Gaming on AMD's integrated GPU - testing the 680M in the Asus ROG Flow X13
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- Regarding integrated GPUs, #AMD seems to be lightyears ahead of Intel, and we put their most recent offering, the #680M, to test in a few games. So let's see if we can finally give you a definitive answer on whether you need a dedicated graphics card for casual gaming.
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Time Stamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:09 - Overview AMD 680M - Synthetic Performance
2:38 - Gaming Performance - Cyberpunk 2077
3:50 - Gaming Performance - Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
4:20 - Gaming Performance - Uncharted 4
5:00 - Gaming Performance - The Witcher 3
6:00 - Gaming Performance - Fortnite
7:40 - Battery Life
8:05 - Fan Noise + Noise Samples
8:40 - Summary
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Even the old grey Vega iGPU in my 5800H gaming laptop gave me some pleasant surprises. I sometimes forgot I was playing dynamic 1080p 60fps medium settings in fighting games and even clamping down TDP away from the wall could give me a adequate hour of Prey 2017 before going back to Netflix with enough gas in the tank.
It is often overlooked. I mean even us, we mainly test recent games, but with so many of us playing games that aren't AAA or even just older titles work remarkably well even on the integrated GPUs
Awesome review! I'm really looking forward to the M16 review since that's the one I'm buying.
Benchmarking it as we speak! 💪🏻
Awesome ! Will the video be up today ?
Good review. Was a bit surprised by how much power the igpu draws. Looks like battery life using that isn't too much better than using dgpu as you noted. Please do this for the upcoming 780M and one of nvidias 4000 series mobile cards as they seem quite power efficient. Even if early leaks suggest the new 780m is only 20% better.
When pushed it will draw every inch of power until maxing out the APU but if he choosed to limit the framerate to a solid rock 30 fps efficiency would have show and power consumption would have decrease greatly
@@danavidal8774 Good points. Wonder how much power at locked 30fps the apu and dgpu would draw though. Might the dgpu be more efficient? Or at locked 60fps. Since those are what single player games are commonly designed for.
Me too, to be honest. I was expecting something different. I will do this more in-depth for the upcoming 780m. That is a good point about limiting the fps. I will test this for the next one!
Cant wait to see your 4050 and 60 reviews in a few days
Oh yes, we are really curious ourselves how these will perform!
@@NotebookcheckReviews does 4050 with i5 better than this x13 ryzen 9 with integrated graphics
Thank you for another great video!
Our pleasure!
Apologies for this long post, I hope you won't get bored half way through!
I noticed your latest article about the Anker 737 on your website before coming to this video, which made me think of this.
I own a ROG X13 Supernova (2021). I love this laptop as I can travel light with it but it has its quirks.
I like to carry a single, light power supply to charge all my devices. I have a 100W from Anker, a 70W from Ugreen, a 65W from Anker and a 20W from Anker, all with at least a USB-C output. I'll pick the one I need when traveling depending on the occasion.
All of them do charge the laptop. If the power is less than some limit (around 40W), the little charging icon in the Taskbar won't show up, but the battery level will still go up (if the laptop power consumption is low enough). This is all good.
The problem is as follows:
100W charger: works well in any config.
70W charger: works well when the charger only serves the laptop. However when another device is connected to the charger, the laptop frequency drops to 300MHz.
65W charger: always 300MHz
20W charger: always 300MHz.
That's fine if the computer is turned off as it charges normally. But if I need to use the laptop, I can't work with 300MHz.
Have you noticed this issue as well?
While we haven't done a test with 3rd party chargers, it seems like your chargers can simply not supply enough wattage in certain scenarios.
@@NotebookcheckReviews I'd love to see other people comment on that MHz loss as it's the first time I see this. And it's the only visible effect: the screen works normally, all the i/o, etc.. The computer should rely on its battery regardless of the charger wattage and thus, it should not affect MHz.
Literally the best Laptop Ive ever owned. Good workstation on the go, decent gaming performance, 3 in 1 functionality. Love it.
I also like it a lot! Especially when you factor in the XG Mobile too!
Slim 2-in-1 on the go - check
Powerful workstation docked - check
@@NotebookcheckReviews cant wait to see how the performance of the 2023 version gonna be with the RTX 4070. RTX 3080 Laptop performance in a 60 Watts chip is promised I heard. Sounds too good to be true. Also battery life is crazy on mine, got like 10+ h doing work/ browsing and netflix.
I was so surprised when I saw they will put a 4070 in there 🤯
The display also looks promising!
@NotebookcheckReviews I had the 2021 model, and it was really good until the XG Mobile physically got stuck to the port, requiring a mail-in repair to fix the motherboard (my data was safe though).
The Asus ROG Flow x13, Zephyrus G14, and Alienware's upcoming m16, m18, and x16 are the only good Ryzen 7000 options right now, which is pathetic for OEMs to do. I mean, I don't want 3 - 5 hours of light use on battery just to get slightly better performance than Ryzen 7040/7045. This is only going to worsen OEMs sales. I mean, I want competition, but I don't see that this year...
Can't wait having AMD Phoenix! The 780M will be even better.
Let’s hope so, rumors have been quite mixed!
So looking forward to it.
Benchmarks look same same.
@@NotebookcheckReviews please bring back the old laptop GPU benchmarks on your website thank you
@@NotebookcheckReviews the final drivers have yet to be released no?
I have the X16 and I usually game on the iGPU(I mostly play indie games though). It reduces fan noise drastically and temps, making the laptop quieter. For more demanding games, I don't think it's worth it, unless you are running on battery. Going under 60fps in games feels bad, at least for me.
Maybe it's worth mention that is not possible to use an external monitor on iGPU mode.
Interesting use case! And good point about the external display, I didn’t test it to be honest. But I guess they are all wired to the dGPU?!
@@NotebookcheckReviews Yes, that's correct, if you try to plug it in Asus' Eco Mode you'll get an error message :/.
Disappointed about the 2023 x16 though.
Why?
@@NotebookcheckReviews Battery life will almost certainly be much worse than the 2022 model. If there was even an option for AMD Ryzen, I'd take it, but now I'm probably just going to keep waiting for a Ryzen 7000 & RTX 4000 laptop in the 16/18 inch range...
The 2024 models for this are gonna be sick. Rumors point to a 40CU variant of strix point in 2024. If true, we would have RTX 4060 performance level for an iGPU. It would make the x13 into a beast.
Does iGPU like that suitable for Task like Video Convert or maybe Exporting?
I haven’t tested any content creation application this time around, but I can keep it in mind for AMDs upcoming Chips.
Based on my experience working with Resolve for our videos, it doesn’t run that well on iGPUs. But again, I do not have any verifiable Data in this case!
The iGPU is good for things like Intel's Quick Sync would be good for (as long as you don't use Adobe's shitty apps) and I would say that with Ryzen 7000 things would be even better, however I cannot find any good 16/18 inch Ryzen 7000 laptops that are not from Alienware...
what wasd the performance in battery testing, because most times the NVIDIA GPUs will cap themselves because of the lack of power (although that might not be a problem here)
and was the 680M configured to have good RAM allocation and power settings
it's still dissapointing that even whit great iGPUs there isn't simple software solutions to change this, hopefully ASUS does at one point because their Armoury Crate is pretty good
great video, it's hard to find comparison on laptops with their 2 GPUs
I didn't test the power levels on battery this time around. But I will gladly put it on the list as soon as we get devices with the 780M in the studio.
Thanks for the kind words. The Flow was the perfect candidate to test this.
I wouldn't mind a smaller Asus flow 13 with just and AMD CPU/eGPU
Hi, how did you managed to turn off dgpu and force the laptop to work only on igpu ??
I have a rog strix with the same cpu and rtx 3060 and I can't find this option anywhere.
Definitely it's non in the bios.
There is an option in Armory Crate where you can toggle GPU behaviour!
@@NotebookcheckReviews Found it, nice one.
Thanks for the tip !
Sure thing!
Hi, with AMD Radeon 680m can I run 5K Display ? Do you know ? I can't find this Information anywhere.
this laptop supports displayport 1.4 so yes it can run 10k
Can you test more games?
Specifically would like to see Spiderman/Horizon Zero Dawn at Medium 720p & 1080p. Witcher 3 1.3 vs 4 (next gen) would also be interesting to see
We will do this more in-depth for the upcoming 780M!
@@NotebookcheckReviews thank you!
@@NotebookcheckReviews Try Returnal too since it should be out by then
is it too small to gaming on 13inch laptop like this? thinking of getting one
I would say that's a very personal thing. I think it's ok, but if I would primarily game on a notebook I would probably like something larger. If you only game occasionally I would say it's alright.
@@NotebookcheckReviews i see, thanks for sharing, i hope it's not too small for other task like watching youtube or video editing
@NotebookcheckReviews hi I'm looking for a notebook using this 980M without a discrete GPU (excluding U processors and only H, HS & HX), with an oled screen, high resolution, metal body, good battery life and 13 inches. I'll be grateful if you can point me to any.
Mh, considering there aren't actually that many SKUs even with the 6800U your options will be limited. There are configs of the Flow X13 that come without the dedicated NVIDIA GPU.
@@NotebookcheckReviews ooh really, what website can I see these configs? I have checked Newegg, but didn't see one.
I would start at your „local“ ROG website. It might be that they not offered it in every market.
@@NotebookcheckReviews okay, thank you very much.
I later found some close to it like
2022 Lenovo Yoga Slim 7/7i Pro X 14
Lenovo ThinkPad Z13/Z16
Asus VivoBook S 14X OLED M5402
Asus VivoBook Pro 14X M6400
Kind of dumb for you to use the 3050 dGPU as the comparison point. Should have used the Xe iGPU.
I wouldn't call the estimated 25% increase of the 780M marginal. But of course it depends how much memory bandwidth and power it gets.
Yeah, there have been mixed rumors in the meantime. Well, we will see!
Old news. Latest benchmarks show us its within spitting distance. I’m disappointed, but it makes sense.
@@beliveinurself what benchmarks?
@@verygoodbrother i.imgur.com/dPAo1Sa.png
Portable, powerful, beautiful Rog flow
It is a very nice, small laptop!
Don't know if is it only me but this vid was very low volume.
Thank you for letting us know! We will look into it!
Can I play FIFA 23 on this laptop
I can not see why you shouldnt be able do so!
I wish there's a 32gb ram version of this laptop...
There is!
@@NotebookcheckReviews where? I want one without the DGPU, just the 680m
Ah ok, I think you can only get the 32 gigs with the 4K panel and the 3050ti. Sorry, I did know that you want it without the dGPU
@@NotebookcheckReviews i think I can just disable the DGPU to save battery life.... Maybe I should do that
Yes, that is how I did it, when I was testing it!
Alex is the best
:D thanks Allan!
Great processor, too bad it's been basically inexistent so far 😪
Number 1 problem with those chips! Same with their mobile GPUs unfortunately!