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Facebook error msg, "The content is not available now" Hoping to find someone to spray my truck with this . Seems like it could be a profitable business. I don't have the equipment or lift. Difficult to get inside frame with a can.
Well Andrew, this video should be telling us is that the history of your channel is as sound as ever imagined! I believe that you deserve at least 9.5 out of 10 thumbs up from every subscriber, As for the other morons, nay-sayers and jack@$$es that still wish to deny you a hay day and talk a bunch of smack, they deserve what is coming to them and that is a crushing blow to their ego's!!! Keep on a trucking Andrew! you'll make it! It might take another 6 years, but cling to your beliefs and you should make it to the big time!
where I'm at the gravel roads are constantly sprayed with salt brine - so it all depends on if you drive on gravel as the dust is a salt dust!! Of course that has to be washed off immediately. I didn't know this - and also the INSIDE of the chassis HAS to be sprayed out. Again I didn't know this. I was using Cosmoline wax before but it didn't seem to last through the car washes and winter well. I now switched to epoxy paint - and I still use 80% phosphoric acid spray to convert any rust I find, after scraping it. I got a chassis repair kit welded onto one side of the chassis where the exhaust heat really multiplied the salt damage, putting a hole in above a support triangle. I had a weld patch put on the driver's side chassis (right in the center) where the opposite car spray hits - that was about five years ago. Then I have pop riveted the lower part of the trunk and the lower part of one of the rear doors - with DIY sheet metal flue caps - and I used polyurethane spray and JB weld also. hahaha. Hopefully if the chassis survives this winter then I'll be at 300K on the chassis!! It seems to be holding up well - I really like the epoxy paint but the Home Improvement store only has epoxy spray paint sold for appliances!! hahaha. That epoxy paint really creates a strong porcelain layer to keep out salt water. The two local mechanics refused to work on the chassis soon after I discovered the gravel road salt brine had eaten up the frame. That was three years ago - and since then I had new suspension put in, brake pads put in, other parts and a remans transmission with new cooler lines - along with the chassis repair kit welded in. Wow this was my dad's last car that he called "my truck" due to the chassis frame - but he left me a rust-welded in trailer hitch! I didn't even know that was possible but I got a big huge chisel and got it out finally!! Now I can pull trailers as well. I need to spray that with more phosphoric acid and enamel paint - in this last week before winter kicks in.
I have some of the KBS exhaust manifold primer and exhaust manifold paint in the charcoal metallic... I haven't used it yet but I bet it's good stuff... Eastwood also makes black muffler paint that id like to give a try on the cat back sections of exhaust... Other than these, any ceramic paint that's made for headers in the black blue or silver I'd highly recommend... The Rustoleum 1200° Grill paint that comes in Flat black, gloss black, or in silver would be another great option (have these too just haven't been able to use them yet)
My wife's car has three coats & my truck has two. As vehicles become more and more unaffordable it's silly to not protect them. I've said it for years, that the mileage on a vehicle isn't as large a threat to longevity as corrosion . Especially in upstate NY where I live. Also, it's a good idea to lower the spare every year & clean the salt and gravel off. By the end of winter there's always a pile of it laying on the top of the rim.
Just to be clear, if you keep making these update videos, I (and many others) will keep watching them. I know you've proven that it works, but there's value in having a consistent record of something, and that's just not easily duplicated. I look forward to seeing what years 10, 15, 20 etc. look like.
A Finn here with a 20-year old Suzuki watching your videos getting tips for fighting rust. Graduated as a machinist but been working in industrial maintenance as a tech from basically 2011 and as I mostly just drive my cars, I work on them as somewhat kind of a hobby. The conditions here in southern Finland are similar with road salt so this is very informative and interesting content.
I think you should still do a quick update on both trucks when you inspect them before winter. It can even be a 5 minute video. "Lanolin coating after 10 years" would be a cool quick view.
Keep making your yearly update videos. By showing your vehicle is staying good, you are making your point to many, many new viewers. It's OK to take an annual victory lap. Who cares about being believed? This will be my 3rd year spraying Woolwax myself on my cars thanks to you. I have the best looking 1999 Suburban in Western NY. :D
Yeah, you make a good point. I've been watching his videos since he started and I'm in Canada where undercoating come up nine conversation more than you would think and I alwase direct people to the first video where he does the coating, then the most recent video to show how its lasted.
I bought bucket of lanolin from farmers for next to nothing, mixed it with sunflower oil and sprayed it. Two years later it holds up just fine. Only in summer dogs are sniffing up around the car 😅.
2014 f150 125,000km sprayed every year since new. Zero rust and i live in the northern rust belt. Friends whom own same truck are all rusting out. Worth every penny
The best part is that really anyone can do this. It's not cost prohibitive. Just need to be willing to put in the work. Even without a lift, getting into the cavities the best you can will do wonders over doing nothing. Don't need to be afraid to do it just because you can't do it perfectly.
My vehicle had its 10th spray this year. I would hate to open my rocker panels and see how much Fluid Film is inside but it makes me feel better adding to it once a year.
Thanks for the update! I Surface Shield and Fluid Filmed my 2015 Lexus RC 350 over the past few years. This past summer when I brought it to the dealer for a NY State inspection the service manager was trying to tell me there were several fluid leaks under my car ! ! ! I explained what was done and he shook his head and still thought there was something wrong. If you can take your time and get into the inner door and fender panels I think you've got a vehicle body and frame that should outlast the motor. MANY years ago after going to college way north in upstate NY my beloved new Corolla rusted out in 3 years. Ever since I've been a huge proponent of putting rust preventative coatings (NOT roofing tar) on my cars!
I do the same for my suv's every year after seeing your videos. A bit of advice, after spraying the fluid film or whatever rust product, drive on a dusty road for a few miles. The dust will "bind" the product to the vehicle undercarriage and will stick real well. Also, during winter months and snow/ice accumulation, do not wash the undercarriage. Just wash the car body and call it good.
Thank you for all the content. You helped me so much with undercoating my truck - from the spray gun I used to Blaster Surface Shield tinted with graphite. The knowledge you shared and the dedication to real world tests and applications were on a “Project Farm” level. Kudos and thank you again.
I like the fact you shoot a follow up every year!! Thank you for being open and honest. I don't need to know where you live. I just enjoy learning from and with you! Thanks to you, I have discovered Fluid Film and Surface Shield. I agree... I have been spraying my 2019 Honda Passport every season. I just now will just "touch up" as needed. Thanks again for your video's!! Excellent!!
Love it. Proof right here. I’m still on fluid film(get it at work). On my 15 crv. Harsh winters. Same results myself. Awesome man !!!!! Great video as always
@@jafethgarcia4819 I have no issues other than it being a dirt magnet BUT I feel that the dirt that gets attracted helps it stick better. But 9 years in northern Ohio with tons of salt. NO rust at all.
@@NRP1991 Yeah I’ll take dirt over rust or an expensive rust repair ANY DAY!! Haha. Yeah I’m right next to Ohio so I know the salt and all that is horrid for our cars. Good to hear you haven’t had any wiring or rubber issues so far though.
I’ve been waiting for your update. My wife has a 17 Highlander that I’ve done every year as well. Not as many miles as your dads but it’s holding up great. Like you said you get to a point where it almost doesn’t matter if you reapply because that layer of protection is there. Thanks for keeping us updated.
I think from many comments that people have left is that you should continue to make updates videos of your Dad’s and your truck it think it a good way to show how good rustproofing a vehicle in salty road conditions I think most people believe you it’s just cool to see .
Our maker space now does an annual undercoating weekend using your videos to help guide folks in taking care of their cars. Thanks for all the help and documentation. Pretty clear this works and any further videos on lanolin aren't needed. The only thing of interest would be to show cars with various coatings over the years, that'd be exhausting to do.
Thanks for the information I have been watching your videos for the last 6 years and use the products and enjoy your videos. Please keep updating your truck yearly, I am an engineer and love seeing the details you describe in your videos. I enjoy your humor and logic. I hope you and your family enjoy the holiday season!!!!
Nice timing!! I just got done putting on my second winter coat of surface shield on the 22 Tacoma. Used two quarts but it's on the heavy side. Some rust was found but that's just where I missed spraying. So thank you for taking the time to make the great vids!!
@@kenj.8897 paying the shop extra you could probably ask to rustproof the interior of the doors. And the fender liners also. I've tried with jackstands many times, simply unable to achieve quality DIY. Some jobs it's just better to pay to achieve quality results lol.
Just got done doing an undercoating for the first time with WoolWax. I greatly appreciate all the videos you've made regarding products and the process. I'm excited to see how it did come Spring time
Just bought some Blaster Surface Shield yesterday based on your recommendation. I’ll put it on this week, heading into our first snowstorm this weekend!
Your channel is one of my top 3 favourites, and I've discovered it by searching for Fluid Film years ago, and U convinced me. No rust on my cars ever since, not even here in Norway, the 'nordic rust belt'. Tnx. 🙂
Pb blaster is great stuff 👏 I did my new ram in 2021 with pb blaster and just did a second coat in September of 2023 my truck looks brand new no rust for me 🛻👍😊
Yearly updates are still welcome!!! You don't need to make even a 10min video, but as these vehicles both age, this will become more and more important and impressive. If you own either of these over 10yrs, this will be the best testimony to using any of these products.
😎 The lore behind the Legendary Repair Geek. I'll recommend my friends (that care about their cars) your playlist because we live in NJ and Surface Shield all the way.
Great to see your channel doing so well! I always recommend your videos to people up here (about 1 hour north-east of you) who have no idea about coating cars on these salt-ridden roads. I'll be sending this to friends and clients tonight, actually! Keep it up and take care!
I found this fascinating and informative. I'm in Portland, OR. They haven't, historically, salted the roads (though I think they've done a bit of that in last couple years due to ice storms). So, we don't have the same challenges with rust that the eastern states do. Still, I think it's smart preventative maintenance to use these undercoatings. I plan to use this product -- based on your detailed recommendation, in at least 2 videos -- on my 1988 Volvo 740. I want to keep it on the road as long as possible (since it still has low miles) and I now see that 'under the car' can be as important as the upper sections, for proper maintenance and longevity. Thanks for your great videos!
You've done the car community a huge service with these tests. I had once actually sprayed my winter wheels with a different rust treatment to store them away in the basement for a summer; only to throw half of them away the next winter due to extreme corrosion. They were better off untreated and outside, that experience left me more than a little wary. I've always been a fan of Fluid Film and now know I can trust Blaster along with it. Please do continue with the updates (even if there are no changes).
THANK YOU! I have shared your videos with dozens of people that were unsure about what to do with their undercarriage. Hopefully they became some of your 100k subs.
Congratulations. You deserve it. Im sure you have saved a lot of cars in the rust belt. I just got a new car and was looking for protection in illinois, and im happy i found your content. Thank you and best to you
Thanks man! I bought a used 2018 Ford f150, the first thing I did was check the frame and body, it looked really clean and free of rust. This year, because of your channel, I sanded all the rust spots on the frame and sprayed it with surface shield! Thanks for all the info and advice!
I started using surface shield 2 years ago and your spot on I'm not getting any surface rust or decay on both of my vehicles. Thanks for the great videos I really appreciate your insight.
Because of you, I’ve surfaced shield my ‘16 ram which had plenty of rust and my brand new ‘23 GX. I spent 4 hours on former and 6 hours on the later most of the time spraying inside of the frame. Thank you for helping me extend the life of my vehicle.
I love to see father and son. Every thing about you and everything you know plus the way you think is because of your papa❤ great video!!!! You guys are going to save me money and prolong my truck. No corn fields.😂
Thank you for you taking the trouble to inform us of the products available to conserve our vehicles in a hostile environment. It hasn;t fallen on deaf ears. I will spread the good news of body/car conservation.
Thanks Andrew AKA Repair Geek, Just put my first coat of surface shield on my new/old 2016 Nissan Frontier. when purchased it was a southern vehicle with very little rust here and there and I'm looking forward to driving this for a long time. I should tell you I also live in the rust belt close to the center of Wisconsin. Most of my vehicles have suffered death by rust, that happens when your tire store will no longer lift your car up do to safety issues! With Blaster in hand I hope to prevent that forever!
My 2014 Silverado has been sprayed with fluid film since new 148k miles. No rust so far in Northwest Pennsylvania winter's. Definitely stand behind this product.
Awesome to see the long term. I applied surface shield to my Sierra after seeing your tests. I reapplied each year but it's nice to know I don't have to if I take care of it and inspect as needed. Great content as always 👍
Great footage! If the stuff is on it don’t rust! Guys that say it still rusts! It’s from missing spots or not touching it up! It has destroyed some rubber on my vehicles but I’ll take that over rot any day
I ordered a 2016 Ford Fusion Energi (the plugin hybrid) straight from the factory. I picked it up with 0.2 miles on it. When I got it home, I put fluid film on it. Just used the spray cans and extension nozzle. Touched it up every year since. 2 years ago, I switched to Surface Shield as well. Now, it has almost 250,000 miles on it driving in southwestern PA so tons of salt and lots of miles. There is no rust on it. Anywhere. I take it to the dealership I ordered it from for tires and inspections and they do oil changes on it. They are so amazed, during their upcoming remodel, they are installing a bay just to apply surface shield. They do my oil changes for free now since I agreed to let them film my car (to sell the undercoating to other people) since it is so pristine. They are curious to see how long the car will actually last. The ONLY mechanical repair that has ever been done on my car is just installed new rear shocks (the upper mounts were rattling - the bushing was worn out). I also replaced the lugnuts (the infamous Ford chrome capped ones that swell) with solid steel ones. That is the end of the list. Other than that, just been new tires, brakes once (regenerative braking means very little brake wear), and oil and fluid changes. Without a doubt, if you live in the northeast and have to deal with salt and corrosion, you MUST use one of these products.
I did Fluid Film one year and then switched to Surface Shield. It is thinner when applied and crawl and creeps deeper and it just feels really doing something. And, I live in Fairlawn, Ohio, and Blaster Surface Shield is made next door in Akron, Ohio, the Vatican of Goodyear and Firestone, that city has automotive DNA. Fluid Film was good I guess, like pig fat lard with a hint of basil and vanilla. Yet, Surface Shield is good lanolin and lasts longer, grabs better and is a light caramel color. And, Harbor Freight sells it for only $9.99. Four years so far and is still brand new. I do the aerosol and got an extension nozzle for aerosol cans with a multi directional tip that I can use inside doors and crevices. Only $8 in Amazon.
I used surface shield on my 2005 Frontier after repairing some rot on cab corners and descaling and the frame has stopped rusting which is good. I've owned it 2.5 going on 3 years and its so much better shape than it was before. 2 more years of use and i'll sell it. Shout out to Eric O and Mrs. O from south main auto, his channel is awesome
I do the undercoating myself, the outside is important put if you can remove bumpers and plastic it's even better. I also removed some trim on the inside to get in between the steel sheet. I do the same now just spray where the wheel splash water and where it's scrapped, i'm at 5 years of coating. Mine swell rubber in the bottom of the doors seal sadly, to avoid that spray some silicon wher it may contact the undercoating.
Thanks for your story - awesome! Since I found you, I've appreciated your honest and agnostic approach. I'm thankful I've never lived in a snowy environment at the same time.
I've been putting this stuff under a 20+ year old Toyota truck for a few years now. I wish I'd done it sooner. It's definitely working. New trucks are outrageously expensive.
I've no doubt that this approach works and may even be preferable for certain situations, but in my case I nearly completely derusted the rear end of my car nearly a year and a half ago, taking literally everything off and going at it with a die grinder and various chemicals, cleaned and degreased everything thoroughly, prepped it with zinc oxide & phosphoric acid solution, and applied POR-15, and so far basically no rust, no peeling, and everything looks like the day I finished it. Of course only time will tell, but I do live and drive in the NE, a very wet and corrosive place where rust thrives, and a year and a half is not that long. Plus, it required a pretty intense effort to get it done and done right, and not everyone has the time, inclination, tools and skills to do this. I was looking to restore an old car that was still basically solid but had a lot of neglect that needed a lot of work, that I hope to keep and enjoy for years to come, and not to protect a newer model car that was in much better shape. It's really a matter of one's specific situation and priorities.
16:15 you're the best bro, you deserve it! Your content is top quality and you help people. -From a french canadian that lost his last car due to rust😂
Great video showing the value of lanoline undercoating. I bought a new 2023 4runner in spring and did a heavy coat this summer. Might do every 2 years and the this truck should last my lifetime where i live (East Tennessee).
After watching your videos I decided to coat my new f150 in CRC last April. So far it has worked great! There are areas that get road wash that are starting to show some wear. Would you recommend cleaning up the minimal rust and re-coating with CRC or coating over the existing CRC and rust with fluid film?
Hey man I work with your cousin Pat at the fire department. He recommended your channel and Im glad he did! I spray my 4runner every year with a gallon of fluid film. Love the stuff! Looking good man!
Hey, thanks for the video. I have applied fluid film to both mine and my wife’s cars and am happy so far. One thing that might be helpful for me would be clear information on how the non visible parts of the vehicle are constructed, like the inside of the rocker panels, the doors, the pillars, the fenders, etc. I would like to do a thorough job, but I also don’t want to accidentally stick the wand into the wrong hole and coat part of the interior
Since i got my 2014 chevy 1500 it had surface rust and i have used the rustoleum rubber undercoating and it just rusted through that anyway. I have been researching for awhile what i can do to make it stop and i think i may have found the solution, hopefully i can save my truck from rusting away 😂 thank you
Fluid Film/Woolwax would wash off after a couple of weeks for me. Last year, I skipped the all lanolin products, including the Blaster Surface Shield and went right to Cosmoline's wax coating, RP-342. The wax coating lasted the entire Winter and some is still there, today.
You must not be putting it on heavy enough. He stated it takes time to build a layer that doesn't wash or wear off. I put some on my sister's 2005 Chevy with heavy rust on the suspension components 2 years ago and just checked it a month ago and most of it is still on there and where it didn't stick is where I did not get all the rust chunks off. I just recoated it again after cleaning more rust off. I will probably have to do this two or three more times until it no longer has loose rust or the car is in the boneyard. It may not last as long as most but long enough until the driveline components are worn out. My 97 Ford f150 frame is cheese whiz mainly because I did not drive it much and usually only during winter in the storms. I wish I had known about this stuff 15 years ago when I bought it used.
I owned a 2001 Ford Super Duty that I sold (a local landscaper begged me to sell it to them) that I undercoated every year. It had NO rust when I sold it. The first few years I used chainsaw bar oil. After that, I used a lanolin-based product.
Your video's have been great, I watched all on the undercoats and started applying lanoguard on my 2014 jeep grand Cherokee wk2 this year as at 9 years old the factory undercoat was starting to get service rust. The lanoguard is a lanolin and the best i could find in the UK its great stuff. So big thanks as without all your hard work would have ended up with waxoly
Actually, I do have one question - that you might have covered previously (if so, sorry) - but if you were to apply these coatings to a car that already has say, 175k miles on it, how would you go about cleaning and preparing the underbody? My roommate has a 2007 Honda Accord that I think she bought in Arizona, but now lives on the eastern coast of Michigan. I just changed all the fluids last week, and have been trying to do all the little maintenance that has been neglected on it (basically everything due between 160k-180k, including a new accessory belt and tensioner later today once the sun is up), because it overall seems like it's still a solid platform, even if some of the cosmetic things are a bit rough (in which, I need to figure out how to handle paint correction, but I'm really hesitant about doing any sort of body work like that - my expertise is the mechanical side, not so much the delicate 'art' side). Just a bit of very minor rust as far as I've seen, and I'd like to keep it that way for her sake (and mine, if ever I end up purchasing it from her, lol). So, considering it's starting to get cold and wet, I'm curious if I can do anything to prep it for this upcoming season.
My dad always said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." His cars always looked like hell and ran badly. My uncle always said, "Spend a penny, save a pound." My dad was wrong. Spend the penny. Take care of your cars. I hit my truck's twigs and berries with a lanolin spray every two years. It smells like taint for a week, but it really works.
Pretty cool to hear your background. Thanks for sharing. I remember GM and Jeep/Chrysler/RAM/Dodge pulling out of a lot of dealers when I lived in Western WA. Some of the businesses survived and became used car lots, with cast-offs (auction purchased vehicles) that other dealers didn't want. I remember your lift unboxing and setup video years ago. I still have the 2017 Colorado Duramax that I've mentioned in previous comments. I have some Surface Shield in aerosol cans that I bought when it first became available, but I still haven't used it on my truck yet. I need to spray it so I can drive it in the winter. So far, it still stays parked most of the winter and only gets driven on dry weather days.
Great follow-up! Did you ever get Surface Shield to change the nozzle on the spray can or come out with their own long straw hose accesoriy for it ?? I ended up getting a couple cans of Fluid film and the long-straw adapter ( after undercoating with surface shield) to get into the small holes I could not access with the gun . I would have preferred to use surface shield as it smell a lot less. So did what I had to! Thanks again for all your tips and tests. Still following and will !
I usually spray used transmission fluid in a Wagner paint sprayer and let the car sit for a couple weeks on cardboard I used to do that with my Dodge neon It did work! Love your videos
I see a lot of old pickups down near the gulf covered in flaky rust the only ones that clean are the ones who’ve had an oil leak they never got fixed just topped off every week 😂 would def make sense that coving the frame in oil keeps it from rusting
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Facebook error msg, "The content is not available now" Hoping to find someone to spray my truck with this . Seems like it could be a profitable business. I don't have the equipment or lift. Difficult to get inside frame with a can.
@@johnreese8278 Should be fixed now, give it a try an let me know please. The revision works fine for me now.
Well Andrew, this video should be telling us is that the history of your channel is as sound as ever imagined! I believe
that you deserve at least 9.5 out of 10 thumbs up from every subscriber, As for the other morons, nay-sayers and
jack@$$es that still wish to deny you a hay day and talk a bunch of smack, they deserve what is coming to them
and that is a crushing blow to their ego's!!! Keep on a trucking Andrew! you'll make it! It might take another 6 years,
but cling to your beliefs and you should make it to the big time!
where I'm at the gravel roads are constantly sprayed with salt brine - so it all depends on if you drive on gravel as the dust is a salt dust!! Of course that has to be washed off immediately. I didn't know this - and also the INSIDE of the chassis HAS to be sprayed out. Again I didn't know this.
I was using Cosmoline wax before but it didn't seem to last through the car washes and winter well. I now switched to epoxy paint - and I still use 80% phosphoric acid spray to convert any rust I find, after scraping it.
I got a chassis repair kit welded onto one side of the chassis where the exhaust heat really multiplied the salt damage, putting a hole in above a support triangle.
I had a weld patch put on the driver's side chassis (right in the center) where the opposite car spray hits - that was about five years ago.
Then I have pop riveted the lower part of the trunk and the lower part of one of the rear doors - with DIY sheet metal flue caps - and I used polyurethane spray and JB weld also. hahaha.
Hopefully if the chassis survives this winter then I'll be at 300K on the chassis!! It seems to be holding up well - I really like the epoxy paint but the Home Improvement store only has epoxy spray paint sold for appliances!! hahaha. That epoxy paint really creates a strong porcelain layer to keep out salt water.
The two local mechanics refused to work on the chassis soon after I discovered the gravel road salt brine had eaten up the frame. That was three years ago - and since then I had new suspension put in, brake pads put in, other parts and a remans transmission with new cooler lines - along with the chassis repair kit welded in.
Wow this was my dad's last car that he called "my truck" due to the chassis frame - but he left me a rust-welded in trailer hitch! I didn't even know that was possible but I got a big huge chisel and got it out finally!! Now I can pull trailers as well. I need to spray that with more phosphoric acid and enamel paint - in this last week before winter kicks in.
I have some of the KBS exhaust manifold primer and exhaust manifold paint in the charcoal metallic... I haven't used it yet but I bet it's good stuff... Eastwood also makes black muffler paint that id like to give a try on the cat back sections of exhaust... Other than these, any ceramic paint that's made for headers in the black blue or silver I'd highly recommend... The Rustoleum 1200° Grill paint that comes in Flat black, gloss black, or in silver would be another great option (have these too just haven't been able to use them yet)
You deserve the recognition. You have helped a large number of people. Thank you.
My wife's car has three coats & my truck has two. As vehicles become more and more unaffordable it's silly to not protect them. I've said it for years, that the mileage on a vehicle isn't as large a threat to longevity as corrosion . Especially in upstate NY where I live. Also, it's a good idea to lower the spare every year & clean the salt and gravel off. By the end of winter there's always a pile of it laying on the top of the rim.
Exactly! I've literally never worn out a vehicle. The rot always takes it before the wear does.
What kind of surface shield is it ? Will plain oil do the same ?
I use fluid film. @@RaduMichael
@@RaduMichael plain oil lifts off the surface with water, definitely not the same
No@@RaduMichael
Fantastic video. Maybe at the 10 year mark you could pressure wash everything off. It would be cool to see how mint everything is.
really good idea!
This is what he should do next year!
What recommendations if any, would you offer for addressing the rust on exhaust system?
Stainless exhaust as replacement. @@Marlow4Faust
Just to be clear, if you keep making these update videos, I (and many others) will keep watching them. I know you've proven that it works, but there's value in having a consistent record of something, and that's just not easily duplicated. I look forward to seeing what years 10, 15, 20 etc. look like.
Agree
Same, I still look forward to this video each year so I hope you change your mind and keep shooting it even though nothing is changing.
this is a 5 minute video turned into a 25 minute video. you dont have anything better to do @mswaffer?
@@buda18 nope.
A Finn here with a 20-year old Suzuki watching your videos getting tips for fighting rust. Graduated as a machinist but been working in industrial maintenance as a tech from basically 2011 and as I mostly just drive my cars, I work on them as somewhat kind of a hobby.
The conditions here in southern Finland are similar with road salt so this is very informative and interesting content.
I think you should still do a quick update on both trucks when you inspect them before winter. It can even be a 5 minute video. "Lanolin coating after 10 years" would be a cool quick view.
+1 for a yearly update, even if they're short!
Keep making your yearly update videos. By showing your vehicle is staying good, you are making your point to many, many new viewers. It's OK to take an annual victory lap. Who cares about being believed? This will be my 3rd year spraying Woolwax myself on my cars thanks to you. I have the best looking 1999 Suburban in Western NY. :D
Yeah, you make a good point. I've been watching his videos since he started and I'm in Canada where undercoating come up nine conversation more than you would think and I alwase direct people to the first video where he does the coating, then the most recent video to show how its lasted.
I bought bucket of lanolin from farmers for next to nothing, mixed it with sunflower oil and sprayed it.
Two years later it holds up just fine.
Only in summer dogs are sniffing up around the car 😅.
2014 f150 125,000km sprayed every year since new. Zero rust and i live in the northern rust belt. Friends whom own same truck are all rusting out. Worth every penny
The best part is that really anyone can do this. It's not cost prohibitive. Just need to be willing to put in the work. Even without a lift, getting into the cavities the best you can will do wonders over doing nothing. Don't need to be afraid to do it just because you can't do it perfectly.
Keep doing update videos as long as he has the truck. You’re the main reason I decided to use Surface Shield. Thanks for the videos!
My vehicle had its 10th spray this year. I would hate to open my rocker panels and see how much Fluid Film is inside but it makes me feel better adding to it once a year.
Why would you hate to see it?
Thanks for the update! I Surface Shield and Fluid Filmed my 2015 Lexus RC 350 over the past few years. This past summer when I brought it to the dealer for a NY State inspection the service manager was trying to tell me there were several fluid leaks under my car ! ! ! I explained what was done and he shook his head and still thought there was something wrong.
If you can take your time and get into the inner door and fender panels I think you've got a vehicle body and frame that should outlast the motor. MANY years ago after going to college way north in upstate NY my beloved new Corolla rusted out in 3 years. Ever since I've been a huge proponent of putting rust preventative coatings (NOT roofing tar) on my cars!
I do the same for my suv's every year after seeing your videos. A bit of advice, after spraying the fluid film or whatever rust product, drive on a dusty road for a few miles. The dust will "bind" the product to the vehicle undercarriage and will stick real well. Also, during winter months and snow/ice accumulation, do not wash the undercarriage. Just wash the car body and call it good.
Thank you for all the content. You helped me so much with undercoating my truck - from the spray gun I used to Blaster Surface Shield tinted with graphite. The knowledge you shared and the dedication to real world tests and applications were on a “Project Farm” level. Kudos and thank you again.
How did you tint it with graphite? Which kit did you use to spray? Did you use A pressure system?
This channel covers all of that. Just watch his videos - and all your questions will be answered.
This is one of the best channels I watch
Smart move putting your personal info deep into a video just for the dedicated watchers. Thanks for your years of helpful videos!
Thanks for doing these. As a southern who moved to the rust belt, you really helped me make the right decision.
I like the fact you shoot a follow up every year!! Thank you for being open and honest. I don't need to know where you live. I just enjoy learning from and with you! Thanks to you, I have discovered Fluid Film and Surface Shield. I agree... I have been spraying my 2019 Honda Passport every season. I just now will just "touch up" as needed. Thanks again for your video's!! Excellent!!
Love it. Proof right here. I’m still on fluid film(get it at work). On my 15 crv. Harsh winters. Same results myself. Awesome man !!!!! Great video as always
How do you see all the rubber components or wires holding up with it on there? Any cons
@@jafethgarcia4819 I have no issues other than it being a dirt magnet BUT I feel that the dirt that gets attracted helps it stick better. But 9 years in northern Ohio with tons of salt. NO rust at all.
@@NRP1991 Yeah I’ll take dirt over rust or an expensive rust repair ANY DAY!! Haha. Yeah I’m right next to Ohio so I know the salt and all that is horrid for our cars. Good to hear you haven’t had any wiring or rubber issues so far though.
Your coated trucks look just as solid as my '18 Canyon that's spent the majority of its life in bone-dry Arizona.
Used to live in southeast michigan. A 7 year old truck is gunna he halfway to the junkyard because of rust. This thing looks pretty good.
I’ve been waiting for your update. My wife has a 17 Highlander that I’ve done every year as well. Not as many miles as your dads but it’s holding up great. Like you said you get to a point where it almost doesn’t matter if you reapply because that layer of protection is there. Thanks for keeping us updated.
I think from many comments that people have left is that you should continue to make updates videos of your Dad’s and your truck it think it a good way to show how good rustproofing a vehicle in salty road conditions I think most people believe you it’s just cool to see .
Our maker space now does an annual undercoating weekend using your videos to help guide folks in taking care of their cars. Thanks for all the help and documentation.
Pretty clear this works and any further videos on lanolin aren't needed. The only thing of interest would be to show cars with various coatings over the years, that'd be exhausting to do.
Thanks for the information I have been watching your videos for the last 6 years and use the products and enjoy your videos. Please keep updating your truck yearly, I am an engineer and love seeing the details you describe in your videos. I enjoy your humor and logic. I hope you and your family enjoy the holiday season!!!!
Which product do you recommend?
Nice timing!! I just got done putting on my second winter coat of surface shield on the 22 Tacoma. Used two quarts but it's on the heavy side. Some rust was found but that's just where I missed spraying. So thank you for taking the time to make the great vids!!
Just pay the auto shop to apply it. DIY doesn't apply to rust proofing especially by using jack stands. The vehicle benefits with a professional lift
Na! It's over an hour drive to the nearest shop. Doing it yourself you get to keep an eye on your vehicle.
@@whatitisnt.Nope
@@kenj.8897 paying the shop extra you could probably ask to rustproof the interior of the doors. And the fender liners also. I've tried with jackstands many times, simply unable to achieve quality DIY. Some jobs it's just better to pay to achieve quality results lol.
Just got done doing an undercoating for the first time with WoolWax. I greatly appreciate all the videos you've made regarding products and the process. I'm excited to see how it did come Spring time
Just bought some Blaster Surface Shield yesterday based on your recommendation. I’ll put it on this week, heading into our first snowstorm this weekend!
Your channel is one of my top 3 favourites, and I've discovered it by searching for Fluid Film years ago, and U convinced me. No rust on my cars ever since, not even here in Norway, the 'nordic rust belt'. Tnx. 🙂
Pb blaster is great stuff 👏 I did my new ram in 2021 with pb blaster and just did a second coat in September of 2023 my truck looks brand new no rust for me 🛻👍😊
I just watched the 5 year mark from a year ago last night. This is awesome.
I'm from upstate NY and I thoroughly enjoy Eric O and his channel. Makes me a little homesick. Yours is great too. Don't stop.
Yearly updates are still welcome!!! You don't need to make even a 10min video, but as these vehicles both age, this will become more and more important and impressive. If you own either of these over 10yrs, this will be the best testimony to using any of these products.
Mr. and Mrs.O are some great folks! Eric is a complete genius on repairing vehicles that so called experts can't.. He's a beast in repairs
Thanks for opening up to us!!! This made it the best video yet!
cool seeing you and your dad together
😎 The lore behind the Legendary Repair Geek.
I'll recommend my friends (that care about their cars) your playlist because we live in NJ and Surface Shield all the way.
Great to see your channel doing so well! I always recommend your videos to people up here (about 1 hour north-east of you) who have no idea about coating cars on these salt-ridden roads. I'll be sending this to friends and clients tonight, actually! Keep it up and take care!
Because of your vidieos and Eric O I got my new car undercoated because you prove that it works
I found this fascinating and informative. I'm in Portland, OR. They haven't, historically, salted the roads (though I think they've done a bit of that in last couple years due to ice storms). So, we don't have the same challenges with rust that the eastern states do. Still, I think it's smart preventative maintenance to use these undercoatings.
I plan to use this product -- based on your detailed recommendation, in at least 2 videos -- on my 1988 Volvo 740. I want to keep it on the road as long as possible (since it still has low miles) and I now see that 'under the car' can be as important as the upper sections, for proper maintenance and longevity. Thanks for your great videos!
You will gain more viewers because you consistently provide high quality content!
You've done the car community a huge service with these tests. I had once actually sprayed my winter wheels with a different rust treatment to store them away in the basement for a summer; only to throw half of them away the next winter due to extreme corrosion. They were better off untreated and outside, that experience left me more than a little wary.
I've always been a fan of Fluid Film and now know I can trust Blaster along with it. Please do continue with the updates (even if there are no changes).
Please continue with the updates as long as either of you own the vehicles
THANK YOU! I have shared your videos with dozens of people that were unsure about what to do with their undercarriage. Hopefully they became some of your 100k subs.
Congratulations. You deserve it. Im sure you have saved a lot of cars in the rust belt. I just got a new car and was looking for protection in illinois, and im happy i found your content. Thank you and best to you
Thanks man! I bought a used 2018 Ford f150, the first thing I did was check the frame and body, it looked really clean and free of rust. This year, because of your channel, I sanded all the rust spots on the frame and sprayed it with surface shield! Thanks for all the info and advice!
I just bought a 1998 F150 and the frame looks good so I want to make it last. I can't afford much but I'm trying to make it last.
@@timgiles9413 I’m going to be posting a video of how I sprayed and undercoated my truck. Should be up sometime this week
I started using surface shield 2 years ago and your spot on I'm not getting any surface rust or decay on both of my vehicles.
Thanks for the great videos I really appreciate your insight.
Did you have to clean the rust off first and use a rust inhibitor? Im just wondering if i can you just spray surface shield over the rust. Thanks.
@@2011italianoboy yes,some of it i ended up using a needle scaler.
Because of you, I’ve surfaced shield my ‘16 ram which had plenty of rust and my brand new ‘23 GX. I spent 4 hours on former and 6 hours on the later most of the time spraying inside of the frame. Thank you for helping me extend the life of my vehicle.
I love to see father and son. Every thing about you and everything you know plus the way you think is because of your papa❤ great video!!!! You guys are going to save me money and prolong my truck. No corn fields.😂
Thank you for you taking the trouble to inform us of the products available to conserve our vehicles in a hostile environment. It hasn;t fallen on deaf ears. I will spread the good news of body/car conservation.
Proof is in the pudding. Thanks to your informative videos, I saved my FJ !! Love seeing you and your updates, keep it up for us 😊
Thanks for the 6 years of follow up!
Thank you my 2024 chevy1500 will not rot as long as I own it. Thanks to your time.
Thanks Andrew AKA Repair Geek, Just put my first coat of surface shield on my new/old 2016 Nissan Frontier. when purchased it was a southern vehicle with very little rust here and there and I'm looking forward to driving this for a long time. I should tell you I also live in the rust belt close to the center of Wisconsin. Most of my vehicles have suffered death by rust, that happens when your tire store will no longer lift your car up do to safety issues! With Blaster in hand I hope to prevent that forever!
Your point about diligently checking once/year is so key! Great videos and info amigo!
My 2014 Silverado has been sprayed with fluid film since new 148k miles. No rust so far in Northwest Pennsylvania winter's. Definitely stand behind this product.
Awesome to see the long term. I applied surface shield to my Sierra after seeing your tests. I reapplied each year but it's nice to know I don't have to if I take care of it and inspect as needed. Great content as always 👍
Great footage! If the stuff is on it don’t rust! Guys that say it still rusts! It’s from missing spots or not touching it up! It has destroyed some rubber on my vehicles but I’ll take that over rot any day
I ordered a 2016 Ford Fusion Energi (the plugin hybrid) straight from the factory. I picked it up with 0.2 miles on it. When I got it home, I put fluid film on it. Just used the spray cans and extension nozzle. Touched it up every year since. 2 years ago, I switched to Surface Shield as well. Now, it has almost 250,000 miles on it driving in southwestern PA so tons of salt and lots of miles. There is no rust on it. Anywhere. I take it to the dealership I ordered it from for tires and inspections and they do oil changes on it. They are so amazed, during their upcoming remodel, they are installing a bay just to apply surface shield. They do my oil changes for free now since I agreed to let them film my car (to sell the undercoating to other people) since it is so pristine. They are curious to see how long the car will actually last. The ONLY mechanical repair that has ever been done on my car is just installed new rear shocks (the upper mounts were rattling - the bushing was worn out). I also replaced the lugnuts (the infamous Ford chrome capped ones that swell) with solid steel ones. That is the end of the list. Other than that, just been new tires, brakes once (regenerative braking means very little brake wear), and oil and fluid changes. Without a doubt, if you live in the northeast and have to deal with salt and corrosion, you MUST use one of these products.
I did Fluid Film one year and then switched to Surface Shield. It is thinner when applied and crawl and creeps deeper and it just feels really doing something. And, I live in Fairlawn, Ohio, and Blaster Surface Shield is made next door in Akron, Ohio, the Vatican of Goodyear and Firestone, that city has automotive DNA.
Fluid Film was good I guess, like pig fat lard with a hint of basil and vanilla. Yet, Surface Shield is good lanolin and lasts longer, grabs better and is a light caramel color. And, Harbor Freight sells it for only $9.99.
Four years so far and is still brand new. I do the aerosol and got an extension nozzle for aerosol cans with a multi directional tip that I can use inside doors and crevices. Only $8 in Amazon.
I used surface shield on my 2005 Frontier after repairing some rot on cab corners and descaling and the frame has stopped rusting which is good. I've owned it 2.5 going on 3 years and its so much better shape than it was before. 2 more years of use and i'll sell it.
Shout out to Eric O and Mrs. O from south main auto, his channel is awesome
Thx for the background info, it adds to your credentials. Really enjoy your approach, & detail. I hate corrosion, drives me crazy.
i think it makes sense to do a 10, 15, 20 year followup! Keep the truck!
👍 the product speaks for itself great adhesion & protection
I do the undercoating myself, the outside is important put if you can remove bumpers and plastic it's even better. I also removed some trim on the inside to get in between the steel sheet.
I do the same now just spray where the wheel splash water and where it's scrapped, i'm at 5 years of coating. Mine swell rubber in the bottom of the doors seal sadly, to avoid that spray some silicon wher it may contact the undercoating.
Hey thanks for your videos. I’m also in Akron and because of your advice and videos I just undercoated my two cars with Surface Shield. Thanks Andrew
I am picking up an older car, and you bet it's going to get religiously coated and touched up! Congrats!
Thanks for your story - awesome! Since I found you, I've appreciated your honest and agnostic approach. I'm thankful I've never lived in a snowy environment at the same time.
I've been putting this stuff under a 20+ year old Toyota truck for a few years now. I wish I'd done it sooner. It's definitely working. New trucks are outrageously expensive.
I've no doubt that this approach works and may even be preferable for certain situations, but in my case I nearly completely derusted the rear end of my car nearly a year and a half ago, taking literally everything off and going at it with a die grinder and various chemicals, cleaned and degreased everything thoroughly, prepped it with zinc oxide & phosphoric acid solution, and applied POR-15, and so far basically no rust, no peeling, and everything looks like the day I finished it.
Of course only time will tell, but I do live and drive in the NE, a very wet and corrosive place where rust thrives, and a year and a half is not that long. Plus, it required a pretty intense effort to get it done and done right, and not everyone has the time, inclination, tools and skills to do this. I was looking to restore an old car that was still basically solid but had a lot of neglect that needed a lot of work, that I hope to keep and enjoy for years to come, and not to protect a newer model car that was in much better shape. It's really a matter of one's specific situation and priorities.
16:15 you're the best bro, you deserve it! Your content is top quality and you help people.
-From a french canadian that lost his last car due to rust😂
Great video showing the value of lanoline undercoating. I bought a new 2023 4runner in spring and did a heavy coat this summer. Might do every 2 years and the this truck should last my lifetime where i live (East Tennessee).
Was with woolwax fwiw
After watching your videos I decided to coat my new f150 in CRC last April. So far it has worked great! There are areas that get road wash that are starting to show some wear. Would you recommend cleaning up the minimal rust and re-coating with CRC or coating over the existing CRC and rust with fluid film?
SOS
I’m in the UK I’m using a product called Lanoguard I also used rust ‘converter’ before spaying ! Thank you for your informative video 👍
I never met an Andrew I didn't like. Used Blaster Surface Shield a few weeks ago on my truck. Very easy to apply.
Hey man I work with your cousin Pat at the fire department. He recommended your channel and Im glad he did!
I spray my 4runner every year with a gallon of fluid film. Love the stuff! Looking good man!
Do you have a mustache too? 😂
@@RepairGeek I absolutely do lol. Its a prerequisite to being hired🙌🏻🤣
Hey, thanks for the video. I have applied fluid film to both mine and my wife’s cars and am happy so far.
One thing that might be helpful for me would be clear information on how the non visible parts of the vehicle are constructed, like the inside of the rocker panels, the doors, the pillars, the fenders, etc. I would like to do a thorough job, but I also don’t want to accidentally stick the wand into the wrong hole and coat part of the interior
Since i got my 2014 chevy 1500 it had surface rust and i have used the rustoleum rubber undercoating and it just rusted through that anyway. I have been researching for awhile what i can do to make it stop and i think i may have found the solution, hopefully i can save my truck from rusting away 😂 thank you
Oh no ! Your videos are awesome ! We hate to see you quit next year
Fluid Film/Woolwax would wash off after a couple of weeks for me. Last year, I skipped the all lanolin products, including the Blaster Surface Shield and went right to Cosmoline's wax coating, RP-342. The wax coating lasted the entire Winter and some is still there, today.
Yea but won’t work over rust
You must not be putting it on heavy enough. He stated it takes time to build a layer that doesn't wash or wear off. I put some on my sister's 2005 Chevy with heavy rust on the suspension components 2 years ago and just checked it a month ago and most of it is still on there and where it didn't stick is where I did not get all the rust chunks off. I just recoated it again after cleaning more rust off. I will probably have to do this two or three more times until it no longer has loose rust or the car is in the boneyard. It may not last as long as most but long enough until the driveline components are worn out. My 97 Ford f150 frame is cheese whiz mainly because I did not drive it much and usually only during winter in the storms. I wish I had known about this stuff 15 years ago when I bought it used.
You have no clue on how surface shield stays put .
Have been using Woolwax for 7+ years, yearly coating/touch ups and have a nice waxy protective layer.
Thank you for easing my ownership concerns.
Thanks for introducing your history and what you are doing now,it was interesting.
We are spraying Surface Shield on our vehicles next weekend.
I owned a 2001 Ford Super Duty that I sold (a local landscaper begged me to sell it to them) that I undercoated every year. It had NO rust when I sold it. The first few years I used chainsaw bar oil. After that, I used a lanolin-based product.
Your video's have been great, I watched all on the undercoats and started applying lanoguard on my 2014 jeep grand Cherokee wk2 this year as at 9 years old the factory undercoat was starting to get service rust. The lanoguard is a lanolin and the best i could find in the UK its great stuff. So big thanks as without all your hard work would have ended up with waxoly
1 year and looking pristine! 👍
The secret is when you buy new vehicule is to treat for couple of years as you did, the protective layers will do the work over new frame
Nice to meet you, and thank you for sharing a (major) piece of yourself!
And of course, thanks for the updates with the undercoat!!
Actually, I do have one question - that you might have covered previously (if so, sorry) - but if you were to apply these coatings to a car that already has say, 175k miles on it, how would you go about cleaning and preparing the underbody?
My roommate has a 2007 Honda Accord that I think she bought in Arizona, but now lives on the eastern coast of Michigan. I just changed all the fluids last week, and have been trying to do all the little maintenance that has been neglected on it (basically everything due between 160k-180k, including a new accessory belt and tensioner later today once the sun is up), because it overall seems like it's still a solid platform, even if some of the cosmetic things are a bit rough (in which, I need to figure out how to handle paint correction, but I'm really hesitant about doing any sort of body work like that - my expertise is the mechanical side, not so much the delicate 'art' side).
Just a bit of very minor rust as far as I've seen, and I'd like to keep it that way for her sake (and mine, if ever I end up purchasing it from her, lol). So, considering it's starting to get cold and wet, I'm curious if I can do anything to prep it for this upcoming season.
My dad always said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." His cars always looked like hell and ran badly. My uncle always said, "Spend a penny, save a pound." My dad was wrong. Spend the penny. Take care of your cars. I hit my truck's twigs and berries with a lanolin spray every two years. It smells like taint for a week, but it really works.
Pretty cool to hear your background. Thanks for sharing.
I remember GM and Jeep/Chrysler/RAM/Dodge pulling out of a lot of dealers when I lived in Western WA. Some of the businesses survived and became used car lots, with cast-offs (auction purchased vehicles) that other dealers didn't want.
I remember your lift unboxing and setup video years ago.
I still have the 2017 Colorado Duramax that I've mentioned in previous comments. I have some Surface Shield in aerosol cans that I bought when it first became available, but I still haven't used it on my truck yet. I need to spray it so I can drive it in the winter. So far, it still stays parked most of the winter and only gets driven on dry weather days.
Great follow-up! Did you ever get Surface Shield to change the nozzle on the spray can or come out with their own long straw hose accesoriy for it ?? I ended up getting a couple cans of Fluid film and the long-straw adapter ( after undercoating with surface shield) to get into the small holes I could not access with the gun . I would have preferred to use surface shield as it smell a lot less. So did what I had to! Thanks again for all your tips and tests. Still following and will !
Big Haef-dog is looking down from the big Dodge Caravan in the sky with a smile on his face.
"This thing's all putzed up."
"Oh it runs... Well, so does my nose."
-Clyde Haefele LCJVS circa 2007
Thanks for the update! Especially on how the rubber/electrical components are holding up!
Congratulations on all the subscribers and thank you for all the great advice.
I usually spray used transmission fluid in a Wagner paint sprayer and let the car sit for a couple weeks on cardboard I used to do that with my Dodge neon It did work! Love your videos
I see a lot of old pickups down near the gulf covered in flaky rust the only ones that clean are the ones who’ve had an oil leak they never got fixed just topped off every week 😂 would def make sense that coving the frame in oil keeps it from rusting
awesome job!!! love the info you provide.
This is exactly the video i was looking for..
Thanks
Loved hearing your story! Thanks for sharing.