40 years of riding, several brands from around the globe and various models then purchased my incredible 2017 R Nine T Scrambler - Satisfaction! This immensely capable machine takes me all distances and terrains without being stressed. Cannot fault these amazing rides.
These little bikes are where it’s at! The Rninet isn’t a retro anything, more of a bike BMW made up to commemorate 90years of BMW. This doesn’t take away from the fact it’s an amazing little bike. I’ve always liked the Pure the best. 🤘
MOTOBOB !! You condensed all the essentials of 4 models into a concise informative video with visual displays for reference! If I was undecided on one of these, I’m sure this video would’ve helped immensely! Cheers from Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺😎👍
I test drove a Scrambler today and i loved it, but I think the best value for me is to get the Pure and throw on the $1000 upgrade package. It still saves me $3K off of the scrambler and keeps it lower than the T120 Gold LIne that i also drove.
What I just don't like, at least in Mexico, is how they keep getting more and more expensive without changing one thing. A dash without fuel level nor gear indicator is unacceptable at 13000 USD.
Talk to your elected officials? Since we are talking USD, inflation has been substantial the last few years. Keeping the price the same would be the same as dropping the price. The price must be raised just to keep parity
Oh I love an R9T. Great summary, but still can’t decide which one I like best. I think the sadly departed Racer had it on points because of its looks but now, it’s like choosing your favourite child.
Just for price comparison. In Norway, the NineT Pure is £16,000 while the The Scrambler and Urban GS is £16,500. A fully spec'd up NineT Pure is £21,000. That's a Lot of money for a retro bike. That's Superbike territory. The Nine T Roadster is £19,600... Personally, i'd go with the Pure. Clean looks and stylish, combined with that i hit the twisties hard and never go off-road or on tour.
Great Video. I was thinking about RniteT and then I went to a dealer to try one (urban GS) ...it turned out that the sitting position is too sporty for my taste and the couch is very small (not able to reasonably accommodate a pillion when touring). It looks great and I'm sure that it is perfect for a short solo ride and an instagram photo.. but it is not what I've hoped for -> a do it all contemporary version of R80GS.
@hetane That’s a totally fair, and in my experience, accurate, take. I had a 2014, which I ordered the first month they were available. It was a beautiful bike for solo riding, and I wish I hadn’t sold it five years later. But now that I’m a little older, I’d love a more comfortable seating position (even with risers installed I was still doing a lot of leaning forward) and an easier way to mount a bag. I’d love an updated R80GS, but as a shorter dude, I fear the R NineT is BMW’s only practical seat height.
Rode an Bumblebee Urban GS yesterday. While the built quality is top notch, and the engine is an absolute peach, i couldnt really warm up to it. It feels a lot heavier than it actually is, probably due to the engine. I really disliked riding it in city traffic. I would rather buy a Triump Speed Twin or a Guzzi V7.
Speed Twin the perfect bike, except if you are tall... the bike feels small for taller drivers.
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The racer...second hand.... or the "simple" black one for me... Can you wrap me one and send it my way? none of the option719 blingbling things. they are all... a little off for me.
They are lovely bikes and I almost bought one, but in the end I went for the 2021 GS1250. I love that retro look and the quirkiness but the GS does all the same and more.
I sold my R1250GS to get an rninet, the gs is a good bike don't get me wrong but it lacks character for me. I have way more fun on the rninet. You feel disconnected from the road on the gs.
Bmw has a very different design lNguage in the bike world and there are very few that stand out like the ducati. Totally in love with the bmw range of bikes
Urban GS colours are close to my R100GS. Shaft drive arm looks to have been beefed up quite a bit. Performance is more than adequate in the real world. My R80GS was the better all round bike especially with that 32 litre tank that would get me from Melbourne to Canberra most of the way on 1 tank.
Nice vid, for me the Pure looksj so clean and tidy. The others are trying too hard. I wonder how hot they run as I live somewhere warm and cook on my little Ducati Scrambler
I can tell you. From riders perspective, not hot at all. The heat from the engine magically goes everywhere BUT you, which took me by surprise. Now the BIKE on the other hand is tuned so lean that heat can actually shut the bike off if it determines its too hot. I had a moment it was 98degrees and after 30min of spirited riding it shut off at a stop light to keep itself cool. I asked a BMW tech about it and it is a confirmed feature of the bike.
I want one so bad but you're paying such a premium for a few paint schemes and a bmw badge so I rather spend my money on a triumph or maybe a dual-sport Japanese bike.
Real life review on the s1000r pls!!! I’ve ordered the race version but won’t arrive down to us here in OZ till end of July. Dying for review in English :) thanks for all the great work!
Thanks for this video Bob. Great. I'd have to choose the low seat height model because of my inside leg measurement. Would spec it up a touch with silver pin striping on the fuel tank, following the creases. One could make this machine a real looker.
Nice review of the different models. If you don't mind searching and perhaps holding off until you find the right one why not save a packet and get a used R 1150 or R 1200.
My current bike is Trident 660. And I would like to decide on my next bike purchase but i dont know what i should buy next. I like how thruxton looks. Should I buy a Thruxton?
A few years ago, Park Lane BMW in London had the met blue and chrome special edition in their window - what a peach! (Apologies for all the nose smudges, drool and finger prints all over the glass!) Other than that, I’ve found the heritage models a bit hit-and-miss... until now! These four make a cracking set! My favourite? Impossible choice, but the flake green scrambler with the lazy geometry and gold rims is more me 👍 Did someone say lazy?! Where do I sign...?
How so? It's just a Z900 with a few tweaks to make it into a retro, isn't it? I'm not saying it's a bad bike at all, but the equivalent would be BMW putting a round headlight etc. on the F900R.
@@motobob different engine tune, different gearing, different suspension (although the new z900 now has adjustable suspension, it didn't before 2020), different subframe and upper frame, the RS also had traction control before the Z900 so at the time was different, different wheels, higher spec monobloc brakes. So basically Kawasaki built the RS around the Z900 engine...kinda what BMW do with the boxer engine... or as you put it - putting a round headlight etc on any of the R1200 models.
Here in Thailand, the cost of the BMW R Nine T is ฿ 1,090,000 ($ 34,924.71 US, or £25,047.47), and the cost of the Triumph Rocket 3 R is ฿ 965,000.00 ($ 30,919.58 US, or £22,175.06), so the choice is easy. I wouldn't buy the BMW. I would buy the Triumph.
Lovely bikes but they got another price tag boost for 2021 and ... its too much. They re charging so much more than their naked modern bikes with better suspensions liquid cooled engines and electronics that it hurts.
If the "pure" had the inverted fork that would be my choice. It does not cost more to go inverted, at least not much more at the factory level. $5000 extra for a fork and better brakes? cmon BMW do you want to sell bikes or just pilfer extra cash from a few people?
Funny how this bike is considered retro - apart from a round headlight (and maybe the dials), what design element is retro? And that's just a question regarding design - there's certainly nothing retro about any of the engineering or parts/components.
@@simonwilkinson6407 Aesthetic. - Although on dirt roads, as with ALL true 'dirt bikes', they ALL ALWAYS have SPOKED Rims to allow for any 'flex'. If they had CAST Rims on Dirt Bikes they would break/crack due to the harsh punishment dirt bikes are made for. You will NEVER see any 'Dirt Bike' with CAST rims, NEVER. NEVER. IT is 'impossible'. (Well, it is possible, but they would all break/crack rendering them useless. Regards. )
For a couple of riding videos of the Urban GS, see my new second channel:
th-cam.com/channels/BL6BqONrfkdh77BZ_RgRCA.htmlvideos
takes balls to call a dealership Dick Lovett.
great informative video as always Bob
He specialises in shaft drive.
Man I was waiting for someone to mention this 😂
Lmao!!!
@@Englishbikerdan got every kind of lube in stock too.
Mike Hunt Suzuki are livid 🤣
40 years of riding, several brands from around the globe and various models then purchased my incredible 2017 R Nine T Scrambler - Satisfaction! This immensely capable machine takes me all distances and terrains without being stressed. Cannot fault these amazing rides.
This is the better version of R Nine T comparison than the one by BMW on TH-cam. Good job, man!
These little bikes are where it’s at! The Rninet isn’t a retro anything, more of a bike BMW made up to commemorate 90years of BMW. This doesn’t take away from the fact it’s an amazing little bike. I’ve always liked the Pure the best. 🤘
MOTOBOB !! You condensed all the essentials of 4 models into a concise informative video with visual displays for reference! If I was undecided on one of these, I’m sure this video would’ve helped immensely! Cheers from Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺😎👍
I test drove a Scrambler today and i loved it, but I think the best value for me is to get the Pure and throw on the $1000 upgrade package. It still saves me $3K off of the scrambler and keeps it lower than the T120 Gold LIne that i also drove.
What I just don't like, at least in Mexico, is how they keep getting more and more expensive without changing one thing. A dash without fuel level nor gear indicator is unacceptable at 13000 USD.
Put a gear indicator on the speedo I don't need the tach
Here in the Philippines it’s 20000 Usd.
Talk to your elected officials?
Since we are talking USD, inflation has been substantial the last few years. Keeping the price the same would be the same as dropping the price. The price must be raised just to keep parity
...I dropped one during a bike week test ride because they didn't tell me it had no gear indicator. I stalled because I was still in 2nd lmao
Blame inflation
Bar none the best break down of the line up, loving the scrambler. Cheers.
Nice Choice there mate and I'm loving that R nineT pure. And also it's under budget for European bike and i can ride it cause I'm short.
My oldest son came home with a new motorcycle yesterday. Now I want one. As a BMW car driver, here I am.
The best video I have seen. Each and everything you said was useful, no useless fluff that would force me to skip anything. Thanks for the upload.
The tubeless rims with the spokes off to the edge to keep them tubeless is a neat design. Every now and then BMW does something really clever.
The last model you mentioned also has an aluminum gas tank. I believe all the previous ones have steel tanks.
What considered better?
@@BamfIamone lighter is better
@@aka_pierre with all the ethanol in modern fuel I'd say the aluminum tank is more resistant to corrosion.
Being able to say Dick Lovett with a straight face is worth a thumbs up
I wish the scrambler and urban gs had the suspension to allow actual off-road riding
Seeing you at these Bristol dealerships takes me back 35 years to when I started riding 😊 Thanks man.
so shame they discontinued RACE version with the lovely front classic bullet-looking fairing.
Urban G/S. I will eagerly await your forthcoming review.
Oh I love an R9T. Great summary, but still can’t decide which one I like best. I think the sadly departed Racer had it on points because of its looks but now, it’s like choosing your favourite child.
scrambler is the better option
Fantastic video! I really like the original look, black and silver with gold forks, stunning!
I'm saving for one, the retro cafe racer, when I get my hand on one, the first mod that need to be done, is definitely those double stack exhaust.
Agreed on Urban GS. Beautiful bike.
I bought an F800GT recently and love it, wouldn't swap it. Though that Urban GS looks the nuts.
Such a good quality video! Great job
straight to the point. love motobob reviews!
Great job on the differentiation of the range. A+++
You are doing fantastic content and I love the podcast! Thank you from an Idaho, USA Adv rider.
Yes I do have future bikes planned out at every 5k price increases thanks for asking
Either the scrambler or, more likely, the pure with the brown seat and spoked wheels optioned.. 🤔
Yeah the pure but with the grey tank looks awesome. That scrambler tank job tho! Looks great
That is for the breakdown Rob. It’s hard to figure out the differences sometimes.
Just for price comparison. In Norway, the NineT Pure is £16,000 while the The Scrambler and Urban GS is £16,500. A fully spec'd up NineT Pure is £21,000. That's a Lot of money for a retro bike. That's Superbike territory. The Nine T Roadster is £19,600... Personally, i'd go with the Pure. Clean looks and stylish, combined with that i hit the twisties hard and never go off-road or on tour.
here in Thailand is nearly double that amount so don't complain!
Scintillating and useful presentation Bro.....My fav is RNineT....what a charming voice!!!! love your voice...
Dick Lovett best bike dealer in uk!👍
Great Video. I was thinking about RniteT and then I went to a dealer to try one (urban GS) ...it turned out that the sitting position is too sporty for my taste and the couch is very small (not able to reasonably accommodate a pillion when touring). It looks great and I'm sure that it is perfect for a short solo ride and an instagram photo.. but it is not what I've hoped for -> a do it all contemporary version of R80GS.
Agree, 850 or 750 gs instead.
@hetane That’s a totally fair, and in my experience, accurate, take. I had a 2014, which I ordered the first month they were available. It was a beautiful bike for solo riding, and I wish I hadn’t sold it five years later. But now that I’m a little older, I’d love a more comfortable seating position (even with risers installed I was still doing a lot of leaning forward) and an easier way to mount a bag. I’d love an updated R80GS, but as a shorter dude, I fear the R NineT is BMW’s only practical seat height.
Cool review Rob !
Comprehensive, relevant and accurate! Bravo and thank you!
Personally the normal, USD fork one with the all raw/brushed aluminium option.
Issue is that black specifically on the nineT is the softest black paint In the world
i'm gonna get a R9T in a couple weeks, most likely the classic roadster one
Congratulations
I will go for trident instead of the base model...but I do like the retro style
trident only if I'm too broke for the rninet lol
Great video, really helpful to pick the correct one
Nice 👍 round-up of the models.
Rode an Bumblebee Urban GS yesterday. While the built quality is top notch, and the engine is an absolute peach, i couldnt really warm up to it.
It feels a lot heavier than it actually is, probably due to the engine. I really disliked riding it in city traffic.
I would rather buy a Triump Speed Twin or a Guzzi V7.
Speed Twin the perfect bike, except if you are tall... the bike feels small for taller drivers.
The racer...second hand.... or the "simple" black one for me... Can you wrap me one and send it my way? none of the option719 blingbling things. they are all... a little off for me.
This channel is amazing, I think of something, search on TH-cam and there it is 🔥 🔥 🔥
They all look dented from the front. Front fork clearance could have been designed a little better.
They are lovely bikes and I almost bought one, but in the end I went for the 2021 GS1250. I love that retro look and the quirkiness but the GS does all the same and more.
Having no idea of pricing (which can vary country wise) was your GS1250 more or less than the range topper here? Cheers from Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺👍
@@darylclifford Hi, I reckon that the GS is a much more expensive bike, and would be around AUD 37,000 with all options. (24k EUR)
I sold my R1250GS to get an rninet, the gs is a good bike don't get me wrong but it lacks character for me. I have way more fun on the rninet. You feel disconnected from the road on the gs.
@@kowalski2334 you are right. I sold my GS and bought a frantic 500 scrambler...fun fun fun 😊
@@tonydare7614 that was quick 😂👍
Great video mahn 👍🏻
Bmw has a very different design lNguage in the bike world and there are very few that stand out like the ducati. Totally in love with the bmw range of bikes
Great summary. Thank you
Urban GS colours are close to my R100GS. Shaft drive arm looks to have been beefed up quite a bit. Performance is more than adequate in the real world. My R80GS was the better all round bike especially with that 32 litre tank that would get me from Melbourne to Canberra most of the way on 1 tank.
Do these RnineT models have tubeless tires? Our dealer in Manila only sells these with inner tubes, and prone to getting stranded on the road.
Nice vid, for me the Pure looksj so clean and tidy. The others are trying too hard. I wonder how hot they run as I live somewhere warm and cook on my little Ducati Scrambler
I can tell you. From riders perspective, not hot at all. The heat from the engine magically goes everywhere BUT you, which took me by surprise.
Now the BIKE on the other hand is tuned so lean that heat can actually shut the bike off if it determines its too hot. I had a moment it was 98degrees and after 30min of spirited riding it shut off at a stop light to keep itself cool. I asked a BMW tech about it and it is a confirmed feature of the bike.
The R nine T's are beautiful looking bikes. I almost went for one until I seen the price. Too expensive compared to the Bonneville range.
The bmw logo is worth like 1500 on its own
I want one so bad but you're paying such a premium for a few paint schemes and a bmw badge so I rather spend my money on a triumph or maybe a dual-sport Japanese bike.
The Ducati scrambler is half the price almost and just as good
And that's about what a 1200 thousand mile service will cost!
Real life review on the s1000r pls!!! I’ve ordered the race version but won’t arrive down to us here in OZ till end of July. Dying for review in English :) thanks for all the great work!
I think they should all come with a rev counter. A bit mean of BMW not to include one considering the price. Otherwise they all look very nice indeed.
Thanks for this video Bob. Great. I'd have to choose the low seat height model because of my inside
leg measurement. Would spec it up a touch with silver pin striping on the fuel tank, following the creases.
One could make this machine a real looker.
Really good comparison, thanks.
You didn’t talk about the seat height on the last R nine T is it 850
Aren't those the end cans that were created by Akrapovitch specifically for the Yamaha MT03 660 way back in 2006?
Great Video 👍 thanks
Nice review of the different models.
If you don't mind searching and perhaps holding off until you find the right one why not save a packet and get a used R 1150 or R 1200.
Very informative 👍
My current bike is Trident 660. And I would like to decide on my next bike purchase but i dont know what i should buy next. I like how thruxton looks. Should I buy a Thruxton?
Just wish they’d design a proper front mud guard for them 😎
The one with the dual clocks.I think that’s the Pure.
Would the Scrambler be a fair choice for a first bike purchase?
Yes
Overall on the 2024 R Nine T Pure base model, Is the dis coloring of exhaust headers a normal running or lean running fuel mixture?
A few years ago, Park Lane BMW in London had the met blue and chrome special edition in their window - what a peach! (Apologies for all the nose smudges, drool and finger prints all over the glass!) Other than that, I’ve found the heritage models a bit hit-and-miss... until now! These four make a cracking set! My favourite? Impossible choice, but the flake green scrambler with the lazy geometry and gold rims is more me 👍 Did someone say lazy?! Where do I sign...?
love the BMW R NineT Urban GS & BMW R NineT!!!
Thanks, Dick!
Good review
I can not decide between r Nine t scrambler and Indian ftr 1200 s.....which one makes more fun ?
Very useful. Thanks.
still getting it wrong when talking about the Z900RS
How so? It's just a Z900 with a few tweaks to make it into a retro, isn't it? I'm not saying it's a bad bike at all, but the equivalent would be BMW putting a round headlight etc. on the F900R.
@@motobob different engine tune, different gearing, different suspension (although the new z900 now has adjustable suspension, it didn't before 2020), different subframe and upper frame, the RS also had traction control before the Z900 so at the time was different, different wheels, higher spec monobloc brakes. So basically Kawasaki built the RS around the Z900 engine...kinda what BMW do with the boxer engine... or as you put it - putting a round headlight etc on any of the R1200 models.
@@stuartmoore8002 ok thanks for all the info stuart! I'll check one out when I can
Urban GS is the biz, not in that colour though.
does the height for the urban GS is the same as per previous year model?
R Nine T - What is the option for Dual Slip-on Exhaust?
High level egg sauced ???
I thought the 2021 year gets a tach?
So the new version or last year model of the R9T,
Any recommended front fairings for the pure? Did a 900 mi ride on mine and the wind drag was killing me.
are they good for beginner ,big fan
Here in Thailand, the cost of the BMW R Nine T is ฿ 1,090,000 ($ 34,924.71 US, or £25,047.47), and the cost of the Triumph Rocket 3 R is ฿ 965,000.00 ($ 30,919.58 US, or £22,175.06), so the choice is easy. I wouldn't buy the BMW. I would buy the Triumph.
the rockets are fugly though! plus way too bulky. Thai import taxes suck indeed for sure.
Can the R NineT top of the range model seat height be raised at all?
Great video - as always. Cheers ✌️
My height is 5'41'' which is 165cm.
Does it fit me guys? What do you think?
Brilliant comparison, thx, Regards from Still Bay , South Africa!
Scrambler is the best 💕
How fast does it go?
Make one for ducatibscamber
This is your local BMW dealership telling you to buy all of them with Option 719 packages
Useful indeed
I could ride all the way to Canada with this bike, my KTM is a great bike but it stays in Florida.
;o)
Lovely bikes but they got another price tag boost for 2021 and ... its too much. They re charging so much more than their naked modern bikes with better suspensions liquid cooled engines and electronics that it hurts.
If the "pure" had the inverted fork that would be my choice. It does not cost more to go inverted, at least not much more at the factory level. $5000 extra for a fork and better brakes? cmon BMW do you want to sell bikes or just pilfer extra cash from a few people?
i'll go for the rnint
Funny how this bike is considered retro - apart from a round headlight (and maybe the dials), what design element is retro? And that's just a question regarding design - there's certainly nothing retro about any of the engineering or parts/components.
For me only r nine t pure ❤️❤️
Asking the real questions
Do spoked tires require trueing as on bicycles? Do they require more maintenance than the mags? Thank you anyone.
NO, nothing.
(I believe you mean, spoked rims)
@@tpv59 Thank you for your response and clarifying terminology. Any performance difference or is it purely aesthetic?
@@simonwilkinson6407
Aesthetic.
- Although on dirt roads, as with ALL true 'dirt bikes', they ALL ALWAYS have SPOKED Rims to allow for any 'flex'. If they had CAST Rims on Dirt Bikes they would break/crack due to the harsh punishment dirt bikes are made for.
You will NEVER see any 'Dirt Bike' with CAST rims, NEVER. NEVER. IT is 'impossible'. (Well, it is possible, but they would all break/crack rendering them useless.
Regards. )
@@tpv59 Makes sense. Thanks Terry.
@@simonwilkinson6407
Pleasure.
Hav a gd 1.