his last book was brilliant I have no doubt this one will be spot on and it is on order, he gives me hope for the return of sanity and the awakening amongst the young
@@craigfowler7098 JP was consistently very clear in his explanations if you take his old lecture material, however, in recent years, especially after his benzo stage, he often gets lost and consumed by his own articulative way of speaking and has difficult time getting the point across. sometimes, he does, but very very often he does not.
I think that most people would agree with him, but the media are paid for showing us otherwise. There is also the fear to speak up, but that does not mean that common sense is not widespread, just that it has been sent to clandestinity.
Katie Hopkins spoke about her private conversations with journalists and how they're held hostage in their jobs; that they dare not speak out for fear of reprisal and loss of income. How sad...
1st time listening to Douglas Murray. 12 minutes in and he already reminds me of Alan Watts. As a creative activist (through the medium of music) I feel compelled to fully explore this rabbit hole. This is a war against global attrition on reason itself. Abandoning reason is mental illness itself. Thank you for being true human beings 🙏
We need more people like Douglas and Julia! Here we are, approaching 4 years since this interview, and we are in an even darker and more dangerous place. Everything they said would happen, has happened. It is extremely worrying.
Agreed. The problem with judging people by "the content of their character" is that unlike in the 70s and 80s, it's now a settled debate. Some groups and communities have been proven to be totally lacking in character or any redeeming quality. One community in my opinion is a monolith of bad actors and poor characters. They can no longer wished to be judged by their character because they have none. I imagine MLK knew this at the time but hoped with time they'd overcome. It's utterly depressing and wholly hilarious to see them try to pretend.
@@kaptainhammer I imagine you have changed and the BBC has changed but do you think there's a chance the BBC and various media organisations were never much good? They may be bad in different ways today, but at least we have other sources of information which can help us see when they are only telling half the story or fibbing about the other half. I'll answer my own question, it's probably a bit of both.
As a gay man I find this dialogue very refreshing. I find myself at odds with some of the identity politics swirling around in the gay "community". There's a dangerous neo liberal fascism which is extremely disturbing and I salute those who counter this extremism with balanced and reasoned argument.
Well said Karl. As a woman, I am equally horrified by the neo-feminist movement which dictates that women are better than men and I am astonished to find that even some men seem to have fallen into submission and have accepted that it is socially acceptable for women to ridicule, belittle and put men (as a group entity) down and yet it is unacceptable for women to be criticised for this (unacceptable apparently because they tells us that we women are a suppressed group!). Regardless of our gender, sexuality, race, or religious identities, we are INDIVIDUALS first and foremost and should be judged as an individual.
My cousin who is a one of my closest friends came out last year in an extremely religious conservative family who are all close. He did in fact face a bit of stigma if im honest and I felt awful about it. But I've asked him and he's not even really sure that there is such thing as an 'lgbt' community. Would you agree? I meant I don't see any trans and lesbian friend groups at the cinema. Most of his friends are straight, he certainly doesn't select for an identity group. Is that a thing in your experience? Sorry for personal questions but this is fairly anonymous
@@georger64 thank you for your well thought out and considerable response. I've got his book on my Amazon and next time I send in an order I'm going to buy it. Sounds like if left to it the various shades of far left would gobble eachother up. In Soljinitzins Archipelago he describes all the various opposing factions of communism being rounded up after red October. But hey, utopia is never more than a few massacres away from being realised and everyone can finally live the Marxist dream
Thank God for people like you. I'm straight, marched with gay friends for gay rights back in the 80s but a good movement has gone too far to the other side. To the point that it's not good for anyone. Love to you all.X
Absolutely agree with David Williams and Maurice Cooper's comments . Douglas Murray is wonderful , so glad he shares his views and knowledge with us , thank you .
What I am most grateful for is that he is in our lifetime. Amongst all the total trash and utterly ridiculous minds living in the same world as ours it's wonderful we can help ourselves to exist by reading his books and listening to wise people like him. My son was in his teen yrs when he started reading his books and it set him on a path of reading, teaching himself about the world by listening to Douglad Murray and thinking sense abilities that will last a lifetime..
The conservative agenda is extremely limited by the lack of intelligent argument and the inability of its supporters to articulate the ideology. DM stands as an exception.
Yes it was - I wrote a separate Comment to say that so often he's introduced into the proceedings as a talking head - so you get sound bites, or he's held up as this raging old Tory in a very adversarial setting. I remarked that it was so good to be able to see him set out his stall and not have people constantly interrupting him with straw man arguments constantly trying to twist his words and frame them in ways he did not intend. This chat has significantly changed the way I see him
You seem quite eloquent to me, and I bet you share the other positive qualities you are projecting onto this guy. eg most people reject and pretend to despise qualities they secretly envy. You clearly don't, which shows great self acceptance and potential for awareness of your own limitations. This is the basis for compassion. So, I don't buy it 😜
"This is how most people think in the UK." And yet.....all of Europe over seems to find itself in this STEAMING PILE OF BEAUCRATIC SHIT..... Take it from an American. Ya not THAT smart, bloke ;)
As an elderly white male, this is so great to hear! It articulates stuff I have felt but didn't know how to define, and I thought there was something wrong with me.
Unfortunately he is one of few who have a voice and platform. :3 I can't believe this is what the world has coming to... the end of the species due to insanity from manipulation of language, lying to young people about their fertility.... focusing on nonsense rather than real and tangible things... :( It makes me depressed cus I hear these 2 having such a reasonable and sane conversation... and see so many others in media spewing out the opposite delusions.
LucyTV LucyTV it’s in short supply these days. And, when you actually speak common sense, you’re called a “boomer” as if that’s bad. Lol. I’d rather be anything other than useless, which is what a great portion of younger people are these days. Not all....but quite a few, 😂. Happy new year.
Make no mistake, "woke culture" is dying off. It simply cannot endure, people start to see that placating to these nutjobs is suicide, that they're attacking eachother for the dumbest shit. It will die in the mainstream, after that it's just important to get it out of the universities.
27:51 there‘s a great cartoon about this, a black guy saying to a white guy “You were never judged by the color of your skin!“ and the white guy says “I just was.“
This is the very reason why Julia won an award for her interviews she's so pragmatic , sensible, real and because of these things and her intelligence I watch her regularly.😊
She's wonderful around minute 23 talking about people saying that she can't speak about a topic. "You can't speak 'cause you're not black, you can't speak cause you're not gay ..." and then she says she plays the woman card, and you can just imagine someone turning and saying she's not a woman because something she has said in past doesn't fit what they think the woman's narrative should be.
Is there anyone out there who doubts this guy is a genius. Douglas Murray is so clearly the voice of reason, yet people still try to cancel and silence him.
But he has the guts not to be silenced! I so appreciate his intelligence, how articulate he is and how brave he is in the face of this endless craziness..
Julia is great to listen to aswell. How rare it is now to listen to a good well rounded sensible thoughtful conversation. Even if you don’t agree with everything everyone ever says 😂😂 it’s ok honest 😂
To me, Julia Hartley Interrupts and runs with what Douglas is already saying. I think that she is a most IRRITATING Interviewer... Apart from the very fast-talking, tall, NARCISSISTIC, Iranian, I believe woman. She Went for Douglas on a Q&A panel of 4-5. She is the Most IRRITATING PITBULL by far.
"When the situation had never been better it was suddenly portrayed as if it had never been worse"... _Damn_ that's hitting the nail on the head like no nail was ever hit before...
He would not be given the chance to speak. Whatever assembled lefties are out on the panel would interrupt and shout him down with record levels.of venom and volume.
THE BBC COULD NOT JUSTIFY HAVING HIM ON ANY BBC PROGRAM AFTER ALL HE TELLS THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH DOES NOT FIT THE NARRATIVE OF THE ESTABLISHMENT.......
Children' raised ' by two lesbians or homsexuals will be a burden to the state later in life.We are meddling with human lives and the very core of our being.The 'left- will just continue with their challenge to alter our way of life untill the ultimate happens.The eventual demise of the human species as we knew it.
Ms. Hartley-Brewer needs to shut up long enough for Mr. Murray to set up his perspective and deliver his point.... He is getting no traction. She yaps too much.. Douglas is a deep thinker.
It’s a pleasure to hear a conversation that brings a ancient word lost in time called TRUTHFULNESS.. And during the interview Julia doesn’t interrupt so much.
"Is being black simply the first step to some massive political movement?" Bloody hell he must have been sitting on a crystal ball when he wrote this book. Great interview.
How absolutely delightful to sit and listen to two intelligent people discuss a difficult subject and offer a start toward a solution. Enjoyed every minute of this program. Love seeing and hearing two of my favorites together.
I was on the edge of despair - but now, having listened to this discussion, I stand strong in my conviction that sanity will prevail. I'll sleep tonight.
That statement accurately sums up the state of western culture- we’ve never had it so good in virtually all categories and yet we act as if we’ve never had it so bad
@@franckiewicz0831 completly agree mate! the wow at the end threw me off buddy... i blame twitter and the hysterical guardian reading intersectional labour (communist supporter) voters
I’ve shared on Twitter but this should be shown in schools, universities, corporate organisations (they wouldn’t need Stonewall), Parliament, in fact anywhere where there are likely to be lots of people. He should be an advisor to the government, maybe they could learn a thing or two about what is happening in society today. Well done Julia and Douglas and Talk TV. 👍👏
Wonderful points raised, and sadly in 2023, they're still at the forefront. I could say a lot, but instead, I'll simply say THANK YOU to the host and guest.
@@williamwilson8582 On one to one interviews she slows right down, listens and doesn't interrupt. The opposite of what she does on air which is interminably annoying. This format makes her much more relatable.
@@BridgeToGantry Fair comment . It goes to show that if she were more rational in all interviews she could achieve better results and a bigger audience .
The bit at the end around 52 minutes when he says why aren't students at university studying how we can live in underwater cities is legendary. We need young people thinking about more important subjects that will help continue the human race not destroy it.
Douglas Murray has been blessed with a super brain & is spreading honesty, practical commonsense. He has an essential voice that has to be heard by all of society, as soon as possible.
This is the most refreshing discussion I have heard since our dear Roger Scruton passed away who always spoke bravely on so many important issues and gave his thoughts to be heard. Thank you Douglas Murray for your input to such dire circumstances that we are all facing.
It is now against the law to tell the TRUTH ... We are not allowed to say" that guy dressed as woman is a pervert" .... He cannot be a woman ... He has a totally different bone structure and biological make up ... A woman's body is designed to produce babies ... and there is no way that any man knows what it's like when a young girl hits puberty, and has her first period, or what a woman goes through on the change of life ... Because both those things affect different women different ways....
The fact that Murray and people like him aren’t given a platform at every conceivable opportunity is one of the greatest condemnations of our current culture.
Zionists against identity politics are given a platform, unlike actual British nationalists. Because their primary function is to defend liberalism, prevent nationalism and keep Brits and Europeans in general on the judeo-liberal plantation.
Well,@@bustedfender that's not what is suggested, only SOME exposure to this logic, rather than the current case, as highlighted as the subject of the book. Does that clarify things for you?
Douglas Murray is the reason I subscribe to the Spectator, he writes a weekly column that never fails to amaze me with its clarity. He writes with an innate sense of what is right and what is really happening.
@@danpearce4547 Someone's getting the knack of inclusive, gender-neutral writing! Well done. Down side is it sometimes leads to a lack of clarity like this when no one's identified by name. Good on Mako, though, for also incorporating the "royal we." Kudos! Extra points!
@@ebberman7672 My bad. I thought the use of "one" was similar to the royal "we," but it's not. I gather it's part of a third person perspective. Sounds so alike sometimes, though.
@@RonaldArthurDewhirst I see that your reply was "1 week ago," so that means at least a week ago and less than a month ago. It's possible that @shut beak responded to you. The problem is that both you and @shut beak did not specify who you are responding to. For reasons I do not know, about half the time I reply to someone, TH-cam puts up "@Somebody," as happened in your reply to me and my reply to you that I am currently writing. But the other half of the time, TH-cam does not specify which "@Somebody" user I am replying to. If it doesn't automatically come up, I always physically write in the "@Somebody" I am replying to. Sometimes I am replying to multiple people, in which case I physically write in the @Somebody-TheAdditionalPerson in my reply, so that whoever I want a reply from is aware I'm talking to them. In the meantime, while you are waiting for a response, I specifically asked you: "What would _you_ end your statement with?" And, like you, I'm still waiting for a response from _you_ .
Thank you, Julia. An excellent discussion. Douglas Murray is one of the few sane, articulate public figures with the moral courage to confront our societal issues honestly. You never know, with some of your guests, you could do a Joe Rogan and go on for several hours! I could've listened to a much longer conversation. Great stuff. More please.
What an extraordinary conversation, I too feel and wish that this conversation lasted at least 3 more hours. Thank you so very much for reminding us of the foolishness of this society. God speed
He’s occasionally allowed on BBC but only if he’s vastly outnumbered and attacked by a lefty interviewer. This is so refreshing where he’s allowed to speak and not shouted down by a lefty interviewer.
I have never heard so much common sense spoken in such a short space of time. It comforts me greatly.....ordering Douglas's book straight away. Thank you.
Can't beat Douglas Murray, much as I'd like to see him do hour-long interviews like this every week. part of the reason he's so good, is that he disappears for months at a time carefully diligently researching his books and Spectator columns. His insights are better for it, and his arguments are rock solid. If only more journalists worked like him, rather than grasping for the first half baked thoughts to fill the 24hr rolling news and so-called opinion pieces
@@acropolisnow9466 Bezmenov warned about a conspiracy by the USSR to make communist converts out of their capitalist superpower rival. The USSR no longer exists however, it has ceased to exist for a long time. Even if the conspiracy was already set into motion, and even if that explains some of the state of society today (which seems a bit far fetched), still, those who started it are no longer around in power to see it through to its conclusion and execute the latter steps.
@@kirklandau2826 Putin himself is ex KGB. In fact many of the government officials in the USSR picked up prominent political positions in government and the army. To claim the there was a clean cut after the USSR fell is naive at best.
I have heard much about how I should listen to Julia and haven't. I came here to hear from Douglas Murray and am incredibly impressed by both of them. Bravo!The BBC is long gone for me; I no longer have a licence. They changed, I didn't. This channel looks to be an excellent alternative. Thank you!
There's nothing better than listening to the intelligent conversation from one of the greatest intellects we have in Douglas Murry. We now live in a world where most of us have a device in our pockets that gives us access to every conceivable item of knowledge, music, culture and truth, the downside is that it gives everything access to us.
keep the podcasts coming. We all need to think about things more and exercise our natural instincts which works out to be common sense! We need more of it.
audience2 I am ready SDOE at the moment very eye opening you can have no doubt Douglas Murray has actually been to see and talk with these people he mentions his knowledge is earned and his witty intelligent prose has me swinging from despair to black humour to exasperation if only we had more like him I can’t wait to read his next book.
Thankyou for this discussion. So refreshing to hear stable open discussion of our wonderful world. Keep these discussion going our world needs more of this.
Douglas Murray a voice of sanity among the wailing of one world maniacs.
Douglas Murray 'The only voice' worth listening to
@@chrisneedham5803 Agree but would add Sargon to that very small group, + David Starkey
his last book was brilliant I have no doubt this one will be spot on and it is on order, he gives me hope for the return of sanity and the awakening amongst the young
@@forearthbelow ....... 100%👍
well stated Euphemism.
Douglas Murray is one of the clearest and most articulate thinkers of our time
Agreed, up there with JP
👍👍👍
@@craigfowler7098 JP was consistently very clear in his explanations if you take his old lecture material, however, in recent years, especially after his benzo stage, he often gets lost and consumed by his own articulative way of speaking and has difficult time getting the point across. sometimes, he does, but very very often he does not.
He's good. However he would be first to acknowledge the late great Christopher, Hitchens as ' The Man!
@@craigfowler7098No. Up there with CH. The late briiant, Christopher Hitchens ❤
The saddest thing about this conversation is that not enough people have seen it. Respect to them both.👍🏻
Nope, the saddest thing about this is that it is being discussed at all.
That's what I thought. It should be shown in all schools. Excellent discussion.
@@alisonbrown2614 but it never will!!!
@@lynneweddle7254 Probably not!
The SaddeR thing is the People who Watched it/will Watch it are Already of Sound mind !
Love Douglas Murray a very brave man who simply speaks common sense in a mad world
bit more than common sense
a welcome change
I think that most people would agree with him, but the media are paid for showing us otherwise. There is also the fear to speak up, but that does not mean that common sense is not widespread, just that it has been sent to clandestinity.
And we need both DM and TR
Katie Hopkins spoke about her private conversations with journalists and how they're held hostage in their jobs; that they dare not speak out for fear of reprisal and loss of income. How sad...
I’m a middle aged woman, who loves Douglas Murray.
I could listen to him forever.
Me too
I’m an old straight white man and would love to have a few beers with this dude.
1st time listening to Douglas Murray. 12 minutes in and he already reminds me of Alan Watts. As a creative activist (through the medium of music) I feel compelled to fully explore this rabbit hole. This is a war against global attrition on reason itself. Abandoning reason is mental illness itself. Thank you for being true human beings 🙏
I’m a retired Canadian woman who loves to listen to him debate and speak - absolutely brilliant ♥️🇨🇦
Same here.
We need more people like Douglas and Julia! Here we are, approaching 4 years since this interview, and we are in an even darker and more dangerous place. Everything they said would happen, has happened. It is extremely worrying.
Agreed. The problem with judging people by "the content of their character" is that unlike in the 70s and 80s, it's now a settled debate. Some groups and communities have been proven to be totally lacking in character or any redeeming quality. One community in my opinion is a monolith of bad actors and poor characters. They can no longer wished to be judged by their character because they have none. I imagine MLK knew this at the time but hoped with time they'd overcome. It's utterly depressing and wholly hilarious to see them try to pretend.
You know it’s not the BBC when 2 people in a room have common sense
Stop lying Textured Music. And stop hiding behind a fake name as you lie.
How far we've come... As I used to look to the BBC for some non biased opinion. That was 25 years ago
@@rogerclark3229 yes stop lying Textured Music. We all know it's you, _90s heartthrob Jonathan Taylor Thomas_
X-D !!
@@kaptainhammer I imagine you have changed and the BBC has changed but do you think there's a chance the BBC and various media organisations were never much good? They may be bad in different ways today, but at least we have other sources of information which can help us see when they are only telling half the story or fibbing about the other half. I'll answer my own question, it's probably a bit of both.
As a gay man I find this dialogue very refreshing. I find myself at odds with some of the identity politics swirling around in the gay "community".
There's a dangerous neo liberal fascism which is extremely disturbing and I salute those who counter this extremism with balanced and reasoned argument.
Well said Karl. As a woman, I am equally horrified by the neo-feminist movement which dictates that women are better than men and I am astonished to find that even some men seem to have fallen into submission and have accepted that it is socially acceptable for women to ridicule, belittle and put men (as a group entity) down and yet it is unacceptable for women to be criticised for this (unacceptable apparently because they tells us that we women are a suppressed group!). Regardless of our gender, sexuality, race, or religious identities, we are INDIVIDUALS first and foremost and should be judged as an individual.
My cousin who is a one of my closest friends came out last year in an extremely religious conservative family who are all close. He did in fact face a bit of stigma if im honest and I felt awful about it.
But I've asked him and he's not even really sure that there is such thing as an 'lgbt' community. Would you agree? I meant I don't see any trans and lesbian friend groups at the cinema. Most of his friends are straight, he certainly doesn't select for an identity group. Is that a thing in your experience? Sorry for personal questions but this is fairly anonymous
@@georger64 thank you for your well thought out and considerable response. I've got his book on my Amazon and next time I send in an order I'm going to buy it. Sounds like if left to it the various shades of far left would gobble eachother up.
In Soljinitzins Archipelago he describes all the various opposing factions of communism being rounded up after red October. But hey, utopia is never more than a few massacres away from being realised and everyone can finally live the Marxist dream
Thank God for people like you. I'm straight, marched with gay friends for gay rights back in the 80s but a good movement has gone too far to the other side. To the point that it's not good for anyone. Love to you all.X
They are all dangerous commies. Pride excluded UKIP years back I Knew it was being used politically to ignore civil unrest
This intelligent man represents the majority of people in this country who are unheard.
He's just brilliant..AND..RIGHT.
Absolutely agree with David Williams and Maurice Cooper's comments . Douglas Murray is wonderful , so glad he shares his views and knowledge with us , thank you .
What I am most grateful for is that he is in our lifetime. Amongst all the total trash and utterly ridiculous minds living in the same world as ours it's wonderful we can help ourselves to exist by reading his books and listening to wise people like him. My son was in his teen yrs when he started reading his books and it set him on a path of reading, teaching himself about the world by listening to Douglad Murray and thinking sense abilities that will last a lifetime..
I so agree with you. His deep understanding of basic human condition is astounding. And his ability to communicate , there are no words.
The conservative agenda is extremely limited by the lack of intelligent argument and the inability of its supporters to articulate the ideology. DM stands as an exception.
Douglas Murray and Julia Hartley-Brewer in conversation. Brilliant! They should have a weekly slot.
@Lord Christmas And I must be a Nazi sympathiser for liking your comment
@Kojii Naz yasmin Abigail ,,,,, modern Britain MSM sees fit have her on TV all time ,,enough said
Definetly it would be a hit definetly💯
It was refreshing to see douglas treated respectfully for a change.
Yes it was - I wrote a separate Comment to say that so often he's introduced into the proceedings as a talking head - so you get sound bites, or he's held up as this raging old Tory in a very adversarial setting.
I remarked that it was so good to be able to see him set out his stall and not have people constantly interrupting him with straw man arguments constantly trying to twist his words and frame them in ways he did not intend.
This chat has significantly changed the way I see him
Especially about illegal immigration which is having a devastating affect on this country.
I envy this man's eloquence, his compassionate, critical oversight and understanding of the world we are drowning in. Thank you Douglas Murray.
👍👍👍
You seem quite eloquent to me, and I bet you share the other positive qualities you are projecting onto this guy. eg most people reject and pretend to despise qualities they secretly envy. You clearly don't, which shows great self acceptance and potential for awareness of your own limitations. This is the basis for compassion.
So, I don't buy it 😜
Um envy or admire??
Even inspired 🙏🏽
@@uberbeast113🙏🏽
Are you watching BBC, this is a proper interview. This is how most people think in the UK. Some good old-fashioned sense of mind.
I agree, did you see the way Julia asked a question and then let him answer? very rare these days
They probably were watching. That would explain why they've not mentioned.
"This is how most people think in the UK."
And yet.....all of Europe over seems to find itself in this STEAMING PILE OF BEAUCRATIC SHIT.....
Take it from an American. Ya not THAT smart, bloke ;)
David Calow - Its an opinion piece dressing up as an interview
Matthew Morton Don’t get to cocky Matthew. We are going the same direction.😑
Wow,so great to see Douglas back.
He looks very thin, was he ill?
I’ve missed him as well
If only we had leaders in establishments with the intelligence and common sense of Douglas Murray - always a pleasure to listen to.
26:00 exactly blacks sold another
Those leaders are intelligent, but they are corrupted.
@@patrickliu822 Then they are really not that intelligent in the big picture.
If you take a woman and cut her balls off, is she still a woman ?
Thats why centre right wing parties will grow
Superb conversation! This should be aired in schools, colleges and universities throughout the UK
That will.never happen it would risk people being properly educated
throughout the US as well
I'm gonna sit down with my teenage daughter and watch this again definetly💯👏
Andrew Housley And the US. And Canada. And Australia, New Zealand....
too right though I fear de platforming plebs have there sordid way
As an elderly white male, this is so great to hear! It articulates stuff I have felt but didn't know how to define, and I thought there was something wrong with me.
exactly right
Well said sir, me too.
@Mactrip100 Thanks! Yes, I'm gammon.
You are not alone - bless you
I'm only 47 but I know exactly how you feel. You're not alone xx
This lady needs to be a debate moderator!!! Praise to her!
Discussions like this should be widely available on MSM.
It's on MSM. Douglas Murray is ubiquitous
Nice, two of my favourite people on screen together 👌
Same 👍
Could not agree more.
Absolutely.
Quite exquisite isn't it, two people being civil to each other for a change.. I wonder if it could catch on??
@Boris Farage OK friend.
Love love love Julia Hartley-Brewer. Best interview of Douglas Murray ever. From 2019.....even truer today in 2024
I love this man. The voice of reason in a mad world.
Unfortunately he is one of few who have a voice and platform. :3
I can't believe this is what the world has coming to... the end of the species due to insanity from manipulation of language, lying to young people about their fertility.... focusing on nonsense rather than real and tangible things... :(
It makes me depressed cus I hear these 2 having such a reasonable and sane conversation... and see so many others in media spewing out the opposite delusions.
is it sane to want to put your willy up another mans bottom
it sounds like madness to me lara
Identity is character not group Douglas Murray is an outspoken atheist.
@@ohwellwhateverr
Identity isn't character, merely an aspect of character.
There's a line in every sentence and every answer he gives, which you can't hear when he is being trampled upon by helpless wokists.
I love Douglas, SO much COMMON SENSE. Please..... Bring back COMMON SENSE!!
LucyTV LucyTV it’s in short supply these days. And, when you actually speak common sense, you’re called a “boomer” as if that’s bad. Lol. I’d rather be anything other than useless, which is what a great portion of younger people are these days. Not all....but quite a few, 😂. Happy new year.
Make no mistake, "woke culture" is dying off. It simply cannot endure, people start to see that placating to these nutjobs is suicide, that they're attacking eachother for the dumbest shit. It will die in the mainstream, after that it's just important to get it out of the universities.
We are probably incapable of bringing back what was very rarely ever there.
This is a constant conversation I’ve been having with my children. I consider it my duty to fight against this evil indoctrination.
Sounds like you’re the one indoctrinating
@@Toasty5386 So you have been captured by this ideology then? 😢 that you can’t think for yourself 🤷♀️
Me too - but it's hard to fight indoctrination
@@Toasty5386A ridiculous comment
Great goal. I have no kids, but I gladly fight by your side against this madness
So refreshing to see two intelligent people talking frankly about the stupidity of modern society.
Can anyone suggest an era which was more stupid than the one we find ourselves in now?
@@martinloney6322Ancient Rome?
@@Rose-zn5ql Close but not quite as insane.
Yes and Yes. They are smart and describing the current situation accurately.
27:51 there‘s a great cartoon about this, a black guy saying to a white guy “You were never judged by the color of your skin!“ and the white guy says “I just was.“
👏👏👏👏
The racism in the U.K Is white against white people that is sinister.
They planned a
million- white -man March on Washington DC.
Nobody showed up.
They were working.
@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 Do you mean by that quote that white people in America are not politically motivated?
What a pointless quote!!!!
This is the very reason why Julia won an award for her interviews she's so pragmatic , sensible, real and because of these things and her intelligence I watch her regularly.😊
Douglas Murray is a Much needed voice in todays craziness
Within minutes I’m at ease, knowing Julia is not agenda driven and that Douglas is someone it’s important to listen to.
Free from the tyranny of being told "So what you're saying is..."
She is seeking truth, like Douglas, putting aside personal bias and opinion to drill down to ... what IS.
Men and women - equal but not identical.
She's wonderful around minute 23 talking about people saying that she can't speak about a topic. "You can't speak 'cause you're not black, you can't speak cause you're not gay ..."
and then she says she plays the woman card, and you can just imagine someone turning and saying she's not a woman because something she has said in past doesn't fit what they think the woman's narrative should be.
Spot on!!
"We've pretended that being a woman is a software issue." Absolutely amazing insight!
So refreshing to hear two intellignent people having a rational and humane conversation.
I will be buying this book
I will be buying this book, and so will my wife's boyfriend.
@@stevena3244 I've bought that book.
@@seanp8220 Nice😊
Buy the book and introduce it to your children... they are our future... the brainwashing has to stop.
@@astorrian6247 And don't overindulge your kids, that produces the entitlement that has plagued milenials!
Is there anyone out there who doubts this guy is a genius. Douglas Murray is so clearly the voice of reason, yet people still try to cancel and silence him.
But he has the guts not to be silenced! I so appreciate his intelligence, how articulate he is and how brave he is in the face of this endless craziness..
@@paulinegauthier1867There's a interview he just did with Lex Fridman..I only watched some of it, but def worth viewing!
Julia is great to listen to aswell. How rare it is now to listen to a good well rounded sensible thoughtful conversation.
Even if you don’t agree with everything everyone ever says 😂😂 it’s ok honest 😂
THATS WHY.
To me, Julia Hartley Interrupts and runs with what Douglas is already saying. I think that she is a most IRRITATING Interviewer... Apart from the very fast-talking, tall, NARCISSISTIC, Iranian, I believe woman. She Went for Douglas on a Q&A panel of 4-5.
She is the Most IRRITATING PITBULL by far.
"When the situation had never been better it was suddenly portrayed as if it had never been worse"... _Damn_ that's hitting the nail on the head like no nail was ever hit before...
Douglas Murray is well overdue a question time appearance
He would not be given the chance to speak. Whatever assembled lefties are out on the panel would interrupt and shout him down with record levels.of venom and volume.
THE BBC COULD NOT JUSTIFY HAVING HIM ON ANY BBC PROGRAM AFTER ALL HE TELLS THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH DOES NOT FIT THE NARRATIVE OF THE ESTABLISHMENT.......
Children' raised ' by two lesbians or homsexuals will be a burden to the state later in life.We are meddling with human lives and the very core of our being.The 'left- will just continue with their challenge to alter our way of life untill the ultimate happens.The eventual demise of the human species as we knew it.
Mactrip100 he's been on question time.
@@williammccormick2903 I know but not for at least 2 years.
I love Douglas Murray, the voice of reason in a world of madness
I cannot remember when I last heard such clarity of reason in an open discussion. These two deserve much more attention and respect.
Lex Fridman has some awesome guests on his channel and is a wonderfully thoughtful, balanced, inquisitive gentle guy.
This much sanity in under 1 hour will lead to quite a few heads exploding.
If lammy, owen jones, o brian and foggy watch this they will all explode
LOOLL
@@daveerwin6981 there not taking over shit being less than 1% of the population. Not everybody watches bbc you know
dave erwin I hope this post is satire 😂
Ms. Hartley-Brewer needs to shut up long enough for Mr. Murray to set up his perspective and deliver his point.... He is getting no traction.
She yaps too much.. Douglas is a deep thinker.
It’s a pleasure to hear a conversation that brings a ancient word lost in time called TRUTHFULNESS.. And during the interview Julia doesn’t interrupt so much.
"Is being black simply the first step to some massive political movement?" Bloody hell he must have been sitting on a crystal ball when he wrote this book. Great interview.
@bartley butsford weren't familiar with this . Have you a link
Thank God there are still people left in this world who are capable of rational thinking and able engage in constructive dialogue!
What a fantastic discussion about why we are such a mess with this identity madness
How absolutely delightful to sit and listen to two intelligent people discuss a difficult subject and offer a start toward a solution. Enjoyed every minute of this program. Love seeing and hearing two of my favorites together.
Always nice to listen to these two intelligent people in a world that is going completely mad. 👍
I was on the edge of despair - but now, having listened to this discussion, I stand strong in my conviction that sanity will prevail. I'll sleep tonight.
This is an interesting conversation. You never see open debates like this on TV anymore.
Not allowed to have debate now. Attempting to debate a logical or sensible view is going to be treated as hate crimes.
@@stewartanderson6560 Yes, these are the most important issues of our time... 😂
There should be more of them on all media outlets .😊
TV/newspapers etc is MSM. There will be no sane debate.
This is not a debate, it's just two people agreeing with each other.
Loved the interview. We all need more Douglas in our lives.
I very much appreciate that ;)
@@newhorizons4565 More Douglas? I'm spoiled like a fat baby.
Brilliant discussion. I hope that most of us agree with all these issues and that there are more of us than we know.
“When the situation has never been better it was suddenly portrayed as it had never been worse.”
Wow
Are you implying now isnt a great time to be alive?
That statement accurately sums up the state of western culture- we’ve never had it so good in virtually all categories and yet we act as if we’ve never had it so bad
@@franckiewicz0831 completly agree mate! the wow at the end threw me off buddy... i blame twitter and the hysterical guardian reading intersectional labour (communist supporter) voters
If you are looking for power by any means necessary, you pretend that everything is awful.
I loved the train analogy too.
I’ve shared on Twitter but this should be shown in schools, universities, corporate organisations (they wouldn’t need Stonewall), Parliament, in fact anywhere where there are likely to be lots of people. He should be an advisor to the government, maybe they could learn a thing or two about what is happening in society today. Well done Julia and Douglas and Talk TV. 👍👏
Wonderful points raised, and sadly in 2023, they're still at the forefront. I could say a lot, but instead, I'll simply say THANK YOU to the host and guest.
So, Julia - call him back in for another interview. I'll watch
Love listening to Douglas, always level headed, and honest and talks a lot of sense.
One of the very best yet. Putting into words the feelings of so many. Thank you Julia and Douglas.
This is the most sane conversation I've heard for the longest while. Thank you Julia and Douglas. I could have listened to the two of you for hours.
Thank you Julia and Douglas for such a sane, calm, wonderful discussion. It gives me so much hope to know that there are such people as you out there.
Probably the first time I have seen Julia both sane and calm .Someone must have slipped something to calm her down .
@@williamwilson8582 On one to one interviews she slows right down, listens and doesn't interrupt. The opposite of what she does on air which is interminably annoying. This format makes her much more relatable.
@@BridgeToGantry Fair comment . It goes to show that if she were more rational in all interviews she could achieve better results and a bigger audience .
The bit at the end around 52 minutes when he says why aren't students at university studying how we can live in underwater cities is legendary. We need young people thinking about more important subjects that will help continue the human race not destroy it.
Douglas Murray has been blessed with a super brain & is spreading honesty, practical commonsense. He has an essential voice that has to be heard by all of society, as soon as possible.
This is the most refreshing discussion I have heard since our dear Roger Scruton passed away who always spoke bravely on so many important issues and gave his thoughts to be heard. Thank you Douglas Murray for your input to such dire circumstances that we are all facing.
And today we are seeing it is getting worse
It is now against the law to tell the TRUTH ... We are not allowed to say" that guy dressed as woman is a pervert" .... He cannot be a woman ... He has a totally different bone structure and biological make up ... A woman's body is designed to produce babies ... and there is no way that any man knows what it's like when a young girl hits puberty, and has her first period, or what a woman goes through on the change of life ... Because both those things affect different women different ways....
Douglas is a gem ❤
I’m thankful that these sensible adults are having these conversations and reassuring us “majority” that the world has not gone completely mad.
The fact that Murray and people like him aren’t given a platform at every conceivable opportunity is one of the greatest condemnations of our current culture.
He is...Where did I first hear about him? On BBC radio.
The culture of MSN.
Zionists against identity politics are given a platform, unlike actual British nationalists. Because their primary function is to defend liberalism, prevent nationalism and keep Brits and Europeans in general on the judeo-liberal plantation.
Yes, he should be promoted over *everyone else* because you like his opinion.
Well,@@bustedfender that's not what is suggested, only SOME exposure to this logic, rather than the current case, as highlighted as the subject of the book. Does that clarify things for you?
Douglas Murray is the reason I subscribe to the Spectator, he writes a weekly column that never fails to amaze me with its clarity. He writes with an innate sense of what is right and what is really happening.
One cannot feel anything but admiration for this likeable, charismatic and sharp person.
*A beautiful mind!*
Which one, or both?
@@danpearce4547 Someone's getting the knack of inclusive, gender-neutral writing! Well done. Down side is it sometimes leads to a lack of clarity like this when no one's identified by name. Good on Mako, though, for also incorporating the "royal we." Kudos! Extra points!
@@dontpanic1812 - Royal We? No he doesn't. That's your imagination.
@@ebberman7672 My bad. I thought the use of "one" was similar to the royal "we," but it's not. I gather it's part of a third person perspective. Sounds so alike sometimes, though.
@@dontpanic1812 'one' means 'a person'.
Two legends.
Love his books - should be on the educational curriculum for secondary students!
Love seeing douglas. Since hitchens passed, he has been the biggest voice of reason and logic in our country
Passing the cigarette I mean torch
@Quincy Breed you are mightily wrong sir
@Quincy Breed watch the hitchens vs hitchens debate. You never cited anything neither.
What a terrific discussion! I would happily have listened to them for another hour.
Refreshing enlightening and straight forward talking. Soooo enjoyed this interview. Why dont the world listen and take note?
An open mind + common sense + intelligence + decency = the best people we have to run our society
Western society today is like a children’s party with no adults there.
Aptly and masterly put.
Middle East society is like a .....?
@@RonaldArthurDewhirst You wrote: "Middle East society is like a .....?"
What would _you_ end your statement with?
@@miyojewoltsnasonth2159 I'm still waiting for a response.
@@RonaldArthurDewhirst I see that your reply was "1 week ago," so that means at least a week ago and less than a month ago. It's possible that @shut beak responded to you.
The problem is that both you and @shut beak did not specify who you are responding to.
For reasons I do not know, about half the time I reply to someone, TH-cam puts up "@Somebody," as happened in your reply to me and my reply to you that I am currently writing. But the other half of the time, TH-cam does not specify which "@Somebody" user I am replying to.
If it doesn't automatically come up, I always physically write in the "@Somebody" I am replying to.
Sometimes I am replying to multiple people, in which case I physically write in the @Somebody-TheAdditionalPerson in my reply, so that whoever I want a reply from is aware I'm talking to them.
In the meantime, while you are waiting for a response, I specifically asked you: "What would _you_ end your statement with?"
And, like you, I'm still waiting for a response from _you_ .
My god it’s refreshing to listen to a woman that’s so based in common sense!!
She's been quite argumentative and abrasive towards people in the past, maybe she's slowly becoming more awakened to the truth.
@@MHLivestreams anyone that can show respect to Douglas Murray without being condescending and full of leftist ideology over facts, has my support.
I could listen to Douglas Murray all day. He's so intelligent and engaging.
I love these two people so dam much it literally hurts..they are like medicine to my ears and heart.
WALOFS. DM is excellent but the ghastly JH-B is. well, ghastly and grossly overrated.
Loved this ..Douglas Murray should be our pm ..
Thank you, Julia. An excellent discussion. Douglas Murray is one of the few sane, articulate public figures with the moral courage to confront our societal issues honestly. You never know, with some of your guests, you could do a Joe Rogan and go on for several hours! I could've listened to a much longer conversation. Great stuff. More please.
"when the situation had never been better, it was suddenly portrayed as if it had never been worse" SO TRUE
What an extraordinary conversation, I too feel and wish that this conversation lasted at least 3 more hours. Thank you so very much for reminding us of the foolishness of this society. God speed
Never heard any interviews with Douglas Murray before but I’m impressed he speaks a lot of sense
You should check him out . He's a very bright spark.
He’s occasionally allowed on BBC but only if he’s vastly outnumbered and attacked by a lefty interviewer. This is so refreshing where he’s allowed to speak and not shouted down by a lefty interviewer.
It is good to see good brains at work, discussing in an intelligent an constructive way! Refreshing!!!
I have never heard so much common sense spoken in such a short space of time. It comforts me greatly.....ordering Douglas's book straight away. Thank you.
Professor Jordan Peterson warned us about this years ago. Great conversation and will definitely buy Douglas Murrays new book. Thanks for the upload.
Fuck Jordan Peterson. If you look a little deeper, peterson IS THE PROBLEM.
Can't beat Douglas Murray, much as I'd like to see him do hour-long interviews like this every week. part of the reason he's so good, is that he disappears for months at a time carefully diligently researching his books and Spectator columns. His insights are better for it, and his arguments are rock solid. If only more journalists worked like him, rather than grasping for the first half baked thoughts to fill the 24hr rolling news and so-called opinion pieces
Could listen to both of them for hours
"Demoralising society", Douglas Murray is right on the money, yet again.
Demoralizing society geared toward the eventual destruction of western civilization.
@@hughjohnson4071 Toward what end? Why destroy Western Civilization?
the Bezmenov Effect
@@acropolisnow9466 Bezmenov warned about a conspiracy by the USSR to make communist converts out of their capitalist superpower rival. The USSR no longer exists however, it has ceased to exist for a long time. Even if the conspiracy was already set into motion, and even if that explains some of the state of society today (which seems a bit far fetched), still, those who started it are no longer around in power to see it through to its conclusion and execute the latter steps.
@@kirklandau2826 Putin himself is ex KGB. In fact many of the government officials in the USSR picked up prominent political positions in government and the army. To claim the there was a clean cut after the USSR fell is naive at best.
I have heard much about how I should listen to Julia and haven't. I came here to hear from Douglas Murray and am incredibly impressed by both of them. Bravo!The BBC is long gone for me; I no longer have a licence. They changed, I didn't. This channel looks to be an excellent alternative. Thank you!
"We can play the game endlessly, because it's unresolvable."
Brilliant
I really like to listen to Julia and Douglas. Two great people. I listen to them whenever I can.
There's nothing better than listening to the intelligent conversation from one of the greatest intellects we have in Douglas Murry.
We now live in a world where most of us have a device in our pockets that gives us access to every conceivable item of knowledge, music, culture and truth, the downside is that it gives everything access to us.
keep the podcasts coming. We all need to think about things more and exercise our natural instincts which works out to be common sense! We need more of it.
I could have watched a 24 hour interview with these two, simply superb.
The audiobook of his latest book is about 12 hours long. That and his previous book would provide 24 hours.
audience2 I am ready SDOE at the moment very eye opening you can have no doubt Douglas Murray has actually been to see and talk with these people he mentions his knowledge is earned and his witty intelligent prose has me swinging from despair to black humour to exasperation if only we had more like him I can’t wait to read his next book.
What a refreshing conversation, some common sense at last, definitely buying both of his books.
Great podcast! Always amazing to listen the brilliant Douglas Murray ❤ the Christopher Hitchens of our time
Wonderful discussion. Everywhere there is Orwell, boredom and narcissism.
you are so right
So, so refreshing and rare to listen to pure common sense! Loved it! Two of my favourite people.💕
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Thank you Douglas and Julia for speaking truth to madness.
Thanks Julia and Douglas for a most interesting discussion.
What a great conversation. Also really love Julia: such a refreshingly sane and sensible lady.
Thankyou for this discussion. So refreshing to hear stable open discussion of our wonderful world. Keep these discussion going our world needs more of this.
Fantastic as always from Douglas Murray. One of the most necessary voices in current times