Douglas Murray: The Dangerous Dishonesty of the Modern Left
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- Renowned author and commentator Douglas Murray joins Watercooler from the UK to discuss the revised edition of his latest book ‘The Madness of Crowds’ and its critique of left-wing groupthink.
The Madness of Crowds is available from Bloomsbury: www.bloomsbury.com/au/the-mad...
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We are lucky to have Douglas Murray. He has a great intellect!
Yes, he makes lucid and effective arguments against parts of the modern radical "left" but go listen to his positions on Julian Assange. He's a bootlicking stooge. No integrity at all.
@Plazmatron you can't selectivity apply your "principles". Most people think what's happening to Assange is wrong. He told people the truth.
@@dave9547 Assange is no saint
@@Happyheretic2308 who said he was?
@@dave9547Assange needs to face court and the consequences of his actions .. that’s what he said about Bradley manning that supplied him the materials.. Bradley knew what he was doing and the risks he was taking .. he had no sympathy or empathy for the guy ., .. many human rights lawyers will be willing to represent Julian .. be a man and face the music 🎵
He makes you question so much about yourself and others - he is a sane voice in a current world of SJW nutters - thank god for Douglas Murray 👍
God is a man made myth like Santa
Thank Douglas for Douglas.
coldlessons ‘emotional traps’, I like that.
@David Shaw there are plenty on the left that voted for Brexit..
@David Shaw no laughing stock. It takes guts and courage to go up against the globalists. Lesser nations would have bent over and carried on taking ut up the ass.
Douglas Murray is a legend and i'll watch anything with him in it.
Totally ...I watch everything could listen to him all day long..
Yep, he took over the place Jordan P used to fill for me before he went AWOL!
Same here 🙌🏼
Same. Hes one of the few people where I'll hit 'like' on the video before I've even watched it purely because the more likes the video has the more it'll circulate.
@@markkavanagh7377 Lobster Daddy doesn't love you anymore
Unlike so many other public speakers, Douglas Murray is getting stronger and more eloquent with years. The British tradition is well worth preserving but it takes minds like his and they are few and far apart.
I can't get enough of Douglas Murray's interviews and his no nonsense sense. He is one of our great assets.
It’s time for the grown-ups to take control of the situation, and put all the SJW’s back in their prams! 🇬🇧
👏👏👏🐎🐎🐎🇭🇲
I could listen to Douglas Murray all day long. He hits the nail on the head on every point.
Douglas Murray is everything intellectually that his opponents are not - and that speaks volumes as to their inadequacy to speak a coherent counterpoint of any genuine value. Long may he wipe his feet upon their embarrassing tantrums.
Your comment is music to my ears. Well said, sir!!
Lys CDK thank you
How can such an intellectual powerhouse then come to suggest Christianity as some sort of solution or antidote?
He so correctly points out that the call for "equality" is often a pretext for an underlying "social justice" agenda. "Equality" is no longer equality of opportunity but equality of result, i.e., we won't rest until everything you worked so hard for is distributed among those who've done little but whine and bitch all their lives.
The Marxist aim is 'equity' not equality: giving advantage to the disadvantaged, which works where it's voluntary - eg. giving to charity - but breaks down where force and/or inducement is applied - eg. branding Wimbledon umpires "racist" if they hold you to the same rules as everyone else.
th-cam.com/video/kzFGNE2Suz8/w-d-xo.html
@@differous01 when was a Wimbledon umpire called racist for imposing the rules?
Actually distributed to the powerful in the name of the poor.
@@yesdcotchin Sorry, US Open, not Wimbledon, though both championships have the same rules on coaching and raquet throwing.
@@differous01 right. that was an accusation of sexism if you mean the Serena incident
An absolutely brilliant man who cuts through to the core of modern issues!
The more of Mr. Murray we see, the better.
Yes, he makes lucid and effective arguments against parts of the modern radical "left" but go listen to his positions on Julian Assange. He's a bootlicking stooge. No integrity at all.
Thank God for Douglas Murray.
I’d prefer to listen to Douglas rather than all our politicians put together.
Imagine if he was one of our politicians oooof, nah, that would be too good nothing like that ever happens. He'd legit be the best world leader if I had to pick one.
He's not that impressive.
Freedom Watch name someone who would do a better job
@@abigailslade3824 Pat Buchannon
Freedom Watch who?
We Americans propose a deal with the UK: You take your stupid prince back, we'll take Douglas Murray.
@Andrew Jones Close enough. Ship his ass back.
Ahh, ok deal
How can one man be so intelligent, rational and sane?
Thanks for speaking up Douglas Murray - there's still sanity in the world.
Demanding unending repentance while having no intention of giving forgiveness, is exactly how slaves are made.
He’s a great writer and speaker. Always worth listening to. A sane voice in a mad world
A brilliant thinker. His The Madness of Crowds is an excellent book and well worth reading.
Douglas is absolutely correct in what he says. More should listen to his common sense.
Yes, he makes lucid and effective arguments against parts of the modern radical "left" but go listen to his positions on Julian Assange. He's a bootlicking stooge. No integrity at all.
Douglas Murray. Speaks so much sense 👏
As always Douglass Murry is a breath of fresh air in these times and congratulations to the interviewer for letting him talk at length about these subjects. Australia produces some quality interview programs.
People who cancel other people out, will themselves someday be cancelled out by their peers, and then it won't be fair will it.
subtle
One of the brightest men on the planet.
Never did I ever think
There would come a time in this land of mine
When I couldn’t say what was on my mind
Like life in darker times
And far away places
Where you and I couldn’t stray
From what woke folk compelled us to say
But today in Canada
I’m warned
There are some thoughts
I dare not utter
Under threat of fire and fine
For having a criminal mind
But no way will I chain words of mine
To the shackles of the Hive’s mass mind
My concern is the anger I have for that expectation. I may be among the first to the Gulags.
OMG, yes (from a fellow Canadian).
Gary, your poem touched me.
Thanks.
Re-reading this. Rare gift, yours. Thanks.
Extremely well put. Like you (and Mr. Murray) say we need to speak the truth and let our voices be heard loud and clear. The time for quietude has passed.The mob can still be defeated if we rise up en masse
Good sentiment bad poem
Lucky English people to have the brillant M.Murray ! All the Western World need him.. truth, comon sence, history, expérience, talent, underrstand culture, attaché to values, to beauty, to art, his mind is clear because his inteligent!❤
I just love listening to this man such a voice of reson
Talking about ' The Voice of reason ' check out Alex Belfield, he's great - got over 200 K subscribers.
Douglas Murray makes a lot of sense... 🎯
Thank goodness for Douglas Murray.
I'm a US citizen who has spent several months in urban/rural Australia. In the US, political diversity is not our strength. We are so fractionalized that consensus agreement on even minor topics is nigh impossible. Our public education system has trained recent generations that America (and western civilization) is more bad than good, more selfish than giving, more oppressive and error-prone than freedom-loving and corrective. The obsession with racial/ethnic identity with all historical grievances in tow doesn't build a nation, it dismantles it. Don't make the same mistakes.
We could all use some Douglas Murray wisdom in our lives!! Love this man!
I struggle to disagree with anything Murray says. His books are a must read
When we have time to reflect now. What did the last USA president do in the 8 yes, gave lots of money to Isis, and started race and religious unrest. He called Christians easter worshiper, and said Islam, I mean really Islam a religion of peace, we know well their history. But just becoz he was brown does not negate his sin. And sin spread to all men, God does not care about colour, he cares that you are humble and willing to live together in peace. Nobody gives a dam what colour you are.
Yes, he makes lucid and effective arguments against parts of the modern radical "left" but go listen to his positions on Julian Assange. He's a bootlicking stooge. No integrity at all.
Once upon a time there was a story of a young guy who considered his dad an idiot. Coming back home after years of studying the young man was surprised how wise his father become. That's not the case anymore it seems.
Almost 70 years on from Windrush...and the negative results are well in
Anthony Siebenthaler - somewhat off-topic!
@@gongagong
Thanks I read it.
Not the official version is it ?
It reminds me of the Gurkas being conned into coming to Britain only to find themselves stuck around Folkestone, dreams in tatters. They thought they were coming to something very different.
My grandparents and great-grandparents were Highland crofters, born and bred. Generally, my ancestors would have been humble Highland peasants. During the notorious Highland Clearances, many would have been evicted from their homes and left to perish if they couldn't survive the terrifying rigours involved. NONE of my ancestors EVER killed, oppressed or enslaved anyone, except possibly in the course of organised clan violence against other Highlanders or other Brits, if you were to go back many centuries.
Some of my ancestors might, however, have lived in terror of themselves being murdered or enslaved by the BARBARY PIRATES from North Africa who kidnapped vast numbers of Europeans, not least from the British Isles. Many societies RIGHT AROUND the world - NOT JUST EUROPEANS - have engaged in the utterly ABOMINABLE PRACTICE of slavery. Some in fact continue to do so to this very day. European societies are not distinguished in having engaged in slavery, but rather in having been the FIRST TO STOP.
So why is it Britain that is constantly expected to apologise and re-apologise and keep on re-apologising for a practice we discontinued 200 years ago, with nobody apologising to Britain for all the British people they enslaved, and when other countries are still at it right now?
Much as I abhor and detest ALL slavery and much as I sympathise with any actually enslaved person, dead or alive, I in fact have NO personal cause to apologise to any long dead slave. The past is the past. Let bygones be bygones. If, nevertheless, I were to start playing this ridiculous blame game, I could as well DEMAND apologies for my own long dead ancestors who may have lived in terror of being enslaved by the BARBARY PIRATES. In fact, policing British shores to thwart and deter such pirates would have been a serious financial expense to the entire country, and in a sense remains so to this very day. Enslaving pirates would soon return to these shores if Britain's glorious Royal Navy were ever to be scuppered.
All this apologising nonsense is basically just a cynical ploy by those who wish Britain ill, to extract ever more money from us, at the expense ultimately of the most vulnerable elements in British society itself.
Where's Britain's compensation for those British people kidnapped by the Barbary Pirates? Where's Britain's compensation on account of the Vikings and the Romans?
This man is a breath of fresh air, a fantastically intelligent orator. Please listen to him and act on his words.
How refreshing!! In an era when ignorance and stupidity have become the new virtues, there are people like Douglas Murray and Peter Hitchens who can lend a sensible and common sense perspective to any debate. A true antidote to the "Madness of crowds"
An oasis. love Douglas Murray. soothing, calming
We knew all along that Tony Abbott wasn't racist or sexist, the British media should have just asked us. Yeah, like that was ever going to happen. 😂
I dance for pennies I think TA was one of our best PMs. Pity he got shafted.
British Media don’t ask us Brits anything either! In fact they don’t do anything else but tell us what they in their comfortable middle class woke lives demand we do ignoring facts, alternative perspectives Glad we have Mr Abbott on board I have more faith in him than most of UK leadership 👍
jrb designer alliance I’m all there mate. 👍 Got a new TV recently that can stream TH-cam. Stuck on some Sky News Australia. Wife only ever saw ABC. Said about sky, “OMG this is what news used to be like!” Now we just flick through Bolt, Jones etc rather than the woke brigade in the Drum or the godawful Project. I also occasionally put on a bit of Tucker Carlson when we feel nosey about the USA. Obviously tip of the iceberg but I hope to get her interested in other podcasts. Takes a lot to get people interested in politics. She says I need to tell her who to vote for lol. QLD elections coming up. It won’t be anastasia palaszczuk, nor the LNP who are just Labor Lite at this stage. For a starting list of who to watch... check the ones dropped from Joe Rogan’s Spotify list: Sargon, Molyneux etc 😂
@@g0rd0nfreeman Andrew Bolt is excellent, and look at how quickly he got cancelled from the ABC. I used to think SkyNews was the devil, now along with The Spectator Australia, it's the only MSM news that I follow.
I dance for pennies yea Spectator is still proper journalism. Didn’t know there was an Aussie version. I follow the UK version that has a weekly podcast. The antidote to woke, Douglas Murray, writes a column for them, and he reads his articles. Lionel Shriver does the same. Used to live in the UK so still listen to Mike Graham on TalkRADIO via TH-cam. He also does a highly entertaining show called Plank of the Week. Have fun and if ur in QLD, “vote her out.”
The man just speaks sence is all,
We all feel it but are not so articulate.
Good speaker, just needs a bigger platform.
They wont let him
Sense*
The beauty of the internet is whatever he says exists forever. People are discovering Yuri Bezmenovs interview 40 years after he gave it and 30 years after he died because it appeared in a game trailer.
Who is "They" and what platform is bigger than youtube?
Thank you
I love Douglas Murray. If he does a tour, hope he makes a stop in South Africa 🇿🇦. We've become a lazy society of mob think, facts are immaterial.
Douglas Murray is one of the finest 'public intellectuals' operating in the UK today. Notice, though, that genuine thinkers like Douglas do not go into Politics.
Yes, he makes lucid and effective arguments against parts of the modern radical "left" but go listen to his positions on Julian Assange. He's a bootlicking stooge. No integrity at all.
@@dave9547 Dave, remember the old adage (told by the late Rabbi Lionel Blue, I think!), that the only thing two old Jews would agree about is what a third old Jew should give to charity! Just because I support many of Mr Murray's views does not mean I agree with the lot. How might I? I don't know them all, because I don't know him (other than through his writings and broadcasts) and I know nothing about the Assange 'affair' at all. I don't even know what the 'issues' are around him.
@@HagiaSophia1952 Mark, as I said, I think he makes many valid and well articulated points. At the end of the day though his real "principles" show up in his positions re Assange. He's a stooge.
15:15 Unfortunately, majority populations are tolerating being told to "shut up", already, right now!
I Love his clarity and soundness of mind and how incredibly well he articulates that!
How good is Douglas Murray. A fine successor to Christopher Hitchens.
Please don't mention Douglas in the same breath as that nasty little Blairite cheerleader
@@supportme123 hitchens was an avowed marxist also.
I imagine Douglas appreciates being called Doug as much as Hitchens did being called Chris.
Trust me! Read more of Hitchens, look at most of his opinions. He would not have been particularly good on a lot of things. He was a more or less lifelong (right till the end) a full blown Marxist. As well as a Blairite war-monger.
Yes, he makes lucid and effective arguments against parts of the modern radical "left" but go listen to his positions on Julian Assange. He's a bootlicking stooge. No integrity at all.
I’m halfway through The Madness of Crowds and love it !! Amazing 😁
Brillint man with a brilliant mind..
Oh Douglas if I was a homosexual I would probably be a stalker :) Truly a tremendous individual, brave AF and one of the few sane voices in the sea of madness!
Yes, he makes lucid and effective arguments against parts of the modern radical "left" but go listen to his positions on Julian Assange. He's a bootlicking stooge. No integrity at all. He ain't brave.
excellent!
His comments on the reversal of Martin Luther King’s “content of their character” espousal were cogent if ultimately heartbreaking. I would like to send this dialogue to every “woke” person I know, but I no longer trust how truth will be received. Mr. Murray is dead on, fearless and a truly original thinker. Perhaps there is yet hope!
Douglas Murray is a Great Guy.
Douglas, brilliant as always
Great, thanks for sharing! Much love from South Africa.
He is quality
Always insightful listening to Douglas
"the difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real-estate involved" - Frank Zappa
'… he said drily…'
Zappa was clever about a lot of things, but he did not grasp everything. I found his book kind of terrible.
Frank Zappa, eh? Well, an unassailably great mind.
Funny (and true).
Question: What about the amount of real estate destroyed involved?
@@petermathieson5692 oof, excellent question. I would say that if you manage to destroy all of it, along with imprisoning and otherwise assassinating the character of all who were involved, then you definitely get to claim they were a cult, because they can't fight back, and because that way you completely justify your tyranny against them.
The book 'Why I'm no longer talking to white people about race' is currently no 4 on the WHSmith book chart which is a real shame.
Great interview. The St. George analogy is spot on.
Thanks for this great interview!
Douglas I'm one of five my two older sibling's, age's 60 and 61yrs.Both went to Uni both have beat my working class tory parents with their lefty, woke crap over the year's. It hasn't work my parents are war babies and very tough.
The bully is most often a person desperate to be a hero.
I found bullies were protecting their position or were scared of something irrational in such a way that being reassured their position was safe would dissipate their need to be bullies. But I havent got to that bit of his talk yet
They daren't be judged by their character.
Really? How exactly?
Thomas Sowell calls them the liberal-left
Fascinating and informative.
Thankyou both.
It should be required in social science courses
We're living with people that would say. " The soviet union having nuclear weapons and gulags is a conspiracy theory "
Yours ever, a SERIOUS FAN.
Stay well, be safe.
WF [UK]
It is such a shame that people that are so smart like Murray have to waste their time with this
He really is the voice of reason and sanity in a mad world! We don't always appreciate the agenda's behind issues. He makes us stop and think. He also verifies my current thoughts on things. As people, were not daft. We see things for what they are, Douglas is just very good at articulating it and clarifying it.
My mom and I have been talking a lot about the unelected health officials too lately. These political leaders at the oval and state level might truly be scared, so whatever their top health official tells them, they are happy to go along with it. I asked my mom well what do we do? These people are unelected. And there lies the problem. You never know how someone is going salivate at the chance of having power that they never, ever thought they would have. And for a lot of them, there is no going back as long as they can help it.
My mum and dad had bombs dropping on them for six years post traumatic stress disorder wasn't mentioned
WHAT IS WRONG WITH HAVING CONSPIRACY THEORIES? To reach a conclusion one must begin with a theory!
Hypothesis, not theory, except colloquially
Excellent case in point. They called the Wuhan lab theory a "conspiracy theory" straight out the gate. Even as the intelligence communities were investigating it.
"They're just out of short pants". Absolutely right.
When I read Douglas's work and watch him on You Tube I am struck with his down-to-earth common sense, his plain talking is a joy to behold. It makes me realise how far the main stream media have wandered from what the average person thinks. This is particularly true when considering the BBC. As someone who used to be a supporter of our national broadcaster, the last ten years have seen it decend into a very stupid and nasty organisation. It has to go.
I am full of admiration for DM's stamina. I find his ideas obviously correct, but its wears me out trying, even in my imagination, to argue with the nonsense so many idiots are feeding us now.
The answer is simple. Just smile politely and say ‘your issues are not important to me, you should direct them to someone who cares’.
I am a person of colour, it just happens that the colour I am is pink and not brown, and neither of them are black or white!!!
When has not wanting to see people sleeping on the streets become so controversial?
Estrangement by adult children against their parents is epidemic in the U.S. Our daughter has estranged us with absolutely no explanation whatosoever. The buzzword "social justice" is part of her LinkedIn account.
He has been on TH-cam for ages.
"The only thing we learn from history; is that we do not learn from history."
- Pat Buchanan
Love D.M. I would argue the metaphor could be taken even further. I haven't finished listening but the new left is not swinging at chicken's or thin air, they are swinging their swords at innocent people!!!! He will go down in history as an invaluable thinker. Sadly as with Thomas Sowell and many others, I fear they will not be valued until well after the pendulum has swung so far that real damage has been done for decades. I often think of the movie The Terminator. There's a line where he says "its in your nature to destroy yourselves". Maybe thats true. I hope not.
Left is right, up is down
Evil is good and good is evil
If you view the concern over nonsensical complaints and problems as a kind of compulsive distraction from our actual problems, then the it makes sense that the emergence of yet another real, urgent problem in reality would just cause people to disconnect even more and retreat into their little worlds of fake concerns. This whole sudden focus on racism, to the extent it's not a game being played on the public stage by political actors, just seems to me like a nostalgia for the old problems we had when things were comparatively good, problems that made sense and that we could solve. The real problems facing human civilization are of a scope and scale that nobody can do anything about them even if they knew what to do, so the incentive is just to become fixated on some other topic that seems more tractable -- it's like choosing anger over despair.
Something that you not have been aware of is in the American education system (including universities) is the lack of actual education (no real history or civics taught) but the indoctrination of race-ism, sexism, & veneration the ideas of Karl Marx.
Good interview. Thank you!
Douglas Murray is spot on when making his points! "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable," - The Declaration of Independence. How many more evils will mankind in our day, dispose themselves to suffer?!? Woe unto those who call good, evil and evil, good!
Me too! I, also, don’t care but am worried. Won’t they get stronger and stronger? Also, I’ve had some comments withheld on certain sites. Yes, to hell with them.
The analogy that progressives are like King George slicing a sword through the air is brilliant.
Saint George not King George.
Douglas is in jovial mood here.
What about Government overreach when it comes to telling a woman what she can do with her body - as with the Texas abortion bans ?
What about Government overreach when it comes to telling a person what they can do with their body : such as vaccine mandates.
I'm pro my body my choice as long as it's dispensed fairly.
If it's acceptable for a woman to have an abortion ( and I'm pro choice)
It should then be acceptable for a man to choose to not be a parent as well.
If it's ok for you to kill it, then it's ok for me to abandon it.
If it's ok for California to legalize it
Maybe it should be ok for Texas to ban it.
Actually, bomb making manuals are totally legal here in the USA.
Ooh can you make me one ?
Nigel Farage is a fan of this guy. That's all you need to know.
Kryykk Beware Hitler was a vegetarian and liked dogs -thats all you need to know
No, that's all YOU need to know and that's very obvious.
What DM says about Facebook towards the end of this excellent interview is absolutely correct.
A very well-articulated analysis of our current cultural and political climate. I especially enjoyed that metaphor of St. George and the desperate search for new dragons to slay.
I'm also glad to see Christopher Hitchens' "Portable Atheist" in the background on Douglas' bookshelf :)
31:15. The whole central theme about what's happening in the world at the moment.
He never seems to talk about Canada, where this mindset has been around at least since the 1960s. Despite that I agree with him
TWO HALF TRUTHS DO NOT MAKE TRUTH
Who is still on Facebook?!? I certainly never was for more than five minutes.
Same here Liz, full of so called experts who have every answer to every question in life. I would sooner learn intelligently from the likes of Douglas Murray, Jordan Peterson etc.