they can save a huge deposit! Also the developers are building flats, again outside the reach of average people.
Well yes but it's mostly because the boomer generation have locked up all our homes
I am french and you get a lot more benefits in france than you do in the uk....FACT.
So why the scranble to get to the UK?
@@Jackie-ji2sj I think this is probably because you have colonised those lands and they speak English rather than French. They may also have some family members already in the UK.
He won't say your name because he thinks you are beneath him.
He should know his Ancestors were thieves
Saying this comment is just as bad as anything the right says. History is History we can't change that.
Our country so deeply divided because the call is speaking for a lot of British people who are frustrated
Personally I'm frustrated that so many fellow Brits are so easily lied to. This caller has heard all his views from The Daily Mail and Farage et al and BELIEVED their bs. That's whats frustrating - on average we're so thick now its mind-boggling. We're like the fly-over states in America.
you make a lot of assumptions. He might be believing what he sees WITH HIS OWN EYES, like a lot of us@@bannjaxx
And they're blaming the wrong people.
@@GH-pt3eghe believes EVERYTHING he sees with his own eyes, including the lies from the daily mail, hes really fast to deny that the problem isnt what it is and is using immigrants as a scapegoat to cover his prominent racism.
I wish they'd been frustrated back a decade and a bit ago. We might have had better government since and a stronger economy now.
Indian woman of Indian heritage wants more Indians to come and live here . Got it
she definitely didnt say that
I recently was spoke with a lovely Syrian doctor at my local surgery. He sought refuge in this country.
They are all doctors and engineers
@@pincermovement72quite intelligent people, right!
@@misssummersalttaking our jobs more like
@@pincermovement72 All of them ?
@@johnirving3084are you qualified enough to be a doctor or an engineer?
What's my name, what's my, what's my name....Jonathan 😂. Listen to him squirm; Jonathan you got spanked.
European countries now experiencing Karma from extremely evil deeds of colonialism.
1600's white slavery my white ancestors were slaves 😡
The caller is right, we don't want them here, and they are a big problem!
Well most of us with any sense that is!
Grow up, son.
4% just 4% of the landmass of Britain is housing. Same as golf courses and parks. We're not overcrowded. Not by a long way. The possibilities of Britain are endless. But the landowners don't want that. Oh no.
It's also the distribution of wealth. The system. The money needed is locked up. Unless you can redistribute that somehow or something convince very rich landowners to build affordable housing and subsidize the NHS nothing will change anything.
Yep exactly shame we need to grow food and have water and plants to generate oxygen to fight global warming. Lets pave over it all and let all in regardless.
@@ptv8113 I'm with you.. There's lots of ways to redistribute wealth. Tax the richest. For one. Put a cap on profits. Stop the rich buying up all the housing. Limit ownership of the media, to people who live in Britain. Support workers not owners. Take money out of politics. Ban offshore billionaires donating to party politics. End the second chamber, house of lords. Make power accountable, to the PEOPLE! NOT CORPORATION'S..
@@anap7830 Who said to pave over it all? This is the problem in this country. Nobody can just have a discussion. Someone makes a fair point and you go straight to the extreme of paving everything over and destroying the world. Who said leave it all over? Nobody.
@@kerryfry1857 Right- but that's merely ideas. How are you going to get some of that done ?
The people on the boats are not in need at all. They have money, phones, clothes and then they get a load more things free from us.
If they're not in need then they should be processed and returned to their place of origin -- as she says repeatedly.
But she thinks they are all in need and that is the issue.@@Sardonac
She literally says that they need to be processed to determine WHETHER they are in need and then provided for accordingly, whether. If you think she's saying that every applicant should qualify for protections then you're imagining things bud @@TheDanielb554
@@Sardonacthey say 5 years to process. I say just send them home.
That's exactly the problem: it takes five years to process because this Conservative government has done such a trash job of running the system. Budget cuts lead to fewer and poorer services -- who knew! Literally everyone but this government apparently@@honeybunch6473
We’re under the Human Rights’s Convention. As are France. And there’s no obligation to apply in the first safe country. Do people not have access to Google? Look it up!
I don't like that oresenter she's ignorant in my opinion
I would like to see the countrys that these illegal immigrants are coming from as i have not seen or heard about wars,if there was it would be on the news,apart from russia and Ukraine
Whether he pronounces her name correctly or not is besides the point. He’s right. We’re FULL. Send them back to France, let the French deal with them.
LBC! left left left and left again! In you come lads!!
Simple reason this country is perceived as "Full" or "overcrowded." Housing policy. Building homes for genuinely affordable rent and not for sale unless a minimum tenancy has been met in that the amount of rent paid by the tenant over all is equivalent to the cost of the original build paid by the local authority, thus allowing them to stay as homes and not safe deposit boxes or pension top up facilities or even worse, in the hands of private landlords. a large portion of ex Council houses and flats are now owned by "slum landlords" the eradication of which was the very reason they were built in the first place.
Goodbye greenbelts.
I am lost. You seem to know a lot about the subject but I can’t follow what your saying. To many things and it’s confusing me.
@@mitchyoung93 Most of the land surrounding cities isn’t even green belt. It’s just depressing patches of grass.
This guy is absolutely a Daily Mail reader 😂
Yes he doesn't let people pull the wool over his eyes and sees what is liable to happen to this country socially.
You playing your name game because you lost the argument
In 2022 the USA (432,322), Germany (217,673), Costa Rica, Spain, Mexico, France (115,078), Austria, Russia and Canada all received more applications for asylum than the UK (89,146).
UK isn't even highest! Great point! Italy take loads too, UK needs to stop moaning!
Turkey has 4 million, Pakistan 1.7m. and these people endlessly whine about the tiny amount coming to the UK
That puts things into perspective.
people need to learn a lot, but one thing that is crucial is to learn their own sociohistorical situation. If they knew what that is, they'd know that there is a perfectly valid argument that people coming to britain in boats is "our problem".
Well said...we need to realise we have an obligation to help them
I’m 55 years old born here 1968…I can’t get universal credit .it’s scandalous
If he couldn’t pronounce exacerbate properly, how could he be expected to pronounce Sangita?
You have such little faith in people.
@@diepiriye flawed logic. Caught up in the moment. Reflection. Begging forgiveness.
Don't l, its the right way👍 expect little👍
Sangita needs to be back in India.
@@HowieHoward-ti3dx go back? How do know she came from India?
Love Sangita, such a well rounded presenter.
I did get flashbacks to one of my favourites Breaking Bad scenes 😂
😂 Say My Name….
@@psychoinsane9887heisenburgh
Sangita was unable to communicate her wish for being addressed by her correct name effectively.
The attempted correction was in the context of disagreement and done with irritation.
No where did she state what her actual name is.
The so-called 'shut down' was done well after a lengthy conversation in which apparent disagreement was fully established.
Sangita made a pathetic performance here.
The caller does not seem to know that turning back asylum seekers from a safe EU country is a legal right of EU member countries. The UK lost the right to turn back asylum seekers to the first country of safety when it left the EU.
It is an International Law not an EU Law. So you are incorrect.
I tried to get benefits about 10 years ago and it was nigh on impossible. People who think it's easy don't know what they're on about. I didn't get a penny. Still had to sign on and go on ridiculous 'training' courses led by people who were barely literate. It was like what I imagine being on probation is like - except my case worker didn't even know my name and my only crime was being poor.
you don't get benefits for being poor, you get them for not being able to work.
@@Abby-yj9zh _you don't get benefits for being poor_
You have no idea what you're writing about..
"I'm right and you're wrong!" Pack it up folks, it's settled. No rebuttal can suffice. No more news, this one guy figured it all out.
Another brilliant episode from Sangita, just brilliant 👏 👌 👍
I bet the MP he was talking about is 30p Lee
why if these people want to claim asylum here in the UK do so many throw their paperwork away.
Sangita should put on a PVC catsuit before saying ‘Say my name!’.
The caller takes a position shared by many in the UK, who think they are entitled to their splendid isolation. Clearly, the solution he suggests leads inevitably to Britain leaving the ECHR. The EU should very soon attach a price tag to this demand: it cannot be that UK subjects enjoy free travel across the Continent if they believe that the refugee problem is for the EU to solve on its own. So once the UK abandons its international obligations w.r.t. refugees, a strict visa regime must be introduced. And if necessary, it must be enforced by incarcerting those Brits who enter the EU illegally.
No public service is set up with a ceiling of access. They're all modelled with the expectation of polulation growth.
Yes natural population growth, not 8 million in 30 years, 80% of the growth is down to mass immigration.
. Why is she looking so puzzled as to what he is saying he is right
I know😂
Right on. I endured three years’ employment at the BBC in London, working with colleagues who changed my very simple name to nicknames or variations. It’s not just laziness, it’s not always racism or political, it’s English arrogance/abuse/aggression toward anyone perceived as foreign.
No, it's the same in any culture. When I lived abroad I got a nickname. If you don't like England, emmigrate.
We all do it to ourselves as well, it's not an insult it's just normal. Get over yourself
Well said
@@tmarrittlistened to you entitled people
@@leslie-annmills-gomez8763 so people are being horrible when they shorten someone's name to Terry or John? It's just normal and you have to try really hard to find insult in that.
I thought you lot voted Brexit to stop immigration 😂😂😂
Easy to say when you are not really affected by the consequences
Sangita’s argument is so flawed that’s why she is she used this name issue. The caller made a genuine mistake! Sangita is so pathetic
her arguments supported by facts, not flawed
Dude...
Seriously?
Love to the family x
He was right in one thing though - not wishing his identity revealed
Britain has caused harm to so many nations and people Britain owes some or most of these people who come to British shores
She lost the argument, and her cool …
She didn't lose the argument, Steve, she just didn't want to put up with Richard's rudeness.
Sangita Myska, Awesome presenter, like a breath of fresh air on LBC, always engaging and thought provoking, brilliant radio. Touches the parts of the nation that other broadcasters cant reach and if they do they cant handle as well. Top lady.
You sound nice. But you know shes unhinged.. that was nuts.
@@PpPp-ku4sy no she is definitely not unhinged. However, on the other hand you have quite an exotic name.
@@tahirhussain9907 thanks bro. This was such an insightful reply. I'm gonna really think about it and go on with life the best I can
This presenter hasn't got a clue. She said there is a backlog. The reason there is a backlog is because there are too many people coming here. Bring back katie Hopkins she said it how it is. This woman is to masculine, would she talk to her boss like that?
Jonathan from Bishops Stortford clearly dodged his work on that day.
Spoiler alert, he probably doesn't work.
@@gav7900...yeah, one of the Wetherspoons' debating society contributors.....in between trips to the bookie's of course.
This reminds me of Ali taunting Terrell by asking, 'What's my name?' Sangita Myska drives this point home as well. Learn my name, and then we can talk. Perfect.
I thought her name was letscon thebritishpublic glad we got that cleared up
@@rolandhawken6628well you were quite the tool then, weren't you! Glad you had the courage to admit it!
@@rolandhawken6628
The 'Let'sConTheBritishPublic' is ironic ...
By pulling of the EU, how much money was said to be pouring into the NHS each week ...? How many new hospitals were going to be built (despite, to name one instance, The Middlesex Hospital - where my sister and I both had had to have complex spinal surgeries be done - was demolished, and now is a posh housing complex ...) ...?
Not only that, but even Primary Care is in crisis, as what few junior doctors there are, even fewer are going in General Practice, as a) you have to know the entirety of Internal Medicine, from that of a days - weeks old baby, to that of a 90+ year old ...
And then there's always the clinical write ups they have to make on each patient that they saw that day, so they can remind themselves of what the patient came in for the last time; also prescription approval of, which shouldn't be treated as a rubber stamp ... especially if emergent contraindications occur ... and that was long before the migrant crisis became a _signifigant_ issue ...
@@tabularasa7775 Opps! Someone didn't get the memo.😁😁😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
Her name is Bigbubababa
Everyone and his dog wants to come to this country, so maybe when no one can move in the country, then the people on tv.and radio will wack up.
I think she was so wrong to cancel someone because he could not pronounce her name , such childish behaviour
Basic common courtesy to pronounce someones name correct. Shes exactly right. You ppl are so cultured you cant even pronounce a name. Thanks Dave
The Sun and Daily Mail could be contributing to the ignorant attitude,although the people concerned might not even read papers at all.
I think a lot of them read the headlines in a garage forecourt and think they’ve read the papers.
Do you guys have a spare room in your house?
THEY MIGHT BE PEOPLE ,, BUT THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO PAY TO COME HERE , ILLEGALEY ? AFTER GETTING IN THOSE BOATS . 🤔
She is one of the people few on LBC that is honest and decent.
FACT: When your fire alarm beeps every minute or so (heard first about 0:32), it means the battery is almost flat. Change it
Her (over)reaction confirms that she had indeed lost the argument as explained by the caller.
Clutching at straws aren't you? She reacted that way to highlight his ignorance and prejudice; and it worked a treat. If he had made a simple mistake, he would have corrected himself. He refused to, showing him to be the bigot he appeared. Friend of yours?
@@101dannybhoy🤡🤡🤡
My name is Asunción Agulló, and I have never in my whole life met a single British or native English speaker who pronounces it correctly. And I have never got angry at any of them.
ok, can I call you Cindy?
My name is spelt wrong at births , no one gets it right but I don’t get upset either, I think that was trivial. When someone deliberately Cant say the name that’s bad. But some people genuinely can’t pronounce certain names
Except that this guy refuses to pronounce her name properly.
Her name was San-Gi-Ta. 3 simple syllables.
No offense but, it's not others' fault for, not being born into an ancient cult that casts spells, to get your name right.
maybe cos you yourself think your name's ridiculous and got NO respect for it. cos anyone who does would like to be called by their right name.
British colonoliasm made every countries problem theirs, just as they have with their resources and jewels
First time I have come across media featuring her and I have to say:
Patience of a Saint, facts on her side, professional handling of this call; I applaud Sangita Myska for her conduct and am looking forward to more content!
Patience?? She got triggered because he couldn’t remember her foreign name 😂.
@@TheAArmstrong I think we all know what you are.
@@miscellaneousviewing7916 Your caps lock is stuck.
This man is so biased and ill informed. Someone should tell this so and so that UK is a signatory to the international convention on refugees treaty, 1952.
I get his point. If you have difficulties with feeding and looking after the people in your home, you can't take in more and make it more difficult for everyone already struggling to survive in your house. I'm Indian, I don't live in the UK, but i see his point. It's perfectly valid. There is no easy moral solution, but it's a valid point. If you have a backlog in processing, don't take in more, shoving them into limited space and then have issues because they are living in overcrowded conditions.
Shhhhhhh lol. You're going to give the Princess With the Name All Must Correctly pronounce, here, indigestion with such basic logic.
Wow well said hope they can see the clarity in your message.
Except Britain owes some or many people.
But UK is actively involved with wars in the countries that these people are fleeing from!!!
The moment she lost the argument she started screaming and shouting over him.
Lefty tactic number one.
Well said it's all the governments fault there in charge of the country. But the simple fact is they don't care
He was completely correct. She is living in dream land 😢
Delusional
Woke moral highground is up in the clouds I'm afraid.
No, it's called being human.
Johnathon already
She is using the name thing 5:41. Anyone can lose the name during the conversation. He said Sunita, which is also an Indian name, which means he doesn't have a problem with Indian names. But she put it like that.
lol what
Whatever, Jimothy
Im with the caller, rather than the host who has benifitted to our system, who has got the job because her race and attiitude, as displayed. ps has she been female castrated . Its quite common in the UK, even though it is outlawed. we in the UK call it Child cruelty, to put it mildly
They ARE a problem
The caller is right we need to sort out are own country first and yes the caller won this argument what a childish woman
*our. You come over here, you learn to speak the language.
Took me awhile, but finally I am with you!😂😅😊😃😀🤡😂😀
And they might be coming to England, because they speak English, not French and they speak it because of our history and our empire?
Tories have been a joke but under Labour it would be even worse.
And the woke brigade don't help. Sleep walking into it.
👍WellDone💪Sangita💐
Sangita went way way off topic, and became almost so offended that he mispronounced her name which to me looked like a genuine accident. At the end of the day, he was expressing his opinion which she clearly was getting emotional about. She was offended mainly at the point he was making, and took it out on the name thing. I think it was quite egocentric at her point, and that was proved by this was whole thing about 'winning the argument'. It's a debate right? When you come down to it, its a shared place of opinions (respectfully). Right or wrong, does not equal 'winning'. Healthy debates give room for both parties to learn. When you're bringing 'winning', you're bringing ego into this. It was pretty childish if you ask me. He might have actually accidentally genuinely mispronounced her name, which wasn't his fault. She then hampered on at him like a school teacher does to a child. He didn't even get a chance to listen to her pronounce it correctly. At the end of the day, anyone who raises the energy like they both did will be seeing as being emotional. Which is exactly what it was - An emotionally heated exchange. The caller did try to keep to the debated points (albeit emotionally/ egotistically with the whole you're wrong, I'm right thing), which is where this whole thing should've been kept anyway. Could've been easily avoided in my opinion.
Agree
Yes absolutely
LOL I assume you listen to the show which means you would know her name is mentioned at least once every 15 minutes. In fact, her name was also brought up a couple times during the call so the caller does know what her name sounds like. It's basic respect to pronounce people's names correctly, and in general England is very far behind in this respect compared to other countries like Scotland.
as a first time viewer, it's most telling that this LBC channel chooses to highlight "rudeness" rather than concentrate on the topic being discussed.
the caller is (IMO clearly) xenophobic but the presenter went off the rails at the end (of this video) just listing the things the caller was "wrong about" and decided it wasn't worth continuing and decided to switch to 'lack of respect' as the reason to end the conversation.
all in all, just a clickbait video and nothing to do with improving the debate.
@@binsarm9026 calling it a xenophobic act seems way too extreme, I think he just mispronounced it, it’s not really that big of a deal. I have a 10 letter first name from poc but if somebody misspelled or pronounced it, I wouldn’t go so far as to call them xenophobic.
She was quite fair in her manners, on the other hand Mr caller was Taking so much effort just to prove her wrong when outrageously missing her statement in many ways. Besides, misspeaking her name two Times! that IS a Really rude, she was right All along to terminate the call.
She was nasty and aggressive because she was losing the argument. She needs to get that chip off her shoulder. One more thing, Sanghita, the first thing you do when entering a country you want to live in is not to break the law. You didn’t break the law Sanghita when you left the country you were born in to come here. However, that’s precisely what these illegal immigrants did when they chose of their volition to pay criminals thousands of euros to illegally cross into the territorial waters of a sovereign country without authorisation. This in itself is a criminal offence which automatically makes these illegal immigrants criminals, therefore they should be prosecuted and deported instead of rewarded.
I think the people here illegally should be sent back, they are here illegally and therefore we shouldn't give them benefits. Then get people from those countries who didn't break the law and ask them if they want to come over here instead, reward them with that opportunity for not breaking the law to get here, that would stop all of this
I've not got any major issue with people from war torn countries coming, but people who are only coming over for the sake of it.
Also we need to sort ourselves out before taking in anyone else
I agree, but there needs to be a legal route first.
If there was a legal route to begin with, you wouldn't have so many coming in the wrong way. Thank your Tories for that.
The Brits colonized countries illegally one after another, massive lands such as USA, Canada, Australia, Greenland, Iceland, New Zealand, and tons of smaller countries and islands. Now you cry fowl? I don't know what to say
That's what an application process determines. Our previous government seemed determined to block those so all those people in temporary accommodation aren't even 'illegal immigrants' (people who have arrived in the country and had their asylum application process fail) but are unprocessed asylum claimants who might have their applications passed or failed. There was a backlog of 100,000+ of those a couple of years back. That's a complete dereliction of duty on the part of government to have that sort of backlog. Have a tough system or have an easy system but have a functioning system, whichever way.
@JamesMc2051 difficult to have a functioning system with the clowns of politicians we've got, I think the irony is that the working class have more political sense than the career politicians that we all vote in
He's old. Who does he expect to care for him when he needs help? Too many people? In many countries asylum seekers can work if they are waiting for over 6 months for a decision. Here they wait for years and Daily Mail parrots like this one blame them for not contributing! Crazy.😊
Lol. They're both wrong. The name thing was her way to attempt to avoid the debate, because both of them were mixing up their arguments. They start with telling the other person "you're absolutely right" or "I agree with you...", then into the debate they start arguing against what the other person actually agrees with.
Funny and petty debate.
What a cheap cop out from someone who values presenting virtue above common sense. She was losing the argument and like all foolish women will have an epiphany of mind if she encounters one of her chosen people in an unwanted encounter.
lol the caller said the NHS was built for 40 million people yet that was the population of the UK in 1900
All tory/brexiteers have heads full of alternate facts.
It's also not just population increase that means the NHS needs more funding. Number of times I see people question why the NHS needs ever more funding like other countries and yet they never consider that we have an aging population that requires more care and then we also have advances in medicine, technology and treatments that cost vast sums of money but allow people to live longer and they all need to be paid for.
@@David-bi6lfOther countries seem to fund their health care perfectly adequately. I don’t read stories about France, Germany or Australia having difficulties with their health systems. Perhaps it’s because their governments aren’t corrupt to the core, and actually care about the public they are meant to serve.
@@srp01983They spend more per head then we do.
@@royboy565 Exactly. Because they care and because they want a healthy population.