Never really thought about it before, but piloting AF1 has to be the most chill job. ATC is always accommodating and you always fly in clear airspace or it gets cleared out by force. Repeat backs? Nah, I'll land where and when I want.
I would imagine whoever gets to fly AF1 has had some tough ass jobs beforehand to qualify for af1. So I don’t mind them being lazy in this case, earned it
Something like that happened in 2010 when President Obama was in Seattle. A small plane entered restricted airspace and didn't respond immediately to warnings. Two F-15's were scrambled out of Portland and practically the entire Pacific Northwest could hear (and yes, feel) the sonic booms they created as they screamed up the I-5 corridor. The lovely couple in the small plane realized their mistake when confronted by the two fighter jets, landed in a hurry and all was Golden Grahams.
@@terrydouglas5008 I think if you can keep calm enough to land a small plane after two F-15's 'introduce' themselves to you, then you have the constitution to keep yourself from blowing chunks or blowing something else. 🤢😖
Trust me being intercepted by a fighter IS the definition of intimidation. But on the plus side you get a pretty good free air show up close, real close, and personal.
@@staitz2728 after a headbutt. That usually gets one's attention and gains compliance. It is the definition of intimidation. Used to fly the targets where they practiced this.
@@Naxima18 luckly I only experienced it flying the practice target. I am sure if it was for real one would have to answer hard questions with big fines attached.
I sure as hell would not want to be intercepted by a fighter jet in a civvie plane, those things are scary when they're close (the jets, I mean). Pretty sure I'd be flying direct to the South Pole if I was the poor guy who wandered into restricted airspace without knowing it
Well, we weren’t told we would be “fired upon”, but my dad and I were flying to Reno for an air show one year and we were contacted by tower and told to alter our course. Apparently there was a little demonstration we were about to fly over on our original route. Nothing major..... just high altitude rocket tests...... 😂
It's polite to ask, so they do. It also gives ATC a chance to know what they are doing and divert everyone else so the ATC doesn't vector someone into a pissing match with the air force by accident.
That's the funny thing about sonic booms: If you can hear them, whatever is making them is headed for someplace else in a big damn hurry. Specifically, a someplace else *that you aren't near*, or you wouldn't be hearing the boom at all.
there wouldn't be sonic booms in the distance ... the F-18's would be on your first since to create the sonic booms, they have to flying faster than the sound anyways.
This happens more often than you may imagine. During the Bush years I was an army controller working out of Gray army airfield at Fort Hood (not the other one) which was within the crawford TFR. Every ATC facility whose airspace AF1 would traverse had to be on a conference call. So we heard everything and it was insane. There was constantly some aircraft that wasn't talking to ATC who was being closely watched.
@@TravisWBurton Well I guess in practice yeah because who wouldn't let a Medevac through , in theory though my understanding is that no the Medevac doesn't actually have priority even over civilian planes, actually the only scenario where a plane would have priority over Air Force 1 ( and this is only for US Airspace btw ) is in case of an actual in air emergency but then why would that plane be in the No fly zone to begin with ...
@@TravisWBurton it’s in the rulebook that the ATCs have to follow. no joke: top priority is emergency situations, then medivac, then search and rescue, then AF1. as much as they like to act like they’re the top dogs of all flights, AF1 is trumped by those three so s/he has to wait until the path is clear. Secret Service might whine, but they’d complain about anything that they can’t control
When AF one is in the airspace of the airport, the airport is essentially closed and it's airspace is off limits to all other traffic. They do not explain it, they just refuse to grant permission to incoming aircraft. Anyone on inbound is sent off on a missed approach or hold in place if far enough out still.
I was on a flight to Bali from Singapore. We were on final and almost on the ground when the engines roared and we were up in a steep climb. Captain stated VIP was on approach directly behind us and we had to go-around. We parked right beside AF1. Obama was attending the APEC meeting. We used ground stairs to a waiting bus. Nobody got on the bus. Everyone just walked around the bus and took pics. AF1 was beautiful. Elves must clean and polish it while it's inflight. LOL!
In SoCal airspace once heard ATC ask AF-1 to circle and hold for traffic. AF-1 replied “Son, this is AF-1 we do not circle and hold for traffic.” Immeadiately another likely more senior ATC voice cleared AF-1 for approach and landing at LAX...
@@solomontan1524 There isnt because it never happened. Flight school and traffic control 101 is AF1 is God. Only medical can over ride AF1 and AF1 would know beforehand
@@Christerray Have you ever seen a MANPAD or the inside of a Cessna? A stinger missile would barely fit in the cockpit if at all, and would kill everyone inside the Cessna if they tried to shoot it... If they had a MANPAD it'd be far more effective to shoot it from the ground.
A few years ago a jetliner going from Atlanta to Reagan National in Washington was handed over from ATC Northern Virginia to ATC Reagan National. The ATCs did it right but the jetliner never contacted Reagan National. Almost 10 minutes later they radioed in and apologize for getting the frequency wrong. At that point ATC Reagan National informed them that at any second a pair of F-16s out of Andrews will be with them one to the port and one behind. They were advised to exactly mimic the motions of the one to the port or the one behind will shoot them down. Moral of the story: pay freaking attention!😂
Just once, I want to hear an ATC recording of a pilot responding after wandering into a TFR/Restricted Air Space say “ I’m trying to reach Lando Calrissian”
@malik when small planes no or any plant really enters a major airport,, cross traffic, descend or deviate without clearance the control tower tells them they have to call this number usually it’s bad news for them, especially if they don’t listen on the first warning
This and a story my dad told me from one of his buddies who flown for the Air Force (dad’s army), both show that military aircraft is terrifying, but the story my dad told me was this: A bunch of foreign pilots in fighter jets were flying where they weren’t suppose to, but my dad’s buddy was in a stealth aircraft flying above them, the foreign air crafts couldn’t detect them, but they continued flying into restricted territory until finally my dad’s buddy said over the radio: “Turn Around and go home, I can see you” very creepily as well, the foreign pilots kept looking around in their cockpits and straight up U-Turned and booked it out of the territory, then he came onto the radio with “don’t ever come back”.
Reminds me of the story of the F22 that intercepted an Iranian F-4, checked their weapons loadout without being detected before pulling up on their wing . The F-4 turned away very quickly.
The detail that the aircraft is "squawking 1200 in mode 3" just means that the pilot is on visual flight rules (VFR) and has not been assigned a specific transponder code by air traffic control. The people suggesting that a number of planes might all start heading south reflects this, unless they realized the location is not referring to them.
I live near Site R and Camp David, north of D.C.. It is restricted airspace and every once in a while a small plane will fly over the mountain and it's like the military jets appear out of nowhere. I'm sure they're flying around every day just waiting for someone to mess up.
So what your saying is there is psychopathic pilots waiting for a chance to kill someone... Good to know that top to bottom there is insane people in this country
I spent 20 years has a central Texas peace officer. One of my jobs was to guard the president's gate when he was in the Crawford White House during the President Bush administration. One of the local crop duster pilots had a beautiful stearman.on the 13th or 14th of September right after the terrorist attack he decided he wanted to go fly his stearman about. This was during the Nationwide ground stop. He had been flying about 5 or 10 minutes when to f-18s out of fort Worth come screaming by him.they're contacting him on the radio and all of that and he chops his AirSpeed down to about 80 miles an hour.they're ordering him to the ground and he's playing coy because he's got an open cockpit and he tells him he can't hear them because of the are noise.II pilot told him if you don't land that aircraft immediately I'm going to blow you out of the..... Landing immediately was his IMMEDIATE ANSWER! believe it or not he got out of trouble by plain stupid that he didn't know the entire airspace of the entire country was shut down.
jomanaitor in a crop duster? Are you serious. Probably his back paddock, Private air strip, His farm driveway. He’s flying vfr and is endorsed to be under 500 feet so he could basically do what ever he wants in uncontrolled airspace whenever he wants apart from that very time in history.
We had a plane get too close to Air Force 1 here a few years ago, and an Air Force fighter flew over him and shot off about 20 flares on top of him. He got the message.
A story goes, back in the day of the Hustler bomber,1950's, 60's, there was a training exercise on the west coast. Everybody and every plane our Air Force had in the area was in on it. This one, lone delta wing bomber was cruising along flying relaxed, no rush. As the other planes were closing in they were about to call it a win for them. The Hustler pilot asked if they all had him cold, they said yes they did. The Hustler said, "Good. Bye.". He dropped altitude down to the carpet, hit HIS engines afterburners and all. And disappeared! From sight and off radar! Seems it was built to pop up over one horizon, run in, drop a nuclear payload of bombs accurately and run away to dip below the other horizon. In nine seconds. Nine seconds! If it ain't true, it ought to be.
I was driving wrecker on the flight line (perimeter road) on an AFB in Indiana watching a B-58 take off........it reached an altitude of about 40 feet....did a roll, and as its landing gear retracted, it slowly (it seemed) sank back down into the runway at full afterburner.....on its back.......the crew didnt have a chance........nice plane, but it was not very safe to fly.....flight controls problems....
@@oldman4021 it suffered many accidents....its speckled record is available online....I believe a few are on display....but will never fly again......I trust.
Flying with dad in 1970s Charter flight. We strayed into controlled airspace at Melbourne. The same style command voice from traffic control made it quite certain of the mistake. No fighter jets but DCA put Dad on full SAR for rest of flight! No more mistakes on navigation. Did not loose licence. Melbourne Airport Victoria.
I remember a bar room chat with the pilot of an Australian Air Force F18. It was suggested that trying to lock a C172 would be like a C172 trying to lock on to a pigeon. The F18 jockey just said, "We wouldn't worry about the plane, we could lock the pigeon".
Training for my pilot license in my Grumman Traveler with an instructor we finished up in a practice area at 1,500 ft AGL. Instructor called in to ATC Fresno to advise inbound to land. Just then we heard high pitched pinging faster and ever louder screaming in our headsets. ATC “Gruman 626L 2 F-16s at 6 O’Clock passing left and under.” The F-16s loaded with missiles from patrol roared maybe 500 ft to our left and under us then climbed, rolled, were gone to land way ahead of us. Instructor asked me “Now how do you feel about fire-control radar locking on to you?”
I think there's a list of aircraft that AF1 has to hold for. You are correct. Angel flights are one of them. Medevacs and short span donor organs as well. I heard con-air was on the list as well but that sounds like a myth.
Angel Flight is not just flights "bringing back the bodies of American heroes" - it's any flight certified as a medical emergency. It could be someone who's been in a RTA, or a child traveling for an urgent transplant, not just people who chose to go to war in other countries, then paid the price.
Interesting, never heard a controller refer to AF1 as "Air Force One Heavy". There's an FAA order that specifically states "When in radio communications with “Air Force One” or “Air Force Two,” do not add the heavy designator to the call sign. State only the call sign “Air Force One/Two” regardless of the type aircraft."
Wow, I didn't know NOTAM's are also used for that. The only NOTAM's I hear about are whenever DRDO or the Armed Forces decide to do a missile test or whenever ISRO launches a rocket to space.
@William Yeager Thanks for that. But it only seems to report on American NOTAMs. I am more interested in NOTAMs from Balasore or Sriharikota or the seas around those areas
@@death_parade Notams are issued for a large number of reasons..... for VVIP movmnt, any work going on at airport, unserviceability of any landing or navigational equipment or service etc.. not only for isro, drdo work. Notams will be issued for any incident, change or issue that will affect the normal operation of a flight
So…. The real question. Who would win? Spicy Air Force bois, or even spicier Steven piloting the Cessna N731NR that wants to argue over Bravo airspace clearance with Las Vegas ATC? 🤔
A fighter pilot did have permission directly from GW Bush to fire on airliner heading towards cleveland on 9/11. The pilot opted to hold fire based on what he could see in the aircraft. People seemed to be acting normal. Turns out the plane had a radio issue. A few more pilots were ordered to NYC with their unarmed jets since they were already in the air for practice. They were told they may need to slam their jets into another aircraft if anything else came in needing taken down prior to aimed jets arriving. Of course they would eject prior to impact....
*"This is what you going to hear when you fly around by Air Force One"* Yeah, i was about to take my Honda Civic and fly around Air Force One this weekend, i hope it's a good weather
Remember the scene from "My Fellow Americans", where the INS helicopter wanted some identification from the Military helicopter? th-cam.com/video/9HaEgXeTkE0/w-d-xo.html (2:20)
There were over 50 + intercepts when AF1 would come to PSP. It just amazes me how many pilots either ignore the TFRs or don't read them. Amazed, not surprised! lol.
@@julienrooknizan5711 you just can't make stuff up buddy. In US airspace the presidential family of aircraft all come under the control of civilian air traffic control which is governed by the FAA. Controllers are required to ensure that all aircraft readback instructions and that the readback is correct. While ATC affords the presidential family of aircraft the courtesy of priority, they do not have right of way as you indicated and must remain unde the control of air traffic control as far as is safe for them to do so.
Imagine going for a little joy ride, it's a beautiful day for VFR. You got no idea ATC has been trying to contact you, you look to the side hoping to catch a glance of some nice scenery, and all you find is a flying god of destruction. Guy must've shit his pants lmao.
I think the most interesting thing about this recording is that Air Force 1 doesn't give a fuck about giving any readbacks. And ATC doesn't chase those readbacks!!!
For a time I watched a lot of videos with ATC recordings (mostly from JFK I think). From that I got the impression that complete readbacks only get used when there seems to be a real risk of misunderstanding. So there might be a lot of trust between ATC and the AF1 pilot (as well as no risk of collision with other aircraft), and thus they only bother with the minimum information exchange needed.
My boss broke down when this happened on the freeway near the airport. Cops showed up yelling at him HR had to move the president was landing! He said he did not give a duck who was landing his car was not moving! They called him a tow truck!
Legend has it that the Cessna finally ran out of fuel near the south pole.
Some say it’s still flying south to this day.
Sadly a Cessna doesn't have that range
@@danielsieker9927 Oh Really Sherlock? Welcome to the joke xdd
Needa more likes hahahaha
And the pilot ran out of underwears
"Vector south immediately or you may be fired upon" is even more terrifying to hear than "I have a number for you to call."
I already heard both. No.1 over Saudi Arabia diverting into Iraq due to weather and the other one a few weeks after receiving my PPL :-)
If only that cessana is a su-57 then reno will be treated to a real airshow...
I wanted to see that lol!
Make it loud and clear
HAHAHAHAHA
USAF : "Vector south immediately or you may be fire upon"
Cessna pilot : *takes a 9g turn heading south*
LOL 9G HAHAHA
@@blackbox6197 tf you are replying after 2 years, what a legend
@@jamesm4982 still!!!
@@blackbox6197 Ayeee, you read everything!
You deserve the views you are getting!
@@jamesm4982 Thank you :)
Never really thought about it before, but piloting AF1 has to be the most chill job. ATC is always accommodating and you always fly in clear airspace or it gets cleared out by force. Repeat backs? Nah, I'll land where and when I want.
I would imagine one of the more challenging aspects would be landing on runways that didn’t have a massive 747 in mind
I would imagine whoever gets to fly AF1 has had some tough ass jobs beforehand to qualify for af1. So I don’t mind them being lazy in this case, earned it
Until you have a missle shot at you....
@@fabrzflamethrwr1772 then you realize you can't pull a split S as easily in AF1 as you could when you were in an F-22
@@IntegralKing hope the chaff dispensers work.......
"Cessna Pilot - if you do not vector south immediately then descend altitude to negative six feet and hold eternally"
Hold eternally 😭😭😭
Lol
👌
Hilarious !
😂
Even the ATC left the tower and started walking south
🤣🤣🤣
lol
hahahahahahah
Something like that happened in 2010 when President Obama was in Seattle. A small plane entered restricted airspace and didn't respond immediately to warnings. Two F-15's were scrambled out of Portland and practically the entire Pacific Northwest could hear (and yes, feel) the sonic booms they created as they screamed up the I-5 corridor. The lovely couple in the small plane realized their mistake when confronted by the two fighter jets, landed in a hurry and all was Golden Grahams.
Heard about that
I was outside a college dorm in Tacoma. There was no missing those Eagles screaming by, wow!
I was living in Vancouver at the time, I remember it very specifically
How long did it take to clean the Cessna?
@@terrydouglas5008 I think if you can keep calm enough to land a small plane after two F-15's 'introduce' themselves to you, then you have the constitution to keep yourself from blowing chunks or blowing something else. 🤢😖
Fighter Pilot: "Vector south immediately or you may be fired upon"
Cessna Pilot: "Tower, I have a code brown emergency!"
"Definitely will need some new pants and possibly a new seat after landing!"
@@ts757arse The world just suddenly ends.
Cessna: "Tower, this is Air Force One, declaring emergency, the President has clogged the cabin shitter!"
This is why you might as well ignore every mother's advice "Always wear clean underwear."
@@ts757arse In case you would like to know for future use, the proper terminology is Radar Warning Receiver or RWR.
"USAF, that's gonna be a negative- my pizza rolls are done and the fastest route to my oven is a straight line, Cessna 69420."
USAF: "Fox 2.....Splash-1 big effect"
I don't care who you are...NO ONE gets between me and my pizza rolls!
"Cessna 69420, roger, we will be providing escort at this time, USAF"
"Airforce 1, vector north immediately or you will be fired upon"
@@blvck.8197 I doubt that Cessna would get close enough for fox 2s
@@blvck.8197 mig 29 : well hello there Mr AF1 would you like to see what my R-73 missile can do
USAF: Lovely day for flying, sir. Sorry to have to ruin it, but if you don't go south, *everything* goes south, okay?
Underrated
That's a negative. I'm not doing the paperwork.
Just give me The number to take down and I'll be sure to not call it.
LOL YUP
Lol
Underrated
Trust me being intercepted by a fighter IS the definition of intimidation. But on the plus side you get a pretty good free air show up close, real close, and personal.
And you get to have a first hand experience at their weapons systems too
@@staitz2728 after a headbutt. That usually gets one's attention and gains compliance. It is the definition of intimidation. Used to fly the targets where they practiced this.
I bet the airshow ain't free once you land though :P
@@Naxima18 luckly I only experienced it flying the practice target. I am sure if it was for real one would have to answer hard questions with big fines attached.
I sure as hell would not want to be intercepted by a fighter jet in a civvie plane, those things are scary when they're close (the jets, I mean). Pretty sure I'd be flying direct to the South Pole if I was the poor guy who wandered into restricted airspace without knowing it
They called this "The Great Southern Aircraft Migration". When all aircraft started heading south.
Well, we weren’t told we would be “fired upon”, but my dad and I were flying to Reno for an air show one year and we were contacted by tower and told to alter our course. Apparently there was a little demonstration we were about to fly over on our original route. Nothing major..... just high altitude rocket tests...... 😂
We were in our Cessna-172.
They wouldn’t need to fire upon you lol
That would punch one hell of a hole through your plane, or what was left of your plane.
"Cessna-172 vector literally any other direction or the rockets might get you"
The video was great until you decided to stop the recording after the USAF gave the warning. No conclusion of the story. Disappointing.
Yeah!
He didn't get a chance to reply because he was immediately shot out of the sky.
Exactly....missing the best part of it all
Some say that the rogue pilot is being held at Area 51
I was waiting for the drama.
Legend has it the Cessna is still vectoring south to this day.
He's gone so far South he's going North again.
I imagine Air Force one is lien this to atc “requesting clearance to a lower altitude” ATC “sure what ever you want buddy u got it” 😂
AF1 doesn’t give read backs, they will do whatever they want
@@afwaller noticed that too😂
Must be nice
AF1: I want to go down.
ATC: Sure thing AF1
*Also ATC*: You there! GTFO the way!
when your boss is on the plane, you’d do whatever is requested too!
It's polite to ask, so they do. It also gives ATC a chance to know what they are doing and divert everyone else so the ATC doesn't vector someone into a pissing match with the air force by accident.
"Say again?"
(sound of shotgun being pumped)
"OK, OK, vector south! Jeeeeee-zuh!"
no pumping, just a warning burst from the canon on them
No shotgun sound just "BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT*
@@galil_6863 hehe, USAF go brrrrrrrrt
@@galil_6863 do you know how much money it costs for just a one BRR ?...
"I'm sorry, could you repeat that for me ?"
*sonic booms in the distance*
"OKAY OKAY VECTOR SOUTH I'M ON IT"
That's the funny thing about sonic booms: If you can hear them, whatever is making them is headed for someplace else in a big damn hurry.
Specifically, a someplace else *that you aren't near*, or you wouldn't be hearing the boom at all.
Yep, especially if it's F-15s with a top speed of over Mach 2.
@@Tindometari
Yeah, I was gonna say. You'd feel the impact of munitions hitting your craft before you heard that sonic boom.
there wouldn't be sonic booms in the distance ... the F-18's would be on your first since to create the sonic booms, they have to flying faster than the sound anyways.
Honestly fuck it, im pretty sure this shit is illegal or something but just do a supersonic pass next to the cessna. That would make them turn south.
This happens more often than you may imagine. During the Bush years I was an army controller working out of Gray army airfield at Fort Hood (not the other one) which was within the crawford TFR. Every ATC facility whose airspace AF1 would traverse had to be on a conference call. So we heard everything and it was insane. There was constantly some aircraft that wasn't talking to ATC who was being closely watched.
I have heard that a medivac flight is the only thing that can bump AF1 from airspace.
@@TravisWBurton Well I guess in practice yeah because who wouldn't let a Medevac through , in theory though my understanding is that no the Medevac doesn't actually have priority even over civilian planes, actually the only scenario where a plane would have priority over Air Force 1 ( and this is only for US Airspace btw ) is in case of an actual in air emergency but then why would that plane be in the No fly zone to begin with ...
@@TravisWBurton it’s in the rulebook that the ATCs have to follow. no joke: top priority is emergency situations, then medivac, then search and rescue, then AF1. as much as they like to act like they’re the top dogs of all flights, AF1 is trumped by those three so s/he has to wait until the path is clear.
Secret Service might whine, but they’d complain about anything that they can’t control
@@TravisWBurton somehow I think during the dark period of the last 4 years that wasn't the case. Sociopaths have no empathy
@@timothy4664 No worries anymore. We got $8 gas now.
Air Force one is so relaxed with all the calls. Doesn’t even repeat back the runway number, just says “cleared to land”
To be fair, they're the only one using any of the runways 🤷♂️
The whole airspace is empty except for AF1, they can land where they want at that point.
When AF one is in the airspace of the airport, the airport is essentially closed and it's airspace is off limits to all other traffic. They do not explain it, they just refuse to grant permission to incoming aircraft. Anyone on inbound is sent off on a missed approach or hold in place if far enough out still.
@@30K_ACTUAL actually ... AF1 and a Cessna pilot who last I heard was requesting the first mate bring their brown pants.
@@avi8r66 what happens if an aircraft declares emergency? Would they take precedence over AF1?
I was on a flight to Bali from Singapore. We were on final and almost on the ground when the engines roared and we were up in a steep climb. Captain stated VIP was on approach directly behind us and we had to go-around. We parked right beside AF1. Obama was attending the APEC meeting. We used ground stairs to a waiting bus. Nobody got on the bus. Everyone just walked around the bus and took pics. AF1 was beautiful. Elves must clean and polish it while it's inflight. LOL!
In SoCal airspace once heard ATC ask AF-1 to circle and hold for traffic. AF-1 replied “Son, this is AF-1 we do not circle and hold for traffic.” Immeadiately another likely more senior ATC voice cleared AF-1 for approach and landing at LAX...
@@rhensontollhouse I have heard that a medivac flight is the only thing that can bump AF1 from airspace.
@@rhensontollhouse cant find any relevant recording for this incidence. May be they have kept this as a private affair.
@@TravisWBurton or a flight declaring emergency
@@solomontan1524 There isnt because it never happened.
Flight school and traffic control 101 is AF1 is God. Only medical can over ride AF1 and AF1 would know beforehand
I can just imagine all of the air traffic controllers turning to look at each other with the "Oh shit" look on their faces.
The controllers’ bosses: *F I R E D!*
@@elweewutroone not their fault, the video didn’t have the initial warnings to the pilot from the controllers that prompted the military response...
Unheard later: "Fox two."
That'd be a major waste for a cessna. Just use guns or make a really close high speed pass...
@@magicstix0r what if someone on the Cessna had a MANPAD?
@@Christerray Have you ever seen a MANPAD or the inside of a Cessna?
A stinger missile would barely fit in the cockpit if at all, and would kill everyone inside the Cessna if they tried to shoot it...
If they had a MANPAD it'd be far more effective to shoot it from the ground.
@@magicstix0r oh just saw off the barrel
@@magicstix0r seems legit haha 😆:::: splash 1!!!
To put in more perspective: It's using the callsign "Air Force One" meaning the President IS on board, so yah, they'll take that seriously.
...err..... yeah, we all know that. Did you think you were smart and educating us about the presidential call sign?
@@droge192 i did not know that
Fly high UnknownCessna
A few years ago a jetliner going from Atlanta to Reagan National in Washington was handed over from ATC Northern Virginia to ATC Reagan National. The ATCs did it right but the jetliner never contacted Reagan National. Almost 10 minutes later they radioed in and apologize for getting the frequency wrong. At that point ATC Reagan National informed them that at any second a pair of F-16s out of Andrews will be with them one to the port and one behind. They were advised to exactly mimic the motions of the one to the port or the one behind will shoot them down. Moral of the story: pay freaking attention!😂
That would be a bummer with an airliner full of passengers, and hopefully not over a city.
Eh. I’ve been NORDO a lot and they never scramble on me
@@jakeski3142 Have you been so over Washington?
I'd b havg ❤️ failure that would solve it
Just once, I want to hear an ATC recording of a pilot responding after wandering into a TFR/Restricted Air Space say “ I’m trying to reach Lando Calrissian”
that made me smile
Just when we thought "I have a number for you to copy" was the worst that could happen
What does this mean? I’m clueless
Lol that’s funny
@malik when small planes no or any plant really enters a major airport,, cross traffic, descend or deviate without clearance the control tower tells them they have to call this number usually it’s bad news for them, especially if they don’t listen on the first warning
"You'll be lucky if you can still copy a number"
This and a story my dad told me from one of his buddies who flown for the Air Force (dad’s army), both show that military aircraft is terrifying, but the story my dad told me was this:
A bunch of foreign pilots in fighter jets were flying where they weren’t suppose to, but my dad’s buddy was in a stealth aircraft flying above them, the foreign air crafts couldn’t detect them, but they continued flying into restricted territory until finally my dad’s buddy said over the radio: “Turn Around and go home, I can see you” very creepily as well, the foreign pilots kept looking around in their cockpits and straight up U-Turned and booked it out of the territory, then he came onto the radio with “don’t ever come back”.
Reminds me of the story of the F22 that intercepted an Iranian F-4, checked their weapons loadout without being detected before pulling up on their wing . The F-4 turned away very quickly.
Sounds more like a helicopter story...how are you going to talk to the enemy in a plane and the enemy look up at you?
@@tazdev18 Sounds a lot like the F-22 intercept of an Iranian F-4 Phantom
@@tazdev18
The cockpit is designed for you to be able to look up
Because I was inverted. No he was man. It was really cool.
The detail that the aircraft is "squawking 1200 in mode 3" just means that the pilot is on visual flight rules (VFR) and has not been assigned a specific transponder code by air traffic control. The people suggesting that a number of planes might all start heading south reflects this, unless they realized the location is not referring to them.
Fighter Pilot: "Vector south immediately or you may be fired upon"
Cessna: "I'd like to talk to your manager!"
Vector north and I will arrange it.
Not today Karen
Fighter Pilot: "Here's a number you can call taped to this missile. Eagle 2 Fox 2"
Hey, even Airforce One is required to read back assigned levels.
Nah. Just a courtesy
@@matthew9677 BS. As a 20-year ATC, nobody is exempt.
No point in saying “But, it was Airforce One!” if you’re talking to St Peter.
@@petergosney6433 apologies. I forgot to add lol or 🤣 on the end.
@@matthew9677 🤣😎
I live near Site R and Camp David, north of D.C.. It is restricted airspace and every once in a while a small plane will fly over the mountain and it's like the military jets appear out of nowhere. I'm sure they're flying around every day just waiting for someone to mess up.
Amazing that they all just happened to be off playing war games on 9/11
@@oceanecastelnau9821 Andrews always had fighters in the air around DC long before 9/11
lots of Cessna carcass on the ground up there......
So what your saying is there is psychopathic pilots waiting for a chance to kill someone... Good to know that top to bottom there is insane people in this country
"Vector south or be fired upon."
Cessna: "hows about you vector north i got a bb gun in here"
F35 Pilot: "A bb gun? That's cute. FOX 3!"
Intercept flight, we have confirmation bogey is armed.
You are cleared hot.
a F-35-A's worst enemy- a bb gun!!
Hmmm... I don’t get treated like this every time I play as a generic 747 with call sign “AirForce1” in FSX
Interesting i wouldnt know why
Try SAM 28000
"Yeah, well...go home and pick up an F-22 and come back...and then we'll talk about vectoring, Scooter."
I spent 20 years has a central Texas peace officer. One of my jobs was to guard the president's gate when he was in the Crawford White House during the President Bush administration. One of the local crop duster pilots had a beautiful stearman.on the 13th or 14th of September right after the terrorist attack he decided he wanted to go fly his stearman about. This was during the Nationwide ground stop. He had been flying about 5 or 10 minutes when to f-18s out of fort Worth come screaming by him.they're contacting him on the radio and all of that and he chops his AirSpeed down to about 80 miles an hour.they're ordering him to the ground and he's playing coy because he's got an open cockpit and he tells him he can't hear them because of the are noise.II pilot told him if you don't land that aircraft immediately I'm going to blow you out of the..... Landing immediately was his IMMEDIATE ANSWER! believe it or not he got out of trouble by plain stupid that he didn't know the entire airspace of the entire country was shut down.
where did he take off that none ATC said him the airspace was closed?
jomanaitor in a crop duster? Are you serious. Probably his back paddock, Private air strip, His farm driveway. He’s flying vfr and is endorsed to be under 500 feet so he could basically do what ever he wants in uncontrolled airspace whenever he wants apart from that very time in history.
We had a plane get too close to Air Force 1 here a few years ago, and an Air Force fighter flew over him and shot off about 20 flares on top of him. He got the message.
@@jomanaitor some runways don't have towers. Some planes don't need runways. Some Texans dont give a fuck
There were exceptions to the airspace restrictions. I saw air ambulance helicopters flying around Seattle on 9/12/01.
"This is what YOU'RE going to HEAR...."
A story goes, back in the day of the Hustler bomber,1950's, 60's, there was a training exercise on the west coast. Everybody and every plane our Air Force had in the area was in on it. This one, lone delta wing bomber was cruising along flying relaxed, no rush. As the other planes were closing in they were about to call it a win for them. The Hustler pilot asked if they all had him cold, they said yes they did.
The Hustler said, "Good. Bye.". He dropped altitude down to the carpet, hit HIS engines afterburners and all. And disappeared! From sight and off radar! Seems it was built to pop up over one horizon, run in, drop a nuclear payload of bombs accurately and run away to dip below the other horizon.
In nine seconds.
Nine seconds!
If it ain't true, it ought to be.
Cool story Pops
@@deaddog21 Thanks Sonny.
I was driving wrecker on the flight line (perimeter road) on an AFB in Indiana watching a B-58 take off........it reached an altitude of about 40 feet....did a roll, and as its landing gear retracted, it slowly (it seemed) sank back down into the runway at full afterburner.....on its back.......the crew didnt have a chance........nice plane, but it was not very safe to fly.....flight controls problems....
@@mikedee8876 Must be why we don't have any anymore.
@@oldman4021 it suffered many accidents....its speckled record is available online....I believe a few are on display....but will never fly again......I trust.
Flying with dad in 1970s Charter flight. We strayed into controlled airspace at Melbourne. The same style command voice from traffic control made it quite certain of the mistake. No fighter jets but DCA put Dad on full SAR for rest of flight! No more mistakes on navigation. Did not loose licence. Melbourne Airport Victoria.
SAR?
Cessna: Pfftt, those F-35 can't even lock me.
GAU-22/A: I have yet to meet plane that can outsmart bullet.
I remember a bar room chat with the pilot of an Australian Air Force F18. It was suggested that trying to lock a C172 would be like a C172 trying to lock on to a pigeon. The F18 jockey just said, "We wouldn't worry about the plane, we could lock the pigeon".
You bet they can. A Cessna engine still gets hot, it's powered by explosions too.
Training for my pilot license in my Grumman Traveler with an instructor we finished up in a practice area at 1,500 ft AGL. Instructor called in to ATC Fresno to advise inbound to land. Just then we heard high pitched pinging faster and ever louder screaming in our headsets. ATC “Gruman 626L 2 F-16s at 6 O’Clock passing left and under.” The F-16s loaded with missiles from patrol roared maybe 500 ft to our left and under us then climbed, rolled, were gone to land way ahead of us. Instructor asked me “Now how do you feel about fire-control radar locking on to you?”
@@danielsieker9927 even old F-16s have radar which can see a Cessna from many miles away. Even if Cessna is flying just above the ground.
When you to try land in your Cessna and see air force one with an escort of F-35's: Well guess I'll die?
Legend has it he still hasn’t vectored south.
in your legend hes fuckin dead
He vectored straight down a few seconds later
Ded
@@Andrew..J THAT MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD
The only flight that doesn’t give way is an Angel Flight. That’s the flight bringing home the bodies of American heroes.
I think there's a list of aircraft that AF1 has to hold for. You are correct. Angel flights are one of them. Medevacs and short span donor organs as well. I heard con-air was on the list as well but that sounds like a myth.
Angel Flight is not just flights "bringing back the bodies of American heroes" - it's any flight certified as a medical emergency. It could be someone who's been in a RTA, or a child traveling for an urgent transplant, not just people who chose to go to war in other countries, then paid the price.
Lifeguard flights (also known as air ambulance) have priority over all other air traffic.
@@pratyush270395 My guess is Con-Air wouldn't be flying in the vicinity of AF1. Not really hard to just change flight schedules at the last minute
Wrong. The number one priority over all other aircraft are Emergency aircraft.
"This is what you going to here"
My brain had a stroke trying to read that
English isn't my first language, please be generous :) Will double check next time! Thank you for your feedback.
@@blackbox6197 Wasn't trying to be harsh just funny lol
Interesting, never heard a controller refer to AF1 as "Air Force One Heavy". There's an FAA order that specifically states "When in radio communications with “Air Force One” or “Air Force Two,” do not add the heavy designator to the call sign. State only the call sign “Air Force One/Two” regardless of the type aircraft."
RIP - Fly high unknown cessna pilot
💔😂
Never forget
F
When every aircraft within the airspace vector south.
One guy in a wingsuit: **vectors north**
I see you everywhere
@@probecteus3048 "eagle twenty, Fox three".
Well that escalated quickly, somebody didn’t check their NOTAM’s. Just stay out of the TFR, lol
Wow, I didn't know NOTAM's are also used for that. The only NOTAM's I hear about are whenever DRDO or the Armed Forces decide to do a missile test or whenever ISRO launches a rocket to space.
@William Yeager Thanks for that. But it only seems to report on American NOTAMs. I am more interested in NOTAMs from Balasore or Sriharikota or the seas around those areas
@@death_parade Notams are issued for a large number of reasons..... for VVIP movmnt, any work going on at airport, unserviceability of any landing or navigational equipment or service etc.. not only for isro, drdo work. Notams will be issued for any incident, change or issue that will affect the normal operation of a flight
@@deepakm3668 Thanks for the info :)
So…. The real question. Who would win? Spicy Air Force bois, or even spicier Steven piloting the Cessna N731NR that wants to argue over Bravo airspace clearance with Las Vegas ATC? 🤔
USAF - "vector south immediately"
1NR - "No, I've been talking to you this whole time!"
I watched one video like this one and my whole recommendation page is full of videos like this XD I'm not complaining..
Fun fact: the United States Air Force has NEVER, and I mean: NEVER fired in aggression at another aircraft flying over US Airspace.
That just means there wasn't ever a pilot ballsy or stupid enough to not comply with them lmao
Key words. US airspace
yet
A fighter pilot did have permission directly from GW Bush to fire on airliner heading towards cleveland on 9/11. The pilot opted to hold fire based on what he could see in the aircraft. People seemed to be acting normal. Turns out the plane had a radio issue. A few more pilots were ordered to NYC with their unarmed jets since they were already in the air for practice. They were told they may need to slam their jets into another aircraft if anything else came in needing taken down prior to aimed jets arriving. Of course they would eject prior to impact....
Well there was that whole Pearl Harbour thing. Only 6 planes got up in the air, but presumably they were firing.
*"This is what you going to hear when you fly around by Air Force One"*
Yeah, i was about to take my Honda Civic and fly around Air Force One this weekend, i hope it's a good weather
There honestly comes a point where you say "fuck it, I'm landing at my alternate." AF1 entering the AO is most definitely past that point
Lincoln: come in buddy, head me in the shot if you like
Modern president: sir there’s a Cessna 150 miles away, shall we fire the C-RAM?
The 982 dislikes are the planes that where told to vector south 😂😂
Fighter Pilot: "Vector south immediately or you may be fired upon"
Cessna Pilot: "May I see some identification, like a military id"
Remember the scene from "My Fellow Americans", where the INS helicopter wanted some identification from the Military helicopter?
th-cam.com/video/9HaEgXeTkE0/w-d-xo.html (2:20)
Love listenening to Air Force One on freq and all of the juice that comes with it !
✈🛩 ✌☮ 🇺🇸🌎
AIRFORCE 1 GANG
“Vector south immediately or you may be fired upon”
my response on the radio would have been: “meow”
SKY KING be like...." aww man , I'm not a pilot I dunno what that means!" ..." I wasn't actually planning on landing it"
United States Air Force aircraft: "Too close for missiles, going to guns."
Air Force 1, descend and maintain 14000
AF1: Bring 14000 to me.
Everybody gangsta till Cessna engages a dogfight against two F35
There were over 50 + intercepts when AF1 would come to PSP. It just amazes me how many pilots either ignore the TFRs or don't read them. Amazed, not surprised! lol.
That's exactly it. Pilots ignore TFRs.
So did the unresponsive aircraft respond finally and/or went 180, or did it get shot down?
0:01 What I'm going to "here"? 🤦♂️
You think they would have found somebody who could spell or proofread what was written.
@Fester Smyth No
@@TexasDog3 ikr
Military guys do not joke they do what they say
"Thanks" is not a correct response to a descend and maintain instruction from atc.
He can just do it without letting ATC know, it's just a courtesy
@@julienrooknizan5711 um you ever heard of a readback? It is mandatory.
@@mizzyroro not to Air Force one. They have right of way, atc just make sure no one get in a passing match with the Air Force
@@julienrooknizan5711 you just can't make stuff up buddy. In US airspace the presidential family of aircraft all come under the control of civilian air traffic control which is governed by the FAA. Controllers are required to ensure that all aircraft readback instructions and that the readback is correct. While ATC affords the presidential family of aircraft the courtesy of priority, they do not have right of way as you indicated and must remain unde the control of air traffic control as far as is safe for them to do so.
So air force one takes the gear down at 10’000 feet?
Rumor has it the pilot was Doug Masters in his Cessna 172. No way was he gonna miss his opportunity to fly The Snake.
Iron Eagle for the win!
Imagine going for a little joy ride, it's a beautiful day for VFR. You got no idea ATC has been trying to contact you, you look to the side hoping to catch a glance of some nice scenery, and all you find is a flying god of destruction. Guy must've shit his pants lmao.
He is going to vector south either voluntarily or in flames....
Aww, I wanted to see a cessna dodging and weaving around will getting shot at!! 🤣 First Cessna/F35 dog fight!
What is even MORE frightening is what we are about to "here". That's just sad..........
@cattey Auto-COLLECT? 😆 Auto-CORRECT didn't cause "this is what you going..."
@@Dana_Danarosana I think &cattey was making a joke.
So......what happened? Did they shoot down the Cessna? Mediocre video, made a bit worse by the misspelled words.
Doubt it. It probably just landed at a nearby airfield, got questioned by police and sent on their way.
@@spencerbrown3875 darn I wanted it shot down I mean no harm to the one driving the plane but I wanted an explosion!
@@IsraelCountryCube go for some fireworks :)
That and also almost none of the ATC comms was with KRNO tower. It was with NorCal approach I think
Probably a patched together audio fake
RIP to that aircraft squawking 1200.
USAF: you will be fired upon
Cessna: New phone who this?
Did that airforce one pilot feel to cool to properly respond to the ATC instructions?
Typical douchebag behavior tbh.
"Well I'd sure hate to be the guy squawking 1200 right now, hey what's my squawk code?"
I think the most interesting thing about this recording is that Air Force 1 doesn't give a fuck about giving any readbacks.
And ATC doesn't chase those readbacks!!!
Cause in the air forces eyes, the FAA listens to them not the other way around
In Soviet America, aircraft control YOU!
For a time I watched a lot of videos with ATC recordings (mostly from JFK I think). From that I got the impression that complete readbacks only get used when there seems to be a real risk of misunderstanding. So there might be a lot of trust between ATC and the AF1 pilot (as well as no risk of collision with other aircraft), and thus they only bother with the minimum information exchange needed.
ATC: "AF1 would you please read back?"
AF1: "If you don't get off my back you'll be fired upon."
That radio warning is all you’re getting. The next step is you exploding without warning from a weapon fired by an aircraft you never saw.
Legend has it the navigation system on the cessna is still going for the south pole
My boss broke down when this happened on the freeway near the airport. Cops showed up yelling at him HR had to move the president was landing!
He said he did not give a duck who was landing his car was not moving!
They called him a tow truck!
Must of been Randy Quaid up there flying his crop duster drunk again!!!!!!😂🤣🤪
Or Harrison Ford trying to crash his rig again.
My Air Force One Royal 🇺🇲 Forever 24/7
You get the same response flying over the Bush ranch in Texas just outside Crawford, Texas.
what a waste of money that is.. war criminals should be in prison.
@Steve Wolcott forgot JFK.
Fly direct above the single engine not responding, and go nose to the clouds with full after burner. That’ll teach them a lesson..
One of my biggest fears as a student pilot is being somewhere i shouldnt by accident
0:12 It's "descent at own discretion" I think
Also why "Gears down" is heard?
I don't think I'd be a cool enough ATC to respond to Air Force One without stuttering or tripping over my words.
It is the same job all day every day.
Air Force One could request to do a barrel roll at 10,000 over Manhattan and ATC would respond “Affirmative, Thank You Air Force One” 😂
My. That was chilling hearing it on the iPad in the living room.
I could not "Here" anything, but I could "Hear" the audio. 😂
In your opening graphic you spelled hear wrong.
Thank God the video stopped otherwise that Cessna might have got shot down
Harrison Ford finally responded saying,"But I'm flying Air Force One! Didn't you see my movie?"
Man there were a few typos here😂
Imagine opening fire on a Cessna because they couldn’t hear you though.
“Vector south immediately or you may be fired upon”.
Cessna: “trust me bro”