Bottom line: maybe Subaru and their BFF Toyota might know a bit more about R&D and aerodynamics than these aftermarket body panel/dresss-up part makers out there.
dont give them so much credit i work in the paint shop for stellantis all auto companies have issues that we find out about later that we then go back an address things like this are overlooked easily.
I'm supposed to walnut blast the carbon buildup in my intake valves every 20,000 miles thanks to Subaru's absolute failure to mitigate a very common problem in their GDI engines. They are not the leading edge of design and function by any means.
You could stick some of that rubber door protector stripping around the circumference of the scoop. It’s a long U-channel so ya wouldn’t need to use double sided tape. 💡
I think that the weather stripping on the stock scoop is there to prevent this issue. Whenever I see something that is OEM, even if it doesn't make sense at the time, I still try to replicate that on aftermarket parts. It wouldn't make any sense for it to be a water seal when the scoop itself freely let's water in. It's painted and clear coated. It won't rust. I think you had the right idea I will just try to add the weather stripping to my scoop but I didn't go with this one. I just got the OEM + one from another site. Haven't isntalled it yet so we will see if I can avoid scratching all together. Also, side note, the paint on this car is so ridiculously soft that I am probably just gonna wrap mine. You can look at this paint the wrong way and it scratches.
Yea it's also the OEM one airs inside the hole for the scoop whereas the aftermarket one is just physically bigger and sits on top of the hood. Any vibration was gonna cause this issue.
Amen. Mine is garaged and only driven in good weather. No rain. Foam cannon and careful gentle washing and still small swirl marks. I'm very meticulous and still this paint is so sensitive.
I can understand how some people might be upset by this, but I'm like you. Little stuff like that doesn't bother me. I drive my car, I expect it to get knicked and dings.
I am a part of the same FB group. There are also posts elsewhere about this issue. I feel like this is avoidable at the time of install. Now to be fair, this should not have to be the case, but your solution of a foam gasket is one way. an alternative option would be thin strips of 3m clear protective film. I would put it around the rim of the part and around the rim of the hood.
WHY NOT USE A THINNER 3M DOUBLE SIDED TAPE FOR THE FRONT AND SIDES AND DOUBE UP THAT SAME TAPE FOR THE BACK PORTION CLOSEST TO DRIVER ?? WHEN COMBINED WITH THE FASTENERS WOULD THIS NOT PREVENT RATTLING WHICH LEADS TO SMALL PAINT CHIPS ?
im going to put 1/4 wide 2 sided 3m tape all around on the bottom outer edge of this scoop,not the side like original when i get it and not peel the other side so i can move it in place to align the screws.This is the issue is the bulge scoop sits on the hood,not down in the hood like the original so you have to raise it.
how about laying down some painters tape to wrap the entire perimeter of the opening? that might work.. thinking about getting this scoop myself, looks awesome.
This is not a guarantee or a solution, clear bra for the hood/front, this will also help out to protect against rock chips too. I also have a 3 year ceramic coating for the rest of the car as well. This is by no means within everyone'd budget. I just feel at peace knowing the paint has some protection against the everyday environment. If you like to tailgate though this might not be the greatest protection but who can avoid tiny rocks on the highway or roads when you have 1 lane or see them coming on the highway/interstate.
Thank you for making this before I installed my scoop. Please do a follow up to see if the foam or other solutions help, I'd love to have this scoop, but not worth damaging the hood imo
I'm in the same FB group, i have the solar orange VB that got the wrong color scoop. (blue) With a lot of back and forth about the subject on the group, i think I'm going to leave mine alone; i have not checked mine. Ours is a DD...i agree on the rock chips, i have so many that IDGAF anymore 😂 as it's pretty much unavoidable because she's a DD. Besides, too much removal and installing of the included scketchy screws will murder those plastic threads in no time making things worse. Mine seems to be secured so I worry more about the cheap hardware coming loose or worse, scoop flying off while driving. I'll be checking periodically to make sure its still on there properly.
Dude, I can't believe you even got the wrong color. It was an honest mistake but was funny and irritating nonetheless. I do believe the dimples is an issue and the fact that it scratches your hood is an issue. I also believe that it is blown out of proportion when people say their hood is absolutely ruined. I did get a chance to talk to you the people over at Noble and they told me that a fix is coming.
I actually took my scoop off the other day and it was fine. Just the few scrapes i had mo that ago and nothing new. Tbh it's not something that's visible. I wouldn't worry about, infeotauntely, that's the rinly new answer I have.
Yeah mine are pretty bad, I remove mine and put my oem back oem till I receive the low fricton tape and with the oem scoop you see all the damage because its smaller
@@diemf50I appreciate it! You were sub # 4700. Also, you're telling me. I am bad at keeping up with my own socials. My social media manager, aka my wife, hasnt been helping me 😭😂
I saw a video that helps you make the hood fight tighter reducing the flex of the hood which may help .. I need to go find that video but… I think there are rubber stoppers on the frame or hood that u can twist like a screw and it helps with the flex ..
@@44actual I have not looked however it’s a simple fix … there are what look like rubber bushings/ u er the hood the act like screws , they can be turned or crest more or less resistant… there either oh inside of hood or frame of engine bay where the hood meets the car
I went to home depot and got some 1/4" weather strip and worked fine, it was pretty much a thing to install from the get go, don't want scratches on the car ? Don't drive the car or install aftermarket parts and complain about the road debri 😂
@@HeavyMetalWRX you have the front mount ic so your good with air where you need it I have the cobb top mount so I need the air through that scoop the screen in the aftermarket scoop to me seems that it could let less air to the wide open stock hood scoop
I had the same xoncern when I bought it but I'd definitely say it doesn't let less thru but it's not alot more since I had to buy a 2nd I'm going to mess with the one I fd up an try finding a better mesh to put in but it's definitely nice opening the hood an tons of leaves an bugs not stuck to intercooler
keep it on for 2 years and look at the damage... 3m tape? Its probably vibrating / ocilating so fast you dont see it, and that is rubbing the paint off over time.
So for my bulge scoop I will try that left over 3m tape I got from my duck bill. Let you know how that goes. You gave me so good idea on what I can do.
my stock scoop bounces around quite a bit on its own. I’d imagine the increased drag and high center of mass on the bulge scoop is putting quite a bit of stress on the seating. Is this mostly a cosmetic mod since you’ve got the FMI?
Hey can you tell me where you saw people talking about dents? I didn't notice dents until I after i installed mine and theres like 4 huge dents on it but I dont think there is anyway I could have caused it.
It was on Facebook. Basically little dents at the spots where the screw stalks are. If you tighten it even a LITTLE bit it pulls the plastic down causing a dent to appear on the other side.
To be honest , the black hood scoop makes the car look panda-like. Not a fan, but maybe thats what your going for? In addition, it probably would have been a good idea to put some touch up paint on thoses chips caused by that hood scoop.
I love the panda / storm trooper look. It's been the inspiration for the car the whole time. As for the chips, the rest of the car is covered with them. This car has seen a lot of action and speed so I don't mind.
Had to run outside an take mine off an check after seeing this mine didn't mess up the paint at all but probably cause I got a professional gaphine coat an took the stock hood scoop off for them todo it I still have to but my replacement bulge hood scoop on tho since my first one is all messed up but I'll definitely put some wheather stripping on the 2nd one when installed me over tightening the first could be why it didn't mess it up also tho they said that's why mine dented on top even tho it was only hand tight but I guess I didn't account for me doing construction an my hand tight more than normal
I'm glad you had a coating. It doesn't bother me as much but I can see it being an issue for some. Flatline_WRX actually gave me a great idea to try, butyl tape or plastidip the bottom of the scoop.
@HeavyMetalWRX yeah I'll look into that also cause I definitely don't want it messing up my paint being a black car an everything's showing an already spending so much for paint correction an coating
@@JoshDillon-lm3hw just getting on the highway here messes up my paint so I just gave up. Plus I have a 5 yo and she has been the source of most of my scratches 😭😭
It's not the kind of foam that soaks water. It's actually thick and made for cosplay and stuff (so it doesn't soak up sweat and stuff like that). Either way I think I'll need another solution. I'm on the right track though. They should just make the scoop better imo 🤣
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Bottom line: maybe Subaru and their BFF Toyota might know a bit more about R&D and aerodynamics than these aftermarket body panel/dresss-up part makers out there.
dont give them so much credit i work in the paint shop for stellantis all auto companies have issues that we find out about later that we then go back an address things like this are overlooked easily.
I'm supposed to walnut blast the carbon buildup in my intake valves every 20,000 miles thanks to Subaru's absolute failure to mitigate a very common problem in their GDI engines. They are not the leading edge of design and function by any means.
You could stick some of that rubber door protector stripping around the circumference of the scoop. It’s a long U-channel so ya wouldn’t need to use double sided tape. 💡
I think that the weather stripping on the stock scoop is there to prevent this issue. Whenever I see something that is OEM, even if it doesn't make sense at the time, I still try to replicate that on aftermarket parts. It wouldn't make any sense for it to be a water seal when the scoop itself freely let's water in. It's painted and clear coated. It won't rust. I think you had the right idea I will just try to add the weather stripping to my scoop but I didn't go with this one. I just got the OEM + one from another site. Haven't isntalled it yet so we will see if I can avoid scratching all together. Also, side note, the paint on this car is so ridiculously soft that I am probably just gonna wrap mine. You can look at this paint the wrong way and it scratches.
Yea it's also the OEM one airs inside the hole for the scoop whereas the aftermarket one is just physically bigger and sits on top of the hood. Any vibration was gonna cause this issue.
Amen. Mine is garaged and only driven in good weather. No rain. Foam cannon and careful gentle washing and still small swirl marks. I'm very meticulous and still this paint is so sensitive.
Yes, the paint is terrible on these cars. I'm very disappointed with the chips and scratches
Your posts are nothing but positive, keep them coming.
I appreciate it! We're all in this together 🤘
I can understand how some people might be upset by this, but I'm like you. Little stuff like that doesn't bother me. I drive my car, I expect it to get knicked and dings.
Plus they look fucking good imo
So, is it holding up still, or is it problematic? And, that looks like the Noble. ?
I am a part of the same FB group. There are also posts elsewhere about this issue. I feel like this is avoidable at the time of install. Now to be fair, this should not have to be the case, but your solution of a foam gasket is one way. an alternative option would be thin strips of 3m clear protective film. I would put it around the rim of the part and around the rim of the hood.
Yea My foam idea is the right direction but I need to go further. Flatline_WRX suggested some Butyl tape so I'm going to try that next.
WHY NOT USE A THINNER 3M DOUBLE SIDED TAPE FOR THE FRONT AND SIDES AND DOUBE UP THAT SAME TAPE FOR THE BACK PORTION CLOSEST TO DRIVER ?? WHEN COMBINED WITH THE FASTENERS WOULD THIS NOT PREVENT RATTLING WHICH LEADS TO SMALL PAINT CHIPS ?
Thank you for the info, I would like to see the scoop without the plastic mesh. Looking forward to the next vids.
im going to put 1/4 wide 2 sided 3m tape all around on the bottom outer edge of this scoop,not the side like original when i get it and not peel the other side so i can move it in place to align the screws.This is the issue is the bulge scoop sits on the hood,not down in the hood like the original so you have to raise it.
how about laying down some painters tape to wrap the entire perimeter of the opening? that might work.. thinking about getting this scoop myself, looks awesome.
This is not a guarantee or a solution, clear bra for the hood/front, this will also help out to protect against rock chips too. I also have a 3 year ceramic coating for the rest of the car as well. This is by no means within everyone'd budget. I just feel at peace knowing the paint has some protection against the everyday environment. If you like to tailgate though this might not be the greatest protection but who can avoid tiny rocks on the highway or roads when you have 1 lane or see them coming on the highway/interstate.
Thank you for making this before I installed my scoop. Please do a follow up to see if the foam or other solutions help, I'd love to have this scoop, but not worth damaging the hood imo
I saw that they have the foam. I'll ask and see about doing a follow-up to the follow up.
I'm in the same FB group, i have the solar orange VB that got the wrong color scoop. (blue)
With a lot of back and forth about the subject on the group, i think I'm going to leave mine alone; i have not checked mine. Ours is a DD...i agree on the rock chips, i have so many that IDGAF anymore 😂 as it's pretty much unavoidable because she's a DD. Besides, too much removal and installing of the included scketchy screws will murder those plastic threads in no time making things worse. Mine seems to be secured so I worry more about the cheap hardware coming loose or worse, scoop flying off while driving. I'll be checking periodically to make sure its still on there properly.
Dude, I can't believe you even got the wrong color. It was an honest mistake but was funny and irritating nonetheless. I do believe the dimples is an issue and the fact that it scratches your hood is an issue. I also believe that it is blown out of proportion when people say their hood is absolutely ruined. I did get a chance to talk to you the people over at Noble and they told me that a fix is coming.
Hey! Nice content since day1.
Did you solve this problem? I put foam tape and still got damage. Trying low friction next. Let me know!
I actually took my scoop off the other day and it was fine. Just the few scrapes i had mo that ago and nothing new. Tbh it's not something that's visible. I wouldn't worry about, infeotauntely, that's the rinly new answer I have.
Yeah mine are pretty bad, I remove mine and put my oem back oem till I receive the low fricton tape and with the oem scoop you see all the damage because its smaller
Glad i was able to find you on the FB groups! Great content! 💯
Appreciate it you making it to the channel! We have 13k members , I should have 13k subs 😂😂
@@HeavyMetalWRX all these differrnt social medias, i sometimes forget to add, follow subscribe etc. I just subscribed here tho 😁👍
@@diemf50I appreciate it! You were sub # 4700. Also, you're telling me. I am bad at keeping up with my own socials. My social media manager, aka my wife, hasnt been helping me 😭😂
I saw a video that helps you make the hood fight tighter reducing the flex of the hood which may help .. I need to go find that video but… I think there are rubber stoppers on the frame or hood that u can twist like a screw and it helps with the flex ..
Did you happen to find that video?
@@44actual I have not looked however it’s a simple fix … there are what look like rubber bushings/ u er the hood the act like screws , they can be turned or crest more or less resistant… there either oh inside of hood or frame of engine bay where the hood meets the car
I went to home depot and got some 1/4" weather strip and worked fine, it was pretty much a thing to install from the get go, don't want scratches on the car ? Don't drive the car or install aftermarket parts and complain about the road debri 😂
I feel like the stock one let’s more air in
Yea I believe it may but I don't have a great way of testing it. Actually I just thought of a great way to test it haha
@@HeavyMetalWRX you have the front mount ic so your good with air where you need it I have the cobb top mount so I need the air through that scoop the screen in the aftermarket scoop to me seems that it could let less air to the wide open stock hood scoop
@@HeavyMetalWRX your doing a great job with your channel bro keep it up in scally trying to get into it a little more I made a couple of new videos
I had the same xoncern when I bought it but I'd definitely say it doesn't let less thru but it's not alot more since I had to buy a 2nd I'm going to mess with the one I fd up an try finding a better mesh to put in but it's definitely nice opening the hood an tons of leaves an bugs not stuck to intercooler
what is the exhaust setup that you had , it sounds too good
All my NVH classes say your on the right track 👍
Adjust your bulge, bro.
Sounds so wrong 😂
keep it on for 2 years and look at the damage... 3m tape? Its probably vibrating / ocilating so fast you dont see it, and that is rubbing the paint off over time.
Could just be looks but the oem looks alot more sturdy.
So for my bulge scoop I will try that left over 3m tape I got from my duck bill. Let you know how that goes. You gave me so good idea on what I can do.
What about adding some clear protective film around the edge of the scoop??
Got my afd coming today. They claim they add weather stripping and 3 m i think. Hope it works
just ordered the hood scoop buldge and this popped up in my recommended.
how thick is the foam you've used? I'm looking at amazon for a 2mm and a 5mm
Import image racing actually has a little kit they send you. I think the foam I had was half inch but it's whatever I had around the house.
You can buy adhesive foam gasket at Lowes. Rolls off like tape.
Might need to dig a bit deeper into this situation.
just thr facts of new parts for new cars. they'll get it right eventually.
It's true...and we all run out to get em first so we're the test dummies 😭
my stock scoop bounces around quite a bit on its own. I’d imagine the increased drag and high center of mass on the bulge scoop is putting quite a bit of stress on the seating. Is this mostly a cosmetic mod since you’ve got the FMI?
Yea it's just cosmetic. The whole Dman hood and front end is a bouncy mess. With coilovers now it just bounces because of the stiffness haha
Heavy Metal 🤟 hell yeah brother!
Hey can you tell me where you saw people talking about dents? I didn't notice dents until I after i installed mine and theres like 4 huge dents on it but I dont think there is anyway I could have caused it.
It was on Facebook. Basically little dents at the spots where the screw stalks are. If you tighten it even a LITTLE bit it pulls the plastic down causing a dent to appear on the other side.
I hand tighten mine and I still got two dimples, but most people don’t notice it and it’s hard to see in pictures
Keep the uploads coming. Vinyl Wrap the hood with extra vinyl going under the hood scoop lip. 🤷♂️
That's something I was thinking about for people who are super concerned. I'm not that worried about it , tbh.
I used Duck auto and marine rubber weatherstrip from auto zone.
My scoop came with dimples. I tried loosing the screws a bit underneath the scoop , and had no luck :(
Oh no!!! Dude who did you get it from? Id get a refund or replacement.
@@HeavyMetalWRXimport image racing. However , is this a common issue ? Just be extra gentle with tightening?
I would have used felt tape
Well I 'felt' like using foam. BA DUM TIS 🤣
@@HeavyMetalWRX 😂 that's a hell of a one "liner"
I tried, okay? 😅
@@Nonx47 lmaoooo you did perfectly. I'm proud 🥹🥹
@@HeavyMetalWRX 🫡
Subaru has very thin paint on the hood from the factory
I'd try a 3M double sided foam roll.
Thsnks for this. Good content
I appreciate it!
thanks for posting good content
Thank you for the support 🤘
To be honest , the black hood scoop makes the car look panda-like. Not a fan, but maybe thats what your going for? In addition, it probably would have been a good idea to put some touch up paint on thoses chips caused by that hood scoop.
I love the panda / storm trooper look. It's been the inspiration for the car the whole time. As for the chips, the rest of the car is covered with them. This car has seen a lot of action and speed so I don't mind.
Well good for you! It just seems a little condescending that's all.
Dood!!! What was your cosplay idea???
I used to stream on twitch in cosplay for a year. I just had some left over.
Had to run outside an take mine off an check after seeing this mine didn't mess up the paint at all but probably cause I got a professional gaphine coat an took the stock hood scoop off for them todo it I still have to but my replacement bulge hood scoop on tho since my first one is all messed up but I'll definitely put some wheather stripping on the 2nd one when installed me over tightening the first could be why it didn't mess it up also tho they said that's why mine dented on top even tho it was only hand tight but I guess I didn't account for me doing construction an my hand tight more than normal
I'm glad you had a coating. It doesn't bother me as much but I can see it being an issue for some. Flatline_WRX actually gave me a great idea to try, butyl tape or plastidip the bottom of the scoop.
@HeavyMetalWRX yeah I'll look into that also cause I definitely don't want it messing up my paint being a black car an everything's showing an already spending so much for paint correction an coating
@@JoshDillon-lm3hw just getting on the highway here messes up my paint so I just gave up. Plus I have a 5 yo and she has been the source of most of my scratches 😭😭
Does it help or improve hp tq etc?
@@Penguion0510 It is just cosmetic
Sigh....Full carbon hood I must buy? 😅
Lol you won't get the HUGE BULGE though
foam will become a sponge bad idea rusty
It's not the kind of foam that soaks water. It's actually thick and made for cosplay and stuff (so it doesn't soak up sweat and stuff like that). Either way I think I'll need another solution. I'm on the right track though. They should just make the scoop better imo 🤣
That's why you never buy version 1.0. N-1 is better lol.