'Don't Criminalize Marital Rape': Center Govt Takes Stand In Supreme Court | The Urban Debate
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- In today's episode of 'The Urban Debate', anchor Shreya Dhoundial discusses marital rape hearings in the Supreme Court. Former ASG Pinki Anand says that you need recourse to the remedies that are available in laws. Tune in for the full episode.
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Every night start taking written consent to to prove it is not rape.
What about that 75% false rape and 85% false domestic violence case against men suffering from?
Where the published statistics that I can read online that confirms the "75% false rape" cases. Honest question.
@@TonyMandez-mo2ut
75% cases are not rape at all.
Premarital sex was considered as rape, prostitution is also considered as rape, all consensual sex are rape.
The actual 'rape' is very very less
@@savitar8002
Exactly.
The definition of rape and even marriage is controversial in Indian judiciary.
@@TonyMandez-mo2ut NCRB DATA READ THAT ... somewhere closed to it ... all states of India... even RTI will suppress these data due to corrupt judiciary involved in extorting money form men and there families...
@@TonyMandez-mo2ut just type in Google please... It's a better way to know this...
If that becomes a criminal offence, a woman can accuse her spouse anytime. This will eventually result in fewer marriages or even marriage- phobia and increase number of red streets. People who bat for this should evaluate its consequences very well beforehand.
If you can simply trust your husband-to-be not to rπpe you and you should ‘evaluate' the consequences of the marriage first, then you can just as easily trust your wife-to-be not to accuse you and should “evaluate' the consequences of the marriage first”.
@@lucifers_advocateThen let's make the law and make it gender neutral and why can only husbands rape in the context of marriage where there is more liberty between couple than in non marital relationships?
@@lucifers_advocate martial rape is criminalised... I dont know why they are not giving full context
@@lucifers_advocate i am not against criminalising marital rape ..but wife should provide evidence 😂😂😂
@@nalpamaramnambeeshan2982 Sure. Could've added that in when you edited your comment. Lets see what Chatgpt makes of it, yeah? Human interpretation can always have faults.
“The commenter seems to be arguing against criminalizing marital rape in India, suggesting that it could have unintended negative consequences. Their main point is that if marital rape becomes a criminal offense, it might lead to misuse, where women could falsely accuse their husbands. The commenter believes this could discourage people from getting married, create a "fear of marriage" among men, and potentially lead to an increase in prostitution ("red streets"). They argue that those advocating for this law should consider these potential outcomes before pushing for it.
However, this perspective is controversial, as it appears to prioritize concerns about false accusations and the potential impact on marriage over the fundamental issue of protecting individuals from violence within marriage. Critics would counter that legal protection against marital rape is necessary to ensure equality and human rights, regardless of these speculated outcomes.”
Soo.. were you just adding to the conversation for the sake of it now or?
If having sex (even if wife doesn't want sex) is considered rape then why marriage??? If the same thing happened to husband (wife forcing a husband to have sex) .
Average penetrative sex by a man is 5-10mins, if wife force him to do more than 10mins, can man file marital rape against wife in that case???
5 to 10 min maybe for inexperienced ppl😂😂😂..improve ur performance 😂😂.
@@stephenstrange4239 i m taking about penetration time not foreplay....
@@stephenstrange4239butt it will be a criminal offence 😤
Good point bro
@@stephenstrange4239dude average is 2min in most men case what are you talking about , you just watched too much por*
If a woman can not have sex with husband then why marry at all. Don't the men/ husbands have any rights?
With this kind of law and Arguments the Indian society will collapse soon.
You will marry just to engage in sex then?
@@usri43then why marry. 99% of married people do sex. If you want to hang out then just be friends. No need to go through the process of marriage
It already has collapsed
@@usri43 Your ignorance of purpose of marital relationships must have been developed from your circumstances you are grown up with. Change your side and see the other side view also. Goodluck.👍
Sex is 50% most important part in marriage
Before that, can we make crimes lile rape, SA, SH, DV, stalking and voyersim gender-neutral??? Why can't men too have equal protection of law as per Article 14 of the Constitution??? Why shouldn't male victims of said crimes get justice or female perpetrators not be punished for committing said crimes???
Bro first they make POCSO gender neutral. lakhs of innocent minor boys in prison just because they were in romantic relationship with girls.
if both were minors, only the boy is punished. even if he the victim.
in tamilnaadu, 12 year victim boy booked under POCSO by women force and put him in jail, 17 years old girl got pregnant.
he is the victim and instaed of arresting the 17 year old criminal they arrested innocent 12 year old child. this is cruel.
POCSO meant to protect chidren. but here its punishing the victim child. becasue girl is deafult victim even if she is the criminal.
If your sister was graped by her husband, I'm guessing you'll just pat him.on the back and say "no problem, better luck next time". Don't you have any honor upholding your women's values anymore, or do you not consider yourself much of a man to care about that sort of thing?
How can a man prove himself innocent , if a wife filed a false case of marital r**e against him ?
I am pretty sure the written agreement will not stand in court, what if the women mentioned a date when they were not indulged in the act . How can the man prove it? The problem with these type of laws is that the burden of evidence is put upon the accused party.
People who are with this law please tell me how a man should protect himself from the misuse of this law ?
Should he indulge in physical relation with his wife in such a way that others could see and ensure that there are witnesses who will support him. If so then then dignity of women is already lost 😑😑😑.
People are so eager to bring this law but doesn't have any answer on how innocents should protect themselves.
If wife asks husband for money or jewelry after marriage it should be declared a crime and wife thrown in jail.
If man grapes husband, should it be declared a crime? And should the man be thrown in to jail?
1-Bring no fault divorce can be avail by both parties
2-Easy the process of divorce ( 3 month limit)
No financial loss and imposed financial burden on men.
3-Any case filed on can be completed within 3 months so that if that man is culprit then he should get punishment and if he is not culprit then he should not be harrased by year long process of court.
4- legalise marriage prenup.
Terms and conditions should be decided before marriage.
Then bring any law, no problem 😊.
Women can't have 🍰 cake and eat it too.(This rule is for everyone)
Govt is right. This dumbness should stop. Laws are becoming ultra biased towards men. Women can accuse anytime when she wants and u can't do anything to prove her wrong. Ur whole life can be wasted bcoz of all this.
Biased against men.
The anchor herself is setting a biased narrative .
She has not even once mentioned that legal remedies are available in laws to protect women from marital rape in marriage.
Sensationalism plays havoc.
IT IS BETTER TO BAN MARRIAGE IN INDIA BY GOVERNMENT
THAT IS FINE
Martial r@pe is criminalised already. Let me explain. The Domestic violence act which is section 85 and 86 in BNS ( previously known as 498A ) covers sexual violence against spouse. Martial R@pe is sexual violence. If a woman is r@ped by her spouse she can still file a case against her spouse.
@@Home-o2v4h so here an explanation and description of BNS 85 (it's the same for 86). Warning its long - so try not to fall asleep:
Section 85 of the BNS:
"85. Husband or relative of husband of a woman subjecting her to cruelty. - Whoever, being the husband or the relative of the husband of a woman, subjects such woman to cruelty shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to three years and shall also be liable to fine."
Explanation:
For the purposes of this section, "cruelty" means - (a) Any willful conduct which is of such a nature as is likely to cause grave injury or danger to life, limb, or health (whether mental or physical) of the woman; or (b) Harassment of the woman where such harassment is with a view to coercing her or any person related to her to meet any unlawful demand for any property or valuable security or is on account of failure by her or any person related to her to meet such demand.
But does BNS 85 and 86 explicitly state marital rape as one of the offenses protected under it? No it doesn't. Here's an explanation of section 85 (and similarly 86):
85. Husband or relative of husband of a woman subjecting her to cruelty. - Whoever, being the husband or the relative of the husband of a woman, subjects such woman to cruelty shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to three years and shall also be liable to fine."
The explanation of BNS 85:
For the purposes of this section, "cruelty" means - (a) Any willful conduct which is of such a nature as is likely to cause grave injury or danger to life, limb, or health (whether mental or physical) of the woman; or (b) Harassment of the woman where such harassment is with a view to coercing her or any person related to her to meet any unlawful demand for any property or valuable security or is on account of failure by her or any person related to her to meet such demand.
Apart from injury (of which grape does not always result in visible injury), the only other prosecutable offense mentioned is 'unlawful demand for any property or valuable security'.
So given that one of the ways that Marital rape laws protect women by the prosecution proving that penetration took place (this includes other signs of sexual abuse) without the victims consent or without the defendants reasinable belief that there was consent, where in BNS sections 85 and 86 is this mentioned as prosecutable offense?
can we make crimes lile rape, SA, SH, DV, stalking and voyersim gender-neutral??? Why can't men too have equal protection of law as per Article 14 of the Constitution??? Why shouldn't male victims of said crimes get justice or female perpetrators not be punished for committing said crimes???
I’d like you to take a step back and provide an objective overview of the matrimonial dispute landscape for men, especially considering how burdensome marriage can feel nowadays. To fully grasp the legal framework you mentioned, I suggest looking into three key statistics:
1. The total number of cases registered.
2. The number of cases that were settled and the grounds for those settlements.
3. If possible, a breakdown of how many cases were based on false or fabricated claims.
Specifically, consider the following laws:
- Section 498A
- The Domestic Violence Act
- Section 125 of the CrPC
It seems that journalism today often leans more towards activism than objective reporting, lacking thorough research and failing to present both sides of the story.
Is withholding sex for longer time by wife should also be criminalized ?
I don't think anyone of these lawyers are able to give justice to such an issue.
And I think Adv. Nazia Ilahi Adv.of the SC should have been there in the debate.
Media should not provide one sided arguments and brain wash the populace. Instead it should inform the viewer on facts, objectively, and let viewer decide.
Whatever we do, it shouldn't feel forced, even if it's for a positive outcome. Be mindful. ☝️
If this is criminalized many women will use this as a weapon to extort money and property .
And this is the opinion you have of all women then - did you grow up in the slums or some backwards village somewhere?to you all Women , they're liers and extortionists? What happens to those women are actually graped? The man walks around free having commited an offence. However which way you look at it grape is a heinous crime, but you want to excuse it?
Criminalizing Martial rape in short it may help women bt it long run it destroys the institution of marriage which would eventually destabilize the order of the Indian society & the more sustainable solution is to work on the core of the problem go back to basics like the rite kind of parenting & instill values from childhood actly the more viable solution in the longrun is to raise the moral standards of the society ofcourse it takes more time & effort it will have everlasting impact on the society...
Dear's whatever we do, we should strive to empower others to make their own choices, rather than forcing them into a particular path, even if our intention is positive ! ☝️
In my point of view the government has taken the right stand in this case....if we criminalise it some women will misuse it ...but at the same time it's essential to have stricter laws to safeguard women against domestic violence
Jab tak purush aayog nahi banega. Purush mantraalay nahi banega. Gender neutral laws and policies nahi hogi. Mahila aarakshan band nahi hoga. Tab tak bhaarat me purusho ki and purusho ki family ki durgati hoti rahegi. Sabhi party mahilaavaadi maanasikata ki hai. Vote for Nota purush and purusho ki family. Save men, save country, save bhaarat.
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India needs Morgan & Morgan. They got fast corporate jets to get there and help! #LAW
First is ban arranged marriage
*भारत का कानून ही अधुरा है* 😅
*ये तो किसी दिन यह भी कह देंगे कि गैंगरेप भी रेप नहीं है बल्कि वो तों सामुहिक संभोग क्रिया है* 😢😢
Mangal suthru......nt mn the rght to do anything
Willingness s impt.y she oppose counts.thr ll b sm problems.
Then it's a good deed?😅
I want husband’s money without having sex
@@usri43indian law will arrest husband and transfer all hubby's wealth to wife