I am getting a lot of comments about the R colors. Just like I said in the video all cameras are set to manual white balance K6500 and processed with Canon Digital Professional. All cameras are calibrated straight from Canons factory. It’s a fair comparison and I always noticed the R to have more green colors. That was the main reason I didn’t get it personally when it came out. If you have the R and love it that’s awesome, I am not surprised because it’s still an amazing camera even thou it got the last rating from me personally.
Спасибо вам за обзор,очень немногие блогеры затрагивают тему цвета из коробки в камерах Canon и почти никто не использует руднуюю DPP для проявки,а напрасно только там можно получить фирменный цвет с родными профилями. По своим наблюдениям заметил(а у меня были на руках из беззеркалок R,R6,R5 и почти все зеркальные пятаки) Если отталкиваться от цвета старых зеркальных canon 5d (1,2,3) а по моему мнению из коробки там цвет был красивей ничего править не нужно было даже ББ отрабатывал отлично,то ближе всех сейчас Canon r6 как ни странно,но именно по цвету он мне больше нравился чем r5,почему то в r5 общий баланс цветов уходит в пурпур или фиолет все время нужно править ББ.У r6 всегда стабильнее, единственное на закатном солнце он немного уходит в зененцу,но правиться легче,чем r5, r самая неудачная по цвету из беззеркалок Canon.
You should be able to fix the colors by using color calibration charts on any camera. Rarely any camera knows the colors which is dependable on the lightings color spectrum and quality.
I actually prefer warmer colors. I have the R. How would I adjust the color temp on my custom settings to remove the green tint. Move it more to the magenta?
I remember going from my Canon rebel t6 to a brand new RP and I was SO proud and so many people said I wasted my money, I was going to hate it, I should have just waited and saved my money for a better one and as much as the R5 would be amazing, the RP has seriously impressed me and I love mine so much! Thank you for actually testing it out and not just over looking it because it's "the cheap one"
This is where I'm at. I currently shoot with a t5 and I'm thinking my next upgrade will be the RP. Maybe when I'm better and can afford it I'll splurge. So you would recommend jumping from rebel to RP?
I've been using my RP for a couple of years, and I've been very impressed with it! I've recently started getting more into wedding photography, so I'm currently looking to buy a second body.
The truth is, our eyes can distinguish up to 20-22 stops of dynamic ranges. But our brains can only read 10 stops of DR at a time. So you’ll never see too much of a difference between higher DR camera’s to a lower DR unless you’re going to pixel/image peeps.
I thought the same, although I may keep it as a back up, it doesn't offer the same shutter speed capabilities I've realized I also need. It does keep up amazingly well, it looks great in comparison to to the R6!
I've been shooting with the RP for 12+ months yet & I've never felt like it's held me back on any of the shoots I've been hired for. I recommend it to anyone who asks about jumping up to Full Frame
I've done a few shoots with the Canon EOS RP and both times I've been impressed with the performance of it. It really is a great camera for the money! But that R5 thooo 👀👀👀
@@IreneRudnyk It is so good to see good comparisons like this. I got the RP and at the time I was a bit regretful for going with the 24-105mm L version over the R and the regular 24-105mm but looking back now, Im glad I did. Although I do more video than photography it continues to impress me.
Thanks for doing this video. I shoot with the R and RP. I made the decision to concentrate on investing in RF glass rather than changing camera bodies. I have no plans on upgrading any bodies until I’ve used the R and RP for at least 5 years.
@@IreneRudnyk Wish this was emphasized in the video - that RF 85 makes any body a hero, and the inverse of a crappy lens ruining a top camera also holds true
Nice to see the RP get some love for a change! While my mains are R5/R6, I grab my RP for travel, or taking photos of my 1 year old around the house. It’s probably my most used camera these days. Whenever any hobbyist asks me what full frame to get, I always recommend the RP for the price and versatility.
RP looks amazing in this comparison and I guessed it to the first photo. And most importantly, this comparison shows that the dynamic range is not much worse than others, and the color rendition is one of the best. On R6 I liked the detail, despite the fact that it has the lowest resolution. R5 looks great, but in my opinion, it is better to spend these extra $ 2500 on a good lens.
I’ve had the RP for a year now and absolutely love how small and light it is. Great for travel. For video the 35mm rf is lens is excellent and the dual pixel autofocus is buttery smooth. I only shoot 1080 24fps so that’s all I care about. Favorite portrait lens is an adapted 135mm Contax 2.8 Sonnar. Also use an adapter 40mm Summicron which is almost too small of a package but gives unique images. An adapted 50mm Summicron is the perfect package to me for stills.
I've just upgraded from the R to R5 - both great cameras really and the image quality of the R is comparable to that of the 5d-mk4 let's not forget! A good photographer will get great images from both (and a bad photographer...). What I like about the R5 though is the ergonomics with the joy stick and quick control dial, and as someone who crops a lot (street photography), the 45 mp is helpful! The IBIS is also helpful in using the super lightweight lenses like the 50mm STM, which doesn't have in-lens stability. I'm sure in a year's time we'll be hearing about how the R5c or R3 (or whatever) is the new must-have, but I think if you're happy with any of the R's, then best focus on the photography than the equipment and enjoy!
We have the R and R5. We too found the colour shift seemed weighted to green on the R so we adjusted the white balance offset in the camera (under Camera icon, menu item 4) to ad a little magenta. We shot with a colour checker chart. Rather than use a LR preset, we found this to be a more convenient option.
I have the R5 and the R. Both work well for my needs (wildlife/birds) I haven't really noticed the colour issue with my R but it was a later model. I like the R for it's 30 meg images, which is always helpful for cropping in. The R5 is superb and the R is great as a second body. Thanks for all your great videos Irene, I love that you focus more on getting the image you want than all the tech aspects of gear, and your results are beautiful.
I've owned and shot commercially with R, RP and 5D4. Results in this video do not correlate at all for me shooting thousands of images. For me EOS R first for overall photos and video, 5D4 second and RP third. Not sure where the green tint in the R is coming from here, I've never experienced it. I'm looking forward to trying the R6. Thanks for your video.
@@Sayject It is most likely the "Portrait" mode Picture Style she was using. Easily corrected but why not just change the EOS R 's picture style to Faithful or Autumn Hue or even back to Standard.
I got the RP three years ago and it has been wonderful. My only complaints are: lower battery life due to LP-E17 vs LP-E6; having to use a bypass cable for vertical shutter release (and only 3rd party battery grips available); no vertical oriented scroll wheel on those battery grips; and your hand size may require the official grip-only accessory that adds 2cm to the bottom. OTHERWISE, IT PRODUCES EXCELLENT IMAGES. Third-party EF-RF adapters are $50, sometimes even with the function ring included. (Don't be suckered into buying the official Canon one unless you need perfect weather sealing I suppose. It all works the same.)
Thanks Irene, I have just purchased an RP (purely as it was the least expensive of the four) and it is great to see your comparison. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Two card slots aren't necessary, but they can be handy. One time I was shooting a fashion show and they also wanted it shot in JPG and wanted the photos between the sets. Two slots allowed me to shoot JPG to one card and RAW to the other. Then I could hand off the JPG card between sets and drop in a newly formatted card for next set (while keeping the RAWs all on a larger card that stayed in the camera). After the show, I had RAWs, which allowed me to fully edit the shots for my own portfolio.
I just bought the RP a few weeks ago and I love it! So far I only have the 50mm with it, but soon I'll expand to the 35mm and 85mm too. I also have a Blackmagic Pocket 4K for video so that side of the RP didn't really bothered me. This video makes me happy and feel like I made the perfect choice thank you :)
Awesome comparison, I think the RP punches WELL above its weight, I use it as my main camera with the R as a backup usually, (yes I would like the R6 a LOT! ) I would be interested to add the M6.ii into this mix, personally I think that its on a par with these cameras although obviously a different form factor,
Great overview! I am thinking some of the color differences might simply be slightly different auto-white balance or even that the light changed slightly between shots and the auto-white balance simply did a different interpretation of the white point. Or did you shoot everything at at the same white balance? Anyway, I just ordered a Canon RP to get a taste of the Canon RF system - I love the ergonomics compared to Sony.
I did a comparison using another reviewer raw files and I could reproduce the green cast when using fixed white balance. When using the camera auto the R5 was actually greener than the R. It was pretty easy to match them by tweaking a little bit the white balance : imgur.com/a/Nr3YfIa
Im blown away canon rp on second place…got RP 2 weeks ago… and im really happy with it..coming from Nikon D7500…really love the mirror less and full frame
I just got my R5 + 70-200 RF 2.8... Every time i get a picture, I am amazed from the quality this camera is able to produce...!!! Thank you CANON - I love you!
I will switch to R6 at the end of the year and some rf lenses to go with. The R5 is amazing but the price difference is too high for what the R6 already offers and even I would like to have a bit more options to crop images as I photograph wildlife and zoo animals often I don't really need images that big for it and they just need to much space on my cards and so on anyway.
@@robertmueller6979 the 100-500 is definitely on my list to get with the R6. That's sounds amazing. As I breed exotic moth species this is good to hear about.
@@franninchen .. If you buy the EF adapter ring just get the plain $100 one. The R6 has 3 dials on it to control aperture, shutter and ISO. No need for another ring. I bought the adapter with control ring for $200 and never use the ring. I'd also get the EF-S 55-250mm STM for video and moths. Much easier to hold, super sharp for insect photography and you can shoot right at your feet. The 100-500mm can shoot pretty close but not that close.. The R6 can use both EF and EF-S lenses and automatically adjusts the crop.... )
@@robertmueller6979 at the moment I use the 90d with the 55-250mm STM for my insect and zoo photos. So far I only rented L lenses and the 5D Mark IV for special occasions but after 8 years and photography still my main hobby it is time for the investment and upgrade. I still like my APSC kit for times when I want to travel light weight. The extra ring on the adapter is also something I don't need. I like to use the display or control buttons more anyway.
@@franninchen ... Yea. I had to make a decision myself. "is this my hobby?". My wife made me ask myself that question. Then she said "Good. I just bought the R6 and 100-500mm". I about died when I saw the lens price. Made me physically ill. "What possessed you?" I asked. "I got tired of you constantly talking about the R6. Shut up and shoot." ..I said "You forgot the ring"... lol... I really need to start checking our bank account... )
I have to admit this review was better than I expected. So many just talk (literally talk and not much else) about specs. It was nice to see some normal real world use. I've been leaning toward the R6 as an upgrade, but am concerned about the heating issues being mentioned all over the internet. Did you experience any issues with overheating?
It's solid in size and weight, too! Very comfortable to travel with it and just keep it in your backpack if you get a small lens like the RF 50mm f/1.8.
to me it's one of the best real life comparaison of image quality for those cameras. thank you! I have the RP and the 70D. the ISO is the main difference, you can push the RP to 12800 iso and it's still better than the 70D at 1600 iso
Great review Irene. Respect to the real world comparison. It's basically what matters most to anyone trying to decide which camera to buy rather than specs only comparisons which most people do. A little more comparisons with one or two different lenses would be appreciated. Cheers again for the wonderful review. 🥂
I have the EOS R, after your video I looked at my photos both RAW and Edited and I didn’t find them as green as your camera. Possible that you may have a damaged sample of the EOS R
I don’t, I have actually used two different bodies over the time and they both have this colour. You probably just don’t notice the difference. You really see it in the comparison
WOW Honestly, I will go with the RP pictures any time any day. I love the color rendition coming out from that little thing and surprisingly that is the cheapest of them all. But, must ppl will love the mega pixels/Build quality of the R5 camera. Great work by the way, blessings!
I'm so glad I watched this. I've been debating which camera to upgrade to and I do a lot of outdoor photography in green areas. The rp seems to be the best option for me right now. Next upgrade will be the r5
Great comparison video. The EOS-R has been my main camera for over a year now and I have not experienced the greenish tint issue. I just got an RP as a backup. I hope the R6 goes on sale around Christmas 😆
I went with the R6 because it has a small megapixel count which is better for lowlight. I’m a wedding photographer so this is very important to me. Additionally the CF cards for the R5 are ridiculously expensive.
Um dos melhores e mais sinceros reviews que eu já vi, sem imparcialidade e com o setup de cada câmera, ainda com o bônus da edição. Fiquei triste com os resultados da R, e de a R6 ter ficado em 3*, o lado bom é que mesmo com apenas 20mp não falta qualidade de imagem, confesso que esperava mais resolução da R5, mas também me pareceu a melhor quase sempre. A surpresa do vídeo foi a RP, tem menos recursos é claro, mas em qualidade de imagem não deve nada as outras. Ótimo vídeo. Fiz uma redação aqui, socorro. Kkkk
@@MayankNimbalkar I use the R for video and landscapes. Just shoot raw and use gray card or a color calibration card and you can correct/grade the colors to your liking
Couple of other tips here: If you shoot jpg and just want to use auto white balance you can go in in the cameras menu and tweak the colors toward blue and red, don’t overdo it and do some testing. It’s under the camera icon menu and fourth tab called WB Correction. Now you will have a cooler tone or maybe more neutral tone applied to every shot or video. And if you shoot in raw it’s easy piece to correct in post with a cooler tone in white balance tool and maybe at a bit of magenta in white balance tool as well. Hope it helps.
@@martinekwall4671 i h'v r n i do color colabration in side it.. So i do ave pb with wb I love r body more options than rp For rp 20 m.b. can compare with, 30 or more
Great comparison video Irene! I’m looking to investing in a mirrorless full frame camera - and for the price and quality- The Canon RP looks like my decision. Thank you for making great content!
I actually mixed up the RP and R5 photo guesses at 3:15... I use an R5 at my day job (marketing/multimedia production) and it is awesome. I used to have the R because it was the only thing decent out at the time from canon and the RF lenses looked juicy. 3 years later, I convinced my boss to upgrade for the uncropped 4k, 4k 120fps, in-body stabilization, and 8k. The 45mp is awesome but the file sizes are 55mb for uncompressed RAW. Eeeek! If you can afford it, definitely get the R5 as it will last quite a while with the specs it has.
Personally I believe that your Eos R has some kind of defect when it comes to color saturation… I have never had that issue with mine neither my friend and coworker which both of us shoot with the eos R. Apparently that specific camera you’re using has some type of sensor issues. When it comes to the R line, when you’re using the same lens in all of them, Canon has made sure that almost 98% of the photos taken with look very similar in terms of quality of course..,and that one you’re using is more on the green side that any other ones I have use or seen. Beautiful work by the way. Kudos to you Irene..😉
Daniel, Adobe LR ruins camera colors accidentally many times, but the older ones I think they are ruined on purpose. Try capture one, my 15 year old 5D performs as the new ones in terms of color accuracy
Those were my thoughts too, the colors of her R are so different then the colors on my R, i've also used the RP, and the colors looks almost identical...
I replace my sony a77 and got a Canon R. I am a new Canon user so I went for this one. It was on offer and got a discount on it. It really good camera and when using it for a fashion and boudoir shoot. I cannot see any green in the images or video shoot. I am using it for indoor shoots with natural light or studio lights. I just got this last year. It came with a kit lens to see how it works. I love it. The most important one I needed is using iso which I can go higher than my Sony which can only go 16000. The only thing I noticed was the noise that easily sees in darker areas of the image when using high ISO. This camera works for me. In the future, I am looking for another camera for video. I am thinking r6 or r5. For this camera am thinking to get a wide-angle lens for a video shoot. Sandeep Patel
First of all, I should say this, the model is so beatiful. Second, I wanna say my opinion about these cameras. Without considering price, R5>R6>R>RP R5 shows the most natural images among them. So that's first position. R6 shows accurate AF and bright feeling, and very good quality in low light. RP shows good color but if situation is not the best, then quality goes down sharply. So thats the last position. R is not excellent, but not bad. Just so so.
This is no secret that some photographers crave the vintage styling of cameras and also the film-look in images. We do get the film-look in the images produced by Canon 5D Classic. However, the retro-styling is something unavailable to current Canon camera users. Nikon enchanted its users with Nikon Df few years ago and now, Nikon Z fc. I’m simply awestruck how beautiful those cameras look! How about Canon thinking in the same line and present us with few such styles like the great Canon AE-1!
I currently have the RP and it's a great camera and even paired with the kit lens I've been able to produce amazing results. But of course I've felt like I've pushed my current gear to it's limits and as my skills and knowledge get better it comes to a point where I have to start saving for better lenses and cameras. I'm eyeballing the R5, everything it offers for photo and all of it's amazing video features. definitely want that 120fps.
Wow! This was great! I sold my EOS R and had been thinking about the R5. This pretty much nailed the choice down for me, but I'm also tempted to get an EOS RP as a backup just because of your comparison. And you pointing out the color-tone differences really opened my eyes! Thanks for your video!
Ancient, long-retired pro from the film days here, turned amatuer. This is interesting! I have both, the R and R5, and I'm guessing others do as well. I had intended on doing a test similar to yours (fixed kelvin), not to compare cameras, but to look at color variation between my vintage and modern lenses (Leica R, Zeiss Contax, old Nikon workhorse from my working days, and modern Canon including the 85mm RF). Adding a comparison between the bodies now makes sense to see if the results are the same. Anyone questioning the results you encountered can also do the same (and should, before questioning them IMHO). I'm going to try your test with my two cameras, using the same settings and Canon software (then compare the raw files in Capture One). Many of us are familiar with sample variation in lenses (to be expected) but with bodies? I've not contemplated the possibility before (and have not seen others, either), but that would, indeed, be something interesting to find out. And then, this becomes another item for comparing brands as the variation within the Canon line is eye-opening. Of particular interest, many of us probably remember when fixed lighting (both, LED and fluorescent designed for photography) was relatively new, and threw a horrible green cast. Technology has gotten better these days, mitigating the green unpleasantness. But if the results you found bear out, this is particularly interesting for those who use LED or even now-outdated fluorescent photography bulbs (5600K). I.e., if the camera is contributing to a green cast, it can add effort to post, and then, completely eliminating a green cast may come at the expense of other colors leaving less than optimal results (speculating this point). In any event, thank you for this very interesting, excellent, and eye-opening comparison. I've been watching your vids from time to time for many years. You have a great touch and produce astounding results... consistently.
@@IreneRudnyk Had a "duh" moment last night thinking about this. Your observations are correct, but there's an explanation--and it's not a problem with the EOS R. Since I'm not a content producer, setting up the experiment to show what happened will take some time--I'll explain now, then when I do get to it (testing lenses anyway) I'll share a link. Back in the film days we could get unwanted color casts from light reflection off nearby objects. In particular, very green settings (green grass, shubs, trees, etc.) would through a color cast onto the color negative film--a cast that had to be corrected during printing. I remembered this after recalling some green screen work with my daughter. Though I had a strong K5600 light on her as the subject, the amount of green spill reflecting forward off the green screen was problematic. I tried to move her as far forward as possible, but it remained a challenge nonetheless. So why does the R5 look better? Well, this makes me smile. The early complaints about the R5 mentioned that it was too magenta (relatively speaking). If a picture is too green, how to color correct? Add magenta. And, walaa... Did those clever color science engineers at Canon decide to alter (perhaps ever-so-slightly) the color science so that pics taken in green environments look better? Taking outdoor pics in a garden environment is rather popular. I guess this is the conspiracy theory in me making such a silly guess. But what holds, is that your natural environment is quite green (beautiful for pics, but green, nonetheless). Thus, the "bad" magenta shift in the R5 actually serves to counterbalance a greenish tint emanating from the foliage. This is not a problem with the EOS R, but perhaps a clever tweak with the R5 (me guessing). The best way to avoid color shifts with electronic sensors is to white balance with an 18% grey card--but the white balance must adjusted at the subject location. I.e., taking the WB closer to the ground will cause a stronger green shift and camera compensation, and closer to open sky (relative to the subject) will cause a bluer shift (and camera compensation). Thus, the most accurate color balance should be set at face-level with the subject. And then, if lighting changes (clouds shifting, time of day, or moving the subject) a new white balance adjustment will be required. Or save the fuss and fix it in post using RAW files. Anyway, this was a good brain teaser, and I'm pretty sure a controlled test could be set up to confirm the results. When I eventually do such a test, I'll use a gray card so that actual levels could be observed with vectorscopes in post. Keep up the outstanding work, and thanks again for doing this comparison.
Interested comparisons and you do such a great job 👍These modern cameras renders the world beautifully. You also had a fantastic lens😉 I have two R and that yellow I saw here was a lot more than I get. Though I use Capture One and they have superb camera profiles that doesn’t have that yellow tint. Per my experience is that Adobe isn’t that exact when it comes to colors from each camera but one can get there with PS. ... now I saw you used DPP. Yeah, remember every raw converter has it’s own look of colors and contrast and even between cameras as we saw here. It’s programmed by people with their ideas and not necessarily always “correct”. Thank goodness to all the companies that makes raw converters and gives us so many possibilities to tweak the photos as we prefer.
I have the R5 and looking to complete the system with a second camera (shooting landscape with a pair of RF lenses), currently choosing between R6 and RP - looking for best overall performance. You said you personally went with R5+R6 but gave the RP the second place nonetheless. From the sample images, it's not entirely clear which one is best - but the autofocus + video capabilities seem to clearly put the R6 as the better overall option. Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks!
I second that. Personally I feel like the R6 does everything the R5 does unless the user a) produces lots of large prints or b) needs 8k video. But the R6 is literally half the price where I'm from (this is used prices for both).
I have the Canon RP and it continues to amaze me at what is does for the price point. My goto lens is the 24-105 kit lens. Would like to have the R5 👀👀👀. The color on the R all appear off - lots of green color on the model’s skin for some reason
I think the color on the R can be easily corrected by changing the Picture Style to FAITHFUL or AUTUUM HUE or even Standard. She seems to be using the "Portrait" Picture style
Irene - serious suggestion/challenge for a video: Do your next "photoshoot" using R5 in short 8K video clips. No stills. Then back at the desk, pull the perfect frame from the video and do your edit. This sort of thing has been talked about for years, and now with 8K i wonder if it's possible. Is there enough resolution that this is practical? What programs would be used to pull this off with best results?
The resolution is plenty but the issue is motion blur and hard drive space. You'll likely be at 1/60th shutter speed since 30fps is the max for 8k video and R5 video codec is very inefficient, file size will be massive.
Had my r6 for a couple of years and love it.For me the eye af was a game changer.Have been tempted with the r5 but will wait a while for a camera upgrade.Love your work and your editing is beautiful.Also the rf 85 1.2 is my favourite lens.
I will be selling my 5d iv because of this and get. another rp, way to go Irene, we actually did have the same observation that rp is actually an underrated camera. Well, it really also depends on who's using these awesome gears! Thank you Irene! Much love❤️
I have the EOS R and EOS R5. Haven’t used the R much since getting the R5, which is simply nicer to use, is more capable and delivers superior image quality.
moment of silent for those who use canon eos 90d like me .Can see all professions photographers have migrated to mirror less cameras, plain to switch into canon r6 that the one I can afford right now
the R6 just shines here photo and video! but when you showed the last set of photos then you made us realize that you are magician! :-D so confused! love your videos here keep em posting!
Seeing so many technical videos on Canon's R lineup and comparisons, you start to lose focus on the art of photography and the qualities of each. I went from a Digital Rebel in '04 to a 6D in 2015 to an M50 last June(mainly to use it for Zoom w/Canon EOS Webcam Utility) to the RP in August. During Covid, I've been able to do more travel than I used to. And the results I get with the RP and the ease of use over a DSLR and the just amazing quality of RF glass, I've been very happy. I'm building up my collection of lenses and maybe I'll get an R5 in the next year or two.
I own an RP and the R5 I wish they would do more firmware upgrades on the RP though. It's the most comfortable camera I've held. Obviously the R5 is my main body.
I own all 4 and the RP is the camera that goes everywhere with me since it is light, compact, and… cheap/expendable! Which means i fear not for its survival and have no reservations of putting it into harm’s way or shady situations (like late night street photography) where a red-ringed R5/R6 would get too much attention. Paired with the RF 50 1.8, EF 40mm 2.8, or EF 85mm 1.8 are my favorite configurations that are stealthy as well as capable. I also keep an RP unstrapped and clipped into my belt as my backup, C camera that usually holds a prime or ultrawide when I’m dual strapping my 28-70 and 70-200. It’s so small and light but still capable - It’s a great utility body and a great way to start full frame since it will be backwards and forward compatible and viable for years to come. Now if the RP used the LP-E6 instead of the inferior LP-E17 it would be the perfect value proposition
I upgraded from a T5i to an RP when it 1st launch so yea I paid $1200 but damn i couldn't be more happy to have it. R6 looks amazing but I don't like the 20mp censor, like the RP has more than d R6 but its just me, its a great camera doh. Nice video Irene.
Nice comparison! Great! ... I have two RP bodies ... I use them with the EF 50/1.2 and the EF 85/1.2 lenses. One lens for one body. No lens changing. No dirt inside. :-) The old EF lenses are not that sharp and have a lot of color fringing - but I like the look! And even because of that I'm old, too - my eyes are weak and the picture quality is more then perfect for me! :-)
Irene, thank you so much for doing this video. Lovely photos and very informative. Your video finally convinced me to buy an RP which I love. So, thank you again.
I do have an R6 and did already shoot with all the other cameras, for me the r5 is the winner but im sorry the R6 is clear the second... For the stabilisation, AF, video without getting hot, science colors... Just wanna ask you how do you work with CR3 in lightroom, its losses all the canon color science, please do a video with that... continue the amazing work
Canon and Adobe have almost stopped playing together in ICC profile synchronization. Therefore, editing CR3 on Lightroom or Camera Raw is not the most effective because it loses its original color. Currently I am using Captrue One and Canon Digital Professional to edit CR3 and the results are very good.
Yes its a shame, the supplied color profiles for the R5 and R6 are basically useless and look horrible. You can create your own profile with a color calibration device. Also, you can buy profiles for example from color fidelity. they are definitely better than what adobe supplies and improve things a lot. still they do not look as good as the camera jpegs color wise, but after a little tuning i am personaly okay with them.
I’m an R user and honestly have no issues with it, I’ve also shot with an R5 and honestly any of these mirrorless will do the job. There was no mention in the video if her monitor is calibrated which makes a big difference too. Assuming most everyone is shooting in RAW you will take your photos and tweak the coloring and make slight corrections with editing software where I will say that no one or serious or pro photographers are using files straight out of camera. I will eventually upgrade to the R5 or R6 but for now I’m very pleased with the results I get with the R
I can only compare the R and the R6 but i have returend the R6 to the vendor because i found the difference in terms of photographyand image quality so minor that i prefered the 30 MP over the improvements in the R6. Most of the features are great for video and only a small improvement for photos. I wait for another generation in the 3000$ Range and then check them again. But for now my almost 3 year old R is still my favorite camera. R5 is far to expensive for me so it does not count.
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I am getting a lot of comments about the R colors. Just like I said in the video all cameras are set to manual white balance K6500 and processed with Canon Digital Professional. All cameras are calibrated straight from Canons factory. It’s a fair comparison and I always noticed the R to have more green colors. That was the main reason I didn’t get it personally when it came out. If you have the R and love it that’s awesome, I am not surprised because it’s still an amazing camera even thou it got the last rating from me personally.
Спасибо вам за обзор,очень немногие блогеры затрагивают тему цвета из коробки в камерах Canon и почти никто не использует руднуюю DPP для проявки,а напрасно только там можно получить фирменный цвет с родными профилями. По своим наблюдениям заметил(а у меня были на руках из беззеркалок R,R6,R5 и почти все зеркальные пятаки) Если отталкиваться от цвета старых зеркальных canon 5d (1,2,3) а по моему мнению из коробки там цвет был красивей ничего править не нужно было даже ББ отрабатывал отлично,то ближе всех сейчас Canon r6 как ни странно,но именно по цвету он мне больше нравился чем r5,почему то в r5 общий баланс цветов уходит в пурпур или фиолет все время нужно править ББ.У r6 всегда стабильнее, единственное на закатном солнце он немного уходит в зененцу,но правиться легче,чем r5, r самая неудачная по цвету из беззеркалок Canon.
Aparently Canon improved the sensors a lot for the second generation, including dynamic range for the people that are into such kind of things0
Thanks for doing this test. Would you be able to do it again but do AWB-W and JPEGs?
You should be able to fix the colors by using color calibration charts on any camera. Rarely any camera knows the colors which is dependable on the lightings color spectrum and quality.
I actually prefer warmer colors. I have the R. How would I adjust the color temp on my custom settings to remove the green tint. Move it more to the magenta?
I remember going from my Canon rebel t6 to a brand new RP and I was SO proud and so many people said I wasted my money, I was going to hate it, I should have just waited and saved my money for a better one and as much as the R5 would be amazing, the RP has seriously impressed me and I love mine so much! Thank you for actually testing it out and not just over looking it because it's "the cheap one"
This is where I'm at. I currently shoot with a t5 and I'm thinking my next upgrade will be the RP. Maybe when I'm better and can afford it I'll splurge. So you would recommend jumping from rebel to RP?
amazing to hear! after 2 years, any update on your camera gear? still working with the rp?🤍
@@whitney_steelewhich one u are using currently
I've been using my RP for a couple of years, and I've been very impressed with it! I've recently started getting more into wedding photography, so I'm currently looking to buy a second body.
As an RP owner I'm actually shocked how well it held up to the others in dynamic range and image quality in real world situations
Same! What a great little camera the RP is ❤
The truth is, our eyes can distinguish up to 20-22 stops of dynamic ranges. But our brains can only read 10 stops of DR at a time. So you’ll never see too much of a difference between higher DR camera’s to a lower DR unless you’re going to pixel/image peeps.
I thought the same, although I may keep it as a back up, it doesn't offer the same shutter speed capabilities I've realized I also need. It does keep up amazingly well, it looks great in comparison to to the R6!
so glad I chose the RP over R, and half of the actual price
Its an amazing sleeper body and so cheap aside from the small battery it passes as a good B camera and even sometimes A
I've been shooting with the RP for 12+ months yet & I've never felt like it's held me back on any of the shoots I've been hired for. I recommend it to anyone who asks about jumping up to Full Frame
I've done a few shoots with the Canon EOS RP and both times I've been impressed with the performance of it. It really is a great camera for the money! But that R5 thooo 👀👀👀
I know! I was so surprised by it. I generally reach out for it all the time
@@IreneRudnyk It is so good to see good comparisons like this. I got the RP and at the time I was a bit regretful for going with the 24-105mm L version over the R and the regular 24-105mm but looking back now, Im glad I did. Although I do more video than photography it continues to impress me.
I got the RP as my first camera and have been very happy with my decision.
Yes I just got my hands on the r5. I started with the EOS R, moved to the R6 and now I’m using the R5.
The R5 is insane.
THE RP is soild. It's only drawback is video. If you don't care about video though, it's gonna be just dandy
Thanks for doing this video. I shoot with the R and RP. I made the decision to concentrate on investing in RF glass rather than changing camera bodies. I have no plans on upgrading any bodies until I’ve used the R and RP for at least 5 years.
that is the best decision honestly. The glass is far more important than the body.
@@IreneRudnyk Wish this was emphasized in the video - that RF 85 makes any body a hero, and the inverse of a crappy lens ruining a top camera also holds true
Can you compare the EVF of both of them? Do you miss the 1mil+ pixels?
Nice to see the RP get some love for a change! While my mains are R5/R6, I grab my RP for travel, or taking photos of my 1 year old around the house. It’s probably my most used camera these days. Whenever any hobbyist asks me what full frame to get, I always recommend the RP for the price and versatility.
What lens would you recommend for the RP if you want to use it primarily to shoot your young children?
I’m thinking 🤔 about it the rp or r
RP looks amazing in this comparison and I guessed it to the first photo. And most importantly, this comparison shows that the dynamic range is not much worse than others, and the color rendition is one of the best. On R6 I liked the detail, despite the fact that it has the lowest resolution. R5 looks great, but in my opinion, it is better to spend these extra $ 2500 on a good lens.
I’ve had the RP for a year now and absolutely love how small and light it is. Great for travel. For video the 35mm rf is lens is excellent and the dual pixel autofocus is buttery smooth. I only shoot 1080 24fps so that’s all I care about. Favorite portrait lens is an adapted 135mm Contax 2.8 Sonnar. Also use an adapter 40mm Summicron which is almost too small of a package but gives unique images. An adapted 50mm Summicron is the perfect package to me for stills.
That rp is looking strong in this i think.
Because of you i bought RP and im so happy i did 🤗🤗🤗
Me either
I've just upgraded from the R to R5 - both great cameras really and the image quality of the R is comparable to that of the 5d-mk4 let's not forget! A good photographer will get great images from both (and a bad photographer...). What I like about the R5 though is the ergonomics with the joy stick and quick control dial, and as someone who crops a lot (street photography), the 45 mp is helpful! The IBIS is also helpful in using the super lightweight lenses like the 50mm STM, which doesn't have in-lens stability. I'm sure in a year's time we'll be hearing about how the R5c or R3 (or whatever) is the new must-have, but I think if you're happy with any of the R's, then best focus on the photography than the equipment and enjoy!
The RP's images are my favorite - hadn't expected that. Great review!
R6! Price quality and features.
We have the R and R5. We too found the colour shift seemed weighted to green on the R so we adjusted the white balance offset in the camera (under Camera icon, menu item 4) to ad a little magenta. We shot with a colour checker chart. Rather than use a LR preset, we found this to be a more convenient option.
I will have to play around with and see if it makes a difference, thanks!
how did you upload a color chart to the eos r and which color chart did you use?
The EOS R6 and EOS RP are my favorite in all side by side comparisons, higher resolution doesn't always = better picture quality.
exactly
I agree, I somehow feel the R5 was rated higher than it should due to the price over here
I have the R5 and the R. Both work well for my needs (wildlife/birds) I haven't really noticed the colour issue with my R but it was a later model. I like the R for it's 30 meg images, which
is always helpful for cropping in. The R5 is superb and the R is great as a second body. Thanks for all your great videos Irene, I love that you focus more on getting the image you want than all
the tech aspects of gear, and your results are beautiful.
I've owned and shot commercially with R, RP and 5D4. Results in this video do not correlate at all for me shooting thousands of images. For me EOS R first for overall photos and video, 5D4 second and RP third. Not sure where the green tint in the R is coming from here, I've never experienced it. I'm looking forward to trying the R6. Thanks for your video.
I believe in your experience more than the video.
Same! I shoot with R, I don’t get green as what Erin posted in her video.
Because she set the temperature manually, which makes no sense at all.
Agreed, I absolutely love the EOSR and in this video it makes the EOSR looks trash
@@Sayject It is most likely the "Portrait" mode Picture Style she was using. Easily corrected but why not just change the EOS R 's picture style to Faithful or Autumn Hue or even back to Standard.
I got the RP three years ago and it has been wonderful. My only complaints are: lower battery life due to LP-E17 vs LP-E6; having to use a bypass cable for vertical shutter release (and only 3rd party battery grips available); no vertical oriented scroll wheel on those battery grips; and your hand size may require the official grip-only accessory that adds 2cm to the bottom. OTHERWISE, IT PRODUCES EXCELLENT IMAGES. Third-party EF-RF adapters are $50, sometimes even with the function ring included. (Don't be suckered into buying the official Canon one unless you need perfect weather sealing I suppose. It all works the same.)
RP ‘s images are great according to its price🔥🔥🔥
да за 1100 долл - отличная цена
Thanks Irene, I have just purchased an RP (purely as it was the least expensive of the four) and it is great to see your comparison. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Two card slots aren't necessary, but they can be handy. One time I was shooting a fashion show and they also wanted it shot in JPG and wanted the photos between the sets. Two slots allowed me to shoot JPG to one card and RAW to the other. Then I could hand off the JPG card between sets and drop in a newly formatted card for next set (while keeping the RAWs all on a larger card that stayed in the camera). After the show, I had RAWs, which allowed me to fully edit the shots for my own portfolio.
Thank you for sharing this card tip, that is super practical!
Wow, this is good news for my 2 years old EOS RP!
I get my R6 last week AF is insane compered to my old 5Dmkiii.
I know right! The autofocus on the R6 and R5 is insane
Made the same upgrade. Same experience. Superb AF on the R6!
Same upgrade for me. It’s such an improvement.
May I ask a quick question , Does the auto focus on R6 work with a fixed lens while shooting a video?
@@pinteep You mean prime lens? Of course as long as lens have auto focus motor.
This is fantastic! Thank you for the comparison!
I just bought the RP a few weeks ago and I love it! So far I only have the 50mm with it, but soon I'll expand to the 35mm and 85mm too. I also have a Blackmagic Pocket 4K for video so that side of the RP didn't really bothered me. This video makes me happy and feel like I made the perfect choice thank you :)
I liked R6 the most and am surprised you ranked it third
The R6 is the winner here. Not because I’m biased or anything lol
The r6 just looks better - I am trying to pick and every sample raw photo I see I prefer the R6 - I wonder why
Wow. The RP looks solid.
The bokeh of that 85mm f1.2 is just outstanding, maybe the most beautiful bokeh of the market. amazing photos as always Irene.
For real! It’s magical
Awesome comparison, I think the RP punches WELL above its weight, I use it as my main camera with the R as a backup usually, (yes I would like the R6 a LOT! ) I would be interested to add the M6.ii into this mix, personally I think that its on a par with these cameras although obviously a different form factor,
But the model is naturally aging between the shots, so is it really an accurate comparison 😉
I actually like r6 thee most
Great overview! I am thinking some of the color differences might simply be slightly different auto-white balance or even that the light changed slightly between shots and the auto-white balance simply did a different interpretation of the white point. Or did you shoot everything at at the same white balance? Anyway, I just ordered a Canon RP to get a taste of the Canon RF system - I love the ergonomics compared to Sony.
I did a comparison using another reviewer raw files and I could reproduce the green cast when using fixed white balance. When using the camera auto the R5 was actually greener than the R. It was pretty easy to match them by tweaking a little bit the white balance : imgur.com/a/Nr3YfIa
Im blown away canon rp on second place…got RP 2 weeks ago… and im really happy with it..coming from Nikon D7500…really love the mirror less and full frame
I just got my R5 + 70-200 RF 2.8... Every time i get a picture, I am amazed from the quality this camera is able to produce...!!! Thank you CANON - I love you!
Found myself preferring the R6 in most photographs!
I will switch to R6 at the end of the year and some rf lenses to go with. The R5 is amazing but the price difference is too high for what the R6 already offers and even I would like to have a bit more options to crop images as I photograph wildlife and zoo animals often I don't really need images that big for it and they just need to much space on my cards and so on anyway.
I have the R6. It resolves the individual lenses on the eye of a dragonfly with the 100-500mm. Nice camera.
@@robertmueller6979 the 100-500 is definitely on my list to get with the R6. That's sounds amazing. As I breed exotic moth species this is good to hear about.
@@franninchen .. If you buy the EF adapter ring just get the plain $100 one. The R6 has 3 dials on it to control aperture, shutter and ISO. No need for another ring. I bought the adapter with control ring for $200 and never use the ring. I'd also get the EF-S 55-250mm STM for video and moths. Much easier to hold, super sharp for insect photography and you can shoot right at your feet. The 100-500mm can shoot pretty close but not that close.. The R6 can use both EF and EF-S lenses and automatically adjusts the crop.... )
@@robertmueller6979 at the moment I use the 90d with the 55-250mm STM for my insect and zoo photos. So far I only rented L lenses and the 5D Mark IV for special occasions but after 8 years and photography still my main hobby it is time for the investment and upgrade. I still like my APSC kit for times when I want to travel light weight. The extra ring on the adapter is also something I don't need. I like to use the display or control buttons more anyway.
@@franninchen ... Yea. I had to make a decision myself. "is this my hobby?". My wife made me ask myself that question. Then she said "Good. I just bought the R6 and 100-500mm". I about died when I saw the lens price. Made me physically ill. "What possessed you?" I asked. "I got tired of you constantly talking about the R6. Shut up and shoot." ..I said "You forgot the ring"... lol... I really need to start checking our bank account... )
As an RP owner, this video makes me happy haha.
I have to admit this review was better than I expected. So many just talk (literally talk and not much else) about specs. It was nice to see some normal real world use. I've been leaning toward the R6 as an upgrade, but am concerned about the heating issues being mentioned all over the internet. Did you experience any issues with overheating?
I want a RP! That was the one i liked the photos the most!
It's solid in size and weight, too! Very comfortable to travel with it and just keep it in your backpack if you get a small lens like the RF 50mm f/1.8.
@@KentSpain85 I'm searching for one to buy. It will be my first full frame camera =D
@B Price Nice! Thanks for the info!
@@KentSpain85 I would just like to say if you have bigger hands it might be better to go for the R the rp is tiny
to me it's one of the best real life comparaison of image quality for those cameras. thank you! I have the RP and the 70D. the ISO is the main difference, you can push the RP to 12800 iso and it's still better than the 70D at 1600 iso
Thanks you. I'am going to do that change
As a R5 user it breaks my heart to admit that R6 is a winner here. Best result and cheaper. No brainer.
Don't let it break your heart. That r5 is a beast.
I was gonna say, I think I’m liking the R6 more than any of them
Great review Irene. Respect to the real world comparison. It's basically what matters most to anyone trying to decide which camera to buy rather than specs only comparisons which most people do. A little more comparisons with one or two different lenses would be appreciated. Cheers again for the wonderful review. 🥂
the RP turns out to be a great Cost Benefit.
I have the EOS R, after your video I looked at my photos both RAW and Edited and I didn’t find them as green as your camera. Possible that you may have a damaged sample of the EOS R
I don’t, I have actually used two different bodies over the time and they both have this colour.
You probably just don’t notice the difference. You really see it in the comparison
@@IreneRudnyk I’ll take your word for it but please don’t tell my clients 🥺
It’s still fine, it’s not horrible or anything just not as good as the other ones.
I also notice it in my R. At least in lightroom. I always need to add +5 magenta to fix it
@@andrewmedina1943 I definitely found a lot green tint on R photos myself. Had to color correct it.
WOW Honestly, I will go with the RP pictures any time any day. I love the color rendition coming out from that little thing and surprisingly that is the cheapest of them all. But, must ppl will love the mega pixels/Build quality of the R5 camera. Great work by the way, blessings!
I'm so glad I watched this. I've been debating which camera to upgrade to and I do a lot of outdoor photography in green areas. The rp seems to be the best option for me right now. Next upgrade will be the r5
Great comparison video. The EOS-R has been my main camera for over a year now and I have not experienced the greenish tint issue. I just got an RP as a backup. I hope the R6 goes on sale around Christmas 😆
You won’t notice it until you compare
I went with the R6 because it has a small megapixel count which is better for lowlight. I’m a wedding photographer so this is very important to me. Additionally the CF cards for the R5 are ridiculously expensive.
can you please explain to me how smaller megapixel count helps with lowlight?
@@mumuvp lmao 😂
Um dos melhores e mais sinceros reviews que eu já vi, sem imparcialidade e com o setup de cada câmera, ainda com o bônus da edição. Fiquei triste com os resultados da R, e de a R6 ter ficado em 3*, o lado bom é que mesmo com apenas 20mp não falta qualidade de imagem, confesso que esperava mais resolução da R5, mas também me pareceu a melhor quase sempre. A surpresa do vídeo foi a RP, tem menos recursos é claro, mas em qualidade de imagem não deve nada as outras. Ótimo vídeo. Fiz uma redação aqui, socorro. Kkkk
I have Canon Eos R, heartbroken 💔 after seeing this. But I still love ❤️ it.
don't be! just because it got the 4th place doesn't mean that it is a bad camera at all
@@IreneRudnyk Yes 🙌 Thank you 😊
@@MayankNimbalkar I use the R for video and landscapes. Just shoot raw and use gray card or a color calibration card and you can correct/grade the colors to your liking
Couple of other tips here:
If you shoot jpg and just want to use auto white balance you can go in in the cameras menu and tweak the colors toward blue and red, don’t overdo it and do some testing. It’s under the camera icon menu and fourth tab called WB Correction. Now you will have a cooler tone or maybe more neutral tone applied to every shot or video.
And if you shoot in raw it’s easy piece to correct in post with a cooler tone in white balance tool and maybe at a bit of magenta in white balance tool as well. Hope it helps.
@@martinekwall4671 i h'v r n i do color colabration in side it.. So i do ave pb with wb
I love r body more options than rp
For rp 20 m.b. can compare with, 30 or more
Great comparison video Irene! I’m looking to investing in a mirrorless full frame camera - and for the price and quality- The Canon RP looks like my decision. Thank you for making great content!
I was going to upgrade to the R from my Rp, but I don't think I'll bother now. Thank you for showing my little RP stands up against the rest 👍
Got the R6 a few months ago and I'm really happy with it! Can't beat that wildlife AF 🙌
I actually mixed up the RP and R5 photo guesses at 3:15... I use an R5 at my day job (marketing/multimedia production) and it is awesome. I used to have the R because it was the only thing decent out at the time from canon and the RF lenses looked juicy. 3 years later, I convinced my boss to upgrade for the uncropped 4k, 4k 120fps, in-body stabilization, and 8k. The 45mp is awesome but the file sizes are 55mb for uncompressed RAW. Eeeek! If you can afford it, definitely get the R5 as it will last quite a while with the specs it has.
Personally I believe that your Eos R has some kind of defect when it comes to color saturation…
I have never had that issue with mine neither my friend and coworker which both of us shoot with the eos R. Apparently that specific camera you’re using has some type of sensor issues. When it comes to the R line, when you’re using the same lens in all of them, Canon has made sure that almost 98% of the photos taken with look very similar in terms of quality of course..,and that one you’re using is more on the green side that any other ones I have use or seen. Beautiful work by the way.
Kudos to you Irene..😉
Have you ever compared it to anything else, because if not you are just noticing it. My camera doesn’t have any defects
Daniel, Adobe LR ruins camera colors accidentally many times, but the older ones I think they are ruined on purpose. Try capture one, my 15 year old 5D performs as the new ones in terms of color accuracy
Those were my thoughts too, the colors of her R are so different then the colors on my R, i've also used the RP, and the colors looks almost identical...
Exactly. My pictures never look so yellow or green. More neutral
Sample shots from left to right
1- R
2- RP
3- R5
4- R6
I replace my sony a77 and got a Canon R. I am a new Canon user so I went for this one. It was on offer and got a discount on it. It really good camera and when using it for a fashion and boudoir shoot. I cannot see any green in the images or video shoot. I am using it for indoor shoots with natural light or studio lights. I just got this last year. It came with a kit lens to see how it works. I love it. The most important one I needed is using iso which I can go higher than my Sony which can only go 16000. The only thing I noticed was the noise that easily sees in darker areas of the image when using high ISO. This camera works for me. In the future, I am looking for another camera for video. I am thinking r6 or r5. For this camera am thinking to get a wide-angle lens for a video shoot.
Sandeep Patel
First of all, I should say this, the model is so beatiful.
Second, I wanna say my opinion about these cameras.
Without considering price, R5>R6>R>RP
R5 shows the most natural images among them. So that's first position.
R6 shows accurate AF and bright feeling, and very good quality in low light.
RP shows good color but if situation is not the best, then quality goes down sharply. So thats the last position.
R is not excellent, but not bad. Just so so.
Just purchased the RP after watching your video and I can't wait to try it,I wish I could afford the canon 85mm 1.2 lens.
This is no secret that some photographers crave the vintage styling of cameras and also the film-look in images. We do get the film-look in the images produced by Canon 5D Classic.
However, the retro-styling is something unavailable to current Canon camera users. Nikon enchanted its users with Nikon Df few years ago and now, Nikon Z fc. I’m simply awestruck how beautiful those cameras look!
How about Canon thinking in the same line and present us with few such styles like the great Canon AE-1!
I personally liked the skin tones on the RP and R6 the best :)
Excellent presentation, really well conceived and planned. Clearly explained judgements. Thank you, Irene
I currently have the RP and it's a great camera and even paired with the kit lens I've been able to produce amazing results. But of course I've felt like I've pushed my current gear to it's limits and as my skills and knowledge get better it comes to a point where I have to start saving for better lenses and cameras. I'm eyeballing the R5, everything it offers for photo and all of it's amazing video features. definitely want that 120fps.
I got my 5dmk2 since 2008 and Im only doing Wedding and Portraits and Ill consider Buying that RP
Some will point out battery life as an issue, but just carry an extra with you and you can go a very long time.
Thank you very much for the review. Thinking about buying a RP and now it's confirmed.
Wow! This was great! I sold my EOS R and had been thinking about the R5. This pretty much nailed the choice down for me, but I'm also tempted to get an EOS RP as a backup just because of your comparison. And you pointing out the color-tone differences really opened my eyes! Thanks for your video!
This really helped me a lot. Thank you, Irene! More power to you and your channel.
Ancient, long-retired pro from the film days here, turned amatuer. This is interesting! I have both, the R and R5, and I'm guessing others do as well. I had intended on doing a test similar to yours (fixed kelvin), not to compare cameras, but to look at color variation between my vintage and modern lenses (Leica R, Zeiss Contax, old Nikon workhorse from my working days, and modern Canon including the 85mm RF). Adding a comparison between the bodies now makes sense to see if the results are the same. Anyone questioning the results you encountered can also do the same (and should, before questioning them IMHO).
I'm going to try your test with my two cameras, using the same settings and Canon software (then compare the raw files in Capture One). Many of us are familiar with sample variation in lenses (to be expected) but with bodies? I've not contemplated the possibility before (and have not seen others, either), but that would, indeed, be something interesting to find out. And then, this becomes another item for comparing brands as the variation within the Canon line is eye-opening.
Of particular interest, many of us probably remember when fixed lighting (both, LED and fluorescent designed for photography) was relatively new, and threw a horrible green cast. Technology has gotten better these days, mitigating the green unpleasantness. But if the results you found bear out, this is particularly interesting for those who use LED or even now-outdated fluorescent photography bulbs (5600K). I.e., if the camera is contributing to a green cast, it can add effort to post, and then, completely eliminating a green cast may come at the expense of other colors leaving less than optimal results (speculating this point).
In any event, thank you for this very interesting, excellent, and eye-opening comparison. I've been watching your vids from time to time for many years. You have a great touch and produce astounding results... consistently.
thank you!
@@IreneRudnyk Had a "duh" moment last night thinking about this. Your observations are correct, but there's an explanation--and it's not a problem with the EOS R. Since I'm not a content producer, setting up the experiment to show what happened will take some time--I'll explain now, then when I do get to it (testing lenses anyway) I'll share a link.
Back in the film days we could get unwanted color casts from light reflection off nearby objects. In particular, very green settings (green grass, shubs, trees, etc.) would through a color cast onto the color negative film--a cast that had to be corrected during printing. I remembered this after recalling some green screen work with my daughter. Though I had a strong K5600 light on her as the subject, the amount of green spill reflecting forward off the green screen was problematic. I tried to move her as far forward as possible, but it remained a challenge nonetheless.
So why does the R5 look better? Well, this makes me smile. The early complaints about the R5 mentioned that it was too magenta (relatively speaking). If a picture is too green, how to color correct? Add magenta. And, walaa... Did those clever color science engineers at Canon decide to alter (perhaps ever-so-slightly) the color science so that pics taken in green environments look better? Taking outdoor pics in a garden environment is rather popular. I guess this is the conspiracy theory in me making such a silly guess. But what holds, is that your natural environment is quite green (beautiful for pics, but green, nonetheless). Thus, the "bad" magenta shift in the R5 actually serves to counterbalance a greenish tint emanating from the foliage. This is not a problem with the EOS R, but perhaps a clever tweak with the R5 (me guessing).
The best way to avoid color shifts with electronic sensors is to white balance with an 18% grey card--but the white balance must adjusted at the subject location. I.e., taking the WB closer to the ground will cause a stronger green shift and camera compensation, and closer to open sky (relative to the subject) will cause a bluer shift (and camera compensation). Thus, the most accurate color balance should be set at face-level with the subject. And then, if lighting changes (clouds shifting, time of day, or moving the subject) a new white balance adjustment will be required.
Or save the fuss and fix it in post using RAW files. Anyway, this was a good brain teaser, and I'm pretty sure a controlled test could be set up to confirm the results. When I eventually do such a test, I'll use a gray card so that actual levels could be observed with vectorscopes in post.
Keep up the outstanding work, and thanks again for doing this comparison.
Interested comparisons and you do such a great job 👍These modern cameras renders the world beautifully. You also had a fantastic lens😉
I have two R and that yellow I saw here was a lot more than I get. Though I use Capture One and they have superb camera profiles that doesn’t have that yellow tint. Per my experience is that Adobe isn’t that exact when it comes to colors from each camera but one can get there with PS.
... now I saw you used DPP. Yeah, remember every raw converter has it’s own look of colors and contrast and even between cameras as we saw here. It’s programmed by people with their ideas and not necessarily always “correct”. Thank goodness to all the companies that makes raw converters and gives us so many possibilities to tweak the photos as we prefer.
I have the R5 and looking to complete the system with a second camera (shooting landscape with a pair of RF lenses), currently choosing between R6 and RP - looking for best overall performance.
You said you personally went with R5+R6 but gave the RP the second place nonetheless.
From the sample images, it's not entirely clear which one is best - but the autofocus + video capabilities seem to clearly put the R6 as the better overall option.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks!
The R6 makes the most sense of all the cameras based on cost and performance.
I second that. Personally I feel like the R6 does everything the R5 does unless the user a) produces lots of large prints or b) needs 8k video. But the R6 is literally half the price where I'm from (this is used prices for both).
I have the Canon RP and it continues to amaze me at what is does for the price point. My goto lens is the 24-105 kit lens. Would like to have the R5 👀👀👀. The color on the R all appear off - lots of green color on the model’s skin for some reason
I think the color on the R can be easily corrected by changing the Picture Style to FAITHFUL or AUTUUM HUE or even Standard. She seems to be using the "Portrait" Picture style
Nice comparison! That must have taken a ton of time juggling the four cameras.
I love my canon R6 ❤️ it does everything I need for my photography. I do love warm tones.
Irene - serious suggestion/challenge for a video: Do your next "photoshoot" using R5 in short 8K video clips. No stills. Then back at the desk, pull the perfect frame from the video and do your edit. This sort of thing has been talked about for years, and now with 8K i wonder if it's possible. Is there enough resolution that this is practical? What programs would be used to pull this off with best results?
The resolution is plenty but the issue is motion blur and hard drive space. You'll likely be at 1/60th shutter speed since 30fps is the max for 8k video and R5 video codec is very inefficient, file size will be massive.
Had my r6 for a couple of years and love it.For me the eye af was a game changer.Have been tempted with the r5 but will wait a while for a camera upgrade.Love your work and your editing is beautiful.Also the rf 85 1.2 is my favourite lens.
I will be selling my 5d iv because of this and get. another rp, way to go Irene, we actually did have the same observation that rp is actually an underrated camera. Well, it really also depends on who's using these awesome gears! Thank you Irene! Much love❤️
I have the EOS R and EOS R5. Haven’t used the R much since getting the R5, which is simply nicer to use, is more capable and delivers superior image quality.
moment of silent for those who use canon eos 90d like me .Can see all professions photographers have migrated to mirror less cameras, plain to switch into canon r6 that the one I can afford right now
I have the 80D and kick ass with ease. I have the R6 as well. The 80D holds it's own fairly well so I have no doubt the 90D is a fine camera.
Talent, proper glass and editing skill makes you a photographer. Better buy glass you need for work and wait for global shutter
@@spi25888 .. I am SO dying for a global shutter. After that it's all talent.Until then it's glass and camera. After that it's all glass.
I just got my RP and is more happy now thanks to you
I'm surprised with how the RP looks better than the R. Great comparison and a belated happy birthday Irene.
I have the RP and R5 - love them both!
I am impressed with RP👏👏 it's presence is felt within giants 🔥🔥
EOS R6 all the way. I bought the r6 personally from all my research.
Thank you for the review! It helped me make the choice of getting the RP. I have an SL2 and wanted an upgrade - thank you!
Always loves your feedback .... its been 2 years with my eos r n results r awesome....looking forward for R5
the R6 just shines here photo and video! but when you showed the last set of photos then you made us realize that you are magician! :-D
so confused! love your videos here keep em posting!
Seeing so many technical videos on Canon's R lineup and comparisons, you start to lose focus on the art of photography and the qualities of each. I went from a Digital Rebel in '04 to a 6D in 2015 to an M50 last June(mainly to use it for Zoom w/Canon EOS Webcam Utility) to the RP in August. During Covid, I've been able to do more travel than I used to. And the results I get with the RP and the ease of use over a DSLR and the just amazing quality of RF glass, I've been very happy. I'm building up my collection of lenses and maybe I'll get an R5 in the next year or two.
I own an RP and the R5
I wish they would do more firmware upgrades on the RP though.
It's the most comfortable camera I've held.
Obviously the R5 is my main body.
I own all 4 and the RP is the camera that goes everywhere with me since it is light, compact, and… cheap/expendable! Which means i fear not for its survival and have no reservations of putting it into harm’s way or shady situations (like late night street photography) where a red-ringed R5/R6 would get too much attention. Paired with the RF 50 1.8, EF 40mm 2.8, or EF 85mm 1.8 are my favorite configurations that are stealthy as well as capable. I also keep an RP unstrapped and clipped into my belt as my backup, C camera that usually holds a prime or ultrawide when I’m dual strapping my 28-70 and 70-200. It’s so small and light but still capable - It’s a great utility body and a great way to start full frame since it will be backwards and forward compatible and viable for years to come. Now if the RP used the LP-E6 instead of the inferior LP-E17 it would be the perfect value proposition
Probably the best review of these bodies on youtube!
I upgraded from a T5i to an RP when it 1st launch so yea I paid $1200 but damn i couldn't be more happy to have it. R6 looks amazing but I don't like the 20mp censor, like the RP has more than d R6 but its just me, its a great camera doh. Nice video Irene.
WELL DONE on reviews of cameras. Showed samples all together as should be. Easily seen in comparison. THANK YOU.
Nice comparison! Great! ... I have two RP bodies ... I use them with the EF 50/1.2 and the EF 85/1.2 lenses. One lens for one body. No lens changing. No dirt inside. :-) The old EF lenses are not that sharp and have a lot of color fringing - but I like the look! And even because of that I'm old, too - my eyes are weak and the picture quality is more then perfect for me! :-)
Irene, thank you so much for doing this video. Lovely photos and very informative. Your video finally convinced me to buy an RP which I love. So, thank you again.
I do have an R6 and did already shoot with all the other cameras, for me the r5 is the winner but im sorry the R6 is clear the second... For the stabilisation, AF, video without getting hot, science colors... Just wanna ask you how do you work with CR3 in lightroom, its losses all the canon color science, please do a video with that... continue the amazing work
Canon and Adobe have almost stopped playing together in ICC profile synchronization. Therefore, editing CR3 on Lightroom or Camera Raw is not the most effective because it loses its original color. Currently I am using Captrue One and Canon Digital Professional to edit CR3 and the results are very good.
Yes its a shame, the supplied color profiles for the R5 and R6 are basically useless and look horrible. You can create your own profile with a color calibration device. Also, you can buy profiles for example from color fidelity. they are definitely better than what adobe supplies and improve things a lot. still they do not look as good as the camera jpegs color wise, but after a little tuning i am personaly okay with them.
I’m an R user and honestly have no issues with it, I’ve also shot with an R5 and honestly any of these mirrorless will do the job. There was no mention in the video if her monitor is calibrated which makes a big difference too. Assuming most everyone is shooting in RAW you will take your photos and tweak the coloring and make slight corrections with editing software where I will say that no one or serious or pro photographers are using files straight out of camera. I will eventually upgrade to the R5 or R6 but for now I’m very pleased with the results I get with the R
I can only compare the R and the R6 but i have returend the R6 to the vendor because i found the difference in terms of photographyand image quality so minor that i prefered the 30 MP over the improvements in the R6. Most of the features are great for video and only a small improvement for photos. I wait for another generation in the 3000$ Range and then check them again. But for now my almost 3 year old R is still my favorite camera. R5 is far to expensive for me so it does not count.
If the r was let’s say 24 mp it would a better all rounder