DIY Rust Proofing with Used Motor Oil
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- One of the best rust prevention methods is nearly free! Over several years I have found that using used motor oil as a DIY automotive rust proofing method can keep your car panels rust free and looking like new. This video shows proof with a Detroit area 2002 Kia that has been rust proofed with motor oil since new (just started on the frame rails recently) and is nearly rust free 18 years later. A special thanks goes out to ROCKROOSTER footwear :)
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I have a book my dad gave me which is the owner's manual for a 1938 ford sedan he used to have. It actually recommends that you pour motor oil in each door and other closed areas, then drive down the dustiest road you can find to stick the oil to the car. Worked great to prevent rust.
I love it. An older fella I worked with suggested this and I figured I'd give it a try - works great. He must have heard it from even older guys :)
My mini van is rust proofing itself! The other day while changing the oil i noticed how very rust free the engine compartment is where all of the oil that leaks is being deposited then contrasting that to the very very very rusty fenders rockers doors and quarter panels. I thought to myself there’s gotta be something about using oil to rust proof a car. Glad I’m getting some affirmation that I was thinking right.
I have been doing this for about 20 years. A old timer I used to hang out with as a teen showed me how to oil a car. I live in Pennsylvania and I've never had a rust issue. So glad to see this video to show others how it's done.
Same here - old timer I worked with showed me this trick 😊
I should have mentioned in the video that I just started treating the frame rails on this Kia w/in the last couple of years thus the rust flakes inside. If started when new it would be fine inside . A box frame on a another vehicle opened my eyes to how bad an enclosed frame section can get if not taken care of.
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Nice to see this video. I used oil for years and years. I also sprayed other cars with oil and made extra money. I even went to a garage a couple of blocks away and got their oil. That was back in the good old days. Now that everything is going green, I can't get oil anymore. I did thin my oil down. I used an old paint gun so the oil would spray a mist to get into the cracks. After 15 years of doing this, I had zero rust on my car or no issues with damaged rubber When all sprayed, I would drive down a dusty road to get the oil to stick better. Thanks for sharing.🍁👍👍
Thanks for the comment and support. I've heard of the dusty road thing from some other folks - that's a good idea. My parents used to live on dirt roads that were oiled to control dust. Their cars got the oil and dust treatment all at once :)
What did you use to thin the oil
@@randypond7499 Hey Randy. I didn't thin the oil. I used an automotive paint spray gun and used 40 P.S.I. Plus I opened up the nozzle as far as I could. It worked great.
Did you spray over the rubber parts or did you avoid them and use something like Silicone lubricant there? Or did the bushings, seals, boots, etc not get damaged even when oil was applied to them?
Just came across your videos about six weeks ago or so. I have a 97 F-150 on a quiet night and I have my windows open in my house I can hear it rusting.. your videos have been of great help to me. But this video makes me believe that we think alike keep up the great work thank you.
You can stop rust my friend - I know exactly how you feel - but you do have weapons. See this video too - th-cam.com/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/w-d-xo.html or this - th-cam.com/video/y05dNxt-nVc/w-d-xo.html - Jerry
Just watched the video You recommended, and I get it. Having worked with a NASCAR crew back when it was the bush series, I don't need my truck to look perfect. A race car Fix is good enough for my truck. Every time I check out one of your videos I learn a little something.
I'm delighted I came across this video. To apply the oil mixture, I purchased a compressed air sure shot sprayer. I used the Rust Reformer spray before, but it was difficult to reach all portions of the car. The oil can infiltrate into previously unreachable areas using this method. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.
You're welcome Naghi - I'm going to look into the sure shot sprayer - thanks for the information and input. If you get a new car try this - th-cam.com/video/y05dNxt-nVc/w-d-xo.html
Great video! I did nearly the same thing, except I melted several wax toilet bowl rings and mixed that with used motor oil....I have a 1994 GMC pickup with no rust after 27 years in Ohio salt!
Ah the rust belt. I've heard of the toilet bowl ring thing. Nice job keeping that GMC rust free - it's work but it's worth it in the long run.
What about parrafin wax? Would that work?
For a long time i have used a cosmoline type of anti-rust (tectyl) coating mixed with a bit of oil to spray inside the frame rails, wheel wells and parts that are open, lately my wife was getting rid of some candles and I decided to blend candle wax and old oil into a home made cosmoline over a fire out in the yard. Seems like it will work just fine (has a scented aroma though). Great vid on putting oil into the rockers and what not. Here in WNY our average snow is 92 inches and a lot of salt is used. Your system works great. Mike
Thanks for your input Mike - that's some good thinkin'. That's a lot of snow and salt but better than being too hot :)
1/8th inch hole and Phillips screw, good tip!
I like to use transmission fluid. It gets into the seams of the body pannels where water creeps into and covers everything. I leave a small pool of it in the bottom of the doors and it keeps itself fresh. You cant really put in too much because it will come out the drain holes. I'm in the rust belt with a 97 chevy pickup and I still have my rocker pannels and cab corners as well as solid door bottoms and fenders. Anywhere water can go this should go first.
Thanks so much for the comment and support. It really does work and doesn't really take that much work. It does the work for you by creeping around and eventually coating everything around it - have a good weekend :)
They coat newly ground metal with transmission fluid to prevent rust. I bet it works great on car bodies and panels.
ATF does work great!! Good old Dex/Merc!! When I change the Hydro tranny fluid Super UDT in my Kubota Tractor, I rustproof all my vehicles with wonderful results. ATF, Hydraulic oil , motor oil , Bar & Chain oil all work fabulous
@@thomasbartlett6771 Which one works best? Do you add mineral oil to each when using?
@@tommak6516 Any thin oil like ATF for interior enclosed box sections such as rocker panels. Exterior frame and suspension get "Black MaX" Bar and chain oil from Walmart at $10.00 a gallon. Heat the Chain oil in an electric Presto crock pot and spray it with a Schutz or Paint gun at 60psi - 80 psi.
I am learning so much with these. I don't know when the price of used cars will go down. I want to take care of the two we have. Great video!
Thanks for watching Pat - have a good weekend :)
Great video I started to do this from last year and I will keep doing this evrey year on a long run it's well worth it very informative video thank you Jerry stay safe
Thanks - you stay safe too and thanks for the support on the topic - it does work along with many other products that folks have mentioned in the comments. Jerry
You give keep the greasy side down a whole new meaning!...... I love it lol
I had to look up that expression "keep the greasy side down." :)
Superb info & technique! Thank you very much for sharing it with us!
You're welcome :)
@@LakesideAutobody how long does a 50/50 mix of motor oil and mineral spirits need to dry before you can drive it in the rain? i just did my truck and don't want it to just get washed off. thanks in advance.
Greetings from northern Vermont!! Been Oil Rustproofing my vehicles since the 1990's using Bar & Chain oil. Have a nice 1997 GMC K1500 Suburban with a rust free frame and undercarriage. Best time to spray is SPRING so the heat of the summer wicks the oil into all the nooks and crannies. Motor oil , Atf, Bar oil etc all work great. TIP, for exterior surfaces, I heat the bar oil in an electric crock pot with some wax and spray it on with a Schutz Undercoat gun @ 40 - 80 psi. All the inner box sections get straight oil or ATF.. Great Video and thanks for posting
Wow Thomas- great information. Those are some great ideas, This as you know really does work well. Kept a Kia Sportage rust free for 20 years then sold it with 0 rust :)
the heavier the oil, the longer it takes to wash off, which it eventually will.
🤜🤛 I use a similar strategy in northern Indiana in the summer to increase creepage before the salt flies
Sweet, got an Econoline conversion with only surface rust. Definitely gonna do this!
If you stick with it, you'll have the same vehicle your whole life :)
You could get better coverage in he doors and frames if you used thin tubing to insert into the drilled holes this would allow the mixture to cover the whole of the internal areas. It clearly needs it given the rust you were disturbing when you hit the frame. Fully appreciate the logic of what your doing, think my suggestion might make it even better for you.
You're right, that would work well. I didn't start rust proofing the frame rails until a few years ago after I saw some box frames on vans and even ford trucks completely rot away. I have to catch up a bit. I didn't really worry about frame stuff until recently - now that cars are lasting 300 thousand miles, it's worth taking a look at.
My 07 Sport Trac in in the shop now getting a new powder coated frame. Going to give it a once over once I get it back.
I like the looks of those trucks/suvs :)
I' ve heard about this, but I'm surprised it didn't burn. Thanks
can use synthetic oil. it def wont burn
I prefer a mix of mineral spirits and boiled linseed oil myself. It cures to create a hard barrier.
will this work if you have a lil rust starting already? I have a lil paint rust starting.... maybe rub a lil with a oil wet Q tip? like to avoid sanding & fixing it that way
Wow! What another great video! Thanks for the tips, i will be doing thar to my ford ranger before winter , i live in massachusetts so we get the salt bad, and i just want to do what i can to keep it going as long as possible!
You'll feel better too driving through the salt water :)
@@LakesideAutobody definitely! 👍
"Nice and greasy.."
I think I'm ganna be quoting you the rest of my life with that one, love it! 😂👍
😁 - I should have T's that say that.
I found this video searching for uses for unused motor oil. Basically when I got a new car I still had unopened motor oil that is not recommended for my new car. I guess I could still use it on my car, but I suppose unused oil will have an even better affect on rusty parts?
I live in Holland,Michigan and use LPS 3 for years and it works great... doesn’t hurt rubber or plastic. LPS 3 is the best stuff IMHO
Thanks for the tips - I'm going to look that up right now ......................... just did and I like it :)
Good Video!! I’m in Northern Mn., I’d like to do this or something similar (Fluidfilm /Woolwax) to some areas on my 2009 Silverado. QUESTION: As a body man, How will these treatments effect the body panels for adhesion of body filler, fiberglass, primer and paint?? (Rust repair) Any tips? I was thinking you would have to heat the panel slightly before the work to “burn off” the rust proofing?? Would it cause “Fish Eyes” in the paint?? Thanks!!
Great question. To be completely honest, it has no effect at all. The oil sort of stiffens up a bit after time and y the rain and you washing the car gets rid of all of it on the exterior of the panel, Before you do any body work you always wipe the panel super clean with wax and grease remover which takes care of any last residue left. I've painted this Kia once from an accident and one overall paint job and have had no issues with fish eyes. See this video for the paint job after 15 or so years of oiling panels: th-cam.com/video/2H3UHCgQu2Q/w-d-xo.html
the drain holes, I saw a guy tape them and drive the car around a while then untape the and let them drain.
Glad to see videos like this, these older ways are being lost and over shadowed bye false info.
I use to mist my whole engine bay, and under side with wd40. And use WD on a rag to wipe down the weather stripping. Kept everything lasting a long time. Nice quiet cab with the weather stripping getting that love as well.
Now it seems all I hear is how petroleum products are bad for rubber and plastic. It's just not what I have experienced.
Great point FDS - thanks for the input :)
Will try it on my truck today great video
Thanks - here's some good proof of how well it works too: th-cam.com/video/y05dNxt-nVc/w-d-xo.html
I like this way better than those incredibly messy sticky blends some people make with grease, oil, etc, etc. The mineral spirit mix is a great idea. Would give you a nice thin coat rather than a greasy thick layer. You could experiment with a lot of things lindseed, transmission fluid, chainsaw oil, wax etc. Probably doesn't matter much which in the end. I'd use fresh though cuz of the extra poisons in used oil.
You right. As long as it creeps around into nooks and crannies, coats seams, etc - you'll be fine :)
good idea, I have some oil left for my last car I will not use anyway
Old Farmers have been spraying down their wood fences with used motor oil and diesel for generations.
Any benefit to using full synethic?
Thank you so much!
I have used a lot of different items over the years but used motor oil is as good as any. The key is to do it at least yearly. You should use thinner stuff in crimped areas, oil is good as it does wick. One thing I have been doing lately is to spray fine saw dust on flat areas after oiling to prevent dripping and kind of stabilize the oil. It really works well. Sift saw dust through a screen then use one of those hand held siphoned sand blasters(HF) tank on bottom type. If it clogs momentarily put you finger over the end and give a short burst on trigger. Play around with air pressure lower works better. Before I do anything I take a blow gun to everything to get loose rust off. Put vinyl tubing on your blow gun and push it into the boxed frame to get the rust chunks out. Be creative! Have fun.
Very creative with the saw dust idea. I've heard of guys spraying it heavily with the oil then driving it down a dusty road to get that film you get on the trans pan or an old valve cover. I like your thinking 👍🛠
would oil based undercoating still hold up in the winter months when the roads are full of salt and the truck gets washed once a week?
@@kyleramynke2710 dont wash it
Could you plug up all the holes and fill the frame with an eco friendly rust remover?
Let it sit for a while, drain by unplugging or drilling holes on the bottom of frame as suggested here. Once dried, spray this mix?
Anything your mind can come up with would be better than just letting the salt water attack the insides of a box frame or insides of panels :)
I've done this each fall on my 2004 and 2005 Le Sabres using WD-40 over the years. Pick-up trucks seem especially prone to rust at pinch welds. They need this process bad!
Thanks for you input Phil :)
Thanks brother so much, for sharing your technic for rust prevention with us, the views. my question is, are those 02 kia sportage reliable? I would like to know. Thanks.
We've owned it since new. I can't say enough about it! No creaks or rattles in the suspension. Never touched the engine except for plugs and changing the oil. It's loaded and every button still works and everything works as it should - AC,window, power mirrors,etc. Runs awesome - starts every time. Still the same alternator and starter w/ 150,000 on it. Great ride - good power - 16 valve 4 cyl bullet proof engine. Incredible car/suv. We do take good care of it though - Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody That's the issue. Ppl bring me autos with brakes gone, suspension broken for awhile, tires wore very bad. I try to kindly tell them a lil bit of care will go so far. Don't wait until it needs towed to have major issues fixed for ALOT more money when you can have it fixed and kept going nicely when they start to have a small issue.
Thanks for the clarification about the frame rails; those rust flakes didn't inspire confidence. Still I think I would only apply the used oil on the exposed surfaces and use Fluid Film anywhere you are spraying into holes for better coverage; if not fluid film maybe transmission fluid inside the doors and fenders. A tip from someone else's video - use painter's tape to cover door drain holes long enough for transmission fluid or fluid film to soak into the pinch welds (or until the next rain).
There are absolutely better products out there but at the time I started doing this, I was in the middle of "middle class living" so.... I was living very frugal - always looking for ways to save $ and get ahead :)
@@LakesideAutobody on SSDI myself thank you much for the idea
@@TheSleepingonit You're welcome :)
Great video! I treated my car with this today. I tried 50/50 mix with mineral spirits and engine oil, but found out it caught in fire when lit with a lighter. I ended up mixing 10/90 mineral spirits and engine oil. It still boiled but didn't catch fire. Any idea why it may be? Would you recommend conventional mineral oil or synthetic oil? I used mineral oil for this. Thanks! Ps. I'm thinking if acetone would better but I think it is more flammable than mineral spirits.
I just used mineral spirits and used motor oil - took a torch to it AFTER it was sprayed on something and it would not ignite. Maybe if you poured it in a bowl it would ignite because of the fumes but when sprayed on something, I don't think there is enough fumes or atomization. If you are worried about it just let it sit until the spirits evaporate and just the oil is left :)
Hi i mixed 50 oil and 50 diesel.. can i just spray the whole under carriage? Or do i have to avoid thr rubber bushings or rubber in general? Let me know tnx
I've never had a problem spraying the whole under carriage - I do wipe the oil off of anything I think might not "like" it. Back in the 1970's my parents lived on dirt roads that were oiled to keep the dust down - they never had problems with rubber parts and oil.
What could I put inside my truck doors to stop them from ever rotting out please comment bacomment back could I use this same method thank you for this video we'll be doing it
Here's how to do it: th-cam.com/video/y05dNxt-nVc/w-d-xo.html
Great video as always. I do this with my 2004 Toyota pickup truck. I live by the sea on the beach. No rust.
I use ATF with a bit of waste motor oil about atf/wmo 75/25.
Also I use a service gun with my compressor. It's faster and gets everywhere with the fine mist that then spreads.
I use a lot. As you said you can never use too much. The truck drips a few days...marking territory
Thanks for the comment and opinion on the topic - have a great weekend :)
isn´t diesel cheaper as a solvent?
If I used ATF would that work just as well or better? Would you have to thin ATF with mineral spirits like you do motor oil or is it thin enough as is. Why do you thin the motor oil with mineral spirits? Just to spray better? Or does it penetrate metal/rust better?
Yes - just to spray it. I've yet to come up with something really easy and effective for the bottom of a car. Canada has businesses that will spray the underside with a waxy oily substance once a year - it's called Rust Check or something like that. You can try ATF - I've heard folks having good results - I suppose anything greasy or oily that will creep into the nooks and crannies :)
Very helpful
Is the mineral spirits just to thin it out?
Car looks very good for an older Michigan car
Yes - just to thin it so you can spray it if you'd like. I use a spray gun but you can use old Windex type bottles.
i have a 1970 gto judge . i bought it in 1972 for years it had a small oil leak .year ago i looked for rust and it had a coat of oil no rust . so that does work! here in 2021 no rust!
It does work.... Happy Holidays :)
I'm jealous.
uh oh i picked up oderless mineral spirits...looks like milk, can i use it? theres also food grade mineral spirits which is cheaper can i use it instead?
Probably - what ever thins oil or cuts it you can use. Try it and let us know if you find something cheaper to use. Have a good weekend.
Lakeside, got a question have a 2000 s10 3rd door rear wheel drive rear upper wheel arch is bubbled and rusted I see they sale the rear upper arch panel online now do I lap weld the new panel and knock it down and use filler and sand it down and prime wheel arch are do I fine tune the new panel and just but weld it and grind the welds all the way down and use filler not using metal pieces to patch and fabricate the upper wheel arch wanna use the upper wheel arch template panel need your opinion???
Here's the truth. I've worked in 5 different body shops throughout my career and worked with a lot of different people. Not once have I ever seen a professional body man or woman butt weld a patch panel. On the edges and other rigid areas we butt weld because it's too difficult to tap the welds down. That being said, lap weld it with butts where necessary, grind it clean with 40 grit fiber resin disc, knock the welds down and any other high areas and fill it.
Here's some more info on the topic if you feel like checking it out: Strictly butt welding a patch panel, which has become popularized by the internet and TV, is not the best quality repair and there are many good reasons why professional body shops don't do it. Shops use a combination of both lap and butt (butt for spots that can’t be knocked down like edges) on almost every patch but would never just butt two pieces of metal up, weld it, then grind away at the area attempting to metal finish it. Here why with good reason - especially Eastwood’s starting 22 seconds in: th-cam.com/video/rpH50kh4W00/w-d-xo.html *
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Today’s metal is .030. That is literally 6 hairs (hair is .005) thick. You start grinding on that and the result is paper thin metal and welds. Lap and Butt methods can work well if done properly so in the end it’s what works for you.. Keep in mind, you won’t find anyone butt welding in professional shops. Surely you’re not going to butt weld and metal finish this: th-cam.com/video/36zkc9UQaTs/w-d-xo.html or some of my other rust repair videos. Use small overlap, weld solid and you won’t have to worry about moisture - especially if you keep the drain holes clean (most important thing in rust prevention). Note that the opening of the seam is upside down on the inside (no moisture trapped). Please see this video for longevity of this type of repair if done correctly: th-cam.com/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/w-d-xo.html or
th-cam.com/video/2o37dX--w0I/w-d-xo.html
Hope that helps you make a decision that works for you, Jerry
@@LakesideAutobody thank you LakeSide I'm north of you here in michigan your videos and advice really helps me out I'm no where near a professional just a person trying to get by with the body work and welding never painted a vehicle at all but with your help and videos I feel very confident to tackle the painting job next year thank you sir!
@@robertw5008 You're welcome. Stick with me, keep asking ?'s, and keep at it. You'll make mistakes as everyone does but you'll get better and better with time:)
Hey thanks for making this video, i have one concern though the oil as we know is really sticky and the dust and salt will stick on that layer and even do more damage?
You're welcome. Actually it's good for the dust to stick as it makes it a bit thicker like the wax coating they use.
@@LakesideAutobody i noticed i had the factory underseal scraped in a small patch i applied some burned diesel oil to that part but that part had still the prime paint on, do you know if the engine oil will damage that paint, again thanks
I've got a 2 gallon pressure pot and spray gun that makes quick work of this job.
Great idea - thanks for the tip.
I have 2 pressure pots that a someone gave me but don't know how to use them!
What's the purpose of the paint thinner. Thanks 👍🏾
You can use paint thinner or mineral spirits - it thins the oil a bit to spray it through a Windex bottle - Mix it until it sprays nicely :)
i use diesel and used motor oil 50/50 in a craftsman airsprayer. works great!
Good information Mike - thanks :)
I spray corroseal rust converter out of a shutz gun then use fluid film every year, works great
Thanks for your tips - enjoy the weekend :)
Should I use used motor oil or new, unused motor oil? What is the alternative material for mineral spirits? Can I use kerosene, for example?thank you
I sort of trust the mineral spirits because I sprayed some on a piece of metal and put the torch to it and it didn't ignite - not sure why but it did not start on fire. I'm thinking kerosene my catch fire easier - not sure though. I use used motor oil 'cause it's free but you can use anything really - like wd40, new motor oil, etc anything that will seep into the nooks and get thing greasy and prevent rust.
My GMCSerriawas 13 years old looked new sprayed every fall with new motor oil
New ?
Have you tried thinning the oil with diesel or kerosene to spray?
I haven't but I've heard that works well. This doesn't burst into flames for some reason when you spray it on metal then hit it with a torch. I wonder how it would do with the diesel or kerosene.
Can you use just any paint thinner or does it have to be mineral spirits
You can use paint thinner - they're sort of the same thing - paint thinner is a cheaper version I think :)
Is there something behind needing used motor oil? Other than cost but could you use new motor oil?
Sure - you can use new motor oil - I think it would work the exactly same. I just use it because it's free and I always have it around :)
Doesn’t used motor oil have acid in it from combustion byproducts? I’d think using new oil would be better for that reason?
Maybe - but not enough to cause harm I guess. This really does work well. Your goal is like an old greasy engine part or valve cover - they never rust.
One of those Hand Pump Home And Garden Pressure Sprayers Would Work Well too.......
Yep and they're everywhere.
Thanks, me too, do machines I own with just used oil once a year:)
Its ok mix Atf oil with convert rust for prevent rust?
Anything oily will work - I think even vegetable oil would work - what ever keeps it greasy like an old trans pan or valve cover :)
Can you explain why you used the mix 50/50 outside and the pure oil inside of the frame? Why not just using 50/50?
50/50 sprays well so if you want to get it on nice and even and cover a large area, you can spray it. The thicker oil can be used to squirt into panels and it "stays" longer, creeps around and eventually covers a large area like how your engine block or valve covers are greasy.
@@LakesideAutobody so the main purpose of mixing 50/50 is to make it thin, so we can spray it?
@@tamaica7770 Yes, that's it basically. You could brush the underneath of the car with some type of rust stop if you want. This is very common in Canada - they spray the underside of the cars with rust proofing liquid like wax/oil - not sure what it is :)
I have a note in one of my GM repair manuals that those rubber bushings love WD-40.
For real? It does actually say that? Thanks for the input :)
It's actually a Chiltons auto manual for my 2002 Sonoma. I sprayed the bushings with WD-40 a few days ago and I swear they plumped up. Weird, but what do I know 🙂@@LakesideAutobody
great info, I guess the mineral sprits is your diluent so you can spray it easily ? varsol or any solvent would work too you think ? what about wd 40 inside the tight spots like doors etc ? Thanks again for the info
Yes - works great - I used to use that but it costs money :) It's cleaner and works just fine - any type of liquid spray lube that penetrates will work great - even the inexpensive Walmart brand.
@@LakesideAutobody Sounds good - I got an 08 sierra, great truck, low mileage, playing catch up now , mechanical is great but I neglected the body, fixin some rust spots, welded in a wheel arch etc, undercarriage and body will get a good soak along the lines of this video. Your site has been a "go to" for everything I did so far - Thanks again!
@@kenwilliams7265 That's great to hear - If you have any questions at all, feel free to ask - I get to the comments 1-2 times a day :)
I’ve seen cars from the 60’s that were oiled and they looked almost new underneath. I don’t know why more people don’t oil their frames instead of expensive woolwax or chassis saver/por
You're right - it just works. If you're worried about the environment use used vegetable oil :)
My car still has the seam sealer from the factory i want to apply used motor oil but i am afraid if it will react somehow with the factory sealer. What do you think can i use it?
It will not effect the seam sealer. I've been using it on many different cars new and used for years and have never noticed any damage to rubber, seam sealer, paint, etc. If in doubt wipe some on some seam sealer and check it out. You'll be able to better decide after wiping it off and seeing no ill effects at all.
@@LakesideAutobody thanks for the reply, another question :) when i wash my car with pressure washer will it remove the oil base or water alone wont affect it too much?
@@shkelqimaliu4126 It will remove some from the underside of the vehicle but that's OK because you really only care about the oil seeping into the nooks and crannies as usually that where the rust is the worst. You'll want to make sure the brake lines, fuel lines, etc. are nice and greasy eventually. It will take a few years or applications to get a greasy layer. When you squirt oil inside the panels, it will creep to the outside of the vehicle like up the doors, etc. but the pressure washer will remove that or you can just wipe it off. Here's another video on this concept - th-cam.com/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/w-d-xo.html
Why mineral spirits? Is that used to thin the used motor oil?
It's cheap and it works well on oil and oil based paints. Paint thinner - not lacquer thinner work well too and it's even cheaper. If you can think of anything else that would work or be cheaper or free let me know :)
great but what happens when it rains and you got oil all over your windshield ? 😰
I've never had that happen - not sure how it could actually 😊
I noticed you work for an autobody shop, would an autobody shop do this for me? I don't have a car lift. Thanks
Probably not because of the environmental stuff - but if someone is concerned with that you can use vegetable oil. With this car, I didn't even use a lift just did the doors, rockers, trunk lid, hood, fenders, etc from ground level - th-cam.com/video/y05dNxt-nVc/w-d-xo.html
@@LakesideAutobody thanks!!
Good job man but will ignite with spark ?
No - believe it or not. I tested it on some sheet metal - could not get it to burn. I think the mineral spirits quickly evaporate or something. Good thinking David :)
Thank you Sub’d & Bell’d Very interesting and concise
You're welcome David - Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family 🍗🥧😊
Thanks Man .
You're welcome :)
Fluid Film is a great, environmental friendly rust repellent I use.
Thanks for the information - I bought some but it's real thick - how do you apply it or spray it? Can you heat it or thin it?
@@LakesideAutobody I had used an old sprayer to apply from a gallon can. It was a struggle, and not very efficient. But I got it done. I just started used the cans after that. Fluid Film sells a sprayer kit with a hose to reach hard to reach places. I’m going to try that next.
I just got the woolwax gun for spraying fluid film and it was worth the money. You can spray it fast and adjust the amount that comes out. It is not cheap but you pay for the quality.
@@LakesideAutobodyit needs to be stirred to loosen it up and increase viscosity. I like to do my jeeps In September while it’s still warm to give the fluid film time to creep. Putting the cans in hot water first helps. If you use the rattle can, get the 360 degree flexible spray nozzle for tight areas; use spray gun for exposed areas to save money
@@erichimes3062 OK - thanks for the tips :)
What’s the name of oil you mix to the used oil?
That's just plain old mineral spirits. No worries about being explosive as it flashes off or evaporates soon after you spray it.
Where can I purchase that oil can?
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Alot of rust still for something that's oiled ... u ever try wool wax ?
No but thanks - I'll look into it.
You're in michigan man? Where abouts? I'm in a lil town called pentwater next to lake Michigan. Right on the bump under the pinky
I'm in St. Helen. How's Pentwater - nice area ?
@@LakesideAutobody yeah it's not bad. Kinda a tourist town so we get a lot of crazies in the summer lol. But there's a bit of everything. Got the lake n gorgeous beaches, tons of inland lakes for fishing, tons of woods n 2 tracks, n if sand is your thing silver lake sand dunes is like 20 minutes away
@@benmiller5015 Sounds a bit like St. Helen. Lots of side by sides and stuff on the weekends but overall pretty peaceful :)
When I was a kid getting your car oil sprayed before winter was a normal thing. If I remember they would add wax with used motor oil and spray it hot. You couldn’t park in the driveway for a week cuz it was dripping oil. I kinda thought they’d did away with that.
Thanks for the comment - I have had a few Canadians comment n having it done in the past too. Not sure if it's still legal to do it commercially now :)
@@LakesideAutobody Krown Rustproofing does it in Canada with their proprietary formula. They recommend annual touch ups. I think there is one franchise in MI, that I’m aware of, up in the Thumb.
@@bondpit8750 I've heard of this being done in Canada - heck, they should use used cooking oil from restaurants if they want it to be environmentally friendly.
@@LakesideAutobody Environmental concern has always stopped me from using petroleum products for body rust prevention. The concern for insect issues is what's always stopped from using food-based oils. Rust and I have always been a pair. I wish I could come up with something that I felt good about.
@@ProleDaddy What about the wax based rust prevention products like Fluid Film? I've never used it myself but have hear great things about it.
How is mineral spirits free, I get used motor oil and the used Windex bottle being free?
Why would you ask that? What do you gain?
Can use the vegetable oil instead of motor oil?
Absolutely - environmentally safe too :)
Will used full synthetic oil do the trick?
Any oil will work fine - even used vegetable oil if you are an environment kind of person 👍
Great idea. I use straight used motor oil and spray it out of an old siphon feed paint gun @ 40psi. It gets a little messy, but works good. I'll have to try the 50-50 mix.
The Windex bottle is handy - any time I do the brakes etc. I give stuff a few shots. Good idea with the straight right out of an old spray gun:)
If this was done to all them 70's mopars we owned. In the fender wells in the trunk.
Those early 70's Mopar designers were on the job. Those were the meanest looking cars ever built. Newports, Furys, Chargers, Cudas, Challengers, Snow Commanders - everything had a tough looking grill/headlight design.
You did not explain why need mix oil with mineral spirit??
Sorry - it's to get the stuff to spray through the old Windex bottle or whatever you have. It won't ignite either as the spirits quickly evaporate.
You should try bar and chain oil, thick and clingy.
Good idea - you could brush it on the frame and underbody one time and done :)
@@LakesideAutobody wouldnt flow well inside the panels tho.
Will semi synthetic oil do ?
Yes
It the motor oil safe for rubber and plastic.
I've never had a problem with it. After I spray the underside of the vehicle I wipe the rubber parts clean. Oil gets on rubber hoses and plastic in the engine compartment and there's never an issue so that may answer the question too :)
I think diferentil oil (90) is better, much more sticky and anti corrosive
That stuff stinks!
Wouldnt paint thinner be bad for your vehicles body paint ?
It's actually a cheaper form of mineral spirts. There's paint thinner (cheap mineral spirits) and then there is lacquer thinner. Lacquer thinner is the one that's hard on OEM paint :)
@@LakesideAutobody thank you was thinking that after i oiled my truck with this method lastnight. Works great btw thank you.
@@entrepreneurdaltonmiles1539 You're welcome my friend - have a good week :)
Hello, Can just use straight oil?
Yes - I used to use WD40 easy to squirt - etc. It costs $ though so I went to used motor oil.
@@LakesideAutobody yep. I always save a gallon of used motor oil. Lost of uses. My F150 frame has no rust.
Why did you use mineral oil with the used oil
Just to thin it so the windex bottle would spray it. You can use a paint gun or something similar and not have to thin it. I just like the convenience of having the bottle handy if I need a quick squirt. Works well on rusty bolts too instead of expensive wd40 :)
If I don't have used oil can I use new oil? Thank you
Absolutely - is this John Sutter from Michigan? Up North, Michigan?
@@LakesideAutobody No New Jersey
@@johnsutter1497 Oh - I know a John Sutter from around here where I live - upper Michigan. Nice to know you too :)
Use Fluid Film, works very well.
Thanks - I'll check it out :)
That’s what I use too
can I use new motor oil instead of Used Motor Oil ?
why not just cost more
Yes
Can you use gearbox oil?
I imagine so... anything to protect the metal - like an old engine block - it never rusts :)
@@LakesideAutobody Thanks for that. Was just looking at my used gearbox oil today and it is much thicker than used engine oil. I'm not sure a 50/50 mix would be sprayable. I don't have any used engine oil, if I bought cheap new engine oil would it be as protective as used oil?
I was expecting you to light a match ha ha.
You know what's crazy - I tested that. I sprayed a scrap panel and took the torch to it. It did not light or start on fire - thought the same as you but - it doesn't ignite.
Does it have to be used oil?
Not really. Anything that will stay greasy, oil, vegetable oil, trans fluid, etc.
I know this sounds crazy but you can wire wheel the entire underside of the vehicle and you can get some special zinc solution which is going to plate the steel in contact!
You can certainly wire wheel the underside. I'm not certain as to what the best coating would be though. Undercoating, paint, etc. seems to always peel, chip, trap moisture between the paint layer and metal, etc.
dont forget to run car thru car wash with under carriage wash a number of times at end of winter to get that salt off
Absolutely - even during the winter would help.
But avoid high pressure/soap until spring to prevent forcing briny water into hidden areas and to avoid removing oil undercoating. I use a garden hose when it’s above freezing. Seems to work for me