For people continuously saying "build a gaming pc," yall should know that this video is for people who already have a MacBook, and don't have the money to buy another entire machine solely for the purpose of "gaming," which is already a waste of time. People with macs create, develop, and design. Its the reason why most developers have macs, along with all designers, filmmakers, and other professionals. The software that is exclusively available on mac is meant to appeal to such people, not gamers. Don't y'all realize that the ads that Microsoft make to promote their products never involve gaming performace, but durability, design, and convenience for professionals and creators, not gamers. They're trying to appeal to the community of creators and developers, mainly because most of us have macs. Windows lacks tons of software that mac has exclusively dedicated to devs and creators. Gaming - WIndows all the way. Design, Develop, Create, Convenience, Exclusive Software (App Store, etc.), Security, ETC... - MAC
more like people who had to deal with unix couldn't be bothered buying a windows machine, uninstall windows then install linux and have to worry about hardware compatibility issues also system tuning...instead just buy a mac, its hardware in general is underperformed for the money you spend comparing to a windows machine, but it's fine-tuned and robust....I was impressed the first time I got my hands on a macbook pro then I never went back to the nightmare of trying to install ubuntu on a gaming laptop which has hardware compatibility issue.
PC can also be well-tuned and robust only if the users know what they're doing...there are plenty computer scientists/engineers living on PC platform, also most of scientific instruments only talk to windows for reasons
I can't wait till this becomes more mainstream and I'd be able to use an external GPU on my MacBook pro as well as my desktop. Just unplug and replug depending on which computer needs the egpu at the moment.
why would this become mainstream macs just fucking suck. I used over 10 Linux distros in my life. Some even that weren't stable and all had more functionality than a stupid macbook pro. How is it even called a pro when it runs on internal graphics. Linux is freedom. Windows is the best OS for convenience and compatibility. A mac is just good at nothing. All I can hear is people saying blabla final cut blazing fast blabla. That's software not an operating system. People buy a macbook just for one program that's absurd. It reminds me of those people buying medication for 30 USD when they can get the generic one for a dollar. That's the mindset of Apple users. Brand is everything.
Felix Lopez your not geting the point if you buy a 800 dollar gpu you will only get 30% of its performance not what you call amazing its between 1060 and 1070 not worth the price for what ypu get
Robin Clarijs For what exactly do you need "freedom" when all you do is surf the internet, use iWork, write and read Mails and use some power Programms like Final Cut or Logic? Why do I need an OS that sucks and almost no Apps are optimized for? Why? Too make everything as complicated as possible and to have "freedom" that essential does nothing. Great.
Buying a 1080 ti for a egpu setup is stupid since you are not able to transfer it's full potential with the thunderbold 3 port anyway. You better run with a 1060 or 1070. You'll get almost the same performance for a fraction of the price...
How is it that thunderbolt 3 cant take full advantage of a 1080? From what I read its the fastest connection on the market, at least for external devices.
Considering the 1080 was designed for internal use, would make sense why using a device meant for external use wouldn't tap the full power of an internal card...
DISAGREE，the performance loss can be cut down to 5% running at 4k resolution on a external display, given that not as much data are being transferred when the frame rate is around 60 FPS. Moreover, performance loss is more like locked to a certain percentage using egpu. It is not like your 1080 would be like 1060 and your 1060 remains to be 1060, but rather both of them suffering a 20% loss. So you actually want to have a card that's as powerful as possible
I see. thank you for the insight. I agree with and see the logic now that due to the bottleneck only so much processing power can be utilized by any given graphics card.
So sad to see all the hate toward macbooks... yes, they're not meant for gaming, but this guy is being an mvp and showing us what works and what doesn't for those of us who actually do have a macbook AND want to play games (eg. people with different priorities in life than you) if you hate macbooks, thats fine with me, but please dont fill the comment section with your unnecessary comments, take them to some "we who hate macs" forum or something...
Yeah man please do it. We really wanna know how does the GPU work with FCPX & Premiere Pro in Mac OS. And Premiere pro in windows. How does it compare to built-in Intel Iris graphics? Also, please let us know which one FCPX prefers for rendering & playback, AMD or Nvidia? And how do these both companies perform with Premiere Pro in windows & Mac OS! I know it's a very difficult and long test to do. But it will be best all in one eGPU test for video editors.
I've tested eGPU using Quadro in earlier 2015, before all those fancy enclosure exists, I did test for 3D, Color Grading, Video Editing and Compositing, It performed significantly well on PC eGPU with mPCIe Gen2 or ExpressCard. On Mac i use NGFF, it gain performance, but not much. It might depends on your workflows and CPU as well. Macs with ATI or Intel Iris are only optimized for OpenCL, and Metal, even if you select 'Enable untrusted CUDA device' Not sure if the script will help boost eGPU CUDA performance If you would like to know deep down about the real eGPU, go to techinferno forum. They are the pioneers and experts for eGPU since 2010 both for Mac and PC. Search Nando, the God of eGPU
I'm excited to get my eGPU enclosure. I already have a gaming PC with an i7-6700K and a GTX 1080 but planning on getting a 1080 Ti for my PC, and putting my old 1080 on my eGPU setup for my 15" MBP with Touch Bar. I've always wanted to consolidate my PCs into one, and having my Mac as my daily driver, and having my enclosure with an SSD, GTX 1080, and charging capabilities is just insane.
was thinking were do I heard this voice before... Oh, it's Jeff, whose tutorials helped me so much when I started to learn web-development. Glad to see that you are also interested in eGPUs.
This is so beautiful. A lot of people argue about the price of this setup but I think it's worth it. You can potentially have the most powerful desktop graphics card for your laptop with only a minimal performance loss.
I disagree. Remember he is using beta drivers. This setup works for creators, video editors, 3D modeling and more. An editor can use this egpu setup instead of breaking down and setting up a full desktop computer when you move to new locations or clients. A student can use the MacBook for school and leave the AKiTiO Node at home for gaming. This is beautiful. I don't see MacBooks getting any thicker anytime soon so we may never see desktop graphics in a light and portable laptop. this is long overdue and I have to commend Akitio for including a power supply and making this compatible with pc and Mac.
No offense dude, but you're just bottlenecking the 1080Ti by using a 13-inch Macbook Pro, with a reasonable clocked dual core that is surely thermal throttling under the load.
You do bring up a valid point. Quadro does have much better OpenGL firmware optimization than Geforce, as most professional apps still have yet to switch over to DX, and Mac But that does not make the other points invalid. These issues of the CPU almost certainly bottlenecking the graphics card, the TB3 interface further bottlenecking the card at PCI-e bandwidth of only 8 lanes, not 16 as you would find on at least the first slot of a Z270, X99, X299, X399, B350 (etc.) motherboard, and finally, the fact that the current Mac drivers for Nvidia 10-series suck, are still very much present. While your point is correct, mine and Remo's points are too. Also, seeing as all points mentioned, including yours, are completely correct, I am not just a retarded Windows gamer who doesn't have any idea what he is talking about. I wish thee a farewell and a good day.
This looks dope. I didn't even know this was possible. I have a new MacBook pro running a VMware for school. One day I'll graduate and consider doing something like this to get back into gaming.
Never had such setup, questions! 1. Does using internal display share the TB3 bandwidth? 2. Does the CPU ever throttle during the synthetic benchmarks?
Solidworks is probably the only application to see any benefit from it. With Max, Maya, Iray, Octane and plenty of other professional applications you are just better off with a Geforce card. Those professional cards have very specific use cases even in the professional world.
Awesome video....how bad would this set up be on thunderbolt 2...so the pervious model MacBook Pro.....thanx very much I hope this set up would work...(on last gen mbp)
As a graphics professional, I would love to hear how this performs with Illustrator and Photoshop. More graphic real world solutions. I need more power. I've always been with Mac but starting to think about switching to windows :(((. I just hope Apple takes this on board and allows people who need more power to optimise the OS with a break out box solution. This would be amazing and would be enough for me to stick with Apple.
Does this work with macOS Mojave 10.14.3 ? A quick question also, you didn't disable SIP or anything else, just ran one script? How does that work? Other tutorials tell you to disable SIP etc.
Yes, I would consider an eGPU for my TB2 2015 15" MBP, but only if the price was reasonable and I could get noticeably performance gains not only in FCPX but also in Compressor and in other pro apps. I don't really have any need for boosting game performance. Furthermore, having an eGPU work on the MBP's internal display in MacOS (not boot camp) is preferred. I look forward to see the other video you promised pertaining to the cheaper card.
Exactly. I have a 1080ti in my gaming rig. I’m debating buying a graphics card enclosure so I can pop it into my iMac for a little boost if needed. How much on average are these enclosures??
+HowardFreeman Motivation Razor is more expensive, has more ports, and features old Ti chipset that requires a script to unlock on Mac. I'll have to get one soon to test it out.
Great video! thanks alot. Quick question, does the gtx 1080 ti will still suck for video editing on lets say Adobe Premiere? Running a 27inch imac late 2012 here.
I play a lot of games on my Mac Pro 2010 + GTX 980 + nvidia webdrivers on MacOS. I find that for a lot of games the performance isn't that much worse than Windows, but for some others it is indeed only at 50-60%. XCOM 2, World of Warships, Civilization V and VI, HoI4, EU4, Borderlands 2, Tombraider, ARK, Fortnite, City Skylines, Surviving Mars, ...
Selecting the Default OS Driver won't switch to your build-in graphics Intel Graphics but instead use the Nvidia Drivers that come with Sierra rather than using the latest Nvidia Web Driver you downloaded. In both cases you are using the eGPU
Thanks for your video. I've had the same issues before... It typically has to do with the 13" MacBook pro also only offering a dual core processor. Its not able to feed enough to the GPU... I'm going to be going for the 15" quad core model in the future!
I'm so looking forward to a future where I just have an eGPU instead of my Desktop PC and my MacBook will handle everything, including gaming. We're close but we still need more bandwith on Thunderbolt, QuadCore CPUs on the 13" MacBook Pros and more affordable eGPU cases. Till then it's much more straight forward to build your own PC, get more bang for your buck and have it ready at all times.
Hold on, I don't know if you mentioned it, but I'd say realistically this GPU would be alot better paired with a 15" MBP, as 4 cores would way improve any bottlenecks you see on a 2c/4t CPU like the 13" models. I feel like a 1050ti/470 would be a much better pair with a 13" model.
I work on deep learning / neural networks and need a powerful GPU to run Google's Tensorflow, which uses nVidia's CUDA. Can you please try to run some CUDA computational benchmarks, and if possible Tensorflow itself? I'm not looking for video graphics performance but rather GPU CUDA computational performance.
I have a similar setup with a 2017 13 inch MacBook Pro and I was trying to run bootcamp windows with an akitio node but here’s the problem. My internal display just becomes a black screen with a windows symbol in the middle, sometimes flickering. I was just wondering how to have the internal display work with my external display and have my gtx 1050ti work with both my external and internal display.
Thank you! I am trying to get Akitio Node + AMD RX480 8GB GPU for my 15' MBP 2016 to enhance video editing performance (FCPX + Davinci Resolve). Do you think it's worth getting it? Wondering how much the 8GB will improve the rendering performance and etc. My MBP currently has AMD RX460 4GB...
The difference may be in the drivers, but that's not the whole story by any means. The bulk of the difference is how each OS handles graphics. For games in Windows, DirectX (pretty sure the current version is DirectX 12) is used. MacOS uses Metal, an API developed by Apple and optimized for the AMD GPUs that Apple builds into its higher-end machines. Nvidia GPUs use a processor technology called CUDA that simply processes things differently than AMD's "stream processor" technology. Metal and Apple's optimization are why you'll get kickass performance with an AMD GPU when running Final Cut Pro. DirectX is why you'll get kickass performance in games in Windows. You won't get good performance in games in MacOS because games in MacOS use OpenGL and OpenCL, which simply aren't as well optimized as DirectX. I'd like to see how the 1080ti performs doing 3D rendering in programs like Blender in MacOS. Nvidia's CUDA is known to be great for rendering stuff (which is why it's also great for people who use Adobe's Premier Pro.) There's just too much to summarize in a 6:22 video, frankly. And I think the result is people down here in the comment section complaining about how they feel their OS of choice is superior, and other people saying the CPU is bottlenecking it (which is somewhat true,) and other people just being rude.
I look forward to your next video of you explaining why the $200 graphics card is better than the $700 graphics card for macOS. Is it out yet? It's been a few months
The reason you are getting such choppy playback is because you are using a 13 inch model. Essentially you're getting a dual core CPU. The games you tested need atleast a quad core CPU so a 15 inch model would perform better.
+Ahmad Muhammad \\ Horses, Games, and more Yes, but it's primarily the beta drivers... if that were true I'd get choppy performance on windows as well. I know that quad core increases performance, but that's not the reason for the discrepancy in this case
Will this only work for Thunderbolt 3? Even on windows? I have a thunderbolt 2 Macbook ProR, wondering whether the data transfer speeds are too slow for it.. Thanks
I noticed that the guy in the video did not have a second USB-C dongle plugged in, while earlier videos said this was required for the Node to work on a MBP. What's the word on this?
Do you need to do anything additional for windows running on macOS using boot camp? And if I remove and reattach the cable to MacBook Pro, will I have to do the entire setup again?
For people continuously saying "build a gaming pc," yall should know that this video is for people who already have a MacBook, and don't have the money to buy another entire machine solely for the purpose of "gaming," which is already a waste of time. People with macs create, develop, and design. Its the reason why most developers have macs, along with all designers, filmmakers, and other professionals. The software that is exclusively available on mac is meant to appeal to such people, not gamers. Don't y'all realize that the ads that Microsoft make to promote their products never involve gaming performace, but durability, design, and convenience for professionals and creators, not gamers. They're trying to appeal to the community of creators and developers, mainly because most of us have macs. Windows lacks tons of software that mac has exclusively dedicated to devs and creators.
Gaming - WIndows all the way.
Design, Develop, Create, Convenience, Exclusive Software (App Store, etc.), Security, ETC... - MAC
Wow. This comment is gold!
This comment makes me happy
more like people who had to deal with unix couldn't be bothered buying a windows machine, uninstall windows then install linux and have to worry about hardware compatibility issues also system tuning...instead just buy a mac, its hardware in general is underperformed for the money you spend comparing to a windows machine, but it's fine-tuned and robust....I was impressed the first time I got my hands on a macbook pro then I never went back to the nightmare of trying to install ubuntu on a gaming laptop which has hardware compatibility issue.
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A Mac is like an expensive well tuned sports car whereas a PC is like a dodge demon that is only good for one thing. Straight lines
PC can also be well-tuned and robust only if the users know what they're doing...there are plenty computer scientists/engineers living on PC platform, also most of scientific instruments only talk to windows for reasons
I can't wait till this becomes more mainstream and I'd be able to use an external GPU on my MacBook pro as well as my desktop. Just unplug and replug depending on which computer needs the egpu at the moment.
Keep dreaming 😂
why would this become mainstream macs just fucking suck. I used over 10 Linux distros in my life. Some even that weren't stable and all had more functionality than a stupid macbook pro. How is it even called a pro when it runs on internal graphics. Linux is freedom. Windows is the best OS for convenience and compatibility. A mac is just good at nothing. All I can hear is people saying blabla final cut blazing fast blabla. That's software not an operating system. People buy a macbook just for one program that's absurd. It reminds me of those people buying medication for 30 USD when they can get the generic one for a dollar. That's the mindset of Apple users. Brand is everything.
Felix Lopez your not geting the point if you buy a 800 dollar gpu you will only get 30% of its performance not what you call amazing its between 1060 and 1070 not worth the price for what ypu get
Robin pas je op dat je niet te hard je fedora tipt?
Robin Clarijs For what exactly do you need "freedom" when all you do is surf the internet, use iWork, write and read Mails and use some power Programms like Final Cut or Logic? Why do I need an OS that sucks and almost no Apps are optimized for? Why?
Too make everything as complicated as possible and to have "freedom" that essential does nothing. Great.
Nice, a half year ago i dreamed how nice it would be to do this with USB - and now it is reality!
Buying a 1080 ti for a egpu setup is stupid since you are not able to transfer it's full potential with the thunderbold 3 port anyway. You better run with a 1060 or 1070. You'll get almost the same performance for a fraction of the price...
How is it that thunderbolt 3 cant take full advantage of a 1080? From what I read its the fastest connection on the market, at least for external devices.
Fastest is not fast enough for the calculationpower of this card
incorrect.
Considering the 1080 was designed for internal use, would make sense why using a device meant for external use wouldn't tap the full power of an internal card...
DISAGREE，the performance loss can be cut down to 5% running at 4k resolution on a external display, given that not as much data are being transferred when the frame rate is around 60 FPS. Moreover, performance loss is more like locked to a certain percentage using egpu. It is not like your 1080 would be like 1060 and your 1060 remains to be 1060, but rather both of them suffering a 20% loss. So you actually want to have a card that's as powerful as possible
I look forward to your next video of you explaining why the $200 graphics card is better than the $700 graphics card for macOS
LOL same!
I see. thank you for the insight. I agree with and see the logic now that due to the bottleneck only so much processing power can be utilized by any given graphics card.
Is that video out yet? I'd like to know what specific model that $200 graphics card is.
because when you think about apple products, think amd, not nvidia. i don't recall any apple product ever uses nvidia gpu. problem solved.
did it ever come out ?
So sad to see all the hate toward macbooks... yes, they're not meant for gaming, but this guy is being an mvp and showing us what works and what doesn't for those of us who actually do have a macbook AND want to play games (eg. people with different priorities in life than you) if you hate macbooks, thats fine with me, but please dont fill the comment section with your unnecessary comments, take them to some "we who hate macs" forum or something...
Please show us how to make the egpu accelerate the internal display of a 15“ macbook pro in bootcamp using a nvidia card. PLEASE!
Can do you please make a video about viedeoediting with egpus in mac + win and FCPX + Premiere
Good video :)
I second this. Actually I third this also.
This is a test with FCPX, Resolve, Premiere on mac:
egpu.io/forums/pro-applications/egpu-for-video-processing-on-a-laptop-does-it-make-sense/
Yeah man please do it.
We really wanna know how does the GPU work with FCPX & Premiere Pro in Mac OS. And Premiere pro in windows. How does it compare to built-in Intel Iris graphics?
Also, please let us know which one FCPX prefers for rendering & playback, AMD or Nvidia? And how do these both companies perform with Premiere Pro in windows & Mac OS!
I know it's a very difficult and long test to do. But it will be best all in one eGPU test for video editors.
I've tested eGPU using Quadro in earlier 2015, before all those fancy enclosure exists, I did test for 3D, Color Grading, Video Editing and Compositing, It performed significantly well on PC eGPU with mPCIe Gen2 or ExpressCard.
On Mac i use NGFF, it gain performance, but not much. It might depends on your workflows and CPU as well.
Macs with ATI or Intel Iris are only optimized for OpenCL, and Metal, even if you select 'Enable untrusted CUDA device'
Not sure if the script will help boost eGPU CUDA performance
If you would like to know deep down about the real eGPU, go to techinferno forum.
They are the pioneers and experts for eGPU since 2010 both for Mac and PC.
Search Nando, the God of eGPU
Thanks very much
I'm excited to get my eGPU enclosure. I already have a gaming PC with an i7-6700K and a GTX 1080 but planning on getting a 1080 Ti for my PC, and putting my old 1080 on my eGPU setup for my 15" MBP with Touch Bar. I've always wanted to consolidate my PCs into one, and having my Mac as my daily driver, and having my enclosure with an SSD, GTX 1080, and charging capabilities is just insane.
was thinking were do I heard this voice before...
Oh, it's Jeff, whose tutorials helped me so much when I started to learn web-development.
Glad to see that you are also interested in eGPUs.
This is so beautiful. A lot of people argue about the price of this setup but I think it's worth it. You can potentially have the most powerful desktop graphics card for your laptop with only a minimal performance loss.
touchtapgo It's at Least a third to half the performance going to waste right here. You literally waste 400$... But lower end cards can make sense
I disagree. Remember he is using beta drivers. This setup works for creators, video editors, 3D modeling and more. An editor can use this egpu setup instead of breaking down and setting up a full desktop computer when you move to new locations or clients. A student can use the MacBook for school and leave the AKiTiO Node at home for gaming. This is beautiful. I don't see MacBooks getting any thicker anytime soon so we may never see desktop graphics in a light and portable laptop. this is long overdue and I have to commend Akitio for including a power supply and making this compatible with pc and Mac.
No offense dude, but you're just bottlenecking the 1080Ti by using a 13-inch Macbook Pro, with a reasonable clocked dual core that is surely thermal throttling under the load.
Elijah Nation not to mention that thunderbolt 3 still bottlenecks the card as well
Oh yeah, that too
You do bring up a valid point. Quadro does have much better OpenGL firmware optimization than Geforce, as most professional apps still have yet to switch over to DX, and Mac But that does not make the other points invalid. These issues of the CPU almost certainly bottlenecking the graphics card, the TB3 interface further bottlenecking the card at PCI-e bandwidth of only 8 lanes, not 16 as you would find on at least the first slot of a Z270, X99, X299, X399, B350 (etc.) motherboard, and finally, the fact that the current Mac drivers for Nvidia 10-series suck, are still very much present. While your point is correct, mine and Remo's points are too. Also, seeing as all points mentioned, including yours, are completely correct, I am not just a retarded Windows gamer who doesn't have any idea what he is talking about. I wish thee a farewell and a good day.
This is like hooking up a beastly muscle car to an electric bicycle.. And flooring the muscle car..
Not if you have a new macbook pro 15 inch with the top end quad core i7
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How about a 2019 version of this video? hopefully theres something new for a more recent MacBook and 'beta' part of this equation has been perfected?
hey you should do an updated video since NVidia updated it's drivers for Mac a few months after this was uploaded.
This looks dope. I didn't even know this was possible. I have a new MacBook pro running a VMware for school. One day I'll graduate and consider doing something like this to get back into gaming.
Never had such setup, questions!
1. Does using internal display share the TB3 bandwidth?
2. Does the CPU ever throttle during the synthetic benchmarks?
Please answer this question: What kind of a setup will improve FCPX 10.4 performance?????
This might sound stupid. But can i do this egpu setup to an iMac?
So Final Cut Pro X doesn't work well with eGPU? Need to know before I buy it
Love to get an update on this when the drivers are updated.
your narrative style is fantastic!
Jeff you're doing an outstanding job leading this channel, thumbs up!
how the MacBook performs if you connect it to a firepro or Quadro card? these are professional cards . plz make a video about it if you can
Solidworks is probably the only application to see any benefit from it.
With Max, Maya, Iray, Octane and plenty of other professional applications you are just better off with a Geforce card.
Those professional cards have very specific use cases even in the professional world.
autocad,revit,archicad etc there are tons of programs including premiere pro. it would be nice to see the results in a video tho.
Awesome video Jeff. Well done! Keep these coming. I think this is the perfect use of the super high speed thunderbolt 3 ports.
Please make tutorial to setup an egpu in bootcamp using the internal display.
Awesome video....how bad would this set up be on thunderbolt 2...so the pervious model MacBook Pro.....thanx very much I hope this set up would work...(on last gen mbp)
I would love to see some love given to Engineers and Architects with a video benchmarking a Quadro card in an eGPU, especially for the 2013 Mac Pro.
As a graphics professional, I would love to hear how this performs with Illustrator and Photoshop. More graphic real world solutions.
I need more power. I've always been with Mac but starting to think about switching to windows :(((.
I just hope Apple takes this on board and allows people who need more power to optimise the OS with a break out box solution. This would be amazing and would be enough for me to stick with Apple.
@cycleranger hey i'm a designer as well. did you find any solution to that as well?
Does this work with macOS Mojave 10.14.3 ? A quick question also, you didn't disable SIP or anything else, just ran one script? How does that work? Other tutorials tell you to disable SIP etc.
Great tutorial!
One question: Will it work as well with a VM from parallels instead of bootcamp?
I imagine this is a corner case.. but this might help accelerate my deep learning routines in Tensorflow + cuda
Having G sync ready screens will also help.
Jeff when you switched to windows, did you have have to install drivers for that as well or does the Mac nvidia stuff just work?
You have to install the drivers. The OS' are quarantined from each other.
Yes, I would consider an eGPU for my TB2 2015 15" MBP, but only if the price was reasonable and I could get noticeably performance gains not only in FCPX but also in Compressor and in other pro apps. I don't really have any need for boosting game performance. Furthermore, having an eGPU work on the MBP's internal display in MacOS (not boot camp) is preferred. I look forward to see the other video you promised pertaining to the cheaper card.
That's pretty dope (i'm a windows a user), I like mac users are now getting similar things us in the in the windows community always had now.
the issue is not only the driver / OS, also there is some loss when you run a Thunderbolt GPU compared to a regular gpu.
Cool video Jeff. I can wait to see a hackintosh video later.
Exactly. I have a 1080ti in my gaming rig. I’m debating buying a graphics card enclosure so I can pop it into my iMac for a little boost if needed. How much on average are these enclosures??
How much for your voice? It's awesome
hi, great video! Just to ask what is the different between this akitio and razer core? Ports different? Can i connect to external display via akitio?
+HowardFreeman Motivation Razor is more expensive, has more ports, and features old Ti chipset that requires a script to unlock on Mac. I'll have to get one soon to test it out.
Is it weird that I love how it's a command line process??
Nathan Taylor Is it weird that I don't trust a random script that is executed with root?
From what I understand, this really only makes sense if you have a newer Mac with Thunderbolt 3, else the benefits on TB2 aren't quite there.
Stephen Hagans This right here doesn't make sense. At least not with a FUCKING 1080 TI
If Apple created a new external display with a eGPU, that would be so great (and probably quite expensive). One can only hope.
Great video! thanks alot. Quick question, does the gtx 1080 ti will still suck for video editing on lets say Adobe Premiere? Running a 27inch imac late 2012 here.
I play a lot of games on my Mac Pro 2010 + GTX 980 + nvidia webdrivers on MacOS. I find that for a lot of games the performance isn't that much worse than Windows, but for some others it is indeed only at 50-60%.
XCOM 2, World of Warships, Civilization V and VI, HoI4, EU4, Borderlands 2, Tombraider, ARK, Fortnite, City Skylines, Surviving Mars, ...
Another good qustion is how are your results being affect by your CPU.
i can use in OS right
Selecting the Default OS Driver won't switch to your build-in graphics Intel Graphics but instead use the Nvidia Drivers that come with Sierra rather than using the latest Nvidia Web Driver you downloaded. In both cases you are using the eGPU
Thank you jeff, i have a question, do you still need to disable the system integrity protection or it is no longer necessary? 🤔
Thanks a lot! 😎
Yes, you do.
Nice Video, but How about Adobe Premiere, After Effects and Cinema 4d performance with this setup ?
Thanks for your video. I've had the same issues before... It typically has to do with the 13" MacBook pro also only offering a dual core processor. Its not able to feed enough to the GPU... I'm going to be going for the 15" quad core model in the future!
I'm so looking forward to a future where I just have an eGPU instead of my Desktop PC and my MacBook will handle everything, including gaming.
We're close but we still need more bandwith on Thunderbolt, QuadCore CPUs on the 13" MacBook Pros and more affordable eGPU cases.
Till then it's much more straight forward to build your own PC, get more bang for your buck and have it ready at all times.
Can you please make a video about how you were able to get the egpu working in bootcamp windows 10?
try passining through the thunderbolt port in parallels!
Will it be a bigger difference if you are using a 1060/70/80 and what is the bottleneck of using a egpu?
Got the Akitio Node but that script is not detecting the GPU.
Same problem with a 1080ti, It shows I have the Nvidia web driver but still showing old internal graphics card
Shouldn't this be tested on a 15" MBP since it doesn't share bandwidth with other internal components?
Hold on, I don't know if you mentioned it, but I'd say realistically this GPU would be alot better paired with a 15" MBP, as 4 cores would way improve any bottlenecks you see on a 2c/4t CPU like the 13" models. I feel like a 1050ti/470 would be a much better pair with a 13" model.
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How much difference would it make if you used a Macbook pro with an i7 processor ??
Does the Akitio Node charge your macbook, or do you need to plug in a separate charger?
Does this still works for Macbook 16" with the Razer Core?
how about with thunderbolt 1 and 2 Macbook Pro's and the 20GBS thunderbolt 3 Dell XPS series.
thanks great insight.
can I use eGPU for MacBook Pro early 2011?
if I can use it which graphic card can I use it ?
Working inside my Mac Pro, without external box 💪🏻
I work on deep learning / neural networks and need a powerful GPU to run Google's Tensorflow, which uses nVidia's CUDA. Can you please try to run some CUDA computational benchmarks, and if possible Tensorflow itself? I'm not looking for video graphics performance but rather GPU CUDA computational performance.
Same for me 😁
Did you try the CUDA with this setup ? Does it work ?
Amazing video.THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING HOW TO INSTALL THE DRIVERS!!!!
Good presentation! (with the card).
Hey man thank your for a video, but my macbook prom 2012 mid! Can I used this car?
Do you still have to take these steps for current Mac OS software?
Which MacBook pro are you using?
If possible could you do a comparison between the 13-inch non-touch bar version?
jake jackobson its same... the non touch bar has slightly less CPU performance nothing else though...
Does the Akitio Node charges the MacBook Pro that's plugged in?
I have a similar setup with a 2017 13 inch MacBook Pro and I was trying to run bootcamp windows with an akitio node but here’s the problem. My internal display just becomes a black screen with a windows symbol in the middle, sometimes flickering. I was just wondering how to have the internal display work with my external display and have my gtx 1050ti work with both my external and internal display.
Was any additional setup needed to use it on bootcamp? Would any additional setup be necessary for a non-touch bar model(2017)?
can you do a review on this Akitio Node box? Wondering how loud the fan noise is and etc...
+JOHNNYBØY films yes
Thank you! I am trying to get Akitio Node + AMD RX480 8GB GPU for my 15' MBP 2016 to enhance video editing performance (FCPX + Davinci Resolve). Do you think it's worth getting it? Wondering how much the 8GB will improve the rendering performance and etc. My MBP currently has AMD RX460 4GB...
Driver install in the console and a reboot? Reminds me of something... right - Redmond...
The difference may be in the drivers, but that's not the whole story by any means. The bulk of the difference is how each OS handles graphics. For games in Windows, DirectX (pretty sure the current version is DirectX 12) is used. MacOS uses Metal, an API developed by Apple and optimized for the AMD GPUs that Apple builds into its higher-end machines. Nvidia GPUs use a processor technology called CUDA that simply processes things differently than AMD's "stream processor" technology. Metal and Apple's optimization are why you'll get kickass performance with an AMD GPU when running Final Cut Pro. DirectX is why you'll get kickass performance in games in Windows. You won't get good performance in games in MacOS because games in MacOS use OpenGL and OpenCL, which simply aren't as well optimized as DirectX. I'd like to see how the 1080ti performs doing 3D rendering in programs like Blender in MacOS. Nvidia's CUDA is known to be great for rendering stuff (which is why it's also great for people who use Adobe's Premier Pro.) There's just too much to summarize in a 6:22 video, frankly. And I think the result is people down here in the comment section complaining about how they feel their OS of choice is superior, and other people saying the CPU is bottlenecking it (which is somewhat true,) and other people just being rude.
Hey very nice and informative video, but is there any possibility for more game test using windows bootcamp. Maybe
Battlefield 1 or the Witcher 3 ?
Nice Video, one question.
Does this run with my MacBook Pro (2013), I mean it has only Thunderbolt 2.
how does this compare to the same setup with a 980ti?
I look forward to your next video of you explaining why the $200 graphics card is better than the $700 graphics card for macOS. Is it out yet? It's been a few months
The reason you are getting such choppy playback is because you are using a 13 inch model. Essentially you're getting a dual core CPU. The games you tested need atleast a quad core CPU so a 15 inch model would perform better.
+Ahmad Muhammad \\ Horses, Games, and more Yes, but it's primarily the beta drivers... if that were true I'd get choppy performance on windows as well. I know that quad core increases performance, but that's not the reason for the discrepancy in this case
How about the new gots Titan Xp? That graphic card is made for the Macs.
Does this work as simple as this with the 15" 2016 MacBook Pro with its iGPU and the Radeon GPU in it already?
Really hoping that this solution works with my 15" MBP.
Can you please make a Octane Render Benchmark on macOS? with this setup?
Fun, benchmark. There fits a x 16 pci-e video card, but he works on Pci-e x 4 (3.9 GB/s Bandwidth) that is reflected in the speed of the benchmark
Can i use it on my 15" Mac Book Pro mid 2012 with a thunderbolt 2 adapter?
Will this only work for Thunderbolt 3? Even on windows? I have a thunderbolt 2 Macbook ProR, wondering whether the data transfer speeds are too slow for it.. Thanks
Pretty sure Thunderbolt 3 is going to bottleneck that GPU, you'd get the same performance with a much cheaper card.
I noticed that the guy in the video did not have a second USB-C dongle plugged in, while earlier videos said this was required for the Node to work on a MBP. What's the word on this?
Once again another exceptional video. Thumbs up.
2017 Macbook pro comes with Radeon chip. I wonder it won't crash when external nvidia GPU is hooked up.
Do you need to do anything additional for windows running on macOS using boot camp? And if I remove and reattach the cable to MacBook Pro, will I have to do the entire setup again?
How was the temperature of the 13" pro under stress? Both win e macOS?
Could you do an updates video with the same?
Thanks for the great video! Can you do a video with an AMD card for FCPX video editing?
uhhh, you forgot to turn off vsync or the fps cap in a lot of the games you tested
+Michael Rahmani the point wasn't to have a max frame rate in those games. I wanted to get a smooth consistent Fr at 4K.
what is the car game that you tested when you booted from windows??