The NC700 microphone sounded significantly better than the QC Ultra, which was surprising to me, considering that the Ultras were supposed to be a refresh of the NC700s.
How in the WFH era Bose managed to release headphones with microphones significantly worse than QC35 (let alone NC700) is beyond me. Absolutely shocking. Bose, just release QC35 with (1) type c (2) ability to switch noise cancelling from high to low to off and (3) Bluetooth 5.3. That’s it! I’d buy them tomorrow.
I have the NC700 and was thinking of upgrading because I find the call quality almost unusable, especially with any wind - and there have also been all sorts of problems with the firmware. I guess the Ultra isn't the answer.
On the mic quality the NC700 did the best from my perspective in the outdoor and vacuum tests. While your voice sounded more natural on the Ultra's, it also allowed some of the higher freq. of the vacuum to come through with it, while the 700's got rid of it more.
I had both the Qc45 and Nc700, the sound quality is not even comparable, NC 700 have a much richer sound, much clearer highs and mids and plus they are more comfortable because they are made with higher quality materials so it is easier to wear them for long sessions without having yours ears completely sweaty. I'm a musician and have the perfect pitch so I can quite strongly distinguish sounds of different headphones, Nc700 are on another level.
30 mm drivers with Doppler distortion and a fake artificially boosted sound is another level? Bro you need to try some sennheisers. Bose won’t even let you use the headphones powered off with a wire because then you would hear the truth. These are cheap speaker headphones with a digital signal processor to boost the bass and even put the response.
The QC35’s I got in 2016 are still going strong. I have no idea how. I’ve traveled all around the world with these things, gotten them wet, never been particularly careful with them. I’ve changed the pads a bunch of times, but that’s it. The original battery still seems to get 8-10ish hours too. I’m may solder in a new battery soon tho.
I have the QC35II and have been thinking about getting a new pair, so I really appreciate your video! I’m seriously underwhelmed by the microphone on the QC Ultra. I agree with many of the other comments about the 700’s having a better overall microphone for Bose. Though, I’ve seen some comparisons against the XM5 microphone, and none of the Bose headphones really seem to compare, to my ears. While the ANC on the QC Ultra headphones does seem a bit better than the QC35II, it doesn’t seem like this generation is enough to warrant an upgrade, for my wallet. Maybe I’d feel differently if I were back to flying as frequently as prior to 2020. I would have loved to see a busy coffee shop comparison of these headphones, if that’s of interest to you and your other viewers. Also, like others here, I’d love to see a comparison against the AirPods Max and XM5 cans. Great video, thanks!
Totally put off upgrading - my qc35s are total workhorses- I want to buy Bluetooth 5.3 / USBC / great audio / great anc / great comfort / good mics for phone calls - the rest is useless garbage. Why is it so hard?
@@L.D.1 thanks! I haven’t upgraded yet, and probably won’t unless these just suddenly quit working. I use them anywhere from 2 - 10 hours per day, and my usage has pretty much been that way since day 1 in 2018. With how long I’ve had these and as much as I use them, I’m amazed I still get 20ish hours out of them for music, phone and video calls. When new headphones come out, I’m always looking at them to see if I’m “missing” anything since I use them so much. I would have expected the newer Bose models to have a more refined sound than these since it’s a couple generations newer. I appreciate your comment as it appears I’m not really missing out on much.
@@mikegriffinasl I would love to have more range in my house, but for me, it hasn’t been a dealbreaker without the latest Bluetooth version. When I travel, I’m usually not that far from any of my devices. I agree, USB-C would be great, but I already have the cables for these, as I’m sure you do as well. I have an adapter I bought for like $10 for a set of various USB iterations over the years. I put one on the end of my USB-C cable and then I only have to travel with one cord. I know, not the same as just having USB-C, but it’s a workaround. Take a look at L..D.1’s comment about the sound of the 35’s. I guess the ANC, mics, and comfort are subjective :) I’m sticking with the 35’s for now unless they quit working on me. I don’t need the head rattling bass of the Sony’s, or the AirPods Max statement (and I’m sure they sound good though). For me, Bose killed the Ultra’s with the capacitive buttons. Good luck on your quest to find the next perfect set of headphones for you! :)
My QC35 has been a solid choice. I had them for 4 years now. I work in a dirty environment and beat them up. They have not been babied. I had a sony before. They fell apart, and they had a feedback screech in the drivers that were so loud. I loved the Sony when it worked. They had better anc and got louder. The head band came apart at the seams. Then came the screech of death. It's a known issue with Sony headphones. My QC35 is a tank and has stood up to the dirty environment and is being used for 10 hrs, 6 days a week for years. I would recommend these to any tradesman. My only gripe is that they are quieter than the Sony at same volume.
For conference calls, NC700 with 8 mics do heavy duty active noise cancellation (ANC), QCUltra has only 4 mics and fails on this example for outdoor conference calls. I have over 1,000 hours of conference calls done on NC700 through loud places (airports, Starbucks, outdoor busy streets) and it delivers for conference calls. I am worried QuietComfort Ultra will NOT meet this standard. So, this is a 'backward' motion for Bose on this. QCUltra is super amazing for music. I felt like I was swimming across the waves and rhythms but aptX Adaptive is not supported on iOS devices as of yet. So, you are left with 'inactive' feature - not sure if I will get the same sound quality for music. Finally, at these prices, I am surprised Bose did not put "find my device" technology for loss prevention measure. The cheap (in quality) Apple AirPods Max (got a pair and after just 3 conference calls where it did zero help to cancel noise for other party from hearing, I returned them) got tracking system for loss prevention on them.
Do you plan to try out the bose quietcomfort headphone ( dropped along with ultra ) ? Heard it's essentially a QC45 with wind block ( not sure if the ANC is improved ).
My 700s are my everyday phones, I love the touch controls especially when wearing gloves. I just have to remove one glove or mitt to control them. Nice when walking, I have a pair of 35s for working and getting dirty.
i bought the qc ultra a few weeks ago and i will be returning them. the button controls are horrible. instead of volume buttons there is a touch sensitive slider that barely functions and is right next to the other buttons so there are a lot of accidental volume changes/accidental volume cranks. the aluminum brackets also pinch your fingers sometimes when you take them off and since they are metal any vibration will travel into the headphone, if your hair touches them and slides along them as you move your head you can hear it. the ear cups also are really stiff and don't form a good seal around your head if you have a large jaw.
Is a Upgrade from Bose 35 ii to the newest QC Ultra for ANC specially a good idea. If the 35 are 100% ANC, how much more u get in your opinion? Thank you.
i had a qc 35ii that i threw away a year ago and just now bought the qc ultras and i could swear the qc35ii's were better in almost every way. i wouldn't recommend upgrading, the button controls are garbage and there's a touch slider instead of volume buttons. another thing is that there is no wired mode like with the qc35ii's, meaning if the battery is dead, the headphones are not usable. and it's like the ultras don't draw any power from the audio jack, i use headphones mostly at the computer and with the 35ii's i would plug them into the copmuter and the battery would last many days because it was drawing power from the computer, but the battery drain on the ultras when plugged in is the same as if they were not.
Based on your experiments, with the rise of people needing to Zoom and talk to one another, the NC 700's sounded the best. As you stood in traffic. Nice reviews.
The Ultras have slightly better ANC and sound quality, but if you're happy with the 35s (which to me are the most comfortable), then I would say no need to splurge on the Ultras.
Hey, I can't seem to find the Active Sense feature on my Bose QuietComfort Ultra Over-Ear Wireless Headphones. Have you got any idea why that might be? I'm in the UK, by the way.
Also, what i do not understand is why my bose avaiation headset for work is a hundred times better than the consumer one? i understand the aviation headsets are double or triple the price, but if your selling a million more in yhe consumer sector, why the hell arent they at least as good as the bose avaiation stuff?
@@RawansReviewsThanks for the reply. Great review! Just at 12:51 you mention that “…700s are the only one with touch controls… if you hate touch controls stay away from the 700s”. Just thought of mentioning that.
@@joeztan Oh--good catch! I was probably thinking there along the lines of completely controlling them with touch rather than buttons, but fair point--should have phrased that better. Thanks for watching!
I had them - mine had the ear pressure problem with ANC turned on. With the Q45s, it works perfectly. That being said, they sound great, especially wired.
Sad that this video is missing the new QuietComfort that replaces the QC45. Do you know if the Aware mode on the new QuietComfort has improved from the QC45 to make it more comparable with the new Ultras?
Because a single product is rarely the best in each and every category. So what wins would depend on what you're looking for in a product. What wins for me might not win for you. Hence why I try to lay out all the comparison points, and leave the decision of what's best for you, to you..
Time goes by, and the QC35II is still the best Bose headphones ever. It's legendary, people love that classic design, physical buttons, microphones, sound and construction. The QC45 and new QC is a cheap attempt to replicate the original by cheapening everything they can. Hopefully Bose will come to their senses, bring back aluminum, remove the aggressive noise reduction during calls and return to the roots of QC35 in future versions. In the meantime, I have more faith in the Airpods Max 2 if they make an on-off button.
I really don't understand the need for the awareness mode that so many headphones are getting. It clearly boosts outside audio to a higher level than if you took the headphones off and I don't know about you, but I'm not looking to hear things around me even louder. Tested the Ultras and they are a significant upgrade in audio quality compared to previous Bose models, but not being able to torn off ANC (without activating awareness) is a deal breaker! Bose, get you sh*t together and lets have the feature we had on the QC 35 II for years - The ability to turn off ANC without activating any kind of awareness or similar. The Ultras a so close to being the perfect balance between comfort, audio quality, travel size and ANC. Guess I have to keep the QC35 IIs for travel and the B&O H95 for pure audio quality.
Agree that generally one wouldn't want to amplify outside sounds. But there are plenty of use cases where one might want awareness mode. Like walking or biking around the city, to hear any cars--or any other situation where you still want to hear what's happening around you while still enjoying the music.
In my case, I have just the one pair of headphones and wear them when playing guitar along with music. Quiet mode makes the guitar difficult to hear, but aware mode feels and sounds similar to open back style headphones. It's just how I prefer using mine.
Thanks for this review.... I live in a very tropical area and headphones with leatherette covering seems to lose aethetics too quickly........so I'm curious as to how the leather covering on yours is fairing right now
You must explain that the codecs aptx is ONLY ADAPTIVE... no aptx hd, no lossless...and you must have snapdragon chip to have the aptx on the ultras... it's important to mention
Got myself the NC700 headphones a few years ago. My only problem with them is the narrow headband which tends to become uncomfortable after a while. I am still unsure whether upgrading to either the QC Ultra or QC45 is worth it....
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The NC700 microphone sounded significantly better than the QC Ultra, which was surprising to me, considering that the Ultras were supposed to be a refresh of the NC700s.
I wouldn't say significantly. The N700 had a shit ton of eco so think the call quality on the QC ultra were better for that reason.
How in the WFH era Bose managed to release headphones with microphones significantly worse than QC35 (let alone NC700) is beyond me. Absolutely shocking. Bose, just release QC35 with (1) type c (2) ability to switch noise cancelling from high to low to off and (3) Bluetooth 5.3. That’s it! I’d buy them tomorrow.
Would’ve automatically purchased the QC Ultra, but keep hearing the call/mic quality is worse than the NC700… wtf were you thinking Bose?
I have the NC700 and was thinking of upgrading because I find the call quality almost unusable, especially with any wind - and there have also been all sorts of problems with the firmware. I guess the Ultra isn't the answer.
@@makanmataWhat are the firmware issues you face? Mine - unable to update the firmware to the latest one, which seems to be common.
On the mic quality the NC700 did the best from my perspective in the outdoor and vacuum tests. While your voice sounded more natural on the Ultra's, it also allowed some of the higher freq. of the vacuum to come through with it, while the 700's got rid of it more.
I had both the Qc45 and Nc700, the sound quality is not even comparable, NC 700 have a much richer sound, much clearer highs and mids and plus they are more comfortable because they are made with higher quality materials so it is easier to wear them for long sessions without having yours ears completely sweaty. I'm a musician and have the perfect pitch so I can quite strongly distinguish sounds of different headphones, Nc700 are on another level.
how about ultra?
@@Dalai.Lamachio I don't know because I haven't test them yet
@@parham5668 could you please test and share your experience here? I just returned my NC 700 and going for Ultra.
30 mm drivers with Doppler distortion and a fake artificially boosted sound is another level? Bro you need to try some sennheisers. Bose won’t even let you use the headphones powered off with a wire because then you would hear the truth. These are cheap speaker headphones with a digital signal processor to boost the bass and even put the response.
I bought the ultra but I really love the 700 design if they can make internal upgrades while keeping the design I will buy another pair of those
Unpopular opinion here, as I know many hated the design of the 700s--but I agree with you, I actually love it too!
@@RawansReviewsSame here
Which one have better ANC?
The QC35’s I got in 2016 are still going strong. I have no idea how. I’ve traveled all around the world with these things, gotten them wet, never been particularly careful with them. I’ve changed the pads a bunch of times, but that’s it. The original battery still seems to get 8-10ish hours too. I’m may solder in a new battery soon tho.
Is it just me or does the QC35’s mic still sound the clearest in traffic?
In my opinion the NC700 was the clearest, but the 35 was a close second. The ultra was the worst
Please do an ultra vs xm5 comparison!
tried both, this generation boses are better
I have the QC35II and have been thinking about getting a new pair, so I really appreciate your video!
I’m seriously underwhelmed by the microphone on the QC Ultra. I agree with many of the other comments about the 700’s having a better overall microphone for Bose. Though, I’ve seen some comparisons against the XM5 microphone, and none of the Bose headphones really seem to compare, to my ears.
While the ANC on the QC Ultra headphones does seem a bit better than the QC35II, it doesn’t seem like this generation is enough to warrant an upgrade, for my wallet. Maybe I’d feel differently if I were back to flying as frequently as prior to 2020.
I would have loved to see a busy coffee shop comparison of these headphones, if that’s of interest to you and your other viewers.
Also, like others here, I’d love to see a comparison against the AirPods Max and XM5 cans.
Great video, thanks!
Don't do it. QC35II still is the top dog in sound quality. QC35II has 8.0 in sound while the ultras have 7.4. Should tell you something
Totally put off upgrading - my qc35s are total workhorses- I want to buy Bluetooth 5.3 / USBC / great audio / great anc / great comfort / good mics for phone calls - the rest is useless garbage. Why is it so hard?
@@L.D.1 thanks! I haven’t upgraded yet, and probably won’t unless these just suddenly quit working. I use them anywhere from 2 - 10 hours per day, and my usage has pretty much been that way since day 1 in 2018. With how long I’ve had these and as much as I use them, I’m amazed I still get 20ish hours out of them for music, phone and video calls.
When new headphones come out, I’m always looking at them to see if I’m “missing” anything since I use them so much. I would have expected the newer Bose models to have a more refined sound than these since it’s a couple generations newer. I appreciate your comment as it appears I’m not really missing out on much.
@@mikegriffinasl I would love to have more range in my house, but for me, it hasn’t been a dealbreaker without the latest Bluetooth version. When I travel, I’m usually not that far from any of my devices.
I agree, USB-C would be great, but I already have the cables for these, as I’m sure you do as well. I have an adapter I bought for like $10 for a set of various USB iterations over the years. I put one on the end of my USB-C cable and then I only have to travel with one cord. I know, not the same as just having USB-C, but it’s a workaround.
Take a look at L..D.1’s comment about the sound of the 35’s. I guess the ANC, mics, and comfort are subjective :)
I’m sticking with the 35’s for now unless they quit working on me. I don’t need the head rattling bass of the Sony’s, or the AirPods Max statement (and I’m sure they sound good though). For me, Bose killed the Ultra’s with the capacitive buttons.
Good luck on your quest to find the next perfect set of headphones for you! :)
My QC35 has been a solid choice. I had them for 4 years now. I work in a dirty environment and beat them up. They have not been babied. I had a sony before. They fell apart, and they had a feedback screech in the drivers that were so loud.
I loved the Sony when it worked. They had better anc and got louder. The head band came apart at the seams. Then came the screech of death. It's a known issue with Sony headphones.
My QC35 is a tank and has stood up to the dirty environment and is being used for 10 hrs, 6 days a week for years. I would recommend these to any tradesman. My only gripe is that they are quieter than the Sony at same volume.
why did they go back to the classic design after the 700?
I feel like the Bose QC 35 are hunting Bose enginner team. They just keep being better than anything new. The Ultra’s seems like a slight improvement.
How are the ultras vs AirPods Max?
For conference calls, NC700 with 8 mics do heavy duty active noise cancellation (ANC), QCUltra has only 4 mics and fails on this example for outdoor conference calls. I have over 1,000 hours of conference calls done on NC700 through loud places (airports, Starbucks, outdoor busy streets) and it delivers for conference calls. I am worried QuietComfort Ultra will NOT meet this standard. So, this is a 'backward' motion for Bose on this.
QCUltra is super amazing for music. I felt like I was swimming across the waves and rhythms but aptX Adaptive is not supported on iOS devices as of yet. So, you are left with 'inactive' feature - not sure if I will get the same sound quality for music.
Finally, at these prices, I am surprised Bose did not put "find my device" technology for loss prevention measure. The cheap (in quality) Apple AirPods Max (got a pair and after just 3 conference calls where it did zero help to cancel noise for other party from hearing, I returned them) got tracking system for loss prevention on them.
Do you plan to try out the bose quietcomfort headphone ( dropped along with ultra ) ? Heard it's essentially a QC45 with wind block ( not sure if the ANC is improved ).
Would definitely make an interesting comparison. Will make a review if I get my hands on them.
@@RawansReviews awesome!
The QC45 also have now wind block and adjustable ANC when you have the latest firmware update
My 700s are my everyday phones, I love the touch controls especially when wearing gloves. I just have to remove one glove or mitt to control them. Nice when walking, I have a pair of 35s for working and getting dirty.
Would love a comparison to the Sennheiser Momentum 4
i bought the qc ultra a few weeks ago and i will be returning them. the button controls are horrible. instead of volume buttons there is a touch sensitive slider that barely functions and is right next to the other buttons so there are a lot of accidental volume changes/accidental volume cranks. the aluminum brackets also pinch your fingers sometimes when you take them off and since they are metal any vibration will travel into the headphone, if your hair touches them and slides along them as you move your head you can hear it. the ear cups also are really stiff and don't form a good seal around your head if you have a large jaw.
Why did Bose ruin the call quality? Why? I'll keep m NC700, even if ANC is clearly better in the QC Ultra.
Is a Upgrade from Bose 35 ii to the newest QC Ultra for ANC specially a good idea. If the 35 are 100% ANC, how much more u get in your opinion? Thank you.
Honestly for this price and as a 7 years owner of a QC35, I don't see why I should upgrade...
i had a qc 35ii that i threw away a year ago and just now bought the qc ultras and i could swear the qc35ii's were better in almost every way. i wouldn't recommend upgrading, the button controls are garbage and there's a touch slider instead of volume buttons. another thing is that there is no wired mode like with the qc35ii's, meaning if the battery is dead, the headphones are not usable. and it's like the ultras don't draw any power from the audio jack, i use headphones mostly at the computer and with the 35ii's i would plug them into the copmuter and the battery would last many days because it was drawing power from the computer, but the battery drain on the ultras when plugged in is the same as if they were not.
Based on your experiments, with the rise of people needing to Zoom and talk to one another, the NC 700's sounded the best. As you stood in traffic. Nice reviews.
can u please compare qc ultra with Sony xm5 or any other brand headphones?
+1 I would be interested in this comparison also.
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Hey so what happens if you chuck on a pair of the noise cancelling earbuds and put the over ears over the top.
2 bad the normal QC was not in the test. I have the bose 700 and looking for a compare with the normal GC. The ultra is 140 euro more here.
Interesting. The nc700 sounded better in traffic vs the ultra.
Would you recommend upgrading from a qc35i to the ultra? I just use mine for music on the airplane
The Ultras have slightly better ANC and sound quality, but if you're happy with the 35s (which to me are the most comfortable), then I would say no need to splurge on the Ultras.
Hey, I can't seem to find the Active Sense feature on my Bose QuietComfort Ultra Over-Ear Wireless Headphones. Have you got any idea why that might be? I'm in the UK, by the way.
Brillant Review bro. Thanks
Thanks!
Very comprehensive review 👍 Completely matches my own experience with Bose
Also, what i do not understand is why my bose avaiation headset for work is a hundred times better than the consumer one? i understand the aviation headsets are double or triple the price, but if your selling a million more in yhe consumer sector, why the hell arent they at least as good as the bose avaiation stuff?
Hi!
Your answer is inside your question.
Your super headphone is for a special public who work on aviation.
The QC Ultra headphone do have touch controls. It is the volume control on the right earcup. These touch controls also double as shortcut control.
Yes they do! I said that at 1:30 ;)
@@RawansReviewsThanks for the reply. Great review! Just at 12:51 you mention that “…700s are the only one with touch controls… if you hate touch controls stay away from the 700s”. Just thought of mentioning that.
@@joeztan Oh--good catch! I was probably thinking there along the lines of completely controlling them with touch rather than buttons, but fair point--should have phrased that better. Thanks for watching!
Is QC35ii still worthy to buy
I had them - mine had the ear pressure problem with ANC turned on. With the Q45s, it works perfectly. That being said, they sound great, especially wired.
I have them and don't plan to upgrade. However, I would advise buying the Ultras. The Ultras is slightly better and worth the current price.
Sad that this video is missing the new QuietComfort that replaces the QC45.
Do you know if the Aware mode on the new QuietComfort has improved from the QC45 to make it more comparable with the new Ultras?
Unfortunately I haven't tried the Aware Mode on the new QCs, so sadly can't comment on that.
QC35 II's win in terms of sound quality. Neutral, nice, not too much bass.
Nice review 😊
Thanks!
Idk why YTers can never make a call on what wins in a comparison video
Because a single product is rarely the best in each and every category. So what wins would depend on what you're looking for in a product. What wins for me might not win for you. Hence why I try to lay out all the comparison points, and leave the decision of what's best for you, to you..
Great review!
Thanks!
Time goes by, and the QC35II is still the best Bose headphones ever. It's legendary, people love that classic design, physical buttons, microphones, sound and construction. The QC45 and new QC is a cheap attempt to replicate the original by cheapening everything they can. Hopefully Bose will come to their senses, bring back aluminum, remove the aggressive noise reduction during calls and return to the roots of QC35 in future versions. In the meantime, I have more faith in the Airpods Max 2 if they make an on-off button.
i think you're right. i really wanted to like the ultras but they just kind of suck honestly.
I really don't understand the need for the awareness mode that so many headphones are getting. It clearly boosts outside audio to a higher level than if you took the headphones off and I don't know about you, but I'm not looking to hear things around me even louder.
Tested the Ultras and they are a significant upgrade in audio quality compared to previous Bose models, but not being able to torn off ANC (without activating awareness) is a deal breaker! Bose, get you sh*t together and lets have the feature we had on the QC 35 II for years - The ability to turn off ANC without activating any kind of awareness or similar. The Ultras a so close to being the perfect balance between comfort, audio quality, travel size and ANC. Guess I have to keep the QC35 IIs for travel and the B&O H95 for pure audio quality.
Agree that generally one wouldn't want to amplify outside sounds. But there are plenty of use cases where one might want awareness mode. Like walking or biking around the city, to hear any cars--or any other situation where you still want to hear what's happening around you while still enjoying the music.
In my case, I have just the one pair of headphones and wear them when playing guitar along with music. Quiet mode makes the guitar difficult to hear, but aware mode feels and sounds similar to open back style headphones. It's just how I prefer using mine.
@@bill4123 Quite interesting that it makes such a difference for that particular situation. :)
Great comparison
Thanks!
the 700 are not comfortable in a margin from the 45 and the ANC is slightly less affective
Daym I'm glad I watch this video I'm not going to upgrade my NC700. ANC of 700 is still better.
Thanks for this review.... I live in a very tropical area and headphones with leatherette covering seems to lose aethetics too quickly........so I'm curious as to how the leather covering on yours is fairing right now
@@anthonychinonso702 yup you are right I have replace mine 3 times now
You must explain that the codecs aptx is ONLY ADAPTIVE... no aptx hd, no lossless...and you must have snapdragon chip to have the aptx on the ultras... it's important to mention
You're right--I missed this. Should have also mentioned that iPhones don't support aptX either. Thanks for the feedback.
@@RawansReviews no problem sir. Oh by the way, great channel! Excellent videos ! Thank you for your hard work :)
For my thought Bose 700 is way better
Dam. I don't care for sound quality.
I want ANC that can even block out the sun. Where I can't hear anyone talking.
Got myself the NC700 headphones a few years ago. My only problem with them is the narrow headband which tends to become uncomfortable after a while.
I am still unsure whether upgrading to either the QC Ultra or QC45 is worth it....
The ultra fu.... the other ones from behind