I know there was a deleted opening scene from the original that mentioned Triton and Ursula being siblings. There's a very good chance they'll add that into the remake.
I'm personally more angry over Melissa McCarthy being cast as Ursula than whoever is playing Ariel. Disney is going to make Poor Unfortunate Souls into the next "Be Prepared 2019".
apparently, melissa was a drag queen before her career started and the original design for ursula was inspired from a drag queen so that's my justification for tolerating the casting choice
It's because they're committed to make these movies "live action" even though they're 99% CGI in practice, so they compensate by having the CG environments lack any sort of stylisation or artistic touch at all.
I'd take that over, like what someone else mentioned, the realistically-textured-cartoon Jiminy Cricket. It's so much worse to merge the two styles. If Jiminy had been a photorealistic cricket, just with a tiny top hat? Instantly cuter.
Flounder looking like a real fish is the worst thing that could have ever happened with this remake Just learned that Melissa McCarthy is Ursula and I retract my previous statement
The Ariel reveal is the least interesting part of the whole thing. None of the live action remakes have memorable leads. I'm way more interested to see human voices coming from horrifying realistic crab and fish faces, and also whatever cringe-fest Melissa McCarthy is going to bring to Ursula. It's going to be an insane dumpster fire.
We're talking about Flounder, but what about Sebastian? That guy is gonna look like an actual hermit crab, and it's gonna be both the silliest and ugliest thing imaginable.
Ok. I understand that shooting underwater is one of the hardest things to do in movies, not really shooting underwater is fine, but they could’ve tried at least a little more to actually make it look like it’s in the ocean. At the very least, they could’ve made the movie not be lit like a horror movie.
the marketing is gonna be something like "we developed groundbreaking, award winning, reality shattering water physics for the movie" same shit with the lion king.
This is what it looks like in the ocean. It's dark and the colours get really diluted. You're thinking of ten feet down, not hundreds of feet down. They should've just ignored the physics and made it vibrant for Ariel's scenes and dark, diluted for Ursula's scenes.
Alfonso Cuarón shot in freaking space for Gravity almost 10 years ago. What's Disney's justification for not putting effort when they have all the resources in the world? If they're gonna CG every single shot, why not animate the whole damn thing?
The most hilarious thing about the trailer is that you can easily tell she’s sitting in an empty green room and not in real water. James Cameron would have a fit
Even if the actress chosen looked exactly like Ariel from the ‘89 movie, I doubt the movie itself would be much better. The Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin remakes had leads that looked at least somewhat comparable to their animated counterparts, and those movies still sucked.
I think that's what people are calling out. It's very clear that it's "super important" to make CERTAIN characters actually look like themselves (never mind the personalities and such, which a lot of times they ruin to insert their woke propaganda in place of the original characters), whereas they treat other characters like "blank slates who can be replaced by ANYONE", while constantly saying things like, "white people have no culture". It's pretty hard not to see a pattern. They've even recast REAL PEOPLE who were white as black, and fantasy Hitler youth type characters as black, where it clearly makes NO sense. People aren't racist for calling out blatant racism when they treat people of one skin color constantly completely and utterly different than every other skin color. When I play FFVII, I expect Cloud to look like fucking Cloud. If I turn on FFVII, and he's suddenly a Lithuanian woman, I'm not playing that game - and it's not because I hate Lithuanian women, it's because that's not Cloud.
That doesn’t mean don’t try to cast someone that resembles the character. All it did was create more unnecessary hate, a lot of which is directed at the actor for being cast rather than the movie itself. And even after the movie releases, it’s only going to get worse, especially if the movie does end up being pure shit.
And even so, the writing for both leads were still awful. Emma Watson was fine but they autotuned her voice so hard for the songs that it sounds terrible… and Mena Mesud (I butchered the name) didn’t even hold the same charm or charisma that the original Aladdin had
I really hate how people will say this film is bad for being 'woke' when it's really bad for being a cynical cash-grab. I mean, I'm sure that there'll be some clumsy and stupid attempts at being woke, but that won't be the *main* reason the film sucks.
Yea I think they kind of go hand in hand. Disney loves playing both sides so they can get as much money as possible. Censoring their ‘woke’ potions so they can sell more films is wack. Either do it or don’t. It more frustrates me that people give them any credit for stuff like this while their attempts are mostly shallow and insincere.
Let's just cut to the chase, the race of the actor doesn't matter. The movie will suck. It'll have ugly cg, it will ruin the soundtrack, and overcomplicate a beautiful, simple fairytale story. I hope Halley goes on to work in productions with actual artistic merit.
That's actually the crux of it. The race swapping here is mainly a cover by Disney to not only push a racist sociopolitical agenda, but to get in front of bad reviews and press saying "there's a bunch of bigots out there and if you want to trigger them, see our shitty movie". It's called "fan baiting" and Disney has pioneered this crap for at least half a decade now.
Except ofcourse it does. That they look like the way they way you have grown up to know them and how they first where made in the cartoon matters a lot. This isnt Ariel this is just a black mermaid with the same name.
They cast a black girl so that every racist attacks the movie and every dumb superficially progressive dude defends it. Makes it go viral. So it 100% matters as its a cynical ploy to get free advertisement.
It won't even have a simple fairy tale story, apparently this version of Ariel 'don't need no man' so its a new story. Knowing how badly Disney is doing at the writing department its going the be terrible.
Yup. She's literally perfect for playing a mermaid, she can sing and she looks literally gorgeous. I really hope she can play as a mermaid in an actually good film, since I'd love to see a black mermaid starring in her own original story
People like "racists hate this" when in reality people are tired of remakes and, like, the real reason I as a black person hate having characters cast as other races because Hollywood is too lazy to create original black characters. I'm sick of black characters being treated as nothing but "recoloured whites".
Mermaids would probably be countershaded like Sharks, whales, and dolphins imo. Countershading allows marine predators to control the water surface with bidirectional camouflage. For any prey below, the white underbelly blends in with the sunlight from above, while for anything above the dark back allows them to blend in with the darkness of the depths below. So if anything, the little mermaid should have some kind of severe vitiligo.
They should really be bald, mostly armless, and covered in blubber. There's a reason why a lot of fish adapt similar shapes, it's because being human-shaped with hair just creates unnecessary drag. Every mermaid should look like a weird seel-like creature with human body fat for buoyancy or it's scientifically inaccurate. No singing, either. Human speech wouldn't carry like that, only squeals and clicks outside of the human range of hearing. Imagine it: A large seel-like creature floats into frame. The music starts up. It's making a sad face... *whine* "OOOUOOYYYUUU!!! Gakakakakaka... Gyk gyk gyk! Eeeeeeee.... MUUuuUUuuUUUUU?!?!? Gakaka..." *floats up* "Ooo-UUUU! .... Ooo... -UUHH! ... MMUUUUUuuuUUUU????? EE-EEEEE!!!" Standing ovation. Perfect scene. Everyone is cheering and crying. Congrats, Disney, you just won all the Oscars forever. Cinema will never be the same.
i'm starting to think Disney is using black people as shield for criticism and some shallow way of getting attention. Because i see no reason to change it honestly.
@@caleviwin "literally no white people actually f*cking care" you are either delusional, living under a rock, or just blatantly lying. There are countless racists that come out any time a black person is in a major studio movie, claiming it's just pandering, tokenism, etc. The fact that it's a black actress playing a usually white character guarantees plenty of people got their knickers in a twist.
In 1997 a black woman (Brandy) played Cinderella, and a Filipino man (Paolo Montalbán) played the Prince. The filipino prince's parents were a black woman (Whoopi Goldberg) and a white man (Victor Garber). It wasn't considered "woke" because back then we weren't slapping that label on everything featuring someone who wasn't white. It's got an 86% on rotten tomatoes, it's a decent movie. Brandy was great and she is a great singer. These new Disney movies don't have any of the character or thought being put into them as their past movies and I feel like casting is more erecting a shield than any effort to make an actually good movie. Halle Bailey is a great singer. I have no doubt she can do well, but the movie as a whole is going to be a shitshow.
My issue is just Disney saying "inclusion" is their main goal, but at the end of the day, it's just free marketing. It's not inclusive to just take white characters and make them black, this is an American company, you can choose any race. Unfortunately, it wouldn't gather the same amount of free press, so rinse and repeat.
@@anothernobody1804 Because they're projecting the fact that they're the actual snowflakes, by calling people snowflakes. They make their fragilities look obvious these days lol
Thank you for saying this. I’ve been thinking about this ever since Halle been getting all the hate and I’ve been wondering why nobody sees to care about Brandi being Cinderella.
Ariel is suppossed to be at a very intimate moment when she sings that song. She is suppossed to sound vulnerable and nostalgic. In this version she sounds like she is performing for an audience and trying to be heard by everybody. Is not about her feelings and inner wishes anymore, is about her singing.
Its the same shit with Lion King. Why do these actors in these live action remakes need to mess up the pitches and change keys unnecessarily in the songs. Like wtf
Couldn’t have said it better myself! There is so much pain behind that specific line she sings, and I don’t hear any of that in her performance. It’s almost like these kids who sing sad songs on singing competitions, but smile the whole way through because they don’t understand the song.
@@LetsWinWithTim whatever 🙄the director and her cast all said everyone was in tears after hearing her version..there’s plenty emotion displayed in her vocal performance
"It makes me want to watch the original," This is the conclusion I came to after seeing Beauty and the Beast in Theatres, and after that I never wanted to watch a Disney remake again because I just would rather watch the original animated version.
If I remember correctly, the Ghost in the Shell live action movie raised eyebrows because the production company kept releasing promotional material explaining that the characters weren't actually Japanese in the original material (even so far as getting the creator to go "Well she's an android so I guess it's okay"). And then there was the CGI tests to give Scarlett Johansen "Asian eyes". I didn't care at the time cause it seemed like a disastrous cash grab, but it made me wonder why they were going to such lengths to justify their casting decision. On a related note though, when I was younger I tried auditioning for roles that specifically called for Japanese actors. And I'd find out later the positions went to white actors on the grounds of "we went with the most authentic talent" or to a different Asian nationality because "audiences can't tell the difference." So realistically, the lesson here is just that productions will do whatever they think will get them the most profits and then find a way to justify it later if it raises any controversy.
Spoilers - I thought the problem was - if you seen the movie. Character is a Scarlett Johansson looking robot, but in Flashback at the end of the film we learn it has actually a brain of middle age japanese woman. Also if I remember corectly Scarrlet actually plays different character then in anime, she has different name I think. Didn't knew about CGI eyes controversy, that sounds cringe. But it's clear Scarrlet got that role only cause shes a famous name and not many asian actors are.
@@lipgloss675411 they care about making money. If they think being “progressive” will make money, the execs will shoot for that. It sucks when any creative work is hijacked just for profit, regardless of the reason. Though there are some examples of it working out well. To your first point though, the issue is also looking the part. You can pretend to be fat or crippled. You can also dye hair or change eye color. The line usually gets drawn at skin color being something you can change with makeup. Maybe that’s a line that doesn’t need to be there?
@@dramatickesneni It's even more amusing because there is a twist in the film that can be interpreted as a meta element where she was originally a Japanese woman that got changed into a Caucasian by those, evil, evil corporate heads as if that was the plan all along. Sucks because that is an interesting concept, and if I didn't clearly know that was a lame explanation to use a more marketable actor in the west, I'd find it a worthwhile exploration. Even then, it ultimately means little because in the end, after all that effort to find her true self, she suddenly comes to the realization that individuality is more important and that it doesn't matter who she was anymore, ironically during a moment that homages the 95 film and it's far more ambitious idea that they probably didn't use for the sake of not being too weird to audiences.
"Morgan Freeman single handily made the movie the classic that it was." Really! What about the performances from Tim Robbins, Bob Guntan, William Sadler, Clancy Brown, and James Whitmore. Or the great writing and direction by Frank Darabont. Or the amazing cinematography by Roger Deakins. It is so hard for me to take these guys seriously.
Yeh, also him implying like the character of Red from Kings short story was some iconic character that people actually were aware of before the movie came out is just plainly dishonest. But yeh, it’s a great example of how conservatives will use insane hyperbole to make their points sounds knowledgeable, even though it exposes their idiocy. Conservatives are atrocious at media literacy. Imagine being so ignorant that you think The Shawshank Redemption’s greatness can be boiled down to one great aspect. God dam Walsh is a colossal tool
@@somethingwithultra7231 I don't know if you're joking. But at 15:40 Matt Walsh was talking about an example of an instance where Morgan Freeman's character's race was changed from the novella to the movie adaption of Shawshank Redemption. It got under my nerves. Felt I needed to comment something which isn't always the best reason to put it out there. I probably should of timed it and mentioned the movie, but oh well.
I think the reason why the trailer looks so pixelated is because the majority of it is dark ocean. It’s really difficult to properly compress dark colors in video without losing some quality to it.
@@YChromosome99 it's a Disney musical, not a nature documentary. There's no justification for the preoccupation with realism. If they're sacrificing quality for elements of the film that aren't worth dedicating time, effort and budget on then what's even the point of having such a big team and extensive budget. It's like making a found footage film with the most expensive, state of the art camera.
@@NatalleeK right! Disney should be focusing on enhancing the story, keeping the imaginative and “magical” bright colors. If it were trying to be realistic, we would just be learning about real aquatic creatures, not mermaids that want legs. Also even the actual documentaries that go to deeper parts of the ocean have the decency to correct the lighting so we can actually see, so Disney has no excuse
Ah yes, singing underwater is right up there with characters going faster than sound able to have conversations with each other. It's just taking some of that Dragon Ball realism into effect!
I genuinely feel so bad for Halle because she's gorgeous and she's so talented. I have full confidence if Disney themselves didn't have such shit direction that she could crush this role, but alas... Nonetheless, shit movie or not, Halle does NOT deserve this backlash.
She actually does the reverberate so well, I love listening to that. She's got a clear as a bell voice, and i'm sure despite how godawful this movie is, the music and songs will hopefully come through for all the girls and boys who really want this movie.
@@StoicVeR Naw, she sounds fucking amazing. She doesn't deserve to be bashed, people need to remember she's just the actor. She's not the one making the big decisions here.
The issue is Disney is trying to both piss people off and play to the sjw types and use her as a race sheild all at the same time and it's distracting Also she doesn't really really sound great I hate the reverb sound it's annoying why anyone thinks it sounds great
"Mermaids live on the ocean floor, ergo the little mermaid should look like she dwells in Mariana's Trench." Yeah, coastal shelves make up zero% of the ocean floor. I'm a marine biologist I should know.
where she lives literally has tons of corals and algae growing, most of which surprise surprise needs a massive amount of light to flourish and little old matt walsh seems to have no idea how deep you actually have to go to find translucent fish
@@blunderbuss1395 to be fair if they were real they would freeze to death. There’s a reason sea mammals at those depths carry so much blubber. Not only that but human skin wouldn’t hold up to being completely submerged in salt water for more than a month. If you start to apply logic to their existence they cannot exist. It’s best to just admit they are not real and thus anything can apply.
If Mermaids were real and lived on the ocean floor they wouldn't have human noses and eyes etc. they'd have horrifying fish features. If we were making assumptions based on biological realities then the skin colour would be the least concerning issue.
As much as I want to hope Disney genuinely did cast the best actor for the part of Ariel I also cynically believe they cast a black girl to shift the discussion of the remake away from comparing it to the original and instead making it a political battleground in the current culture war, which has been the case with all the recent live-action remakes and I see no reason they would break from the trend now.
Nah, I'm pretty sure Adum doesn't care enough about TLM to dedicate that much effort to the live-action review (assuming he'll even make one). TLK 2019, on the other hand, was personal.
Even when it came to Disney's live action remake of Aladdin, Adum only gave that a quickie review. This would likely fall under the same boat if he decides to watch it (hehe boat)
Oh man i can't wait to see an expressionless fish, crab and seagull singing. Btw remember when Disney movies were popular for how good they were and not because of their controversy.
I think its just amazing that they want to make a realistic Little Mermaid yet everything sounds like a studio recording and not just a bunch of, muffled sounds followed by air bubbles. Pick a fuckin lane Disney!!
Being black and gay myself, I feel very mixed about this subject. On one hand, I agree that race really doesn't here in the case of The Little Mermaid, I'm just as burnt-out on these remakes as everyone else or in the case of Nick Fury in the mcu but there are cases where I can see race swapping is pretty unnecessary especially when there are diverse characters that already exist that deserve way more attention like Static Shock. God knows how many people grew up with that cartoon who would pay out the ass the see Static come to the big screen, I know damn well I would!
Static Shock has the BEST formula for a movie! DC is sleeping on that shit. It has that appeal to kids that x-men does... a bunch of teens get mutant powers. But built in diversity that the people are asking for. They could even bring back the Richie's gay comic plot that the show only winked and nodded at. I think the urban setting would lend itself nicely to night cinematography. Damn I miss Static Shock...
This movie is made to make people racist. This way they can be like "watch this movie the racists are mad about". The Disney version of "doctors hate this weird trick"
I just hate how '' Mericanized '' everything feels. Little Mermaid is a Danish folk tale, there's something gross about it imo to have a massive American corporation like Disney being so performative about it based on some weird American obsessions.
Oh my God I would absolutely adore to see Ursula as an actual drag queen. Disney has casted drag queens before but in less fitting roles, like the blue fairy in the abomination that was the Pinocchio remake
@@michaelstrong5383 I can see Toy Story coming out pretty ok like that, toys walking around and talking in a live action setting inhabited by actual people would probably fit the story well since in the original movie the humans looked more plastic then the toys. Then again, considering how Pinocchio looks in the last movie I'd rather not tempt fate.
The only complaint I have (so far) is the hair color of this new Ariel is not red enough, as they kept the same tail fin and shell color like the original. I want her hair a deep ruby red! And of course the trailer showing the undersea as darker and less color, including the sea creatures because as Jon Favreau says: REALISM Finding Nemo has more color than this trailer!!
the colors in all the disney live action movies are depressing. i dont know why they do that?! i guess to make it more "realistic" but no one liked the cartoon versions because of their realism LOL
Ok...but you seemed to miss where he pointed out that leftists have no problem with say, Hamilton which race swaps actually people. What is your response to that?
@@fucktionary7569 So you'd all be totally cool with a film about Frederick Douglass if he was played by a white actor, but at the end of the movie they make some lame social commentary about race relations? Because somehow, I feel like people would have a massive issue with that, and call it "black erasure" or some such nonsense.
@@fucktionary7569 Well, you are in the minority of leftists then, because I bet every cent I have that if that happened, there would be dozens of articles saying how racist it was and how historically inaccurate it was and how "this is just another example of the racist writers and casting directors taking away a minority role and giving it to a white guy". I dare you to tell me that wouldn't happen.
I don't care about Arielles skin. The movie is gonna suck either way. It kinda sucks tho that Disney keeps convincing woke kids that they care about human rights. But I think we can all agree that a translucent Arielle would be disgusting 😂
To be fair to Disney, I've seen Halle Bailey in her vlogs and interviews, and the director wasn't lying about her casting. She naturally has a youthful energy and voice that carries the spirit of the original character! We'll get further along in representation once casting a black person in a role stops being seen as a controversial, woke-pandering ploy and is just seen as casting a person fit for the role. But then she started doing the National Anthem singing during an intimate moment of longing and vulnerability and I was like 🤦🏽♀️
Unfortunately it came out back when “Force Awakens” was released that Disney literally does this to create a angry response and thus get free advertising. What never gets addressed is that Disney WANTS a racist response because it’s a easy way to get you movie trending online (they then turn around and cut John Boyega out of the poster and trim his role down for the Chinese market). So hey, if the intentions were good, that would be great, that would be good. But it’s not. It’s the worst type of cynical corporatizim and often leaves the actors dangling out to dry.
@@ringbearer1420 Really? Do you happen to remember what article you read, if it was an article? I'm interested in reading/seeing that and gaining more insight. I'd also like to point out as an actor myself, that before people made a conscious effort to have POC characters and consider POC people for roles, actors _were_ being left out to dry. If this remake were made back in the 90s (despite that not making sense, but let's say the original animated film was made even earlier- I have no doubt in my mind that young colored actresses would come in _dreaming_ to play their favorite princess that wouldn't even be considered. As I said, it's great that a woman was cast based on her talent and how much she fit the spirit of the character they were casting for. Even if they wanted a woman of color specifically, what's important is that women of color were considered and their talents acknowledged. We're progressing more than regressing. As far as leaving everyone else out, sadly, only one person can make auditions for any one role and everyone else is out of luck. That's how acting has always been. It's _always_ been tough, competitive and soul crushing.
@@patrickm70 Force Awakens was a new movie with new characters, and it didn't stop the controversy. The 2016 Ghostbusters was a new movie with new characters. If you want something not based on a franchise, Get Out and Men were _wholly_ original movies that recieved a _lot_ of controversy, despite both being great films. I think at the end of the day, bigots who will find any excuse they can to justify their discomfort in seeing people that don't look exactly like them taking the lead without being honest about their _true_ motives are the reason why these movies are so controversial. *Edit:* They really don't remember that the hate and harassment came out FAR before the movies mentioned were released, so there was no way to tell that they'd be bad movies... Unless you just think women and poc are bad 👀
No, because the translucent thing was an obvious joke. So interesting seeing you people get caught up on a joke and not addressing his actual points when it comes to the hypocrisy of leftists on this race swapping issue.
@@moonsnail3286 Probably because sophistry doesn't deserve to be addressed. Walsh is saying whatever he can to stir up anger and outrage for an easy buck off pearlclutching conservatives. Being bothered by the color of Ariel's skin is stupid and Matt Walsh is stupid for being bothered by it, it's a stupid Disney remake no one should take seriously.
@@apollofell3925 So why do you guys get mad whenever it happens in reverse? (A white actor playing a traditionally non white role) why is that described as "erasure"? Just trying to figure out why you have a double standard if "it's just entertainment, it doesn't really matter". Also you people clearly do think the races of people in entertainment are important because you're always whining about "representation" and "diversity".
5:38 And it's really weird that she's hitting that run in a song as earnest as Part Of Your World. That note and the pause after that gives off this vibe of, "Ooh yeah. I hit that!" When it's a girl singing about her desires in a vulnerable moment
No one will beat the original voice actress...the girl playing Ariel is an amazing singer and is trained in signing so it's like...yeah she's a good fit! I also think the director is making her sing like that, cause I feel like she would wanna just sing like the original 😅
Everyone well said, it’s the fact that I’ve probably watched the original so many times as a kid that I’d like to hear it sung the same way like idk what or why they change so much like idc if she’s black can she sing it the same?? None of that was necessary and it made me hate it more?? like it had adverse effects that’s not what you want Disney😭
I don't really give a crap about any of these Disney remakes, but I still I think it will be fun to see how they will modernize some of these older songs: HEAVY JAMAICAN ACCENT SANG BY AN AMERICAN: "Darling it's better down where it's wetter" "The blackfish she sings" "Sha-la-la-la-la-la do what the music say you gotta kiss the girl"
It's funny how walsh brings up The Princess and the Frog, which you'd think is a MUCH more egregious example of "blackwashing", by his own logic. You know... since it's a retelling of a GERMAN story with a MEDIEVAL EUROPEAN setting that was completely reworked to take place in 1920s Louisiana so the black main character would make more sense. But he doesn't seem to mind that one, since it's not a popular reactionary topic of outrage.
The story is about a princess and a frog. Not THE princess and the frog. It’s a coincidence many of the events played out the way they did in the movie. You might have a good argument here but that’s not it.
I feel so bad for the actress. She's getting so much hate for this movie and being made into all these terrible memes. Maybe the reason they have the water so dark is because when she bursts into the human world on land it will be bright and sunny? Maybe it's intentionally a juxtaposition between a world that keeps her confined and the outside world? And not just terrifying that it's the deep depths of the ocean lit like the spooky lab in the Shape of Water... I hope... but that's probably asking too much of disney because all of their movies are just gray now for some reason.
I love how Matt calls the main character from The Princess and the Frog by the wrong name. I know he didn't watch any of these films he professes to care about, but at least google it my guy
Adam is a 4k elitist. I'll be a 1080p peasant until my Panasonic Viera plasma screen dies in like 10 years. 4k watchers are the 1%, 1080p watchers are the 99%.
A lot of deep sea creatures arent translucent but bright red. Because red light doesn't penetrate through water very well so by the time you get deep, there's no red light left and they don't reflect anything, making them pretty much invisible. Therefore the little mirmade should be the colour of a virtual boy. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
It's so lazy. Films like Encanto and Moana showed there is a big interest in seeing stories from all across the world, but instead of giving us a genuinely multicultural list of films, they go back to the same European stories, but cast them like they're set in New York. It's insulting. Why don't we see more stories from India, or Malaysia, or the Phillipines, or Persia, or... ANYWHERE in Africa?
Since Melissa McCarthy is Ursula, I wonder how they're going to handle Vanessa? Since Vanessa is supposed to closely resemble Ariel (enough so that Prince Eric believes she was the girl he saw when he woke up), but since Ariel is Black, and Melissa McCarthy is both white and fat, what will they do? Will they still have Vanessa be white and have it just not make much sense? Will they have Vanessa be black, and if so, would that be considered some kind of pseudo-blackface since it's really just Ursula in a disguise? I honestly thought they'd hire a black actor to play Ursula so this wouldn't be an issue. I feel like the fat activist community will also have a huge problem if Vanessa is thin like Ariel, even tho that's how it is in the movie. I wonder if they'd go so far as to make Vanessa fat just to avoid the possible backlash? Or remove the Vanessa storyline altogether (the worst possible timeline). Overall this movie feels like a ticking time bomb of unbearably pointless internet 'discourse' waiting to happen.
Melissa as Ursula is probably gonna be CGI'd to shit, so they'll probably just use regular Melissa as Vanessa. She basically mind controls the prince, so they'll use that to just hand wave it.
I just imagined they would cheap out and have it sort of like everyones under a spell~~~ and see hers like Ariel instead of the actual vanessa transformation.
I have the feeling Disney decided to cast a black actor just so people would talk about the movie. I don’t think anyone would’ve even cared about this movie otherwise. Now Disney has an online controversy so the movie is relevant.
Disney sucks, but idiots also suck. The defense I've seen is that making Ariel black is disrespectful to the original Danish folklore. Okay, but was there a talking lobster in the original folklore? In that case, why not get mad at the '89 film?
Tbh I wouldn't cast white people to play native Americans, and clearly the original mermaid was white even in the original story lol...so yeah you proooooobably should cast a white person to play her...but even if you did, people would still hate it. So it doesn't matter.
Oops I read this wrong rip. But yes I've seen this everywhere and it's like? Mermaids arent just for the Danish folklore, there were also black mermaids. There is more info on where they come from but I gotta look more into it
Walsh's take of "OH BUT IF WE MADE PRINCESS AND THE FROG A WYPIPO YOU WOULD BE MAAAAAAAAAD" is a false equivalence. In the Princess and the Frog, Tiana being black was integral to the story. She experienced discrimination that was strongly implied to be born out of racial prejudice. She also grew up in New Orleans' black culture. In The Little Mermaid, it literally makes no fucking difference if Ariel is any other race than white. She's a fictional creature in a fairytale setting. You could argue that maybe it's weird a very small population of non-human creatures is racially diverse, but it doesn't matter. The movie tells the story of Ariel being thirsty for humans, it doesn't delve into mermaid immigration and ethnic census. She could straight up be a vaguely anthropomorphic fish like Flounder and it wouldn't matter.
The fact that the most replayed part of the trailer is the very beginning tells you how many people clicked on the trailer just to dislike or write an angry comment without even watching it
I dont think it counts unless you actually rewind the video once it past that part. Its more likely because the teaser is so short, people kept rewinding to see it from the start.
It's so convenient that Morgan Freeman was "the best man for the role" in the Shawshank Redemption, but the actress for Ariel isn't, despite the movie not being out yet. And then he immediately goes on to accuse others of having double standards. "Oh but they race swapped her deliberately", but that doesn't factor into her qualification for the role, unless you think only a white person has the skills necessary to play Ariel.
Coz Morgan Freeman is in like half of every Hollywood movie. (Other half is Sam Jackson) I can believe that they wanted to cast Morgan Freeman coz he's a good actor. But with this they have already decided to go with a non white person.
I legit thought Flounder was a plastic bag floating along after Ariel at first. Beautiful. In any case, this movie does not look good, and I will not be seeing it, but the controversy is ridiculous and I feel for the young actress bearing the brunt of it.
My biggest concern is what they're going to do with all the animal characters. Like I really dont want a realistic looking crab singing kiss the girl, ya know?
This kind of conversation when it comes to casting gets really blurred. I personally don't care if a fictional character a lá Ariel, James Bond, Batman, etc. is played by an actor with a different race compared to the original, as long as their good in the role then I don't care. If we're talking about fictional or historical characters where their racial/ethnic background is a part of the story, then the proper representation is important. Having a white guy play Malcolm X or a black guy play Bruce Lee, it would obviously not work from both a historical and story perspective. It's a tough conversation to have, mostly because the emotions surrounding it are so heightened that you can't really participate without it being civil or respectful.
@@moonsnail3286 1. I tapped out this comment in like 15 seconds cause I was at work and have better things to do. 2. He made no real points, everything he says boils down to "I'm mad they put a black in the lead role, it belongs to a white girl! The blacks and the gays and the liberals are destroying our culture!". Then jerking himself off that he upset some nobodys on Twitter. Imagine trying to use biology to justify why its wrong and impossible for a mermaid (a fantasy creature that doesnt exist) to be a black person. Its not as if they're making some historical film where George Washington is played by a black lady. Fucks sake lol. 3. Matt Walsh doesn't want a discussion. I doubt he gives a single fuck about Disney films. Best case he just wants to tell his target audience what they want to hear so they'll watch. At worst he genuinely believes that "American culture" (straight white religious) is being destroyed because media increasingly acknowledges that non white and non straight people exist and that's ok.
@@smaakjeks Also not a real rebuttal, the Ghost in the Shell cyborgs aren't real either and that didn't stop you leftists from throwing a fit over the casting of Scarlett Johansson in the lead role. Address why you have double standards about race swapping in fictional media.
She definitely is part of that collective "Why?" we all feel when watching the trailer. As far as the controversy goes, I can see why some people would criticize Disney for making Ariel black. Having black protagonists is great and all that, but it seems like a very cynical way to be representative and get support for being politically correct when we all know the trope about gay characters in Disney that can be easily edited out for Chinese audiences. It's all superficial and cynical, so it just feels disingenuous, and then "Everyone who criticizes this movie for looking bad is racist" becomes the defense to gather support. So again, not criticizing the fact that they made Ariel black, I don't really care, but it seems like the whole controversy was cynically predicted and probably intentional, just to drum up some PR around this movie that just looks wholly uninteresting.
you can see where they extended those notes from a mile away. examples: "arabian naaaaaaaaaa-ihts' - Will "the slap" Smith, 1st 5 minutes of aladin. "of luuuuuuuu-ife" - that singer, 1st 5 minutes of LK19 "part of that weeeeeee-ld" - this actor, the new "Little Mermaid".
I’m glad you called out the showy pop-star singing moment. I started the trailer saying to myself “I’ll give this a shot, regardless of the talk about it, it might be good….” Then she launched into that ridiculous pop-singing bit, and I turned it off. I was done. “Just sing the #%*@ song!” was the perfect way to put it.
I'm not technically mad about her race, it's fine to have a black female lead. The only problem is that they're doing this stuff in remakes all the time because instead of making new and good likable character, they change races of others and they count it as representation. Why can't you just have a brand new movie that has both a black lead and all black cast and make it entertaining with a good story and good characters instead of making terrible remakes with race-swapped main characters. Again this doesn't mean it's wrong to have someone who's black be a main character in a movie, but why, why does Disney do this though? Plus tbh we already know that even if they kept her white it would've been bad either way, just as a reminder that a majority of Disney remakes have been pretty awful.
I know but still. The ONLY good thing about these movies is seeing the iconic frames of animation realized irl. Beauty and the beast got it. It was a shit movie but we got the ballroom scene and beast fighting and stuff. Alladin got it and I really liked it. But little mermaid, can’t have it. It sucks imo
I'm not excited for this movie. Not because Ariel is black, I couldn't care less about that. I'm not excited because Disney live action remakes are terrible.
@@someidiot420 Even content intended for children can be good for older audiences. His outrage is so calculated that you can’t even hear an authentic anger anywhere.
4:55 Speaking of that sorta thing, a really good example of that was when Rita Ora did a cover of Running Up That Hill at a concert recently, and that clip alone exemplifies your issue with how Halle Bailey sung in that trailer
I’m particularly getting a kick out of the fact that his “science” isn’t even particularly accurate. The fact that blue light doesn’t reach the ocean floor means that creatures can be translucent, yes, but they can also be red and black depending on the depth. Just google before you racism, man
You know, all the OTHER glaring problems aside, what bothers me most is how the WATER she is in has no bearing on sound. It works animated, in animation it is easier to suspend disbelief. In live action, WHY IS THE WATER SO THIN AND BUBBLE-FREE
Finally someone that is actually watching the trailer and not just giving Disney their inclusivity points. The CGI looks shit like every other life action movie and it bothers me that none is talking about it. It looks lifeless and sad AF.
Race swapping is only ok if the character's race isn't integral to the character's story. Is being black integral to the character's story? Don't change their race. Is being white integral to the character's story? Don't change their race. Ariel's story is about being a mermaid that falls in love with a human. Her race isn't a part of her story, therefore it's alright to change her race if people really want to. I, personally, think we should just make more original stories about people of color rather than do race swap remakes, however, Ariel being black isn't the big atrocity or scientific inaccuracy that Matt Walsh makes it out to be. If they had changed her from a mermaid into another fictional creature, then that would be different, because her being a mermaid is actually integral to her story. Also, let's be real, this movie is gonna suck because it's a live action Disney remake, not because any of the characters have been race swapped.
Orcas are black and white because it serves as camouflage. If you look down at the sea from above, they are very hard to spot unless they come up for air and if you are looking up from the bottom to the surface, they are also hard to spot. Same with dolphins, although they are more greyish in colour.
Holy shit, Walsh really went the "Race exclusion because biology" route, and I had immediate whiplash to Zootopia when Judy was giving that interview and stated she believed the predators were going savage because of biology. Wow. Just wow.
My usual take on the matter is, the more iconic the character, the more distracting it is to change the character design, and skin color IS part of character design. Also, I just find it funny that yet another red head got replaced. Rip red heads. Edit: Thanks to the comments, I just learned who’s playing Ursula. Oh dear.
I know that this will be a difficult thing to handle, but it's actually quite unusual to find black people to be a distraction. You might wanna think about why that is. Is there something about your fantasy world that precludes non-whites?
@@PlatinumAltaria Lol, I really don’t want to justify your comment with a response, simply because of how ridiculous it is, but to clarify, it’s not specifically cause she’s black. To me it’s no different than the distracting costume change Robocop got in that crappy reboot, or if in a shitty alternate reality, Brad Pitt played Blade. Now shoo. Take your nonsensical assumptions else where.
@@RanOutOfSpac I can never enjoy movies, black and brown people keep coming on the screen and I have to go on a 15 hour rant about the decline of America. That or women, I mean when did we start letting them act? Aren't they supposed to be home raising kids? They've probably got an illegal nanny taking care of them! This is not very far from how you sound, and you seem completely uninterested in even slight introspection.
To be realistic, not all riffs and runs are "showy bullshit." Talented performers understand that strategically placed riffs are a form of emotional/dramatic emphasis. When an actor has to speak the same line more than once, the appropriate choice is to provide different emphasis on the repeated phrases to convey importance and emotion. Since Ariel sings that exact line ("wish I could be part of your world") multiple times in that song, the riff is strategically placed on the final iteration of the line to both differentiate it from previous iterations AND to provide emotional emphasis so that her desire to "be part of that world" is highlighted.
Yep riffs and runs are amazing and they're part of what makes stuff like r&b and gospel music so amazing, I really like watching his videos but I hate how much he just hates on any kind of vocal acrobatics automatically.
If the LM lived that far down that her skin was translucent her swim bladder would explode when she went to the surface due to the change in pressure. And that would be a fucking awesome movie.
I love how these live action remakes will be looked back upon as the biggest stain on Disney's reputation. Like, the direct to video sequels were cheap trash, but they knew what they were, they were products made to cash in on the direct to video market at the time and nothing more. These live action remakes I would argue are worse because they take up SO much time and money and whatnot at Disney and they absolutely blow. I'm sure they'll have a cult following of kids growing up now who'll have a soft spot for them and, honestly, I can't blame them for that; I have the same affinity for some of the direct to video sequels or the Star Wars Prequels. That doesn't make these good. What I am taken aback by is just HOW ugly these movies are. They're either super dark with harsh shadows and muddy colors that make it look like an early 2000s horror movie, or they're so washed out and overexposed they look like District 9. The sheer incompetence of this studio to butcher their catalog like this over and over is baffling. The ones coming out now don't even have an heir of grandeur to them anymore. Mulan and Pinocchio in particular were unbridled disasters. I hope that once Disney gets all of these remakes already in production out of the way, they'll just stop and pit their focus back into their animated stuff which has always blown the remakes out of the water. Ralph Breaks the Internet may be an equally awful cash grab as the remakes, but at least it doesn't make me want to remove my eyes with a spoon.
What an obnoxious state of discourse we’re stuck in. It feels like yet another soulless movie trying to capitalize on Disney adults, the issue isn’t that someone who isn’t white is playing the cartoon mermaid. But you can’t find any substance because everyone’s distracted about “muh culture wars”
I can explain the “wahrld” pronunciation. Usually singers do that to open up their throat. It makes singing higher notes easier, and is usually unnoticeable when you aren’t watching them sing. This means she probably couldn’t hit the note while singing the “O” in “world”, and instead was told to sing it as “wahrld”. At least, that’s what I assume as a person who has had voice coaching before. My father actually gave me that advice once for a different song. He was coached by the same licensed opera coach as i was when he was a kid, and got the lead roles in almost every play he’s auditioned for, so he knows how to sing.
I don’t think it’s that she couldn’t hit the note, seeing that she is very vocally capable. It’s just modern vowel placement. Even in the original, the singer doesn’t use a string o for world because it would make the line harsh:)
That would be great, but that's not the world we live in. If The Lion King remake can make a billion dollars in the box office, then so will this remake too unfortunately.
I bet ursula is evil because people were mean to her and not because she's just a power hungry villain
Or they’ll do her OG backstory that got cut: she ate too much at Tritons party and was banished
@@futuristicgirl14 XD
@@futuristicgirl14 that'd be hilarious tbh
I know there was a deleted opening scene from the original that mentioned Triton and Ursula being siblings. There's a very good chance they'll add that into the remake.
@@michaelstrong5383 it's in the stage show too iirc
I'm personally more angry over Melissa McCarthy being cast as Ursula than whoever is playing Ariel. Disney is going to make Poor Unfortunate Souls into the next "Be Prepared 2019".
Can McCarthy even sing??? I’m unaware of this if she can.
Wow yeah, I hadn't heard about that. That's way more upsetting than any kind of change to the skin color of a fantasy character.
apparently, melissa was a drag queen before her career started and the original design for ursula was inspired from a drag queen so that's my justification for tolerating the casting choice
Soooo true. It’s gonna be awful
@@UltraRandomStory can females be drag queens
Disney really likes to make every fantastical world they ever made look really fucking boring.
Blame Jon tbh, even Adam complained about him doing that
the power of cgi baby
@@tockidy4283 Not really fair to blame the medium.
@@soapbiter36577 the power of disney cgi baby
It's because they're committed to make these movies "live action" even though they're 99% CGI in practice, so they compensate by having the CG environments lack any sort of stylisation or artistic touch at all.
Just realized they’re probably gonna make a photo realistic Sebastian. Lord have mercy on us
we could've just had that above-water-Mr. Krabs model but instead we're going to have nightmare fuel
I watched the semi-photorealistic Pinocchio remake and good God was Jiminy cricket nightmare fuel
"Sebastian is a racist portrayal of Caribbean people, so we had to exclude him entirely." Someone at Disney, probably Lol
I'd take that over, like what someone else mentioned, the realistically-textured-cartoon Jiminy Cricket. It's so much worse to merge the two styles. If Jiminy had been a photorealistic cricket, just with a tiny top hat? Instantly cuter.
@loveutill theendoftimes =[⁰_⁰]=
*"Undah da sea!"*
Flounder looking like a real fish is the worst thing that could have ever happened with this remake
Just learned that Melissa McCarthy is Ursula and I retract my previous statement
at the very least make him an actual flounder, it would be funny at least
The Ariel reveal is the least interesting part of the whole thing. None of the live action remakes have memorable leads. I'm way more interested to see human voices coming from horrifying realistic crab and fish faces, and also whatever cringe-fest Melissa McCarthy is going to bring to Ursula. It's going to be an insane dumpster fire.
@@videogamenostalgia *honestly*
We're talking about Flounder, but what about Sebastian? That guy is gonna look like an actual hermit crab, and it's gonna be both the silliest and ugliest thing imaginable.
@@videogamenostalgia you’re crazy cruella was amazing and the best lead out of all the Disney remakes
Ok. I understand that shooting underwater is one of the hardest things to do in movies, not really shooting underwater is fine, but they could’ve tried at least a little more to actually make it look like it’s in the ocean. At the very least, they could’ve made the movie not be lit like a horror movie.
the marketing is gonna be something like "we developed groundbreaking, award winning, reality shattering water physics for the movie" same shit with the lion king.
@@tockidy4283 "not many people know that very little light reaches down just a few dozen feet!"
This is what it looks like in the ocean. It's dark and the colours get really diluted. You're thinking of ten feet down, not hundreds of feet down. They should've just ignored the physics and made it vibrant for Ariel's scenes and dark, diluted for Ursula's scenes.
@@NeoFryBoy It's a reef not Mariana's Trench
Alfonso Cuarón shot in freaking space for Gravity almost 10 years ago. What's Disney's justification for not putting effort when they have all the resources in the world?
If they're gonna CG every single shot, why not animate the whole damn thing?
The most hilarious thing about the trailer is that you can easily tell she’s sitting in an empty green room and not in real water. James Cameron would have a fit
At this point, Cameron should be the only director allowed to use CGI. Say what you will about Avatar, the special effects still hold up
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 they’re incredible
that shot is soo bad, angle makes her look wierd with monobrow
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 what about Peter Jackson?
@@Mr_Monolith The Hobbit.
Everyone, mark your calendars. October 6th is the day the Mario movie trailer will be released. I am excited to see Adum react to it.
My birthday is October 6, so this will be great!
I'm excited to watch it too. Will be a shit show
I'm so excited to see Chris Pratt as Mario say "Well...... that happened" while a record scratch plays
Mario from Nintendo? Super Mario? I didn't know that lol
That's the one thing that'll probably kill me
Even if the actress chosen looked exactly like Ariel from the ‘89 movie, I doubt the movie itself would be much better. The Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin remakes had leads that looked at least somewhat comparable to their animated counterparts, and those movies still sucked.
That and live action remakes of animated films are just a bad idea
I think that's what people are calling out. It's very clear that it's "super important" to make CERTAIN characters actually look like themselves (never mind the personalities and such, which a lot of times they ruin to insert their woke propaganda in place of the original characters), whereas they treat other characters like "blank slates who can be replaced by ANYONE", while constantly saying things like, "white people have no culture".
It's pretty hard not to see a pattern. They've even recast REAL PEOPLE who were white as black, and fantasy Hitler youth type characters as black, where it clearly makes NO sense.
People aren't racist for calling out blatant racism when they treat people of one skin color constantly completely and utterly different than every other skin color.
When I play FFVII, I expect Cloud to look like fucking Cloud. If I turn on FFVII, and he's suddenly a Lithuanian woman, I'm not playing that game - and it's not because I hate Lithuanian women, it's because that's not Cloud.
They ruined my favorite movie Beauty and the Beast..... The only one they got right in my books was Cinderella from 2015.
That doesn’t mean don’t try to cast someone that resembles the character. All it did was create more unnecessary hate, a lot of which is directed at the actor for being cast rather than the movie itself. And even after the movie releases, it’s only going to get worse, especially if the movie does end up being pure shit.
And even so, the writing for both leads were still awful. Emma Watson was fine but they autotuned her voice so hard for the songs that it sounds terrible… and Mena Mesud (I butchered the name) didn’t even hold the same charm or charisma that the original Aladdin had
I really hate how people will say this film is bad for being 'woke' when it's really bad for being a cynical cash-grab.
I mean, I'm sure that there'll be some clumsy and stupid attempts at being woke, but that won't be the *main* reason the film sucks.
Only certain people will dislike this film cuz it's """woke""" (aka inclusive and diverse)
I don't even think there will be anything explicitly "woke" in the movie unless you count the casting which I don't. I might be proved wrong, though.
@@70sman There might be a gay couple kissing in the background that will get edited out in other countries.
Yea I think they kind of go hand in hand. Disney loves playing both sides so they can get as much money as possible. Censoring their ‘woke’ potions so they can sell more films is wack. Either do it or don’t. It more frustrates me that people give them any credit for stuff like this while their attempts are mostly shallow and insincere.
@@joinsideke ah that consostutes as "woke" right.
My existence is """woke""" to consveratrash
Let's just cut to the chase, the race of the actor doesn't matter. The movie will suck. It'll have ugly cg, it will ruin the soundtrack, and overcomplicate a beautiful, simple fairytale story.
I hope Halley goes on to work in productions with actual artistic merit.
That's actually the crux of it. The race swapping here is mainly a cover by Disney to not only push a racist sociopolitical agenda, but to get in front of bad reviews and press saying "there's a bunch of bigots out there and if you want to trigger them, see our shitty movie". It's called "fan baiting" and Disney has pioneered this crap for at least half a decade now.
Except ofcourse it does. That they look like the way they way you have grown up to know them and how they first where made in the cartoon matters a lot. This isnt Ariel this is just a black mermaid with the same name.
They cast a black girl so that every racist attacks the movie and every dumb superficially progressive dude defends it. Makes it go viral. So it 100% matters as its a cynical ploy to get free advertisement.
It won't even have a simple fairy tale story, apparently this version of Ariel 'don't need no man' so its a new story.
Knowing how badly Disney is doing at the writing department its going the be terrible.
Yup. She's literally perfect for playing a mermaid, she can sing and she looks literally gorgeous. I really hope she can play as a mermaid in an actually good film, since I'd love to see a black mermaid starring in her own original story
You see, Ariel didn't want to sing the song, she was trying to perform it.
Pe-foh-mit
* Drunk Hans Zimmer nods in approval *
They actually started with an African voice in the back
Ariel didn't want to fix it. She wanted to perform it... he he he, that's a great way to describe it.
As Terrence Fletcher once said:
“What are you a fucking accapella group?! PLAY THE GODDAMN MUSIC!!!”
People like "racists hate this" when in reality people are tired of remakes and, like, the real reason I as a black person hate having characters cast as other races because Hollywood is too lazy to create original black characters.
I'm sick of black characters being treated as nothing but "recoloured whites".
Mermaids would probably be countershaded like Sharks, whales, and dolphins imo. Countershading allows marine predators to control the water surface with bidirectional camouflage. For any prey below, the white underbelly blends in with the sunlight from above, while for anything above the dark back allows them to blend in with the darkness of the depths below. So if anything, the little mermaid should have some kind of severe vitiligo.
That would be so pretty though!
@@brunobucciaratiswife but then we can’t retell the story to be set in the time of the transatlantic slave trade for some ungodly reason
Nah, I want a translucent one you can see it skull through
They should really be bald, mostly armless, and covered in blubber. There's a reason why a lot of fish adapt similar shapes, it's because being human-shaped with hair just creates unnecessary drag. Every mermaid should look like a weird seel-like creature with human body fat for buoyancy or it's scientifically inaccurate.
No singing, either. Human speech wouldn't carry like that, only squeals and clicks outside of the human range of hearing. Imagine it:
A large seel-like creature floats into frame. The music starts up. It's making a sad face...
*whine* "OOOUOOYYYUUU!!! Gakakakakaka... Gyk gyk gyk! Eeeeeeee.... MUUuuUUuuUUUUU?!?!? Gakaka..." *floats up* "Ooo-UUUU! .... Ooo... -UUHH! ... MMUUUUUuuuUUUU????? EE-EEEEE!!!"
Standing ovation. Perfect scene. Everyone is cheering and crying. Congrats, Disney, you just won all the Oscars forever. Cinema will never be the same.
Fuck it, might as well make them zora while were at it
Disney is 100 years old and they still don't play their trailers in 4k. Pitiful.
This is so funny becaue it implies that they would've known about 4k since the 1920s lmao
@@Red-jl1qr ah shit thanks for explaining it m8
Just wait till they become thousands of years old. Like genie will smith
@@WL1264 the funny part is that I don't think the implication was intentional
BILLIONS in profit, but CAN’T AFFORD the best camera frames?
What’s your point for owning near everything?
moral of the story: the movie's gonna suck because it's a disney live action remake, not because it has a black person in it.
This
Pretty sure that's what Walsh and many others are saying, literally no white people actually f*cking care, we are also tired of this remake sh*t.
@@caleviwin they 100% do lmao, they only have this criticism for the little mermaid, the only remake with a black MC. Slither away
i'm starting to think Disney is using black people as shield for criticism and some shallow way of getting attention.
Because i see no reason to change it honestly.
@@caleviwin "literally no white people actually f*cking care" you are either delusional, living under a rock, or just blatantly lying. There are countless racists that come out any time a black person is in a major studio movie, claiming it's just pandering, tokenism, etc. The fact that it's a black actress playing a usually white character guarantees plenty of people got their knickers in a twist.
In 1997 a black woman (Brandy) played Cinderella, and a Filipino man (Paolo Montalbán) played the Prince. The filipino prince's parents were a black woman (Whoopi Goldberg) and a white man (Victor Garber). It wasn't considered "woke" because back then we weren't slapping that label on everything featuring someone who wasn't white. It's got an 86% on rotten tomatoes, it's a decent movie. Brandy was great and she is a great singer. These new Disney movies don't have any of the character or thought being put into them as their past movies and I feel like casting is more erecting a shield than any effort to make an actually good movie.
Halle Bailey is a great singer. I have no doubt she can do well, but the movie as a whole is going to be a shitshow.
That’s what I find frustrating, nowadays some people would cry “woke” about anything relating to race or sexual orientation that they don’t like
didnt it also break viewing records and it won some prices? i remember loving that movie as a kid.
My issue is just Disney saying "inclusion" is their main goal, but at the end of the day, it's just free marketing. It's not inclusive to just take white characters and make them black, this is an American company, you can choose any race. Unfortunately, it wouldn't gather the same amount of free press, so rinse and repeat.
@@anothernobody1804 Because they're projecting the fact that they're the actual snowflakes, by calling people snowflakes. They make their fragilities look obvious these days lol
Thank you for saying this. I’ve been thinking about this ever since Halle been getting all the hate and I’ve been wondering why nobody sees to care about Brandi being Cinderella.
Ariel is suppossed to be at a very intimate moment when she sings that song. She is suppossed to sound vulnerable and nostalgic. In this version she sounds like she is performing for an audience and trying to be heard by everybody. Is not about her feelings and inner wishes anymore, is about her singing.
Its the same shit with Lion King. Why do these actors in these live action remakes need to mess up the pitches and change keys unnecessarily in the songs. Like wtf
Now that the full song came out you gotta feel stupid about this comment
Couldn’t have said it better myself! There is so much pain behind that specific line she sings, and I don’t hear any of that in her performance.
It’s almost like these kids who sing sad songs on singing competitions, but smile the whole way through because they don’t understand the song.
@@LetsWinWithTim whatever 🙄the director and her cast all said everyone was in tears after hearing her version..there’s plenty emotion displayed in her vocal performance
@@mamajoycewig3041 I'm right, you're wrong.
This is gonna be another soulless remake because Disney knows they can make money on nostalgia alone without putting any effort
"It makes me want to watch the original," This is the conclusion I came to after seeing Beauty and the Beast in Theatres, and after that I never wanted to watch a Disney remake again because I just would rather watch the original animated version.
And Howard Ashman literally stated why music and animation go well together.
I lost a girlfriend because I refused to go see Beauty & the Beast with her. Yup that was the only reason lol
If I remember correctly, the Ghost in the Shell live action movie raised eyebrows because the production company kept releasing promotional material explaining that the characters weren't actually Japanese in the original material (even so far as getting the creator to go "Well she's an android so I guess it's okay"). And then there was the CGI tests to give Scarlett Johansen "Asian eyes". I didn't care at the time cause it seemed like a disastrous cash grab, but it made me wonder why they were going to such lengths to justify their casting decision.
On a related note though, when I was younger I tried auditioning for roles that specifically called for Japanese actors. And I'd find out later the positions went to white actors on the grounds of "we went with the most authentic talent" or to a different Asian nationality because "audiences can't tell the difference." So realistically, the lesson here is just that productions will do whatever they think will get them the most profits and then find a way to justify it later if it raises any controversy.
Spoilers - I thought the problem was - if you seen the movie. Character is a Scarlett Johansson looking robot, but in Flashback at the end of the film we learn it has actually a brain of middle age japanese woman. Also if I remember corectly Scarrlet actually plays different character then in anime, she has different name I think. Didn't knew about CGI eyes controversy, that sounds cringe. But it's clear Scarrlet got that role only cause shes a famous name and not many asian actors are.
@@lipgloss675411 why did they put Gary Oldman on his knees next to Peter Dinklage!!!
@@lipgloss675411 they care about making money. If they think being “progressive” will make money, the execs will shoot for that. It sucks when any creative work is hijacked just for profit, regardless of the reason.
Though there are some examples of it working out well.
To your first point though, the issue is also looking the part. You can pretend to be fat or crippled. You can also dye hair or change eye color. The line usually gets drawn at skin color being something you can change with makeup. Maybe that’s a line that doesn’t need to be there?
@@dramatickesneni It's even more amusing because there is a twist in the film that can be interpreted as a meta element where she was originally a Japanese woman that got changed into a Caucasian by those, evil, evil corporate heads as if that was the plan all along. Sucks because that is an interesting concept, and if I didn't clearly know that was a lame explanation to use a more marketable actor in the west, I'd find it a worthwhile exploration. Even then, it ultimately means little because in the end, after all that effort to find her true self, she suddenly comes to the realization that individuality is more important and that it doesn't matter who she was anymore, ironically during a moment that homages the 95 film and it's far more ambitious idea that they probably didn't use for the sake of not being too weird to audiences.
@@motherplayer I didn’t even know she got reverse psylocked
"Morgan Freeman single handily made the movie the classic that it was." Really! What about the performances from Tim Robbins, Bob Guntan, William Sadler, Clancy Brown, and James Whitmore. Or the great writing and direction by Frank Darabont. Or the amazing cinematography by Roger Deakins.
It is so hard for me to take these guys seriously.
I'd bet big money he has never seen it.
Frank Darabont is a legend.
Yeh, also him implying like the character of Red from Kings short story was some iconic character that people actually were aware of before the movie came out is just plainly dishonest. But yeh, it’s a great example of how conservatives will use insane hyperbole to make their points sounds knowledgeable, even though it exposes their idiocy. Conservatives are atrocious at media literacy. Imagine being so ignorant that you think The Shawshank Redemption’s greatness can be boiled down to one great aspect. God dam Walsh is a colossal tool
Wait Morgan Freeman was in the Little Mermaid!?
@@somethingwithultra7231 I don't know if you're joking. But at 15:40 Matt Walsh was talking about an example of an instance where Morgan Freeman's character's race was changed from the novella to the movie adaption of Shawshank Redemption. It got under my nerves. Felt I needed to comment something which isn't always the best reason to put it out there. I probably should of timed it and mentioned the movie, but oh well.
I think the reason why the trailer looks so pixelated is because the majority of it is dark ocean. It’s really difficult to properly compress dark colors in video without losing some quality to it.
They’re definitely going to justify the dark ocean saying it’s ‘realistic’, when in actuality it’s to hide the bad CGI.
@@NewNicator it is realistic......Lol. Ya'll know ya'll droning for this dude HARD.
@@YChromosome99 it's a Disney musical, not a nature documentary. There's no justification for the preoccupation with realism. If they're sacrificing quality for elements of the film that aren't worth dedicating time, effort and budget on then what's even the point of having such a big team and extensive budget. It's like making a found footage film with the most expensive, state of the art camera.
@@NatalleeK visuals are on point. That's all I'm saying.
@@NatalleeK right! Disney should be focusing on enhancing the story, keeping the imaginative and “magical” bright colors. If it were trying to be realistic, we would just be learning about real aquatic creatures, not mermaids that want legs.
Also even the actual documentaries that go to deeper parts of the ocean have the decency to correct the lighting so we can actually see, so Disney has no excuse
why the hell is it so dark? oh we're going for "realism" again 🙃
Ah yes, singing underwater is right up there with characters going faster than sound able to have conversations with each other. It's just taking some of that Dragon Ball realism into effect!
I genuinely feel so bad for Halle because she's gorgeous and she's so talented. I have full confidence if Disney themselves didn't have such shit direction that she could crush this role, but alas...
Nonetheless, shit movie or not, Halle does NOT deserve this backlash.
She actually does the reverberate so well, I love listening to that. She's got a clear as a bell voice, and i'm sure despite how godawful this movie is, the music and songs will hopefully come through for all the girls and boys who really want this movie.
@@StoicVeR Naw, she sounds fucking amazing. She doesn't deserve to be bashed, people need to remember she's just the actor. She's not the one making the big decisions here.
@@StoicVeR sounds awful. I don't get it. Definitely the weird National Anthom bs Adum pointed out
I really hope she gets more opportunities from being in this movie.
The issue is Disney is trying to both piss people off and play to the sjw types and use her as a race sheild all at the same time and it's distracting
Also she doesn't really really sound great I hate the reverb sound it's annoying why anyone thinks it sounds great
"Mermaids live on the ocean floor, ergo the little mermaid should look like she dwells in Mariana's Trench." Yeah, coastal shelves make up zero% of the ocean floor. I'm a marine biologist I should know.
where she lives literally has tons of corals and algae growing, most of which surprise surprise needs a massive amount of light to flourish and little old matt walsh seems to have no idea how deep you actually have to go to find translucent fish
Also “Mermaids live on the ocean floor” is crazy since they’re not real…
@@TheShahofIrann to be fair even if they were real they wouldn't be restricted to it anyways, ariel herself was awfully pelagic
@@blunderbuss1395 to be fair if they were real they would freeze to death. There’s a reason sea mammals at those depths carry so much blubber. Not only that but human skin wouldn’t hold up to being completely submerged in salt water for more than a month. If you start to apply logic to their existence they cannot exist. It’s best to just admit they are not real and thus anything can apply.
If Mermaids were real and lived on the ocean floor they wouldn't have human noses and eyes etc. they'd have horrifying fish features. If we were making assumptions based on biological realities then the skin colour would be the least concerning issue.
As much as I want to hope Disney genuinely did cast the best actor for the part of Ariel I also cynically believe they cast a black girl to shift the discussion of the remake away from comparing it to the original and instead making it a political battleground in the current culture war, which has been the case with all the recent live-action remakes and I see no reason they would break from the trend now.
Oh dear. Adam better crank out The Lion King part 2 pronto because this movie is going to need a 5 hour review too.
Oh don't worry. As someone who also grew up on TLM, I'll probably be taking care of that one.
Nah, I'm pretty sure Adum doesn't care enough about TLM to dedicate that much effort to the live-action review (assuming he'll even make one). TLK 2019, on the other hand, was personal.
@@orlandocasillas9806 my thoughts exactly. Unless ariel is adopted by scalies in the furry community i cant imagine that happening haha
Even when it came to Disney's live action remake of Aladdin, Adum only gave that a quickie review. This would likely fall under the same boat if he decides to watch it (hehe boat)
Oh man i can't wait to see an expressionless fish, crab and seagull singing.
Btw remember when Disney movies were popular for how good they were and not because of their controversy.
I think its just amazing that they want to make a realistic Little Mermaid yet everything sounds like a studio recording and not just a bunch of, muffled sounds followed by air bubbles. Pick a fuckin lane Disney!!
Not defending tgem but thry necer said they wantvto maje it realistic lol...find better criticism
@@lanalan4157 Jesus, clean your keyboard out.
Hoenstly I never heard anybody say this movie's supposed to be realistic, from what I've seen, it seems like they just wanna make it live action
Being black and gay myself, I feel very mixed about this subject. On one hand, I agree that race really doesn't here in the case of The Little Mermaid, I'm just as burnt-out on these remakes as everyone else or in the case of Nick Fury in the mcu but there are cases where I can see race swapping is pretty unnecessary especially when there are diverse characters that already exist that deserve way more attention like Static Shock. God knows how many people grew up with that cartoon who would pay out the ass the see Static come to the big screen, I know damn well I would!
Static Shock has the BEST formula for a movie! DC is sleeping on that shit. It has that appeal to kids that x-men does... a bunch of teens get mutant powers. But built in diversity that the people are asking for. They could even bring back the Richie's gay comic plot that the show only winked and nodded at. I think the urban setting would lend itself nicely to night cinematography. Damn I miss Static Shock...
And on the other hand ....?
@@tanotano1176 ?
This movie is made to make people racist. This way they can be like "watch this movie the racists are mad about". The Disney version of "doctors hate this weird trick"
I just hate how '' Mericanized '' everything feels.
Little Mermaid is a Danish folk tale, there's something gross about it imo to have a massive American corporation like Disney being so performative about it based on some weird American obsessions.
It’s such a shame they didn’t get a drag Queen to play Ursula especially since she’s literally based on drag queens, specifically Divine
no wonder I was so repulsed by her
Agree, but I'm assuming they didn't want to stir up the 'queer coded villain' articles and pussied out. Drag Ursula wouldve been amazing.
Oh my God I would absolutely adore to see Ursula as an actual drag queen. Disney has casted drag queens before but in less fitting roles, like the blue fairy in the abomination that was the Pinocchio remake
I was just about say that
@@adamfuller5640 girl, stfu and MOVE
I can’t wait for the live action bugs life with realistic bugs
Ok but that sounds rad as fuck
I fear for the day when Disney runs out of classic films to r̶u̶i̶n̶ remake, and they'll have to resort to Pixar films next.
Really hope they make sure the bug voices are white. It's scientifically impossible for an ant to be black.
@@michaelstrong5383 I can see Toy Story coming out pretty ok like that, toys walking around and talking in a live action setting inhabited by actual people would probably fit the story well since in the original movie the humans looked more plastic then the toys.
Then again, considering how Pinocchio looks in the last movie I'd rather not tempt fate.
I can’t wait for the live action Chicken Little movie
The only complaint I have (so far) is the hair color of this new Ariel is not red enough, as they kept the same tail fin and shell color like the original. I want her hair a deep ruby red!
And of course the trailer showing the undersea as darker and less color, including the sea creatures because as Jon Favreau says: REALISM
Finding Nemo has more color than this trailer!!
Maybe it would look too fake if it were ruby red also the dark lighting doesn't help
the colors in all the disney live action movies are depressing. i dont know why they do that?! i guess to make it more "realistic" but no one liked the cartoon versions because of their realism LOL
15:02 "What if Frederick Douglass was played by Tom Hanks?" FREDERICK DOUGLASS WAS A REAL PERSON, ARIEL IS A FICTIONAL MERMAID
Ok...but you seemed to miss where he pointed out that leftists have no problem with say, Hamilton which race swaps actually people. What is your response to that?
@@moonsnail3286 when historical figures are race swapped in media its usually to provide social commentary or to make a certain point
@@fucktionary7569 So you'd all be totally cool with a film about Frederick Douglass if he was played by a white actor, but at the end of the movie they make some lame social commentary about race relations? Because somehow, I feel like people would have a massive issue with that, and call it "black erasure" or some such nonsense.
@@moonsnail3286 if it was executed well and was done for the purpose of providing meaningful social commentary then tbh i wouldnt have a problem
@@fucktionary7569 Well, you are in the minority of leftists then, because I bet every cent I have that if that happened, there would be dozens of articles saying how racist it was and how historically inaccurate it was and how "this is just another example of the racist writers and casting directors taking away a minority role and giving it to a white guy". I dare you to tell me that wouldn't happen.
I don't care about Arielles skin. The movie is gonna suck either way. It kinda sucks tho that Disney keeps convincing woke kids that they care about human rights.
But I think we can all agree that a translucent Arielle would be disgusting 😂
Right because if they cared they would actually try to do an epic new thing with her where the actress could shine in her abilities
sucks that people out there are getting mad at this movie for the wrong reasons.
@@tockidy4283 last three seasons of both Doctor Who and Star Trek: Discovery as well
make her look like a see through glass tetra lmao
@@comicconcarne i have not watched those shows nor am i apart of their communities so i cant speak on that
Based on the reaction of the Pinocchio teaser, I already knew this was gonna be controversial.
To be fair to Disney, I've seen Halle Bailey in her vlogs and interviews, and the director wasn't lying about her casting. She naturally has a youthful energy and voice that carries the spirit of the original character! We'll get further along in representation once casting a black person in a role stops being seen as a controversial, woke-pandering ploy and is just seen as casting a person fit for the role. But then she started doing the National Anthem singing during an intimate moment of longing and vulnerability and I was like 🤦🏽♀️
I agree. She's obviously charasmatic and talented, a great fit for the role. It's just that the direction is awful like any of these.
it would be less controversial if it was a new movie with a new character, not changing the race of a character.
Unfortunately it came out back when “Force Awakens” was released that Disney literally does this to create a angry response and thus get free advertising. What never gets addressed is that Disney WANTS a racist response because it’s a easy way to get you movie trending online (they then turn around and cut John Boyega out of the poster and trim his role down for the Chinese market).
So hey, if the intentions were good, that would be great, that would be good. But it’s not. It’s the worst type of cynical corporatizim and often leaves the actors dangling out to dry.
@@ringbearer1420 Really? Do you happen to remember what article you read, if it was an article? I'm interested in reading/seeing that and gaining more insight.
I'd also like to point out as an actor myself, that before people made a conscious effort to have POC characters and consider POC people for roles, actors _were_ being left out to dry. If this remake were made back in the 90s (despite that not making sense, but let's say the original animated film was made even earlier- I have no doubt in my mind that young colored actresses would come in _dreaming_ to play their favorite princess that wouldn't even be considered. As I said, it's great that a woman was cast based on her talent and how much she fit the spirit of the character they were casting for. Even if they wanted a woman of color specifically, what's important is that women of color were considered and their talents acknowledged. We're progressing more than regressing. As far as leaving everyone else out, sadly, only one person can make auditions for any one role and everyone else is out of luck. That's how acting has always been. It's _always_ been tough, competitive and soul crushing.
@@patrickm70 Force Awakens was a new movie with new characters, and it didn't stop the controversy. The 2016 Ghostbusters was a new movie with new characters. If you want something not based on a franchise, Get Out and Men were _wholly_ original movies that recieved a _lot_ of controversy, despite both being great films. I think at the end of the day, bigots who will find any excuse they can to justify their discomfort in seeing people that don't look exactly like them taking the lead without being honest about their _true_ motives are the reason why these movies are so controversial.
*Edit:* They really don't remember that the hate and harassment came out FAR before the movies mentioned were released, so there was no way to tell that they'd be bad movies... Unless you just think women and poc are bad 👀
I somehow doubt a young Matt Walsh was screaming "Mommy, why isn't Ariel translucent?!!?" when the original came out.
Not seeing all her internal organs breaks my immersion, mommy!
Oh you know he was making fun out of it.
No, because the translucent thing was an obvious joke. So interesting seeing you people get caught up on a joke and not addressing his actual points when it comes to the hypocrisy of leftists on this race swapping issue.
@@moonsnail3286 Probably because sophistry doesn't deserve to be addressed. Walsh is saying whatever he can to stir up anger and outrage for an easy buck off pearlclutching conservatives. Being bothered by the color of Ariel's skin is stupid and Matt Walsh is stupid for being bothered by it, it's a stupid Disney remake no one should take seriously.
@@apollofell3925 So why do you guys get mad whenever it happens in reverse? (A white actor playing a traditionally non white role) why is that described as "erasure"? Just trying to figure out why you have a double standard if "it's just entertainment, it doesn't really matter". Also you people clearly do think the races of people in entertainment are important because you're always whining about "representation" and "diversity".
5:38 And it's really weird that she's hitting that run in a song as earnest as Part Of Your World. That note and the pause after that gives off this vibe of, "Ooh yeah. I hit that!" When it's a girl singing about her desires in a vulnerable moment
Oh my god you’re right!
I swear the only good thing about these remakes are that they show you how good the originals actually are
I can't wait for Sideways to eviscerate this film.
Melissa McCarthy is going to be Ursula. Everyone brace yourselves.
No one will beat the original voice actress...the girl playing Ariel is an amazing singer and is trained in signing so it's like...yeah she's a good fit! I also think the director is making her sing like that, cause I feel like she would wanna just sing like the original 😅
Jodi Benson was her name and she also voiced Thumbelina in Don Bluth’s film of the same name.
@Yeezus yur a cope
They keep fucking with the music in the worst way
@@FreyaEinde yeah but we still have the original so I can just ignore it and listen to the og soundtrack.
@@caleviwin That’s been my policy for every live action re-make so far and I’m without regrets
Yeah I actively cringed when she sang “be” I was like oh no we’re doing that😭
Yeah she didn't need to add those trails when signing or whatever that technique is called
i literally made the 😬 face when i heard it the first time. like her voice is lovely but it doesn’t fit the vibes!!
@@caleviwin They're called "runs".
@@jennifertrandafir yes thank you. The runs...oh my god it sounds like she has diarrhea. Who called it runs? Hahaha.
Everyone well said, it’s the fact that I’ve probably watched the original so many times as a kid that I’d like to hear it sung the same way like idk what or why they change so much like idc if she’s black can she sing it the same?? None of that was necessary and it made me hate it more?? like it had adverse effects that’s not what you want Disney😭
I don't really give a crap about any of these Disney remakes, but I still I think it will be fun to see how they will modernize some of these older songs:
HEAVY JAMAICAN ACCENT SANG BY AN AMERICAN:
"Darling it's better down where it's wetter"
"The blackfish she sings"
"Sha-la-la-la-la-la do what the music say you gotta kiss the girl"
When referring to The Princess and the Frog, Matt Walsh said “Tatiana” instead of “Tiana”. Hmmm… suspicious.
It's funny how walsh brings up The Princess and the Frog, which you'd think is a MUCH more egregious example of "blackwashing", by his own logic. You know... since it's a retelling of a GERMAN story with a MEDIEVAL EUROPEAN setting that was completely reworked to take place in 1920s Louisiana so the black main character would make more sense. But he doesn't seem to mind that one, since it's not a popular reactionary topic of outrage.
The story is about a princess and a frog. Not THE princess and the frog. It’s a coincidence many of the events played out the way they did in the movie. You might have a good argument here but that’s not it.
@@Chugargonfan Are you serious? They literally reference the book in the movie. It's the furthest thing from a coincidence.
@@franklinbadge1215 so. If they reference the book. It’s not based off the book. Is it? That’s the literal definition of coincidence.
@@Chugargonfan that's like saying "Tangled" have nothing to do with the "Rapunzel" fairytale because they are named different
@@leFonki it’s an adaptation. But princess and the frog is literally a coincidence as evidenced by the reference
I feel so bad for the actress. She's getting so much hate for this movie and being made into all these terrible memes.
Maybe the reason they have the water so dark is because when she bursts into the human world on land it will be bright and sunny? Maybe it's intentionally a juxtaposition between a world that keeps her confined and the outside world? And not just terrifying that it's the deep depths of the ocean lit like the spooky lab in the Shape of Water... I hope... but that's probably asking too much of disney because all of their movies are just gray now for some reason.
I assume they're dark to hide the bad visuals from dated cgi. I really wish they would use more practical effects and stop with the cgi fests.
It will be bad because it’s a Disney live action film that’s it. Not because black Ariel
I wonder what the science is behind singing or breathing under water
Maybe it's like in Harry Potter when she goes to the surface her voice is just painfully loud unintelligible screeching.
I think the Little Mermaid remake MW wants to see is a David Attenborough marine life documentary.
I love how Matt calls the main character from The Princess and the Frog by the wrong name. I know he didn't watch any of these films he professes to care about, but at least google it my guy
@@scooterboy4218 honestly ive heard that before, "its a joke so im actually not wrong and never made a mistake".
@@tockidy4283 i mean is not wrong in this instance if he knows the actual names and butchers it on purpose
@@juandiegotorres9632 yeah then it's just cringe
@@scooterboy4218 I always thought jokes are supposed to be funny...
At that speed, Walsh is doing a great Ben Shabibo impression
Honestly they're pretty much already the same except Walsh wants to genocide trans people even more
Wet ass P word.
With the mouth diarrhoea to match.
That's very funny. 😆👍
Adam is a 4k elitist. I'll be a 1080p peasant until my Panasonic Viera plasma screen dies in like 10 years. 4k watchers are the 1%, 1080p watchers are the 99%.
If it was 4k it would look better, even on a 1080p screen. I can tell the difference on a full hd display
4k TH-cam videos on a 1080p screen have less compression, specifically
@@rem792 I don't believe in trickle-down economics.
>laughs in 1360x768
A lot of deep sea creatures arent translucent but bright red. Because red light doesn't penetrate through water very well so by the time you get deep, there's no red light left and they don't reflect anything, making them pretty much invisible. Therefore the little mirmade should be the colour of a virtual boy. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
It's so lazy. Films like Encanto and Moana showed there is a big interest in seeing stories from all across the world, but instead of giving us a genuinely multicultural list of films, they go back to the same European stories, but cast them like they're set in New York. It's insulting. Why don't we see more stories from India, or Malaysia, or the Phillipines, or Persia, or... ANYWHERE in Africa?
Since Melissa McCarthy is Ursula, I wonder how they're going to handle Vanessa? Since Vanessa is supposed to closely resemble Ariel (enough so that Prince Eric believes she was the girl he saw when he woke up), but since Ariel is Black, and Melissa McCarthy is both white and fat, what will they do? Will they still have Vanessa be white and have it just not make much sense? Will they have Vanessa be black, and if so, would that be considered some kind of pseudo-blackface since it's really just Ursula in a disguise? I honestly thought they'd hire a black actor to play Ursula so this wouldn't be an issue.
I feel like the fat activist community will also have a huge problem if Vanessa is thin like Ariel, even tho that's how it is in the movie. I wonder if they'd go so far as to make Vanessa fat just to avoid the possible backlash? Or remove the Vanessa storyline altogether (the worst possible timeline).
Overall this movie feels like a ticking time bomb of unbearably pointless internet 'discourse' waiting to happen.
Melissa as Ursula is probably gonna be CGI'd to shit, so they'll probably just use regular Melissa as Vanessa. She basically mind controls the prince, so they'll use that to just hand wave it.
I just imagined they would cheap out and have it sort of like everyones under a spell~~~ and see hers like Ariel instead of the actual vanessa transformation.
Dude, just imagine if we gotten Morgan Freeman as Ariel.
Minds would be blown.
White readhead actress overdubbed with freemans voice, the perfect being
I have the feeling Disney decided to cast a black actor just so people would talk about the movie. I don’t think anyone would’ve even cared about this movie otherwise.
Now Disney has an online controversy so the movie is relevant.
cooperate racism at its finest
Matt Walsh must be great at kids parties. I can imagine him going around a mermaid party yelling at kids for appropriating his culture.
@@donovanlocust1106 Mermaid culture, i guess
Your imagination is limited.
Disney sucks, but idiots also suck. The defense I've seen is that making Ariel black is disrespectful to the original Danish folklore. Okay, but was there a talking lobster in the original folklore? In that case, why not get mad at the '89 film?
Anyone who complains that fables and folklore get changed doesn't really understand them.
@@zackcolbourne6921 and you understand them? That's bullshit
Tbh I wouldn't cast white people to play native Americans, and clearly the original mermaid was white even in the original story lol...so yeah you proooooobably should cast a white person to play her...but even if you did, people would still hate it. So it doesn't matter.
Oops I read this wrong rip. But yes I've seen this everywhere and it's like? Mermaids arent just for the Danish folklore, there were also black mermaids. There is more info on where they come from but I gotta look more into it
Because they don’t actually care about any of that, they’re just racist
The actors are always so stiff and awkward on these remakes. These movies were made to be animated.
True. But it's not so much the actors' as the massive amount of CGI, and having to perform while looking at a tennis ball.
Walsh's take of "OH BUT IF WE MADE PRINCESS AND THE FROG A WYPIPO YOU WOULD BE MAAAAAAAAAD" is a false equivalence. In the Princess and the Frog, Tiana being black was integral to the story. She experienced discrimination that was strongly implied to be born out of racial prejudice. She also grew up in New Orleans' black culture.
In The Little Mermaid, it literally makes no fucking difference if Ariel is any other race than white. She's a fictional creature in a fairytale setting. You could argue that maybe it's weird a very small population of non-human creatures is racially diverse, but it doesn't matter. The movie tells the story of Ariel being thirsty for humans, it doesn't delve into mermaid immigration and ethnic census. She could straight up be a vaguely anthropomorphic fish like Flounder and it wouldn't matter.
The fact that the most replayed part of the trailer is the very beginning tells you how many people clicked on the trailer just to dislike or write an angry comment without even watching it
That doesn't make sense, if you think about it.
I dont think it counts unless you actually rewind the video once it past that part. Its more likely because the teaser is so short, people kept rewinding to see it from the start.
@@JoJo-is-the-name maybe, I'd need to know if other teaser trailers also have a spike right at the start
It's so convenient that Morgan Freeman was "the best man for the role" in the Shawshank Redemption, but the actress for Ariel isn't, despite the movie not being out yet. And then he immediately goes on to accuse others of having double standards.
"Oh but they race swapped her deliberately", but that doesn't factor into her qualification for the role, unless you think only a white person has the skills necessary to play Ariel.
Coz Morgan Freeman is in like half of every Hollywood movie. (Other half is Sam Jackson)
I can believe that they wanted to cast Morgan Freeman coz he's a good actor.
But with this they have already decided to go with a non white person.
@@WL1264 Again, just because they deliberately cast a black person, doesn't make her unqualified or less qualified
@@franklinbadge1215 I'm not saying this actress isn't qualified tho. They just have an "agenda" to make em black
@@WL1264 They have an agenda to make money. This is new to you?
@@franklinbadge1215 lol u sure about that? Recently with the gay stuff they're hurting themselves.
"i'm feeling zero emotions for this" That is the ideal reaction. Even feeling anger lets Disney have power over you in a way.
I legit thought Flounder was a plastic bag floating along after Ariel at first. Beautiful.
In any case, this movie does not look good, and I will not be seeing it, but the controversy is ridiculous and I feel for the young actress bearing the brunt of it.
My biggest concern is what they're going to do with all the animal characters. Like I really dont want a realistic looking crab singing kiss the girl, ya know?
I bet Sebastian won't be included in the story at all, like the dragon mushu in mulan
@@Misspol222 sebastian will be played by daveed diggs, from hamilton
This kind of conversation when it comes to casting gets really blurred. I personally don't care if a fictional character a lá Ariel, James Bond, Batman, etc. is played by an actor with a different race compared to the original, as long as their good in the role then I don't care. If we're talking about fictional or historical characters where their racial/ethnic background is a part of the story, then the proper representation is important. Having a white guy play Malcolm X or a black guy play Bruce Lee, it would obviously not work from both a historical and story perspective. It's a tough conversation to have, mostly because the emotions surrounding it are so heightened that you can't really participate without it being civil or respectful.
Even at 2x speed Matt Walsh blathering about "da luft and laberals" makes me lose brain cells.
He needs to be somebody else.
So you just dismissed all the points he made? Interesting choice. It's almost like you have no real rebuttal.
@@moonsnail3286 1. I tapped out this comment in like 15 seconds cause I was at work and have better things to do.
2. He made no real points, everything he says boils down to "I'm mad they put a black in the lead role, it belongs to a white girl! The blacks and the gays and the liberals are destroying our culture!". Then jerking himself off that he upset some nobodys on Twitter.
Imagine trying to use biology to justify why its wrong and impossible for a mermaid (a fantasy creature that doesnt exist) to be a black person. Its not as if they're making some historical film where George Washington is played by a black lady. Fucks sake lol.
3. Matt Walsh doesn't want a discussion. I doubt he gives a single fuck about Disney films. Best case he just wants to tell his target audience what they want to hear so they'll watch.
At worst he genuinely believes that "American culture" (straight white religious) is being destroyed because media increasingly acknowledges that non white and non straight people exist and that's ok.
@@moonsnail3286 mermaids ain't real. there.
@@smaakjeks Also not a real rebuttal, the Ghost in the Shell cyborgs aren't real either and that didn't stop you leftists from throwing a fit over the casting of Scarlett Johansson in the lead role. Address why you have double standards about race swapping in fictional media.
“That’s crypto bullshit” is a wonderful catch all phrase for bs internet posturing 😂
"Sing the song, but like, let's put a little spin on it. That'll be good, right?" -Jon or whoever worked on this one
Bunch of grown straight men dying on the hill of their favorite cartoon mermaid😂 we truly live in a society
She definitely is part of that collective "Why?" we all feel when watching the trailer.
As far as the controversy goes, I can see why some people would criticize Disney for making Ariel black. Having black protagonists is great and all that, but it seems like a very cynical way to be representative and get support for being politically correct when we all know the trope about gay characters in Disney that can be easily edited out for Chinese audiences. It's all superficial and cynical, so it just feels disingenuous, and then "Everyone who criticizes this movie for looking bad is racist" becomes the defense to gather support.
So again, not criticizing the fact that they made Ariel black, I don't really care, but it seems like the whole controversy was cynically predicted and probably intentional, just to drum up some PR around this movie that just looks wholly uninteresting.
>4 new songs?
>they made 4 original songs in the Atlantica stage for Kingdom Hearts 2
Hmmm 🤔
I honestly want to see a Kingdom Hearts anime on Disney+ someday.
@@donovanlocust1106 Fffffffffffffffffffinny fun!
you can see where they extended those notes from a mile away.
examples:
"arabian naaaaaaaaaa-ihts' - Will "the slap" Smith, 1st 5 minutes of aladin.
"of luuuuuuuu-ife" - that singer, 1st 5 minutes of LK19
"part of that weeeeeee-ld" - this actor, the new "Little Mermaid".
I mean yeah, those are the longest notes and also at the end of the phrase
@@Red-jl1qr I didn't mean "long", I meant "artificially extended".
@@אביתרשטראוס yeah. I mean I don't really like it, but there's a reason why they choose those notes specifically
@@Red-jl1qr interesting text placement
@@Steinmur don't know why it did that tbh
I’m glad you called out the showy pop-star singing moment. I started the trailer saying to myself “I’ll give this a shot, regardless of the talk about it, it might be good….” Then she launched into that ridiculous pop-singing bit, and I turned it off. I was done.
“Just sing the #%*@ song!” was the perfect way to put it.
Sped up Matt Walsh is the only way to make him palatable
I'm not technically mad about her race, it's fine to have a black female lead. The only problem is that they're doing this stuff in remakes all the time because instead of making new and good likable character, they change races of others and they count it as representation. Why can't you just have a brand new movie that has both a black lead and all black cast and make it entertaining with a good story and good characters instead of making terrible remakes with race-swapped main characters. Again this doesn't mean it's wrong to have someone who's black be a main character in a movie, but why, why does Disney do this though? Plus tbh we already know that even if they kept her white it would've been bad either way, just as a reminder that a majority of Disney remakes have been pretty awful.
They do remakes because they make a shit ton of money. Original stories are a risk
I know but still. The ONLY good thing about these movies is seeing the iconic frames of animation realized irl. Beauty and the beast got it. It was a shit movie but we got the ballroom scene and beast fighting and stuff. Alladin got it and I really liked it. But little mermaid, can’t have it. It sucks imo
@@Chugargonfan I mean I do agree they can look good I guess
I'm not excited for this movie. Not because Ariel is black, I couldn't care less about that. I'm not excited because Disney live action remakes are terrible.
Walsh seriously grasping straws to be THAT upset, Christ.
He's gotta stay relevant in the Twitter space, or else his entire career will go belly up!
Really sad that this is how he makes his living.
@@mindshuffler3332 Walsh: something something biology doesn’t make sense
Wait… This man believes mermaids aren’t a myth?
its really funny when you remember we're talking abt a kids movie that is geared toward little girls
@@someidiot420 Even content intended for children can be good for older audiences.
His outrage is so calculated that you can’t even hear an authentic anger anywhere.
4:55 Speaking of that sorta thing, a really good example of that was when Rita Ora did a cover of Running Up That Hill at a concert recently, and that clip alone exemplifies your issue with how Halle Bailey sung in that trailer
"If I only coOoOuUuUld make a deEeEeEeEeAaAaAal with GoOoOoOoOoOoOod"
They can make the mermaid whatever color they want......it won't stop the movie from being horrible soulless nostalgia bait garbage.
I’m particularly getting a kick out of the fact that his “science” isn’t even particularly accurate. The fact that blue light doesn’t reach the ocean floor means that creatures can be translucent, yes, but they can also be red and black depending on the depth. Just google before you racism, man
I dont think this is racism, its just immense stupidity.
You know, all the OTHER glaring problems aside, what bothers me most is how the WATER she is in has no bearing on sound. It works animated, in animation it is easier to suspend disbelief. In live action, WHY IS THE WATER SO THIN AND BUBBLE-FREE
The destruction of Ursula is going to break me! She’s something special & Melissa McCarthy isn’t worthy.
Finally someone that is actually watching the trailer and not just giving Disney their inclusivity points. The CGI looks shit like every other life action movie and it bothers me that none is talking about it. It looks lifeless and sad AF.
Giving Disney inclusivity points ?
@@Galvatronover Idk how to phrase it. Is when we ignore all the shit a company does just because they are ✨ inclusive✨ 🤷🏽
@@gart005 disney is definitely not getting ignored
Bruh
Race swapping is only ok if the character's race isn't integral to the character's story.
Is being black integral to the character's story? Don't change their race.
Is being white integral to the character's story? Don't change their race.
Ariel's story is about being a mermaid that falls in love with a human. Her race isn't a part of her story, therefore it's alright to change her race if people really want to. I, personally, think we should just make more original stories about people of color rather than do race swap remakes, however, Ariel being black isn't the big atrocity or scientific inaccuracy that Matt Walsh makes it out to be. If they had changed her from a mermaid into another fictional creature, then that would be different, because her being a mermaid is actually integral to her story.
Also, let's be real, this movie is gonna suck because it's a live action Disney remake, not because any of the characters have been race swapped.
No, its not
Get your racist ass out of here please and now
You summarize my entire view on the situation. Thank you
Orcas are black and white because it serves as camouflage. If you look down at the sea from above, they are very hard to spot unless they come up for air and if you are looking up from the bottom to the surface, they are also hard to spot. Same with dolphins, although they are more greyish in colour.
Looks like a horror movie ngl
Holy shit, Walsh really went the "Race exclusion because biology" route, and I had immediate whiplash to Zootopia when Judy was giving that interview and stated she believed the predators were going savage because of biology. Wow. Just wow.
My usual take on the matter is, the more iconic the character, the more distracting it is to change the character design, and skin color IS part of character design.
Also, I just find it funny that yet another red head got replaced. Rip red heads.
Edit: Thanks to the comments, I just learned who’s playing Ursula. Oh dear.
I know that this will be a difficult thing to handle, but it's actually quite unusual to find black people to be a distraction. You might wanna think about why that is. Is there something about your fantasy world that precludes non-whites?
@@PlatinumAltaria Lol, I really don’t want to justify your comment with a response, simply because of how ridiculous it is, but to clarify, it’s not specifically cause she’s black. To me it’s no different than the distracting costume change Robocop got in that crappy reboot, or if in a shitty alternate reality, Brad Pitt played Blade.
Now shoo. Take your nonsensical assumptions else where.
@@RanOutOfSpac Honest people aren't scared of someone challenging them.
@@PlatinumAltaria Idk, I’d be pretty scared if a random dude on a subway challenged me.
Put your fortune cookies away and watch a movie or something.
@@RanOutOfSpac I can never enjoy movies, black and brown people keep coming on the screen and I have to go on a 15 hour rant about the decline of America. That or women, I mean when did we start letting them act? Aren't they supposed to be home raising kids? They've probably got an illegal nanny taking care of them!
This is not very far from how you sound, and you seem completely uninterested in even slight introspection.
Ariel didn't need to be black for me to avoid this movie like COVID. I still would have avoided it regardless! XD
To be realistic, not all riffs and runs are "showy bullshit." Talented performers understand that strategically placed riffs are a form of emotional/dramatic emphasis. When an actor has to speak the same line more than once, the appropriate choice is to provide different emphasis on the repeated phrases to convey importance and emotion. Since Ariel sings that exact line ("wish I could be part of your world") multiple times in that song, the riff is strategically placed on the final iteration of the line to both differentiate it from previous iterations AND to provide emotional emphasis so that her desire to "be part of that world" is highlighted.
Yep riffs and runs are amazing and they're part of what makes stuff like r&b and gospel music so amazing, I really like watching his videos but I hate how much he just hates on any kind of vocal acrobatics automatically.
If the LM lived that far down that her skin was translucent her swim bladder would explode when she went to the surface due to the change in pressure. And that would be a fucking awesome movie.
The original Jake from State Farm wasn't "fired". He quit some what, twelve years ago?
He was in a commercial with the new Jake a while ago
I love how these live action remakes will be looked back upon as the biggest stain on Disney's reputation. Like, the direct to video sequels were cheap trash, but they knew what they were, they were products made to cash in on the direct to video market at the time and nothing more. These live action remakes I would argue are worse because they take up SO much time and money and whatnot at Disney and they absolutely blow. I'm sure they'll have a cult following of kids growing up now who'll have a soft spot for them and, honestly, I can't blame them for that; I have the same affinity for some of the direct to video sequels or the Star Wars Prequels. That doesn't make these good. What I am taken aback by is just HOW ugly these movies are. They're either super dark with harsh shadows and muddy colors that make it look like an early 2000s horror movie, or they're so washed out and overexposed they look like District 9. The sheer incompetence of this studio to butcher their catalog like this over and over is baffling. The ones coming out now don't even have an heir of grandeur to them anymore. Mulan and Pinocchio in particular were unbridled disasters. I hope that once Disney gets all of these remakes already in production out of the way, they'll just stop and pit their focus back into their animated stuff which has always blown the remakes out of the water. Ralph Breaks the Internet may be an equally awful cash grab as the remakes, but at least it doesn't make me want to remove my eyes with a spoon.
Can’t wait to see the photorealistic Sebastian the crab singing Under the Sea!
What an obnoxious state of discourse we’re stuck in. It feels like yet another soulless movie trying to capitalize on Disney adults, the issue isn’t that someone who isn’t white is playing the cartoon mermaid. But you can’t find any substance because everyone’s distracted about “muh culture wars”
After learning that Melissa McCarthy is playing Ursula I will not even attempt to go close to this film.
I can explain the “wahrld” pronunciation. Usually singers do that to open up their throat. It makes singing higher notes easier, and is usually unnoticeable when you aren’t watching them sing.
This means she probably couldn’t hit the note while singing the “O” in “world”, and instead was told to sing it as “wahrld”.
At least, that’s what I assume as a person who has had voice coaching before. My father actually gave me that advice once for a different song. He was coached by the same licensed opera coach as i was when he was a kid, and got the lead roles in almost every play he’s auditioned for, so he knows how to sing.
I don’t think it’s that she couldn’t hit the note, seeing that she is very vocally capable. It’s just modern vowel placement. Even in the original, the singer doesn’t use a string o for world because it would make the line harsh:)
I hope this gets released in theaters and makes no money.
You just know it's gonna and make so much money
Why?
its gonna make over a billion dollars like Aladdin and Lion King
That would be great, but that's not the world we live in. If The Lion King remake can make a billion dollars in the box office, then so will this remake too unfortunately.
@@michaelstrong5383 is Little Mermaid as beloved as TLK was? It’ll still make money, but I don’t think it’ll hit a billion.