Which BMW R NineT Should You Buy In 2022? (Pure vs Scrambler vs Urban GS)
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great informative video as always Bob
He specialises in shaft drive.
Man I was waiting for someone to mention this 😂
Lmao!!!
@@Englishbikerdan got every kind of lube in stock too.
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MOTOBOB !! You condensed all the essentials of 4 models into a concise informative video with visual displays for reference! If I was undecided on one of these, I’m sure this video would’ve helped immensely! Cheers from Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺😎👍
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That is for the breakdown Rob. It’s hard to figure out the differences sometimes.
straight to the point. love motobob reviews!
Cool review Rob !
The one with the dual clocks.I think that’s the Pure.
You didn’t talk about the seat height on the last R nine T is it 850
that dealer name bro i cant 😂
Overall on the 2024 R Nine T Pure base model, Is the dis coloring of exhaust headers a normal running or lean running fuel mixture?
I have a 2016 R9T... Out of the 8 bikes in my garage it is the worst handling, the harshest and most uncomfortable. The suspension is crap - especially the rear!! There is no slipper clutch which is just a pity! BMW is charging much too much for these bikes... Regards!
Haha correct.
Autos with 2 wheels...
Im not sure if you can have a slipper clutch on a single plate design that these have. Ill agree with you in suspension. Rear is just meh.
As far as price, i did my homework and got $1,000 off through BMW deals plus $750 military discount (which also means no taxes) to bring my 2020 /5 down to $9,995 out the door. Thats a really good price for this bike.
Useful indeed
Thruxton RS is also over 100hp
Thats a fair point - not had a go on one yet but I'll try in the next few months.
still getting it wrong when talking about the Z900RS
How so? It's just a Z900 with a few tweaks to make it into a retro, isn't it? I'm not saying it's a bad bike at all, but the equivalent would be BMW putting a round headlight etc. on the F900R.
@@motobob different engine tune, different gearing, different suspension (although the new z900 now has adjustable suspension, it didn't before 2020), different subframe and upper frame, the RS also had traction control before the Z900 so at the time was different, different wheels, higher spec monobloc brakes. So basically Kawasaki built the RS around the Z900 engine...kinda what BMW do with the boxer engine... or as you put it - putting a round headlight etc on any of the R1200 models.
@@stuartmoore8002 ok thanks for all the info stuart! I'll check one out when I can
So the new version or last year model of the R9T,
£11,950 for urban gs on bmw website and not the £11,515 as stated in the video
I got mine from the BMW UK press release. If you click on the configurator on the BMW website it actually goes down to the price I stated, so I guess they got it wrong on the product page?
What happened to English world using English standard units of measure????
You loose 10 of those horses to shaft drive easily.
Dick Lovett 🤣
What I just don't like, at least in Mexico, is how they keep getting more and more expensive without changing one thing. A dash without fuel level nor gear indicator is unacceptable at 13000 USD.
Put a gear indicator on the speedo I don't need the tach
Here in the Philippines it’s 20000 Usd.
Talk to your elected officials?
Since we are talking USD, inflation has been substantial the last few years. Keeping the price the same would be the same as dropping the price. The price must be raised just to keep parity
...I dropped one during a bike week test ride because they didn't tell me it had no gear indicator. I stalled because I was still in 2nd lmao
Blame inflation
40 years of riding, several brands from around the globe and various models then purchased my incredible 2017 R Nine T Scrambler - Satisfaction! This immensely capable machine takes me all distances and terrains without being stressed. Cannot fault these amazing rides.
I test drove a Scrambler today and i loved it, but I think the best value for me is to get the Pure and throw on the $1000 upgrade package. It still saves me $3K off of the scrambler and keeps it lower than the T120 Gold LIne that i also drove.
These little bikes are where it’s at! The Rninet isn’t a retro anything, more of a bike BMW made up to commemorate 90years of BMW. This doesn’t take away from the fact it’s an amazing little bike. I’ve always liked the Pure the best. 🤘
Bar none the best break down of the line up, loving the scrambler. Cheers.
Nice Choice there mate and I'm loving that R nineT pure. And also it's under budget for European bike and i can ride it cause I'm short.
so shame they discontinued RACE version with the lovely front classic bullet-looking fairing.
I wish the scrambler and urban gs had the suspension to allow actual off-road riding
Urban GS is the biz, not in that colour though.
The last model you mentioned also has an aluminum gas tank. I believe all the previous ones have steel tanks.
What considered better?
@@BamfIamone lighter is better
@@aka_pierre with all the ethanol in modern fuel I'd say the aluminum tank is more resistant to corrosion.
Urban G/S. I will eagerly await your forthcoming review.
If the "pure" had the inverted fork that would be my choice. It does not cost more to go inverted, at least not much more at the factory level. $5000 extra for a fork and better brakes? cmon BMW do you want to sell bikes or just pilfer extra cash from a few people?
FUEL GAUGE ....... FUEL GAUGE ...... FUEL GAUGE ....... Is the only thing that let's the bike down ...... lol
It does have one. The old school gauge.....a trip counter. Make it zero, ride to fuel light comes on, note what km/miles the light came on, and there ya go
I too miss the fuel petcocks with reserve.
Buy one anyway, set it up for storage and wait.
20 years from now, you might be able to sell or trade it for a meal.
I am still figuring if it's inflation or gouging _ _ _ Robbie
I too miss the fuel petcocks with reserve.
Buy one anyway, set it up for storage and wait.
20 years from now, you might be able to sell or trade it for a meal.
I am still figuring if it's inflation or gouging _ _ _ Robbie
Here in Thailand, the cost of the BMW R Nine T is ฿ 1,090,000 ($ 34,924.71 US, or £25,047.47), and the cost of the Triumph Rocket 3 R is ฿ 965,000.00 ($ 30,919.58 US, or £22,175.06), so the choice is easy. I wouldn't buy the BMW. I would buy the Triumph.
the rockets are fugly though! plus way too bulky. Thai import taxes suck indeed for sure.
The racer...second hand.... or the "simple" black one for me... Can you wrap me one and send it my way? none of the option719 blingbling things. they are all... a little off for me.
Do these RnineT models have tubeless tires? Our dealer in Manila only sells these with inner tubes, and prone to getting stranded on the road.
Either the scrambler or, more likely, the pure with the brown seat and spoked wheels optioned.. 🤔
Yeah the pure but with the grey tank looks awesome. That scrambler tank job tho! Looks great
This is the better version of R Nine T comparison than the one by BMW on TH-cam. Good job, man!
Great Video. I was thinking about RniteT and then I went to a dealer to try one (urban GS) ...it turned out that the sitting position is too sporty for my taste and the couch is very small (not able to reasonably accommodate a pillion when touring). It looks great and I'm sure that it is perfect for a short solo ride and an instagram photo.. but it is not what I've hoped for -> a do it all contemporary version of R80GS.
Agree, 850 or 750 gs instead.
@hetane That’s a totally fair, and in my experience, accurate, take. I had a 2014, which I ordered the first month they were available. It was a beautiful bike for solo riding, and I wish I hadn’t sold it five years later. But now that I’m a little older, I’d love a more comfortable seating position (even with risers installed I was still doing a lot of leaning forward) and an easier way to mount a bag. I’d love an updated R80GS, but as a shorter dude, I fear the R NineT is BMW’s only practical seat height.
Being able to say Dick Lovett with a straight face is worth a thumbs up
Agreed on Urban GS. Beautiful bike.
They all look dented from the front. Front fork clearance could have been designed a little better.
Yes I do have future bikes planned out at every 5k price increases thanks for asking
Rode an Bumblebee Urban GS yesterday. While the built quality is top notch, and the engine is an absolute peach, i couldnt really warm up to it.
It feels a lot heavier than it actually is, probably due to the engine. I really disliked riding it in city traffic.
I would rather buy a Triump Speed Twin or a Guzzi V7.
Speed Twin the perfect bike, except if you are tall... the bike feels small for taller drivers.
Would the Scrambler be a fair choice for a first bike purchase?
Yes
i'm gonna get a R9T in a couple weeks, most likely the classic roadster one
Congratulations
Oh I love an R9T. Great summary, but still can’t decide which one I like best. I think the sadly departed Racer had it on points because of its looks but now, it’s like choosing your favourite child.
scrambler is the better option
This is your local BMW dealership telling you to buy all of them with Option 719 packages
Urban GS colours are close to my R100GS. Shaft drive arm looks to have been beefed up quite a bit. Performance is more than adequate in the real world. My R80GS was the better all round bike especially with that 32 litre tank that would get me from Melbourne to Canberra most of the way on 1 tank.
Shame that such a quality bike has such a cheap plastic clock.
I could ride all the way to Canada with this bike, my KTM is a great bike but it stays in Florida.
;o)
The R nine T's are beautiful looking bikes. I almost went for one until I seen the price. Too expensive compared to the Bonneville range.
The bmw logo is worth like 1500 on its own
I want one so bad but you're paying such a premium for a few paint schemes and a bmw badge so I rather spend my money on a triumph or maybe a dual-sport Japanese bike.
The Ducati scrambler is half the price almost and just as good
And that's about what a 1200 thousand mile service will cost!
Fantastic video! I really like the original look, black and silver with gold forks, stunning!
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You took the words out of my mouth!
I will go for trident instead of the base model...but I do like the retro style
trident only if I'm too broke for the rninet lol
I bought an F800GT recently and love it, wouldn't swap it. Though that Urban GS looks the nuts.
The best video I have seen. Each and everything you said was useful, no useless fluff that would force me to skip anything. Thanks for the upload.
805mm seat height isn't exactly ideal for shorter riders. More like 775-ish
High level egg sauced ???
Just for price comparison. In Norway, the NineT Pure is £16,000 while the The Scrambler and Urban GS is £16,500. A fully spec'd up NineT Pure is £21,000. That's a Lot of money for a retro bike. That's Superbike territory. The Nine T Roadster is £19,600... Personally, i'd go with the Pure. Clean looks and stylish, combined with that i hit the twisties hard and never go off-road or on tour.
here in Thailand is nearly double that amount so don't complain!
Great job on the differentiation of the range. A+++
does the height for the urban GS is the same as per previous year model?
Looks like gobs of plastic on those things. >.>
Just wish they’d design a proper front mud guard for them 😎
Nice vid, for me the Pure looksj so clean and tidy. The others are trying too hard. I wonder how hot they run as I live somewhere warm and cook on my little Ducati Scrambler
I can tell you. From riders perspective, not hot at all. The heat from the engine magically goes everywhere BUT you, which took me by surprise.
Now the BIKE on the other hand is tuned so lean that heat can actually shut the bike off if it determines its too hot. I had a moment it was 98degrees and after 30min of spirited riding it shut off at a stop light to keep itself cool. I asked a BMW tech about it and it is a confirmed feature of the bike.
Your video quality makes me feel like these bikes don't exist... like they're just drawing some guy made with a computer.
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PS: I'm from India
Personally the normal, USD fork one with the all raw/brushed aluminium option.
Issue is that black specifically on the nineT is the softest black paint In the world
i like to stretch my legs out once in a while .
i would love to own one but the lowest model of these cost like 20,000 usd in my country. it's retarded over here.
I'm saving for one, the retro cafe racer, when I get my hand on one, the first mod that need to be done, is definitely those double stack exhaust.
Lovely bikes but they got another price tag boost for 2021 and ... its too much. They re charging so much more than their naked modern bikes with better suspensions liquid cooled engines and electronics that it hurts.
My favorite bike but expensive.
The tubeless rims with the spokes off to the edge to keep them tubeless is a neat design. Every now and then BMW does something really clever.
My current bike is Trident 660. And I would like to decide on my next bike purchase but i dont know what i should buy next. I like how thruxton looks. Should I buy a Thruxton?
Funny how this bike is considered retro - apart from a round headlight (and maybe the dials), what design element is retro? And that's just a question regarding design - there's certainly nothing retro about any of the engineering or parts/components.
This channel is amazing, I think of something, search on TH-cam and there it is 🔥 🔥 🔥
Any recommended front fairings for the pure? Did a 900 mi ride on mine and the wind drag was killing me.
My oldest son came home with a new motorcycle yesterday. Now I want one. As a BMW car driver, here I am.
Bmw has a very different design lNguage in the bike world and there are very few that stand out like the ducati. Totally in love with the bmw range of bikes
Scintillating and useful presentation Bro.....My fav is RNineT....what a charming voice!!!! love your voice...
Real life review on the s1000r pls!!! I’ve ordered the race version but won’t arrive down to us here in OZ till end of July. Dying for review in English :) thanks for all the great work!
Aren't those the end cans that were created by Akrapovitch specifically for the Yamaha MT03 660 way back in 2006?
A few years ago, Park Lane BMW in London had the met blue and chrome special edition in their window - what a peach! (Apologies for all the nose smudges, drool and finger prints all over the glass!) Other than that, I’ve found the heritage models a bit hit-and-miss... until now! These four make a cracking set! My favourite? Impossible choice, but the flake green scrambler with the lazy geometry and gold rims is more me 👍 Did someone say lazy?! Where do I sign...?
Nice review of the different models.
If you don't mind searching and perhaps holding off until you find the right one why not save a packet and get a used R 1150 or R 1200.
Thanks for this video Bob. Great. I'd have to choose the low seat height model because of my inside
leg measurement. Would spec it up a touch with silver pin striping on the fuel tank, following the creases.
One could make this machine a real looker.
I can not decide between r Nine t scrambler and Indian ftr 1200 s.....which one makes more fun ?
Comprehensive, relevant and accurate! Bravo and thank you!
this is a retro LOOKING motorcycle, so keep that in mind
Nice 👍 round-up of the models.
I think they should all come with a rev counter. A bit mean of BMW not to include one considering the price. Otherwise they all look very nice indeed.
Lol. Dick, love it.
Can the R NineT top of the range model seat height be raised at all?
R Nine T - What is the option for Dual Slip-on Exhaust?
9T Racer Forever...thats a shame they stop the production
Thank you.
How fast does it go?
Someone gift me an R9t , i will be forever loyal to him/her.
The two I want are no more
/5 or the Racer.
I will say that if you buy a bmw, expect to use it for a very very very long time
(See profile pic)
Lucky for me I have a Racer but the /5 is definitely my second favourite, shame it was only in the range for a year 🇬🇧🏍
?!?!? I went for the Pure and happy as a clam.
They are lovely bikes and I almost bought one, but in the end I went for the 2021 GS1250. I love that retro look and the quirkiness but the GS does all the same and more.
Having no idea of pricing (which can vary country wise) was your GS1250 more or less than the range topper here? Cheers from Sydney, Australia 🇦🇺👍
@@darylclifford Hi, I reckon that the GS is a much more expensive bike, and would be around AUD 37,000 with all options. (24k EUR)
I sold my R1250GS to get an rninet, the gs is a good bike don't get me wrong but it lacks character for me. I have way more fun on the rninet. You feel disconnected from the road on the gs.
@@kowalski2334 you are right. I sold my GS and bought a frantic 500 scrambler...fun fun fun 😊
@@tonydare7614 that was quick 😂👍