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The officer has no right to arrest guy he is do his first amendment right to film and take pictures in a public sidewalk officers can't not arrest someone for taking pictures on a public sidewalk the guy with the camera has every right to film and take pictures
@Most cops are nazis Based solely on your name, I invoke Godwin's Law (reductio ad Hitlerum). The debate is over and you lose. Gosh, that was quick and easy. Almost like child's play.
@Most cops are nazis Are you a Neanderthal? You sure look like one. Are you suggesting that most cops are members of a now defunct German political party called National Socialists? What evidence of this do you have?
To be fair, that supervisor is probably one of the best. He probably shovels shit for a living, and many people hate him for being a cop, when he is most likely one of the intelligent and caring officers we all keep demanding to be policed by.
Most probably that only happened because he had see the auditor's video/s and immediately knew what was going on. That is the big difference between him and those other two officers. This demonstrates how incomplete and inadequately officially "properly" trained officers
Nah, he's been on patrol for quite a while, he knows laws and codes and he knew the dude and about his videos. He handled it just fine and with a lesson to the rookie for good. Of course that rookie is screwed as far as promotions go. Cities don't forget when someone costs them money lol
Mr. Supervisor should have trained his officers a little better BEFORE being placed into such a situation in the wild. It would have saved the city a lot of money. The supervisor is as much at fault here as the officer/perpetrator.
Sbamabelle Literally everyone in the united states knows that it is legal to film in public with no exceptions. Why should anyone care if some brain damaged cop doesnt know what even 5 months old know?
supervisor: "he has every right to do that" officer: "ok yeah that's fine, butbubut I don't..." supervisor: "un-cuff him" (walks away from blathering fool that just got them sued)
Seems like a pretty easy scenario to me, guy taking photos on the sidewalk, leave him alone!!! I guess it's not that easy with some of the candidates they choose to be cops. Takes longer to get a cosmetology license than a cop license! Haha
@@JayRSwan My god you're being pedantic. Yes, it does. $25,000 is what many people make in an entire year. $16,120 is gross pay for Federal Minimum Wage.
I love the “I’m not deaf, I’m just ignoring you” attitude of the auditor in the beginning of the encounter. I’m sure that pissed off the officer even more than the actual filming.
brady byrum Makes me want to go in front of my local police department and start taking pictures. I’ll probably have better odds duplicating this interaction vs winning the lottery 😂
@@zachdillenger5468 thats what im saying. Like fuck. It's easy to earn money in the us. Cause of racist cop/citizens or ignorant cops. 😂 You just do something weird but not illegal then provoke the cops then hand cuff you then instant money.
@@Berniebud That's the dumbest thing I read this month. So you must be obliged to allow every stranger that "hey hey"s you to interrupt your activity and have a conversation you don't want to have? Your rights end where mine start and you are not automatically entitled to my time regardless of your profession. Additionally, in an encounter with a cop, they are trying to gather any evidence of any violation of any law. Anything you say can and will be used against you. The 5th amendment is mainly there to protect the innocent, not the guilty. Why should or would you want to help the police in their investigation against yourself by possibly making incriminating or suspicious statements? Outside of select situations where there is officer discretion (traffic stops), the only thing you can gain from talking to the police is jail time.
in some videos the police says its some trained "sign" thing they have that silent or uncooperatetive people are hiding something. Many of these cops that act worse are either rookies, or old angry assholes who have been used to that they are law and no complaints in past have surfaced so they use the power and think that 90s brutality is still ok.
The information that you as a citizen offer law enforcement has so many unspoken implications, even when it's something as innocent as you telling them where you're coming from (perhaps a crime had just taken place there soon after you left), that there really IS no incentive to answer any of their questions beyond the ones you're legally required to. I tell them with every interaction: "Why would I knowingly engage with folks who the supreme court has ruled can lie to me, and who'll openly admit anything I say can and will be used against me in a court of law? Feel free to investigate and earn that paycheck, but I've done nothing illegal so you won't find anything on me, and in the meantime I'll be here using my right to remain silent."
From the cop's viewpoint, it was a little creepy when that man starts taking pictures of the police parking lot. So yeah I'd say he was waiting for the cops to confront him so he'd have a case. Not every day people are fascinated by a bunch of cop cars in a parking lot. Most people would be getting the hell out of there.
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@randy s lowkey when an officer who doesnt know the law and makes any illegal arrests, its basically free dollar for the guy lmao its not the officer's faults, its whoever trained him
Anonymous: not quite the same. Yes, taxes pay the police's salary and pension. Said police still gets his salary and pension while more tax dollars pay for the lawsuit settlement. $41,000 more in this case.
Rosendo Gerrero oh hell to yeah, I agree, this cop was paid while completing a police academy and in most cases is additional to a personally obtained college degree in criminal justice. In other words, he should’ve known better because he was educated in the matter well before that moment. So why should tax payer have to pay for this? The officers having to pay would serve as further motivation for officers to stay educated and make only legally necessary contact with the community they serve.
It's funny to me how when citizens aren't exactly privy to the law, the judge will say ignorance of the law is no excuse, but many cops do not actually know the law like they should.
dreadhead703 of course not. If they knew the law they wouldn’t have an excuse to act the way they do. As a cop, the more ignorant you are, the better. Plausible deniability.
@@theresahall8206 they use the excuse that preventing an emergency or tending to an emergency overrides the need to follow all laws. Which is a double edge sword, evident in this case.
@@brockrock8898 . We are...Look at it when you discharge your weapon...Blue Lives always matter more than a law-abidding citizen. Remember when you put on that badge, you are a SUPER PERSON with a halo, so you do not have any malice in your system. thats why at max. a cop is guilty of manslaughter...then less than that if they said feared for my life....Citizens have to prove it. Not implied...
David T In all fairness, if you were a police officer wouldn’t you want to know why someone was talking photos of the place where you work? I work in an office, but if some one takes a photo (It’s quite a nice building) of it I’m not bothered, as it doesn’t affect me, but don’t you think a police officer would? Especially when every day they deal with people who would wish them to be dead? I’d say it’s less the officers knowing the law and more the law needing updating
@@nahcuh9140 Ok so what about the infinite number of people they arrest on a daily basis that they shouldnt have had they known the law? Lets just give them limitless freedom to cage people for whatever imaginary law they make up right?
Oliver Colenutt i agree there’s no reason he needs to take pictures but it’s our right and the police can do nothing about so it doesn’t matter if they want to know or not
PatientMental you can’t arrest an infinite amount of people considering there’s only a certain amount of people on the planet. Next time you want to exaggerate to cover up the fact that you didn’t do any research at least guess a number so you don’t look like an idiot
Brendan Geeding i think the real reason the cop cuffed him is because no one likes being ignored it’s extremely rude but unfortunately legal lol. A guy taking pictures of a police station though legal is extremely suspect tbh but again... legal 🤷🏾♂️ what can ya do but wait for the bullets to start shattering the stations windows I guess
That was such clear bait. Yet they bit it with out even verbally trying detain the dude. Asking questions doesn't mean you are detaining someone and just because they walk away doesn't mean they broke a law.
It seems so frequent that supervisors are MUCH more levelheaded than their deputies. This serves as evidence that training is inadequate and definitely no substitute for experience.
@@oceanwaves83 I think many supervisors just get used to real bs so when it's just some idiot with a camera they know it's not worth their time to even bother to have ego battles because they know it will hurt their down the line. Something newer idiots wouldn't understand.
@@davidwile1277 unfortunately in some cases you would be correct. I have seen it where I work, were an officer/officers/Lt, could not articulate a specific crime/violation of the law and still tried to justify an illegal stop. The sad part was the Chief was on board with the stop and even demoted a Sgt. because the Sgt refused to go along with the illegal stop/detention. I wish I could disclose the details and have Audit the Audit do a video of the incident, but I worry it could cost me my job. There is body cam footage to.
…and kudos for the supervisor to actually be aware of the group and their activities. Too bad his knowledge wasn't conveyed to the rest of the force so this illegal detainment wouldn't happen.
i've seen a guy proposing that they should pay their own insurance and hence would have bigger or smaller ones for their actions. if no insurance want to pay for you (or ask too much) then you can't be a cop, good cops would get bonnus like your car insurance. and i think it's one pretty good solution, i wish my country did that
no, you deserve for the money to being taken from your taxes. you allow people like this to exploit the system, taking pictures of a police station is suspicious no matter what rights you have. he may do a jihad on it the next day, who knows? are you aware of that? its good that the money comes from your taxes, you let criminals like this skinny guy exploit the system.
since the supervisor that broke up this illegal activity by the first officer knew the law, i hope he had passed it on to officers under him, and if he has passed the info to the offending officer, that officer needs to be FIRED NOW!
@Jeff B Cops are taught on the down low to lie as much as they feel is needed to get to their objectives. With no remorse whatsoever. Hell even praised as the best interviewing officers.
They have to read them their rights but it would make their job easier if you gave them information. So cops don't tell you to be quiet they are saying you could if you want to.
@@ksfallenangel5770 he knew it was being filmed by both parties and would be used as evidence. He wanted them all to say as little about it as possible in front of the cameras.
I love how the supervisor was like "he's here to see how we react to the situation". He knows these videos are happening, now he needs to make sure his officers follow the book to a T.
agreed, but unfortunately if you request a supervisor you're not likely to get a captain(usually better informed) but a field sergeant. Often times the sergeants are just as ignorant as their subordinates.
Also in this case he was fortunate enough that the supervisor recognized him and that made things easy,if it was anybody else I don't think it would have been that smooth.
"So I was illegally detained?" "Yes sir, you were" "In which case, please arrest that man for kidnapping me" Could you imagine if that supervisor had done that? The other officer committed a crime and should be arrested for it. That way he can be fined an amount equal to what the lawsuit cost the taxpayer.
Amen. Also, due to the way the state classifies "kidnapping" (btw, kidnapping would be ANY circumstance where you physically moved someone against their will by 3ft or more or restrained them against their will by force) the officer would be labeled a sex offender for the rest of his life. Kidnapping goes down as Human-Trafficking, which is a sex-crime.
I believe the actual grabbing of the arm and spinning him around to face the officer was the big money grabber and not the illegal detainment. The grab could be grounds for an arrest on simple assault charges.
Sinbadd The Pirate , these jackboots are in the academy for 6 months. Lawyers go to school for years. They know very little about law, just motor vehicle codes and statutes. They are policy enforcing henchman who seek out problems and pray on the human nature to make mistakes.
@@Thorndog right because being trapped is so damn painful hahaha.....Jesus its just too much money they give away but we already know that right ? I mean there was a time where you could jump off a building claiming you drunk Red Bull and suing them because you couldn't fly.... America just failed to handle such situations with a reasonable amount of money.
@@JohnTheRevelat0r this is about catching, punishing and educating the unlawful ones, though i think this guy in the video is taking it a bit too serious or in it for the money the fact is the officer was ignorant in the scenario and made the guy $41k richer off tax payer funds.
YES YES YES a thousand times *YES* Who couldn't look up to this *A+* auditor?!? ATA has a lot of good stuff but wow was this quick, concise and satisfying! ✌️
Yes but it would have been better if he had educated his team or whatever they call them on the Constitution those Bozos are sworn to defend. How do you defend something you aren't smart enough to understand?
@@1974djin I manage 20 staff and it's hard to remember to keep them informed of every rule and policy out there and a lot of times cops know the law but their ego gets in the way so when he didn't respond and obey like almost everyone else the cops ego said I'm in charge and you'll bow down or I'll detain you.
He realized that every second longer the man was in cuffs was one more second used against them in the coming lawsuit. This was $41,000... If the supervisor had stalled for a minute... tried to ask questions... or done anything else this would have been so much more costly.
His food was getting cold. More over it wasn’t anything earth shattering a few words into the explanation, he knew who was in the wrong. I’m sure mop ore professionalism could have been exercised but it seems he’s dealt with.the same thing once too many times,
This douchbag cop has the training and intelligence of a bag of hammers. Good on you sir --(the Sargeant) for showing what a real professional is! We need more like you. Much more!!!
@@Jambuc829 he's such a creep, right? It's so creepy taking pictures of buildings and signs, isn't it? I'd agree with you if he'd been taking pictures of other people but he wasn't so how does it make him creepy?
100% And if they get start doing this a lot of these incidences and crimes that are being done by these crooked cops with barely happened anymore but nothing happens to them they never get fired they barely get suspended in their pockets never get hit
You figured it out, huh? Yeah I changed my major to Music Theory and Composition in college but I was minoring in Criminal Justice and majoring in Psychology. See, here's the fun part. Police officers pay Police-Union-dues. The Police Union pays for Union insurance. Union Insurance covers civil settlements for violations of Constitutional Rights and a civil rights lawsuit has to have merit to even go forward. Most dismissed charges and overturned convictions have little if any retroactive effect on Qualified Immunity but if they go forward, yes, officers are shielded from personal liability by paying into those insurance polices via the dues they pay to those mean ol' Police Unions. For some cops, they consider their union dues to be the key to the backdoor of some assholes' Constitutional Rights. Say, "I don't consent to speak to you, officer and I'm going to break contact now. Have a nice day." to the wrong officer on the wrong day and, to paraphrase a Sovereign Citizens' term, that officer may choose to manufacture joinder between you and the corporation known as the city/county/state in which you find yourself engaged with that officer. "Oh, gentle citizen, I'm afraid I must impose on just the briefest moment of your time, because I've decided you're going to give me your fucking undivided attention whether your uppity ass wants to or not, so shove your consent up your ass. If you get a few thousand bucks for your inconvenience later, MEH (shrugs)." Maybe try having a happy happy joy joy attitude and swallow your pride, oh, won't you?
@@Fantasy_____________________ Fair point... I look at it like a dr. Has malpractice insurance and pay huge premiums for it too. And does this mean that they are now afraid to do their job? If so then we are all screwed.
Why should the taxpayer foot the bill for tyrant's that don't know the law. I agree how can we hold them accountable for their actions ? This is the first step require cops to pay for their own insurance.
@@alphabeta591 This should be the primary focus for all auditor's. Doctor's have to carry medical malpractice insurance in case they hurt someone. Police should have the same so they are held accountable personally instead of hiding behind the thin blue line.
Insecurity is inevitable as a police officer. The few who are reasonable and secure, are true alphas who actually do their job, the majority are retaliatory henchmen
Theres no reason why the supervisor shouldnt get the A+ here. He did everything right, no drama. He got the basic rundown, immediately ordered that the auditor be uncuffed, listened to the auditor and literally invited him in to make a complaint about the matter. It was perfect on the supervisors behalf.
yeah, except as supervisor this is something that he should have discussed at length with his subordinates. He obviously knew all about the guy himself, so he should have guessed that this sort of thing would eventually come up. He didn't, hence the A
The is nothing that requires a cop to behave stupidly. But if the taxpayers don't want to keep paying for the stupid actions of some cops they need to overwhelm the mayor with complaints and demands that the police chief weed out the Neanderthals.
After watching many of these videos I'm starting to realize that there is financial gain to be had doing these videos if you can deal with the discomfort of being detained and possible arrested. I've seen a lot of settlements, all justifiable.
@@greglapointe1311 it is not about the money it's about exposing officer misconduct and making sure they know not to do it to anyone one else regardless of them fully¹ understanding the law of not. *¹ fully: knowing or completly (in this case) know what laws protect you or the officer in question. Doing this for money is sad. These settlements are a result of police departments not charging their respective policy's for the people but rather against the people who theg swore to serve.
@@CallMeP1ink Hate to be the one who says it but yes it is about the money. Auditors largely do this for money, be it lawsuits (not super common anymore but were once very common) or simply viewers/subs/donations on their videos. They make a good chunk of money if their channel takes off, their channels take off when situations like this happen.
Yep, he already knew it was an auditor, knew Romero had already well failed with flying colors, and knew there absolutely was a law suit coming on the back end of it that they'd have no choice but to settle on. He didn't need to hear another syllable out of the officers mouth to know he was the biggest idiot involved of everyone present.
Should have got fired. Why do cities hire such uneducated personnel. It's nation wide.7 out of 10 cops gave no idea what the laws are nor what the constitution is.
The good thing about this is the police department got sued. The bad part is , we taxpayers are the ones paying these lawsuits. We need to turn this law around, make the police officers involved pay the lawsuits out of his own pocket.
It’s actually a valid point you make, in the future however in order for us to get the officers to pay out of their own pocket, they just have to be sued in their private capacity instead of the Police force. This would certainly get their attention on a more personal note, however, if that were to happen, there would probably been no policy change and education as it is now. I ‘m not sure if you could sue the department and the individual at the same time or not but that’s something we might want to look in to.
The police dept, fire dept. Etc.. they all get a budget each year. Certain amount of money to use each year for equipment, training, paying overtime, supplies etc. etc. They should take these law suit fees out of that departments annual budget. I know it's all still tax papyer money paying these budgets but atleast this way you are directly affecting that department. They don't want to loose budget money, in fact you do everything you can to burn thru that money and make it look as of you need more the next year in Hope's the city manager will give it to you. If these lawsuits come out of their budget they will start training their officers better to not loose any of that money.
@@allthingssilver7635 .... Your idea is ok, but making the involved police officers pay the lawsuits themselves out of their own pockets is the best answer. As long as we taxpayers are the ones paying the lawsuits, they ( those police officers ) really don't care.
When cop thinks he’s more than a civil servant goes wrong, but I do like the way the supervisor just walked away while the cop was talking to him, PRICELESS.
Nah, I"ve seen those sovereign citizen nutjobs. They don't often quote statutes. They start saying nonsense that has nothing to do with real laws and statutes. "RIght to travel". They'll tell you that the constitution doesn't matter or is invalid even. "A piece of paper doesn't give me my rights".
@@Logan_Baron It's not that those people are incorrect but rather they don't understand that those types of arguments are never, ever acknowledged by the lower courts for a variety of reasons so it's pointless to claim the "right to travel" unless you have the resources to appeal the case all the way and even then the higher courts can simply decide they don't want to hear the case. Also, I've seen tons of these videos where the auditor can recite the relevant statutes verbatim as did the guy in this video.
Anyone who believes in personal responsibility knows that officer Ramirez should have paid that $41K out of his own pocket. Taxpayers didn't break the law, the officer did.
There should be some kind of impact on him personally for sure. Maybe a 10% pay cut for a few months for each infraction like this. Make them think about it before abusing their position.
Metal Jack respectfully, there is a bigger picture. These officers work for their chief, who reports to the mayor and councilmembers, and just like the roadways and other infrastructure, those people are elected and accountable for the training of police officers. If police are not trained properly, it is the responsibility, even if not the direct fault, of those elected officials who designate where money goes. That $41,000 should have been spent on training. It wasn’t, and you have to hit these people in their pockets for not appropriating their budget correctly. When the city loses money, people are pissed off and the politicians either fix the problem or they don’t get re-elected. And just as importantly, we have to remember that poor training can result in a loss of life, and no amount of money can rectify that.
They hopefully had a conversation with him at some point about the interaction. It's pretty obvious the officer diddn't have enough training to be doing his job, just like many of the American cops we see in media. Regardless of what happened it's gotta be pretty embarrasing for him that everyone knows he cost the city $41,000 for being a bit of a dickhead
What he wants is the PD to recognize the Constitutional rights they've been ignoring and making them pay in court. In theory, he'd be happy if every area and department were compliant. They aren't so it makes his life interesting.
@J Merchan Nearly everything you said here is incorrect. The Officer instigated this illegal detainment and that amount of settlement is considered a nuisance. An auditor can never know how PD will react but present them with a legal dillemna to see how they react. Depending on how badly they react they SHOULD be sued for damages because their mistakes have real life consequences.
@J Merchan Damages in the case you describe would be lucrative. This one is not and is in line with settlements from multiple cases around the country. What do you think should be the resolution for cases like this?
@@razorbeard6970 they could just start asking for classes on stuff like this to be held at the department regularly as part of a settlement. The city would bite that faster than the officer in the video.
@@youtubeSuckssNow Not really. I don't think training is the issue as a number of departments already train on this exact issue due to the growing activity of 1st amendment auditing.
Obviously, having an I.Q. less than 50 is a mandatory requirement to be hired as a law enforcement officer. Unfortunately the city will foot the bill and not the officer.
@@TCthaCrisis Look up a channel called "Donut Operator" Plenty of film of police officers LEGALLY shooting unarmed PEOPLE (see how I used the word people?)
AirPlayRule AirPlayRule AirPlayRule to answer your second question; in the middle of the video, while mr O’Connell was detained, he states that he was live-streaming.
Oh so now he should pay out of his pocket, but you dip shits always say they're public servants and the tax payer pays their salary, so tell me dumb ass, whether he pays out of his pocket or not, it still will be tax payers money.
Punisher I assume your a cop, or a buff. Loss of qualified immunity can occur from an officer who deprived a citizen of their rights. They swore to uphold and protect those rights. They probably settled out of court for such a low amount, if he had pushed for a full trial the officer could have lost his home and his wife and kids would have left him. The officer should be thanking him.
Right? Why bust my ass 40 hours a week, 50 weeks a year to earn $40,000 if I can make that much money in a mere 15 minutes by simply photographing my local PD????
It’s becoming painfully obvious that most cops today have no clue how the constitution works or have a basic understanding of how the laws in this country work.
you pay low, you get the bottom of the barrel. hell, in a lot of places, you can be a cop without even going to any academy or actual law course. it's a high risk, but low paying job. no wonder most of what we get are thugs who abuse their power.
rakninja That’s a damn lie. What the hell places are these? No California or Georgia most certainly not Texas or Florida what the hell are you talking about.
@@Jambuc829 Washington state was definitely one. Hell I talked to a cop a few months ago about possibly getting hired, basically said all I need is a high school diploma and to pass academy, a three week long course. Which is an absolute joke. Met a bunch of ex-Seattle cops who said the pay was so bad it'd be smarter in the long run to go to college and find a better job.
@@rakninja It's not even that high risk. Policing is #16 for job danger according to the bureau of labor statistics, behind construction, pizza delivery, farming, running a garbage truck, etc. They just say it's high risk so people don't criticize them as much when they massively mess up.
It's only money if the piggies aren't playing by the rules...and they don't, cause tax payers cover the cost. I wish they were baited so much, they had no clue who was bait and who isn't. They would actually have to behave their neanderthalic asses, cause every second person would be bait.
It makes no sense that you can become a law enforcement officer without at least a basic understanding of the laws you are there to enforce. You wouldn't hire someone to be a pilot who didn't understand how to fly a plane.
Yes yes yes, BUT, the cop got away with it, the cop suffered no financial responsibility. $40 k is a joke, it will not dissuade any cop from similar conduct.$ 1000k might.
If he had shot and killed him, maybe termination. If you could have got the union to agree? But the fact he didn't shoot first, maybe something we can work with. I think a lot more training about the Constitution, photography, private and public property and he may be an ok cop.
@ maze me...... How about filing a case directly against the 'man' ?? Make him pay for his wrongful behaviour out of his own pocket.....you can bet that they'd learn REAL fast that way !
@@Jayen4 I totally agree, in some cases police lose their qualified immunity and ca. be sued personally, they normally don't end up paying much because judge knows they can't afford it
The supervisor was soooooo upset at romero. Even when he was being lectured about his officers illegal detainment, he just stared at the ground like "this is gonna hurt..."
OFFICER ROMERO NEEDS TO GO TO PRISON FOR LIFE! AFTER HE PAYS BACK THE $45,000 TO THE CITIZEN TAXPAYERS! HE CAN GET WORK RELEASE TO GO AROUND TO DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENTS TEACHING THIS INCIDENT AND CIVIL RIGHTS. ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE AFTER 5 YEARS, NEVER TO BE A COP AGAIN.
Yea he knew exactly what was going on, responded immediately with releasing him from cuffs, and told his officers why it was incorrect. Took all of 10 seconds to get it sorted out.
@@winterfell9990 the cops were able to do this. It's simple as a leader those under are in your command. Something as basic as culinary, if a salad goes out wrong, it starts with the chefs to properly train our subordinates. If they make a mistake I look bad, I am held to the standard of how effectively I lead it's simple. 1 person can not be everywhere buy it's his job to ensure those under are an extension of his leadership, knowledge and training. If this dude was just a hustler, the cops under him should have known this was a grift. Cops have know the law and they have to know the streets, how else would they survive. If the captain knew this individual or of similar gifts that cost the city money, his subordinates should have known..he gets a C. The team under him is lacking and that's unacceptable. If they are to have access to military level equipment and gear, these people need the highest training. I expect Navy seal level, my safety is on the line, we need to police who cant handle these situations without bias, just based on the laws. Why is our bar so low. I expect my doctors to also hopefully be the best on the planet as well.
I would think as a supervisor that knows about these kind of activities, would have educated his staff ahead of time, thus the A instead of A+ That's how I interpreted this.
This is the best training those cops ever got. Mr O'Connell getting $41k compensation is actually just him collecting his well earned salary from the police department. O'Connell should be given a medal from all citizens, he is literally spending his time making the country safer for everyone.
I love that he won $41,000. And I love hearing cops complain about this when they meet an auditor. “You just want a paycheck.“ I’m still waiting for an auditor to say “well, If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime” lol. Or any of the infantilizing comments that they use against society
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The officer has no right to arrest guy he is do his first amendment right to film and take pictures in a public sidewalk officers can't not arrest someone for taking pictures on a public sidewalk the guy with the camera has every right to film and take pictures
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@Most cops are nazis Based solely on your name, I invoke Godwin's Law (reductio ad Hitlerum). The debate is over and you lose. Gosh, that was quick and easy. Almost like child's play.
@@leoeli7612 The guy was never arrested, he was placed under investigatory detention albeit an illegal one, but he was never arrested.
@Most cops are nazis Are you a Neanderthal? You sure look like one. Are you suggesting that most cops are members of a now defunct German political party called National Socialists? What evidence of this do you have?
40k to be handcuffed for 20 minutes(26k to him and 14k to lawyer), where is my camera at...
But what if they beat you up too!
Nathan Cuellar get paid more because your putting in overtime.
For real
He had to go to court several times and file many documents. I would guess it took him about 10-30 hours in total, so it aint that simple.
@@campfireofdreams758 still worth 40k. Unless he had a lawyer but that would still be a lot of money.
i have never seen a supervisor know so quickly they were screwed. LOLOLOLOL
To be fair, that supervisor is probably one of the best. He probably shovels shit for a living, and many people hate him for being a cop, when he is most likely one of the intelligent and caring officers we all keep demanding to be policed by.
Most probably that only happened because he had see the auditor's video/s and immediately knew what was going on. That is the big difference between him and those other two officers. This demonstrates how incomplete and inadequately officially "properly" trained officers
Nah, he's been on patrol for quite a while, he knows laws and codes and he knew the dude and about his videos. He handled it just fine and with a lesson to the rookie for good. Of course that rookie is screwed as far as promotions go. Cities don't forget when someone costs them money lol
Mr. Supervisor should have trained his officers a little better BEFORE being placed into such a situation in the wild. It would have saved the city a lot of money. The supervisor is as much at fault here as the officer/perpetrator.
Sbamabelle Literally everyone in the united states knows that it is legal to film in public with no exceptions. Why should anyone care if some brain damaged cop doesnt know what even 5 months old know?
"I charge $26,000.00 per hour to educate cops on how not to do their job".
Make it 26.000 per min .
Mr.O'connell did say that the cop works for him after all
To be honest, I wouldn’t think legal fees would cost him that much. Unless taxes are included in those fees?
Got out and get a real jobs I thank you all are a Bunch of dipshit I see Videos like this all the time you all need to get real job Bunch idiots
@@TyrellCampbell sounds like you needed a better English class growing up, Tyyyyy-rell.
That supervisor was excellent. He was nobody's fool. He knew his job. It's sad that this is so rare.
Did you see that sigh? The commander instantly looked like, “uh, you just fucccd ALL the way up”.
Brooo. The way he keeps his phone! 😂
All the supervisors are educated like this guy it's rare to find a supervisor that's not like this guy
supervisor: "he has every right to do that"
officer: "ok yeah that's fine, butbubut I don't..."
supervisor: "un-cuff him" (walks away from blathering fool that just got them sued)
😂😂
A stealth STFU that did not pass under anyone's radar.
bunberrier hahahahaha
In the real world when you cost your employer $41K you get fired.
You don't understand how hard it is to be a police officer
@@josepena6763 hey its really hard to kill minorities and get paid for the rest of your life for it
Yep when you work for the government can you be a total screw up and keep your job. Awesome job security for them I guess.
Except Officer Romero didnt cost the police force 41k, he costed the public taxpayers of his city 41k.
Seems like a pretty easy scenario to me, guy taking photos on the sidewalk, leave him alone!!! I guess it's not that easy with some of the candidates they choose to be cops. Takes longer to get a cosmetology license than a cop license! Haha
U find 2 cops like this in a year and u can make a living out of it.
He only got 25k and still owes taxes on it.
@@JayRSwan so what to a guy like me that's a lot of fucking money, I could live 2 years with that amount easy fucking peasy
@@JayRSwan Not bad for a few hours work at most.
@@sfmc98 If you dont count his time with lawyers or in courts.
@@JayRSwan My god you're being pedantic. Yes, it does. $25,000 is what many people make in an entire year. $16,120 is gross pay for Federal Minimum Wage.
I love the “I’m not deaf, I’m just ignoring you” attitude of the auditor in the beginning of the encounter. I’m sure that pissed off the officer even more than the actual filming.
Ego battle initiated.
"I have no legal obligation to acknowledge your presence."
YOU BET. CONTEMPT OF COP!
Its his signiture money move, ez 40k in under 30 minutes🤑🤑🤑🤑
They hate it when they cant control you
My boy went fishin, and the cop immediately took a bite lol.
Fell for the damn trap. Easy money
Nice
HE FINESSED THEM EASY MODE KING MOVE
White privileged awhole
Muthafuckin fly fishing 🎣 he jumped in the boat lmao
$26,000 bucks for four minutes in handcuffs! That's a jackpot!
brady byrum Makes me want to go in front of my local police department and start taking pictures. I’ll probably have better odds duplicating this interaction vs winning the lottery 😂
@@AV-kc2ro my thoughts exactly LOL
actually he were in handcuffs over 20mins
@@jesuschrist2287 Shit I'll do three hours for 26K
@@zachdillenger5468 thats what im saying. Like fuck. It's easy to earn money in the us. Cause of racist cop/citizens or ignorant cops. 😂 You just do something weird but not illegal then provoke the cops then hand cuff you then instant money.
So this is the easiest way to pay off a years worth of student debt 🤣
🤔😁
lmaœ
YUP..
I can see police stations around the country being surrounded by photographers hoping to be assaulted.
All the taxes we pay this is a good way to get them back. Easy money 😂
Shout out to the captain for handling this situation professionally
So many police officers interpret citizens exercising their right to remain silent as an act of aggression, that needs to stop.
I mean what reason is there to remain silent here other than to be a dick? I understand "the law" but people ain't robots.
@@Berniebud That's the dumbest thing I read this month. So you must be obliged to allow every stranger that "hey hey"s you to interrupt your activity and have a conversation you don't want to have? Your rights end where mine start and you are not automatically entitled to my time regardless of your profession.
Additionally, in an encounter with a cop, they are trying to gather any evidence of any violation of any law. Anything you say can and will be used against you. The 5th amendment is mainly there to protect the innocent, not the guilty. Why should or would you want to help the police in their investigation against yourself by possibly making incriminating or suspicious statements? Outside of select situations where there is officer discretion (traffic stops), the only thing you can gain from talking to the police is jail time.
@@Berniebud you are a fking idiot
in some videos the police says its some trained "sign" thing they have that silent or uncooperatetive people are hiding something. Many of these cops that act worse are either rookies, or old angry assholes who have been used to that they are law and no complaints in past have surfaced so they use the power and think that 90s brutality is still ok.
The information that you as a citizen offer law enforcement has so many unspoken implications, even when it's something as innocent as you telling them where you're coming from (perhaps a crime had just taken place there soon after you left), that there really IS no incentive to answer any of their questions beyond the ones you're legally required to.
I tell them with every interaction: "Why would I knowingly engage with folks who the supreme court has ruled can lie to me, and who'll openly admit anything I say can and will be used against me in a court of law? Feel free to investigate and earn that paycheck, but I've done nothing illegal so you won't find anything on me, and in the meantime I'll be here using my right to remain silent."
I have a feeling this guy knew exactly what he was doing and was just waiting for a cop to try and stop him. gotta give him credit.
Steve Mccart exactly. Make me wanna do the same on my off days lol
@@mustanggang5.0 me 2
DUUUUHH ..just waiting for an idiot cop NOT DO THEIR JOB correctly lol
Thats what the supervisor said. “He wants to see what we’re gonna do”.
From the cop's viewpoint, it was a little creepy when that man starts taking pictures of the police parking lot. So yeah I'd say he was waiting for the cops to confront him so he'd have a case. Not every day people are fascinated by a bunch of cop cars in a parking lot. Most people would be getting the hell out of there.
Title of the live stream: How to get your tax money back.
Pete Banger lol
with interest!!!!
😂
Pete Banger how to get the people’s tax money back into someone who provokes.
I live here in this shitty town.
YES!!! Way to go!!! THANK YOU for making a stand in the best way possible. Most of all, Thanks to the Auditor for achieving the goal without being antagonistic and therefore being taken more seriously. And a giant thanks to ATA. I've learned so much from this amazing channel. Keep up the fantastic work! 😊
Lmao this dude knew exactly what he was doing and that cop got baited right into it 😂😂
randy s Well if they did their jobs correctly they wouldn’t be baited. 🤷🏻♂️
randy s get yo weak old ass meme profile picture havin ass outta here
randy s then expert what the fuck is the job of police other than enforcing the law. And how the fuck do you enforce something you dont know then?
@randy s $41,000 says that you're wrong.
@randy s lowkey when an officer who doesnt know the law and makes any illegal arrests, its basically free dollar for the guy lmao its not the officer's faults, its whoever trained him
Money should be paid by the officer or his pension plan NOT THE TAX PAYERS!!!!
Rosendo Gerrero the tax payers pay the officer so same shit...
Anonymous: not quite the same. Yes, taxes pay the police's salary and pension. Said police still gets his salary and pension while more tax dollars pay for the lawsuit settlement. $41,000 more in this case.
Rosendo Gerrero oh hell to yeah, I agree, this cop was paid while completing a police academy and in most cases is additional to a personally obtained college degree in criminal justice. In other words, he should’ve known better because he was educated in the matter well before that moment.
So why should tax payer have to pay for this? The officers having to pay would serve as further motivation for officers to stay educated and make only legally necessary contact with the community they serve.
blunt guy the same tax money would go to the officers so that’s just taking money out of the police officers pocket
Boogie: how so if the officer still gets his salary and pension in tact? Lawsuits such as these make more burden on the taxpayers.
Went fishing, caught 41k.
Hahahahaha
He caught one of dem dumb bottom feeders.
No cappp they be scamming the police 😂😂
I would send officers fuckwit a box of chox every year for their care and assistance.
The 41k went into his pocket in 30 mins
This is my favorite audit. He was flawless!
It's funny to me how when citizens aren't exactly privy to the law, the judge will say ignorance of the law is no excuse, but many cops do not actually know the law like they should.
Yeah I never got how it okay for cops but not okay for the rest of us.
dreadhead703 of course not. If they knew the law they wouldn’t have an excuse to act the way they do. As a cop, the more ignorant you are, the better. Plausible deniability.
@@theresahall8206 they use the excuse that preventing an emergency or tending to an emergency overrides the need to follow all laws. Which is a double edge sword, evident in this case.
Seems Citizens are held to a higher standard
@@brockrock8898 . We are...Look at it when you discharge your weapon...Blue Lives always matter more than a law-abidding citizen. Remember when you put on that badge, you are a SUPER PERSON with a halo, so you do not have any malice in your system. thats why at max. a cop is guilty of manslaughter...then less than that if they said feared for my life....Citizens have to prove it. Not implied...
I don't understand how police officers are paid to enforce laws they don't themselves understand or know.
David T In all fairness, if you were a police officer wouldn’t you want to know why someone was talking photos of the place where you work? I work in an office, but if some one takes a photo (It’s quite a nice building) of it I’m not bothered, as it doesn’t affect me, but don’t you think a police officer would? Especially when every day they deal with people who would wish them to be dead? I’d say it’s less the officers knowing the law and more the law needing updating
@@nahcuh9140 Ok so what about the infinite number of people they arrest on a daily basis that they shouldnt have had they known the law? Lets just give them limitless freedom to cage people for whatever imaginary law they make up right?
Oliver Colenutt i agree there’s no reason he needs to take pictures but it’s our right and the police can do nothing about so it doesn’t matter if they want to know or not
PatientMental you can’t arrest an infinite amount of people considering there’s only a certain amount of people on the planet. Next time you want to exaggerate to cover up the fact that you didn’t do any research at least guess a number so you don’t look like an idiot
Brendan Geeding i think the real reason the cop cuffed him is because no one likes being ignored it’s extremely rude but unfortunately legal lol. A guy taking pictures of a police station though legal is extremely suspect tbh but again... legal 🤷🏾♂️ what can ya do but wait for the bullets to start shattering the stations windows I guess
What do you do for a living?
I live out of police ignorance.
Like the cops themselves always tell the public: "IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NOT AN EXCUSE!"
Yep and good ftp
That could be a dangerous occupation.
Now thats tuff lol
Shite, why not, the politicians, lawyers, police make their living off the ignorance of the people.
Awesome job! No bad mouthing and educated police officers on their interactions with public. Thanks for y’all’s professionalism.
PERFECT payday. Just like that. Nice
the supervisor came in like: "oh no... my bois fuqed up".
Ong🤣 he ain't even let the nigga finish talking
He knew what was happening once he saw dudes face 💀💀
That was such clear bait. Yet they bit it with out even verbally trying detain the dude. Asking questions doesn't mean you are detaining someone and just because they walk away doesn't mean they broke a law.
It seems so frequent that supervisors are MUCH more levelheaded than their deputies. This serves as evidence that training is inadequate and definitely no substitute for experience.
@@oceanwaves83 I think many supervisors just get used to real bs so when it's just some idiot with a camera they know it's not worth their time to even bother to have ego battles because they know it will hurt their down the line. Something newer idiots wouldn't understand.
I am a police officer in PA and I try and recommend your videos to as many officers I can.
Please don't do that. I need my side hustle to continue to be profitable
Good, that is the point of these videos. Regards.
I’m from Pennsylvania and I’m glad you are spreading the news thank you.👍
Won't matter...the cops with ego problems will take bait hook line and sinker
@@davidwile1277 unfortunately in some cases you would be correct. I have seen it where I work, were an officer/officers/Lt, could not articulate a specific crime/violation of the law and still tried to justify an illegal stop. The sad part was the Chief was on board with the stop and even demoted a Sgt. because the Sgt refused to go along with the illegal stop/detention. I wish I could disclose the details and have Audit the Audit do a video of the incident, but I worry it could cost me my job. There is body cam footage to.
Officer: so I detained him for taking pictures and-
Supervisor INTERNALLY SCREAMING; *FUUUUUUUCKKKKKK*
Can confirm 😂
IsaiahTheGaming King Are you the cop in the video??
You can see his face and body language. Says it all. Lol
And as soon as he admits that, you can see the supervisor look down to see if the officers body cam is recording or not
@@joes7617 Good catch. The supervisor does look down at that point. I missed that before.
That captain was very professional. Good officer. Props to the auditors doing good work.
This man intentionally did this to catch a bag Lmaooo. He’s big brain
Ambrose Delgado im not salty babes i applaud the guy, im just saying its what he looks like lol he smoked a big rock after he cashed out
· didn’t know auditor could sue. I thought they just talk to their supervisor and put the cop through training.
Lloyd Davis am not jelly but peanut butter
GlitchZz lmao 😂 “ I’m not jelly but peanut butter” well shoot! If fruit can’t see then why my Apple Watch?!
He ain't got the brain cells to pull this off again
I like how supervisor immediately knew this was gonna be expensive lesson.
…and kudos for the supervisor to actually be aware of the group and their activities. Too bad his knowledge wasn't conveyed to the rest of the force so this illegal detainment wouldn't happen.
That was their Captain not supervisor
If only the payment came out of the officers pay.
@@Moshua_Gerstein if thats happen , there is no single bad cops doin stupid things 😁
yeah you can hear in his voice the way he knows how badly they fucked up and what's coming for them
I wish settlements came out of the police union’s pockets instead of tax payers. They love covering up for bad cops so they should be responsible.
officers are insured. It comes from a bond, that is purchased with public funds. Like car insurance when you are liable.
@@widowerson bonds have to be later back with interest by taxpayer dollars. Police should be personally liable for any misconduct like all citizens.
i've seen a guy proposing that they should pay their own insurance and hence would have bigger or smaller ones for their actions. if no insurance want to pay for you (or ask too much) then you can't be a cop, good cops would get bonnus like your car insurance. and i think it's one pretty good solution, i wish my country did that
Yes they need to have malpractice insurance.
no, you deserve for the money to being taken from your taxes. you allow people like this to exploit the system, taking pictures of a police station is suspicious no matter what rights you have. he may do a jihad on it the next day, who knows? are you aware of that? its good that the money comes from your taxes, you let criminals like this skinny guy exploit the system.
since the supervisor that broke up this illegal activity by the first officer knew the law, i hope he had passed it on to officers under him, and if he has passed the info to the offending officer, that officer needs to be FIRED NOW!
i don't believe he was baiting the cops but even if he was, a good cop wouldn't of taken the bait
I agree, when the cop saw him he walked away.
i think he was... he was trying to test the law
@Lots_Of_Random_Clips thank you
@Jeff B
Cops are taught on the down low to lie as much as they feel is needed to get to their objectives. With no remorse whatsoever. Hell even praised as the best interviewing officers.
Oh I think he was totally baiting the cops, and they took the bait🐟 lol!
"He's part of an organization called 1st amendment strike team. He has every right to do that"
"Yeah and that's fin-"
"Uncuff him"
LMFAO.
The exact moment he knew he got bodied by The first amendment strike team.🤣
Hhahahahahha thanks!
But boss we’re cops and he has to answer and respect my authoritiiiii
BOSS
Shut up and I un cuff him moron shakes head damn we’re gonna get sued again
😂😂😂😂
fuckin' priceless. Lol
Cops often say you have the right to remain silent but don't like it when you remain silent apparently.
They have to read them their rights but it would make their job easier if you gave them information. So cops don't tell you to be quiet they are saying you could if you want to.
DrakeDracoDragon89
The cops reasoning for reading you your rights is not because it is something they like.
@@rudolf6215 miranda rights only have to be read when being arrested and interrogated. Keep that in mind, it's not the same in the movies.
Correct, and that is not very known. You only have to be read your Miranda's if you're going to be asked questions.
Cops dont even read rights these days. The demand answers on openly stated suspicion of guilt.
10:16
He should get an A+ for going the extra mile in learning what is going on in his community :)
8:35 "He has every right to do that."
"Yeah and I have no problem with that but - "
"Yeah. Uncuff him."
SOLID GOLD.
the supervisor KNEW they(mostly the arresting officer) screwed up, and didn't want to hear excuses or reasonings.
@@ksfallenangel5770 yep, and he knew the guy was getting paid by the minute
i wonder what would what he would have said if he hadn,t got cut off at but?
@@ksfallenangel5770 he knew it was being filmed by both parties and would be used as evidence. He wanted them all to say as little about it as possible in front of the cameras.
@@NoelAKABigNolo you mean getting paid for every minute he UNLAWFULLY detained? That’s called justice.
It's their ego that gets them in trouble.
Always. It always boils down to that
Sadly, cost us money tax payers money.
You Wii respect my authoritee!!
@@coppersmith4461 it should come out of their retirement fund
what do you mean gets them in trouble? do mean a week paid vacation
The cops always throw out the ""Well, in today's world we don't know if you're a terrorist or mass murderer, so we got to violate your rights."
I love how the supervisor was like "he's here to see how we react to the situation". He knows these videos are happening, now he needs to make sure his officers follow the book to a T.
They usually follow the book to a “T”
Taser!
That’s how a professional supervisor should act in this interactions bravo 👏
agreed, but unfortunately if you request a supervisor you're not likely to get a captain(usually better informed) but a field sergeant. Often times the sergeants are just as ignorant as their subordinates.
Also in this case he was fortunate enough that the supervisor recognized him and that made things easy,if it was anybody else I don't think it would have been that smooth.
Why doesn't the supervisor get an A+? What else could you possibly have done?
@@xyz.ijk. My understanding of an A+ is when you not only meet expectations/requirements, but you far exceed them.
"So I was illegally detained?"
"Yes sir, you were"
"In which case, please arrest that man for kidnapping me"
Could you imagine if that supervisor had done that? The other officer committed a crime and should be arrested for it. That way he can be fined an amount equal to what the lawsuit cost the taxpayer.
Amen. Also, due to the way the state classifies "kidnapping" (btw, kidnapping would be ANY circumstance where you physically moved someone against their will by 3ft or more or restrained them against their will by force) the officer would be labeled a sex offender for the rest of his life. Kidnapping goes down as Human-Trafficking, which is a sex-crime.
Amen!!!!!!!!
What would tell the judge?
The doctrine of qualified immunity allows police officers to not be held personally liable as long as they were on the job. Absolute bullshit
@@ldlink3935 if the cop know lil about the LAW this wouldn't happen!!
I bet those two cops still think they can do this to people, even after being sued for it ,,,, its their ego that won't let it sink in !
41k for a few minutes detainment. Im in the wrong line of work !!!!
David Pedder amen I’m ready to copy the model lol
I believe the actual grabbing of the arm and spinning him around to face the officer was the big money grabber and not the illegal detainment. The grab could be grounds for an arrest on simple assault charges.
Sinbadd The Pirate , these jackboots are in the academy for 6 months. Lawyers go to school for years. They know very little about law, just motor vehicle codes and statutes. They are policy enforcing henchman who seek out problems and pray on the human nature to make mistakes.
@@Thorndog right because being trapped is so damn painful hahaha.....Jesus its just too much money they give away but we already know that right ? I mean there was a time where you could jump off a building claiming you drunk Red Bull and suing them because you couldn't fly.... America just failed to handle such situations with a reasonable amount of money.
Dont forget about the time invested in planning prior to and after the execution of the heist!
That Sargent was intelligent and knew the law, I give him mad props for handling the situation so well.
Look how low the bar is: giving cops props for acting lawfully.
Garrett1111 sad right
@@JohnTheRevelat0r this is about catching, punishing and educating the unlawful ones, though i think this guy in the video is taking it a bit too serious or in it for the money the fact is the officer was ignorant in the scenario and made the guy $41k richer off tax payer funds.
No, he knew about the 1st amendment strikers, big difference. Next uninformed citizen they gonna still bully.
“You are not in control here” this cops mistake was to think he is the law and all citizens must obey him.
Joel T. “You are not in control here” ahhh but he was
YES YES YES a thousand times *YES*
Who couldn't look up to this *A+* auditor?!?
ATA has a lot of good stuff but wow was this quick, concise and satisfying! ✌️
This supervisor is what we need more of. Unbelievably well handled.
Yes but it would have been better if he had educated his team or whatever they call them on the Constitution those Bozos are sworn to defend. How do you defend something you aren't smart enough to understand?
It's sad that the supervisor doing the job the way he should is classified an well handled.
Except that he should share this knowledge with his subordinates beforehand, to avoid these situations.
@@1974djin I manage 20 staff and it's hard to remember to keep them informed of every rule and policy out there and a lot of times cops know the law but their ego gets in the way so when he didn't respond and obey like almost everyone else the cops ego said I'm in charge and you'll bow down or I'll detain you.
I like how the supervisor just walked away from the other cop mid sentence. He didn't even give him a chance to finish talking, just walked away
He realized that every second longer the man was in cuffs was one more second used against them in the coming lawsuit.
This was $41,000... If the supervisor had stalled for a minute... tried to ask questions... or done anything else this would have been so much more costly.
@@ArkAngelHFB Very true. Good point.
His food was getting cold. More over it wasn’t anything earth shattering a few words into the explanation, he knew who was in the wrong. I’m sure mop ore professionalism could have been exercised but it seems he’s dealt with.the same thing once too many times,
Another minute and that 41k becomes 42.5k 😂
He knows copsplaining when he hears it.
Can I just shout out to the supervisor who immediately had the guy uncuffed. Kudos to the cops that respect the law.
Was it respect of the law or fear of a lawsuit?
@@thomasjones3508 i would go with the second...
@@thomasjones3508 he got 41k from a lawsuit anyway sooo
Only the supervisors actually know a law or two.
He did the right thing, bottom line, INo reason to assume it was for the wrong reason.
Gotta say thank you again for putting this out for people bro!!!
8:34 "OK, and I was fine with that, I don't, I don't have any ..."
"UNCUFF HIM."
Supervisor doesn't care what you're "fine with", lol.
Kevin Cowell well said that supervisor had 0 time for copsplaining from a subordinate
Such a satisfying moment
You can almost feel the supervisor going "OOOOF" when the other guy says "He has every right to do that and I cuffed him anyway"
This douchbag cop has the training and intelligence of a bag of hammers.
Good on you sir --(the Sargeant) for showing what a real professional is! We need more like you. Much more!!!
Supervisor:"What did you do?"
Officer: "I handcuffed him."
Supervisor: "Why?"
Officer: "He made fotos."
Supervisor: "Oh boi ..."
I wouldn’t have cuffed him but that’s creepy I would’ve kept my eyes on him though.
😆
Supervisor: "uncuff him!"
Officer: "but...whut...oh shiiit"
LOL literally cackling right now 🤣🤣🤣
@@Jambuc829 he's such a creep, right? It's so creepy taking pictures of buildings and signs, isn't it?
I'd agree with you if he'd been taking pictures of other people but he wasn't so how does it make him creepy?
They need to start making these cops pay! Not tax dollars
100% And if they get start doing this a lot of these incidences and crimes that are being done by these crooked cops with barely happened anymore but nothing happens to them they never get fired they barely get suspended in their pockets never get hit
You figured it out, huh? Yeah I changed my major to Music Theory and Composition in college but I was minoring in Criminal Justice and majoring in Psychology. See, here's the fun part. Police officers pay Police-Union-dues. The Police Union pays for Union insurance. Union Insurance covers civil settlements for violations of Constitutional Rights and a civil rights lawsuit has to have merit to even go forward. Most dismissed charges and overturned convictions have little if any retroactive effect on Qualified Immunity but if they go forward, yes, officers are shielded from personal liability by paying into those insurance polices via the dues they pay to those mean ol' Police Unions.
For some cops, they consider their union dues to be the key to the backdoor of some assholes' Constitutional Rights. Say, "I don't consent to speak to you, officer and I'm going to break contact now. Have a nice day." to the wrong officer on the wrong day and, to paraphrase a Sovereign Citizens' term, that officer may choose to manufacture joinder between you and the corporation known as the city/county/state in which you find yourself engaged with that officer. "Oh, gentle citizen, I'm afraid I must impose on just the briefest moment of your time, because I've decided you're going to give me your fucking undivided attention whether your uppity ass wants to or not, so shove your consent up your ass. If you get a few thousand bucks for your inconvenience later, MEH (shrugs)."
Maybe try having a happy happy joy joy attitude and swallow your pride, oh, won't you?
That's a slippery slope though, it most likely will lead officers not to do their job for the risk of losing money
@@Fantasy_____________________
Fair point... I look at it like a dr. Has malpractice insurance and pay huge premiums for it too. And does this mean that they are now afraid to do their job? If so then we are all screwed.
@@Steel-Pinnings these cops KNOW their violating rights if not? They need more than 6 mos
Training no comparison to doctors
"He's part of an organization called the first amendment strike team" damn that ranking is hella cool how he said it
Give that supervisor a promotion
I would love to get wrongfully arrested and sue police departments for a living
Nope Nope - Bring down corruption and get paid doing it. Sounds good to me!
I'd feel a lot better if it wasn't the taxpayer footing the bill. The individual cop should be accountable for his illegal actions.
Where do i sign up id take that job any day
Like Denzel said "My Man" he made 41k on the street in less than 15min with no dope & the assistance of the police.
The moment the sargent said " he has every right to do that uncuff him now " 😁 the most satisfying moment ever.
@Jerry Shandrowsky trigger
The other officer with the dumb face "un...cuff him?" As if that idea is crazy.
NO SIR, the most satisfying moment is when they HAND OVER THE CHECK!!! LOLOLOL
And then the other cop says "and I'm fine with that." The capt. should have then said, "Don't tell me that when you have him cuffed for it."
And the guy gets paid for it, lol
Supervisor gets an A++ for telling him how to file a complaint before the man even had to ask.
The money needs to come out of the police retirement funds .
The police would learn the laws if they have to be held accountable.420 Steve
Why should the taxpayer foot the bill for tyrant's that don't know the law. I agree how can we hold them accountable for their actions ? This is the first step require cops to pay for their own insurance.
This what I, and many others, have been saying for quite some time. When the fuck ups of the few start costing the many (cops), this shit will stop.
@@alphabeta591 This should be the primary focus for all auditor's. Doctor's have to carry medical malpractice insurance in case they hurt someone. Police should have the same so they are held accountable personally instead of hiding behind the thin blue line.
@@scottbrown7275 great idea!
What is money
The only reason he cuffed him was because the cop was but hurt when he would not answer him .
Pretty much. Power trip man
I believe you are correct and this was shown when he said you are not in control of this situation.
Insecurity is inevitable as a police officer. The few who are reasonable and secure, are true alphas who actually do their job, the majority are retaliatory henchmen
Theres no reason why the supervisor shouldnt get the A+ here. He did everything right, no drama. He got the basic rundown, immediately ordered that the auditor be uncuffed, listened to the auditor and literally invited him in to make a complaint about the matter. It was perfect on the supervisors behalf.
yeah, except as supervisor this is something that he should have discussed at length with his subordinates. He obviously knew all about the guy himself, so he should have guessed that this sort of thing would eventually come up. He didn't, hence the A
@@fluxfingers Great answer . . . Great minds think alike.
we giving the police credit for doing their job properly now ...smh
He got a A instead of a A+ for not putting his phone on silent
@Ron Woodroof Looks to me like robbery of taxpayer money. This behavior is applauded? Why? Is it retaliation against police? If so, how is it helping?
I think this is the best way an audit can be conducted. Excellent job!
this is literally the exact opposite of when cops set up a sting
The is nothing that requires a cop to behave stupidly. But if the taxpayers don't want to keep paying for the stupid actions of some cops they need to overwhelm the mayor with complaints and demands that the police chief weed out the Neanderthals.
@@leonardwolf1820 Neanderthals did nothing wrong
20 minutes on his lunch break to make $24,000 not a bad day at the office.
After watching many of these videos I'm starting to realize that there is financial gain to be had doing these videos if you can deal with the discomfort of being detained and possible arrested. I've seen a lot of settlements, all justifiable.
@@greglapointe1311 Frfr I was just thinking about this
why the video say 41,000?
@@greglapointe1311 it is not about the money it's about exposing officer misconduct and making sure they know not to do it to anyone one else regardless of them fully¹ understanding the law of not. *¹ fully: knowing or completly (in this case) know what laws protect you or the officer in question. Doing this for money is sad. These settlements are a result of police departments not charging their respective policy's for the people but rather against the people who theg swore to serve.
@@CallMeP1ink Hate to be the one who says it but yes it is about the money. Auditors largely do this for money, be it lawsuits (not super common anymore but were once very common) or simply viewers/subs/donations on their videos. They make a good chunk of money if their channel takes off, their channels take off when situations like this happen.
I love when the Supervisor just walks away from the cop while he was still CopSplaining to him.
NIX 5 Cents a whole 3 likes well spoken💀😂
Clan PLAN B Oh you’re one of those cuks that measures their self worth from likes on a screen. Well Good luck with that.
That's what I was going to say
Best part. Actual law being enforced.
Yep, he already knew it was an auditor, knew Romero had already well failed with flying colors, and knew there absolutely was a law suit coming on the back end of it that they'd have no choice but to settle on. He didn't need to hear another syllable out of the officers mouth to know he was the biggest idiot involved of everyone present.
Should have got fired. Why do cities hire such uneducated personnel. It's nation wide.7 out of 10 cops gave no idea what the laws are nor what the constitution is.
so you're telling me that I just have to photograph police stations long enough to run into an ignorant cop and I get $25k?
Pretty much
I found a job
Yes
even though videos like this have been around for years, I bet you could still land a fish in less than 1/2 an hour.
@@pablogaeta3815 Shit, I'm going out to buy a camera tomorrow!!!!! To hell with busting my ass at work everyday...
The good thing about this is the police department got sued.
The bad part is , we taxpayers are the ones paying these lawsuits.
We need to turn this law around, make the police officers involved pay the lawsuits out of his own pocket.
Yes.
Trino Ponce I. WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree!!!
It’s actually a valid point you make, in the future however in order for us to get the officers to pay out of their own pocket, they just have to be sued in their private capacity instead of the Police force. This would certainly get their attention on a more personal note, however, if that were to happen, there would probably been no policy change and education as it is now. I ‘m not sure if you could sue the department and the individual at the same time or not but that’s something we might want to look in to.
The police dept, fire dept. Etc.. they all get a budget each year. Certain amount of money to use each year for equipment, training, paying overtime, supplies etc. etc.
They should take these law suit fees out of that departments annual budget.
I know it's all still tax papyer money paying these budgets but atleast this way you are directly affecting that department. They don't want to loose budget money, in fact you do everything you can to burn thru that money and make it look as of you need more the next year in Hope's the city manager will give it to you. If these lawsuits come out of their budget they will start training their officers better to not loose any of that money.
@@allthingssilver7635 .... Your idea is ok, but making the involved police officers pay the lawsuits themselves out of their own pockets is the best answer.
As long as we taxpayers are the ones paying the lawsuits, they ( those police officers ) really don't care.
When cop thinks he’s more than a civil servant goes wrong, but I do like the way the supervisor just walked away while the cop was talking to him, PRICELESS.
He was thinking... oh you dumbass
I would never have the guts to do this, even if I knew what I was doing was 100% legal.
4:04 As soon as he started spitting statutes, you know the cop started sweating.
youre not lying
Nah. When you start going on about statues, they just assume you're a sovereign citizen nutjob.
@@ClassicalRips who's about to get an extra $40 k.
Nah, I"ve seen those sovereign citizen nutjobs. They don't often quote statutes. They start saying nonsense that has nothing to do with real laws and statutes. "RIght to travel". They'll tell you that the constitution doesn't matter or is invalid even. "A piece of paper doesn't give me my rights".
@@Logan_Baron It's not that those people are incorrect but rather they don't understand that those types of arguments are never, ever acknowledged by the lower courts for a variety of reasons so it's pointless to claim the "right to travel" unless you have the resources to appeal the case all the way and even then the higher courts can simply decide they don't want to hear the case.
Also, I've seen tons of these videos where the auditor can recite the relevant statutes verbatim as did the guy in this video.
Anyone who believes in personal responsibility knows that officer Ramirez should have paid that $41K out of his own pocket. Taxpayers didn't break the law, the officer did.
There should be some kind of impact on him personally for sure. Maybe a 10% pay cut for a few months for each infraction like this. Make them think about it before abusing their position.
Metal Jack respectfully, there is a bigger picture. These officers work for their chief, who reports to the mayor and councilmembers, and just like the roadways and other infrastructure, those people are elected and accountable for the training of police officers. If police are not trained properly, it is the responsibility, even if not the direct fault, of those elected officials who designate where money goes. That $41,000 should have been spent on training. It wasn’t, and you have to hit these people in their pockets for not appropriating their budget correctly. When the city loses money, people are pissed off and the politicians either fix the problem or they don’t get re-elected. And just as importantly, we have to remember that poor training can result in a loss of life, and no amount of money can rectify that.
@@Dremin2009 or maybe he gets a certain amount taken out every paycheck until the full 41k is paid back in full
@@hawk535 It doesn't work that way
They hopefully had a conversation with him at some point about the interaction. It's pretty obvious the officer diddn't have enough training to be doing his job, just like many of the American cops we see in media. Regardless of what happened it's gotta be pretty embarrasing for him that everyone knows he cost the city $41,000 for being a bit of a dickhead
I love the way the guy acts like he is pissed off when in fact, he is getting exactly what he wanted..
What he wants is the PD to recognize the Constitutional rights they've been ignoring and making them pay in court. In theory, he'd be happy if every area and department were compliant. They aren't so it makes his life interesting.
@J Merchan Nearly everything you said here is incorrect. The Officer instigated this illegal detainment and that amount of settlement is considered a nuisance. An auditor can never know how PD will react but present them with a legal dillemna to see how they react. Depending on how badly they react they SHOULD be sued for damages because their mistakes have real life consequences.
@J Merchan Damages in the case you describe would be lucrative. This one is not and is in line with settlements from multiple cases around the country. What do you think should be the resolution for cases like this?
@@razorbeard6970 they could just start asking for classes on stuff like this to be held at the department regularly as part of a settlement. The city would bite that faster than the officer in the video.
@@youtubeSuckssNow Not really. I don't think training is the issue as a number of departments already train on this exact issue due to the growing activity of 1st amendment auditing.
Obviously, having an I.Q. less than 50 is a mandatory requirement to be hired as a law enforcement officer. Unfortunately the city will foot the bill and not the officer.
Eggs
ouch man unless you are a dark skinned POC, especially a guy. Then you may be murdered
@@Im.me.hi.: Very true.
@@Im.me.hi. Funny how these audits get caught on film and justice is served more than a poc getting killed UNARMED do....On camera at that.
Tax payer money
@@TCthaCrisis Look up a channel called "Donut Operator" Plenty of film of police officers LEGALLY shooting unarmed PEOPLE (see how I used the word people?)
I got say the best moment of this video was when the supervisors phone started ringing after dispatch started getting call flooded! Priceless!
what makes u think that was part of the auditor call flood? or that it was even livestreamed?
AirPlayRule AirPlayRule AirPlayRule to answer your second question; in the middle of the video, while mr O’Connell was detained, he states that he was live-streaming.
Yes.
The supervisor couldn't get the cuffs off fast enough. He new every extra minute cuffed was going to cost 8 grand
You can see him shove the first cop and the sound of disappointment in his voice ha
That Supv. Officer deserves a raise for his temperament and knowledge base. Cudos man. Would love to see all officers follow his lead.
Sargent came on the scene and immediately realized "Oh shit, there goes 50 grand"....
Lieutenant. Not Sergeant.
🤣🤣🤣
Willie Vickers who cares?
@@joew8013 Everyone but you...Anymore questions?
@@willievickers2318 Captain*
THAT COP SHOULD BE PAYING FROM HIS OWN PACKED NOT THE TAXPAYERS PERIOD
You are absolutely right, and subsequently fired with prejudice, that way he cannot just go a county or two over and get another job.
Absolutely
Oh so now he should pay out of his pocket, but you dip shits always say they're public servants and the tax payer pays their salary, so tell me dumb ass, whether he pays out of his pocket or not, it still will be tax payers money.
Punisher
I assume your a cop, or a buff.
Loss of qualified immunity can occur from an officer who deprived a citizen of their rights. They swore to uphold and protect those rights.
They probably settled out of court for such a low amount, if he had pushed for a full trial the officer could have lost his home and his wife and kids would have left him. The officer should be thanking him.
Punisher
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualified_immunity
Man, I need to quit my job and start auditing full time.
I got the gear to film, we can start a channel and sue to keep the operations going lol
41k that more of what I make a year
I hear ya. I need to get camera too.
FACTS!!!!
Right? Why bust my ass 40 hours a week, 50 weeks a year to earn $40,000 if I can make that much money in a mere 15 minutes by simply photographing my local PD????
Always refreshing to see a cop who not only enforces the law, but actually KNOWS the law
I like the moment officer Romero said "he was taking pictures" the lieutenant looked at the body camera and sighed.
I saw that too. Very telling. He said that shit like," dude were you on your phone during the briefing?"
It’s becoming painfully obvious that most cops today have no clue how the constitution works or have a basic understanding of how the laws in this country work.
you pay low, you get the bottom of the barrel. hell, in a lot of places, you can be a cop without even going to any academy or actual law course. it's a high risk, but low paying job. no wonder most of what we get are thugs who abuse their power.
They need to be educated on citizen rights
rakninja That’s a damn lie. What the hell places are these? No California or Georgia most certainly not Texas or Florida what the hell are you talking about.
@@Jambuc829 Washington state was definitely one. Hell I talked to a cop a few months ago about possibly getting hired, basically said all I need is a high school diploma and to pass academy, a three week long course. Which is an absolute joke. Met a bunch of ex-Seattle cops who said the pay was so bad it'd be smarter in the long run to go to college and find a better job.
@@rakninja It's not even that high risk. Policing is #16 for job danger according to the bureau of labor statistics, behind construction, pizza delivery, farming, running a garbage truck, etc. They just say it's high risk so people don't criticize them as much when they massively mess up.
I get the feeling this was planned. Couple minutes of phone photography for $41,000. A real business man here.
well, heck yes. A business opportunity for you too ....
It's only money if the piggies aren't playing by the rules...and they don't, cause tax payers cover the cost. I wish they were baited so much, they had no clue who was bait and who isn't. They would actually have to behave their neanderthalic asses, cause every second person would be bait.
Had to be 💀 he knew his penal codes n everything
If the police officer read the rules then no payment
....not if the officers were educated on the law.
It makes no sense that you can become a law enforcement officer without at least a basic understanding of the laws you are there to enforce. You wouldn't hire someone to be a pilot who didn't understand how to fly a plane.
Yes yes yes, BUT, the cop got away with it, the cop suffered no financial responsibility. $40 k is a joke, it will not dissuade any cop from similar conduct.$ 1000k might.
Good idea! Deduct an amount from each paycheck say 5%, then you would see some bastard attitudes change real fast.
BINGO.....Should have sued him PERSONALLY, he did commit several felonies against FAST.
40k coming out of tax payers pockets.
@@reborn9110 Just more extortion and treason from the seditious scumbags called government.
If it came from a pension fund they would keep each other in check.
cop should be fired immediately. he had no PC at all to detain him.
The officer only needed RAS, not PC.
RAS to detain, PC to arrest.
@Cliff Thomas Usually, it's INSURANCE COMPANY money.
Covers the City (official capacity) and (individual capacity) officers.
If he had shot and killed him, maybe termination. If you could have got the union to agree? But the fact he didn't shoot first, maybe something we can work with. I think a lot more training about the Constitution, photography, private and public property and he may be an ok cop.
@ maze me...... How about filing a case directly against the 'man' ?? Make him pay for his wrongful behaviour out of his own pocket.....you can bet that they'd learn REAL fast that way !
@@Jayen4 I totally agree, in some cases police lose their qualified immunity and ca. be sued personally, they normally don't end up paying much because judge knows they can't afford it
The supervisor was soooooo upset at romero. Even when he was being lectured about his officers illegal detainment, he just stared at the ground like "this is gonna hurt..."
Pretty sure he glanced at the arresting officer's body cam a few times lol. He knew what was coming.
Immediately heard enough and said uncuff him
OFFICER ROMERO NEEDS TO GO TO PRISON FOR LIFE! AFTER HE PAYS BACK THE $45,000 TO THE CITIZEN TAXPAYERS! HE CAN GET WORK RELEASE TO GO AROUND TO DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENTS TEACHING THIS INCIDENT AND CIVIL RIGHTS. ELIGIBLE FOR PAROLE AFTER 5 YEARS, NEVER TO BE A COP AGAIN.
The best part is when the captain says uncuff him
The supervisor deserves an A+, too. Be fair. That’s what justice is all about.
Yea he knew exactly what was going on, responded immediately with releasing him from cuffs, and told his officers why it was incorrect. Took all of 10 seconds to get it sorted out.
@bob smith what makes you think he tolerates it? He clearly doesnt
@@winterfell9990 the cops were able to do this. It's simple as a leader those under are in your command. Something as basic as culinary, if a salad goes out wrong, it starts with the chefs to properly train our subordinates. If they make a mistake I look bad, I am held to the standard of how effectively I lead it's simple. 1 person can not be everywhere buy it's his job to ensure those under are an extension of his leadership, knowledge and training. If this dude was just a hustler, the cops under him should have known this was a grift. Cops have know the law and they have to know the streets, how else would they survive. If the captain knew this individual or of similar gifts that cost the city money, his subordinates should have known..he gets a C. The team under him is lacking and that's unacceptable. If they are to have access to military level equipment and gear, these people need the highest training. I expect Navy seal level, my safety is on the line, we need to police who cant handle these situations without bias, just based on the laws. Why is our bar so low. I expect my doctors to also hopefully be the best on the planet as well.
I would think as a supervisor that knows about these kind of activities, would have educated his staff ahead of time, thus the A instead of A+ That's how I interpreted this.
@@IowaKim exactly what am i thinking. Totally agree
You can tell the sergeant was pissed as soon as he saw the guy cuz he knew what was going on
Danny Mann -Captain, but I agree.
Yea he was pissed tf off
As soon as the call on the radio that said “one in custody, gonna need a supervisor here”.
The supervisor is.a Captain not a Sargeant !!! note the captains bars 😛😛
@@nutindoin2 Sergeant. Note the E.
Auditing has been going on for years, how has every cop in the country not learned these laws yet?
This is the best training those cops ever got. Mr O'Connell getting $41k compensation is actually just him collecting his well earned salary from the police department. O'Connell should be given a medal from all citizens, he is literally spending his time making the country safer for everyone.
Yes I 100% agree!
All citizens should also donate a monthly fee to Mr O'Connell it's the LEAST they could do!
Dude, don't you GET it? Do you pay taxes? (I do.) It's YOUR money!! This is why taxes keep going up. The jackoff hustled YOU!
@@johnlombard777 - I disagree.
@Comedian Johnny Bello nah, I’m happy to pay money for on the job training of police officers.
@@johnlombard777 he didn’t “hustle “ anyone. Cops didn’t do their job.
I really enjoy how you objectively break these videos down and provide relevant information. Thanks for the upload!
Thet is easy sints its his video. Id like to see officer side of story
Funny how the tables turn......
Using bait against those who bait others. I love it.
NSUScooter oh how the turntables ........
I love that he won $41,000. And I love hearing cops complain about this when they meet an auditor. “You just want a paycheck.“ I’m still waiting for an auditor to say “well, If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime” lol. Or any of the infantilizing comments that they use against society