ROG FLOW 2023 X13 Cooling Mods - More cooling = more power
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2024
- I improved the cooling on my X13 using a few different methods. This allows cooler temps and more power throughput for better performance.
For reference the copper heatsink block dimensions were 40x40x2mm
Amazon copper heatsink:
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Great video, the fact that I came here only after looking at tons of reviews about X13 just shows me that TH-cam algorithm really doesn't work in favor of smaller creators no matter how much work and effort they put on specific product.
I will do fan filter mod, I always clean out laptops every 6 months. The mesh looks highly restrictive. Mod easily reversable. CPU tdp tweak to 20w, tent mode. Job done. Very nice guide.
Awesome video!! Thanks for your work on this
Videos like this are why I love your channel. Keep it up!
Great video. What heat pad did you use between the heat sink and the foil?
Can't wait for your 4070 x13 review. Do you know when it'll be posted?
This is so neat!
Any plans to get the 2023 x16 for a review and mods? I'd love to see!
Luckily the x16 doesn't need cooling mods like this to get great performance, it's a really nice machine with great cooling out of the box. I had it for a week or two before the 4070 x13 finally launched... I sent it back within the return window once I could finally get the x13 though. I wish I would have had time to do a video on it.
@@cbutters Aww dang. I was really hoping you were going to do a review on it. But still I love all your flow content. I think they are the future!
Great video wish you'd kept the Zenbook 14 pro so we could have more head to head videos and see how it held up long term. Also what made you switch as the X13 seems like a downgrade in most aspects?
You're right, the screen is a downgrade and the performance is a downgrade because the cooling and power limits are so much better on the Zenbook Pro Oled. I had to return it because I discovered it had several stuck red pixels, and there was no more in stock at that time. That and I realized I still really prefer having a device that can become a tablet, so when the X13 4070 became available, I had to jump on it.
Great mod idea! I just did this mod and gained some FPS in Cyberpunk and Starfield, when I was originally CPU bottlenecked with the 6800HS+XG RTX 3080 at 1440p (and 3440x1440). How has the copper tape held up over the months? I'm a bit worried the adhesive will loosen with the heat and cause a short.
Foil tape is made to stay put in situations with heat changes. Never used it like this, but I've used it on motorcycles and it never comes loose as long as you make sure the surface you are putting in on is clean and dry.
I am very curious. How does the 2023 Asus X13, before and after mod, performance and heat compare to the Asus Z13 2023 model with same spec?
thanks for the video! Just a quick question, is it possible to charge the laptop through the XG-Mobile USB-C Port with the included power adapter?
Yes.
I had to get rid of my x13 reletively fast because of the thermal issues it had. I went to a z13 which was much better in thermals and performance, I had the z13 for about half a year then I sold it and got a Traditional Laptop the MSi GE67 with OLED Panel. The MSi has better cooling than both of the ASUS machines I owned. There was nothing wrong with the Z13 but it did still get too hot for my liking. This new Msi Machine is always below 80c which is what I like to see, even though I really dont like MSi that much as a company the laptop I currently own is a good product. I also have a MSi GPU which has done very well the past year I have had it.
Very interesting, also very curious how you measured these watts gpu connsumption ? Software ?
hwinfo + hwinfo log viewer
cool that u could improve the cooling, but with my device it always hits 60 Watts, when I dial down the CPU TDP, the laptop stays cool enough to maintain this
Great idea and great execution. You are just a genius.
I immediately wanted to do the same with my x16 2022. Can you tell me what size radiator (primarily thickness) is needed for it?
Thanks for the praise I couldn't tell you the size of the x16 2022 as I don't have one in hand currently
@@cbutters What size radiator did you use for x13? In theory, I can take the same for x16, and compensate for the difference in thickness with an elastic thermal pad.
@@indifferenceytb9530 it was a 40x40x2mm
@@cbutters Thank you very much, I'll try to find about the same size
10:35 Usually, this part doesn't get hot at all as these are intake fans (it exhausts hot air from the rear, or from the top vents if you put it in 'tent mode), it's the area that's right below it that gets really warm when playing etc.
I got the same config - 4970hs\32gb\4070 2 days ago, it's a very solid laptop.
Initially, I wanted to get the Zenbook Pro 14 at first, but I needed *pen support for notes taking.
And now wondering whether I should sell my desktop (R5900x\32GB\2080) and just get an XG Mobile station instead. It would make sense to get a base version X13 to offset some of the costs, considering I'd have a proper GPU at home and my laptop would be "extra portable" without the power consumption of a dGPU, but sadly, ASUS doesn't make base models with 32gb of ram.
BTW, does AIDA64 work for you? Asking because I get a BSOD whenever I mess around with it and it tries to fetch some system data, and the error seems to be driver related. Can you run the memory benchmark?
* The ZP14 having "pen support" without being able to rotate at least 180 deg really doesn't help at all, and the version with the dual screens costs an arm and a leg)
I have similar plans as recently I bought 2022 X16 base model along with Mini LED, after 1.5 or 2 yrs I will get Radeon XGmobile and a 4k monitor. But my second thoughts regarding the pricing in my country, I might build PC if I'm settling down orelse just the gpu and monitor will be fine.
great video, it would be great if you could try some gpu undervolting which could improve power usage and heat generation
I'm definitely doing this as well. so far I can push the voltage curve with a 250mhz difference and its stable, so 4070 overclocks really well.
@@cbutters great to hear! would like to hear your opinion about a choice flow x13 4070 vs flow z13 4060. overall i believe z13 is better in gaming since it has a vaper chamber with a better cpu but the huge battery, extra ram and charge ability in both sides keeps me lean towards the x13 not to mention better keyboard and trackpad. was hoping undervolting on the x13 might improve what it's lacking. thanks in advance for all the great videos it's really helping
How is this MOD holding after this many months later?
your videos are amazing and the analisys really backup evertyhing you do.
Still going strong. No issues with the modification
@@cbutters do you mind letting us know what copper foil and what thickness of thermal pad did you use there?
also would you say that applying liquid metal in the GPU and the GPU ram would be a good idea or make any real difference?
Sucks it doesn't have vapor chamber, would be much better than the z13 if it doesn. They call this ROG but even the zenbook pro 14 oled with 4070 has more heatpipes in its cooling.
I have the XG Mobile RTX 4090 attached to my new X13 and it only runs at 120 watts. It's supposed to run at 150 watts and the 4090 clock speeds only run at 1500 Mhz when performing the 3DMark Port Royal benchmark. I'm not sure what the deal is 🤔
Have you been able to figure it out?
maybe they are saving vapor chamber for next year's model
You are a legend , doing all this without unplug the battery cable hahahahahah
haha.. I did unplug it when i upgraded the SSD to 2TB. That battery connector is fragile so everyone reading this, be careful with it.
Hi! Seems to be dangerous in case of damaging CPU and GPU crystals when impacting tho book bottom from outside. Are they steel safe?
You have a good eye. This is definitely a bigger concern now that the components have pressure directly accessible from the outside. I'm being conscious of this and being careful with mine, although I'm not overtly concerned since I don't put my devices through harsh travel conditions.
How's the pen performance? I want to combine my 2 devices into this Asus but would like to understand if the pen performance like jitter, pressure and initial activation force is at least on par even on a last gen surface pro x sq 2 using surface slim pen 2
I'll take a look at this soon. Stay tuned.
I found using the new Asus pen with the X13 to still be quite jittery unfortunately, better than my old sp4, but still noticable. The higher resolution of the display really helps however
Hi, i was wondering if the 4050 variant has the same temperatures or is cooler than 4060 and 4070 versions?
I don't have access to the 4050 variant, but my guess is it can hit the 60W power envelope easily, so in terms of heat its probably about the same as 4060 and 4070 versions (all of these versions of the GPU are powered down fairly drastically in order to fit within a certain wattage, so my guess is 4050 is hitting the same temps (same watts = same heat produced for all of these GPUs)
Great video
I just tried having this laptop.
The small size, build quality and overall design and quality is very good.
It has so many good things going for it.
But the high pitched loud fan noise.. I can't stand it.
I was hoping that having a powerful machine, and then limiting it greatly would reduce the need for much fan noise. But sadly it's doesn't help much, even under moderate load or gaming.
Yes I said gaming. Because the one I bought came with a RTX 4070. And that means "yes, this laptop is suitable for gaming!", but the cooling doesn't match up.
Well maybe not the cooling itself, because the temps seem ok. But the noise from the cooling.. which kicks in very early and very loud.
But it is possible to have it silent in idle mode (browsing, youtube etc.). Anything more than that, the fans kick in..
I really don't think that tweaks like this video would solve my main problem with compact powerful laptops in general.
My desktop makes fan noise too under heavy load, but it's a much more calm and low deep sound. Not annoying at all and not high pitched like on many laptops including this one
Another tuber said CPU boosts real high during gaming increasing Temps and noise, if you can tweak it, should help solve .
@@jondonnelly4831 Yeah I tried disabling turbo boost all together.
That should do the trick at least.
Still pretty loud fans under slight load.
Maybe my ears are sensitive ;) but I can't stand highpitched fan noise on a computer.
Sad because it's a great machine in all other areas
Hey cbutters I got the new Asus z13 4060 model and I’m noticing a lot of micro stutters while gaming (apex, cod, for honor), and also very weirdly when I try to play fifa 23 it will restart my pc saying it ran into an error. Never had these issues with other gaming laptops
Try this: th-cam.com/video/W66J0sXWKa4/w-d-xo.html
yeah the con of this pc an the 16x version both get too hot when you run ray tacing intensively running apps like say unreal 5.2 editor and its games these rogs are awesome with the air jet coming out thins summer in theory you could replace the fan system with the new jet fans they would blast out the heat faster seen someone mod a dual fan pc on display these pcs fans are default for most rigs in layout when the fans hit i heard their very pricey they hit this summer for retail buy. love to see and mod test with them. i got an amd5 /3060 variant its less power it can handle higher temps so hot wise the keyboard is almost too hot with the jet fans i bet that issue would go away considering 5 watts per get fan and you can put in three per fast spot and some ones are max 4 others less.. soo for the tdp of 30 watts you could in theory drop it more then using the cooper tape sink stuff. this is far as my jet fan knowledge goes..
How do you keep the temps at a certain degree, I’ll like to keep my cpu from going over 85
see my latest video: th-cam.com/video/6aVdwJKZSSc/w-d-xo.html
Anybody do this mod and measure the battery temps? If the bottom panel is getting hot, wouldn't that mean the battery is getting hot as well? This might be dangerous.
Im going to do the copper mod but not the filter mod. The difference in that isn't worth the dirtier fans and degradation over time.
Let me know how it goes for you! Excited to see others trying it.
Hi, did you also try to change thermal interface material as @MrFastFox666 suggested as a comment in your last X13 video(th-cam.com/video/X6kGsmpl8lk/w-d-xo.html) ?
Read his comments and it looks like he went from 38w to 50w at the same temperature with the X13 2022, maybe worth trying for you too to see if it makes a differance.
Thanks for the reviews and I think I will buy this laptop with a 4060.
Liquid metal
I'd rather get a Lenovo legion or asus f15 than that freaking hot thing
Dude... Turn off the Batterie!!!! I did forget it too and i crushed a Cap. With my luck i was able to change him. But. Do not Work on a Laptop with added Batterie!!! :-)
Why target is 87 degree it’s so low
That's just the way that this GPU implementation on the device was setup in the VBIOS... the CPU can go to 95-100C though
@@cbutters yeah dude I’m just complaining, that don’t make much sense, why not set to 95, 90 and the chip will be fine
@@jimjim3850 There are multiple temp readings that a nv gpu will output. One of them is the hotspot, which is the hottest part on the chip at any given moment. Often times, these run up 90-95deg+, even if the main gpu temp is reporting 77-80.
They probably dont have it go up to 90 because the hotspots would then increase to be 100+ or higher which will definitely kill the chip
@@emammah12 Fair! Good point👍👍👍
removing dust filter sounds like disaster for dust in the system, worst in the long run
It will be worse for dust doing this for sure. However, last gen's x13 didn't have the dust filter and was fine. but yes. plan on having to clean out your fans more often if you do this mod. And also... like I said in the video. I'm not saying everyone should do this... It's just what I did, and am sharing the results.
@@cbutters gotcha. its a good data point, didn't know dust filter can affect the temp this much. The copper is kinda a good idea, it is like a vapor chamber