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Neighbor just painted everything under his car with a oil based rustoleum black paint. I never heard of anyone doing this. Was this a good or bad idea?
@@Sound_The_War-Cry In my opinion time will tell, it's better than nothing and it all depends on how it was applied. I myself i would have applied surface shield, never tried that and again you are right never heard of anyone doing that either.
@@Sound_The_War-Cry Bad idea. Paint does not displace moisture. So any moisture that was on the surface or in the pores of the metal/rust are just sealed in by the paint. This is also the same reason why traditional undercoating fails. It seals in moisture. Also any chips in the paint will let moisture in as well. Lanolin will displace moisture and create a barrier between the oxygen and the metal so it can't rust. I don't care who makes the Lanolin product they all function better than paint or rubberized undercoatings but need re-applied every year.
Can you spray fluid film over rubberized coating? I sprayed my new vehicle with some rattle can rubberized undercoating. I just found out about how bad the rubberized stuff is. So is it OK for me to go over the rubberized coating with some oil based undercoating? Or what should I do?
@@frostyjim2633 good luck with the rats and scorpions…. This and many other reasons why that part of the country remain pretty much uninhabited for centuries..
Great video as always. Pb Blaster couldn't have picked a better spokesman. Being from Ohio I've always choose PB Blaster products. Can't wait for it to come in 5 gallon. They should partner with Eastwood or Summit. I get my packages from summit next day. It saves me a trip to Akron.
I started watching your videos because I heard you mention lanolin as an undercoat. The reason it interested me was because I am an industrial machine mechanic, I work in alot of different environments from high to low temp. and different percentages of humidity. I began using a tool bag several years ago and my Dad told me that if I was going to be working in all these different environments that I should thin coat my stuff with lanolin to prevent everything from rusting. That was thirty years ago, my Dad is gone but every tool I owned from that time is still rust free. I still have guys ask me when they see me loading up my tools what am I using and I tell them lanolin. I use mineral spirits to clean and lanolin to protect. Then I usually have to have the WD-40 argument with them. I have seen machines get destroyed because these guys grow up thinking WD-40 does it all, it does not. Anyway, you gave me some justification for my seemingly anal aversion to WD-40 and my belief in lanolin. You have useful info and your presentation is concise and interesting! Great stuff!
@@jeffrobodine8579 WD-40, literally means "Water Displacement 40th attempt" I have never heard anyone state it attracts moisture. It's a poor penetrating lube IMO compared to KROIL or PB even.
@@GregHuston Is this a joke? Project Farm's testing shows that PB is one of the absolute worst penetrating fluids on the entire market. Even WD-40 beat PB as a penetrating fluid.
@@SergeantExtreme Not a Joke, WD-40 does NOT attract Moisture it Displaces Water! How's that a Joke? KROIL is the absolute best I don't care what some guy on a farm shows and PB is a penetrating lube, WD-40 is NOT, WD40 the brand does sell a specialty WD-40 branded penetrating lube but is not the traditional WD-40.
@@GregHuston Ha ha ha! 🤣🤣🤣 You are fanboying so hard it's both sad and pathetic. Project Farm did unbiased, scientific testing. The only thing you have to back your extremely ignorant comment is "muh opinion" which is quite worthless, might I point out.
Blaster Surface Shield Home Made Extension Sprayer for $5 : Needed items 3/16 copper or steel tubing , 3/16 drill bit,4 ft of clear flexible rubber tubing and a little JB weld . Remove the spray nozzle from the blaster can . Carefully drill out the black spray orfice with a 3/16 drill, drill out just the black part . Take 3 inches of the copper tubing , chamfer debur the end , apply JB to the outside of the tubing and press it into the spray nozzle where you drill it out . Add the 4 feet of clear tubing to the copper tubing and you are done . Worked great for me . I took it one step further and heated the end of the clear tubing and pressed it together in a vise to plug/close it off & then drill about 30 tiny holes in the length of the tubing at different spots and angles and this thing sprays Surface shield in all directions very well . This does not take long and works well inside rocker panels , the frame and other cavities .
Been using krown for 6 years on my 2005 silverado with 200k miles. Very minimal rust. The reality is, any of these products make a massive difference compared to the do nothing solution. Also, a spring time undercarriage wash to get salt off is essential.
@@vfr800ification I do this too - I have a pressure washer and an attachment that rolls on the ground and sprays four jets right up under the car. I use a mix of dish soap and Salt Away to remove dirt and salt. However, is it better to wash the chassis frequently or give it a coating and leave it?
So to elaborate on the wash off performance a little bit. Surface shield stays wet just like Woolwax, FF, NHOU, etc. The difference is with Surface Shield is when the initial "wetness" has been washed away by water spray, Surface Sheild has something in the product that makes it cling on the surface and continues to protect. I sprayed some exterior surfaces of my work car as a test. At the end of the winter the only way I could get it off the outside of the car was to literally SCRUB with a wash mitt. Just like cosmoline which does not creep, my pressure washer would not touch the Surface Shield. The difference is when it's wet Surface Shield creeps like crazy! Giving you the best of both world's. I didn't record this wash unfortunately because I had no idea that Surface Shield would behave this way. The reason that I'm elaborating on this is because I know people in the undercoating industry watch my channel and they will without a doubt put Surface Sheild in their salt spray cabinet and possibly claim their product is better than Surface Shield in a salt spray cabinet. Problem is salt spray cabinets are not reality. My testing has given repeatable results that differ from manufacturers salt spray testing results and have found issues with formulations that even the product chemists could not explain. Even testing multiple batches I've gotten the same results... My challenge to these other undercoating manufacturers is to subject Suface Shield to a test in reality before claiming to have the best product on the market...
I am curious as to what spray gun handle that you use for these aerosol cans. Have you found one in particular that you like. The one you use looks like it puts out a nice fan spray. Also I hope they start selling this at other locations. There isn't any Home Depot stores in my area that carry this. Hopefully someone starts to carry this locally as I would like to try this. Thanks for the review on it.
Why wouldn’t they get the same performance as your results though? I’m not familiar with a salt cabinet test, but this stuff seems legit, so if their product and this product go head to head in a cabinet, what’s happening in there that isn’t convincing them the PB product is better than theirs? Thanks!
@@usmc2msu213 The big variable is time. This is going to get long... Manufacturers use these salt spray cabinets as a way of doing standardized testing. These cabinets are $30,000 so not many people have access to one. The way these tests are conducted is they spray salt water on a test panel for X number of hours. The longer that the test panel survives without rust the "better" the product. I don't have specifics on how long each product lasts in these cabinets but, my tests ran for 5 months or about 4400 hours on that telephone pole. A typical salt spray test is 5 to 200 hours depending on how the product holds up. I've had manufacturers tell me up and down that their product will last longer in a salt cabinet than FF. I get their product and as it turns out, it doesn't preform as well as FF in my testing This is the most glaring example:th-cam.com/video/oXlhmbvdKBo/w-d-xo.html Thinking I got an old gallon they sent another to test. I got the same result: th-cam.com/video/9SOOfZFmhSY/w-d-xo.html This manufacturer could not explain these results. Their chemists could not explain these results. Testing 2 different batches gave the same result. As a manufacturer you shouldn't be finding out issues related to your product because some guy on the internet attached some scrap metal to a pole. As a content creator whose video's will be up on youtube for years it's very hard for me to get behind a product that is constantly being reformulated. In the video linked above the manufacture even commented that they were already working on their next revision to the formula right after a new version had just come out. In my personal opinion this company is not doing enough testing before releasing a new formula. So if I go online and say product X will keep your vehicle from rusting, 2 years from now and 4 formula revisions later it may no longer be a good product, people possibly develop rust, and I look like the bad guy because the audience has no idea 4 formula revisions that have taken place between my recommendation and present time, with little testing outside of a salt spray cabinet. This is not a shot at that company I have spoken with them at length about different products. They are truly fantastic people, some of the nicest people out there, and I cannot understate that enough. I just can't get behind the product with constant reformulations.
@@RepairGeek thanks for the great explanation! I thought I found the best of the best with WoolWax (it’s lasted great over two Michigan winters on my Tacoma) but that Blaster surface shield looks really promising. Once I find it in stock near me, I’m going to give it a go. Thanks again!
Good news; I just received four cans of Surface Shield I ordered from Home Depot, and they are not the male-type sprayer like the one you showed in the video. They are the familiar female-type can and should work perfectly with the sprayer adapter with hose. Hopefully the weather warms up this weekend and I can give my cans some thorough testing!
A Toyota tshirt would be a better testament to his experience with rust prevention. Keeping my Tacoma from rotting away before my eyes has been a chore
Im a true blue pb blaster user and fan. Ive had pipes that i had a 3 ft pipe wrench on and couldnt budge unless i broke it. So i got my trusted pb blaster and sprayed the fitting and pipe , went to lunch. 1 hr later went back and got ready to bow down on wrench and came apart like i heated it with torch. Ill always use it. Best ever
2015 ram 2500, 126,000 Illinois truck. Been using Krown, no rust. I 100% recommend Krown. Also, Krown gets inside your frame frame rails, inside your fenders, inside your doors, rocker panels, and cab corners. Places where humidity gets trapped and causes rust from the inside out.
Maybe I’m not understanding things correctly at 7:55 but one thing I would take into consideration is that the surface shield was sprayed onto a plastic surface and fluid film onto a metal surface. A polymer (oil) will interact/adhere more strongly with another polymer (plastic wheel well) and maybe even absorb into the plastic, and will have a weaker adhesion to the metal of the frame
NE Ohio absolutely kills our vehicles! This product looks unbelievable! I'm sold! Awesome being from a local company like Blaster! Now I just need to get through all this Fluid Film I have around the shop, ha, ha.
Thank you! Edit Feb.11, 2023, 8 months later after I watched this is and applied the PB Blaster on my 4runner. I am in Pacific North West where we see the sun very rarely as it rains the whole winter. This thing is still fluid, but has not moved at all. I would say the thickness left is at least 60% from original. So I will reaply before next winter, i.e. in Oct.2023. Thank you!
How great this country might be with such young men. But the girls today all want that ‘bad boy’. That’s why we’re quickly becoming a third world country, and probably even worse.
@@Ry_Guy I must agree last 2 times i did business with them it sucked to say the least. They seem to think blaming it on the customer is the thing to do.
Great video! I recently moved to the US from Australia and was absolutely blown away by the lack of two simple product bases for corrosion inhibiting in the states. Lanolin for one, which there are a few products for, but the biggest lack in the market here seems to be fish oil. You can walk into any auto store in Australia and buy deoderised fish oil in an aerosol. Whilst it isn't the best for undercarriage on it's own, it is great for inner sill cavities and the like. It's sprays fluid and dries tacky. There is a great product in Australia called KO-66 which is a lanolin, fish oil and bitchumen mix which is top notch, yet to find anything similar over here. Also similarly seems to be a lack of easy to access cavity waxes! Also great to use in sills and door skins etc.
Just applied this from the gallon bucket that's a friend picked up and had more than he needed. Only took about a quart to do a Kia Sedona. Went on great. I was worried about it's resilience to road spray and under carriage washes but your demonstration on your truck really puts my mind at ease on that front. Looking forward to seeing how it works.
Picked up the last two cans my local Harbor freight had to give this stuff a try. Surprisingly I was able to do a pretty thorough coat of like 80% of the bottom of my 2019 Ram with just two cans. I didn't spray into the frame holes as I only had two cans so I wanted to get the most surface area I could. If I had two more cans I would be confident that it's about as good as I could get it with the spray cans. I'd say 4 cans is plenty for a 1500!
Great vid. I am a heavy fluid film user. I live in the northeast. I literally use it on everything. The one thing I have to say about your pressure wash test is that the fluid film removes your factory undercoat. So technically the fluid film isn’t on the metal. Take that part of your frame and split it between the two. IMO I’m all about yearly applications Mainly because I do it myself. Keep the vids coming.
Do you wash your undercarriage at all throughout the year or in the winter to rinse the salt off ? Or do you just apply the fluid film and not wash it until your next application?
Sprayed some Surface Shield today on a Nissan previously sprayed with CRC in some areas and Fluid Film . Surface Shield seems to be a little more thin and flows better than Fluid Film but acts a little more sticky to the surface . I know my explanation seems contradictory but it seems to act just as I described . Surface Shied does not have a harsh smell like Fluid film does . I'm going to order a second 6 pack of Surface Shield .
Very interesting. I've tried Fluid Film on some chassis parts here in the rust belt and the stuff just washed off upon spring time inspection of the application. Will have to give Surface Shield a try. Time always tells all and I suspect that most people who have tried it out and written reviews haven't truly been able to test it out yet. Comparing the SDSs of the two products does look promising for Surface Shield. UPDATE: after only one month, with two test samples placed outside, one piece with the Fluid Film applied is showing rust while the side with Surface Shield still looks fine. As I suspected the Fluid Film washes off too easily. UPDATE: after two months, both Fluid Film and Surface Shield have washed off my test samples. So both product don't last and really are not suitable for undercarriage use.
Tried both the Blaster and the Fluid Film. The Blaster was more expensive and the Fluid Film sprayed much better. The blaster nozzle kept clogging up. I had to keep cleaning the nozzles to get through 2 cans. Unless the Blaster holds up far better I'm going back to Fluid Film.
I'm in Cleveland so right down the road from you and I tried Blaster product last year and loved it plus it was only $5 a can. No rust to report. Trying Fluid Film and Surface Shield this year on our vehicles. PB Blaster has always been good stuff. It will turn black but I just wipe excess off around quarter panels. After replacing break lines and other rusted parts on my 03' Escalade, Im not letting that happen to my 16' Ram because once Ram starts to rust its over with. Lol. Thanks again for this video.
@@kimbuck-2 afaik toyotas come with a galvanized coating, or some type of coating, that so long as it's there it basically makes the frame rust proof. It's best to waste the car during winter season every week or two though. But technically they don't need it. They started doing the plating/coating like 20 years ago? It's nice for customers tho
More competition for this sort of product is great. I will have a hard time switching from fluid film though. I kept a 1989 4Runner (notorious for rusting) generally rust free for 30 years in the northeast of the U.S. That means salt and brine all winter. On year 6 with a Wrangler and the same, rust free. If you spray any of these brands on THICK and let it get DIRTY and leave it on forever, it won’t matter how long a company claims it lasts. The formulation last long past two years. I just spray on top of each years application, but I guarantee I could skip a few years and it would be just fine.
after you applied the fluid film lets say you go beach driving do you still rinse the underside of your vehicle with water to get the sand and salt off? will spraying your vehicles undercarriage rinse away product? im curious on the details of fluid film with a long time user. also what's the best way to prepare the undercarriage to receive a coat of fluid film?
@@Abc444. Never take your own car to the beach. The sand will stay there forever and will get into parts too. My ex did that and the sand was under his truck for years, untill he sold it.
@wheezin_mtnbkr good job on the Wrangler, they are notorious to rusting I will have to try it with my next car. Currently looking for a car, because mine got totalled in April by another driver. It was 2002 Buick Lesabre and the only rust it had was tiny bit above the rear wheel on the fender, and I noticed at the end when cleaning that the water was coming into the trunk and made a rusty trail inside the trunk.
Just got my first truck 2015 silverado and it's in nice shape for michigan no body rust and I want to keep it that way. I've been considering doing something but looks like I need to invest in something along these lines. A gallon bucket and a sprayer for about 150.00 and some of my time would probably prevent a hundred headaches down the road.
I'd love to see a progressive long term test with a daily driver where you break the car into 3 or 4 treatment zones, LF RF LR RR, if you could even leave some portions of the chassis/body with a no treatment factory finish divider. A truck always makes for good chassis to use lots of open areas .
Ah my young man, thicker and smellier the better! I have a 2016 2500 living in New England. Fluid film since I bought the truck new. I spray the truck at the end of the summer so it gets hot enough that the “thick” fluid film WILL creep into every crevice. It does so so well that it wraps around every seam of every body panel the longer I leave it on without washing the truck. Listen kid the outcome is in the name “surface” not everyone has a rust free vehicle from the start. So that said if the product dries on, it stops penetrating. It’s not just a fact, it’s science. Fluid film and woolwax never dry so that means the deeper it penetrates. I did a test on /16 gauge real rusty piece steel and the longer it stayed on, 2 yrs, it actually made its way through to the other side. THAT sold me on fluid film. So my first coat on the truck was thick, and every year after was just a quick “touch up” spray. The key is not to wash the underside of your truck in the winter. Leave the crap on until the spring. If you use a pressure washer you not doing any justice for the fluid film to do it’s job. Just a spray nozzle on a garden hose does the trick. In the body panels,bumpers, rockers, frame etc. You will also need to use a different vehicle for future tests with this. Bare car from the start, because like I said fluid film gave yours and your dads truck a solid base that won’t wash off because it already penetrated the metals. Good luck kid hope Blaster co wasn’t an influence behind closed doors. $$$$
I used this on the whole underside of my XJ last November and it's still repelling water 5-6 months later. Not a speck of rust after its first salty Midwest winter
I bought 1g Fluid Film Black, after watching one of your reviews, last year. Then, after watching this one, I bought 1g Surface Shield. I ended up mixing the 2 50:50 to get the longer lasting SS, along with the black pigment of the FF. I applied it my wife's 2018 Jeep JLUR. I couldn't be happier with the initial results. It should be interesting to see how this mix holds up to New England weather. Now, I need to apply it to my 2011 Ford Raptor. Thanks for doing these test, and filming the results. Tim
Would you possibly be able to do a follow up video showing it maybe be on a bare piece of steel like you have on the pole, and spray it and another piece of steel with fluid film on it with some kind of salt water mixture like what project farm did and then pressure wash the pieces of steel and spray the mixture on again to see how they hold up to being washed off?
hello, watched you for the first time today and i am very thankful for your video. i have a 2003 toyota 4runner that recently went through PA. inspection and corrosion damage was found on my frame. i will be having a professional welding shop do the repairs but i was somewhat desperate to find a product that will protect the most favorite vehicle i have ever owned. your attention to detail as you test and observe the products has won me over to the blaster surface shield. i will be ordering several cans and do the work myself in the near future. thank you very much and you now have a new sub.
Good video young man. I am a retired Mechanic from the Operating Engineers here in Akron. I have use Blaster Products forever. I will try Surface Shield. I used for years some of my own concoctions that are interesting. Any way good video.
I have used other Blaster products over the years and they have done great for me, so this will be another one of there products that I will be using . Thanks for taking the time to explain the Surface Shield to us and where and how that you have tested it and how well that you like it . I subscribed to your channel and I will be looking for more of your videos. So be careful and stay safe and keep on testing stuff for us. As always, Jeffrey !!!
i love when this guy puts out a rust preventative video. ive seen a couple other videos from him too...i like'em. i like his strait to the pointness and no sugar coating. blunt. love it. reminds me of Mark Zuckerberg...or atleast the Zuckerberg portrayed by Jesse Eisenberg lol
Thanks. I can only really justify a couple rust videos a year because real rust takes lots of time lol. If I could do more I would. I just don't want to be redundant with 100s of the exact same video.
@@RepairGeek for sure. And i appreciate the efforts put into all of it. Being there is only few videos, it makes the new ones even more exciting lol Im honestly surprised u liked my comment...i didnt think u'd like the Zuckerberg comparison lol. I meant is as a compliment...i like the facts, no fluff
I use fluid film and its a charm. I do two undercoats a year. One before salt and one after. I live in Nova Scotia Canada and am 300ft from the coast. This place kills all steal cars are generaly only 5 years os so. My taco is 10 and no rust whatsoever. Also heat the fluid film before spreying.
Thank you for your evaluation of this product. I also live in Streetsboro Ohio not far from you and own a 2011 2500HD Silverado. She had been partially oils sprayed in the past but after multiple car washes its all getting washed away leaving a rusty frame. This product just might be what I need.
Hey It’s another great product. I’m using Woolwax,Fluid Film inside enclosed areas like wheel well arches, rocker panels between metal not exposed directly to the elements. I might even use this product in inner cavity. I have also starting using a salt eliminator . Excellent video tutorial
I just used 2 cases to do a 2019 GMC 4 door utility bed and i love the way it looks! It smells way better than fluid film also! This is the best you are right!
I just placed an order for 6 cans of Surface Shield, the pack of two spray can handle adapters, the wool wax cavity hose/wand, and the package of the male-to-male spray can converter caps. I can't wait to try this. I had my 2015 Silverado coated twice since November 2020 with Fluid Film. but the shop where it was done closed so now I need to touch my truck up myself. I hope that Fluid Film and Surface Shield are compatible.
You could always do the drivers side in Blaster and the passenger side with the remaining products you have. That way it could be done and in use by the time winter rolls around.
Thanks for this video. I've been using the CRC Heavy Duty Corrosion Inhibitor (because of your previous videos), but this will probably be a little better and cheaper once it's available in bulk.
Watched your video 8 months ago and was finally able to find Surface Shield earlier this year. I treated the inside of my Toyota’s frame and it’s been great so far. The only grip I can come up with is, when it’s hot the stuff softens enough that it drips from the frame drain holes onto the ground. I’ll be coating some of the external bits when it cools off in the fall.
Dude, thank you for the videos! I am moving to the Midwest next week for the first time ever. I have always lived down south or west coast so I know nothing about these coatings but wanted to learn as much as possible. The part I am sad about is that I have always been proud of my clean undercarriages and engine bays. Looks like you just need to let years of gunk build up for better protection, well here goes.. This should be interesting because I have a near mint condition 2008 Tundra and a brand new 2021 Forester with under 1000 miles. Your videos have encouraged me to do this and I believe I'll give Blaster a shot at it if I can find it in KC. I don't know though, not being able to use an attachment could push me towards fluid film, I'll try to update you, thanks!
Whatever you do, make sure you do a thorough job. That salt and chlorinated liquid can get in all the nooks and crannies you miss. And there are a LOT of nooks and crannies. Pay special attention to brake lines, fuel lines, fuel tank straps, and pull any plastic body plugs in doors or under panels and spray in there. Spray above the spare tire on your truck. Inside frame rails. Inside the tailgate. Behind the tail lights, all the door latches too. Get inside the panels of the bed as good as you can. Spray the wheel wells. Inside the fenders too. A rust free vehicle in the salt belt is like a unicorn. If you coat it really good though, you can keep it that way.
@@ReidEvers I know you can order cans and even buckets of it from auto parts stores like O'reillys. That way you don't even have to pay shipping. Just have them look it up and order some for you.
@@ReidEvers Found Fluid Film yesterday at Advance, think I’m going to settle for that. I was surprised not a lot of people at parts stores and hardware stores knew what I was talking about. Most people thought I was looking for bedliner sprays..
Great video. I recently used their silicone spray for maintenance on an Arizona residence that gets the brunt of heat, dust etc. Various door hinges, locks, blinds, window and patio door tracks etc. I had another brand but I liked the Blaster product better as it worked very well. Cautious optimism this workes just as well.
Looks like good product. Like ur extended mud flaps too. Undercoating years ago got hard cracked held in water. That looks good for rustproofing. Before vechial ever sees a winter.
Guy I live in Seneca County and found a excellent undercoating and you will be shocked, it is Roof Patch. costs about $20 a gallon and you can get a undercoat spray gun either on line or use a TSC hand spot sand blaster. As you were talking about creep even though Roof Patch is kinda thick it takes about day for it to set-up if you thin it out and trust me it will creep. About a day or so later you have it marking the floor. So far it works for me so I am going to stick with it.
Thanks for this video. I'm bringing a rust free truck home to Akron and I've been looking for a DIY rustproofing to put on it before winter. The salt here in Akron is brutal.
@@burnedtoast8151 it lasted pretty long, I first discovered it when I didnt have actual paint for my rusty gym equipment, took it apart and was supposed to put back together, but I procrastinated. 2 months later I finally did and I had to touch up a few spots and I used every since on anything. It still doesnt have paint on it just the rust- reformer
I used a rust reformer on my steel wheels on my vw. It was quite rusted. I just wire brushed it, used the rust reformer and let it dry, then painted it black. I'm surprised the wheels dont have rust yet after maybe 7 years. I like this better than the annual application of the stuff.
I wool waxed my 1995 f150 two years ago and it's still there. I run it through the car wash that has undercarriage high pressure wash and it hasn't taken it off. I've gotten it in my skin when working on the truck and it takes a bunch of Dawn detergent to wash it off. With this new stuff being lanolin based, I imagine it is fine to spray it on top of the wool wax
Might not be as easy to use as the cavity attachment, but you can use the WD-40 spray nozzles with the red straw attached. You could probably even rig it with a extension to make it easier.
I've been trying to decide what to use to protect the bottom of my mower deck. Ground off all rust to clean metal. #1 Any old paint,#2 Epoxy paint,#3 Fiberglass resin, #4 A rust inhibiter AKA Surface Shield. Most paint supposedly will only last a couple of years, the grass is that abrasive, so if I will need to re-paint every couple years maybe Surface Shield is the way to go. What do you think?
I don't know what happened to PB Blaster some 10 years ago, but the penitrating spray used to be the best and now is about on par with WD-40. I still have one of there old cans and tested it last year, still works amazing. Had to stop using it, but this looks to be promising of the company i used to know. Definitely picking up a can of Surface Shield next time I'm at the big box store
Yeah, I absolutely would not trust this stuff because PB Blaster has gone downhill to such an extent that even WD-40 managed to beat PD Blaster in Project Farm's "Which Penetrating Oil is Best" testing video. Given that Repair Geek was sponsored by PB Blaster to make this video, I would not trust what I see here either. I'll wait until Project Farm does testing with this stuff before I can believe it. Until then, I'll keep using Fluid Film.
@@SergeantExtreme it doesn't stake a genius to strap some scrap metal on a telephone pole out by the road... If you think I'm full of it, it's not exactly hard to run that test.
@@RepairGeek At the same time, this is why you don't take sponsorships, then recommend said sponsor's product over their competitors. Even if you are correct in your assessment, it looks extremely suspect.
PB Blaster products are no joke. I bought a 120yr old coal burning parlor heater that was in this lady’s family since new. I need to remove the cast iron sides to have them soda blasted. The bolts were large flat heads and the nuts were large hex heads. I soaked every nut and bolt on that heater with their penetrating lube, I tried the usual WD 40 etc. used PB Blaster, let soak for a day and was able to removed every nut and bolt from the heater except one that was located next to the belly of the furnace where the coal went, hottest part of the stove. Never would have guessed that the product would worked so well been using it ever since!
Just bought a 2022 Kubota L2501 and want it to stay nice forever- ordered 4 cans from HD just now. Thank you for doing the research and testing! Helped me decide what to do. Jason
Thank you for the testing. I generally have been keeping my undercarriage on my 2011 Tundra 4WD rust free with Eastwood Chassis Black.. get under and touch up usually each year. But I do have a can of the Blaster, and was planning to use it where it makes sense.
Wire brush then treat as normal.Ive used TCW3 two stroke oil mixed with a splash of kero and that stuff will eventually clean the old rust off down to a better surface.But you have to keep after it.
It’s nearly twice the price of Fluid Film so you best get twice the coverage term. Being thinner isn’t necessarily a good thing. Yes it’ll spray and creep better but that usually means it’ll wash away easier than anything with more “build” to it. Not totally convinced. Sticking with Fluid Film Black for the time being.
From Canada. Decades ago started with Rust Chek the switched to Krown, both oil sprays. They worked well in panels but due to their almost watery texture, the under side would come off after driving on wet roads. A few years ago I switched to Corrosion free (cans are available at Canadian Tire sold as Rust Cure and also dealers of Corrosion Free can spray them) which is a bit thicker than Rust Chek and Krown. Corrosion Free stops dripping during application. Recommended to apply Corrosion free in warmer months to ensure it creeps to the bottom off panels. It’s been doing very well so far and not washing off the underside. Maybe it’s similar to Blaster Surface shield?
Woolwax has a really thick product they call HV wheel well grease. It's pretty hard to wash it off with pressure washer. I coat my cars (whole undercarriage) with it using brush. If I need it to get it into cavities I just delute it with any kind of mineral spirits, rubbing alcohol or wax degreeser then spray. It's the kind of long lasting treatment which you definitely don't have to renew every year or even two. It would be really interesting to see this product tested too.
Hey thanks for doing all this valuable research. I’ve been using rust check and krown with good results but newer vehicles are rust resistant coated from the factory better than they used to be. I haven’t kept a vehicle long enough to prove they actually work but the exposed parts on the underbody are mostly missing any undercoating after a winter. I’m thinking surface shield may be the answer for best all around coverage. Just wondering what your thoughts are with using it bulk with a pressurized 1 liter undercoating gun rather than the air / siphon type sprayer. Wouldn’t that make less air borne when spraying?
Interesting! I would like to purchase some of this amazing new product, where in Canada will this be available? I am sure Canadian Tire in Canada would love to offer this product to its customers.
Hey Andrew Thanks for bringing this to our attention. It’s good you advised Blaster management of extension hose issue. Maybe it can be mixed with Woolwax or Fluid Film ? I’m going to pickup some cans and a 5 gallon bucket when I can get it. Keep us updated Excellent video
I believe the spray can version of any product of this type substance is partially diluted in a way to help it properly spray out of can without getting clogged. Slight dilution will help everyone using a smaller air compressor. That’s all
Thanks for this. In WV trying to spare 2 cars because of the area and I live right next to water. Never done undercoat before but will be going ham during my 6m maintenance
I enjoy your rust protection reviews / videos and you're doing a Great job but let me tell you about CRC Extreme Duty Open Gear and Chain Lube which is the very best rust protection and is commonly used in industrial applications but works fantastic on rusty vehicle undercarriage. Try it.
I'm a little cautious when it's a paid advertisement, but I do love pb blaster, so I'm willing to give it a shot, it would be nice if that aerosol can could accommodate the 360° spray nozzle, I hope that's changed befor I use fluid film on the inside of my frame ( I have a bran new 2021 4runner) that hasn't seen a winter yet and I'd love to do a long term test on using only pb blasters product
You have to remember, I was honest enough to tell you that it was a paid video and I also explained why. It would have been very easy for me to not mention any of that and keep my audience in the dark. I've always been very honest with my audience and that hasn't changed. The product works.
@@RepairGeekyou are required by TH-cam to label the video a paid advertisement so saying it means nothing. Beyond obvious they paid you off to do this. On top of that you bashed the other products you showed. A product should stand on it’s own, hopefully Fluid Film gets their attorneys on this false representation. The bucket you showed was an old half dried out pail of Fluid Film versus a fresh pail Blaster gave you specifically for this commercial.
I find myself watching lots of your videos. I live near the ocean. Fog carries the salt everywhere, even stainless screws etc. corrode out here. I torture test some items on my Bike that I ride along the ocean shore. I often cover bolt and screw threads with lithium grease because it is easy . Maybe marine grease would be better? For extreme use I wrap teflon tape on threads before assembly. It helps keep bolt threads from locking into the nuts.(BTDT) . Anyway your tests have applications outside of your narrow range of preferred use.
I’m pretty interested in surface shield but am wondering if you’re currently doing a long term test on it now? I’m a bit skeptical to buy until I see you do your long term test and post results. It’s easy to claim they’re the best based on the consistency and ease of application due to said consistency but I want to see the results. I will be waiting for an update video come spring time!
Great insight and I plan on buying this product since I own 4 vehicles, I don't live in the North where salt is used to rid of ice, but live in the south and I want peace of mind knowing my vehicle's are protected, Thanks for a great video
Edit 11/4/22: Going forward Surface Shield will have female tops on the cans. I showed that the cans had male tops in this video. That has been changed and the female cans are working their way into the market.
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Neighbor just painted everything under his car with a oil based rustoleum black paint.
I never heard of anyone doing this.
Was this a good or bad idea?
@@Sound_The_War-Cry In my opinion time will tell, it's better than nothing and it all depends on how it was applied.
I myself i would have applied surface shield, never tried that and again you are right never heard of
anyone doing that either.
@@Sound_The_War-Cry Bad idea. Paint does not displace moisture. So any moisture that was on the surface or in the pores of the metal/rust are just sealed in by the paint. This is also the same reason why traditional undercoating fails. It seals in moisture. Also any chips in the paint will let moisture in as well. Lanolin will displace moisture and create a barrier between the oxygen and the metal so it can't rust. I don't care who makes the Lanolin product they all function better than paint or rubberized undercoatings but need re-applied every year.
Can you spray fluid film over rubberized coating? I sprayed my new vehicle with some rattle can rubberized undercoating. I just found out about how bad the rubberized stuff is. So is it OK for me to go over the rubberized coating with some oil based undercoating? Or what should I do?
I found the best rust preventative for me was moving from OH to AZ
I'd rather rust in Ohio, and I'm not a fan of Ohio.
I'm about to try a similar approach, drive to Texas from New York. I think it's in my trucks best interests.
@@frostyjim2633 good luck with the rats and scorpions…. This and many other reasons why that part of the country remain pretty much uninhabited for centuries..
None of that in az. Ive only seen 2 scorpions my whole like in az@@mazepa-slavaukrayini932
@@mazepa-slavaukrayini932desert is very appealing
Thanks Andrew! We are working hard to get placement for the 1 and 5 gallon size options and will provide an update as soon as we have one. Thanks!
Will this be available in Canada?
@@rogerb6611 It's something we are working on as well!
I was just about to ask about 5 gallon buckets. If it hold up better I'm willing to switch from the NAS fluid film ive been using.
we need this in Ontario Canada
Great video as always. Pb Blaster couldn't have picked a better spokesman. Being from Ohio I've always choose PB Blaster products. Can't wait for it to come in 5 gallon. They should partner with Eastwood or Summit. I get my packages from summit next day. It saves me a trip to Akron.
This guy has a ford shirt so you know he's got a lifelong experience with repairing vehicles. I'd take him very serious
😂🤣😂🤣
LMAO
Lol what if someone is wearing a Chevy shirt... does that mean he or she is 💩🤣
Absolutely! Like a GM owner testing walking shoes !!
As a 1998 F150 driver from western PA... You're not wrong 😆
I started watching your videos because I heard you mention lanolin as an undercoat. The reason it interested me was because I am an industrial machine mechanic, I work in alot of different environments from high to low temp. and different percentages of humidity. I began using a tool bag several years ago and my Dad told me that if I was going to be working in all these different environments that I should thin coat my stuff with lanolin to prevent everything from rusting. That was thirty years ago, my Dad is gone but every tool I owned from that time is still rust free. I still have guys ask me when they see me loading up my tools what am I using and I tell them lanolin. I use mineral spirits to clean and lanolin to protect. Then I usually have to have the WD-40 argument with them. I have seen machines get destroyed because these guys grow up thinking WD-40 does it all, it does not. Anyway, you gave me some justification for my seemingly anal aversion to WD-40 and my belief in lanolin. You have useful info and your presentation is concise and interesting! Great stuff!
WD 40 frees things up immediately but attracts moisture in the long term. WD-40 is obsolete in my opinion.
@@jeffrobodine8579 WD-40, literally means "Water Displacement 40th attempt" I have never heard anyone state it attracts moisture. It's a poor penetrating lube IMO compared to KROIL or PB even.
@@GregHuston Is this a joke? Project Farm's testing shows that PB is one of the absolute worst penetrating fluids on the entire market. Even WD-40 beat PB as a penetrating fluid.
@@SergeantExtreme Not a Joke, WD-40 does NOT attract Moisture it Displaces Water! How's that a Joke? KROIL is the absolute best I don't care what some guy on a farm shows and PB is a penetrating lube, WD-40 is NOT, WD40 the brand does sell a specialty WD-40 branded penetrating lube but is not the traditional WD-40.
@@GregHuston Ha ha ha! 🤣🤣🤣 You are fanboying so hard it's both sad and pathetic. Project Farm did unbiased, scientific testing. The only thing you have to back your extremely ignorant comment is "muh opinion" which is quite worthless, might I point out.
I did purchase Surface Shield for my FJ that always has surface rust. It does work and I have to thank you for steering me in the right direction! ❤
You applied over existing rust?
No, you get rid of the heavy rust with a wire brush, then put surface shield on. No rust for the last three years 🤗
Blaster Surface Shield Home Made Extension Sprayer for $5 : Needed items 3/16 copper or steel tubing , 3/16 drill bit,4 ft of clear flexible rubber tubing and a little JB weld . Remove the spray nozzle from the blaster can . Carefully drill out the black spray orfice with a 3/16 drill, drill out just the black part . Take 3 inches of the copper tubing , chamfer debur the end , apply JB to the outside of the tubing and press it into the spray nozzle where you drill it out . Add the 4 feet of clear tubing to the copper tubing and you are done . Worked great for me . I took it one step further and heated the end of the clear tubing and pressed it together in a vise to plug/close it off & then drill about 30 tiny holes in the length of the tubing at different spots and angles and this thing sprays Surface shield in all directions very well . This does not take long and works well inside rocker panels , the frame and other cavities .
PD, great narrative
Need to make a vid of this!
thanks for info. if you get a chance, please make a video, upload to youtube and post it here
Great idea! I have a sprayer but no hoses, so I'll make some.
Been using krown for 6 years on my 2005 silverado with 200k miles. Very minimal rust. The reality is, any of these products make a massive difference compared to the do nothing solution. Also, a spring time undercarriage wash to get salt off is essential.
I wish I knew this years ago. My 04 Silverado had a very small amount of rust and now the rockers are pretty much gone after a handful of winters.
I do an undercarriage wash after every snow storm. Helps a lot!
@@vfr800ification I do this too - I have a pressure washer and an attachment that rolls on the ground and sprays four jets right up under the car. I use a mix of dish soap and Salt Away to remove dirt and salt.
However, is it better to wash the chassis frequently or give it a coating and leave it?
@@JimmyDoresHairDye A bidet for cars.
@@JimmyDoresHairDye How do you do that in winter when it's below freezing? Aren't you just coating car and driveway with ice?
I'm still amazed at the number of people that let their cars and trucks rust away to junk. Looks like a good product I'll have to buy some.
Bro your long drawn out test are top tier. Going beyond what others would do. Thank you so much.
So to elaborate on the wash off performance a little bit. Surface shield stays wet just like Woolwax, FF, NHOU, etc. The difference is with Surface Shield is when the initial "wetness" has been washed away by water spray, Surface Sheild has something in the product that makes it cling on the surface and continues to protect.
I sprayed some exterior surfaces of my work car as a test. At the end of the winter the only way I could get it off the outside of the car was to literally SCRUB with a wash mitt. Just like cosmoline which does not creep, my pressure washer would not touch the Surface Shield. The difference is when it's wet Surface Shield creeps like crazy! Giving you the best of both world's. I didn't record this wash unfortunately because I had no idea that Surface Shield would behave this way.
The reason that I'm elaborating on this is because I know people in the undercoating industry watch my channel and they will without a doubt put Surface Sheild in their salt spray cabinet and possibly claim their product is better than Surface Shield in a salt spray cabinet. Problem is salt spray cabinets are not reality. My testing has given repeatable results that differ from manufacturers salt spray testing results and have found issues with formulations that even the product chemists could not explain. Even testing multiple batches I've gotten the same results... My challenge to these other undercoating manufacturers is to subject Suface Shield to a test in reality before claiming to have the best product on the market...
I am curious as to what spray gun handle that you use for these aerosol cans. Have you found one in particular that you like. The one you use looks like it puts out a nice fan spray. Also I hope they start selling this at other locations. There isn't any Home Depot stores in my area that carry this. Hopefully someone starts to carry this locally as I would like to try this. Thanks for the review on it.
@@sandmans74 the spray pattern is from the can not the handle. Check the description I listed the handles there.
Why wouldn’t they get the same performance as your results though? I’m not familiar with a salt cabinet test, but this stuff seems legit, so if their product and this product go head to head in a cabinet, what’s happening in there that isn’t convincing them the PB product is better than theirs? Thanks!
@@usmc2msu213 The big variable is time. This is going to get long... Manufacturers use these salt spray cabinets as a way of doing standardized testing. These cabinets are $30,000 so not many people have access to one. The way these tests are conducted is they spray salt water on a test panel for X number of hours. The longer that the test panel survives without rust the "better" the product. I don't have specifics on how long each product lasts in these cabinets but, my tests ran for 5 months or about 4400 hours on that telephone pole. A typical salt spray test is 5 to 200 hours depending on how the product holds up. I've had manufacturers tell me up and down that their product will last longer in a salt cabinet than FF. I get their product and as it turns out, it doesn't preform as well as FF in my testing
This is the most glaring example:th-cam.com/video/oXlhmbvdKBo/w-d-xo.html
Thinking I got an old gallon they sent another to test. I got the same result: th-cam.com/video/9SOOfZFmhSY/w-d-xo.html
This manufacturer could not explain these results. Their chemists could not explain these results. Testing 2 different batches gave the same result. As a manufacturer you shouldn't be finding out issues related to your product because some guy on the internet attached some scrap metal to a pole.
As a content creator whose video's will be up on youtube for years it's very hard for me to get behind a product that is constantly being reformulated. In the video linked above the manufacture even commented that they were already working on their next revision to the formula right after a new version had just come out. In my personal opinion this company is not doing enough testing before releasing a new formula. So if I go online and say product X will keep your vehicle from rusting, 2 years from now and 4 formula revisions later it may no longer be a good product, people possibly develop rust, and I look like the bad guy because the audience has no idea 4 formula revisions that have taken place between my recommendation and present time, with little testing outside of a salt spray cabinet.
This is not a shot at that company I have spoken with them at length about different products. They are truly fantastic people, some of the nicest people out there, and I cannot understate that enough. I just can't get behind the product with constant reformulations.
@@RepairGeek thanks for the great explanation! I thought I found the best of the best with WoolWax (it’s lasted great over two Michigan winters on my Tacoma) but that Blaster surface shield looks really promising. Once I find it in stock near me, I’m going to give it a go. Thanks again!
Good news; I just received four cans of Surface Shield I ordered from Home Depot, and they are not the male-type sprayer like the one you showed in the video. They are the familiar female-type can and should work perfectly with the sprayer adapter with hose. Hopefully the weather warms up this weekend and I can give my cans some thorough testing!
Sweeeet !
Did the spray extension work?
where did u get the extension wand??
A Toyota tshirt would be a better testament to his experience with rust prevention. Keeping my Tacoma from rotting away before my eyes has been a chore
Im a true blue pb blaster user and fan. Ive had pipes that i had a 3 ft pipe wrench on and couldnt budge unless i broke it. So i got my trusted pb blaster and sprayed the fitting and pipe , went to lunch. 1 hr later went back and got ready to bow down on wrench and came apart like i heated it with torch. Ill always use it. Best ever
2015 ram 2500, 126,000 Illinois truck. Been using Krown, no rust. I 100% recommend Krown. Also, Krown gets inside your frame frame rails, inside your fenders, inside your doors, rocker panels, and cab corners. Places where humidity gets trapped and causes rust from the inside out.
It’s a very good product.
Do you purchase it or go to a krown facility?😂
@billseiler4952 I go to Krown St.Louis. I also purchase a few cans while I'm there for other random things.
Maybe I’m not understanding things correctly at 7:55 but one thing I would take into consideration is that the surface shield was sprayed onto a plastic surface and fluid film onto a metal surface. A polymer (oil) will interact/adhere more strongly with another polymer (plastic wheel well) and maybe even absorb into the plastic, and will have a weaker adhesion to the metal of the frame
He was testing on the metal washers holding the plastic on
NE Ohio absolutely kills our vehicles! This product looks unbelievable! I'm sold! Awesome being from a local company like Blaster! Now I just need to get through all this Fluid Film I have around the shop, ha, ha.
We used fluid film products in the Navy on F/A-18 aircraft. They also have some coffee called CPC types, 2, and 3. That stuff is amazing
So-sure?
Coast Guard aircraft also.
What about cosmoline
I just own a ford and it comes standard with oil leaks. Great rust prevention
Must be nice Chevys come from the factory with rust
😂 I have a 21 year old Toyota that has a unintentional under coating also.
My ford's don't leak nothing ones a 92
My fords have never had oil leaks.
@@fordnut4914 must not drive them much or it was built on a Wednesday by a Chevy worker who just transferred to Ford.
Jk, how many miles?
Thank you! Edit Feb.11, 2023, 8 months later after I watched this is and applied the PB Blaster on my 4runner. I am in Pacific North West where we see the sun very rarely as it rains the whole winter. This thing is still fluid, but has not moved at all. I would say the thickness left is at least 60% from original. So I will reaply before next winter, i.e. in Oct.2023. Thank you!
Liked and subbed, you did a great job young man, very focused and you seem completely unbiased. Good job, the US needs more young people like you!
How great this country might be with such young men.
But the girls today all want that ‘bad boy’.
That’s why we’re quickly becoming a third world country, and probably even worse.
As a fellow Ohioan you have certainly made it a lot easier for me to pick an undercoating. Greatly appreciate all your testing!
I love Ohio and I even like our winters but absolutely hate how fast vehicles get destroyed in the winter. Makes any bolts on the underside a PITA too
Home Depot has exclusive rights to way too many products and the pricing is out of sight. No competition equals higher prices.
Home Depot sucks.
@@Ry_Guy I must agree last 2 times i did business with them it sucked to say the least. They seem to think blaming it on the customer is the thing to do.
@@Ry_Guy Lowes is even worse.
@@RTMcFly-ni4qy yeah all big box stores suck honestly
@@Ry_Guy and that's what most people have to shop at since they squeezed everyone else out. Gotta love monopolies. Smh
Great video! I recently moved to the US from Australia and was absolutely blown away by the lack of two simple product bases for corrosion inhibiting in the states. Lanolin for one, which there are a few products for, but the biggest lack in the market here seems to be fish oil. You can walk into any auto store in Australia and buy deoderised fish oil in an aerosol. Whilst it isn't the best for undercarriage on it's own, it is great for inner sill cavities and the like. It's sprays fluid and dries tacky.
There is a great product in Australia called KO-66 which is a lanolin, fish oil and bitchumen mix which is top notch, yet to find anything similar over here. Also similarly seems to be a lack of easy to access cavity waxes! Also great to use in sills and door skins etc.
Glad to get away from the insane jab regime?
Enjoy your new found gun rights too.
Well, Van I just learned something! Thanks for the info!
Fluid film, a lanolin based product has been available here for many years, just have to know where to look.
You really need to get more familiar with Amazon and TH-cam.
@@STBRetired1 not sure what you mean?
Just applied this from the gallon bucket that's a friend picked up and had more than he needed. Only took about a quart to do a Kia Sedona. Went on great. I was worried about it's resilience to road spray and under carriage washes but your demonstration on your truck really puts my mind at ease on that front. Looking forward to seeing how it works.
Appreciate if you could update your status now, how rust protected as present? Thanks in advance
Picked up the last two cans my local Harbor freight had to give this stuff a try. Surprisingly I was able to do a pretty thorough coat of like 80% of the bottom of my 2019 Ram with just two cans. I didn't spray into the frame holes as I only had two cans so I wanted to get the most surface area I could. If I had two more cans I would be confident that it's about as good as I could get it with the spray cans. I'd say 4 cans is plenty for a 1500!
Great vid. I am a heavy fluid film user. I live in the northeast. I literally use it on everything. The one thing I have to say about your pressure wash test is that the fluid film removes your factory undercoat. So technically the fluid film isn’t on the metal.
Take that part of your frame and split it between the two.
IMO I’m all about yearly applications
Mainly because I do it myself.
Keep the vids coming.
Yeah, even if the product "claims" that it would last two years, I would never apply it anything less than annually.
Do you wash your undercarriage at all throughout the year or in the winter to rinse the salt off ? Or do you just apply the fluid film and not wash it until your next application?
Sprayed some Surface Shield today on a Nissan previously sprayed with CRC in some areas and Fluid Film . Surface Shield seems to be a little more thin and flows better than Fluid Film but acts a little more sticky to the surface . I know my explanation seems contradictory but it seems to act just as I described . Surface Shied does not have a harsh smell like Fluid film does . I'm going to order a second 6 pack of Surface Shield .
Very interesting. I've tried Fluid Film on some chassis parts here in the rust belt and the stuff just washed off upon spring time inspection of the application. Will have to give Surface Shield a try. Time always tells all and I suspect that most people who have tried it out and written reviews haven't truly been able to test it out yet. Comparing the SDSs of the two products does look promising for Surface Shield.
UPDATE: after only one month, with two test samples placed outside, one piece with the Fluid Film applied is showing rust while the side with Surface Shield still looks fine. As I suspected the Fluid Film washes off too easily.
UPDATE: after two months, both Fluid Film and Surface Shield have washed off my test samples. So both product don't last and really are not suitable for undercarriage use.
What’s the best brand then?
What about Liqui moly Seilfett(cable grease)?
I can testify 100 percent, using fluid film on my 2000 jeep Cherokee has been fantastic. Will stick with it.
I bought Surface Shield Aerosol yesterday at Harbor Freight. If I'm not mistaken it was $9.99 a can. Roughly the same price as Amazon.
Thanks wonderd where I could buy it.
Not a bad price, but Home Depot has it for under $9/can with free shipping for a 2 pack right now.
Tried both the Blaster and the Fluid Film. The Blaster was more expensive and the Fluid Film sprayed much better. The blaster nozzle kept clogging up. I had to keep cleaning the nozzles to get through 2 cans. Unless the Blaster holds up far better I'm going back to Fluid Film.
I'm in Cleveland so right down the road from you and I tried Blaster product last year and loved it plus it was only $5 a can. No rust to report. Trying Fluid Film and Surface Shield this year on our vehicles. PB Blaster has always been good stuff. It will turn black but I just wipe excess off around quarter panels. After replacing break lines and other rusted parts on my 03' Escalade, Im not letting that happen to my 16' Ram because once Ram starts to rust its over with. Lol. Thanks again for this video.
A '16 vehicle doesn't come with factory coating of any time? Damn. Guess I've gotten to used to toyota lol. Wonder why they don't do it
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Toyota has to do something because they will rust in half , cheap thin, frame and body panels
@@kimbuck-2 afaik toyotas come with a galvanized coating, or some type of coating, that so long as it's there it basically makes the frame rust proof. It's best to waste the car during winter season every week or two though. But technically they don't need it.
They started doing the plating/coating like 20 years ago? It's nice for customers tho
More competition for this sort of product is great. I will have a hard time switching from fluid film though. I kept a 1989 4Runner (notorious for rusting) generally rust free for 30 years in the northeast of the U.S. That means salt and brine all winter. On year 6 with a Wrangler and the same, rust free. If you spray any of these brands on THICK and let it get DIRTY and leave it on forever, it won’t matter how long a company claims it lasts. The formulation last long past two years. I just spray on top of each years application, but I guarantee I could skip a few years and it would be just fine.
after you applied the fluid film lets say you go beach driving do you still rinse the underside of your vehicle with water to get the sand and salt off? will spraying your vehicles undercarriage rinse away product? im curious on the details of fluid film with a long time user. also what's the best way to prepare the undercarriage to receive a coat of fluid film?
@@Abc444. Never take your own car to the beach. The sand will stay there forever and will get into parts too. My ex did that and the sand was under his truck for years, untill he sold it.
@wheezin_mtnbkr good job on the Wrangler, they are notorious to rusting
I will have to try it with my next car. Currently looking for a car, because mine got totalled in April by another driver. It was 2002 Buick Lesabre and the only rust it had was tiny bit above the rear wheel on the fender, and I noticed at the end when cleaning that the water was coming into the trunk and made a rusty trail inside the trunk.
Just got my first truck 2015 silverado and it's in nice shape for michigan no body rust and I want to keep it that way. I've been considering doing something but looks like I need to invest in something along these lines. A gallon bucket and a sprayer for about 150.00 and some of my time would probably prevent a hundred headaches down the road.
Been watching your videos the last few days. CANTON OHIO here! (Great job by the way) Glad we are neighbors.
I'd love to see a progressive long term test with a daily driver where you break the car into 3 or 4 treatment zones, LF RF LR RR, if you could even leave some portions of the chassis/body with a no treatment factory finish divider. A truck always makes for good chassis to use lots of open areas .
Also available at Harbor Freight fo $6.49
Appreciate the effort you put into this research.
Ah my young man, thicker and smellier the better! I have a 2016 2500 living in New England. Fluid film since I bought the truck new. I spray the truck at the end of the summer so it gets hot enough that the “thick” fluid film WILL creep into every crevice. It does so so well that it wraps around every seam of every body panel the longer I leave it on without washing the truck. Listen kid the outcome is in the name “surface” not everyone has a rust free vehicle from the start. So that said if the product dries on, it stops penetrating. It’s not just a fact, it’s science. Fluid film and woolwax never dry so that means the deeper it penetrates. I did a test on /16 gauge real rusty piece steel and the longer it stayed on, 2 yrs, it actually made its way through to the other side. THAT sold me on fluid film. So my first coat on the truck was thick, and every year after was just a quick “touch up” spray. The key is not to wash the underside of your truck in the winter. Leave the crap on until the spring. If you use a pressure washer you not doing any justice for the fluid film to do it’s job. Just a spray nozzle on a garden hose does the trick. In the body panels,bumpers, rockers, frame etc. You will also need to use a different vehicle for future tests with this. Bare car from the start, because like I said fluid film gave yours and your dads truck a solid base that won’t wash off because it already penetrated the metals. Good luck kid hope Blaster co wasn’t an influence behind closed doors. $$$$
He actually works for Blaster now. Hmmm.
I used this on the whole underside of my XJ last November and it's still repelling water 5-6 months later. Not a speck of rust after its first salty Midwest winter
Great!
Tk for this, always good to keep on top of this stuff. Competition is king!
I bought 1g Fluid Film Black, after watching one of your reviews, last year. Then, after watching this one, I bought 1g Surface Shield.
I ended up mixing the 2 50:50 to get the longer lasting SS, along with the black pigment of the FF. I applied it my wife's 2018 Jeep JLUR. I couldn't be happier with the initial results. It should be interesting to see how this mix holds up to New England weather.
Now, I need to apply it to my 2011 Ford Raptor. Thanks for doing these test, and filming the results.
Tim
Would you possibly be able to do a follow up video showing it maybe be on a bare piece of steel like you have on the pole, and spray it and another piece of steel with fluid film on it with some kind of salt water mixture like what project farm did and then pressure wash the pieces of steel and spray the mixture on again to see how they hold up to being washed off?
hello, watched you for the first time today and i am very thankful for your video. i have a 2003 toyota 4runner that recently went through PA. inspection and corrosion damage was found on my frame. i will be having a professional welding shop do the repairs but i was somewhat desperate to find a product that will protect the most favorite vehicle i have ever owned. your attention to detail as you test and observe the products has won me over to the blaster surface shield. i will be ordering several cans and do the work myself in the near future. thank you very much and you now have a new sub.
Good video young man. I am a retired Mechanic from the Operating Engineers here in Akron. I have use Blaster Products forever. I will try Surface Shield. I used for years some of my own concoctions that are interesting. Any way good video.
I have used other Blaster products over the years and they have done great for me, so this will be another one of there products that I will be using . Thanks for taking the time to explain the Surface Shield to us and where and how that you have tested it and how well that you like it . I subscribed to your channel and I will be looking for more of your videos. So be careful and stay safe and keep on testing stuff for us.
As always, Jeffrey !!!
i love when this guy puts out a rust preventative video. ive seen a couple other videos from him too...i like'em. i like his strait to the pointness and no sugar coating. blunt. love it. reminds me of Mark Zuckerberg...or atleast the Zuckerberg portrayed by Jesse Eisenberg lol
Thanks. I can only really justify a couple rust videos a year because real rust takes lots of time lol. If I could do more I would. I just don't want to be redundant with 100s of the exact same video.
@@RepairGeek for sure. And i appreciate the efforts put into all of it. Being there is only few videos, it makes the new ones even more exciting lol
Im honestly surprised u liked my comment...i didnt think u'd like the Zuckerberg comparison lol. I meant is as a compliment...i like the facts, no fluff
@@Papi4l2 lol I've been called a lot worse 😅. No worries I know what you were trying to say lol
I use fluid film and its a charm. I do two undercoats a year. One before salt and one after. I live in Nova Scotia Canada and am 300ft from the coast. This place kills all steal cars are generaly only 5 years os so. My taco is 10 and no rust whatsoever. Also heat the fluid film before spreying.
I warm the gallon jug in front of a wood stove. Not too close of course and stir. You can see the consistency change to more liquid
A simple male-to-male coupler to connect the two male ends would be very easy to implement.
Thank you for your evaluation of this product. I also live in Streetsboro Ohio not far from you and own a 2011 2500HD Silverado. She had been partially oils sprayed in the past but after multiple car washes its all getting washed away leaving a rusty frame. This product just might be what I need.
Hey It’s another great product. I’m using Woolwax,Fluid Film inside enclosed areas like wheel well arches, rocker panels between metal not exposed directly to the elements. I might even use this product in inner cavity. I have also starting using a salt eliminator . Excellent video tutorial
Wool wax is the best
I just used 2 cases to do a 2019 GMC 4 door utility bed and i love the way it looks! It smells way better than fluid film also! This is the best you are right!
I still prefer the cosmoline-like products from Amsoil or CRC. Resists water, doesn't leave a surface that attracts dirt, easy to apply.
I just placed an order for 6 cans of Surface Shield, the pack of two spray can handle adapters, the wool wax cavity hose/wand, and the package of the male-to-male spray can converter caps. I can't wait to try this. I had my 2015 Silverado coated twice since November 2020 with Fluid Film. but the shop where it was done closed so now I need to touch my truck up myself. I hope that Fluid Film and Surface Shield are compatible.
I was raised in Akron and rusted cars were a given back in the 50s and 60 s
Thanks for your video
You could always do the drivers side in Blaster and the passenger side with the remaining products you have. That way it could be done and in use by the time winter rolls around.
Always love some good, truthful, analysis on products. Thanks for posting
Thanks for this video. I've been using the CRC Heavy Duty Corrosion Inhibitor (because of your previous videos), but this will probably be a little better and cheaper once it's available in bulk.
I live close to Youngstown Ohio and I have been using fluid film for 18 yrs with good results.
Watched your video 8 months ago and was finally able to find Surface Shield earlier this year. I treated the inside of my Toyota’s frame and it’s been great so far. The only grip I can come up with is, when it’s hot the stuff softens enough that it drips from the frame drain holes onto the ground. I’ll be coating some of the external bits when it cools off in the fall.
I use oil and it does the same thing for a few days.I think they use petro jelly in that and it melts.
Dude, thank you for the videos! I am moving to the Midwest next week for the first time ever. I have always lived down south or west coast so I know nothing about these coatings but wanted to learn as much as possible. The part I am sad about is that I have always been proud of my clean undercarriages and engine bays. Looks like you just need to let years of gunk build up for better protection, well here goes.. This should be interesting because I have a near mint condition 2008 Tundra and a brand new 2021 Forester with under 1000 miles. Your videos have encouraged me to do this and I believe I'll give Blaster a shot at it if I can find it in KC. I don't know though, not being able to use an attachment could push me towards fluid film, I'll try to update you, thanks!
Whatever you do, make sure you do a thorough job. That salt and chlorinated liquid can get in all the nooks and crannies you miss. And there are a LOT of nooks and crannies. Pay special attention to brake lines, fuel lines, fuel tank straps, and pull any plastic body plugs in doors or under panels and spray in there. Spray above the spare tire on your truck. Inside frame rails. Inside the tailgate. Behind the tail lights, all the door latches too. Get inside the panels of the bed as good as you can. Spray the wheel wells. Inside the fenders too. A rust free vehicle in the salt belt is like a unicorn. If you coat it really good though, you can keep it that way.
Hey man, I live in KC too, were you able to find it locally?
@@ReidEvers I know you can order cans and even buckets of it from auto parts stores like O'reillys. That way you don't even have to pay shipping. Just have them look it up and order some for you.
@@ReidEvers Found Fluid Film yesterday at Advance, think I’m going to settle for that. I was surprised not a lot of people at parts stores and hardware stores knew what I was talking about. Most people thought I was looking for bedliner sprays..
@@jfque5044 Thanks. That's frustrating.
Wow, I didn’t see this coming. I’ll check it out when it comes in a 5 gallon bucket. This is actually exciting.
Great video. I recently used their silicone spray for maintenance on an Arizona residence that gets the brunt of heat, dust etc. Various door hinges, locks, blinds, window and patio door tracks etc. I had another brand but I liked the Blaster product better as it worked very well. Cautious optimism this workes just as well.
Looks like good product. Like ur extended mud flaps too. Undercoating years ago got hard cracked held in water. That looks good for rustproofing. Before vechial ever sees a winter.
Guy I live in Seneca County and found a excellent undercoating and you will be shocked, it is Roof Patch. costs about $20 a gallon and you can get a undercoat spray gun either on line or use a TSC hand spot sand blaster. As you were talking about creep even though Roof Patch is kinda thick it takes about day for it to set-up if you thin it out and trust me it will creep. About a day or so later you have it marking the floor. So far it works for me so I am going to stick with it.
Thanks for this video. I'm bringing a rust free truck home to Akron and I've been looking for a DIY rustproofing to put on it before winter. The salt here in Akron is brutal.
I've used Rustoleum's Rust Reformer on rusted and non- rusted surfaces. It actually lasted and it looks like black paint.
How long did it last? I recently used a good amount of it on my very rusted 01 Jeep Grand Cherokee and I’d like the vehicle to last a lot longer.
@@burnedtoast8151 it lasted pretty long, I first discovered it when I didnt have actual paint for my rusty gym equipment, took it apart and was supposed to put back together, but I procrastinated. 2 months later I finally did and I had to touch up a few spots and I used every since on anything. It still doesnt have paint on it just the rust- reformer
I used a rust reformer on my steel wheels on my vw. It was quite rusted. I just wire brushed it, used the rust reformer and let it dry, then painted it black. I'm surprised the wheels dont have rust yet after maybe 7 years. I like this better than the annual application of the stuff.
07 Camry, no large amount of rust so far. They must be doing something right.
I live in Northwood Ohio, I just bought my first couple cans of Surface Shield, thanks to your channel.
I wool waxed my 1995 f150 two years ago and it's still there. I run it through the car wash that has undercarriage high pressure wash and it hasn't taken it off. I've gotten it in my skin when working on the truck and it takes a bunch of Dawn detergent to wash it off.
With this new stuff being lanolin based, I imagine it is fine to spray it on top of the wool wax
Might not be as easy to use as the cavity attachment, but you can use the WD-40 spray nozzles with the red straw attached. You could probably even rig it with a extension to make it easier.
I've been trying to decide what to use to protect the bottom of my mower deck. Ground off all rust to clean metal. #1 Any old paint,#2 Epoxy paint,#3 Fiberglass resin, #4 A rust inhibiter AKA Surface Shield. Most paint supposedly will only last a couple of years, the grass is that abrasive, so if I will need to re-paint every couple years maybe Surface Shield is the way to go. What do you think?
I have always used EZ-Slide graphite paint on my mower decks. It is slick and helps keep the grass from sticking. It needs applied once a year though.
I don't know what happened to PB Blaster some 10 years ago, but the penitrating spray used to be the best and now is about on par with WD-40. I still have one of there old cans and tested it last year, still works amazing. Had to stop using it, but this looks to be promising of the company i used to know. Definitely picking up a can of Surface Shield next time I'm at the big box store
Yeah, I absolutely would not trust this stuff because PB Blaster has gone downhill to such an extent that even WD-40 managed to beat PD Blaster in Project Farm's "Which Penetrating Oil is Best" testing video. Given that Repair Geek was sponsored by PB Blaster to make this video, I would not trust what I see here either. I'll wait until Project Farm does testing with this stuff before I can believe it. Until then, I'll keep using Fluid Film.
@@SergeantExtreme it doesn't stake a genius to strap some scrap metal on a telephone pole out by the road... If you think I'm full of it, it's not exactly hard to run that test.
@@RepairGeek At the same time, this is why you don't take sponsorships, then recommend said sponsor's product over their competitors. Even if you are correct in your assessment, it looks extremely suspect.
@@SergeantExtreme He disclosed & we all have to make our own decision
@@SergeantExtremeyeah this really feels like just an advertisement
Good to know. It's a lot cheaper than fluid film! 👍👍👍
PB Blaster products are no joke. I bought a 120yr old coal burning parlor heater that was in this lady’s family since new. I need to remove the cast iron sides to have them soda blasted. The bolts were large flat heads and the nuts were large hex heads. I soaked every nut and bolt on that heater with their penetrating lube, I tried the usual WD 40 etc. used PB Blaster, let soak for a day and was able to removed every nut and bolt from the heater except one that was located next to the belly of the furnace where the coal went, hottest part of the stove. Never would have guessed that the product would worked so well been using it ever since!
"Internal cavities, that is a big deal!!!!!"
Good! I'm glad Amazon doesn't have it. I wish people would quit pushing Amazon on us.
This is great! Unfortunately Blaster won't have this available in Canada it seems, at least not yet. Which is a damn shame.
Don't you Canucks already have Krown Rust Control? They even sell it by the liter, what more could you want?
Just bought a 2022 Kubota L2501 and want it to stay nice forever- ordered 4 cans from HD just now. Thank you for doing the research and testing! Helped me decide what to do. Jason
Thank you for the testing. I generally have been keeping my undercarriage on my 2011 Tundra 4WD rust free with Eastwood Chassis Black.. get under and touch up usually each year. But I do have a can of the Blaster, and was planning to use it where it makes sense.
You are doing a great job with those tests, I have a question for you how to treat a area where the rust is really advanced ?
Wire brush then treat as normal.Ive used TCW3 two stroke oil mixed with a splash of kero and that stuff will eventually clean the old rust off down to a better surface.But you have to keep after it.
It’s nearly twice the price of Fluid Film so you best get twice the coverage term. Being thinner isn’t necessarily a good thing. Yes it’ll spray and creep better but that usually means it’ll wash away easier than anything with more “build” to it. Not totally convinced. Sticking with Fluid Film Black for the time being.
I'm from Akron too... it's rough out here...🤷♂️
From Canada. Decades ago started with Rust Chek the switched to Krown, both oil sprays. They worked well in panels but due to their almost watery texture, the under side would come off after driving on wet roads. A few years ago I switched to Corrosion free (cans are available at Canadian Tire sold as Rust Cure and also dealers of Corrosion Free can spray them) which is a bit thicker than Rust Chek and Krown. Corrosion Free stops dripping during application. Recommended to apply Corrosion free in warmer months to ensure it creeps to the bottom off panels. It’s been doing very well so far and not washing off the underside. Maybe it’s similar to Blaster Surface shield?
Woolwax has a really thick product they call HV wheel well grease. It's pretty hard to wash it off with pressure washer.
I coat my cars (whole undercarriage) with it using brush. If I need it to get it into cavities I just delute it with any kind of mineral spirits, rubbing alcohol or wax degreeser then spray.
It's the kind of long lasting treatment which you definitely don't have to renew every year or even two.
It would be really interesting to see this product tested too.
Hey thanks for doing all this valuable research. I’ve been using rust check and krown with good results but newer vehicles are rust resistant coated from the factory better than they used to be. I haven’t kept a vehicle long enough to prove they actually work but the exposed parts on the underbody are mostly missing any undercoating after a winter. I’m thinking surface shield may be the answer for best all around coverage. Just wondering what your thoughts are with using it bulk with a pressurized 1 liter undercoating gun rather than the air / siphon type sprayer. Wouldn’t that make less air borne when spraying?
Interesting! I would like to purchase some of this amazing new product, where in Canada will this be available? I am sure Canadian Tire in Canada would love to offer this product to its customers.
Hey Andrew Thanks for bringing this to our attention. It’s good you advised Blaster management of extension hose issue. Maybe it can be mixed with Woolwax or Fluid Film ? I’m going to pickup some cans and a 5 gallon bucket when I can get it. Keep us updated Excellent video
Why dilute an awesome product with a less awesome product?
a 5 gallon will cost you at least $500+ let us know when you buy it because i doubt it
I believe the spray can version of any product of this type substance is partially diluted in a way to help it properly spray out of can without getting clogged. Slight dilution will help everyone using a smaller air compressor. That’s all
Thanks for this. In WV trying to spare 2 cars because of the area and I live right next to water. Never done undercoat before but will be going ham during my 6m maintenance
I enjoy your rust protection reviews / videos and you're doing a Great job but let me tell you about CRC Extreme Duty Open Gear and Chain Lube which is the very best rust protection and is commonly used in industrial applications but works fantastic on rusty vehicle undercarriage. Try it.
I'm a little cautious when it's a paid advertisement, but I do love pb blaster, so I'm willing to give it a shot, it would be nice if that aerosol can could accommodate the 360° spray nozzle, I hope that's changed befor I use fluid film on the inside of my frame ( I have a bran new 2021 4runner) that hasn't seen a winter yet and I'd love to do a long term test on using only pb blasters product
You have to remember, I was honest enough to tell you that it was a paid video and I also explained why. It would have been very easy for me to not mention any of that and keep my audience in the dark. I've always been very honest with my audience and that hasn't changed. The product works.
Why it's not available yet?
@@RepairGeekyou are required by TH-cam to label the video a paid advertisement so saying it means nothing. Beyond obvious they paid you off to do this. On top of that you bashed the other products you showed. A product should stand on it’s own, hopefully Fluid Film gets their attorneys on this false representation. The bucket you showed was an old half dried out pail of Fluid Film versus a fresh pail Blaster gave you specifically for this commercial.
Thanks for the in depth videos! How is this as a penatrant? Does it soak into and slow down existing rust?
Can you spray this on surfaces that are already rusty to help prevent additional rust?
I find myself watching lots of your videos. I live near the ocean. Fog carries the salt everywhere, even stainless screws etc. corrode out here. I torture test some items on my Bike that I ride along the ocean shore. I often cover bolt and screw threads with lithium grease because it is easy . Maybe marine grease would be better? For extreme use I wrap teflon tape on threads before assembly. It helps keep bolt threads from locking into the nuts.(BTDT) . Anyway your tests have applications outside of your narrow range of preferred use.
Yes! I purchased this product some years back and it really is the best!
I’m pretty interested in surface shield but am wondering if you’re currently doing a long term test on it now? I’m a bit skeptical to buy until I see you do your long term test and post results. It’s easy to claim they’re the best based on the consistency and ease of application due to said consistency but I want to see the results. I will be waiting for an update video come spring time!
I can tell you if it sprays on like Fluid Film or Woolwax it’s a winner. I sprayed my truck with Woolwax and it still looks new
Ohhhh man looks like I'll be using this stuff. These NE Ohio winters are a pain
New Jersey winters also...
Hmm going to have to give this stuff a try. With the price of cars now I need mine and the wifes to last as long as possible.
Great insight and I plan on buying this product since I own 4 vehicles, I don't live in the North where salt is used to rid of ice, but live in the south and I want peace of mind knowing my vehicle's are protected, Thanks for a great video