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Heated Compliance Hearing With Judge Lockwood
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I know they’re just doing their job, but the mother’s attorney gave me high blood pressure.
Yes - one can be firm but this is a whole new level.
I was ready to slap her by minute 10.
Lol yeah she was snippy. I'm glad she's fighting for Mom, but she went way too far with the snarky attitude. Imo
@@anniee6616 absolutely! I think the tone she chose to take and her excessive, unnecessary supercilious demeanor shot her straight into the condescending bitch category.
Lawyers have a duty to give a "zealous defense." I hate it, especially having been the foster mom being attacked in court by a parent's lawyer (many years ago), but it's absolutely the right thing for her to do. She absolutely has to defend her client's best interest as zealously as possible, which she is doing.
I agree with the lawyer - CPS must have their notes available at trial when children are removed from their parents
Right I was like isn’t what your notes are for ? 🤦♀️
This does sound a little fishey, and with all the stuff going on with CPS these days. I do agree with the lawyer.
I LOVE that judge addressed the girls' hair! It may seem like a petty thing to some people, but ethnic hair needs different care. I also loved how the kids lawyer didn't down talk the parents. I was actually shocked by a lot of this. 99% of these cases seems like it's mom and dad vs everyone. This was refreshing.
She probably address of hair because there’s been a lot of legislation passed about this issue
@@OldNurseBossyMeemaw legislation about fucking hair? Are you serious? As if we don’t pay these people to do more important things. They’re probably legislating hair right now when they should be focused on the town in Ohio they just nuked on purpose.
Because the guardian ad litem has the kids best interest. That’s their job CPS has their own interests. For example. The worker wasn’t worried about the baby being able to pull furniture down on herself or have a diaper rash so bad the judge is all cringed but the things that had her so concerned was that the father brought junk food, stayed past his busy time and didn’t wash his hands 😂 JS. I’m not saying these parents aren’t bad parents but just going on the testimony of this part, it seemed so messed up. She didn’t finish her parenting plan but they never set up the stuff they had to do for her to do it. They are 100 percent trying to permanently keep those kids no matter what the parents do, and the guardian for the child is trying to make sure the parents do all they are suppose to with the hopes of unification.
@@KarenJIrvine I didn't even catch that but now that you mention it you are so right. I've seen too many cases lately where cps isn't doing their job to help families reunify with their children. It's heartbreaking. I've seen too many cases where cps is working to keep the parents from getting their kids back. Then the crooked ass judge just sides with cps and it infuriates me. This system is so broken.
@@OldNurseBossyMeemaw Legislation about hair?
I love Judge Lockwood. He’s such a kind man with a huge heart. I wish he was still on TH-cam. I miss his wisdom
Ketterman is a NASTY woman. There’s no reason to speak to the CPS worker like that. She’s not concerned that the mother is a drug addict who doesn’t have custody of either of the 3 children. I’ve had stair step little ones before. If they’re sick like that and they’re all so small, diaper rash is a given. Stomach bugs are a given. I wonder what they’d have if they were with the parents??? This situation exists not because of the worker or of the poor foster mother who’s willing to take three tiny kids. It’s the responsibility of drug addicted, irresponsible parents. 🤦♀️
Does anybody else find it? Absolutely ridiculous that the mother's attorney is acting like the foster family is somehow unfit even though her client had her children removed by CPS for obviously being unfit? Obviously the biological mother and father have drug problems, and violence issues. Yet this attorney's going to see here and act like her client is holier than thou? She keeps harping on about the children being sick. News flash lady, kids get sick! And obviously the foster parents have taken those children to see the doctor when they were sick. The mother's attorney makes my blood boil!
Is mom’s lawyer good? Hell yeah. But to those of you that think, “oH ThaT CPS woRkEr WaSNT dOinG hEr jOB”
I think you guys are missing the big picture. Mom has all the time in the world to do this BEFORE she to rehab
I'm not saying the foster home is abusing the kids BUT I am saying I would rather be safe than sorry. Takoda Collins, leiland corkill, adrian jones, gabriel fernandez, do I REALLY need to go on about how many kids are in foster care and are overlooked???? Much rather be safe than sorry.
💯💯💯
I do agree that there is definitely an oversight issue in the foster system and that many children are neglected and abused because there just aren't enough dedicated case workers, proper and loving foster homes, or in fact money given to children/social services in order to improve things. With this said and although these are disgusting and egregious cases in which innocent young children died due to faults directly made by case workers, Takoda Collins, Adrian Jones and Gabriel Fernandez didn't die in foster care but were instead abused and murdered by their own parents and their parents' partners. ETA: 2 words.
Takoda, Adrian and Gabriel died by their own parents hands. CPS failed them, absolutely but they weren't in foster care.
Let that be you and see if “everything is good with no concerns” bc I promise if something falls on your child ; and it’s a complete accident, you are being way to nice to think that you will not have CPS there at the hospital and
Have your child taken at minimum of a 72 hour hold until it can be taken to a judge- the dr is a mandatory reporter as is other positions- teacher etc - and I have never heard of 1 single
Parent that has just gotten the child back and not been taken down a long long road that is designed against you - it’s not made for you to get them back- don’t believe it- think have you ever heard of them going back to ANY parent at the first hearing? Yes I understand that they need to be there for some childern they save there life but also they are not God and perfect so what about the times they “get it wrong “? Think of it from that angle, thank goodness for the times they do get it right but what damage is done to those children for the times they and the court get it wrong? God bless you if your poor or just the average person who works just to live and have lights water food etc paycheck to paycheck like most of us do - if you haven’t dealt with this situation please take time and thank the man above or Lady Luck or whoever you believe in because you have been very very blessed
@@everythingnotknown sorry but I'm a wee bit confused, are you replying to my comment or that made by Definitely Not Jill? I'm just trying to see how it ties together although it's totally possible if someone else had written a comment that has now been deleted!
I don’t know about this state, but I was a foster parent in Wisconsin and you don’t get the placement of a foster child unless they have a bed a dresser and other essential needs
It’s the same for Texas
I love this Judge, he is fair and does take care of the children first but encourages the parents doing currently well.
One thing that I can’t stand in all these CPS cases is when they call the children “ kiddos “
I don’t know why, but it really annoys me
It kind of feels like that's the 'designated term' for children, I've heard it so much!
I’ve mentioned that, before, as well! It’s just not a proper pronoun!
I agree 100%! It's just such an overused word nowadays & it sounds so... cringey? I actually have a visceral reaction when I hear that word 😩
@@kimberaliarimeow
I also have a visceral feeling that boils my blood when people say “Alls” when saying (All you) have to do.
Or “ brung, instead of brought.
My new piss me off word I’ve heard far too often over the last few years is “ conversating “
Ok, I’ll stop before I make any errors that some smart ass won’t be able to stop themselves from pointing it out to me 😁
@@nopenoway9875 agree 💯 with you 100% on all of the above. So I'll see your grammatical annoyances and raise you one-- when I see people type the word "an" when it should be "and" 😾 it makes me itch all over lol... I can't help it 😹
This case really divided people in the chat! It’s funny to see us all watch the same thing and feel so differently about it!
I love how the judge was fair and encouraging to the parents to continue to work on being better parents.
So happy for mom! She she be encouraged by this. Go mom go!! And dad -keep your mouth closed about mom. I really don't like when one parent disparages the other in front of the kids.
I'm surprised that lawyer didn't ask who it was sitting next to him!!!! 😂🤣
The 4 things not done are because ...THE MOTHER IS A DRUG ADDICT!! That's what I'd be screaming to the attorney!!
Lots of ppl have addictions. That dosent mean the department can do whatever they want.
@Sara my point isn't that. It's that because mom is an addict it's impossible for DCF to make necessary arrangements for the mother to do services. Which means YES, IT'S MOMS FAULT! No one made her a drug addict but herself! DCF has hands tied until mom gets her chit together! In the meantime, if I were a lawyer, I'd be filing for IMMEDIATE termination of parental rights. She chose to have a baby but then chose drugs. The child/ren have a greater right.. TO HAVE A RESPONSIBLE parent/s. Drug addiction is a CHOICE!
@@lisanoonan2947 immediate termination vs at least giving mom a chance to recover? Addicts do recover you know. And it’s traumatic for these kids to lose their bio parents. I hope you or someone you love never experiences the disease of addiction but maybe if you did you would have more compassion.
@Sara compassion is earned, not just assumed. She made a baby for God's sake! At that point, she has to make a CHOICE. Drugs vs. Motherhood. If drugs win, then baby must go. The father, in this case, managed to do his service plan. Mom waited until she was up against a wall b4 even giving consideration to getting clean. The second she found herself pregnant, that my dear, is when she should have gone to rehab because at that point it's not about her anymore it's about a baby and ITS life.
@Sara also please think of this: Motherhood is not a given right of passage it's an HONOR & PRIVILEGE.
Is it just me or does moms lawyer look like Edith Bunker 🤣
Bahaha
She looks more like Edith Bunkers brother.
Edith Bunker was likeable that's the difference 😂
😂😂😂 THANK YOU! It was bugging the 💩 out of me bc I couldn’t figure out who she looked like!
There are programs that allow parents and children to be together throughout rehab. These programs support the parent throughout the program, obviously, and work on parenting as well as addiction issues. It's a lot less traumatic for parents and children than being ripped apart, plus it contributes to a smooth, stable, and permanent reunification. Since you asked! :)
I understand cps workers are under stress. But better notes, less evasiveness would be nice. Every question needs to be answered and without attitude. Also if a child is taken from parents the facility or home should be held to higher standards.
Yes yes yes. I’m not a fan of hers and she’s got way too much attitude.
Theres a lot of hesitation for somebody who is suppose to be testifying objectively. This worker (whose heart is likely in the right place) makes the department look bad.
Yeah she appears to have major bias. The things she’s complaining about with the parents visits vs defending the things abt the foster parents. It’s not giving “impressions” it’s giving “agenda”.
They aren’t use to getting called out- most families are just surviving and bc of that they have court appointed attorneys who will never be this passionate about you 🙏 I guarantee that- so bc of that they aren’t use to even do so much as -bringing the needed documentation to a formal hearing . This should tell you that this is the normal for this worker - make that make sense -
My question is, how does a piece of bed fall on a child? A bed that is already put together and set up (mattress, frame, headboard) doesn't have pieces. I agree with the attorney, the way this likely happened is from the foster mom getting a new bed and putting the bed together, like attaching the headboard to the bedframe, maybe; and pieces were leaning up against a wall perhaps while she was putting it together and the baby pulled it down or climbed up to it and grabbed ahold of it. I'd have safety concerns too if that was my child. Every parent or caregiver should already be aware that you don't do chores around the house and leave a baby or 2-year old to wander around the house without supervision.
I'd love to get an update on this case if possible, O. Thanks for all your hard work!
Working on it!
Me too.
@@OnTropolisthank you!!!
That’s exactly what a Lawyer should do is fighting for her clients rights when the Caseworker is fighting against it .
Oh so you think that it's appropriate to be disrespectful ignorant and talk down to everybody ? The mommy and dad were ordered to go to rehab for reason I'm assuming so I'm sorry they don't have the best track record In doing what's best for their children.
All lawyers must zealously represent their clients, but what attorney Julie Ketterman was doing was just trying to put on a show and intimidate the CPS worker. In my opinion, the CPS lawyer should have been jumping in and objecting to her badgering the witness. She was slanting the questions to make it look like the CPS worker wasn’t doing her job, but the mom is in in-patient drug rehab. Even if some of those things had been set up, the mom couldn’t do it because she is in rehab.
It seems like the mom’s attorney has her own personal agenda with respect to CPS that might be clouding her representation in my opinion.
Those kids will end up dead if they end up back with those parents!
Why am I more concerned about the foster placement than anything? Diaper rashes non stop, sick constantly (could be mold-didnt mention a mold test?), The bed part falling on a ONE year old... Let's get real, if this was the biological parents - they'd take the kids for it, but since it's foster?? And for the dad bringing diapers every week and still diaper rashes??? Foster parents get paid enough (use to be enough per child for rent even $600/month).. this Foster parent is soooo concerning. And putting the parent plan solely on the mother at first?! Cps seems super biased, and more neglectful than anything.
The sickness was there long before this placement. They've been sick for months, and are improving in the new placement. Children on antibiotics and who are struggling with illness will often have terrible rashes as a result. I do agree there were concerns, but they were addressed. Parents should supply and support their kids in care, and foster parents should be compensated for taking care of other people's children when they choose drugs over them for months before taking action
The last couple of years here in Texas have been rough with rsv, flu, and tummy viruses. I am 49 was was in the hospital last summer for rsv, it almost killed me. I can't imagine a 5 month old going thru what I did. It's not normal for adults, but I have RA, and no immune system due to my meds.
Mom's attorney can get all that information without the attitude.
And practically shouting at the poor case worker
The case worker is unprepared. She came to court without her notes. She didn’t set up a lot of stuff she was suppose to do but saying the mom is non compliance. The lawyer is doing her job. Defending her client
Case worker deserved it. Try being prepared and try to at least ACT like your goal in reunification FFS.
@@sr5242 The 'poor case worker" was caught lying and twisting the truth repeatedly. I've worked these cases. When truth is being twisted and misrepresented, it's one's job, and not about being nice. Save that for a church social event. If state representatives are lying to misrepresent a case affecting lives, her job to get the truth, not being friendly to help them continue lying more easily. If you have untruths being used to greatly affect your family, you would expect your attorney to do the same and bring those untrue statements to light. That is what it takes for a fair hearing. CPS here is embarrassing their entire agency and shocking how much they're lying and over things so easily proven.
She’s not a nice person.
Mom's attorney was completely out of order and inappropriate. That being said, I will continue to not understand why these caseworkers don't bring their notes to a hearing!! I just don't get it!
Not outta order not inappropriate...she's a great lawyer really. She's got a bully attitude and acying in a way to try to catch the cps chick up right? I wosh that cps chick had some balls tho, right? That lawyer is gettin paid good, which is scary cause its obvi this mother and all other adults around have abused and failed these kids
Absolutely stressful, but she caught that caseworker up rightfully so. The caseworker was calling mom no compliant when she 100% was, and there ARE cases in which cps can be biased and not truly want the parents reunited with the child, and the lawyers are the ONLY ones who can bring that to light. Sometimes you need to ask the hard questions. Children get removed for reasons which are not what they appear all the time unfortunately. Had that been the case, if it were me, I’d want a lawyer who wasn’t afraid to advocate for me.
Why was she out of order? For pointing out their bs?
I'd hope to have one like her if my kids were in CPS custody. Nothing wrong with passion...
@@Cherilen83 She could've obtained exactly the information she wanted (or as resulted) without being so over the top and taking so long. It all came out like she was forcing things to be. Her dramatics were a little distracting.
Something is wrong with the foster care!!! No babies should be sick that much.
That's what I'm thinking. If these things were happening with the parents being investigated they would be removed. A long lasting diaper rash is definitely something that is avoidable. They do happen however if it's getting worse not better and medical treatment isn't sought that's a problem. And it's the caretakers problem... not the written comment "it's no one's fault" it is. The children can't treat their own rash and more expensive diapers DO reduce rashes.
dad doesn't have the brightest lawyer
Mom's attorney is doing her job well and has reason to be assertive. I've worked CPS cases. CPS was caught in outright lies and twisting the truth repeatedly in this case. You can't handle cases that way, especially any case with children involved. Her job is not to be timid and friendly, but to get to the truth. It's not a ladies' luncheon, but the lives of people. She's a good lawyer.
Yes! This whole thing bothered me. Any time the lawyer said anything about the foster parents the CPS lady hesitated. The CPS lady talked about tiny issues with the mom in visits but furniture falling on a child is just an accident? The foster parents clearly were struggling with ethnic hair and the mother was bothered and that was held against her too but furniture falling is okay, so is a bruise on their bum. I have five children and they have had diaper rash but never a bruise from it. That lawyer did a great job against a bias CPS worker. It was clear she was bias, big things are okay for foster parents, small things that shouldn’t be things are not okay for parents. I know people that have been abused in the foster care system so maybe I am bias but this made me mad.
Finally a good lawyer that will call out all the crap the case worker isn't doing or hasn't done. They are quick to judge parents but never CPS. I absolutely love moms lawyer!
Same!
Fair but remember, many many of the things she's accusing them of not doing, were not done because without 90 days sober and compliance from mom, she wasn't allowed to do the services
@@OnTropolis I've been through this. I'm 3 years sober now. I've watched this specific CW alot and she is never for the parents! She is always dragging her feet on anything for them and if the situation was flipped the parents would never see there kids again. The mom is finally taking initiative and that shouldn't be looked over, it took me the loner than 90 days to even admit I had a problem. Its clear the CW doesn't like mom and loves the foster parents and its sad so I'm thankful the mom has the lawyer actually fighting for her. If she didn't have her lawyer then I'm sure she would lose her rights.
Facts
@@danielleclark2594 I agree with you Danielle!! I am not a fan of that worker.
Mom's lawyer is a bulldog! I hope if I ever need a lawyer I get that type of advocacy. That said, Mom's got a long way to go.
Read her google reviews- 3.3/5 from CLIENTS
I appreciate her advocacy however her tone is off putting imo
Lawyer should be aware of children's needs...not trying to limit info all costs to return kiddos to a drug addict parent..she's a loud mouthed jerk
I'm more concerned about the children.
You catch more flies with honey than vinegar
OMG did anyone look into mom with her having postpartum???? Sounds like dad liked his drugs more that the kids.. It also seems weird for all babies being sick after being taken from mom! Then you WOULDN'T let her visit those babies especially an infant while sick? If You think of the children's first well just a mom's smell helps with babies heart rates, O2 levels, breathing control. I'm sorry if I sound over the top but I've seen a lot of babies saved by a moms touched snuggles & heart beat, Also a few moms were under arrest or bond on the NICU so to say she couldn't see them cause she didn't do things that would take weeks & because the kids wa so sick>>>> Really this is the best they got those babies deserved to see a friendly face like mom when they were so terribly sick at infant,1 & 2 yr old Not to mention did they ask for a postpartum evaluation those are really really close ages for a mom who could be struggling ughhhh!
I've seen many cases with Ms. Wright and she seems to do as little as possible to get by.
notice how she said adoption first. she doing whatever it takes so the fosters can adopt the girls.
She’s ALWAYS for adoption first before reunification. Check out every single case she’s in. Has she ONCE ever stuck up for the biological parents (even the ones who did EVERYTHING RIGHT to get their kids back)??
Can’t fucking STAND her. It’s case worker like her that gives CPS such a bad name.
@@Aurora-Nyx not just her. There is so much more.
The moms lawyer refuses to place any blame on her client, who is in rehab. Clearly she’s not a model citizen. And I say that as a recovering addict myself with two children. Take some goddamn responsibility for your own actions.
Amen! And congrats! I'll have 5 years clean on July 10th and I'm a single mom! It's hard but so worth it! I actually placed my son and it took me two years to get my crap together. I didn't make cps the enemy or blame them. I took full accountability and did whatever was asked and I got my son back!
@@Jennylouise87 Big props and respect to you and OP.
@@tubblebub Thank you so much!
Well said!!! I’m so PROUD of you for your accomplishments! I know it was hard. 👏 🎊 🎉
@@Daydreamer-ok6jj Thank you 😊
My goodness I’m more than half way through & this is one case where I think mom needs her kids back.
Gee, there is no middle ground with CPS. They either go all out, above and beyond. Or do sweet eff all. 🤔😖
Some moms just don’t have that built in instinct. I have 5 kids and one of my twins doesn’t have it. Neither does my son’s fiancé. And they have a 2 yr old. They all live with me. He takes care of him more than she does and I take care of him the rest of time. I put him down for naps and bedtime. He’s in my room. She doesn’t want him in there with her.
Nothing annoys me more than when these people say kiddos. Also, I disagree with so many of the comments popping up on the screen but still thanks for sharing 😊
This!
It has actually been proven that mothers and children together while mother is in rehab it is actually a really good plan and also very affective for both mothers and children, often better than foster care as a lot of healing and re-parenting can be done while there are social workers etc etc around.
Actually a very positive thing.
I agree
We have one here that keep moms and younger children together. I try to support them as often as I can.
We have one here as well, they’ve had great results. It’s important for parents to continue to learn how to parent even as they are getting better. Assuming there’s no abuse or neglect.
Yes! It's been proven to be beneficial to everyone and promotes parents getting and staying clean.
@Zephi I agree. Having the children with mother in in treatment
The case workers gives me, not to be trusted vibes. Moms lawyer is right in if CPS were involved and kids got that sick on mom, they would make it out to be moms fault somehow. Or if the child was injured by pulling furniture on herself, they would probably removed from mom. I’ve seen caring ones on videos I imagine this one isn’t easy to work with. Viruses have been everywhere but feel like she’s nonchalant with the injury 😵💫
They were sick more while in her mother's custody as they missed more visits.
They were and it’s been a terrible season for viruses but the injury sounds significant. You can feel the animosity and narrative this case worker is pushing with saying “she hasn’t done services” when in fact they haven’t been set up for her or the father missing 3 visits but when his lawyer asked, she quickly said well he cancelled one and others were due to kids being sick. She’s working against these parents but don’t know the full story or background. They may not keep their rights but the intent is to try and help make the family stronger
We don’t know any of the true facts it’s all hearsay from caseworker! I know a lady who was in foster care thru CPS and said they treated her and her brothers like a sack of trash that could be placed in anyone’s trash can!
@@kimrountree8046 We do know a 90 day program DOES NOT take 5 months to finish we can do math.
@@Delulutrain How is 5 months 90 days? She had the assessment in October and did not go into treatment till December. Some of the things REQUIRE 90 days sober before they can be done and she has not had that yet. The case worker said she was in the process of setting up some that needed sober time first when Mom decided to go to impatient treatment out of the area the worker could set up services in. It moves to a different worker since mom went to impatient outside her area instead of going to one inside her area. There is no way you can blame the worker for that. The dads lawyer was not all there he asked about missing visit that were already talked about when the children were sick and make up time was already had. Why should the worker not talk about a visit dad canceled she talked about ones missed while the children were sick.
Cps Wright really needs to be fired. Every video is the lies of her office.
when kids go to daycare they get sick
Who takes a whole bed apart to clean under it? Mom's lawyer was a bit hostile but this case worker didn't seem very neutral to me. She seems like her mind is made up already.
You're right. And the reason she is, is because if the foster parent is deemed unfit for whatever reason.. it's HER ass that's on the line. That is the cps workers job to insure they're in a good foster home. Hence the frequent visits there. I have great concerns with this foster home. Way too many issues going on.
Right? It seems like something totally made up. I don't trust that cps worker. She had ulterior motifs (like protecting herself and the department) and was way too quick to accept their reasons and dismiss/minimize worrying issues.
@@nowasiwassaying...1699 I agree! Scary. The ppl who are in charge of children's well being, can't be trusted. 😫 The kids are already taken out of their home for whatever reason.. and now they're not even guaranteed to be kept safe in the cps housing placements that get paid to keep these kids safe! They take safety classes and other training in order to not make these careless mistakes. Something isn't right in that foster home. Something is very off. And the cps workers are blind. (Or pretend to be blind anyway) 🤦♀️
Workers are rarely neutral and almost never supportive of the parents. Although this worker was actually ready for court. She had her information with her and was well spoken
@@Olive47223 yeah she was ready for court alright.. 🙄 ready to give a bunch of excuses as to why the kids are being neglected in multiple ways by the foster home she is advocating for. 😳 And the fact that most cps workers are against the parents is straight BULL 💩 ! Bc the preferred action is supposed to be reunification for the family. Smh the system is so out of wack it's insane. Working against the parents, when in reality they're supposed to be rooting for them. What a disgrace.
I loved when you put across the screen “shut up Julie” she irritated my soul
The mother’s lawyer is so nasty. She’s giving me anxiety 😟
From a substance misuse recovery specialist nurse perspective you should not put children in a rehab with a parent. They have to be able to focus on themselves to be in recovery, it's not goona be an easy process, if done right you're gonna be taken apart a brick at a time and then rebuilt. It's painful and it's hard work. If you then finish up the day and spend time with babies and kids? Nah ah. Bad idea. The programme either is not effective or is gonna get allegations when it goes wrong because a parent can't cope with being challenged through the day then parenting at night.
🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 get those kids into a new foster home! Better safe than sorry. If it happened with the parents it would be a huge problem. But it's ok with the fosters?! Hell no.
Agree!
@@mimikay5421 my stomach is literally in knots right now. I'm praying for those babies 😭 I really thought the judge was going to move them. They should take NO chances. I 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I wonder how many children are in the home? That alone can determine the care that the children are being provided.
Very kind and understanding Judge❣️ important when dealing with special ones💞💖
What a wonderful person, this judge is interested in every aspect of the children and their needs. This goes for Mom and Dad, as well. On each case, he’s so fair and thorough! I❤🙏😊
Mom’s lawyer is doing what she’s paid & sworn to do.
I know right, and everybody is saying she's a bitch 🤦 she made the c.p.s worker look like a fool😬, I'd want her on my side TBH 🤷
More than once I saw, “Objection, non responsive”, yet doesn’t bother waiting for the judges response before continuing. Completely out of order. I’d love to see her get a public and official reprimand.
The judge ABSOLUTELY should be raising concerns about these bruises and such. There are too many situations where children are harmed in foster care and cps isn't exactly motivated to investigate it because they don't want to be held responsible. I'm not saying *these* fosters did anything, but the judge absolutely should be requiring these things to be investigated because, unfortunately, cps struggles to govern themselves and there are too many cases where foster families are negligent.
Ppl here so offended that the lawyer was aggressive with a caseworker when the caseworker called mom non compliant when the CASEWORKER was the one who was unprepared and not honest. Called mom non compliant when CW hadn’t set up services. Judge Lockwood would have stopped moms attorney if she was truly “out of order”.
She didn't not set up the services...mom wasn't 90 days sober so she COULD not
@@OnTropolis she hadn’t done the 2054 one or whatever it’s called, and she was not prepared with notes from medical visits etc. I’m just saying the lawyer was doing her job well.
I've just started watchin & already know Mom's attorney ain't playin games!
My ex husband and I raised all five kids before we divorced, and we provided our kids with an imperfect but stable, loving, consistent, law abiding environment. But if I were a parent trying to get my kids back....that mothers attorney would be the one I'd want lol
Right!! I was thinking the same thing 😅
💣💥 I would love for Ms Julie Ketterman to be on my side 💪🏻 She's not being a "b*tch", she's being a badass, nailing cps Tarrah's lies, butt covering and ineptitude.
Why is the mom doing that with her lips the entireeee time😅😂
😅😅😅time stamp ????
Certain medications cause facial movements maybe
This woman can even answer a simple question...She should have all of the notes on these children...
She probably has an enormous case load- yes she should have notes but I imagine it’s a monumental task to keep it all straight
I thought she had a lot of information considering the length of the case, number of kids and two parents running in circles
Completely agree
She’s so unprofessional. Can’t stand this CPS bitch. Do your job and at least ACT like you’re trying to reunite the kids with their parents FFS.
The mothers lawyer was EPIC! Finally, a lawyer who genuinely zealously fights for her clients rights!
You're correct, but it is more than not having the notes. Most agencies would not tolerate this, but she also has been caught lying a lot. It's hard to lie when you're being caught. You get flustered, stutter and aren't sure whether or how to answer. With noncompliance, what they are claiming mom didn't do, the agency can't even offer or set up yet so Mom can't do yet. They neglected and misrepresented that part. She's lying over what is easily proven and seems they thought parents couldn't retain lawyers because parents pro se would have be railroaded. CPS can do good work, but when they lie, they hurt the entire system. Second case I have seen this particular caseworker do this. She's in the wrong occupation.
What is it that people on the screen are so disrespectful that they walk around with the phone camera or just disappear? They wouldn’t do this physically in court. The judge should lay down the rules to be stationary and he should admonish those who don’t.
The exchange between mom's atty and CW is epic. Atty was borderline abusive to CW. I think the CW handled her well. "I just told you...." loved that🤣 And she is not CWs boss, she has no business telling her what she should be doing and what courtesy worker should be doing. Stay in your lane lady
Courtesy worker s/b advising the status..does COURTESY WORKER mean unpaid so unprofessional...
I dunno I think the CPS worker should stick to HER own lane. How about she stop getting in the way of reunification with biological parents as she seemingly LOVES to do re: all the cases I’ve seen with her in it. Maybe if she stopped being a snarky little bitch then the lawyer wouldn’t have to be rude to her.
I’d for sure be even ruder to her than the mums lawyer was!
@@laureljenkins1208 No. A courtesy worker is a CPS CW from another county. When children are placed in a different county than where the case is out of, they assign a CW from the placement's nearest CPS agency to do some tasks that primary CW is too far to do such as monitor visits, check out placement's home, etc.
I feel like it’s about time to see someone fighting for a mother with the same level as the other 6 people going against her
I feel like it’s about time to see so called mothers take some responsibility when they have children…
@@KaktusLady when was the last time you *took a bed apart* to clean under it?
my kids had so many goose eggs and bruises at these ages and horrible diaper rashes
Mine too! Because kids are clumsy and constantly on the go. There's a difference between regular bumps and bruises and cooties and bumps and bruises from abuse and you can tell.
It must take incredible patience to remain professional in the face of questioning in the style mother's atty uses.
Everybody is complaining about mother’s lawyer, but if your kids were removed and one came to a visit with a “huge” knot on her head and a mark on her check at only one year old, you would want this bulldog attorney on your side. The social worker will try to avoid this treatment from the attorney the rest of the case.
That lawyer is rude and condescending 🤬 I can hardly listen to her abrasive questioning.
I find it humorous that it is okay for the creator to write stuff on the screen calling people b**tches but tells the viewer to not contact or harass people
Right? The mom’s lawyer’s job is to be a zealous advocate for her client. She’s just doing her JOB as she should, and doing it well. It seemed to me like she’s dealt with this caseworker before and is sick of her b.s.
Yes, Ontropolis-- I disagree with you too. Julie K is protecting these children. That young case worker is not doing her job properly.
YES!! And if/when OnTropolis has an issue and is forced to deal with their local CPS department, they'll be calling Julie Ketterman IMMEDIATELY! Court cases (ESPECIALLY family court cases) aren't gentlemanly disagreements, they're knock down, drag out slum brawls!! You MUST have a pitbull like her on your side!!
I'm completely 100% on the mother's lawyer's side.
Oh man. I pray for those three little girls.
The CPS worker is lazy in my opinion. Seems like a lackadaisical type.
No. To me she’s always the most detailed with her cases.
How many case files does she have?🤔
@@twilightshealy4152 I have no clue, I know they are overworked, but to so many children have slipped through the cracks under supervision of CPS all over the country; resulting in injury, death, etc. The systems needs overhauled big time.
@@angelabarazzone7899 Mom moved out of the area she could set up services for at the time she started to set them up. Granted it was for impatient treatment that mom could have started MONTHS before that. It seems like mom is the lazy one the second the worker starts to be able to start setting up services because mom had been testing clean long enough mom goes to impatient in a different area that the worker can't get her services in.
@Angela B I agree. It seems she has a chip on her shoulder from the mother for some reason.
I’m actually not a huge fan of this case worker. I know that’s going to be unpopular. I don’t think she remains objective nearly ever and I do always feel that things that happen in care are minimal and no big deal, accidents happen, kids get sick, foster home is only human too etc but if it’s the bio parent it’s always massively significant and looked very down upon. I also realize she has to answer the tough questions and she’s only doing her job. But honestly, the lawyers do make good points here and they’re only doing their jobs, as well. If parents can’t do certain things bc it’s not set up yet, that really isn’t the fault of the parents. And if a parent is required to provide gainful
Employment and housing AND do things that contradict that ability it’s kind of hard to do.
One thing I know for sure is it’s a whole lot better to just be a good and stable, safe parent bc being looked at through a microscope would suck!! Let’s just be real here, every parent makes mistakes and we all do things to make life work for our home and individual kids and collective family. Sometimes we even do things we sure are glad we don’t have someone watching us for and if not, either that’s a lie or ya haven’t been parenting long enough lol. I’ve totally broken (not ripped) a rubber band out of my child’s hair and there’s been a knot of hair in it but that wasn’t pulled out of my child’s scalp, it was in the rubber band which is why I just break them and toss. I’d hate to be judged for that 😂
Again just playing devils advocate here bc I realize these parents have drug and other issues but man… did furniture fall on their baby’s head in their care? I’m just saying that standards should be held evenly and I don’t think this worker is as non bias toward the parents as she should be.
OH and cheap diapers absolutely so leak faster than better diapers! Doesn’t mean you don’t change the diapers when needed but those dollar store dipes are awful. Ok off my soapbox now ❤😂
The kids were SICKER at grandmas they missed MORE VISITS from being sick there. Mon could have had the other services set up if she went to inpatient rehab right away and was already 90 days sober but NO she waited till December to enter the inpatient rehab.
@@63076topher I get it. I do. But I can also appreciate that she didn’t leave until the day after removal. That had to feel like rock bottom for her and I hope that bc of it, she doesn’t forget what her kids went through, and what she went through too, and she fights hard not to return to that life. The fact she was 90 days sober at least says something. I understand the services and timeline. And maybe the kids were sicker prior, but we don’t know 100% and it prob doesn’t even matter now as long as they keep getting better.
I just also can appreciate the sadness and reality of the shit hitting the fan and the devastation of it all. I knew it might be an unpopular opinion and that’s ok. I’m trying also to appreciate that one’s brain is literally altered and damaged by drugs and what a rational, drug free person with proper support can reason and rationalize appropriately, a brain affected by drugs may not. The babies are who suffer ultimately and if mom (& dad) can truly get it together, reunification should be the goal. I wish them all the best. Those babies deserve that! 💕
@@SydneyBooksMusic That is what CPS is aiming to give them the relative placement was refusing to drug test that is why they were removed from them it seems like drugs are not just a issue for mom but her own family so NOBODY will look out for the best interest of the children when and IF they are returned to mom.
Agree with you totally
This caseworker is terrible😮
This breaks my heart. Why is family unification secondary not the primary goal??!! 😢
Primary goal is safety and care for the children.
When my daughter was little, if she got a mosquito bite it looked like she'd been burned by a cigarette. Our pediatrician was aware but it still looked bad. The mother's attorney stressed me out.
42:45 when mom’s attorney said pass the witness I’m sure the social worker literally exhaled! Lol such a great lawyer. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
If the kids had been sick and injured in the mothers care like they were in the placement cps would have really had a fit. I dont know what she did to have her kids removed but I know ,from experience, that social workers can make your life a misery if they take a dislike to you that can ruin you and your children's lives. They can twist anything to look bad.
Try writing a report on yourself as if from someone who doesn't like you. I also don't like really young women who aren't mothers from totally different social backgrounds straight from university giving criticism on parenting.
@@Jp-bv8yw I could have written your comment myself... You're absolutely right. Honestly, I wish more people understood what you said.
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Thank you so much for replying. I was tossing up whether to leave that comment at all. Some people think there should be no second chances.
And believe everything Sw"s report.
One small part of my report I remember was she said my daughter "s bedroom was adequate and luckily i could prove it wasn't just adequate. I'd spent a lot of time ,just me, painting it different pinks with fairy lights and net drapes over bed. Full of books and games . Brownie badges and dance medals. I had pictures at the meeting and proved that small part of her report wrong it showed everything she said could be too. .
I also had the habit of putting empty boxes back in freezer and empty cans washed out upside down in cupboard. They did like to come in and look the day before I went shopping. I also had a good neighbour who I could borrow food from if I had notice. I'm not saying me or my daughter ever went hungry but I couldn't spend money on food that stayed more than a week either.
@@Jp-bv8yw Real!
When you need a lawyer for court & pay your uncle, whos a landscaper, and showed up drunk to fake the role.
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Can’t stand listening to moms lawyer I have to turn it off she is too hostile
I’m sorry but I’d have a problem with that rude mom’s attorney screaming at me if I were testifying. It’s not the department’s problem that these parents chose drugs over their children!
You have to be ultra selfish to put drugs or alcohol before your children and allow total strangers to have control of where your children reside WITH total strangers so that hag needs to calm down with being angry at CPS.
I raised 2 kids, they WERE NOT sick a lot.
I am at around 24 and I have to tell you I am ok with Ketterman. I would want her as my lawyer if someone was trying to take my kids away! The CPS case worked said she was not in compliance. The lawyer is proving she is in compliance because CPS has not set up what they are supposed to.
I was happy at the end when the judge said that the court finds her in compliance with her services, after the case worker repeatedly said she wasn’t in compliance when she definitely was. I didn’t trust this social worker at all.
Id get off my ass and set it up myself
@@laureljenkins1208 As a former member of CASA, she cannot. She has to use who they are directing her to. And if she calls too many times requesting updates, CPS will list her as combative. That said, her best course of action is to call the children's attorney. But again, she has to be careful of how many times she calls. Now that said, she could possibly call around to find someone, but again CPS and the children's attorney would have to be in agreement with who she has chosen. Given that she is in rehab, this is really on CPS.
Mom’s attorney was fantastic. U definitely want her on ur side to protect ur rights as a parent. Reunification should always be the 1st goal. Some parents take longer then others. Cps should be cheerleaders for the parents but after seeing the worst they assume the worst. I didn’t like Ms. Wright, she was smirking she laughed, not professional or unbiased at all! she was done with the parents & it showed. Ketterman did a great job.
Moms lawyer was amazing
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@Amethyst Jones how was she disgusting? She was doing her job and doing it well. The judge would have stopped her if she was being disgusting or a bully.
You would think mom would hurry up if she wanted her kids back.
Hurry up and what? Leave the treatment she's ordered to be in which would violate a court order?
@@emilykay115 they were at the 5 month mark and she hadn’t completed anything.
Just seems like we would try harder
@@tracyt.2534 well partly because the resources weren't given according to the worker's testimony. However she has to do 90 days in rehab and there's usually a wait to get in. She's in rehab so she's working her plan. These things take time.
@@tracyt.2534 try harder? Interesting choice of words for someone who's not trying to understand the process. As a mother I'm very glad I've never had this problem; however as a decent human I can appreciate her dedication to getting sober to move forward with a clear mind to set the tone for positive change. If she's just going to relapse because her sobriety was just part of the demands to get her kids back why waste their time? Progress happens slower for some than others.
Why didn't the foster parents show up for such an important hearing! I think there are some red flags and the foster parents should be checked on more often.
Because it’s not required and usually they don’t ask you to speak. That’s what CASA and the guardian ad litem are for. And this county has had a high incidence of RSV since November.
I hear so many horror stories about kids being treated worse in foster care. It's like the parents have to prove they're fit but the placement doesn't. Might not be true but I feel like it is.
@@PansyF lol! You wouldn’t believe what you have to go through to be considered for placement. They even question you about your sex life! You have to provide proof of vehicle insurance, proof of homeowners insurance, 5 non related recommendations, a visit to a physician to prove you’re medically ok to take care of a child, they interview your kids and your employer, you have to buy ridiculously expensive fire extinguishers, if you have a 2 story every window must have a safety ladder, all your cabinets must be childproof, all medications including Tylenol must be in a locked box, if you have pets they need a statement from a vet…I could go on and on. The parents are not required to do any of that and this is required of any permanent placement even if the placement is a relative.
The judge was wrong to allow the witch attorney to YELL at everyone. Notice she doesn't yell at him.
I don’t get the mothers lawyer! What exactly is she trying to prove? That the kids being sick is because of cps???? The woman said they were sick BEFORE they were relocated. Why do these bad moms get such bad lawyers!
This what defense lawyers do, it’s their job if any one was in the moms place you would not complain about the defense lawyer asking these questions regardless of right or wrong she is doing her job period!!
The questions may have been necessary. His demeanor was not. Arguing about the presence of the parents on camera to avoid trauma, his attempt to manipulate and intimidate her, his rude argument with the judge, none of that was ok. I've seen many adversarial lawyers question opposition. I've never been as disgusted as with him
@@OnTropolis oooh I think that this comment is meant for your other video in which the young 12 Yr old is questioned and not for this video!! ETA: spelling
@@286seo you're right! My apologies. Same goes for this one tho she was awful lol.
Thank you for making these videos available. Its just that some of the remarks that pop up from time to time are so brutal and inappropriate, especially during such a personal and sensitive time for everyone involved.
Sometimes my reaction may be inappropriate or brutal, but transparency in my gut reaction as I watch is part of my Commentary style. Quite often I change my mind as I watch, and I do eat my words sometimes. I don't watch first then edit. I react organically while I'm watching for the first time
@@OnTropolis Although our reactions may differ at times, it is part of what makes us human. Thank you for your reply and for sharing such interesting content.
Dear Julie Ketterman aka bulldog- you might want to hold back on 'objection non responsive' and allow the lady to explain a little instead of bulldozing her down. Only later did you find out why certain things weren't achieved for your client.. you didn't do yourself or your client any favours.
She changed a diaper and DID NOT wash hands....how the heck was she even back at the lunch table...
Foster care makes me take my foster kids to the doctor for the most minor things. So yes. We are always at the doctor
Always!! That and prenatal trauma and lack of prenatal nutrition/care leads to a life time of issues.
Y’all are being wayyyy too hard on the mother’s attorney. She asked good questions and for whatever reason the case worker was unable to answer with any clarity. These hearings make me really disillusioned with CPS.
Same here. I'm shocked CPS allows their caseworker to testify about a case without having the case file in front of them.
Why would you allow 3 children that have had to go into foster care to be in a foster home that you (Casa) had concerns about?
They, All the State people, don't seem to be trying to reunify these kids.
Ms. Shockly Keep up the work! Like Judge said don't let down just keep moving forward. You've got this!!🤗💖
Listen LINDA, I'm not gonna lie... I am getting some enjoyment watching this atty be so rough on this social worker! Social workers have a very, VERY hard job. But some, not all, are way out of their league. Tarrah seems to be awfully uncomfortable & self-righteous. Not all illnesses, over a 60 day time period, could possibly be caused by mom's lack of care. Some, absolutely. Just a complete estimate; I'd say no more than 2wks post move-in, 3wks at the absolute most! Those weeks would be in the beginning.
44:40 - This CPS caseworker is completely broken right now. She has no voice left, it quivering like crazy, all her confidence is totally eliminated… she may never get any confidence back again. She wants to be ANYWHERE but where she is right now. Moms lawyer destroyed her.
Now this is a BIG problem. This caseworker is wholly unqualified and moms lawyer showed that. If she breaks this easily… than a case with difficult kids or parents…. how would she react to them?? This is a HUGE RED FLAG and I hope her superiors ARE WATCHING!
I love Mom's lawyer. She is a bulldog. Good lawyer
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I started tearing up when Ms. Wright was being ripped apart. I know I get it. I wish I could have hugged her. Admire her poise and calmness
why? if she was doing her job totally, there would be nothing to rip apart for a lawyer. She wasn't present for most meetings, she tried to dance around the 1 year old being injured. Do you realize how many children are ab_sed in foster homes each year? Never immediately assume anything. I am highly suspicious of this foster care placement.
Maybe she should come prepared and do her job instead of making it seem like mom wasn’t doing anything.
@@fjetcj the foster parents took the kids to DOCTORS and those Doctors have a duty to report any possible abuse or neglect and did report a single issue. The egg and sperm donors had to do something pretty f$$king bad to lose complete custody and have their kids put in unrelated foster care. The egg donors own mother had custody and lost that to the foster system. CPS workers are some of the most under paid and under appreciated people around. Because of scum parents who neglect their own kids, these folks don't have just 1 or 2 cases, they are buried in them therefore can't be at every visit. That Attorney was a royal POS, all she had to do was ask the questions without the circus bully shit, the CPS worker was under oath and therefore had to tell the truth.
She kind of deserved some of it. She was trying to throw mom under the bus. Glossing over the furniture injury in the placement made me mad. If that happened to a bio parent, CPS would have a come apart. It happened in a foster home and it's no big deal? Nah.
@@fjetcj ty. Good insight! Thanks for educating me! 😉
That CPS worker needs to be fired, and the foster family needs to lose their license.
I always want bio parents to have a robust defense, but this lady was over the top. Babies get sick, especially when there is a change in environment/exposure to others and other babies. Sheesh. If babies being sick for 5 months and getting diaper rashes when sick makes a bad environment, I should have lost mine a long time ago. 🤦♀️
I agree and also didn't think it was super fair that they were trying to blame the kids being sick on the foster placement only considering they have only been there for the last 2 months and had been previously placed with their maternal grandmother for 3 months.
So many people in this comment section are trash-talking Mom’s lawyer, but my god is dads lawyer awful…who interrupts a judge like that?? 🙄
The parent lawyer is really bad. It’s absolute bad practice to try to criticize the current placement in order to get the children returned to the parents. That’s a technique that parents often use but for a lawyer to use it is very unprofessional.
It’s not unprofessional if it’s true and the children are being harmed. The caseworker isn’t doing her job in this one. Someone has to bring it to the court’s attention.
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