RETHINK French Cleat . It Doesnt Have To Be Like This

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  • @startmaking1
    @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I understand that the Larger x Tool laser is not in everyones budget. Please note that all of these holders can be made with a cheap laser, or by hand, or bought from sellers like www.aglimpseinside.org. He is both a talented content creator and someone who makes amazing French cleat and tool holder accessories. Or you can adapt the original idea.

    • @MrJfrutuoso1972
      @MrJfrutuoso1972 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see many in the site, which ones do you recommend and what is the type of wood used and it's measure, 3mm, 5mm or more?

    • @ianbelletti6241
      @ianbelletti6241 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The nice thing about French cleats is that you can still hang a section of peg board but it's easy to shift the peg board location if you decide that your organization needs modified.

    • @DOCWHOK9
      @DOCWHOK9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ianbelletti6241 screw pegboards, honestly theyre a PITA. Great for a dozen items, thats it. With falling pegs and being inadequate in every way, I'm giing cleats forever.

    • @ianbelletti6241
      @ianbelletti6241 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@DOCWHOK9 I was talking about combining methods. If you have some things that are better off hung on pegboard the cleats would allow you to hang the pegboard and keep it much more adjustable with everything else you intend to hang. Yes, pegboard does have it's downfalls but you may find a condition where it's beneficial to you. Using the French cleats takes away the major downside of the normal method of hanging pegboard which happens to be the typical fixed placement forcing you to have to arrange around the peg board.

    • @dallasarnold8615
      @dallasarnold8615 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I just have to ask, why not cut the french cleat as part of the side panels ? Instead of screwing a separate cleat onto the outside of the panel making it wider, and thereby wasting wall space.

  • @daifeichu
    @daifeichu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Main point I got from this video regarding French cleats. Think in 3-D instead of 2-D. Great job.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, thats it. I am glad that it was not lost in my usual waffle.

    • @daifeichu
      @daifeichu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@startmaking1 I took apart the peg-board wall last night to get it ready for the French-cleats. I saw that peg-board wall in a way I never saw it before, flat and a waste of space.

  • @davidgee1585
    @davidgee1585 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good stuff. An old uncle of mine in his workshop used to screw the lids of jam jars under the shelf with 2 screws, then he could put screws nails etc in jars easily see what was where, unscrewed them as he needed them and make good use of the space under the shelf. Use this method myself 50 years on.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love that idea. So simple yet effective.

  • @tonysicily2687
    @tonysicily2687 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Best French cleat video I have seen. Two great take aways,
    1) Think 3D
    2) French Cleat hangers rather than angled battens,
    Awesome

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much. Really appreciated.

    • @ianbelletti6241
      @ianbelletti6241 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "1) Think 3D"
      OK. French cleats to hang French cleats to hang a 3rd set of French cleats. 🤣

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ianbelletti6241 now you are talking.

    • @tonysicily2687
      @tonysicily2687 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ianbelletti6241 not what I meant, I meant hanging boxes of the French cleats rather than individual tools to save wall space. Obcvious, I know, but I had not thought of it before, I had always considered French cleats as pegboard,. One hole, one tool.

    • @ianbelletti6241
      @ianbelletti6241 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tonysicily2687 I know what you meant but still posted the joke. Besides, people do fail to realize that the peg board hangers are often big enough to hang multiples of tools. The only difference between French cleats and peg board is how much you can extend the load off the wall and how much load it can handle per hanger.

  • @RambunctiousHamster
    @RambunctiousHamster 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think you may have made a small mistake when building your wall. My French cleat wall is done in the old style, but has zero wobble. The only time I had wobble was when I accidentally mixed up the boards I was utilizing on the backer wall with the boards I was using on my boxes for. My first go around, and it ended up not being a perfect match between the two angles. This taught me how important it is to keep you angles the exact same throughout to keep everything rock solid like this system was intended to be used. If you have a perfect 45 degree angle, you should have a solid joint no matter which side you use. But if you are off by half a degree or more, you must make sure to keep the boards that were cut at let's say 45.5 degrees all on the wall, and the boards at 44.5 degrees on the hanging boxes. Then everything will match up perfect as long as every cut was done at the same cut angle. This angle could actually be anything as long as everything is consistent throughout. But keeping it at a perfect 45 is easier to remember down the road as a 44.5 degree angle can be hard to recreate exactly.
    I think your problem with wobble is because you got different angles mixed up. Two 44.5 degree boards will never hold tight and will always wobble. Take your time when cutting them, plan accordingly, and your French cleat system should be rock solid without having to go through the hassle of the extra cut out pieces. You'll end up with a much stronger joint than those fasteners will give you as there is zero play, and no where for the wood to bend or give.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You are probably right bud. Thank you.

  •  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    🤔 The cleat on the bench and the rubbish bin are an excellent idea.
    Thanks for sharing. 👍

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Dave. Born out of necessity.

  • @tesarik1974
    @tesarik1974 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Dude. Love your explanations and creative ideas. Simple, efficient and effective. Putting a cleat on the workbench and just move the box you are using from wall to bench, deserves 2 thumbs up!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much. I have just built a new workbench and this one has a French cleat on a t track, very exciting lol.

  • @davidlumley5143
    @davidlumley5143 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Put fan closer at height to open creating more of a Venturi effect, sucks/blows out more effectively! Great video and loads of tips!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you. I will give it a shot.

  • @ryanbartlett672
    @ryanbartlett672 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Nicely done. Your super honest, direct delivery style is appreciated. You gave me at least 10 ideas. Thanks!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Ryan. Very much appreciated,

  • @G.I.JeffsWorkbench
    @G.I.JeffsWorkbench 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not my first view of your channel, but I’ve finally subscribed. Why? Your common sense, straightforward approach, as well as your humble presentation style. I like how you didn’t make a fuss about dimensions, math or mandatory use of a table saw (things that many / most other french cleat wall “experts” do). Very reassuring, especially for beginners. I love my french cleat wall. You gave me inspiration for a few needed additions and modifications. Thank you!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi G I Jeff. Thank you for Subbing. But more than that, thank you for such a nice comment. Means a lot.

  • @JK-zq9vw
    @JK-zq9vw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We used the same idea as your assigning each tool to a specific location. We also made it so the most frequently used tools where front and center and the less used tools further away from your work location. We also streamlined other tasks to increase productivity. Preventative maintenance and scheduled replacement of parts that could take longer to complete a task and/or lead to subpar results is another aspect we focused on. It all worked and made jobs easier…. Why I can’t seem to keep up with those same ideas in my garage I have no clue! lol!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Brilliant. I love the attention to detail. After that much I can understand why it is hard to do it for yourself.

  • @amoswright6134
    @amoswright6134 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My OCD is good through the weekend, now. Thank you.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are welcome. I find the fact that most tools have a home to be really calming.

  • @christong2427
    @christong2427 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So glad I saw this before cracking on with French cleating my garage!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope it goes well. It is really fun and a bit addictive.

  • @takeniteasyfriend
    @takeniteasyfriend 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Marie Kondo of woodworking. Brilliant idea of basing your units on the a glimpse inside bracket for ease. Groupings with tasks and tools is the greatest takeaway👍 Thanks

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, thank you. Very much appreciated.

  • @teapyrategraphics
    @teapyrategraphics 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The cleat on the bench is such a good idea.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you. Simple things I guess.

  • @tealkerberus748
    @tealkerberus748 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is gorgeous. I don't imagine I'm going to upgrade my tool storage space from a bunch of cheap steel shelves in my lifetime, but hey, if one of my grandkids gets into woodworking, I'd like to see them build something like this.
    I don't actually have any grandkids yet. Life is a work in progress.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much. I really like how that comment progressed.

  • @barbarianatgate2000
    @barbarianatgate2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the idea of the hanging boxes. Only one I saw that I can't personally get behind is the chisel box. The way it is set up, you have no way of knowing where a specific chisel size or profile is without hunting through each one until you find the one you're after. Plus, it looks like they end up sitting on the cutting edge.
    Other than that, I really like the ideas here.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree 100%. And yesterday I designed and made the alternative. ,Very excited to show it in the next French cleat video. I think I have solved the issues.

    • @barbarianatgate2000
      @barbarianatgate2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can't wait to see it!

  • @tonytunnell9873
    @tonytunnell9873 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm your newest subscriber. I'm Tony from Utah USA. I do high end finish carpentry. Mostly on churches and temples all around the United States. I have a small, well, not that small ,wood shop. And accessibility to tools is vital to efficiency. Thanks for posting this content.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Tony. Great to have you aboard and thank you for watching. and commenting. I have a feeling that if I saw your small, not small shop I would be more than a little jealous lol.

    • @tonytunnell9873
      @tonytunnell9873 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@startmaking1 I'm currently remodeling it .

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That sounds like expensive fun.

    • @NigelTolley
      @NigelTolley 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not any more! I just subbed because this video was brilliant.

  • @tonyelliott5045
    @tonyelliott5045 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    @startmaking if you had left each cleat with both top and bottom edges at a 45 degree angle, you could have then stacked a cleat on top of a cleat on your wall. Also another tip, for the daily common tools, make the holder flat on the bottom so you can take it off the wall and carry it to your job site, and it can sit flat on a work surface.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is a really good point Tony. The flat bottom is one that I am kicking myself about now. It would be great with a frame of a base to stand it on. But , I am planning a cleat on my bench so it could be ok.

  • @iainrutherford184
    @iainrutherford184 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Totally inspired by your channel/video. I've dusted down my cnc machine and I've designed some French cleats for my soon to be created french cleat system. When I say dusted down, I mean it's not been used, so the design process is taking time 😂

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Brilliant. I wish I had a cnc. So much more versatile than a laser I would think. For building especially. Good luck.

    • @iainrutherford184
      @iainrutherford184 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@startmaking1 possibly the same learning curve, but I think start up costs can be less for the cnc. I purchased a secondhand Oozenest 1075 for £200 (including approx £200 of bits/accessories). I started with a small Sainsmart 3020, which is surprisingly capable, but restricted by its size.

  • @brw3079
    @brw3079 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow! Common sense! Making the box and thinking outside of it!
    I love the french cleat on the bench idea with all the common things in one place! I did that with a little shelf above my bench, because I have cupboards under it, but I am going to rethink everything now!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's addictive be careful lol. But thank you, that is very kind.

  • @yankeeredneck6947
    @yankeeredneck6947 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That is one cool storage system. My Mrs is always gettin on me about the clutter and I've been thinking about the French cleat style. I will be building one shortly. Thanks for the video. Subbed

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much. Not only for the comment but for the sub. Very much appreciated.

  • @clevelandexplorer2221
    @clevelandexplorer2221 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is really interesting bud. Ive been making five cabinets for my hobby room, the back of which have a rabbit so an overlap between backboard and sides which I'll be cutting a French cleet with to take lots of stress into the sides which have most support I think. Basically your design but cut from the back of the sides with the addition of a lateral 45 piece. I like your cleat ideas bro, thanks for sharing!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you. I hope it works out well for your build.

  • @billffromnh
    @billffromnh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like your use of the French cleat brackets. They are more efficient than the free standing cabinet & storage shelves I keep down cellar with my power tools. Your new shop building has plenty of room with everything up on the walls. Nice job!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi Bill. Yes, it certainly works for my shop. I have to say if space was not an issue like some of the commercial size shops I see, I would not have such an intricate system but for me, although this is a great step up from the shed, I have to be so careful not to overfill the floor and just not be able to work.

  • @erikleorga
    @erikleorga 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The French cleat system was the way I hung cabinets at my previous job. When they removed that it doubled the install time. Love their function.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great info. I bet it did. Thank you

  • @brucewelty7684
    @brucewelty7684 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OH! The deliciousness of having a wall (even a SINGLE one.)!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is wierd but when I planned the workshop build in my head I considered windows on every wall and it was only a full wall French cleat system that stopped me. I am glad I stopped. Ive already covered up half the windows I have. Wall storage space is a premium.

  • @phillhart2990
    @phillhart2990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love it! So many ideas I now need to implement!!!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much.

  • @user-dz4cy3zx4d
    @user-dz4cy3zx4d หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jest watching the video I’m a semi retired 70 year old jointer well a tried to retire 😂 still in the work shop not really a job to me as I’ve enjoyed every single day doing what I love but the new French cleat and your style with your great ideas well deserved cheers for the inspiration look forward to seeing more 🤝thank you Chris Jon

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brilliant. I think that if I did this full time I would feel the same as you do. Thank you.

  • @DEVUNK88
    @DEVUNK88 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    every tool needs a home...I heard that years ago and it really made a difference in how I organize, everything

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is the only way I dont go completely nuts in a small workspace.

  • @BobBlarneystone
    @BobBlarneystone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I cut french cleats from HDPE cutting boards and use them as drawer slides The drawers never jam, slide easily, and actually keep the carcass sides from bowing. It's necessary to use flathead screws, and space the screws closer than usual. About 1mm clearance between the drawer cleat and the carcass wall is needed. I think that hardwood could be used as well if they're well waxed.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, I have never seen this before,. It is a really good idea.

  • @Damon_Barber
    @Damon_Barber 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Brilliant and entertaining! 🎉 Thank you for all the great ideas! I’ve been threatening to do a French Cleat system myself and I have a laser that I’ve had for a year and not yet used. No excuses left. You’ve given me reasons to use both!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      YEs, thats perfect. If you struggle like I did to actually draw the brackets, I can email you a copy of my file just as a starting point. though it is not hard for anyone who can use sketch based programs.

    • @NigelTolley
      @NigelTolley 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@startmaking1 Any chance you could just mention the sizes and dimensions? Are they on your website somewhere? No point reinventing the wheel!
      I think it's a 60mm gap between cleats, and 50mm on the long face of the cleat itself, and you're using 18mm backboard.

  • @jimsjacob
    @jimsjacob 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My main complaint has always been the “wasted space beneath the item I’m storing. Too thick skulled to have considered what is outlined here! Thanks for sharing your great ideas. Maybe it’s time to revisit my wall storage and get rid of the that peg board.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are harsh on yourself. No system is perfect. I like this one because I am addicted to it lol.

  • @pathardage1880
    @pathardage1880 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just freaking brilliant. Thank you.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much.

  • @waynemiller6070
    @waynemiller6070 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for all the great ideas!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More than welcome bud.

  • @toonybrain
    @toonybrain 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sweet system.
    Thanks for sharing your ideas.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Very much. Appreciate the comment.

  • @NigelTolley
    @NigelTolley 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This has been on my "watch later" for the longest time. I'm *so glad* I watched it just now, before I got my French cleat system quite badly wrong!
    Definitely going to buy some boards. Today!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Nigel. I have popped you the file across.

  • @johncarlson7955
    @johncarlson7955 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love French cleats, million dollar idea. Made many heavy shelves and never has failed

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too. They are really fun too.

  • @sorenjensen3863
    @sorenjensen3863 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually built a french cleat wall in my work trailer. Absolutely love it. Far more compact than shelves, everything has a specific home (so workers mess up myntrailer less 😂), and modular. I can switch it up as needed.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats is a fantastic idea.

  • @NPOAfterMidnight-ft9zj
    @NPOAfterMidnight-ft9zj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video. Concise and informative. Lots of great ideas here as well as ways to think differently about storage and how to position things to maximum your space. Thanks a bunch.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thank you so much. I really enjoy making these holders. Something cathartic about it.

  • @michaelarts651
    @michaelarts651 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant! Wonderful ideas! Thank you very much for sharing.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching and commenting.

  • @projectrebuild908
    @projectrebuild908 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They all look great. Fantastic video

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much.

  • @orionmec
    @orionmec 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a french cleat guy too. I am just now putting them up on the wall! I kind of wish I would have watched this before. I would have put all of them on a backer board. That way when/if I move I can just grab them and go. It takes a lot of time and money to fill an entire garage with cleats!!! Now, I could just take what I have put up so far down...... hmmm, I'll have to consider that.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not that big of a problem in all honesty. Both ways work. But it is surprising how quickly a ply sheet disappears when cutting cleats lol.

    • @orionmec
      @orionmec 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@startmaking1That ain't no lie! I did decide to put them on backer board. I really like the idea to be able to move them, or take them down to get inside the wall if needed (I have had to do that in the past when I added 220 for a machine). Mostly if you move.... you can take them with you and within an hour have them on the wall making organization of a new space nearly automatic!!! (I had to move out of a 30x40 barn into a 2 car garage and may do it again!)
      I also really like your advise of thinking in 3d.... That will be very helpful! So thanks and again, Best french cleat video I have seen.
      Oh, what kind of wood do you use for cutting with your laser cutter?

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At the moment the laser is just using 1/4 inch ply. I didnt find cutting the 1/2 inch worked well. Loads of charring,. So if I need to make anything thicker I just cut twice from 1/4 inch and glue.
      Oh and thank you again. You are right about moving it easily and In think it will make your life a load easier. Good luck with the rest of the build.

  • @bkipad
    @bkipad 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Best French cleat video yet, thanks!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. That is very kind.

  • @eugenetswong
    @eugenetswong 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you! TH-cam recommended this, even though I wasn't searching.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am glad that the algorithm put it on your plate but more so that you enjoyed it. I appreciate the comment.

  • @stuartkorte1642
    @stuartkorte1642 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A nice glimpse inside the modern cleat system. A lot of nice ideas I haven’t seen.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much. Did you mean the Glimpse inside pun. Great channel for the cleats.

  • @MrDazthaman
    @MrDazthaman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant pal.... Fully appreciated

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much.

  • @Bobbyg2018
    @Bobbyg2018 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is the best french cleat video I've seen, and I've seen a bunch! Thanks much.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow that is very kind. Thank you.

  • @bhartissimo
    @bhartissimo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another excellent video! Thanks for quite a few great ideas.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey. thank you. Much appreciated.

  • @timdone1902
    @timdone1902 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You’ve inspired me to get organised. So many options for my tiny workshop. I love the cleat on the workbench idea! 👏

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brilliant. Inspiration is my main objective. This is a great thing for small workshops.

  • @kenzeiszler8213
    @kenzeiszler8213 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonderful ideas and your enthusiasm is catchy. enjoyed your video and thanks for sharing.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much.

  • @anthonygriffin3147
    @anthonygriffin3147 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Belting rkid woched this vid all the way through normal get bored after 10 mins ha ha Belting I think I'm gona do a bit ov cabinets on cleats mancunian cleats ha ha defo do cleats naw Brill vid mark keep it up👍

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Anthony. I massively appreciate your honesty. I hope you pop yours on Instagram when it is done .

  • @DebsHill1
    @DebsHill1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    some cool ideas

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Debs.

  • @jamesmcc5147
    @jamesmcc5147 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love the video, Mark. Put a French cleat system in this year, but need to get cracking on more holders, so your video has given me the inspiration to do so. I'll probably stick with the traditional cleats, though. I'm happ with them. Thinking 3D is a great point. One holder I would recommend is a saw holder which holds your saws by friction and dowels. Works a treat.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you James. And we are very much in sync on this. I was planning on the exact design of saw holder but just ran out of time for the video so I plan a follow up if this one gets a few views. The traditional cleats are absolutely fine too, they have held up this well for so long.

  • @frrapp2366
    @frrapp2366 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    another home run great vid and advice

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats very kind, I really enjoyed making this one.

  • @paulmaryon9088
    @paulmaryon9088 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Mark, another great and informative video, still looking foeward to the costings on the workshop, stay lucky and keep 'em coming

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Paul. Seems this is a knock on effect of the build taking longer than I expected. I promise it will come and well before spring .

  • @501meganinja
    @501meganinja 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love it mate, I’m going to use it when I renovate my garage for sure!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. It's really fun to experiment with.

  • @robertmaggi6979
    @robertmaggi6979 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant Mark Nice work as always mate i will be steeling some of those ideas love them all but especially the file and chisel holder im glad u got rid of those horrible and bad use of space magnet strips and your bin idea is the hero iv still got a plastic bag hanging on the side of my work bench on a hook so ill be looking fwrd of building your shop bin idea great work your a legend mate .

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hi Robert. Thank you for the kind comment. I was worried the file holder would not hold up but so far so good. And waaaay better than the magnet strip, though they are good if you have the space . But the bin still wins out.

  • @spuds6423
    @spuds6423 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool vid!!! 👍👍👍 Very practical 😁

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much. Really appreciated.

  • @markwalczak3374
    @markwalczak3374 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All looking good Mark new space really taking shape 👏

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats kind Mark, thank you

  • @jimadams6159
    @jimadams6159 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant, so simple but tremendously effective. All looks so good too.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you Jim. Much appreciated.

  • @mental963
    @mental963 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, given me some inspiration for changing up my cleat wall….thanks mate!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very welcome. And thank you

  • @FearsomeWarrior
    @FearsomeWarrior 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great seeing you in larger shop. Great video. Shops are always evolving. Love seeing more of the person reflected in the space. Personalized with other interests sprinkled in.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What a greta comment. Thank you very much.

  • @prpman99
    @prpman99 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey thanks for the informative video. Have a laser and like your ideas. Always finding more ways to make use of the laser. Best French cleat video I've watched so far. Good job.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, thats really kind. thank you. I feel that I am in the same boat. I am reaching for the laser more and more as I learn what it can do.

  • @stewartg2101
    @stewartg2101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Vid as always Mark. Thank you for sharing. Keep up the good work sir. 👍👍

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Stewart.

  • @sus8e462
    @sus8e462 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you! So many great suggestions--want to apply a lot of this for my leather work studio, as well as DIY tools in my basement!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are very welcome. Thank you for watching.

  • @drewachong
    @drewachong 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! I am redoing my garage shop and am getting ready to build my French cleat wall. You had a lot of great ideas on accessories to make. I can't wait to put some of those ideas to use!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is so much fun just throwing different holders together. They dont have to be smart. But they can be. Good luck with yours. If you come up with any that I have missed let me know so I can steal the ideas as my own lol.

  • @puddinggeek4623
    @puddinggeek4623 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video. I have watched quite a few French cleat videos and this is one of the best. Keep up the good work.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is a very big compliment. thank you

  • @lqqkout8214
    @lqqkout8214 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video! Thank you for sharing your viewpoints on french cleats and comparing them to pegboards. I've seen plenty of videos on the topic and your points about utilizing depth and adding efficiencies are very insightful!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. I really enjoyed making this one. Seems I am a little addicted to it.

  • @webdevmstr
    @webdevmstr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One of the best French cleat videos ever. I've watched it about 5 times to get all the ideas in. The glue cleat holder is epic. Would you be willing to sell your cleat SVG?

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats really kind. Thank you. I dont sell these as I am still in the early stages of doing this YT thing. I would be happy to email you the file. It is pretty rough. Email me at startmaking2022@gmail.com and I can reply with the attachment.

    • @webdevmstr
      @webdevmstr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@startmaking1 thank you very much.

  • @charliethebubbles
    @charliethebubbles 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your enthusiasm is is amazing, after watching this it’s french cleats all the way for me. Keep these awesome videos coming.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you kindly. Lovely comment.

  • @terryrogers1025
    @terryrogers1025 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you sir, enjoyed the video, definitely something to consider. You have a really nice shop.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you Terry.

  • @Mellif-tools
    @Mellif-tools 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    amazing vid

  • @petrsidlo7614
    @petrsidlo7614 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A couple of notes: 1) I like the way you store your squares, putting them sideways maximizes the number of things next to each other and is much more practical than putting them flat on the wall
    2) The same principle can be used for your saws. A simple board with a few cross cuts can be used to store both your japanese saws and your western saws sideways, again, maximizing the number of them/making space for something else. 3) For handplanes and random other stuff that is more blocky - if you have enough depth space from the wall, consider building a simple open floorstanding shelving unit. The most space for planes is gained by putting them side by side on a flat surface, very much like the rows and rows of molding planes you see in old woodworking shops. Plus they are much more easier to grab and return that way. Any space not used for planes on the shelves can be then used for any other blocky thing you need to keep close - sharpening gear, power tools, bit boxes, the list is endless.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, thank you for such a detailed comment. I love the saw idea and very much plan to implement it on stage 2. I like the plane idea too but I have to decide first which ones need to be close to hand and which ones I have for the fun of it. Thank you for the feedback though. much appreciated.

  • @webdevmstr
    @webdevmstr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is more than kind. Above and beyond. thank you

  • @DavidC0962
    @DavidC0962 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video Mark. Thanks for all of the ideas. Perfect timing too as I’m currently looking at all my tools lying around the floor of my new shed and wondering what to do about it.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are welcome. I am so happy to be able to see the floor again

  • @JohnHibbard0808
    @JohnHibbard0808 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GREAT video!! I now have a weekend project and it is getting my workshop organized with French Cleats! Thanks for this one!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi John. That sounds like a good way to spend a weekend.

  • @thistledownwoodcraft3426
    @thistledownwoodcraft3426 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cleat on the bench, genius! Thanks for all this, I am out to get some 3/8" ply now.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much.

  • @Toots8888
    @Toots8888 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’s the second time I’ve missed a notification for a vid…anyway I’m glad as I love the French Cleat system… glue gun holster! Yup, I need. Hey, here is one for you - IKEA do a paper dispenser for children. I discovered I can mount a whole range of tapes… I bet you could design a French Cleat version. I love mine…so useful and allows me to access tape length etc really easily. Thanks for this vid. I just love storage solutions…being creative often means needing a wide range of products easily available, yet well organised. 🌈✨👏🏻✨🌈

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who knows how YT works with notifications and all. I think it is whether YT determines my video to be suitable to everyone or just a few. Maybe it depends on the content . Love the tape French cleat idea. I am slowly putting some more 'clever ' ideas together to make an additional video . Will have to take a look. Thank you.

  • @stuartkorte1642
    @stuartkorte1642 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes. I have some of his products. 👍

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brilliiant. He does an amazing job.

  • @daviddura1172
    @daviddura1172 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    outstanding

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you David.

  • @3d-cnc245
    @3d-cnc245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some great ideas

  • @Venomator.
    @Venomator. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Incredibly interesting and well constructed video, thank you! I am reconfiguring my small workshop in the New Year and have been considering French Cleating it. I have not seen a better, more instructive and entertaining review of FC use, just brilliant, and so very easy… 👏🏻
    Great tips on cutting the FCs themselves and the various holders, not to mention the use of a back board, which I had not previously considered.
    Thanks again… 👍🏻

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats very kind, thank you. I hope your refit goes well.

  • @Greyotterstudio
    @Greyotterstudio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great ideas as always! If I ever get a workshop that isn’t my conservatory I’ll be sure to use some of these!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Alex. Workshop with a view is what you have.

  • @EngineerMikeF
    @EngineerMikeF 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    IIWMI'd put a grab handle on the file holder so I could grab it off the wall & fish out what I need then drop it back in place. Probably do the same with a few others

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is a great idea. Trust an engineer to find the simple improver. Thank you

  • @snaplash
    @snaplash 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most of the time, all my stuff just lives on the workbench, and I move enough aside to make room for whatever I'm working on at the moment.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hear that. I do the same until it drives me nuts.

  • @couchdweller9364
    @couchdweller9364 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those bracts are a great idea I'm using them really upped my wall

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are really easy to put on so many things. But the old way works too for some.

  • @ddatta56
    @ddatta56 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’s a brilliant upgrade to an already decent system 👍🏻👏🏻

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much. I love the French cleat system.

  • @karenalefounder4083
    @karenalefounder4083 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chris at Glimpse inside is still only shipping in US no UK yet.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a shame. I could not find one for the uk. Good opportunity for someone maybe

  • @TootEmCarMan
    @TootEmCarMan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool vid!
    Some very good ideas, you obviously put a lot of thought into it! :)

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you. I do seem to be thinking about the workshop a lot. No bad thing I guess.

  • @tishhobbs6998
    @tishhobbs6998 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm planning a closet room in my small duplex. You've got me rethinking my whole world. My largest obstacle is committing to design. A wall of cleats will allow me to be as wacky as I wish and add as needed.
    Questions, please. I will be going into masonry walls. All but a small section btw bath and kitchen which has a tiny bit of sheetrock so there is no 16" on center studs to go into.
    1. How thick should backing board be?2. How far should I space the tapcons (masonry screws) on backer board?
    How many rows of screws?
    3. How long of screws would you recommend?
    Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. This will get me going with less anxiety about how many drawers, shelves, hanging rods, etc. I can do as I need.
    Cheers!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi. Apologies that it has taken a while to reply. I have been trying to figure out the best way to answer. I have to say that I am no expert in the construction side of this and have never mounted a cleat wall onto a masonry wall. I dont want to give you my best guess but instead would recommend that you join the French cleat FB group as they have a very active community that answers questions exactly like this and have far more expertise than I can offer.
      regards
      Mark

  • @magic.marmot
    @magic.marmot 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. Very much apprecated.

  • @dougdavidson175
    @dougdavidson175 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice to see the shop progressing M8! My 3x3m pop-up gazebo is in the box awaiting the Big Day Opening. Merry Christmas. Take care & stay safe.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Doug and Merry Xmas to you too. I need one of those gazebos, mine did not survive the winter. Not a surprise.

  • @drewc4204
    @drewc4204 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude! You''re a freaky genius for french cleats! I love it! Im going to steal a lot of these ideas and modify them towards my space. Thank you for all your thinking and developing. Your altruism is palpable and the world needs more of it. Earned a subscriber today for sure. =]

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi drew. you are very welcome. Steal away and make them better. Then show them to me and I can make some of my own. Love this community.

  • @TheTimutube
    @TheTimutube 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a fab guy.subbed.tim in uk

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you very much.

  • @gothscorpion2542
    @gothscorpion2542 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonderful vid again. Thank you for your time and passion. I know of a wise older man that combined french cleat and peg board. Yup! He took his time and used 1x3 pine boarders, and struts every 16in, but holy crap is his tool board full but clean looking and organized. OMG it's..... it's just awe inspiring. I wish I could get a pic but he's on the other coast. One of his incredible idea too was he put scrap peg board piece on a couple 45° cleats, enlarged the holes and they hold his router bits and other stuff like the same. And yes he already understood bout the depth space you are talking about. He also deconstructed all his f clamps.... He could make any size f clamp up to 48inch brilliant man

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He sounds like a smart and organised man. Thank you.

  • @tomjudkins3799
    @tomjudkins3799 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Put your magnetic holder on the front of your new chisel holder.

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love that idea. Very efficient.

  • @jimrosson6702
    @jimrosson6702 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Mark another absolutely great video so many great ideas I just wish I had room to put up some French cleats I share a shop and I have the middle section so I only have about 20 feet of wall space and there’s a big window right in the middle of it. I need to move some stuff around and clear up wall space and make some French cleats to store my tools you gave me so many great ideas. Thanks for sharing as always

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Jim.

    • @NigelTolley
      @NigelTolley 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You could build a free standing wall, or even a movable wall on wheels! That's my plan.

  • @JasonGrissom
    @JasonGrissom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whoa! I have A LOT of work to do now. My French cleat wall looks like a French cheap wall compared to this. 😂 Thanks for sharing all the awesome ideas Mark!

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Jason. Hope you are well bud. With those 3D skills though, the possibilities are endless.

  • @douglasteachout1958
    @douglasteachout1958 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was glad that you mentioned where to get the cleats. I was thinking, "great, I do not own, or want to own, a laser cutter." Now, I can order some and get to work.

    • @niceguy191
      @niceguy191 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You could probably stack 4-5 layers of plywood and batch cut them on a bandsaw if you have one

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      From all accounts he makes some really nice cleat wall accessories. I wish they shipped to the UK

  • @stephenlukyn2138
    @stephenlukyn2138 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks

    • @startmaking1
      @startmaking1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you Stephen.