5+ Ways to Make French Cleats WITHOUT a Table Saw
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- Here are 5 easy ways to make French Cleats Without a table saw. So everyone should be able to upgrade this wall storage space and benefit from the ease of access to your tools.
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So nice to see alternatives for those of us who don't have big, expensive pieces of workshop kit. Thanks.
A big plus is when you show us mistakes and how to avoid them. I appreciate you are just like the rest of us! Thank you for taking the time & effort to make these videos.
That means a lot to know our mistakes help you.
@@SpecificLove7 Came down to say this pretty much same thing. I really appreciate it when a DIY channel keeps mistakes in the video and explains what went wrong and the fix. Feels a lot more genuine to me since I know exactly zero people who can pull off a project with perfect accuracy every time they do something.
I went to my plywood supplier and bought a few sheets of three-quarter inch birch plywood. I had their staff cut the plywood down into long useable strips with one edge being a 45° angle. There was an additional charge for the cutting service, but I was more than happy to have that done as I don’t have a tablesaw.
Great video! Thank you. I was trying to decide on the best way to hang tools on my garage wall. I was originally thinking pegboard, but now I've decided to use a French cleat system thanks to your video. It makes more sense and is a more versatile method of storage. God bless and thanks again.
Thank you! I don't have a table saw but like the idea of using French cleats. Such an organized way to store things!
Thanks, this is just the video i was looking for after i realized i couldn’t do them on a miter saw.
That first method is a total 300iq solution. Thanks!
This is great. I grew up using a radial arm saw for ripping and cross cuts; we didn’t have a table saw. After I was out of the house, my father added a portable table saw to his shop, but it (along with the radial arm) has probably been neglected for 12 years. Using either at this point really makes me nervous, yet I REALLY want to add French cleats. Since I have 3 circular saws I am thinking of setting one to 45 and one to 90 and just alternating between the two to cut up a sheet of 3/4” ply.
Great video on other ways.
I bought a table and didn’t have a use for it, however I made a sled for it and made French cleats. Both the sled and French cleats are game changes in time saved, safety and organizing ur shop.
Keep the video coming .
With almost every different angle of your wood shop, I was like “wow!” at all the cool tool organization ideas 😎
Thank you for this video. I haven’t room for a table saw, though I clearly need one. Your video and teaching style is really accessible and has given me the push to get my tool cabinet finished with French cleats rather than continuing to procrastinate!!
That's awesome, you should really like them.
Thank you SO MUCH for making this video! Super helpful and very clear instructions. 😁
Thank you for showing other ways of sawing the cleats. This is Step 1, of the entire French cleat system, without which the rest of the videos I’d of little use.
Thank you for the safety minded tips too man! Really appreciate it, and I can see how I will be able to think about doing things to avoid getting too up close as you say.
Splendid video. I now know that this is do-able even if am a newbie and at present don't have any fancy kit.
Your storage idea vids, have had my imagination firing on all cylinders, thinking of all the many ways, I can free up floor space and have flexible storage around the house and garage. Also thinking of applying this method for an outdoor set of cleats for the back of garage wall, to use for planting veg.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and for your infectious enthusiasm. Greetings and gratitude from Yorkshire. 😊
Thank you very much for this videos. Very well done and great alternates. Thank you thank you thank you!!!
Your videos are always filled with great ideas and suggestions, keep them coming!❤
Thank you. I hope you can get around to making a video soon too.
Muy bueno! Just what I was looking for👍🏼
just what I needed. Thanks a lot!
So helpful...love your ideas!
Thanks for sharing, that was simple but helpful.
Thank you for all these great tips!
So very helpful! Thanks so much.
Thanks for this. have saved it. I only have a circular saw. i might try and make a french cleat for the first time!
SO helpful!
Bless you!
Such a helpful video! The first person I've seen use a jigsaw for french cleating. Cheers
thnks for that! just realized i don't need a table saw to do these. and i do have a circ saw. nice to see it demo'd!
Great channel, you explain things well. Thanks!
Ik looking for this, thanks for your video 🤘🏼
Loved the ideas, thank you!
Great video! Definitely given me some ideas.
Really enjoyed this video. It's good to see alternatives when you may not have all the tools you would like.
Thank you very much
Super helpful. Thanks!
this is smart! Thanx for the tutorial
I had no idea I could change the angle of my jig saw. You're a life saver 😭
Thank you :) finally somebody who explained how to make it with a regular saw! Like, shush, i'm just trying to make 1 pice of a furniture for myself, there is no way i'm gonna build a freaking furniture workshop for that purpose x)
Good video! I could have sworn one of the methods would be router table. I didn't know there are so many ways to make French cleats.
Awsome thanks my man.
Thanks for the information Sir I was looking for a way to hang my flat screen tv as safely as I could so again thank you.
THANK YOU!!
Awesome video so easy to follow
thank you so much, I was wondering how to make the cleats without a table saw 😁
5:40 Pro-tip. The Japanese pull saw has one side that's for ripping, and one side that's for crosscuts. If you flip the saw around and use the rip teeth for the rip cuts, you might have a better time.
I was about to put the same comment... The two side are not fine/rought !!!
Thank you very much.
I really like your teaching style! I wish you were my high school shop teacher!!
I would have totally related to you, better than the shop teacher slash (ready to retire Gym coach) that I had
Some people are so gifted, with totally relating to people that are trying to learn!
This will be a great video series if you keep pushing (keep pushing,keep pushing, keep pushing on!)
Almost everyone that I know needs to watch your series of videos !
Thank you soo much
That's amazing! Great ideas! 💪👍I love it! Im gonna myself some french cleats!😏😏
I used a track saw. Much easier than a table saw if you’re trying to handle a 4x8 sheet of plywood by yourself. I cut a whole sheet into cleats that I store for future use.
Good idea
Great ideas. If I manage to make all the cleats I need, I'll be able to get everything up on the walls and then I will actually have room for a table saw.
Thank you! This was very easy to watch/listen to. You make me feel like I can actually do this.
While I'll likely try my circular saw, I really appreciate you showing how to do it by hand. Because when push comes to shove I can always use hand tools.
Nice demo 😎
Nice video again!
thanks great video !!!
Excelent !!!!!!!!
You could also use a Radial Arm Saw. Going to be doing mine later this week
Love the chanel bro!
Great video!
Thanks
Great videos on French Cleats, and you have convinced me that they are the way forward once I start the interior build of my new workshop. One thing I do have to ask is why do the wall mounted sections have a square bottom instead of a 45 degree angle. That way you can just keep your saw setting the same and churn out parallelograms which also provide a bit more space for when removing the storage units. Maybe I'm missing something but it just seems easier to me.
You have a very valid point. If you try it, please let me know how it works out, and if it is good, I might try in the future
If your cuts are not perfectly straight, you can adjust for that when you hang it.
1. Attach cleat to whatever you are hanging.
2. Attach one side of the wall cleat to the wall (firmly!), and hold it level.
3. Hang your item on the wall cleat, and move the unattached side of the wall cleat up and down until your item is level; mark the wall where the bottom of the wall cleat is.
Remove your item, attach the other end of the wall cleat, and hang your item.
*You may need another person, but I've done it by myself (using a level sitting on top of my item), but this works well!
I have a single cleat that runs the whole perimeter of my shop. 100 feet. I did them with a hand plane. I just marking gauged the offset from both sides and planed to the marks. It really didn't take all that long. I am lucky to have a vise that offsets to 45 degrees just made it less awkward.
Wow! Thanks for the tips and instructions. I guess i'll try with my circular saw first to hang mirror and let's see if fail then i'll have to go get one Craftsman 10in table saw from Lowe's. What else does table saw can do? Just want to know if table saw is good investment for the long run? And how to maintain it? What else important info needed to know about table saw? Thanks.
I don't have a table saw so Thank you!
1 3 and 4 nice.
I have a table saw but find cutting long cleats pretty sketchy on it, even with featherboards. Setup a jig for my tracksaw. Thinking the bandsaw may be the least sketchy.
6th way: roughly cut to angle, then use a belt sander with a 45 degree jig.
This is an especially useful video for me since the internet has made me terrified of ever owning a table saw.
When you cut the 45 degree down the middle of the strip, can you use both half for the wall or do you put half on the wall and half on your tool holder? Also what distance between wall strips? looking at videos the distance is all over the place.
One other way is to use a router with a 45* bevel bit.
What a colossal waste of material though :D
Yeah but it works. I have do it with a router. Becouse in the time I do it I have no other options.
This is a great video as I'm going to be making a workbench for one of my first woodworking projects and I only have a circular saw at the moment. Dumb question, but after you've cut the 1x8 with the circular saw, what are the approx. dimensions of the finished cleats? Also, could you theoretically cut it straight a bit off center to get bigger wall cleats and then smaller tool storage cleats or would that make the proportions off? I hope that makes sense and thanks for the video and great ideas!
The dimensions of the cleat really depends on the size that you would prefer, there is no specific size.
As for the angle, I have never tried it but my understanding is that it would be best to keep it level.
clever, clever! thanks. Oh, and good on you for actually wearing the safety glasses during your work. I cringe when i watch youtubers using all sorts of power tools without goggles OR ear protection....
Ide love a table saw. I just dont have the room for one.
Nice video! What's the purpose of trimming the edges of the 1x8? Seems unnecessary or, at the very least, a task better suited for a hand plane.
I actually do all my french cleats by planing the bevel with a hand plane. If you know how to use hanplanes properly, it can be as quick as most methods you have shown here and probably much more accurate.
Ironic.. I'm working on a project and my OLD table saw only tilts 20 degrees.. Your video was right on time.. Thanks you..
That is awesome. We are so pumped to help with your project.
Question for you;: no one ever mentions many inches they space the cleats on the wall or the type of screws they use to screw the cleats unto the studs in the wall? Your cleats look very nice! I am a novice here and any info you can give me greatly helps! Thanks!
You can space your cleats any width that you choose, just remember to leave enough room for the tool side to slide in easily.
As for the screws make sure to use a good quality that's long enough to reach securely into the studs, but the brand doesn't matter. And definitely avoid drywall screws they are not very strong.
I just cut my strips 5" wide then rip the 45 degree down the middle. You could also use a 1x6 and just have 1 cut to get 2 strips. Another option is to use a jointer with the fence set at 45 degrees.
Those are great ideas too, thanks for sharing
Hey Clinton! Its Clinton! Those are some great options! Was nice meeting you at Workbenchcon! Though I think one of your pull saws is out if tune. 😂
Tuning those can be a challenge 😀
It was great to meet you too. Do you have any planned projects coming?
@@SpecificLove7 sure do! my first video will be about the Engineer Castle promotion brick for my local National guard unit
@@C3DPropShop I'm not sure what that is but I am definitely intrigued to watch.
Well done on this video!
I watched your other TH-cam video "20-things...French cleats...," and based upon this video; I tried and failed to make my first French Cleat with a 2"×4".
Now, I started by cutting the left edge of the 2"×4" off at a 45-degree angle, then I measured my second piece and cut it on the line at 45-degrees. The two pieces were not the same width nor would the two pieces fit together, which was really frustrating.
Please help me as I am trying to make a perfect "French Cleat Wall" so that I can design holders, and hang a good amount of hand tools. I would be most grateful for your assistance.
I personally would not use a 2x4 but rather a 1x4 and cut one edge off.
lol IDK why but you remind me of Matt Cremona 🤣 Thanks for the video.
Thanks, I wish I had his saw mill.
@@SpecificLove7 You and me too brother!
Jointer set to 45 works too.
I’m curious. Why do you recommend the three cuts at the beginning vs one 45* angle down the center? You mentioned it being safer, but could you explain more about that? Thanks! Love your channel!
Julie Jumper I think it is because the saw won't have as much wood to balance on in the middle, whereas on the edges you have the whole piece to lean on.
@5:48, after flipping the board upside down, turn the board around in a 180 to keep sawing the original direction prior...
How can I do for planter with 4 verified pieces n open on the back.
At home Depot, table saw rental is usually under $40 for 4 hours and just over $50 for a full day. Fyi
Hi, what type of wood are you using on this video for those cleat cuts?
Pine
Is it possible to make a register cut, use the plug on the other piece and therefore your tool holder will sit in the same spot every time?
I've never tried that, but maybe
Lol,
"If you don't have a table saw, no problem. You can just use a band saw" haha
What about using finished plywood?
1) Mount a circular saw upside down in a workbench.
2) You could also just cut the center of the board at 45 degrees and not worry about the outer edge. sure, the heights of the cleats may be millimeters in difference, but they still work.
what about making french cleats with 3/4" plywood?
what performs better? wood or plywood?
I have not personally tested it, but I have seen both work. Maybe I should make a video about it.
Personally prefer plywood or MDF...no knots, uniform strength.
what about a putting a cove molding on it
Could a circular saw be used to cut a full 8 foot sheet using a straight edge?
If you set it up correctly
Ugh! Only a table saw for me, nothing else. On another note, is there a trick to centering the 45 degree cut so that both cleats are exactly the same width?
I can only suggest some trial and error with scrap wood first.
Imagine French Cleat made of stainless steel ;O would be endless
wow lovely post dear.. I always connected with you .. Let's be Friends?
Hand plane.
I have a table saw, but a cheap kind, and cutting a long cleat on it is impossible without getting infeed and outfeed tables/stands, a featherbord or two, and a good fence.
I'd say the easiest way to cut a long cleat would be using a track saw. Safe, way better in terms of dust, and easy to set up.
Also, there's a method where you don't do any perpendicular cuts - you just make all cuts at a 45 degree angle, makes cutting them way faster. So unless you want your cleats to have one straight edge it is the way to go. Mind you, if you want to have a locking mechanism of some kind, the wall cleats should have a straight edge to lock against, so this method won't be suitable then.
sir how heavy french cleat can lift?
I have not tested for their maximum, but when done correctly they can hold a good bit of weight
I get that it's an academic exercise, but who has a band saw and no table saw?
It's also worth noting that if you attempt to do this with either a band saw or a jig saw you need to use the widest blade possible. Keeping either of those cutting straight is the biggest challenge.
And leaving out a router was a major oversight. That would be far superior to a jigsaw or band saw.
Good insight on those blades.
It's missing the one that I use, just using a hand plane to bevel one side
Very interesting, thanks for giving everyone more knowledge to work with.
Yes, I was going to suggest that also.
Thanks for the reminder I forgot about that one too