After she made the "you cant speculate about people's sexualities unless they're famous or Peppermint Patty" joke, I was honest to god expecting a Family Guy style cutaway gag
I can't wait for the scene where the Norville gets his hair messed up and everyone goes "Omg, look at your hair! It looks so Shaggy!" and they all look at the camera.
Your comment reminds me of that particular scene in the failed DmC reboot, where DoNTE gets a white wig on his hair, making him looking exactly like the original Dante from Devil May Cry! His reply? "Not in a million years"
The mindless violence joke was funny. And then it stopped being funny one second later when Velma explained it. And then it somehow became even less funny two seconds later when Velma explained it A Second Time.
I can't remember where, but I definitely saw that part of the show before and it didn't have the giant "Mindless Violence" sticker over it. It just showed her skull open up without a brain in it or something. It also didn't have the music in the background so the tone was a bit different.
And a bunch of classic Looney Tunes episodes. Imagine using THE flagship franchise of your company, the one with your mascot in it, for a tax write-off.
Maybe there's a scene where Norville has a dog and he asks Velma if he could take him along to solve the mystery and Velma will probably say, "No, we're not taking a dog with us to solve our murder mystery. What do you think this is a cartoon?"
I'm only watching it if Adam makes a watchalong, and even then I'm tempted to just use the watchalong as a podcast and not watch the show anyway because I'm afraid of the cringe overload
This series looks so spiteful and mean-spirited. There needs to be a word for content like this, who’s only punchline is that the audience is stupid and the world is stupid and the best you can be is aloof and critical all the time.
Panmissism. Taking the "pan" prefix meaning everything as in words like pantheism and pansexual and the "mis" prefix for hatred as in words like misogyny and misanthropy.
Writers have made us love characters who are black, brown, white, green, male, female, neurodivergent, LGBTQ, trees, and various shade of animal. They've yet to make us love boring, poorly written characters, which is something these shows desperately need to learn.
Not to mention these characters races were changed for the actors to self insert themselves. It was never about just “having a black character in the show” it’s changing characters like Velma who’s canonically white
@@legalza0843 when it comes to entirely fictional characters, I tend to go by the cell phone test. You couldn't give Robin Hood a cell phone and have him still be Robin Hood. You also couldn't swap his race or gender and still have it be the same story. You COULD give Velma a cell phone. There's no real reason she COULDN'T be black or brown. It could be the same story. The race swap isn't what pisses me off; it's that the only purpose of the story IS the race swap. It's for a board room to signal that they're hip with the kids and their politics and jokes. And It's horrible.
@@legalza0843 right, that's what irks me. I'm not black but i'm autistic. if we had a cast of characters that were canonically not neurodivergent, and they were changed to act 'more autistic' (self-insert or otherwise) and that's their big character trait that would be awful. it would feel weird. Being autistic OR not autistic makes you who you are. Even if white people still take up a majority of a show- that character being white makes them who they are. We can still be better about being inclusive but shows like this just feel like getting a potato on Halloween. its funny at first and then you realize every one else is getting those great full sized candy bars. Is it really that hard to ask for a new show that has well written people of a minority? Give us new characters that we can love or care about. Slapping "minority paint" on a character just feels too weird for me, and lazy.
I mean, imagine if the Daily Wire remade Ghostbusters, made it somehow worse than the 2016 version, and not only made Winston white, but made every joke about how he was white. COULD Winston have been white? Absolutely. Zero changes required. Does that alone make for a good film? No. It's actually kinda lame.
@@RyguyTheGreat22 My guess is that he's going to end up being a junkie as one of the edgy jokes and "earn" the name Shaggy. We'll probably get Scooby in the season finale.
Exactly what I was thinking lol. This just Mindy telling her own self inserted story ideas(albeit very cringey) while using the Mystery gang as a base(most likely to get more eyes on her show).
reminds me of the last Matrix movie. You can tell Lana Wachowski felt like such a rebel putting in all those "down with the Hollywood system" lines, as if the whole thing wasn't reviewed and approved by Warner Bros executives.
@@jiggycalzone8585 Eh. I wouldn't say that. I'd say the acting was definitely more enjoyable than the writing. The meta saved some of it, kind of. Warner Bros made her make a movie, or she wanted it to look like she was made to make the movie, either way the entire film was making fun of and hating itself for existing, constantly making fun of reboots and their tropes while bringing back old and new characters with very little and very convoluted introduction. Some parts were enjoyable, but even if this was a corporate cash grab the fans showed up for a Matrix movie. Instead it was an hour and a half of meta commentary on how much she hated making this movie, whether she really hated it or not. It wasn't for the fans, it wasn't even for casual moviegoers, it was for Warner Bros and her protest against Warner Bros. She crammed in some good ideas for a continuation, but then just didn't build on them at all because no, they made me do this dumb reboot guys, look how dumb it is. Look he said the line, isn't that dumb? While also repeatedly going, Look he said the line, isn't that cool? The only memorable parts for me were between Neo and Trinity, if they spent the same amount of time building up their rekindled romance and the tragedy being put back in the machines (ya know, the plot) as they did on meta commentary, it could've been a really heartfelt and nostalgic ending for these characters, seeing two characters prove that their love is unstoppable and their nature is avoidable as they continued to rage against the machine. Instead we got something far less satisfying and far more forgettable.
@@SuperMegaGaelourde I enjoyed the meta elements up until Neo was freed from The Matrix. Up until then, the meta elements were done in a way I hadn't seen before which built on the idea of The Matrix. After that, I felt it went straight downhill into what I worried the movie would be. The movie just did the things it was criticising without any twist and just lampshaded it, except for a few times when it came up with an interesting twist to a concept but then had a character explain it a couple seconds later.
You obviously dont understand that Fred can't see non-hot girls because he has a condition. Remember all those other jokes about dudes who can only see hot girls? It's like those, but it's different. Because he has a condition. Condition are inherently funny. Especially when you keep referencing them. Did you know he has a condition?
I don't think Mindy Kaling was embarrassed when recording her lines: _she's the executive producer of the show._ She had to have wanted it this way, or it wouldn't have been produced this way.
>"This is MY show, told MY way" Thank you, Velma™ writer. We got that so very, VERY important message from the last trailer, but telling us explicitly AGAIN *really* drives it home.
It was really progressive of them to make the blonde guy a stuck up douchebag, even though he wasn't anything like that in the original. Finally a show that doesn't rely on stereotypes based on physical appearance.
that honestly made me sad. Fred always gave me friendly jock vibes, not bully jock vibes. It was a nice twist on how bigger guys can also be nice, good leaders. He always compliments his friends and even though shaggy and scooby get scared easy he almost always pairs them together since they like being close.
LITERALLY. The fact that they missed that and straight up made him a stereotype based on his appearance after constantly criticizing “stereotypes” based on gender, race, S O C I E T Y whatever, is so amazingly ironic
@@GippyHappy so what stereotype is white guy with ascot exactly lmfao “If you don’t agree with my imaginary fantasy world that I’m angry about in my head then you don’t have literacy skills” LiterL 2 year old logic Use your words honey
This show feels like a Mindy vanity project (shocking, i know) where she's the main character that is smarter than everyone else around and just goes around spouting one liners hoping people will laugh, but since nobody is going to watch that they just put a cheap Scooby-Doo coat of paint on top of it hoping to make people mad and entice them to watch it out of spite
Calling it now, they're going to have an episode where Velma has to track down the haters and they're going to be your stereotypical basement dwelling trolls. Maybe an actual troll. How do we know that's exactly what would happen? Because *Birdgirl* did it, and that show's written with the same brand of "humor" as this. Edit: I'm being a canary in the coalmines here watching Episode 1. It starts out with a censored shower scene, Daphne saying "As an Asian woman" and trying to justify the race swap, and the woman without a brain is bloodlessly dead. Also the animation is *exactly* on par with Brickleberry. Velma's dad could have straight up come from there.
Basically the only time something almost like this has almost worked is when "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend," after receiving some flak for breaking up the characters Darryl and White Josh (his name makes sense in the context of the show,) responded with the musical number "The Groupmind Has Decided You're In Love." It worked because all of the characters taking part in the number were pre-established characters who had already expressed their own feelings about the breakup, and also that it descended into a parody of the overly long dance scenes from Rodgers and Hammerstein's "Oklahoma!" halfway through so there were jokes beyond "Take that fans!" It's generally regarded by fans as one of the best numbers from the very well regarded final season.
@@ralelunar pathetic how they have to convince themselves everyone who makes fun of their poorly written, sanitized corporate schlock is a mentally ill basement dweller. Most of us just took five minutes or fewer to point and laugh at it.
Harley Quinn had an episode where it was about Batman and it started with fat Snyder nerds saying they wouldn’t watch the Harley Quinn show because why would they watch a Batman show without Batman.
Does anyone remember the Tramp Stamps? That alternative girl band that had all of their music about how girls rule and boys drool, only to be exposed as an industry plant? That’s what this feels like.
“I have a disease where I can’t recognize people who aren’t hot.” She legitimately made Fred like this because he’s the only character she didn’t change the race of, and he’s straight, blonde, and white. Fred has never been that insufferable in any adaptation other than maybe the live action, and it was at least a self aware and charming parody to an extent. Adum should not feel bad for Mindy in this, she wrote and produced this puke.
It's a very bitchy/feminine comment. Fred is arrogant in a tradiotionally masculine fashion. For him to mock or bully Velma in that way is utterly cartoonish. It would have been funnier of him to hit on her because he didn't even remember who she was from school. It would add to the idea that velma is never really recognised for her contribution. And making Fred somewhat connected to the previous itterations of his character.
they made fred into a twink lmao. I suspect kaling is overcompensating by bastardizing fred's character; she's has gotten clowned on in the past for having her self-insert character from The Mindy Project exclusively date white men
@@kerrell95 I wouldn't say it's feminine, to say that being verbally cruel is feminine is just as sexist making Fred into this. A character who appears to be a parody of straight white men being stereotypically misogynistic, arrogant, and entitled. Which is sexist, misogynistic, and depending on where they go, racist.
No, he hates drugs because he's a black character who totally isn't a stereotype because that would be unwoke and they're aware of it so they want to make the audience stop to think "Oh wow that's so cool, Shaggy is typically known as a stoner character but now that he's black he's not a stoner character anymore, that's so smart and anti-racist, woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow!"
There is no way this show started off as a Scooby Doo show, someone gave a pitch about a modern diverse mystery solving teen group and the executives liked the idea but were too afraid to make an original IP so they tacked a scooby doo label on it pissing off just about everyone so now instead. show runners would get so much less hate if their companies just let them go with their original ideas, you can't tell me the best idea any these minority creators have are "lets make X gay/girl/black/etc"
"you can't tell me the best idea any these minority creators have are "lets make X gay/girl/black/etc" Its been like this for the last 10 years for comics, cartoons or video games, modern stuff its shit and this is one of the main reason why. The other big one is how cheap modern western animation looks, and the final nail in the coffin is this need to despise the audience like this show does hiding behind the "sexist/homophobe/racist" shield. Its shit and they are deluded cowards, thats the end of it.....
It does feel that way since the characters (at least the male ones) don’t really feel like themselves and Scooby ain’t in it. And you know when this show fails, those same execs are going to blame it’s failure on “ppl don’t wanna see woke stories” which is depressing as hell
It feels more like it was always intended to be Scooby Doo, just the showrunner wanted to do a cynical dismantling of it as is all the rage these days with these older IPs. Pitch it as 'adult' and boast it's full of crass humor and violence and write it specifically to spite the original audience and fans. We're seeing it a lot now- the sentiment that the people who make the brand profitable are enemies to attack. Yes none of what's shown feels like it belongs in Scooby Doo and could totally just swap the names and be its own IP that would stand on its own, but that was never the point, it specifically had to be attacking Scooby The network though also shows they have little faith in it by not letting it have Scooby Doo, the actual mascot of the IP and the character who matters most. Strip him out and it stops being "Scooby Doo" entirely and easily forgotten about later.
I love it when creators pet on their backs once they made a half way decent joke. Not annoying at all. can't wait for Velma to explain all the jokes in this show 💀
The last South Park game had a brilliant punchline about HP Lovecraft that they spent a lot of dialog building up to...then it's all ruined three seconds later when they explain it.
@@cookiemocher388 If you're going to point that out, you should probably also point out the mistake, especially since it might be a non-native English speaker. Otherwise it's just kind of a dickish comment to make.
7:00 The joke is the fact that everyone assumes Shaggy is a stoner so the fact that this Shaggy says he hates drugs is an obvious play on the idea that the original Shaggy was most likely on drugs all of the time. I imagine the show will double down on this and he will have drug trip sequence where he imagines a dog named Scooby Doo can talk to him.
what's gonna happen is that he's gonna be straightlaced for the whole show until the very end where he tries drugs for the first time, gets high, then becomes a stoner.
Scooby doo wont be appearing in this show at all, because warner brothers wouldn't give hbomax the rights to the character, so if they do make any joke about dog sidekicks, it'll probably be *very* vague
Remember, we live in a time where this gets greenlit and Venture Brothers gets the axe. The absolute state of adult animation mirrors the actual state of Michigan and its third world infrastructure...
This shit is like Gotham all over again. I hate when big studios think the gimmick of just taking an IP and taking the most recognizable character out is a great original idea. It's just a waste of time tbh.
“What was that joke? what does that mean? What does that mean? What are you saying?” Watching Adum’s brain breaking actually made this trailer worthwhile 😂
The fact that Fred is not played by Frank Welker is the most unforgivable part. Edit: After seeing more clips from this show, I'm glad that Welker didn't voice this horrendous version of Fred.
Fred in the og show was voiced by seasoned and uberly talented voice actor: FRANK WELKER! And Fred wasn't a braindead dummy, he was the level-headed leader of the group
Yep as I remembered him he stylised himself for an American hero, and he deserved it the role as a leader. Same for Daphne, I don't remember her being stupid per se. While she did play into stereotype of that girl that overly cares about looks, she also was competent. This team in general feels like if a group of friends decided to cosplay Scooby Do for Halloween, and then actual ghosts appeared.
Yeah my memory of Scooby Doo has been from the old "Where are you?" cartoons, but isn't he supposed to be like something like a boy scout? Natural leader and loyal to his friends but a bit bossy? If anyone was vein it was Daphne but she balances it out with sharp wit and charisma. Oh well, I guess Glenn Howerton is getting paychecks an actor who I absolutely enjoy, but it must suck though to be apart of a project that's just pretty widely disliked.
I'm honestly upset they didn't make Fred black if they wanted to make one character black anyway. Like you're really gone make the cowardly Stoner black? Real Progressive there HBO MAX.
anyone kinda bothered by them not realizing Shaggy gets his name from his shaggy unkempt hair? this version looks like he just went to the barber yesterday
Also based on the trailer shaggy isn’t at all the one we’ve come to know he is way too capable and brave to be shaggy and he doesn’t even have the voice or speech patterns Like atleast for Velma it’s an ok impersonation
This trailer made me happy that Scooby isn't in this show. Considering how the other ""Mystery Inc"" characters are written, I can't imagine what they would have done to him.
@@blujaebird From what I've read, not only is it because the studio demanded it, but it's also because the crew didn't know how to make an "adult take" on Scooby-Doo as a character.
Adam hit the nail on the head. This should be entirely different from Scooby Doo. Mike Tyson had his own Scooby Doo parody and it worked out pretty well.
The idea of a professional editor having to be led through the footage with the jokes highlighted for them so that they can do the punchy music cuts is hilarious
The IGN review said that Fred had always had this underlying psychopathy. I'm not sure where they got that, but they also said that the voicing acting is better for him than it's ever been. That is a real insult to the legendary Frank Welker.
I think people must be projecting psychopathy onto Fred as a way to glance over the fact that more often then not, he's kind of boring, with only a few series like Mystery Incorporated trying to make him stand out.
@@MrClams2 It's like creating the Witcher series without the Witcher, or a LOTR one with no proper hobbits and with weird elves, or a Star Trek one that only has bare minimum ship action and is barely a sci-fi show, or a main Star Wars movie without a proper Skywalker... I think you get the idea.
And potatoez saying that no one cares about Scooby Doo anymore is false. Scooby Doo is one of best classic cartoons that I’ll occasionally go back and watch for some laughs and personal enjoyment with my friends.
This show is equivalent to Adums channel being hacked by Dhar Mann and Dhar Mann is just spending every episode he uploads lecturing us on how we have to like his videos now that it’s on Adums channel.
If there's a plot twist at the end of season 1 that Norville has been keeping Shaggy in his basement as a slave, and Velma's friends have to kill Norville to free the real Shaggy, I won't be mad
@@The-Khandor-of-Kalakuta Would explain his obsession with food (making up for years of nothing but mouldy bread and stale water) and cowardly mannerisms (at the slightest disobedience, Norville would beat him with a tire iron) , too.
@@janberkemeier7406 knowing the writer's they probably would do something like that. but kill the real shaggy instead of saving him because fuck the fans.
The "You can't speculate someone's sexuality unless it's a celebrity or Peppermint Patty" line has the same energy as the complete nothingness that was the "Demi Lovato is nonbinary. Good for them" line from the Prince. Edit: Scratch that, basically all "social commentary" in this show boils down characters saying absolutely nothing.
I remember rolling my eyes at the "Mindless Violence" censor because I remember one of the earliest images used to tease this show was that exact image except uncensored. It was painfully obvious that they realized that one of the main criticisms they would be receiving is the shows shallow view of adult content and decide to brush it off as "Oh, but we KNOW it's mindless violence." If you knew that then why did you decide that this would be a prominent tone in your show? This whole series feels like it's going to be nothing but out of touch humor meant to boast the writers' own egos.
Didnt know the scooby doo spinoff needed twerking and 420. Irony is this couldve been really funny if they played into the jokes abt the original scooby doo show, like shaggy ironically saying he doesnt like drugs, which i thought was actually funny. But no, its a high school drama. call it "13 Reasons Why You Would Do It for a Scooby Snack"
Why did the Scooby-Doo franchise get handed over to people that absolutely hate their fanbase? I'm not even opposed to having spin-offs that try new things, but they keep pulling the most faux-progressive pandering that they use to deflect any criticism as bigotry. This show feels like it was made in 2016, but took 7+ years to come out. I don't even like using the work "woke" because it's lost all meaning by now, but this is the epitome of a woke pandering cash-grab.
I agree with you 100%! I’ve seen better race swap scooby doo aus done done by fans. Kinda wish they work on a Scoby Doo project, but instead we get this crap.
Scooby Doo without Scooby Doo... or anyone else really. Who is this even for? It keeps happening, too. They twist a greasy log onto an established audience, then calls them hateful for holding their noses. Ghostbusters but its bad improv, Space Jam but without the creativity, Star Wars without... anything planned, I guess. Can't wait for Indy 5 to have a laugh track and snarky sidekick who gets more screentime than Indiana Jones. Oh, and they gotta explain his name, too. Maybe he was born in Indiana.
My conspiracy theory was that the show was going to be some generic adult animation detective "comedy," but WB said "Make it Scooby Doo. We don't care how or what you do with it. Just use the characters" because hate-watching is a thing, thus there is a guaranteed audience now.
That joke in particular is so frustrating because you could have had an actual punchline with Fred. _Norville:_ "The rules feel a bit muddy." _Velma:_ "Muddy? Oh, sorry I'm not a drunk on the verge of losing custody like every other woman solving crimes these days." _Fred, walking in from off-screen:_ "Hey, be positive! I'm sure you'll be one someday." Then just show Norville smirking and Velma looking fucking astonished, and you've got a passable joke.
@@kimifw58 what? The quote doesn’t say that evil simply copies it specifically states it copies then corrupts. He didn’t affect it so therefor the quote is fine. Had he tried to change the quote into something lesser then it would have been ironic.
I like the term Sarah Z used which is "Sacrificial Trash" to refer to shows or movies like this. They get used as proof that shows that lean more progressive are bad, despite the fact that there are tons of good shows that also have representation and bad shows that don't have it. In the end, the people who hate the show for being "woke" would've hated it regardless of if it was good, but it validates them because it’s bad. Idk I think people of every group should be allowed to make bad shows without it meaning anything about the validity of their identities or anything like that.
yeah, the reasons these writers are obnoxious have absolutely nothing to do with race why can't I just say their show sucks without joining a political party
@@Zonedoutallthetime because thier entire show and marketing hinges on the fact that if you dislike it; you're the political enemy du jour. (See Ghostbusters)
I don't think these shows are used as proof that progressive-leaning shows are bad. They're used to show that shows become bad when politics become more important than good story, and that is very common especially in progressive media lately, and this is inherently related to the core ideals of identity politics: because identity markers such as race, sex, sexuality etc are seen as a more important essential part of an individual than their character, their actions, their motivations and experiences as a person. This is reflected in the way the writers write both character and narrative. Mostly because these writers don't actually come from writing schools, they come from gender studies and critical studies in general, and don't know how to actually write stories. These are the bad examples of those that put politics over story. Plenty of good examples exist, with well-done representation and even left/prog-leaning political undertones, but they still focus on writing a good STORY. The problem is when politics become the main motivation for making the show, and when the representation vs bigotry becomes your only defense. Pretty much any anti-progressive angry TH-cam manchild nerd like The Critical Drinker will often and gladly point out positive examples of representation, AS LONG AS THE STORY IS GOOD. But identity politics has a very inherent tendency to ignore traditional aesthetic and narrative criteria, often on the basis that these criteria were first formulated by old white men, which means we can freely ignore them because the value of people's opinions isn't in the words themselves but in the color and sex of who expressed them, right? And my source for this is several years of university level literature studies, I've read a loooot of the "critical theory" that this type of show and this type of thinking in general is clearly inspired by. Maybe, just maybe, there IS something bad and even regressive about progressivism's obsession with race and sex.
"In the end, the people who hate the show for being "woke" would've hated it regardless of if it was good" See you SAY that, but in my experience, it's not at all true. That's just a nice narrative you make up because it feels right, because of course, anti-woke people couldn't possibly care about anything other than just being anti-woke, could they? But that statement just doesn't hold up to scrutiny, like I said before. Representation and even progressive messages in general usually are not criticized in this way, EXCEPT when they do it in this clumsy, obnoxious way, with absolutely no artistic or narrative merit or vision.
I would have rather they took the old 60s style art from the original/very similar voice acting to the original except made it rated R. That would have been enough for me. And even better if they didn't make a big deal about the change and instead just caught everyone off guard with a sudden intense story that was very well written.
Honestly I’m not really bothered by changing character backgrounds, if you wanna redesign go for it, the issue is exactly as Adam describes it, feeling like a scapegoat but more detrimentally is getting the characterization just very wrong, Shaggy and Fred are the worst, it genuinely feels they wrote this to spite the original characters
Indeed. Though at some point you have to wonder why you wouldn't just make a new show, if you're going to change basically every aspect. But yes; the writing of this show, at least based on the trailers, seems actively spiteful. It feels like they're telling everyone that the original Scooby Doo is bad, and that you're a-hole for liking it. It's like it's been deliberately written to dunk on the legacy of the IP. I don't get it.
@@henrikhumle7255 Yeah this really feels like one of those shows where the IP is shoved in for the sake of having it connect to a bigger brand rather than it actually being an honest part of it
@@stevelopez6957 I hadn't watched the video all the way through when I wrote most of my comments, but I wasn't surprised to hear Adam say the exact same thing; no one would watch this if it wasn't for the controversy of this being a shit spinoff of Scooby Doo. It has literally no relation to the mother franchise except for a couple of names and vague character designs. They could've just made their own thing, but they didn't, because they know it wouldn't stand.
I often find that a show’s humour and themes reflect the people working on it. So I wouldn’t be surprised if we come to learn that the people behind this are just as spiteful and mean-spirited as the show itself.
Balanced People- 'Tell me you don't understand why people love Miles Morales Spiderman without telling my why.' HBO- 'So what if we change Velma's ethnicity?'
Then why change the way he acts/talks? Why not just make him a Track Star with Anxiety and that's why he eats a lot (Shaggy was part of the track team in original Scooby-Doo, look it up)
@@stephensmith7327 So that's why he could keep up with a great dane! Still changing his character suggests that the OG one *was* in fact a stoner and this is him sober.
You know I predicted this a while back that instead of using the adult show status to tackle darker themes and expand, they would use it to fill it to the brim with 6th grade sex humor. They also took that annoying "OWN THE HATERS" rout.
if I got the chance to a scooby-doo series I would create a prequel starring a young Vincent Van Ghoul battling ghosts and entities from the great beyond.
After she made the "you cant speculate about people's sexualities unless they're famous or Peppermint Patty" joke, I was honest to god expecting a Family Guy style cutaway gag
At least Family Guy seems to accept that it's schlock, not pretending it's one of the most poignant shows of a generation...well most of the time.
@@Awaken_To_0 "Our dog, Brian Griffin, is dead"
@Sun Wukong I get what you mean, but there was that one time when they killed Brian, only to be brought back to life two episodes later.
@@makeitthrough_That's right Norville. Our dog, Scooby "Dooby" Doo is dead!
@@michaelstrong5383 Yup hence the "most." Seahorse Seashell Party" was also pretty fauxfound.
I can't wait for the scene where the Norville gets his hair messed up and everyone goes "Omg, look at your hair! It looks so Shaggy!" and they all look at the camera.
And then they'll literally play a laugh track.
Your comment reminds me of that particular scene in the failed DmC reboot, where DoNTE gets a white wig on his hair, making him looking exactly like the original Dante from Devil May Cry!
His reply? "Not in a million years"
Betting $10 they’ll do that exact joke
@@cocoa18_ Don't make that bet. It'd mean you'd have to watch the show
@@tevenpowell8023 ironically adding a laugh track to it would make it closer to the original not further away
RIP Himbo Fred, you died so someone could insert themselves in to a franchise
May that trap loving man rest in peace
He lives in basically every other modern scooby doo iteration
The only reason they didn't race swap fred was so they could make him the "asshole privileged cis white man" for Velma to sass at
It's Dennis from Always Sunny.
Fly high Fred, the original himbo of our generation
Someone tell Adum that Mindy Kaling is the showrunner, not just a VA. She’s not cringing, she thinks this is good 💀
like yeah, she fucking made this
Oof
They could've said "It's Velmin time" and it would be unironically funnier than any of the jokes.
It’s Hollywood, they didn’t even know Morbius was hated
@@DeathnoteBB Morbius jokes are cringe.
@@DeathnoteBB They were hated?
Actually I think they kinda tried that, I saw a poster from this show somewhere saying "It's Mystery Time" or something similar
@@Vaguer_Weevil …No Morbius memes didn’t invent the concept of saying “It’s X time”. It’s just another way to say “It’s time for X”
To those without dislike display, the trailer currently has 6.9k likes and 133k dislikes. So 95% dislike ratio.
That's a level we haven't seen since TH-cam Rewind was a thing.
Hope in humanity mildly restored
Good.
Oh great, that means we're about to get a bunch of headlines about how the show's creators are so brave for facing the "haters"
You can choose to display dislikes??
The mindless violence joke was funny. And then it stopped being funny one second later when Velma explained it. And then it somehow became even less funny two seconds later when Velma explained it A Second Time.
"When you have to explain the joke, *_THERE IS NO JOKE!!!"_*
That’s modern American comedy for you
I can't remember where, but I definitely saw that part of the show before and it didn't have the giant "Mindless Violence" sticker over it. It just showed her skull open up without a brain in it or something. It also didn't have the music in the background so the tone was a bit different.
Sounds like they’re utilizing the Family Guy formula
Jokes are like frogs: if you take them apart to explain how they work they die.
I want everyone to keep in mind that we lost Infinity Train and Mao Mao for this.
"A smart and well-written cartoon that appeals to all ages? Screw that! Let's make a Scooby-Doo show for adults that doesn't have Scooby in it!"
And little Ellen.
@@michaelstrong5383 And has zero appeal to adults.
And a bunch of classic Looney Tunes episodes. Imagine using THE flagship franchise of your company, the one with your mascot in it, for a tax write-off.
Least we still have Unicorn Warriors Eternal coming. That's being done by the same man who did Samurai Jack.
Maybe there's a scene where Norville has a dog and he asks Velma if he could take him along to solve the mystery and Velma will probably say, "No, we're not taking a dog with us to solve our murder mystery. What do you think this is a cartoon?"
That's probably a better joke than 90% of the ones that will be in this show
Not that I'm gonna check, but still
No way. That’s far too creative and clever for this show’s writing.
But wouldn't having a dog be beneficial for detective work, like picking up scents and sniffing things out?
Then Norville looks into the camera while the laugh-track starts. Funniest shit ive ever seen.
@@ArchSchizo With a Waa Waa sound playing in the background.
“Can’t believe Mindy is involved with this. I feel really bad for her” MY BROTHER. SHE MADE IT!
Remember, don't hate watch Velma use your time in better places.
Exactly. Just go and watch a better show or something.
I'm only watching it if Adam makes a watchalong, and even then I'm tempted to just use the watchalong as a podcast and not watch the show anyway because I'm afraid of the cringe overload
Nah, I'm tapped out from the CW.
This is outright insulting
Let the TH-camrs watch it for you, have a laugh from their videos about it, then move on.
Hate watching gives the culprits the sane amount of money as love watching.
This series looks so spiteful and mean-spirited. There needs to be a word for content like this, who’s only punchline is that the audience is stupid and the world is stupid and the best you can be is aloof and critical all the time.
I'd describe it as petulant.
Panmissism. Taking the "pan" prefix meaning everything as in words like pantheism and pansexual and the "mis" prefix for hatred as in words like misogyny and misanthropy.
Yeah you can really taste the bile.
It’s weird that they’re trying to target an adult audience with a show that’s appealed to kids for years.
Foefiction or the deliberate misuse of legacy characters
Writers have made us love characters who are black, brown, white, green, male, female, neurodivergent, LGBTQ, trees, and various shade of animal. They've yet to make us love boring, poorly written characters, which is something these shows desperately need to learn.
Succinctly put
Not to mention these characters races were changed for the actors to self insert themselves. It was never about just “having a black character in the show” it’s changing characters like Velma who’s canonically white
@@legalza0843 when it comes to entirely fictional characters, I tend to go by the cell phone test. You couldn't give Robin Hood a cell phone and have him still be Robin Hood. You also couldn't swap his race or gender and still have it be the same story. You COULD give Velma a cell phone. There's no real reason she COULDN'T be black or brown. It could be the same story. The race swap isn't what pisses me off; it's that the only purpose of the story IS the race swap. It's for a board room to signal that they're hip with the kids and their politics and jokes. And It's horrible.
@@legalza0843 right, that's what irks me. I'm not black but i'm autistic. if we had a cast of characters that were canonically not neurodivergent, and they were changed to act 'more autistic' (self-insert or otherwise) and that's their big character trait that would be awful. it would feel weird. Being autistic OR not autistic makes you who you are. Even if white people still take up a majority of a show- that character being white makes them who they are.
We can still be better about being inclusive but shows like this just feel like getting a potato on Halloween. its funny at first and then you realize every one else is getting those great full sized candy bars. Is it really that hard to ask for a new show that has well written people of a minority? Give us new characters that we can love or care about. Slapping "minority paint" on a character just feels too weird for me, and lazy.
I mean, imagine if the Daily Wire remade Ghostbusters, made it somehow worse than the 2016 version, and not only made Winston white, but made every joke about how he was white. COULD Winston have been white? Absolutely. Zero changes required. Does that alone make for a good film? No. It's actually kinda lame.
I love how just no one knows Norville is Shaggy's real name
I only know because I watched A Pup Named Scooby Doo back in the day.
Every mention of it bugged the crap out of me. I bet he gets the nickname Shaggy by the end of the series.
I know that his real name is Norville but it is stupid to change it to that
i remember them using his real name more often in mystery inc.
@@RyguyTheGreat22 My guess is that he's going to end up being a junkie as one of the edgy jokes and "earn" the name Shaggy. We'll probably get Scooby in the season finale.
When she says “this is my story, told my way,” that’s Mindy Kaling talking directly to the audience, not Velma
Exactly what I was thinking lol. This just Mindy telling her own self inserted story ideas(albeit very cringey) while using the Mystery gang as a base(most likely to get more eyes on her show).
I utterly despise committee-approved irony.
reminds me of the last Matrix movie. You can tell Lana Wachowski felt like such a rebel putting in all those "down with the Hollywood system" lines, as if the whole thing wasn't reviewed and approved by Warner Bros executives.
@@blaisetelfer8499 tbf I'd still say she did a good job
@@jiggycalzone8585 Eh. I wouldn't say that. I'd say the acting was definitely more enjoyable than the writing. The meta saved some of it, kind of. Warner Bros made her make a movie, or she wanted it to look like she was made to make the movie, either way the entire film was making fun of and hating itself for existing, constantly making fun of reboots and their tropes while bringing back old and new characters with very little and very convoluted introduction. Some parts were enjoyable, but even if this was a corporate cash grab the fans showed up for a Matrix movie. Instead it was an hour and a half of meta commentary on how much she hated making this movie, whether she really hated it or not. It wasn't for the fans, it wasn't even for casual moviegoers, it was for Warner Bros and her protest against Warner Bros. She crammed in some good ideas for a continuation, but then just didn't build on them at all because no, they made me do this dumb reboot guys, look how dumb it is. Look he said the line, isn't that dumb? While also repeatedly going, Look he said the line, isn't that cool? The only memorable parts for me were between Neo and Trinity, if they spent the same amount of time building up their rekindled romance and the tragedy being put back in the machines (ya know, the plot) as they did on meta commentary, it could've been a really heartfelt and nostalgic ending for these characters, seeing two characters prove that their love is unstoppable and their nature is avoidable as they continued to rage against the machine. Instead we got something far less satisfying and far more forgettable.
@@SuperMegaGaelourde I enjoyed the meta elements up until Neo was freed from The Matrix. Up until then, the meta elements were done in a way I hadn't seen before which built on the idea of The Matrix.
After that, I felt it went straight downhill into what I worried the movie would be. The movie just did the things it was criticising without any twist and just lampshaded it, except for a few times when it came up with an interesting twist to a concept but then had a character explain it a couple seconds later.
You obviously dont understand that Fred can't see non-hot girls because he has a condition. Remember all those other jokes about dudes who can only see hot girls? It's like those, but it's different. Because he has a condition. Condition are inherently funny. Especially when you keep referencing them. Did you know he has a condition?
The headline of the Variety review was "The biggest mystery of 'Velma' is why it needs to exist"
In parody of the classic Twilight Zone episode " Five Characters In Search of an Exit" I propose "Four Characters in Search of Acceptable Writing."
Officer I'd like to report a murder, because godDAMN Variety
I'm gonna need some ketchup for all those harshbrowns you're serving Variety hot damn
I don't think Mindy Kaling was embarrassed when recording her lines: _she's the executive producer of the show._ She had to have wanted it this way, or it wouldn't have been produced this way.
>"This is MY show, told MY way"
Thank you, Velma™ writer. We got that so very, VERY important message from the last trailer, but telling us explicitly AGAIN *really* drives it home.
It was really progressive of them to make the blonde guy a stuck up douchebag, even though he wasn't anything like that in the original. Finally a show that doesn't rely on stereotypes based on physical appearance.
that honestly made me sad. Fred always gave me friendly jock vibes, not bully jock vibes. It was a nice twist on how bigger guys can also be nice, good leaders. He always compliments his friends and even though shaggy and scooby get scared easy he almost always pairs them together since they like being close.
LITERALLY. The fact that they missed that and straight up made him a stereotype based on his appearance after constantly criticizing “stereotypes” based on gender, race, S O C I E T Y whatever, is so amazingly ironic
His appearance? Are you saying all white people give off spoiled manchild vibes?
Very interesting, what a self own lmao
@@matthall7359 another fine example of the internet’s literacy skills
@@GippyHappy so what stereotype is white guy with ascot exactly lmfao
“If you don’t agree with my imaginary fantasy world that I’m angry about in my head then you don’t have literacy skills”
LiterL 2 year old logic
Use your words honey
This show feels like a Mindy vanity project (shocking, i know) where she's the main character that is smarter than everyone else around and just goes around spouting one liners hoping people will laugh, but since nobody is going to watch that they just put a cheap Scooby-Doo coat of paint on top of it hoping to make people mad and entice them to watch it out of spite
I don’t know how mindy lasted at all after the office. Even then, I felt she was more often annoying than funny
She wasn't playing a character on The Office, apparently.
Lets not forget she pairs herself up with Daphne. This really does feel like a self insert, please PLEASE prove me wrong
@@gameb9oy she's always been horrible lmao Ive never ever enjoyed anything she's had any creative control over.
Y’all can dislike someone’s work without making personal attacks
Calling it now, they're going to have an episode where Velma has to track down the haters and they're going to be your stereotypical basement dwelling trolls. Maybe an actual troll.
How do we know that's exactly what would happen? Because *Birdgirl* did it, and that show's written with the same brand of "humor" as this.
Edit: I'm being a canary in the coalmines here watching Episode 1. It starts out with a censored shower scene, Daphne saying "As an Asian woman" and trying to justify the race swap, and the woman without a brain is bloodlessly dead. Also the animation is *exactly* on par with Brickleberry. Velma's dad could have straight up come from there.
She-Hulk did the same thing, the main villains were internet trolls
this is becoming a trend and it's really strange.
Basically the only time something almost like this has almost worked is when "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend," after receiving some flak for breaking up the characters Darryl and White Josh (his name makes sense in the context of the show,) responded with the musical number "The Groupmind Has Decided You're In Love." It worked because all of the characters taking part in the number were pre-established characters who had already expressed their own feelings about the breakup, and also that it descended into a parody of the overly long dance scenes from Rodgers and Hammerstein's "Oklahoma!" halfway through so there were jokes beyond "Take that fans!" It's generally regarded by fans as one of the best numbers from the very well regarded final season.
@@ralelunar pathetic how they have to convince themselves everyone who makes fun of their poorly written, sanitized corporate schlock is a mentally ill basement dweller. Most of us just took five minutes or fewer to point and laugh at it.
Harley Quinn had an episode where it was about Batman and it started with fat Snyder nerds saying they wouldn’t watch the Harley Quinn show because why would they watch a Batman show without Batman.
Does anyone remember the Tramp Stamps? That alternative girl band that had all of their music about how girls rule and boys drool, only to be exposed as an industry plant? That’s what this feels like.
The band that Tumblr terrorized with "bug ass" and was trolled into saying that they support MAPs? Good times.
@@tjenadonn6158 the MAPs part wasn’t a real account
“I have a disease where I can’t recognize people who aren’t hot.” She legitimately made Fred like this because he’s the only character she didn’t change the race of, and he’s straight, blonde, and white. Fred has never been that insufferable in any adaptation other than maybe the live action, and it was at least a self aware and charming parody to an extent. Adum should not feel bad for Mindy in this, she wrote and produced this puke.
It's a very bitchy/feminine comment. Fred is arrogant in a tradiotionally masculine fashion. For him to mock or bully Velma in that way is utterly cartoonish.
It would have been funnier of him to hit on her because he didn't even remember who she was from school.
It would add to the idea that velma is never really recognised for her contribution. And making Fred somewhat connected to the previous itterations of his character.
@@kerrell95 what the hell are you talking about lol 😆
they made fred into a twink lmao. I suspect kaling is overcompensating by bastardizing fred's character; she's has gotten clowned on in the past for having her self-insert character from The Mindy Project exclusively date white men
@@kerrell95 I wouldn't say it's feminine, to say that being verbally cruel is feminine is just as sexist making Fred into this. A character who appears to be a parody of straight white men being stereotypically misogynistic, arrogant, and entitled. Which is sexist, misogynistic, and depending on where they go, racist.
Fred in Mystery Incorporated maybe due to his crazy obsession with traps
They do the "music cut off to tell a joke" thing NINE TIMES in this 2 minute trailer!!
“Drugs. Which I hate.”
I’m guessing he does drugs in the end. And at the end of the show he Becomes Shaggy
That little twist actually wouldn't be so bad in a better-written show
And we get a scene wheee Velma washes off her blackface.
@@makeitthrough_it would.
No, he hates drugs because he's a black character who totally isn't a stereotype because that would be unwoke and they're aware of it so they want to make the audience stop to think "Oh wow that's so cool, Shaggy is typically known as a stoner character but now that he's black he's not a stoner character anymore, that's so smart and anti-racist, woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow!"
Or the next frame is him with a bong.
Its brickelberry tradition
There is no way this show started off as a Scooby Doo show, someone gave a pitch about a modern diverse mystery solving teen group and the executives liked the idea but were too afraid to make an original IP so they tacked a scooby doo label on it pissing off just about everyone so now instead. show runners would get so much less hate if their companies just let them go with their original ideas, you can't tell me the best idea any these minority creators have are "lets make X gay/girl/black/etc"
"you can't tell me the best idea any these minority creators have are "lets make X gay/girl/black/etc"
Its been like this for the last 10 years for comics, cartoons or video games, modern stuff its shit and this is one of the main reason why.
The other big one is how cheap modern western animation looks, and the final nail in the coffin is this need to despise the audience like this show does hiding behind the "sexist/homophobe/racist" shield.
Its shit and they are deluded cowards, thats the end of it.....
It does feel that way since the characters (at least the male ones) don’t really feel like themselves and Scooby ain’t in it. And you know when this show fails, those same execs are going to blame it’s failure on “ppl don’t wanna see woke stories” which is depressing as hell
@@TrueGamer22887 More people need to see the greatness that is Mike Tyson Mysteries
It’s an insult. Black characters can only exist as race swaps and not original characters ? Do they not deserve effort?
It feels more like it was always intended to be Scooby Doo, just the showrunner wanted to do a cynical dismantling of it as is all the rage these days with these older IPs. Pitch it as 'adult' and boast it's full of crass humor and violence and write it specifically to spite the original audience and fans. We're seeing it a lot now- the sentiment that the people who make the brand profitable are enemies to attack. Yes none of what's shown feels like it belongs in Scooby Doo and could totally just swap the names and be its own IP that would stand on its own, but that was never the point, it specifically had to be attacking Scooby
The network though also shows they have little faith in it by not letting it have Scooby Doo, the actual mascot of the IP and the character who matters most. Strip him out and it stops being "Scooby Doo" entirely and easily forgotten about later.
I love it when creators pet on their backs once they made a half way decent joke. Not annoying at all. can't wait for Velma to explain all the jokes in this show 💀
The last South Park game had a brilliant punchline about HP Lovecraft that they spent a lot of dialog building up to...then it's all ruined three seconds later when they explain it.
They could actually make that clever since Velma was always the one who explained the mystery to everyone in the end. They probably won’t 😃
You messed the grammar up in your comment, don't worry, it happens to all of us
@@cookiemocher388 If you're going to point that out, you should probably also point out the mistake, especially since it might be a non-native English speaker. Otherwise it's just kind of a dickish comment to make.
7:00 The joke is the fact that everyone assumes Shaggy is a stoner so the fact that this Shaggy says he hates drugs is an obvious play on the idea that the original Shaggy was most likely on drugs all of the time.
I imagine the show will double down on this and he will have drug trip sequence where he imagines a dog named Scooby Doo can talk to him.
what's gonna happen is that he's gonna be straightlaced for the whole show until the very end where he tries drugs for the first time, gets high, then becomes a stoner.
Scooby doo wont be appearing in this show at all, because warner brothers wouldn't give hbomax the rights to the character, so if they do make any joke about dog sidekicks, it'll probably be *very* vague
@@liz_merr1003 Hence, a drug trip sequence where he hallucinates a talking dog.
@@bloopboop9320 yes, but it probably wouldn't be allowed to be called scooby do, and might not even be allowed to physically resemble scooby doo
@@liz_merr1003 just has to be a talking great dane. That's it. Shows are allowed to parody or satire characters without having the rights.
Remember, we live in a time where this gets greenlit and Venture Brothers gets the axe.
The absolute state of adult animation mirrors the actual state of Michigan and its third world infrastructure...
Their Scooby Doo episode was better than this by a mile
@@Mantis42 No contest son
Well, as much as Adum doesn't want to talk about it, there's a very...colorful reason for that.
It felt cursed watching the trailer and Scooby-Doo not being present. Why even bother if Warner won't let you use him?
Betting my last good nut that he will show up during a hallucination scene with legal name shaggy after ripping a fat cloud
This shit is like Gotham all over again. I hate when big studios think the gimmick of just taking an IP and taking the most recognizable character out is a great original idea. It's just a waste of time tbh.
Welcome to how I feel about Sony and their dumb "non-Spider-Man Cinematic Universe."
great dane life span is 7 years, maybe time jump ?
It's bird girl all over again. There was no point in rebooting that show without being able to use the old Hannah Barbara characters
Cant wait for Jay Exci to do a single 6 hour video on this.
It will be funnier than Velma at least.
Should drag metal to hell aswell
that would be the only good thing to come out of this show.
I wanna see that actually
Sign me up!
“What was that joke? what does that mean? What does that mean? What are you saying?” Watching Adum’s brain breaking actually made this trailer worthwhile 😂
The fact that Fred is not played by Frank Welker is the most unforgivable part.
Edit: After seeing more clips from this show, I'm glad that Welker didn't voice this horrendous version of Fred.
Nah, he dodged a bullet here if anything.
@@InfernoScorpion14 Maybe, but he would voice Fred even if it was for a Family Guy cutaway gag.
He’s voicing Fred’s dad. Doubt he’s happy with Glenn’s performance.
Can we even consider this Fred if he's not voiced by Frank Welker in a none live action film
The vocal dissonance alone would've been funnier than any of the jokes in the script
Fred in the og show was voiced by seasoned and uberly talented voice actor: FRANK WELKER!
And Fred wasn't a braindead dummy, he was the level-headed leader of the group
Yep as I remembered him he stylised himself for an American hero, and he deserved it the role as a leader.
Same for Daphne, I don't remember her being stupid per se. While she did play into stereotype of that girl that overly cares about looks, she also was competent.
This team in general feels like if a group of friends decided to cosplay Scooby Do for Halloween, and then actual ghosts appeared.
Yeah my memory of Scooby Doo has been from the old "Where are you?" cartoons, but isn't he supposed to be like something like a boy scout? Natural leader and loyal to his friends but a bit bossy? If anyone was vein it was Daphne but she balances it out with sharp wit and charisma.
Oh well, I guess Glenn Howerton is getting paychecks an actor who I absolutely enjoy, but it must suck though to be apart of a project that's just pretty widely disliked.
I'm honestly upset they didn't make Fred black if they wanted to make one character black anyway. Like you're really gone make the cowardly Stoner black? Real Progressive there HBO MAX.
Because they wanted to turn the himbo into a sexist jock because he's white and rich ig
It's okay to race swap as long as they're swapped to their respective stereotypes
anyone kinda bothered by them not realizing Shaggy gets his name from his shaggy unkempt hair? this version looks like he just went to the barber yesterday
There's a theory that he just has a severe Anxiety Disorder, main Shaggy I mean.
Also based on the trailer shaggy isn’t at all the one we’ve come to know he is way too capable and brave to be shaggy and he doesn’t even have the voice or speech patterns
Like atleast for Velma it’s an ok impersonation
This trailer made me happy that Scooby isn't in this show. Considering how the other ""Mystery Inc"" characters are written, I can't imagine what they would have done to him.
@@blujaebird From what I've read, not only is it because the studio demanded it, but it's also because the crew didn't know how to make an "adult take" on Scooby-Doo as a character.
Wanna bet they would make scooby a white dog?
he would be a fursuiter
@@CaptLuser And not a good one either.
Scoob would’ve been a non-talking black cat that’s code for the black panthers.
This show has "big mouth" level comedy.
Big mouth has jokes that are actually funny and land. This shit looks %100 bland.
Big mouth is sometimes funny tho
That's insulting to big mouth, which is saying a lot lol
The art style in big mouth makes me wanna gouge my eyes out with a melon baller. It makes aqua teen look like a visual feast
@@zs4580 it's a low bar but I guess the character designs look better than Big Mouth.
It's surreal seeing something like this being made, it's like a parody show I would see on a TV in GTA V.
Adam hit the nail on the head. This should be entirely different from Scooby Doo. Mike Tyson had his own Scooby Doo parody and it worked out pretty well.
@@TrueGamer22887 I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers the show
Shaggy has grown so powerful that it wasn’t enough for him to get the N-word pass
Nice.
Norwegian.
Negaduck.
Bacon and eggers
Nougat
Sooo... it's a show made by Mindy Kaling, about Mindy Kaling, for Mindy Kaling???
I guess the joke was on us all along 😑😑😑
another hollywood elite fellating themselves while talking down to everyone who doesn't kiss the ground they walk on, nothing to see here
That's the premise of every show she's created, it's kinda sad
@@ralelunar She's never moved on from the dime-a-dozen tumblr writer phase where everything she writes is for the sake of self-indulgence.
This has Mindy's hands all over it. Very clear self insert. People give her too much credit
The idea of a professional editor having to be led through the footage with the jokes highlighted for them so that they can do the punchy music cuts is hilarious
Feel bad for Mindy? She created it didn't she?
The only thing good she was ever a part of was the office
@@brandonislemons
I’ve never watched the Mindy Project but it had several seasons so it could have had some redeeming quality
@@WixkedLovy Big Mouth has several seasons and a spinoff
And Big Mouth is stinky caca
@@brandonislemons there was also the emotions pixar thing
@@ghiaccio1452
Lol, I know even as I was writing that I knew it was bs. One can dream
Adum don’t feel bad Mandy, she created this show, she gets to choose what she does. It’s not like she is typecast, she hedged herself in.
Legit losing my mind over the drunk custody joke at the end of the trailer I have absolutely no clue what that was even supposed to mean
people who watched Dahmer
True crime podcasters? I guess?
The IGN review said that Fred had always had this underlying psychopathy. I'm not sure where they got that, but they also said that the voicing acting is better for him than it's ever been. That is a real insult to the legendary Frank Welker.
I think people must be projecting psychopathy onto Fred as a way to glance over the fact that more often then not, he's kind of boring, with only a few series like Mystery Incorporated trying to make him stand out.
Megatron is gonna have to choke a bitch
Shaggy's name is and always has been Norville. This show isn't legally allowed to call him Shaggy or have Scooby-Doo.
Why even make a Scooby-Doo show without them at that point
@@MrClams2 It's like creating the Witcher series without the Witcher, or a LOTR one with no proper hobbits and with weird elves, or a Star Trek one that only has bare minimum ship action and is barely a sci-fi show, or a main Star Wars movie without a proper Skywalker... I think you get the idea.
@@MrClams2 For money and attention lol. Seems they basically only used the mystery gang as a base to get more eyes on the show.
The animation, at best, looks like it’s trying to be the Harley Quinn animated show. At worst it gives off early 2000/2010 Canadian animation vibes.
Like something Teletoon would air at night.
At 12:54 , we need to publicly shame cheeezypotatoez for ever implying this show is similar in any way to the venture brothers.
That should be a jailable offense.
"this shit sandwich reminds of the lobster I had a few years ago"
Lock him up
And potatoez saying that no one cares about Scooby Doo anymore is false. Scooby Doo is one of best classic cartoons that I’ll occasionally go back and watch for some laughs and personal enjoyment with my friends.
Bro that is a garbage take, log off
This show is equivalent to Adums channel being hacked by Dhar Mann and Dhar Mann is just spending every episode he uploads lecturing us on how we have to like his videos now that it’s on Adums channel.
My girlfriend says the "women solving murders are drunk / losing custody" is a common dig on the true crime community.
You can tell a good comedy when it makes you SIGH constantly...
This feels like it's going to just be brickleberry/paradise pd/whatever but with a pointless Scooby-Doo skin somehow without the talking animal trope
Oh hey first time getting 10 likes cool thanks
The humor certainly fits
22:23 this is an AI generated joke you cannot tell me a human being wrote this joke
it's a joke about adults who watch cartoons... in a cartoon made for adults
are they really this fucking stupid or is it a performance
If there's a plot twist at the end of season 1 that Norville has been keeping Shaggy in his basement as a slave, and Velma's friends have to kill Norville to free the real Shaggy, I won't be mad
now that sounds intriguing...
@@The-Khandor-of-Kalakuta Would explain his obsession with food (making up for years of nothing but mouldy bread and stale water) and cowardly mannerisms (at the slightest disobedience, Norville would beat him with a tire iron) , too.
@@janberkemeier7406 knowing the writer's they probably would do something like that.
but kill the real shaggy instead of saving him because fuck the fans.
Can they please kill Velma next?
@@viljamtheninja Why would they kill off Velma? She is the main character and the show is called “Velma”
Remember, no hate watching, unless you're on the high seas.
The "You can't speculate someone's sexuality unless it's a celebrity or Peppermint Patty" line has the same energy as the complete nothingness that was the "Demi Lovato is nonbinary. Good for them" line from the Prince.
Edit: Scratch that, basically all "social commentary" in this show boils down characters saying absolutely nothing.
They always have the audacity to point at Peppermint Patty for gayness as if she officially is
I remember rolling my eyes at the "Mindless Violence" censor because I remember one of the earliest images used to tease this show was that exact image except uncensored. It was painfully obvious that they realized that one of the main criticisms they would be receiving is the shows shallow view of adult content and decide to brush it off as "Oh, but we KNOW it's mindless violence." If you knew that then why did you decide that this would be a prominent tone in your show? This whole series feels like it's going to be nothing but out of touch humor meant to boast the writers' own egos.
I think this is one of the most joyless media experiences I've ever had. I'm a huge fan of bad media, but this is just stomach churning.
Didnt know the scooby doo spinoff needed twerking and 420. Irony is this couldve been really funny if they played into the jokes abt the original scooby doo show, like shaggy ironically saying he doesnt like drugs, which i thought was actually funny. But no, its a high school drama. call it "13 Reasons Why You Would Do It for a Scooby Snack"
I feel like this show is just on the verge of looking like one of those NFT cartoons.
Low-keyi adding a laugh track to this would make it a hundred times funnier and also a good call back to the original run
This show is really making me appreciate Be Cool Scooby-Doo!
Honestly, me too. Sure, it looked like something out of a Family Guy cutaway gag, but at least the writing was surprisingly decent.
hey, don't disrespect "be cool scooby doo!" it was actually funny!
Why did the Scooby-Doo franchise get handed over to people that absolutely hate their fanbase? I'm not even opposed to having spin-offs that try new things, but they keep pulling the most faux-progressive pandering that they use to deflect any criticism as bigotry.
This show feels like it was made in 2016, but took 7+ years to come out. I don't even like using the work "woke" because it's lost all meaning by now, but this is the epitome of a woke pandering cash-grab.
I agree with you 100%! I’ve seen better race swap scooby doo aus done done by fans. Kinda wish they work on a Scoby Doo project, but instead we get this crap.
Scooby Doo without Scooby Doo... or anyone else really. Who is this even for? It keeps happening, too. They twist a greasy log onto an established audience, then calls them hateful for holding their noses. Ghostbusters but its bad improv, Space Jam but without the creativity, Star Wars without... anything planned, I guess. Can't wait for Indy 5 to have a laugh track and snarky sidekick who gets more screentime than Indiana Jones. Oh, and they gotta explain his name, too. Maybe he was born in Indiana.
My conspiracy theory was that the show was going to be some generic adult animation detective "comedy," but WB said "Make it Scooby Doo. We don't care how or what you do with it. Just use the characters" because hate-watching is a thing, thus there is a guaranteed audience now.
The Velma joke about a drunk woman on the verge of losing custody solving murders may be a jab at true crime podcasters. My best guess.
That joke in particular is so frustrating because you could have had an actual punchline with Fred.
_Norville:_
"The rules feel a bit muddy."
_Velma:_
"Muddy? Oh, sorry I'm not a drunk on the verge of losing custody like every other woman solving crimes these days."
_Fred, walking in from off-screen:_
"Hey, be positive! I'm sure you'll be one someday."
Then just show Norville smirking and Velma looking fucking astonished, and you've got a passable joke.
I think it probably applies to other crime shows like Mare of Easttown. I can’t think of enough examples for it to really land though
@@U.F.O But then, the self-insert is the butt of the joke. Throw it out!
I'm so sad that Glenn Howerton's name is attached to this in any conceivable way, let alone him being Fred...
@@TrueGamer22887 ofc, but I would just like to see him attached to better titles. That's just how it goes though
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.” - J.R.R. Tolkien
@@kimifw58 bro what? It’s a quote and he’s not changing it or corrupting it. What irony?
@@kimifw58 What a Philistine! The target audience for this stupid show, no doubt.
@@kimifw58 what? The quote doesn’t say that evil simply copies it specifically states it copies then corrupts. He didn’t affect it so therefor the quote is fine. Had he tried to change the quote into something lesser then it would have been ironic.
I like the term Sarah Z used which is "Sacrificial Trash" to refer to shows or movies like this. They get used as proof that shows that lean more progressive are bad, despite the fact that there are tons of good shows that also have representation and bad shows that don't have it. In the end, the people who hate the show for being "woke" would've hated it regardless of if it was good, but it validates them because it’s bad.
Idk I think people of every group should be allowed to make bad shows without it meaning anything about the validity of their identities or anything like that.
Oh my god absolutely, I hate how so much the discussion for this show just turns into ranting about diversity
yeah, the reasons these writers are obnoxious have absolutely nothing to do with race
why can't I just say their show sucks without joining a political party
@@Zonedoutallthetime because thier entire show and marketing hinges on the fact that if you dislike it; you're the political enemy du jour. (See Ghostbusters)
I don't think these shows are used as proof that progressive-leaning shows are bad. They're used to show that shows become bad when politics become more important than good story, and that is very common especially in progressive media lately, and this is inherently related to the core ideals of identity politics: because identity markers such as race, sex, sexuality etc are seen as a more important essential part of an individual than their character, their actions, their motivations and experiences as a person. This is reflected in the way the writers write both character and narrative. Mostly because these writers don't actually come from writing schools, they come from gender studies and critical studies in general, and don't know how to actually write stories.
These are the bad examples of those that put politics over story. Plenty of good examples exist, with well-done representation and even left/prog-leaning political undertones, but they still focus on writing a good STORY. The problem is when politics become the main motivation for making the show, and when the representation vs bigotry becomes your only defense.
Pretty much any anti-progressive angry TH-cam manchild nerd like The Critical Drinker will often and gladly point out positive examples of representation, AS LONG AS THE STORY IS GOOD. But identity politics has a very inherent tendency to ignore traditional aesthetic and narrative criteria, often on the basis that these criteria were first formulated by old white men, which means we can freely ignore them because the value of people's opinions isn't in the words themselves but in the color and sex of who expressed them, right? And my source for this is several years of university level literature studies, I've read a loooot of the "critical theory" that this type of show and this type of thinking in general is clearly inspired by. Maybe, just maybe, there IS something bad and even regressive about progressivism's obsession with race and sex.
"In the end, the people who hate the show for being "woke" would've hated it regardless of if it was good" See you SAY that, but in my experience, it's not at all true. That's just a nice narrative you make up because it feels right, because of course, anti-woke people couldn't possibly care about anything other than just being anti-woke, could they? But that statement just doesn't hold up to scrutiny, like I said before. Representation and even progressive messages in general usually are not criticized in this way, EXCEPT when they do it in this clumsy, obnoxious way, with absolutely no artistic or narrative merit or vision.
I would have rather they took the old 60s style art from the original/very similar voice acting to the original except made it rated R.
That would have been enough for me.
And even better if they didn't make a big deal about the change and instead just caught everyone off guard with a sudden intense story that was very well written.
Honestly I’m not really bothered by changing character backgrounds, if you wanna redesign go for it, the issue is exactly as Adam describes it, feeling like a scapegoat but more detrimentally is getting the characterization just very wrong, Shaggy and Fred are the worst, it genuinely feels they wrote this to spite the original characters
Indeed. Though at some point you have to wonder why you wouldn't just make a new show, if you're going to change basically every aspect.
But yes; the writing of this show, at least based on the trailers, seems actively spiteful. It feels like they're telling everyone that the original Scooby Doo is bad, and that you're a-hole for liking it. It's like it's been deliberately written to dunk on the legacy of the IP. I don't get it.
@@henrikhumle7255 Yeah this really feels like one of those shows where the IP is shoved in for the sake of having it connect to a bigger brand rather than it actually being an honest part of it
Partially correct it was written to spite the audience
they usually do it exactly because of spite
@@stevelopez6957 I hadn't watched the video all the way through when I wrote most of my comments, but I wasn't surprised to hear Adam say the exact same thing; no one would watch this if it wasn't for the controversy of this being a shit spinoff of Scooby Doo. It has literally no relation to the mother franchise except for a couple of names and vague character designs. They could've just made their own thing, but they didn't, because they know it wouldn't stand.
It feels like every single character is designed for a different tv show like
Even the background characters
Idk how long you've been using the "beep" from the new Lion King's "Be Prepared" as a censor sound but it's genius
This feels like the quality of brickleberry which is surprising because I expected it to be bad but not *that* bad
Don’t feel bad for Kaling: she helped develop the show.
I often find that a show’s humour and themes reflect the people working on it. So I wouldn’t be surprised if we come to learn that the people behind this are just as spiteful and mean-spirited as the show itself.
Balanced People- 'Tell me you don't understand why people love Miles Morales Spiderman without telling my why.'
HBO- 'So what if we change Velma's ethnicity?'
Maybe we watch kids cartoons because they more often have more intrigue than this. Seriously, PLEASE bring back Infinity Train, I loved that!!
Don't feel bad about Mindy, she probably had a big hand in this crap dialogue
This is a classic case of “We’ve got to have money.”
MONEY IS SUCH, A WONDERFUL THING!!!
*“Burn it”*
Reminder that the live action Scooby-Doo do movies are underrated
"It's not a joke in and of itself to twerk" *STARES KNOWINGLY AT SHE HULK*
Being bored and doing nothing is a more entertaining experience than watching most of these new shows
7:00 my guess is it's a joke on how people have been saying for a very long time that shaggy has always been a stoner.
Then why change the way he acts/talks? Why not just make him a Track Star with Anxiety and that's why he eats a lot (Shaggy was part of the track team in original Scooby-Doo, look it up)
@@stephensmith7327shaggy was also the best gymnast in the school
@@stephensmith7327 So that's why he could keep up with a great dane!
Still changing his character suggests that the OG one *was* in fact a stoner and this is him sober.
Goddamn, the Highlights channel is on fire lately
It is hard to get angry at this because it is so clearly trying to make me angry.
I want to know if they wrote Fred to act exactly like Dennis from It's Always Sunny before or after they cast Glen Howerton.
It's like a robot chicken parody, that's what i'll convince myself i'm seeing if and when i watch it.
a robot chicken parody but it's 5 hours long instead of 5 minutes
At least Robot Chicken sketches are shorter.
Velma saying "misgendering bad" is truly the joke of all time
For the record, shaggy's name isn't shaggy, his name is actually Norville "shaggy" Rogers
Nhaggy
Velma writers trying to make a joke: I’ve connected the two dots
us: you didn’t connect shit
Writers: I’ve connected them
"It's been 15 minutes and we're 1 minute through the fucking trailer"
Adum that's every single trailer reaction video you make
The audacity to put in the og shaggy design at 15:25 in the crowd... Unbelievable.
I was constantly laughing at Adam's reaction more than the trailer itself
I predict they'll do a multiverse crossover at some point with the original characters.
I can already see it in my head, and it's f*cking miserable.
Please don't give them any ideas.
Aaaand will make fun of them for being awful human beings in some messed up made up way
@@nettlecider fred eats babies tier shit i bet
Clicked this video and literally got the trailer as the first ad 🤣
Edit: The version I got was also censored
You know I predicted this a while back that instead of using the adult show status to tackle darker themes and expand, they would use it to fill it to the brim with 6th grade sex humor. They also took that annoying "OWN THE HATERS" rout.
I hereby propose we refer to this sort of sabotage as "Spitewashing"
if I got the chance to a scooby-doo series I would create a prequel starring a young Vincent Van Ghoul battling ghosts and entities from the great beyond.
Would the season finale involve finding a certain red chest?