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  • @lucaas
    @lucaas  ปีที่แล้ว +208

    A new video concept, please let me know your thoughts!
    And Christmas sweaters are now available at theaviationcentral.com/ -- get yours today!

    • @ReiZru
      @ReiZru ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Nice video, love the idea!
      One thought: specify the flight numbers instead of «Pilot» and «Other pilot» in subtitles. It's confusing, because there are two pilots on the one plane :-)

    • @BlueStratDude
      @BlueStratDude ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love this concept and would welcome more videos like this. Thanks @lucaas!

    • @axeld2594
      @axeld2594 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I want to be a pilot and this type of videos is very helpful and instructive, and it's also a good way to get used to the sound, a little difficult to understand sometimes

    • @cptkirkpyro5656
      @cptkirkpyro5656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hands down the best video format. maybe do a mix of the 2 types.

    • @InfiniX0001
      @InfiniX0001 ปีที่แล้ว

      W video

  • @ryabow
    @ryabow 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1762

    "speed is... that doesn't look good." are truly words i never want to hear a pilot say.

    • @UTTPPOLICEOFFICAL
      @UTTPPOLICEOFFICAL 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      872 likes and 0 reply’s? Let me fix that

    • @ryabow
      @ryabow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@UTTPPOLICEOFFICAL i appreciate you

    • @UTTPPOLICEOFFICAL
      @UTTPPOLICEOFFICAL 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@ryabow I don’t appreciate myself

    • @KinjiUrba
      @KinjiUrba 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@UTTPPOLICEOFFICAL I appreciate you both!

    • @c0r1nth14n_
      @c0r1nth14n_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      So happy to hear they made it! But yeah she keeeeeps on talking.

  • @Chuck59ish
    @Chuck59ish ปีที่แล้ว +1949

    Those were scary, but the training and the professional calmness of both air and tower crew kicked in and did it's job. Well done to everyone involved.

    • @GigsTaggart
      @GigsTaggart ปีที่แล้ว

      hoonolulu sucked, kept stepping on people

    • @marktrain9498
      @marktrain9498 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well, the tower crew did well, anyway.

    • @Extraterrestrial-With-A-Finger
      @Extraterrestrial-With-A-Finger ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm not a pilot & I'm not going to pretend like I know what I'm talking about but on the last one when the pilots lost pressure made me think that there was crucial time lost when the Tower/ATC communicated with the pilots.
      For example, when the ATC did multiple "Filled Pauses".
      ie. "Um" @ 13:16 & 13:33
      I'm wondering if because the ATC's training & experience to stay calm could hinder communications? When done correctly elevated stress especially in emergencies can greatly benefit your ability to comprehend logistics & surrounding environments.🤷‍♂️
      *** I understand that the time between the ATC & Pilot communications to each other isn't real world. So because of this there is definitely a strong argument that it wouldn't have mattered. At least in this scenario...

    • @Chuck59ish
      @Chuck59ish ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Extraterrestrial-With-A-Finger You have to remember that both the Tower and aircrew have check lists they have to go through when any incident happens and the tower is trying to get information to pass on to Emergency services, so a lot is happening on both ends at the same time, luckily other aircraft in the area saw the aircraft go down close to land and the Coast Guard were in the area.

    • @Extraterrestrial-With-A-Finger
      @Extraterrestrial-With-A-Finger ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Chuck59ish Yeah I can only imagine...
      I'll tell you this much. I'm completely comfortable with letting the pilots & ATC worry about all that stuff. I get nervous when I'm sitting in the emergency aisle. I feel like I'm going to forget the extra procedures.😏
      That's not really saying much though because I can't even remember what I ate for breakfast the other day.😁

  • @ElliottRodgers
    @ElliottRodgers 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +339

    Rhoades 810 being told cleared for any runway and then requesting coastguuard gave me goose bumps!

    • @dfuher968
      @dfuher968 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      So did how many times they had to tell ATC, they were in an emergency, b4 ATC finally listened.

    • @timarc9895
      @timarc9895 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that ATC was only using her training, no thoughts head empty type scenario. I'm glad the pilots and passenger are okay.

  • @sonicbhoc
    @sonicbhoc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +556

    I like that the guys assisting American 329 actually said "get back to me when your workload decreases" instead of just pestering the pilots.

    • @LightsaberGoBrrrrrr
      @LightsaberGoBrrrrrr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      They’re trained to do that.

    • @AgentVamp
      @AgentVamp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr But you don't hear about it often, that's the point sonic's getting at, so it's a nice surprise.

    • @jordanmiles2195
      @jordanmiles2195 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I wish my boss would say that

    • @efulmer8675
      @efulmer8675 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A common issue with pilots in unexpected situations is that they reach whats called "task saturation" where they are unable to add or change any workload because the load involved in flying the plane is reaching or beyond their ability to respond to new input. ATC and pilots are taught how to handle this situation but ATC has no real way of understanding what that limit is.

  • @1964mm
    @1964mm ปีที่แล้ว +991

    The most unfortunate part of the Rhoades 810 ditching is that they misdiagnosed Engine 1 as the failed engine when it was actually Engine 2. So, they shut down the good engine instead of the bad one.

    • @alisonwilson9749
      @alisonwilson9749 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Like Kegworth...

    • @Shinka666
      @Shinka666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +145

      Thank you for posting this I was actually curious because I know those planes are capable of flying and maintaining altitude with just 1 engine but obviously turning a jet into a glider is not going to maintain anything.

    • @ryanyoung7433
      @ryanyoung7433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Like, why dont they just restart it lul

    • @Shinka666
      @Shinka666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      @@ryanyoung7433 From my understanding the APU has to be activated for at least 3 minutes prior to trying to start engine, so shutting off the wrong engine turned the plane from something that probably could have made it into something that had no chance.

    • @JoeCali12
      @JoeCali12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Oh man, is that true? So they didn't "lose" the second engine, they manually shut it down?

  • @NameyMcNamerson
    @NameyMcNamerson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +315

    Me my first day as air traffic controller: “Sorry bro I can’t understand anything you’re saying. You’re talking way to fast

    • @kadarat8343
      @kadarat8343 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      "slow is smooth. smooth is fast"

    • @Youraverageguy-c4m
      @Youraverageguy-c4m หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Did you get fired

    • @nclsDesign
      @nclsDesign หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kadarat8343 I heard that one last time when we were talking about the clutch in the car LMAO

    • @goodchannel553
      @goodchannel553 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Youraverageguy-c4mITS A JOKE

    • @Ithinkiwill66
      @Ithinkiwill66 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes...sometimes sounds like at a drive-thru 😂

  • @Neodx2
    @Neodx2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +220

    It's amazing how calm these people can be in an endangerment of life

    • @kleetus92
      @kleetus92 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      It's exactly what you need. Going apeshit isn't going to help the situation. Training training training

    • @sephiroth4543
      @sephiroth4543 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kleetus92😂😂😂😂😂

    • @BirdTalk13
      @BirdTalk13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@kleetus92Precisely! Always have confidence in, and rely on your Training.

    • @kleetus92
      @kleetus92 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BirdTalk13 This is true in firefighting as well.

    • @Haihaihaihai7
      @Haihaihaihai7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s almost like that’s what they were trained their whole life to be like

  • @crystallineentity
    @crystallineentity ปีที่แล้ว +537

    More of these please man
    It's fantastic that when it gets super urgent that ATCs can clear everything and just say land any runway, anywhere.

    • @FUMan661
      @FUMan661 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      One word, "Emergency". If you declare one, we will move mountains for you.

    • @josipbagi
      @josipbagi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

      ⁠@@FUMan661Ah, that was the first pilot’s mistake. Didn’t say “emergency”, so the mountain he was about to fly into couldn’t get moved 😂

    • @FUMan661
      @FUMan661 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      ​@@josipbagi exactly. Oh well, live and learn. 🤣

    • @Matthew.images
      @Matthew.images 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@josipbagi plenty of paperwork when you declare emergency 😅

  • @arkfan5345
    @arkfan5345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

    how first guy who landed in water stayed calm through whole thing blows my mind. by looks horrible weather with horrible water. dark. and knowing your doing water landing. (one most dangrous landings you can do) Hats off for how he handled that.

    • @smitty1245
      @smitty1245 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      They both survived. They shut down their good engine by mistake, and pushed the failing one until it died completely.

    • @mushiim8
      @mushiim8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@smitty1245tragic lapse of judgement but glad they made it out ok

  • @DaJermm
    @DaJermm ปีที่แล้ว +124

    The fact that you can hear the master caution alarm blaring in the back is terrifying 13:58

    • @interruptinuse
      @interruptinuse 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      That's the cabin altitude alarm, and it can't be recalled with the master caution button, only with the tiny "Altitude horn cutout" button on the overhead panel next to the pressurization controls.
      ... I may or may not have had to take off in a flight sim with an entry door still open and climb to 10k feet to learn this...

  • @Glen_lastname
    @Glen_lastname ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Both people surviving a water ditching is impressive flying

    • @Glen_lastname
      @Glen_lastname ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I should note all of it is impressive flying, but ditchings don't normally end with a 100% success rate

    • @anacampanita21
      @anacampanita21 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Impressive ditching sure, but it shouldn’t have happened in the first place. They shut down their only good engine after improperly doing the checklist.

  • @parker02311
    @parker02311 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    The ditching off of Oahu was caused because the pilots misidentified the failing engine and shutdown their only working engine, the damaged engine was unable to provide the power needed to return to the airport. Both pilots survived thanks to the effort by the coast guard and local ships.

    • @bonnie3232
      @bonnie3232 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I am so in awe of how calm the controllers and pilots are in these situations. As an RN, staying calm was essential in emergencies. I cannot imagine being in a hurtling airplane!

    • @Jerrynyc424
      @Jerrynyc424 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@bonnie3232yeah me too as a Bronx firemen… we definitely don’t use the word thank you… as a recall.. the first arriving chief at 9/11 went on the air and screamed “ 10-60 send me everything you got” 10-60 is radio code which means major emergency

  • @Jerrynyc424
    @Jerrynyc424 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    As a firemen in da Bronx USA… these pilots are brave and get my total respect… How calm the remained is unbelievable….. knowing the plane was going down into the water….

    • @dareal5401
      @dareal5401 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      thanks for your opinion as a fireman in da bronx usa

  • @vasiovasio
    @vasiovasio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    Wow! The first clip is INSANE!
    She is so, So Calm and Professional!
    If that's me ( and of course that will Never happen) I will SCREAM Non-Stop - RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHTTTTT >>>>>>>

    • @Justicia007
      @Justicia007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      She was fantastic!! Kept it together and spoke very quickly and was able to get all the information across. That was a really tense moment.

  • @emilyau8023
    @emilyau8023 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +521

    Hearing "how many souls on board?" gives me chills.

    • @cynicalbeotch
      @cynicalbeotch 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Curious, I just came across these recordings; why do they say "souls"?

    • @Sarah-kc3fb
      @Sarah-kc3fb 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +131

      @@cynicalbeotch standard aviation talk. Includes all people on board, so passengers and crew.

    • @oobenoob
      @oobenoob 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      In UK we say P.O.B. (persons onboard). I guess in USA they say souls.

    • @gimmeallthebingbong
      @gimmeallthebingbong 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      @@oobenoobwrong. “Souls on board” is a gobal term in aviation.

    • @Melissa-SC73
      @Melissa-SC73 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too.

  • @sugarpoultry
    @sugarpoultry ปีที่แล้ว +318

    These are awesome, lucaas! Hope to see more! Always impressed by how calm the pilots and ATC are in these scary emergencies. Clear signs of *aviate, navigate, and communicate* rules in an emergency, in case others wondered why the pilots didn't respond right away to ATC.

    • @Yes_I_am_a_Pigeon
      @Yes_I_am_a_Pigeon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      111 likes but no comments? lemme fix that

    • @bunglejoy3645
      @bunglejoy3645 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well let's hope that's what it was that they were dealing eith a flight issue , but a quick ATC controller who stayed calm you like to think good but do soon after take off you do have yo think about other intentions either way the ATC controller saved a lot of lives I guess the pilots would have to explain what it was about

    • @Evan-I
      @Evan-I 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lucaas, if I have one request from you though, it’s to PLEASE CHANGE THE VOICE

  • @sloth0jr
    @sloth0jr ปีที่แล้ว +204

    That Hong Kong ATC - cool as ice. Amazing work.

    • @BirdTalk13
      @BirdTalk13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Very!

    • @Kemjisuper
      @Kemjisuper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I bet the ATC was wearing some cool dark shades as well! 😎

    • @thumpertorque_
      @thumpertorque_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If I were the pilot, I'd take her on an Island vacay. 😎😉

  • @enalv6438
    @enalv6438 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Wow, the new video format looks amazing! I really like it! Especially the timelapses of planes and airports!

    • @lucaas
      @lucaas  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I appreciate it!

    • @Folfah
      @Folfah ปีที่แล้ว

      lol furry with stolen google pfp. get your own art, thief

  • @CarsonUitermarkt
    @CarsonUitermarkt ปีที่แล้ว +214

    As for the aircraft with the loss of pressure, the "alarms sounding" in the background was indeed the cabin altitude alarm. I'm sure the controller could immediately tell what the issue was upon hearing that.

    • @Jetpusher
      @Jetpusher ปีที่แล้ว +58

      "Uhhhh 'merican 329 whats yo- *BRR BRR BRR BRR BRR*
      "I see"

    • @gregschmidt62
      @gregschmidt62 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Disagree. When the controller heard the alarm sounding, I'm sure that they could immediately tell that there was a problem - but it's unlikely that they could identify what the specific problem was. An Air Traffic Controller may or may not be a pilot in their spare time, but it's not part of their job requirement to be able to fly. Even if the Controller is a trained pilot, it's extremely unlikely that they're trained in the specific aircraft type that has the problem.

    • @atcJ
      @atcJ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      As a controller, aircraft beeps coming through the mic mean nothing to me, but maybe some controllers with pilot experience would know.

    • @eric55406
      @eric55406 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ATC are usually amazing at their jobs but no they don't all have pilot experience. A colleague of mine previously did tower control for a military airfield and he controlled fast jets and cargo planes and VIP planes but never flew anything.

  • @RobisonRacing68
    @RobisonRacing68 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    That ditching clip was painful with all the interference.

    • @Mash4096
      @Mash4096 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      The "interference" was the Honolulu ATC kept stepping on the pilot's transmissions before he finished his sentences. Sometimes he wasn't even halfway his sentence when ATC started talking over him. Making things very confusing for both sides.

    • @richardeichelberger5031
      @richardeichelberger5031 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Yeah, she was awfully quick on the button. 😳

    • @RadioactiveSherbet
      @RadioactiveSherbet ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@Mash4096 Yeah. The lack radio discipline was jarring.

    • @GovernorRiffRaff
      @GovernorRiffRaff ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I’m just a layman in this so take it with a grain of salt but that pilot was hard to listen to as well.

    • @texas975
      @texas975 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@GovernorRiffRaffyeah because he had a situation in his hands so it's understandable,the woman on the other hand was overstepping for no reason

  • @kiley-qn4xk
    @kiley-qn4xk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Me:* watching scary aircraft conversations *
    TH-cam: * proceeds to show airline adds *

  • @skimmer8774
    @skimmer8774 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I hope the crew of 428 took time to personally thank ATC for saving their lives. Whew . Also great video.

  • @wmxx2000
    @wmxx2000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    2059 - Apparently the off duty pilot was coming down from a bad mushroom trip. He thought he was living a nightmare and tried to crash the plane so he would "wake up."

  • @marcd1981
    @marcd1981 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    The professionalism of the controllers and pilots is very impressive. You could hear a little stress in the controller for the aircraft that landed in the water, but she handled it expertly.
    The thing I was wondering, especially in the first two incidents, was why were the radios so garbled if they just took off from the airport they were communicating with? It would seem being that close, the transmission would be much better.

    • @krostouin
      @krostouin ปีที่แล้ว +64

      I don't even understand how pilots are able to talk on radio. Between the quality of the signal and fast unarticulated english, I can barely catch half the words.

    • @ma9x795
      @ma9x795 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@krostouin You get an ear for it with a bit of practice. Usually you're expecting a certain type of information in a certain format so that helps too.

    • @kuebbisch
      @kuebbisch ปีที่แล้ว +60

      The audio was most likely received and published on LiveATC by volunteers nearby but with inferior equipment like a VHF scanner and short antennas placed on a house, not on a tower. These aren't the official audio tapes recorded by ATC. Pilots and ATC would have better reception.

    • @StevePorter_au
      @StevePorter_au ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I suspect the Hawaii one was due to someone else trying to transmit at the same time. T2 said he was trying to contact tower, could have been him.

    • @marcd1981
      @marcd1981 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@krostouin I was thinking about that as well. They do get used to their "language" of ATC - Pilot talk after enough experience, but in some foreign countries, it still has to be difficult.

  • @jayvardhanbhaskar7486
    @jayvardhanbhaskar7486 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The off - duty pilot incident has been covered in detail by @Mentour Pilot on youtube.. Highly recommend it for understanding why he tried to shut the engines off.. (For those who are interested)... Overall a great video man... Would like to see more of these...... You my man just earned a subscription.... Keep it up...

  • @shaund9759
    @shaund9759 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Once a threat level 4, it remains a threat level 4 until the person is off the aircraft.

    • @JZillaRageS
      @JZillaRageS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was under the impression its threat level was over 9000

  • @kittehkat-c5l
    @kittehkat-c5l 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i could never be so calm in situations of panic, kudos to them

  • @duikaserver
    @duikaserver ปีที่แล้ว +255

    Don’t think I’ve seen so many blocked calls by a controller…

    • @fabi1074
      @fabi1074 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Honestly it was kind of irritating.. there was no patience or courtesy to each other. They both constantly stepped on eachothers comms without letting the other finish the transmission..

    • @beenthere7962
      @beenthere7962 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Airline Pilot here. Terrible comms between ATC and the pilots.

    • @thekill2509
      @thekill2509 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      That controller needs some serious retraining. The flight declared an emergency, and she still instructed them to turn to V2 and continue outbound TWO MORE TIMES. Clueless.

    • @BirdTalk13
      @BirdTalk13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thekill2509I concur!

    • @danielle_wheels
      @danielle_wheels 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Comms are awful

  • @MildlyFrustrated
    @MildlyFrustrated ปีที่แล้ว +117

    8:29 imagine the situation the pilots faced as their plane is mere meters above the sea

    • @CrossWindsPat
      @CrossWindsPat ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Kept it cool all the way down too.

    • @superhans85
      @superhans85 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yeh and ditching in the dark as well. Terrifying

  • @Mehdi-gp6pq
    @Mehdi-gp6pq ปีที่แล้ว +21

    the rhoades express 810 pilot was so calm as well. Respect !

    • @Mash4096
      @Mash4096 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      he was even calmer than the controller for sure

    • @GovernorRiffRaff
      @GovernorRiffRaff ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe a little too calm lol

  • @annabethwivell327
    @annabethwivell327 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You should do another series of these including FedEx Flight 705 which was an incident in the 1990’s when an off-duty pilot attacked the pilots and tried to hijack the aircraft. The pilots acted heroically to subdue him and eventually succeeded but not without serious injury to all three of them, and to the would-be hijacker. Later all the pilots were awarded a gold medal for heroism. I actually expected the attempted hijacking incident in this video to be FedEx flight 705, but the one in the video was certainly terrifying too, though the outcome was less dramatic as it turned out.

  • @sockjim9016
    @sockjim9016 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I’d heard about the Rhoades Express incident in other videos and from reading about it, so while that clip was playing I slowly started to realize it was that same flight. It was a really cool feeling to have that realization!

  • @glenbearh9109
    @glenbearh9109 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Excellent jon by Rhodes emergency controller. She was upset but stayed cool. Her voice showed great concern

  • @yygamersvs
    @yygamersvs ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Very entertaining! Thank you for this Lucas, much appreciated!

  • @ashegam
    @ashegam ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great format, just wish you would add more color to each situation. You pretty much say everyone was safe and end it. With anticipation so high, it would be nice to hear additional details like the aftermath, cause, etc. rather then the abrupt endings. cheers!

  • @pricesmith1793
    @pricesmith1793 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    feels like some of these narrators have never spoken to a human in their lives

  • @ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut
    @ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hearing "mayday mayday mayday" and then immediate silence, only to hear alarms blaring next would make my pulse go through the roof as ATC lol

  • @nope-z5y
    @nope-z5y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not only do I respect ATCs for the ability to remain calm under pressure, but I also really respect their ability to understand complete mush-mouth pilots.

  • @thijszeilman8810
    @thijszeilman8810 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Communication in the second video is ridiculous. The ATC is constantly talking while the pilot is talking to her….

    • @ryangibb7217
      @ryangibb7217 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agreed I would expect a highly paid air traffic controller to perform better than that!

    • @Bovafett
      @Bovafett ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That was very frustrating, all the blocked radio traffic

    • @Mash4096
      @Mash4096 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      sometimes he wasn't even halfway his sentence when she steps on his transmissions.

  • @TheLastArbiter
    @TheLastArbiter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    That second one in Hawaii seemed like pilot and controller were not very experienced. Either of them should have realized Kalaeloa was probably doable, but she mentioned it way too late. Seems like they could have made it there

  • @albinoguidedog
    @albinoguidedog ปีที่แล้ว +66

    That second atc needs some serious training. She constantly keep stepping on 810.

    • @bunglejoy3645
      @bunglejoy3645 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think they were having trouble hearing her thed got a problem I eould say the e got oxygen masks on why as moo e developed microphones inside pilots and air stewardess oxygen masks wee passengers ideally as well, if I was married and 2as hoping on holiday with loved ones if we know we were going to crash I'd want to say to person I love you etc she sounded ecpasarted I guess she was shocked when plane had gone down in sea, I never heard her say when captain said we've got problems has your oxygen masks come done, if they said yes we'll the ATC could have then said don't go below blah very sad

    • @jnh8381
      @jnh8381 ปีที่แล้ว

      someone call 911, @@bunglejoy3645 is having a stroke!

    • @KomradeDoge
      @KomradeDoge 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bunglejoy3645 the depressurizing plane was different from the one who had ATC stepping on them.

  • @stillthakoolest
    @stillthakoolest ปีที่แล้ว +46

    That Honolulu controller needs to learn to let people finish their transmissions. She was talking over everyone

    • @TheGonkDroid
      @TheGonkDroid ปีที่แล้ว +12

      As a pilot she mad my blood boil

    • @kadarat8343
      @kadarat8343 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      As a controller, I have nothing but respect for that woman. She was under an extreme amount of stress managing an aircraft with inexperienced pilots, calling the emergency vehicles, clearing not one but Both of her runways so that they might have the Opportunity to land safely If they had managed to get close enough, vectoring the distressed aircraft to the other airport, then having to contact that new airport to alert them of the AC coming towards them, not to Mention dealing with the multiple other aircraft on her freqs trying to land/take off. You are not the only plane in the sky bub. Cut her some slack man.

  • @ghostinng274
    @ghostinng274 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "thank you very much" she was being their guardian angel in that moment. Couldn't imagine her horror when they weren't responding.

  • @veinz3401
    @veinz3401 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Tower at Honolulu did a very bad job, they could have asked them if they would prefer to land at Kalaeloa MUCH earlier in their flight.

    • @Su-27-w6m
      @Su-27-w6m 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pilots on flight 810 thought engine 1 was broken when it was the working one

    • @kadarat8343
      @kadarat8343 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Cut her some slack man she had a lot of shit going on behind the scenes trying to call the crash trucks, communicate w/ the rest of the twr, clear her RYs, And vector those two back? It's a lot of phraseology to spit and shit to manage. + Having them land at Kalaeloa so late she'd essentially have to redo a bunch of what she had already done calling the other airport to tell them what is happening would've taken several minutes she didn't have. We're told early in our training 'dont hand off a shit sandwhich' from what I saw I'm bettin' that was what she was trying to avoid. not sayin' she was totally in the right I'm just saying maybe we should be a little bit more compassionate before passing judgement.

    • @Su-27-w6m
      @Su-27-w6m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Its not ATC fault the plane crashed because the pilots thought engine 2 was working fine and that engine 1 is the faulty one when engine 1 was the working one and they increased power to the faulty engine 2 which caused them to ditch

    • @Su-27-w6m
      @Su-27-w6m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      So the crash happened because of pilot error not ATC error

  • @krystleaikens8687
    @krystleaikens8687 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man 😢😢😢...I am so amazed at how pilots stay so calm in these situations 💔😭

  • @KatTheFoxtaur
    @KatTheFoxtaur ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Jeez, Honolulu ATC doesn't like waiting for people to finish talking before interrupting and stepping on them...

    • @Folfah
      @Folfah ปีที่แล้ว

      lool furry

  • @Maan_Arora
    @Maan_Arora ปีที่แล้ว +25

    On the Rhodes Express 810, actually only engine number 2 was lost but they misidentified and instead thought number one was lost which caused this whole thing, if they would have moved both the throttle sticks instead of only the one for the engine 2, they would be able to perfectly land. the pilot who spoke had actually been through 4 engine failures, but he had a lot of respect for the first officer because the first officer hadn’t ever been wrong in anything in front of the captain, that’s why when the first officer said engine 1 was the failed one, the captain went along with it

    • @biosparkles9442
      @biosparkles9442 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      the captain was also distracted talking to ATC, and I'm sure all the stepping didn't help with that

  • @germangallardo
    @germangallardo ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hawaii controller just stepping over and loosing all essential communications. Had a real stress

  • @FlyGuy2000
    @FlyGuy2000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was great Lucaas, really enjoyed it! Thankfully, no on was injured!

  • @lamarpray5324
    @lamarpray5324 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The tower controller handling Rhoades Express 810 was very professional and yet caring and compassionate all at once. Need more people like her in the world

  • @bjornsommer8429
    @bjornsommer8429 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, very entertaining! I'd like to see (hear) more of this stuff. Much appreciated!

  • @Meisha-san
    @Meisha-san ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a selection of incidents!!
    I was on the edge of my seat 😳

  • @donnabella1018
    @donnabella1018 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for sharing. The professionalism and calmness are incredible! I feel I am having panic attacks just by watching the videos…

  • @voiceofjeff
    @voiceofjeff 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Roades 810 video... it's amazing to me that even though ATC and the pilot were very calm, they both seem to have needed more training on how to use a radio. They kept talking over each other, thus NOT getting their transmissions delivered. Stuff like this is what adds more danger on top of al already disaster.

  • @AKsASMRR
    @AKsASMRR ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Flying a plane is like using an etch-a-sketch

  • @Rex08685
    @Rex08685 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ain’t no way I saw my house 😮😮😮😮😮😮 0:50

  • @3rdandlong
    @3rdandlong 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That dude who tried to crash the plane that landed at PDX was about as big a news event as the Horizon ground crew dude who stole the plane several years ago, took off, and eventually crashed near Sea-Tac. But he was mentally off balance anyway.

  • @marcohueber5130
    @marcohueber5130 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The ATC tower of the ditching accident was the worst tower I've ever heard, she kept interfering all the time way before they could finish their speech, she definitely should have waited just 2 seconds more before pushing the button, it would have eliminated literally every single interference...

    • @GovernorRiffRaff
      @GovernorRiffRaff ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They both were interrupting each other. Maybe it’s better to let the pilot talk but he was pretty slow to relay any information and she was way too quick to keep asking.

    • @thekill2509
      @thekill2509 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, she was really bad.

  • @lpr6585
    @lpr6585 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The ditching one, isn't that the one where the pilots mistakenly shut down the wrong engine ?

  • @kashsres1064
    @kashsres1064 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I don’t understand why that honolulu atc kept that flight 810 on hold when he wanted to come back and land beside one of his engine was out already. That’s an emergency and she told him to maintain at 2k feet. When she cleared everything up for them it was clearly too late.

    • @kadarat8343
      @kadarat8343 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      it's more complicated than that. She was probably on the crash phone alerting the trucks of the AC in distress + waving off who knows how many other aircraft trying to land so she could get both her RYs clear for him. I'm not saying she was perfect but I think we could all stand to show a bit of compassion.

  • @darrensjames
    @darrensjames ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, Lucaas, that was a brilliantly intense video. Well done on sharing it with us, cheers.

  • @O_79
    @O_79 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    please make more of these, theyre great

  • @judet2992
    @judet2992 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice work from everyone involved.

  • @maciejmusia9680
    @maciejmusia9680 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This format is great, really interesting, but I have one suggestion: please make sure there is a pause between the stories. I didn't even have time to think "OOOFF the pilots survived ditching" and the next story started already. You know, I was "in a moment", a bit emotional... and suddenly next thing starts. I needed a second or two after the last one. But overall this concept is really cool.

    • @lucaas
      @lucaas  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Appreciate the feedback!

    • @sunshineflyer
      @sunshineflyer ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed. The monotonous delivery also makes it difficult. Try separators such as “in another story…”

  • @AlexFlies
    @AlexFlies ปีที่แล้ว +8

    3:06 wow that controller is one of the worst I've heard. I could barely listen to that clip anymore

    • @mobius7089
      @mobius7089 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She was just fine, there was a lot of mutual stepping at the beginning causing the confusion. The steps also occurred at what would normally be a break in the transmission.
      Also, she had significant workload as it seems she's working tower and approach/departure radar ops for some reason.

    • @AlexFlies
      @AlexFlies ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mobius7089 She kept stepping on him, making him repeat transmissions, and couldnt understand anything going on. She did get better towards the end

    • @callummclachlan4771
      @callummclachlan4771 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlexFlies Maybe it was the first time she had an emergency. Of course ATC has to be professional and have the training. But there's still a massive difference between a simulated emergency and a real one, can't imagine anything could prepare you for the real thing. Not justifying some of it, but it's a stressful situation and something you can only really experience for real. Hence why she calmed down towards the end.

  • @JFirn86Q
    @JFirn86Q ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man the Honolulu controller needs to calm down and wait for transmissions to finish. Lots of confusions and missed information because they were trying to fire back so fast. Slow down, it is not JFK and it's an emergency. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.

  • @Alexiosftw
    @Alexiosftw ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The American Airlines comms transcript seemed a little chaotic but given that so much was going on in that cockpit at the time it seemed to be handled pretty well. The alarm sounding is the cabin altitude alarm for the Boeing 737 so it was a pressurization issue.

    • @TheRealYashNotFake
      @TheRealYashNotFake ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't it the exact same alarm as the 737 takeoff config?

    • @Alexiosftw
      @Alexiosftw ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes it is but Boeing likely used the same horn because the two scenarios in which they would sound are very different from each other and would be easy to differentiate which horn signified what based on the stage of flight

  • @douglasfoster2215
    @douglasfoster2215 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The most intense thing you hear someone ask you is how many souls on board. The question must be asked but wow....

  • @speeter6345
    @speeter6345 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Rhoades 810 actually shut down the wrong engine, otherwise, they would've made it

  • @jenesisjones6706
    @jenesisjones6706 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the new concept- edge of the seat stuff! 2 thumbs up!

  • @ArchitectGG
    @ArchitectGG 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Whoever hired the second ATC needs to be fired themselves. And to then have the audacity to give T2 attitude when you've just almost doomed two pilots... despicable.

  • @chickenpoweder
    @chickenpoweder ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well produced video! Visuals were very addicting and satisfying to watch, kudos.

    • @Lee-n2n1t
      @Lee-n2n1t 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They really are addicting! ❤

  • @aaeri2004
    @aaeri2004 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Gosh! ATC almost cut off Rhodes Exp 810 on almost all transmissions, and she isn’t the one with a failed engine and loosing altitude! The crew had to repeat so many transmissions!

    • @christianvr7805
      @christianvr7805 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jesus and God loves everyone so much turn to them before its to late

    • @aaeri2004
      @aaeri2004 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@christianvr7805
      Please keep God and miracles out of aviation please. Are you suggesting God wasn't there for the number of crashes of the Boeing 737 Max, MH370, AF447 etc??

    • @cara.777
      @cara.777 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I don’t understand, she was quick and clear the pilot wasn’t. The whole problem was caused by the first officer and pilot. They had to repeat because they weren’t being clear how is that her fault.

    • @aaeri2004
      @aaeri2004 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cara.777 that controller needs to get some basic training. She stepped on almost all the transmissions made by the pilots, even when they declared an emergency and also when they said they might loose the other engine too..
      That should have jump started her brain to give them the shortest vector possible. As an after thought, she tell them about the other airfield which was just 3 miles off to their left.
      Please compare this transmission with the ATC that handled Capt Sully's emergency. Cheers! 🍺🍺 Safe flights 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @RMBlake007
      @RMBlake007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@aaeri2004 The ATC in Honalulu was not the only radio traffic that was causing the 'blocked' transmissions. The Rhodes Express 809 was also in the air and wanting to land. Some of that traffic caused the interference between 810 and the ATC.

  • @DerangedScout
    @DerangedScout ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This style of video is very entertaining, would love to see more of them :0

  • @MrEngotti
    @MrEngotti 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I’m surprised they can understand each other, the communication between them is so blurry

  • @Mikey__Mike
    @Mikey__Mike ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a serious interesting video! I hate to ask but want to…can we have some more of these type videos too? Thank you much love

  • @shivrajjadeja7678
    @shivrajjadeja7678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i loved this concept vro its very interesting hoping to see more of these videos

  • @SirFloofy001
    @SirFloofy001 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:54 Well if you LET HIM FINISH and NOT TALK OVER HIM maybe he would have heard you the first time!

  • @Creminson
    @Creminson ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Everyone nailed their jobs it's really reassuring to be honest

  • @Roses-b7j
    @Roses-b7j 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The ad I got before this was a laundry machine eating up a shirt…

  • @Totoplok
    @Totoplok ปีที่แล้ว

    Really liked the concept bc you explain a bit more of everything, but it will be good if you continue with the other videos.

  • @jacksonm.6549
    @jacksonm.6549 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watching this after landing from an international flight. I would not have lasted the first 8 minutes if I were preparing for my next flight!

  • @Deion245
    @Deion245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your vids

  • @norgeyu
    @norgeyu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love it, and i hate it... I work at Serbian ATC, technical dep, and i'm one of the guys that plays back the "video situation"... Luckily, in 36 years, personally, i had only one, military accident... BTW, love your work.

  • @WhyuhereE
    @WhyuhereE ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro made the entire intro Rhyme and thought we would notice

  • @ksm1985
    @ksm1985 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a nice change of video. Thanks for that upload. Are you from India? Respect.

    • @amandak.4246
      @amandak.4246 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      he sounds eastern european, not at all indian

  • @CarlosCastaneda-to1oq
    @CarlosCastaneda-to1oq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    83 counts 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that made my day for some reason

  • @skyftermyftari3618
    @skyftermyftari3618 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:10 is creepy tower voice message broke

  • @sint5990
    @sint5990 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:30 “speed is ah…oh…that doesn’t look good” is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard in a not funny situation 😂💀
    Followed quickly by the most sobering moment “RE810, trucks are rolling”, “uh can you tell Coast Guard to; we can’t maintain altitude” 😮😳😳😳

  • @LucyKosaki
    @LucyKosaki 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    despite how unfortunate the misidentification of the lost engine was, props to them for landing an airplane in the water in the dark with no life lost.

  • @sint5990
    @sint5990 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A transmission you never want to hear…”speed is … oh that doesn’t look good at all” 😳

  • @ChiliStyles
    @ChiliStyles ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You think the other Rhoades flight would stop talking on radio so the emergency traffic could talk. Thats so much time wasted.

  • @robaweku1339
    @robaweku1339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This layout and video User Interface Design is well done. All in RT

  • @TheButterZone
    @TheButterZone 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rhoades comms were brutal with all the doubling.

  • @diosmandulas
    @diosmandulas หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even in an emergency they can still joke around 😅 it's crazy

  • @phoenix0153
    @phoenix0153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So what you're saying is that I'm never to fly again, right? Yeah, I'm never flying again.

  • @arthurfrost9004
    @arthurfrost9004 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I never knew they refer to passengers and personnel as souls

    • @DopeyFish
      @DopeyFish ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it's passengers+crew

  • @nachoconqueso1344
    @nachoconqueso1344 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really like this new video concept i hope you continue with it :)

  • @Extraterrestrial-With-A-Finger
    @Extraterrestrial-With-A-Finger ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not a pilot & I'm not going to pretend like I know what I'm talking about but on the last one when the pilots lost pressure made me think that there was crucial time lost when the Tower/ATC communicated with the pilots.
    For example, when the ATC did multiple "Filled Pauses".
    ie. "Um" @ 13:16 & 13:33
    I'm wondering if because the ATC's training & experience to stay calm could hinder communications? When done correctly elevated stress especially in emergencies can greatly benefit your ability to comprehend logistics & surrounding environments.🤷‍♂️
    *** I understand that the time between the ATC & Pilot communications to each other isn't real world. So because of this there is definitely a strong argument that it wouldn't have mattered. At least in this scenario...