It's shame this ship fell by the wayside, it had pretty much everything the empire could've asked for in a fighter. I reckon this would have worked well alongside the Tie Defender if the Avenger was used as a strike fighter. Along side other craft like the Tie Hunter the Avenger would certainly provide some interesting what if scenarios if they had gone into full production. The Rebels would definitely have been on the back foot then.
Totally agree. If the Empire would've pooled all their resources together, they could've done some incredible things. A lot of the cool ships and technology never made it past the initial testing/prototype stages. Sad for sure.
@@Newie69MK - it's far beyond what you imagine ... speed on par with A-wings, shields with comparable resistance to the TIE defender, able to use every anti-capital ship warhead in small numbers, better firepower than the TIE Interceptor ...
The Tie Avenger is one of my favorite Ties, next to the Tie Interceptor and the Tie Silencer from the new cannon. I wish that the Avenger was brought into the new cannon like the Defender was.
For sure! There are a ton of ships that I'd love them to bring into canon. The Skipray Blastboat is my favorite ship, so that'd be my first one, but there are a ton of others out there too.
That's why Thrawn made such progress defending the Empire, while Moff Tarkin fought an uphill battlw against the Rebel Alliance. The "Tarkin Doctrine" is most likely what led the Rebels to gather and become such a powerful faction (imho). Had Thrawn been given leadership sooner (and not removed from the galaxy when he was) we would have had a very different looking trilogy... 🤔
The TIE Avenger is still my favorite fighter from the TIE fighter PC game. Even with better ships like TIE Defender or Missile Boat, I still like the intimidating appearance of the TIE Avenger
@@hyperspacedatabase easily the best dogfighter of its time. small profile, great speed, good shields and weapons make it great shame we don't see much of it
Longtime ago on PC decades away, I played the shit out of the X-wing/Tie fighter series. Such a fun game and great use of the keyboard with the flight options.
0:55 If Vader's fighter in A New Hope had a tractor projector like the Tie Avenger he would've locked onto Luke a lot sooner... History would've been along a different path for sure!? 😆
Strip out the hyperdrive _to reduce the cost,_ and use the extra space and weight for even more shielding or extra ordinance. Extra ordinance could be the cheaper and more flexible option, as it would allow the Avenger to do harder hitting attack runs. That could be a more mainstream fighter, as the Empire didn't like the idea of regular single seat pilots having a hyperdrive equipped ship - that could encourage them to abscond with their ship. The hyperdrive equipped models could be used by elite pilots that are absolutely trustworthy, for use with Hunter/Killer teams and as a fleet escort 'combat air patrol' that can jump in (and out) with the fleet so that some fighters are already launched when a ISD arrives in potential hot zone. And the elite pilots would be providing overwatch for the non hyperdrive models in mixed combat missions when bombing or torpedoing targets. With their hyperdrives they can also afford to mix it up with enemy fighters and hang back to allow the non hyperdrive fighters to be docked, then if necessary jump out under their own power.
I'll make a few corrections real quick. The Defender is actually the successor to the Avenger. It was a line of advances, and this line included the Defender, Avenger, and presumably also the Interceptor. Many more Avengers were made than Defenders, because Avengers entered production earlier. Just like the A5M (Claude) was replaced by the A6M (Zero), which would have been replaced by the A7M (Reppuu). After Endor, there may not have even been enough Defenders left to form a full squadron, but there still would hav been at least hundreds of Avengers. Zaarin was able to monopolize the Defender even more than the Avenger because he was the one managing the R&D of these ships. The attempted assassination of Maarek Stele was in an Interceptor, not an Avenger. They wanted him to be more vulnerable when he flew that mission.
this is an awesome fighter. it really is a shame it wasn't made in mass production since this is a rather effective ship and I honestly like it far more than the TIE Advanced. while it's no where near as amazing as the TIE Defender nor as sneaky as the TIE Phantom, this is still a fantastic ship that I wish was featured more in the movies & games as well as actual merchandise like toy ships (same with the other TIE variants).
Logistics: what do you have? Me: a tie that has ion cannons, four laser cannons, hyperdrive, missiles and shields with the option of a tractor beam. Logistics: too expensive. What else? Me: well cheaper we can make one with four laser cannons, missiles, hyperdrive and shields with option of a tractor beam Logistics: cheaper Me: how about the interceptor, four laser cannons, top speed but that's it Logistics:.......... Cheaaaaaper Me: we have a model with two laser cannons and a massive side profile. That's it. Logistics: perfect. Make a million of those Me: I need a new job
Hi! Don't take it as a tease. But I don't think the height of 7.2 meters is right. If we take that, how are the rest. TIE/In: 8.82 TIE/D: 8.7 TIE IN: 5.3 TIE/X1: 3.8 TIE/SA Bomber: 5.1 So I would rather approach the height of 5 meters.
I would have used hyper ring like Jedi fighters. To throw rebels a curve ball time to time. And sheilds ...well I wouldn't build ship without sheilds. By way check out the U.S Space Force jet , FA-XX & it's clone wing man. If Empire strikes earth in real life the FA-XX could hold their on . The IMPs wants no part of our general denamic mini-gun in .50 cal or our light 40mmm canon. Lol Dura steel is like butter 🧈 to these babies
It's shame this ship fell by the wayside, it had pretty much everything the empire could've asked for in a fighter. I reckon this would have worked well alongside the Tie Defender if the Avenger was used as a strike fighter. Along side other craft like the Tie Hunter the Avenger would certainly provide some interesting what if scenarios if they had gone into full production. The Rebels would definitely have been on the back foot then.
Totally agree. If the Empire would've pooled all their resources together, they could've done some incredible things. A lot of the cool ships and technology never made it past the initial testing/prototype stages. Sad for sure.
It hasn't fallen by the wayside. It'll live action debut next year in Andor Season 2
Don’t need the Defender. Use the Avenger and Missile Boat together.
Basically an interceptor but better in every way. I can't even imagine how epic it would be to fly one of these.
Right?! It would be crazy awesome!!
Get "Star Wars: TIE Fighter" and try it out. It's more like an Interceptor crossed with Vader's TIE.
@@Newie69MK - it's far beyond what you imagine ... speed on par with A-wings, shields with comparable resistance to the TIE defender, able to use every anti-capital ship warhead in small numbers, better firepower than the TIE Interceptor ...
@@alfredquirinus4025 I've played the X-Wing and TIE Fighter games, dude.
@@Newie69MK - *approaches and gives a handshake* ... me too ... *DUUUDE!*
The Tie Avenger is one of my favorite Ties, next to the Tie Interceptor and the Tie Silencer from the new cannon. I wish that the Avenger was brought into the new cannon like the Defender was.
For sure! There are a ton of ships that I'd love them to bring into canon. The Skipray Blastboat is my favorite ship, so that'd be my first one, but there are a ton of others out there too.
It will. It's currently sat in the Oxfordshire countryside and will appear in Andor Season 2
I love this fighter, basically the limited production model of Vader's Advanced prototype, with the Interceptors being the mass production model.
For real! That sums it up pretty well!
Another amazing tie that never saw service, at least they make for varied remnant fleets
For sure! The lesser known ones need more exposure!
I've often thought that if the Empire had more of the quality over quantity thing, they would have done much better.
For sure! It's crazy to think how fewer, better ships (in the right hands) could be so much more effective in the long run.
That's why Thrawn made such progress defending the Empire, while Moff Tarkin fought an uphill battlw against the Rebel Alliance. The "Tarkin Doctrine" is most likely what led the Rebels to gather and become such a powerful faction (imho).
Had Thrawn been given leadership sooner (and not removed from the galaxy when he was) we would have had a very different looking trilogy... 🤔
They kept trying and kept getting screwed over to give a reason to the audience for why they used basic TIEs.
The TIE Avenger is still my favorite fighter from the TIE fighter PC game. Even with better ships like TIE Defender or Missile Boat, I still like the intimidating appearance of the TIE Avenger
It is pretty fearsome to fight with and against!
Barely anyone talks about the missile boat which is a shame to me.
@@marrqi7wini54 I totally agree. That's why I did a video about it!
@@hyperspacedatabase
I just found it. Nice vid!
@@marrqi7wini54 Awesome! Thank you very much!
I remember we had to imagine what came after Vaders advanced fighter because there was no info on it lol! Now I know ! Thanks Jonesy!
Gotta love that history/trivia!
Finally someone talking about the tie avenger
Right?! Such an underappreciated ship!
@@hyperspacedatabase easily the best dogfighter of its time. small profile, great speed, good shields and weapons make it great shame we don't see much of it
Who's here after Andor season 2 mini teaser ?
Let's goooo!!!!!
Longtime ago on PC decades away, I played the shit out of the X-wing/Tie fighter series. Such a fun game and great use of the keyboard with the flight options.
They are fantastic games! I need to go through them again.....
xw vs. tf is THE BEST star wars game ever
Solid games for sure!
0:55 If Vader's fighter in A New Hope had a tractor projector like the Tie Avenger he would've locked onto Luke a lot sooner... History would've been along a different path for sure!? 😆
Oh no doubt!
I think the tractor beam idea was made by Vader to remedy that mistake.
It's not just anyone who can invent not one, but two of the greatest starfighters in the galaxy.
All you did was get Wraith so high on Spice he thought he had a totally different name
I’m sorry but having squadrons of both Avengers and Defenders would be devastating to any adversary
Good vid👍
Strip out the hyperdrive _to reduce the cost,_ and use the extra space and weight for even more shielding or extra ordinance.
Extra ordinance could be the cheaper and more flexible option, as it would allow the Avenger to do harder hitting attack runs.
That could be a more mainstream fighter, as the Empire didn't like the idea of regular single seat pilots having a hyperdrive equipped ship - that could encourage them to abscond with their ship.
The hyperdrive equipped models could be used by elite pilots that are absolutely trustworthy, for use with Hunter/Killer teams and as a fleet escort 'combat air patrol' that can jump in (and out) with the fleet so that some fighters are already launched when a ISD arrives in potential hot zone.
And the elite pilots would be providing overwatch for the non hyperdrive models in mixed combat missions when bombing or torpedoing targets.
With their hyperdrives they can also afford to mix it up with enemy fighters and hang back to allow the non hyperdrive fighters to be docked, then if necessary jump out under their own power.
Good points!
I'll make a few corrections real quick. The Defender is actually the successor to the Avenger. It was a line of advances, and this line included the Defender, Avenger, and presumably also the Interceptor. Many more Avengers were made than Defenders, because Avengers entered production earlier. Just like the A5M (Claude) was replaced by the A6M (Zero), which would have been replaced by the A7M (Reppuu). After Endor, there may not have even been enough Defenders left to form a full squadron, but there still would hav been at least hundreds of Avengers. Zaarin was able to monopolize the Defender even more than the Avenger because he was the one managing the R&D of these ships.
The attempted assassination of Maarek Stele was in an Interceptor, not an Avenger. They wanted him to be more vulnerable when he flew that mission.
this is an awesome fighter. it really is a shame it wasn't made in mass production since this is a rather effective ship and I honestly like it far more than the TIE Advanced. while it's no where near as amazing as the TIE Defender nor as sneaky as the TIE Phantom, this is still a fantastic ship that I wish was featured more in the movies & games as well as actual merchandise like toy ships (same with the other TIE variants).
loved
Logistics: what do you have?
Me: a tie that has ion cannons, four laser cannons, hyperdrive, missiles and shields with the option of a tractor beam.
Logistics: too expensive. What else?
Me: well cheaper we can make one with four laser cannons, missiles, hyperdrive and shields with option of a tractor beam
Logistics: cheaper
Me: how about the interceptor, four laser cannons, top speed but that's it
Logistics:.......... Cheaaaaaper
Me: we have a model with two laser cannons and a massive side profile. That's it.
Logistics: perfect. Make a million of those
Me: I need a new job
😅
Good thing for the rebel alliance that Zaarin decided to betray the emperor and destroy as many of the production facilities as he could.
Too true!
Hi! Don't take it as a tease. But I don't think the height of 7.2 meters is right. If we take that, how are the rest.
TIE/In: 8.82
TIE/D: 8.7
TIE IN: 5.3
TIE/X1: 3.8
TIE/SA Bomber: 5.1
So I would rather approach the height of 5 meters.
I love the Defender, but it feels tryhard compared to the Avenger.
I would have used hyper ring like Jedi fighters. To throw rebels a curve ball time to time. And sheilds ...well I wouldn't build ship without sheilds. By way check out the U.S Space Force jet , FA-XX & it's clone wing man.
If Empire strikes earth in real life the FA-XX could hold their on . The IMPs wants no part of our general denamic mini-gun in .50 cal or our light 40mmm canon. Lol Dura steel is like butter 🧈 to these babies