In this video I talk about the relevance of the 30-06 in our modern day hunting scene. I compare it to the 300 PRC and 6.5 Creedmoor. Hope you enjoy the video!
This new thing of being bothered about what a bullet does at 350/400 yards and even longer ranges is for the most part not relevant. Very few hunters can hunt ethnically at these ranges. What is more appropriate is to determine what hunt you are going on next and what the conditions most likely will be, what game you after. Then you can select the rifle and cartridge combination that is available to you. This is where the 30-06 and 308 trump most other just because of the number of options to choose from.
Don't know if .30-06 is king of the woods or not, but it certainly fought in some pretty famous forests and killed game in all the others for longer than anybody currently alive.
@@ChanoLeyva-hq2ci yeah I have a 26" .308. I'm running 178gr at 2843fps. Noslers site shows .30-06 max is the same. Of course my .308 is over pressure but ive measured everything and seem to be around 65-68k psi which is not terribly far over max of 63k. Basically, long way of saying my .308 is duplicating expected Max .30-06 loads lol.
@@marcmoore4115 I see that’s awesome to hear. I’m trying to push my 178 eld x as fast as possible thinking I can get 2800, I have a 22 inch barrel though
@@rosswitte I think you are 100% right. I would venture to guess that a 7mm-08 with modern propellants and super premium bullets is every bit as effective on game as a .30-06 was 100 years ago, and probably even 50 years ago.
I already have an 06 Remington 700 with 22inch barrel . Good truck and beater gun. A Winchester model 70 is looking good. As a reloader I have a multitude of brass , bullets, primers, and powder. I reload ammo for many cartridges, but the 30-06 simplifies things. Gets the job done without fuss.
I honestly couldn’t say the 700 action is smoother than the model 70 or vice versa. If you had to pick a winner between the two, which would you say is smoother?
@@strangemaycthe irony in this comment and the fact the creator like it is why this entire video is dismissible. The only thing worse than comparing a 300 PRC vs a 3006 would be to compare a 3006 to a 6.5 creedmoor 🤣
Carried my 06 for many years,it was step uncle's for many years. I didn't set it aside till I got my 270 WbyMag, wow what round. Now I carry my stainless Mark 5 deluxe in 300 Wby Mag.
My wife kinda took over my Vanguard in 30-06 last year. We shortened the barrel to 20" and got a titanium suppressor and now she thinks it is hers. I guess it is, and I need to get another one :)
Love my Weatherby Vanguard 2 30-06. Very accurate with RL-22 and 165 Nosler ballistic tips and they running 3000 fps out of its 24” barrel and sub 1/2” at 100 yards. One of my go to rifles 👍🏻
Delta pawn shop is the weatherby Mark v with a custom 280 AI barrel on it and it ultralight black stock this thing is a cool little mountain rifle price on a thousand bucks....I am THINKING hard about picking it up... (I have 8 30-06)... And SCORES of other rifles.... MOST NEVER GET SHIT...
Biggest advantage to 30-06 is, you can find Ammunition everywhere. If you hunt in remote parts of the country you can pick up ammo from a lot of mom and pop general stores. I'm yet to see any of the more exotic Hornady PRC cartridges available. You are not going to find 6.5 prc .300 and 7mm prc in remote mom and pop stores. In fact most of those individuals probably never heard of said cartridges. I live in Appalachia I can confirm this. The more common cartridges are still king in my neck of the woods. 30-06 has an excellent reputation for killing large bears and wild hogs alike. Our state does have a limited elk population that is huntable provided you get lucky and draw a tag. The guys that I've known who have drawn elk tags, most of them run tried and true 30-06. Don't let tacticool or any Gearhead competitor tell you the 06 is inadequate. If you get the opportunity to hunt in Africa, a PH would rather see you bring old 30-06 rather than one of these new exotic cartridges. In my opinion the 06 set the standard on what a big game cartridge should be. The 30-06 simply works. It does it's job well.
Candas biggest gift to the us has been football created at Mcgill university Montreal and ice hockey Mcgill university Montreal the best things from the US are Coca cola and the 30 .06
the 30.06 is proven calibre stick with a proven winner so versatile cartridge more grizzly bears have been taken with a 30 .06 than any other cartridge so the truth is there before you it is simple take the 30 .06
In this deer hunting state of PA im willing to bet theres more 30-06 ammo on the shelf at stores than anything else. Just about everyone had one, especially pump action remingtons, and I always hated it lol i respect it, but i went 300 wsm and 308 win. Covered my bases
Ngl, I’m a .308 guy. Mostly because I nearly never shoot past 250 yards, or hunt anything larger than a white tail. Don’t love the 6.5 creedmore, but absolutely agree that the 30-06 is the most well rounded, bada$$ cartridge out there. I never get people who poo-poo this round. It’s accurate, capable, and very common. High quality factory loads are as easy to find as for the .308 too. 10/10 cartridge, hands down! 💯
I used to have hunting rifles like a golfer has clubs. As I got older, had kids, and had less time to spend at the range, the more I condensed my cartridge selection. Though I still have a few options, I always keep a Stainless 30-06 as a failsafe for any hunting situation.
30-06 with modern projectiles isn’t even in the same category of the 30-06 from back in the day. 190 accubond LR going at the same speed as a 165 or 180 grain traditional soft point or round nose aren’t even comparable, let alone the newer modern powders. I think modern equipment let the 30-06 show a reasonable difference from 308 in the heavy for caliber bullets
Hellp Guys and Gals Wish I owned a 30-06 May someone educate me as to why the 30-06 can shoot these heavy bullets while stil stabilizing them ? As compared to the 270 which can only do it to 150 gr ?
The 30 06 is one of our great cartridges. Powerful enough for all game. It's been used on elephants (Eleanor o'conner) and cape Buffalo. Taken all north American game animals, hell even the 30-30 was used on big bears before the 30 06. As far as it being better than a 270 winchester that argument is older than both of us. Glad you young you tubers no better than all the great writers that came before you tube. Better bullets are the only advantage,though old corelots worked fine. Your comments on cartridges we grew up with and have 50 years experience with is not what modern gun people are curious about. Cover the new wiz bang cartridges that are unknowns and watch them slowly disappear as they do nothing the old cartridges haven't already accomplished . Good luck,being a rifle nut is addictive!
I have had quite a few calibers for hunting over the years. Always came back to the 06. So I settled for it for big game exclusively. Bonus is that it is about as un-tactical of a cartridge you can get - So You can get a really good used rifle for next to nothing these days.
The 7mm-08 is a superior hunting cartridge over the 6.5 Creedmoor for a youth or ‘small frame’ shooter. All the 7mm and 300 prc cartridges have done is reinvigorate my interest in the 7mm rem and 300 win mag as efficient magnum hunting distance cartridges. My favorite performer was my Weatherby 30-378 the gun was just so heavy to drag around in the mountains though..
🤪 Jim Harmer is Another One That Has Admittedly Never Even Owned a 30-06! 🙄 Yet, He is "Somehow" Able To Evaluate It's Effectiveness in the Field? 🤥 Sorry Austin, But The "Self Proclaimed U-Tube Experts" of The "Under 40 Crowd" - Who Often Can't Even Define "What A Woman Is" (🤪) - Wants To Give Me Relationship (Without Even Having Been With One) and Hunting Advice (Often, While Having Little To No Actual Experience) is Just a Receipt For Disaster! 💥🔥 My "Skepticism" is More Than Justified Here! 🧐
@ReloadingWeatherby But, When You Have Decades of Experience Testing Those ""Opinions"/Theories", Then You At Least Have "Evidence"/"Factual Information" To Help Evaluate What is True and What Isn't! Otherwise, Your Making An "Educated Guess" At Best! 🎯
Hopeful Ballistic and now you bagging on Impact Shooting for recommending mostly Hornady cartridges vs classic cartridges for hunting and long range shooting. He was mostly referring to factory ammo and rifles. But yes like Hopeful said for 95% of hunters and shooters the 30-06, 308 or 300 Win Mag are all good for hunting to what is considered hunting ranges.
@@ReloadingWeatherby yeah I should have used a different term. Americans like us are definitely going to have a different opinion about the 30-06. Even though he did actually grow up using the old reliable. Someone who does competitive shooting and hunts vs folks who mostly hunt are definitely going to have a different opinion. I like your comparison with the 06 vs 6.5 CM. I almost went with a 30-06 as my larger compliment to my 270 Win for out west game but wanted something with more juice 🧃 so since my Dad and one brother have 300 WM and my youngest brother at the time had a 7mm REM Mag I went with a 300 WSM back in 2019. Sadly now it’s impossible to find ammo for it, but plenty of 30-06, 308 and 300 Win Mag. Thankfully I can reload, even though powder prices have doubled and Large Rifle Magnum primers are hard to find
@@ReloadingWeatherby I have to agree with you that it’s AWESOME and I am looking forward to getting it back from the gunsmith tomorrow. I have a newer Savage Model 110 Long Range Hunter that came with an “adjustable” brake that wouldn’t turn off and on for me so I finally decided to get it threaded and a side port brake put on until I can get a good suppressor. Anyway to answer your question 🙋♂️ I currently have 200 grain ELDX, 180 grain Accubonds, and 150 grain Barnes TTSX waiting to develop loads for and try. I have been looking at other options too, but will probably wait unless I find some deals. I was shooting factory ammo with it for a while with good results but I do want to get back into reloading
I've always had a .308 or 30-06, currently a 30-06. Always will. Either caliber has always been more than enough for me here in Maine. I can understand anyone choosing differently but just because they have, why put down something else? Gun snobs are annoying.
It’s fun to experience different calibers and such, but a 30-06 will do anything you want except for large dangerous game. Even then it could but wouldn’t be recommended. 30-06 derivatives can expand your options, 25-06, 270,280,338-06,35 whelen
The biggest issue ive had with the PRC line is that they dont make an exceptional over existing rounds; the 6.5mm doesn't trike me as a reasonable competitor for the 6.5-.284 Norma or 6.5 RPM, the 7mm is within spitting distance of the 7mm Rem Mag and just a bit ahead of the .280 AI, the .300 is just splitting hairs against the Win, Wby and WSM
But unless you are building a rifle, how many factory rifles come in 6.5x284, or 6.5 RPM, or even most of the WBY cartridges? Let's not even talk ammo cost and availability. 7 Rem mag is the one place the point is valid for the average person, and even it has arguments both ways. Hornady marketing and distribution is a powerhouse and they make products for the average person.
For all the reasons mentioned tho and if you want to stay under 190gr why not a 7mm like a PRC or if you don't care for modern features a rem mag? It will do everything the 30-06 will do and if we're only talking about big game the barrel life difference wont matter to the average hunter as they wont take over 1,000 big game animals in a lifetime and that still leave what? 1,000 rnds? For sighting, load development and some range fun. and if you don't run your barrel hot you should get way more than that with in 'hunting accuracy'.
You could push a 130 grain Barnes TTSX to 3250 FPS with temperature stable powders. Probably you can go faster if you measure the case head with a micrometer to check for safe pressures. That’s a screaming impact velocity and flat trajectory for most big game hunting harvest distances. The bullet would maintain most of its mass and shank to deliver devastating wounding. This is well above the the traditional 150 grain speeds of 2,700 fps. Certainly .30-06 rifles don’t have fast twist barrels to stabilize long bullets; and I contend most hunters will never need those high twist rates and heavy long bullets anyway.
You Know.... when the 50 BMG is Just A Level Up 06........ YOu really can't argue with it............ balance man........ 110 to 220 grains...... and then some...... bruh..... 24inch........ and then... I mean...... isn't awesome boring?
The7mm has barrel burn out iss. More recoil using like wt. bullets. More powder . Smaller frontal area. Just wont shoot as heavy of bullets. There is more but you get what im saying. Good luck good hunting.
The ol -06 ... you can go into any sporting store on the planet and purchase ammo and hand loading drastically improves ballistics and you can even AI it to futher improve it .... the 6.5 creedmoor is excellent for what it was created for... to compete directly with the 308 in law enforcement and sniper applications., even less recoil ,less powder used great barrel life and bettered the 308 ballistics and is a very inherently accurate cartridge, I own a 6.5 CM and don't consider it a big game cartridge at all just a target rifle... that's what it was designed for and it is a excellent target rifle long barrel life (can easily shoot 5-10 rounds without heating the barrel to much) accurate, very low recoi, easy to load for ,great case life ,uses very little powder ... but again wouldnt consider it a big game cartridgel
Piet does NOT reflect the opinion of South African HUNTERS!!! He is an unethical hunter in my opinion. Furthermore it is NOT easy to obtain most of the calibers he is punting here. He was obviously on a Hornady high. He may be well versed in competition shooting but target shooting and hunting is not the same thing.
Austin I respect your decision to re-upload your video. His takes only make sense from a competitor’s perspective, but from a practical hunting perspective, no. I pointed out in his comment section no cross shops between 300 prc and 30-06. Also where I live there is no game or distance where a 30-06 wouldn’t work like a charm. Enjoy your view from the high road.
Yeah, the clip of the other guy’s video was removed. Perhaps copyright issue? Or maybe RW felt bad to paint the guy in a bad light. I had never heard of him until this 30-06 business.
@@ReloadingWeatherby I can respect that. Personally, I agree with most of what he said in the original video - but I absolutely disagreed with him saying to replace the .280 AI with a 7 PRC, or a .30-06 with a .300 PRC. Don't get me wrong, I like the PRC cartridges - a lot... but you can't really say that a magnum is a good replacement for a balanced cartridge. In my eyes, the best modern replacement for the .30-06... is the .280 AI. Maybe 6.5 PRC too, but I'd personally put it in a slightly 'lighter' class than the '06. To me the only thing that the '06 really has over the .280 AI of course is availability, but ignoring that, it's the 180gr-220gr bullet capability that would be beneficial for stuff like bears or other big/dangerous game at close ranges.
30-06 is a completely adequate cartridge, just like pretty much everything else. It’s much more about the bullets than the powder vessel or the launcher when it comes to big game hunting. At some point it’s just wasted breath for the sake of content to have these debates over and over and over and over and over again.
I absolutely adore the 30-06, I own 4 and am refinishing one now. As a hunter, reloader, and career shooter(I retired from the Marine Corps and other Government service lol) I have learned that there is no other need for anything more than an 06. Where I live it is still a renowned cartridge loved by many and still feared by many more lol. The range of bullets and weights that you can use and that are READILY AVAILABLE is almost unmatched by any other cartridge especially in longevity and usefulness. I used both the 5.56, and the 7.62 nato extensively during my career and I often times wished I had a 30-06 with some nosler accubonds or Speer hot cors hahaha god bless love the episode
I’ve been introduced to the 9.3x62 in the game The Hunter: Call of the Wild. IMO this cartridge is wildly under rated and should be way more popular than it is.
I just loaded 190gr ABLR to 2525fps in my 1:11 twist 30-06. Fired it at just above sealevel in 62F and the holes were perfect. I was not planning on using this bullet for hunting after reading that i almost certainly would struggle to stabilize it, but now i am curious. Do you think that they will still stabilize i in lower temperatures?
Can’t decide if I want to collect .30-06 rifles or .270 rifles - I currently have two of each: a Remington 700 Mountain Titanium (5.5 lb rifle) and a Ruger No. 1S in .30-06, and two Winchester M70’s in .270 - an Extreme Weather and a Featherweight. One of these days I will pick up a Winchester Super Grade - guess I’ll decide then.
@@robertmajors1737 2025 Will Be The 100th Anaversary of The 270 Winchester and Their Are Going To Be Some Beautiful Limited Addition ("Commerative") Rifles Released - So, Save Up Your Money! 🤑
@@robertmajors1737 thinking about doing the same thing. For a long time I leaned toward the maple Super Grade, but the French Walnut is pretty sweet. That would make three Winchester rifles chambered for the .270 Winchester in my collection- surely that’s enough, right?? ;-)
I know nobody loads EldMs in 30-06....but I think the 212 eldx or 208 eldm would be a closer comparison to the 143eldx creedmoor load.....l handload the 225 Eldm for my two Howa 1500s 22" barrels....I get 2650fps with like 5 powders, and I have got 2700+ with RL 26.....it to unavailable to use though.....yes the 30-06 is more than capable...even in 2024.
🤠 The Problem With Most of These U-Tube Channels Is People With a Lack of Hunting Experience Giving Hunting Advice! Pieter's Favorite Cartridge is The 6.5 prc! But, Has Pieter Ever Seen Shot or Shot An Elk, Moose, Wild Bison, or Grizzly Bear With It (Or, How About Dozens of Them - Especially At A Variey of Ranges)? NOPE! Just Because The Ballistics Look Good On Paper Doesn't Mean a Darn Thing! Yet, Jim Harmer's Latest Buffalo Hunt Is Yet Another Example of WHY People's "THEORIES" Are Often Wrong and They End Up Misleading Others - Without Decades of Hands On Personal Experiences! BULLET WEIGHT, CONSTRUCTION, DIAMETER, VELOCITY, AND B.C. ALL PLAY A PART! But, You'll Never Know How Well Things Work Unless You Actually Shoot Those Animals, As To What Works Well and What Doesn't (It's Just ALL "Conjecture")! 😂
for dear I use a pre WW2 Mannlicher Schoenour in 6.5x57 which has about the same ballistics as the 6.5 credemore. or a 30-30. for bigger game i use the 06 or 7mm Mag. The 06 is the better of the 2 in my opinion
Ryan at vortex likes 308 with 130 barnes. I really think a 138 hammer or the 130 barnes going 3300+ out of a 30-06 is the better option. Also, If you step up to a 160 hammer and still get slightly over 3000 fps. I really think in my lifetime we are going all copper for hunting. Wish mfgr's would speed up twist to 1 in 9 or 1 in 8.5.
Ehh, 99%+ of shooters shouldn't be taking shots at an animal beyond 300 yards. Both will work well for game up to Elk inside 400 yards as well. For the 1 half of 1 percent or less who can ethically take a shot on an animal beyond 400 yards there's other calibers that perform much better than 30-06. All magnums and will shoot flatter, fight wind better and retain more energy down range than 30-06 will. On top of that modern brakes and suppressors if someone chooses to use them will mitigate enough recoil that the difference between a braked magnum and unbraked 30-06/308 is almost indistinguishable. I have a braked win mag that's under 10 pounds ready to go and it's pleasant enough to shoot that I've had kids shoot it without issue. The big advantage of 6.5 Creedmoor that's being left out here is recoil impulse and rifle package size. Recoil from 6.5 Creedmoor is half of the 30-06 or less. For a new shooter who doesn't have the experience and training for recoil management and mitigation they can develop a pretty nasty flinch, especially in light weight rifles that are unbraked with heavy for caliber projectiles like you're mentioning. Same rifle lines from the same brands in the 2 calibers are usually a little bit lighter and around an inch shorter for the same barrel length. Someone doing some back country elk/deer hunt can appreciate the small weight savings and not getting hung up on branches as easily. That's not to say 30-06 isn't a great all around cartridge option as it can be for the right person, but for most people some other options are probably just a bit better when all factors are considered. In my opinion, 30-06 is the right choice for someone who grew up shooting, has the fundamentals of marksmanship down, and only wants 1 rifle to do everything from pigs and deer to elk and bear while keeping the range under 450/500 yards assuming they're capable enough to make an ethical shot at that distance. If they're new, I generally advise them to pick a bullet diameter they like between 6.5, 7mm, and 30 cal, start with a short action rifle there and if they get to the point of needing to shoot further than that caliber is capable of with the skill to match, then pick a magnum in the same diameter.
Odd, i just rebarreled 1 .30-06, and have two other custom builds on my bench. Have never had a request for any PRC cartridges nor 6.5 Creedmore custom builds.
Did the same just before last deer season. Went from a PacNor to a Brux. As to PRC builds, the guys I use have already had to replace their 6.5, 7, and 300PRC reamers a few times each. May be a regional thing?
@@Accuracy1st I use strictly Pac Nor barrels with polygonal rifling, have for over 20 years. Yes, I think it is a regional thing but also a demographic thing with younger shooters who are unfamiliar with different chamberings.
30-06 will always be the "If it ain't broke don't fix it" option for rifles and anyone doesn't believe it's a wise choice lives somewhere outside of reality. Or they don't use their rifles in any practical environment.
I own a 06 in a savage 111 trophy hunter package gun with a scope something just cheap truck gun for me but shoots very very good, that other tuber made me laugh really hard im not even that old ( in my 30's) and i couldnt even take him serious and have to stop watching his vid half way, he clearly one of the newer shooters of today and he looks round my age and makes me cringe lol no no no no no......lol
@ReloadingWeatherby great for what it is I'd pick it over the 308 winchester if you want my opinion, especially since neither are all that great past 700 maybe 800 yards at max and even out to 7 and 800 I like how much more I can get from the 06, if you handload it especially in my gun it'll stack 150's for $400 gun it blows my mind
How did you know i was thinking hard about an '06?? I got the urge to get a BAR. I've never had a big bore semi, and i wanna try one. They have a great reputation for accuracy for hunting (ie, just a few rounds being shot). And with today's really good factory ammo, it could be an easy 400yd muley gun.
There is nothing a 30-06 does better than many other cartridges out there. Even more so when you consider the vast majority of hunters will never shoot more than 200-250 yards. It is just another cartridge nothing special. Not saying it is a bad cartridge but it also isn't the best.
With so much 30-06 load data available, it's pretty simple to work up loads. I recently worked up a load for my Savage 116 Euro Classic, using Ramshot Big Game powder and 165 Grand Slam at 2,825 fps with sub-MOA accuracy and no signs of over pressure. Even though I stopped where I did because I was happy with the accuracy and velocity, it did appear that possibly velocity could be expanded beyond that point. My barrel is only 22 inches, but it seemed like I left a little more velocity in reserve which is fine. I would rather hit my mark and not be stressing the rifle.
Lol get a dirty 3006,,how many do i need i already have 3 of them,,two old early 60 weatherby deluxe guns and a Remington 7400 i got brand new in 1987,,,yup i guess i need to get a ruger #1 now so i can really hot rod the dirty 3006
Those that have one, Won't swap it for something else. New buyers are looking at the new pretty girl on the block. Using the right powder it'l match old 300 WM (Data) performance. There isn't game in America that can't be taken with the 30-06 out to 500 yds
The thing is that the 30-06 can do everything and is very efficient, but it is tremendously boring and does not have the glamour and marketing of the new calibers... but even so it is still an all-rounder for hunting all over the world....
The video he made was made for new hunters/gun owners who presumably have no reloading experience so he recommended cartridges that are more efficient and to shoot heavy bullets rather than recommend a cartridge that has to have a custom twist barrel and a long throat to efficiently shoot the heavy bullets. The 30-06 is a great cartridge but not everyone has the time and money to do load development, and get a custom barrel to get the same performance you could get out of something else in a factory configuration
@@ReloadingWeatherby but you have to reload those bullets to be able to shoot them in a 30-06. There are not factory options in the 212 grain range, there are only two options for the 220 grain range one from federal and one from Remington. So you can’t get the same performance without reloading
30-06 is king. Literally does everything
Why would you want a 30-06 when I heard Hornady is coming out with the 30-0PRC!😅
This new thing of being bothered about what a bullet does at 350/400 yards and even longer ranges is for the most part not relevant. Very few hunters can hunt ethnically at these ranges. What is more appropriate is to determine what hunt you are going on next and what the conditions most likely will be, what game you after. Then you can select the rifle and cartridge combination that is available to you. This is where the 30-06 and 308 trump most other just because of the number of options to choose from.
Take a 3006 any day of the week
30-06 Springfield. Still king of the woods.
Thanks for watchful
Don't know if .30-06 is king of the woods or not, but it certainly fought in some pretty famous forests and killed game in all the others for longer than anybody currently alive.
Love the 30-06
Everyone should own a 30-06.
I need to get one
I got 308 will do pretty much the same shit lol
@@ChanoLeyva-hq2ci yeah I have a 26" .308. I'm running 178gr at 2843fps. Noslers site shows .30-06 max is the same. Of course my .308 is over pressure but ive measured everything and seem to be around 65-68k psi which is not terribly far over max of 63k.
Basically, long way of saying my .308 is duplicating expected Max .30-06 loads lol.
@@ReloadingWeatherby ahh but it's outdated. I think you should get a .300 PRC... lol
I'd love to see what you can do with your own .30-06 loads.
@@marcmoore4115 I see that’s awesome to hear. I’m trying to push my 178 eld x as fast as possible thinking I can get 2800, I have a 22 inch barrel though
Every older cartridge has been promoted due to new components and projectiles. 308 is 30-06, 30-06 is 300 Win Mag and on it goes...
@@rosswitte I think you are 100% right. I would venture to guess that a 7mm-08 with modern propellants and super premium bullets is every bit as effective on game as a .30-06 was 100 years ago, and probably even 50 years ago.
I already have an 06 Remington 700 with 22inch barrel . Good truck and beater gun. A Winchester model 70 is looking good. As a reloader I have a multitude of brass , bullets, primers, and powder. I reload ammo for many cartridges, but the 30-06 simplifies things. Gets the job done without fuss.
Thanks for commenting
I honestly couldn’t say the 700 action is smoother than the model 70 or vice versa. If you had to pick a winner between the two, which would you say is smoother?
Not gonna lie all this hullabaloo about this guy’s negative opinion of the 06 is making me want to buy an 06.
haha me too
Do it 😂
when i heard him say 300 prc over a 30-06 had me thinking thats not the same at all
@@strangemaycthe irony in this comment and the fact the creator like it is why this entire video is dismissible. The only thing worse than comparing a 300 PRC vs a 3006 would be to compare a 3006 to a 6.5 creedmoor 🤣
Carried my 06 for many years,it was step uncle's for many years. I didn't set it aside till I got my 270 WbyMag, wow what round. Now I carry my stainless Mark 5 deluxe in 300 Wby Mag.
Thanks for the honest none biased video .
Thanks Paul for watching!
My wife kinda took over my Vanguard in 30-06 last year. We shortened the barrel to 20" and got a titanium suppressor and now she thinks it is hers. I guess it is, and I need to get another one :)
Nice
Bugger, you have to buy another rifle. Dam life's tough.😏
Love my Weatherby Vanguard 2 30-06. Very accurate with RL-22 and 165 Nosler ballistic tips and they running 3000 fps out of its 24” barrel and sub 1/2” at 100 yards. One of my go to rifles 👍🏻
Very nice
I just really wish the 270 AI would takeoff more.
Delta pawn shop is the weatherby Mark v with a custom 280 AI barrel on it and it ultralight black stock this thing is a cool little mountain rifle price on a thousand bucks....I am THINKING hard about picking it up... (I have 8 30-06)... And SCORES of other rifles.... MOST NEVER GET SHIT...
500 yards Is long distance
It is a long shot
I took my first deer with a 30-06 when I was 12. Even though I don't have one now it will always be special to me.
165gr TTSX in front of 63gr of IMR 4350 is my best load. I get 3000fps out of my gun and it's very accurate. I sight mine in for zero at 230 yards.
Nice!
63 grains is a pretty hot load!!!
That's probably too much juice man.
Biggest advantage to 30-06 is, you can find Ammunition everywhere. If you hunt in remote parts of the country you can pick up ammo from a lot of mom and pop general stores. I'm yet to see any of the more exotic Hornady PRC cartridges available. You are not going to find 6.5 prc .300 and 7mm prc in remote mom and pop stores. In fact most of those individuals probably never heard of said cartridges. I live in Appalachia I can confirm this. The more common cartridges are still king in my neck of the woods. 30-06 has an excellent reputation for killing large bears and wild hogs alike. Our state does have a limited elk population that is huntable provided you get lucky and draw a tag. The guys that I've known who have drawn elk tags, most of them run tried and true 30-06. Don't let tacticool or any Gearhead competitor tell you the 06 is inadequate. If you get the opportunity to hunt in Africa, a PH would rather see you bring old 30-06 rather than one of these new exotic cartridges. In my opinion the 06 set the standard on what a big game cartridge should be. The 30-06 simply works. It does it's job well.
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Candas biggest gift to the us has been football created at Mcgill university Montreal and ice hockey Mcgill university Montreal the best things from the US are Coca cola and the 30 .06
the 30.06 is proven calibre stick with a proven winner so versatile cartridge more grizzly bears have been taken with a 30 .06 than any other cartridge so the truth is there before you it is simple take the 30 .06
I'm getting over 3100 FPS with a 150 GR bullet in my 30-06 using WIN 748 powder.
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Every household who loves America should have two 30-06's
I do- a 1949 pre- 64 m70 Standard and a Kimber 84L Montana ! Both are easily sub MOA with Handloads.
@@JamesClark-lw6sw nice!!
@@JamesClark-lw6sw got an ol Springfield 03A3, 1943, and a new Woodstock Weatherby Vangaurd
In this deer hunting state of PA im willing to bet theres more 30-06 ammo on the shelf at stores than anything else. Just about everyone had one, especially pump action remingtons, and I always hated it lol i respect it, but i went 300 wsm and 308 win. Covered my bases
If I did not inherit dad's Remington M700 30-06, I would have bought one.
Nice
Ngl, I’m a .308 guy. Mostly because I nearly never shoot past 250 yards, or hunt anything larger than a white tail.
Don’t love the 6.5 creedmore, but absolutely agree that the 30-06 is the most well rounded, bada$$ cartridge out there.
I never get people who poo-poo this round. It’s accurate, capable, and very common. High quality factory loads are as easy to find as for the .308 too.
10/10 cartridge, hands down! 💯
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Versatility is overrated. Buy more guns and have the right tool for the job
I like having options...
I used to have hunting rifles like a golfer has clubs. As I got older, had kids, and had less time to spend at the range, the more I condensed my cartridge selection. Though I still have a few options, I always keep a Stainless 30-06 as a failsafe for any hunting situation.
30-06 with modern projectiles isn’t even in the same category of the 30-06 from back in the day. 190 accubond LR going at the same speed as a 165 or 180 grain traditional soft point or round nose aren’t even comparable, let alone the newer modern powders. I think modern equipment let the 30-06 show a reasonable difference from 308 in the heavy for caliber bullets
Yep
Hellp Guys and Gals
Wish I owned a 30-06
May someone educate me as to why the 30-06 can shoot these heavy bullets while stil stabilizing them ? As compared to the 270 which can only do it to 150 gr ?
270 is a smaller diameter projectile. the wider the projectile the slower the twist you can have.
The 30 06 is one of our great cartridges. Powerful enough for all game. It's been used on elephants (Eleanor o'conner) and cape Buffalo. Taken all north American game animals, hell even the 30-30 was used on big bears before the 30 06. As far as it being better than a 270 winchester that argument is older than both of us. Glad you young you tubers no better than all the great writers that came before you tube. Better bullets are the only advantage,though old corelots worked fine. Your comments on cartridges we grew up with and have 50 years experience with is not what modern gun people are curious about. Cover the new wiz bang cartridges that are unknowns and watch them slowly disappear as they do nothing the old cartridges haven't already accomplished . Good luck,being a rifle nut is addictive!
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I have had quite a few calibers for hunting over the years. Always came back to the 06. So I settled for it for big game exclusively. Bonus is that it is about as un-tactical of a cartridge you can get - So You can get a really good used rifle for next to nothing these days.
The 7mm-08 is a superior hunting cartridge over the 6.5 Creedmoor for a youth or ‘small frame’ shooter. All the 7mm and 300 prc cartridges have done is reinvigorate my interest in the 7mm rem and 300 win mag as efficient magnum hunting distance cartridges. My favorite performer was my Weatherby 30-378 the gun was just so heavy to drag around in the mountains though..
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He obviously doesn't hunt like we do in Pennsylvania. 30-06 is used by more bear hunters that I know than all others combined.
Thanks for sharing. It sounds like 30-06 is used a lot in South Africa as well.
I agree. Pennsylvania here as well. 30/06,
308, .270, 30/30,
300 Savage. All very popular here.
🤪 Jim Harmer is Another One That Has Admittedly Never Even Owned a 30-06! 🙄 Yet, He is "Somehow" Able To Evaluate It's Effectiveness in the Field? 🤥 Sorry Austin, But The "Self Proclaimed U-Tube Experts" of The "Under 40 Crowd" - Who Often Can't Even Define "What A Woman Is" (🤪) - Wants To Give Me Relationship (Without Even Having Been With One) and Hunting Advice (Often, While Having Little To No Actual Experience) is Just a Receipt For Disaster! 💥🔥 My "Skepticism" is More Than Justified Here! 🧐
Opinions are like butts... everyone has them and they all stink
@ReloadingWeatherby But, When You Have Decades of Experience Testing Those ""Opinions"/Theories", Then You At Least Have "Evidence"/"Factual Information" To Help Evaluate What is True and What Isn't! Otherwise, Your Making An "Educated Guess" At Best! 🎯
Did you have to reupload this video because of the Impact Shooting clip at the beginning earlier today?
I decided to take it out. No need to make enemies with other GunTubers
I kick .270 and .30-06 around all the time
Hopeful Ballistic and now you bagging on Impact Shooting for recommending mostly Hornady cartridges vs classic cartridges for hunting and long range shooting.
He was mostly referring to factory ammo and rifles.
But yes like Hopeful said for 95% of hunters and shooters the 30-06, 308 or 300 Win Mag are all good for hunting to what is considered hunting ranges.
I'm certainly not bagging on Impact Shooting. We just have a different opinion on this subject.
@@ReloadingWeatherby yeah I should have used a different term. Americans like us are definitely going to have a different opinion about the 30-06. Even though he did actually grow up using the old reliable. Someone who does competitive shooting and hunts vs folks who mostly hunt are definitely going to have a different opinion. I like your comparison with the 06 vs 6.5 CM.
I almost went with a 30-06 as my larger compliment to my 270 Win for out west game but wanted something with more juice 🧃 so since my Dad and one brother have 300 WM and my youngest brother at the time had a 7mm REM Mag I went with a 300 WSM back in 2019. Sadly now it’s impossible to find ammo for it, but plenty of 30-06, 308 and 300 Win Mag. Thankfully I can reload, even though powder prices have doubled and Large Rifle Magnum primers are hard to find
@@TheWVgoodguy22 300 WSM is awesome. What bullet are you reloading for it?
@@ReloadingWeatherby I have to agree with you that it’s AWESOME and I am looking forward to getting it back from the gunsmith tomorrow. I have a newer Savage Model 110 Long Range Hunter that came with an “adjustable” brake that wouldn’t turn off and on for me so I finally decided to get it threaded and a side port brake put on until I can get a good suppressor.
Anyway to answer your question 🙋♂️ I currently have 200 grain ELDX, 180 grain Accubonds, and 150 grain Barnes TTSX waiting to develop loads for and try. I have been looking at other options too, but will probably wait unless I find some deals. I was shooting factory ammo with it for a while with good results but I do want to get back into reloading
“The Real Gunsmith” channel had a very good video on this, too. He wasn’t calling out anyone. However, it was obvious what he was discussing.
I've always had a .308 or 30-06, currently a 30-06. Always will. Either caliber has always been more than enough for me here in Maine. I can understand anyone choosing differently but just because they have, why put down something else? Gun snobs are annoying.
It’s fun to experience different calibers and such, but a 30-06 will do anything you want except for large dangerous game. Even then it could but wouldn’t be recommended.
30-06 derivatives can expand your options, 25-06, 270,280,338-06,35 whelen
The biggest issue ive had with the PRC line is that they dont make an exceptional over existing rounds; the 6.5mm doesn't trike me as a reasonable competitor for the 6.5-.284 Norma or 6.5 RPM, the 7mm is within spitting distance of the 7mm Rem Mag and just a bit ahead of the .280 AI, the .300 is just splitting hairs against the Win, Wby and WSM
Good points
But unless you are building a rifle, how many factory rifles come in 6.5x284, or 6.5 RPM, or even most of the WBY cartridges? Let's not even talk ammo cost and availability. 7 Rem mag is the one place the point is valid for the average person, and even it has arguments both ways. Hornady marketing and distribution is a powerhouse and they make products for the average person.
@@TrademarkMediaTM savage has the 6.5-284 in a sub $600 rifle
For all the reasons mentioned tho and if you want to stay under 190gr why not a 7mm like a PRC or if you don't care for modern features a rem mag? It will do everything the 30-06 will do and if we're only talking about big game the barrel life difference wont matter to the average hunter as they wont take over 1,000 big game animals in a lifetime and that still leave what? 1,000 rnds? For sighting, load development and some range fun. and if you don't run your barrel hot you should get way more than that with in 'hunting accuracy'.
You could push a 130 grain Barnes TTSX to 3250 FPS with temperature stable powders. Probably you can go faster if you measure the case head with a micrometer to check for safe pressures. That’s a screaming impact velocity and flat trajectory for most big game hunting harvest distances. The bullet would maintain most of its mass and shank to deliver devastating wounding. This is well above the the traditional 150 grain speeds of 2,700 fps. Certainly .30-06 rifles don’t have fast twist barrels to stabilize long bullets; and I contend most hunters will never need those high twist rates and heavy long bullets anyway.
You Know.... when the 50 BMG is Just A Level Up 06........ YOu really can't argue with it............ balance man........ 110 to 220 grains...... and then some...... bruh..... 24inch........ and then... I mean...... isn't awesome boring?
The7mm has barrel burn out iss. More recoil using like wt. bullets. More powder . Smaller frontal area. Just wont shoot as heavy of bullets. There is more but you get what im saying. Good luck good hunting.
PS - Who_Tee_Who is taking a .30-06 to hunt in African. I'm guessing he's going to do okay with it.
I test, own and reload a lot of different rifles but I always have a 30-06 on hand!
The ol -06 ... you can go into any sporting store on the planet and purchase ammo and hand loading drastically improves ballistics and you can even AI it to futher improve it .... the 6.5 creedmoor is excellent for what it was created for... to compete directly with the 308 in law enforcement and sniper applications., even less recoil ,less powder used great barrel life and bettered the 308 ballistics and is a very inherently accurate cartridge, I own a 6.5 CM and don't consider it a big game cartridge at all just a target rifle... that's what it was designed for and it is a excellent target rifle long barrel life (can easily shoot 5-10 rounds without heating the barrel to much) accurate, very low recoi, easy to load for ,great case life ,uses very little powder ... but again wouldnt consider it a big game cartridgel
Hell yeah the 06 absolutely loves IMR4064 and IMR4350. It’ll make a fool out of anyone who talks shit on the 06. Fact!
Piet does NOT reflect the opinion of South African HUNTERS!!! He is an unethical hunter in my opinion. Furthermore it is NOT easy to obtain most of the calibers he is punting here. He was obviously on a Hornady high. He may be well versed in competition shooting but target shooting and hunting is not the same thing.
Austin I respect your decision to re-upload your video. His takes only make sense from a competitor’s perspective, but from a practical hunting perspective, no. I pointed out in his comment section no cross shops between 300 prc and 30-06. Also where I live there is no game or distance where a 30-06 wouldn’t work like a charm. Enjoy your view from the high road.
I could have sworn I saw a slightly longer version of this video just a few hours ago… 🤔
Fair play though. It’s great to see differing ideas discussed without having to throw shade at the opinions of others. 👍
Maybe...
Yeah, the clip of the other guy’s video was removed. Perhaps copyright issue? Or maybe RW felt bad to paint the guy in a bad light. I had never heard of him until this 30-06 business.
@@phild9813 I don't need to make enemies of other TH-camrs... so I deleted it
@@ReloadingWeatherby I can respect that. Personally, I agree with most of what he said in the original video - but I absolutely disagreed with him saying to replace the .280 AI with a 7 PRC, or a .30-06 with a .300 PRC. Don't get me wrong, I like the PRC cartridges - a lot... but you can't really say that a magnum is a good replacement for a balanced cartridge.
In my eyes, the best modern replacement for the .30-06... is the .280 AI. Maybe 6.5 PRC too, but I'd personally put it in a slightly 'lighter' class than the '06. To me the only thing that the '06 really has over the .280 AI of course is availability, but ignoring that, it's the 180gr-220gr bullet capability that would be beneficial for stuff like bears or other big/dangerous game at close ranges.
to day i made 2700 F/s in an 231 grein bulet in 9,3x62...
Oh nice
30-06 is a completely adequate cartridge, just like pretty much everything else. It’s much more about the bullets than the powder vessel or the launcher when it comes to big game hunting. At some point it’s just wasted breath for the sake of content to have these debates over and over and over and over and over again.
I absolutely adore the 30-06, I own 4 and am refinishing one now. As a hunter, reloader, and career shooter(I retired from the Marine Corps and other Government service lol) I have learned that there is no other need for anything more than an 06. Where I live it is still a renowned cartridge loved by many and still feared by many more lol. The range of bullets and weights that you can use and that are READILY AVAILABLE is almost unmatched by any other cartridge especially in longevity and usefulness. I used both the 5.56, and the 7.62 nato extensively during my career and I often times wished I had a 30-06 with some nosler accubonds or Speer hot cors hahaha god bless love the episode
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😢 Grandpa's 30 06 has killed more dears than you ever seen.
Not mention elk moose caribou grizzly bears black bears and i'm sure List goes on
No self-respecting thousand yard hunter will even consider using a 30'06. (yes, that's sarcasm)
In skandinavia we use 6,5x55 .... 140 grein bullet...but i use 9,3x62......red dear drop on the spot ( hawe not try it on an mos)
I’ve been introduced to the 9.3x62 in the game The Hunter: Call of the Wild. IMO this cartridge is wildly under rated and should be way more popular than it is.
@@jackbolen5001 I think it is the best you kan use on game....hewy bullets to BIG Game...Lettere til mindre... Dropp on the spott
I just loaded 190gr ABLR to 2525fps in my 1:11 twist 30-06. Fired it at just above sealevel in 62F and the holes were perfect.
I was not planning on using this bullet for hunting after reading that i almost certainly would struggle to stabilize it, but now i am curious. Do you think that they will still stabilize i in lower temperatures?
It's marginally stable, with that being said you will still get good groups, you just loose some of your b.c.
Can’t decide if I want to collect .30-06 rifles or .270 rifles - I currently have two of each: a Remington 700 Mountain Titanium (5.5 lb rifle) and a Ruger No. 1S in .30-06, and two Winchester M70’s in .270 - an Extreme Weather and a Featherweight. One of these days I will pick up a Winchester Super Grade - guess I’ll decide then.
When you get there you might want to try Grice Gunshop in central PA. They deal in a lot of special order stuff.
🤔 Why Don't You Mix It Up and Get Yourself a 280 AI (If You Handload)?
My dad has a new (FN made) M70 super grade in 270. It's a sweet shooting rifle and a looker too.
@@robertmajors1737 2025 Will Be The 100th Anaversary of The 270 Winchester and Their Are Going To Be Some Beautiful Limited Addition ("Commerative") Rifles Released - So, Save Up Your Money! 🤑
@@robertmajors1737 thinking about doing the same thing. For a long time I leaned toward the maple Super Grade, but the French Walnut is pretty sweet. That would make three Winchester rifles chambered for the .270 Winchester in my collection- surely that’s enough, right?? ;-)
I know nobody loads EldMs in 30-06....but I think the 212 eldx or 208 eldm would be a closer comparison to the 143eldx creedmoor load.....l handload the 225 Eldm for my two Howa 1500s 22" barrels....I get 2650fps with like 5 powders, and I have got 2700+ with RL 26.....it to unavailable to use though.....yes the 30-06 is more than capable...even in 2024.
Thanks for sharing
That is why I own both calibres (30-06 AND 300PRC)
I didn’t quite appreciate he’s recent cartridge video either !
And you bay an 340 weterby 🤣🤣🤣
Why a 30-06? Logistics > Minutiae
I prefer calling it the "Thirty Oh Six" just to piss the Fudds off
Tomato Tomato...
Nice video!
30-06 made for killing communism
Thank you for doing this video.
Thanks for watching Frank
🤠 The Problem With Most of These U-Tube Channels Is People With a Lack of Hunting Experience Giving Hunting Advice! Pieter's Favorite Cartridge is The 6.5 prc! But, Has Pieter Ever Seen Shot or Shot An Elk, Moose, Wild Bison, or Grizzly Bear With It (Or, How About Dozens of Them - Especially At A Variey of Ranges)? NOPE! Just Because The Ballistics Look Good On Paper Doesn't Mean a Darn Thing! Yet, Jim Harmer's Latest Buffalo Hunt Is Yet Another Example of WHY People's "THEORIES" Are Often Wrong and They End Up Misleading Others - Without Decades of Hands On Personal Experiences! BULLET WEIGHT, CONSTRUCTION, DIAMETER, VELOCITY, AND B.C. ALL PLAY A PART! But, You'll Never Know How Well Things Work Unless You Actually Shoot Those Animals, As To What Works Well and What Doesn't (It's Just ALL "Conjecture")! 😂
I saw that video from Backfire. Very interesting
My old colt coltsman 30/06 still getting done
for dear I use a pre WW2 Mannlicher Schoenour in 6.5x57 which has about the same ballistics as the 6.5 credemore. or a 30-30. for bigger game i use the 06 or 7mm Mag. The 06 is the better of the 2 in my opinion
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Ryan at vortex likes 308 with 130 barnes. I really think a 138 hammer or the 130 barnes going 3300+ out of a 30-06 is the better option. Also, If you step up to a 160 hammer and still get slightly over 3000 fps. I really think in my lifetime we are going all copper for hunting. Wish mfgr's would speed up twist to 1 in 9 or 1 in 8.5.
If we have to go to all copper I bet companies start putting faster twists
If you don't care about anything bye a 30-06 ,it will probably work just fine
What does this even mean? lol
Ehh, 99%+ of shooters shouldn't be taking shots at an animal beyond 300 yards. Both will work well for game up to Elk inside 400 yards as well. For the 1 half of 1 percent or less who can ethically take a shot on an animal beyond 400 yards there's other calibers that perform much better than 30-06. All magnums and will shoot flatter, fight wind better and retain more energy down range than 30-06 will. On top of that modern brakes and suppressors if someone chooses to use them will mitigate enough recoil that the difference between a braked magnum and unbraked 30-06/308 is almost indistinguishable. I have a braked win mag that's under 10 pounds ready to go and it's pleasant enough to shoot that I've had kids shoot it without issue.
The big advantage of 6.5 Creedmoor that's being left out here is recoil impulse and rifle package size. Recoil from 6.5 Creedmoor is half of the 30-06 or less. For a new shooter who doesn't have the experience and training for recoil management and mitigation they can develop a pretty nasty flinch, especially in light weight rifles that are unbraked with heavy for caliber projectiles like you're mentioning. Same rifle lines from the same brands in the 2 calibers are usually a little bit lighter and around an inch shorter for the same barrel length. Someone doing some back country elk/deer hunt can appreciate the small weight savings and not getting hung up on branches as easily.
That's not to say 30-06 isn't a great all around cartridge option as it can be for the right person, but for most people some other options are probably just a bit better when all factors are considered. In my opinion, 30-06 is the right choice for someone who grew up shooting, has the fundamentals of marksmanship down, and only wants 1 rifle to do everything from pigs and deer to elk and bear while keeping the range under 450/500 yards assuming they're capable enough to make an ethical shot at that distance. If they're new, I generally advise them to pick a bullet diameter they like between 6.5, 7mm, and 30 cal, start with a short action rifle there and if they get to the point of needing to shoot further than that caliber is capable of with the skill to match, then pick a magnum in the same diameter.
Appreciate you watching... but 6.5 Creedmoor is a poor elk cartridge
No 400 yrd. elk gun.
Sticking to trusty old 270😂
30-06 for old timers and noobs asking old timers what to buy. Got the T-shirt.
My opinion 300wsm beter choice than 30-06.
I guess I'm an old timer...
Odd, i just rebarreled 1 .30-06, and have two other custom builds on my bench. Have never had a request for any PRC cartridges nor 6.5 Creedmore custom builds.
Did the same just before last deer season. Went from a PacNor to a Brux. As to PRC builds, the guys I use have already had to replace their 6.5, 7, and 300PRC reamers a few times each. May be a regional thing?
@@Accuracy1st I use strictly Pac Nor barrels with polygonal rifling, have for over 20 years. Yes, I think it is a regional thing but also a demographic thing with younger shooters who are unfamiliar with different chamberings.
Nice Video. 30-06 is not dead here in germany are more types of 30-06 ammo than for 308. I think over here it was never more popular than now.
Thanks for sharing
In life, add perspective, the 30-06 does not disappoint when it needs to be done! Good clarification thanks.
Thanks for watching
30-06 will always be the "If it ain't broke don't fix it" option for rifles and anyone doesn't believe it's a wise choice lives somewhere outside of reality. Or they don't use their rifles in any practical environment.
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Needed to be done!!
I watched his video and cringed.
Typical of his age group and indoctrination.
Testament to Hornadys advertising.
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@ReloadingWeatherby Good video Austin! 🤘🏼❤️🩹🙏🙏❤️🩹🤘🏼
Lol, every gun I've tried Outfitter CX hated it, literally 4-5 MOA
Same
I'm holding out for the Hornady 270 PRC.😂😂😂
I think you will be waiting a long time lol
I own a 06 in a savage 111 trophy hunter package gun with a scope something just cheap truck gun for me but shoots very very good, that other tuber made me laugh really hard im not even that old ( in my 30's) and i couldnt even take him serious and have to stop watching his vid half way, he clearly one of the newer shooters of today and he looks round my age and makes me cringe lol no no no no no......lol
I don't own a 30-06... but I have a lot of respect for it. Maybe one day I will.
@ReloadingWeatherby great for what it is I'd pick it over the 308 winchester if you want my opinion, especially since neither are all that great past 700 maybe 800 yards at max and even out to 7 and 800 I like how much more I can get from the 06, if you handload it especially in my gun it'll stack 150's for $400 gun it blows my mind
And it doesn't need your approval . Go back to the Weatherby
Rude
How did you know i was thinking hard about an '06??
I got the urge to get a BAR. I've never had a big bore semi, and i wanna try one. They have a great reputation for accuracy for hunting (ie, just a few rounds being shot). And with today's really good factory ammo, it could be an easy 400yd muley gun.
BAR Mark 2 Safari is fantastic. I love mine. Highly recommended…..
Do it
Mine in 06 shoots sub moa. Not a cheap gun but it gets it done
I'm looking into a 30-06, possibly a sako s20.
Good gun
There is nothing a 30-06 does better than many other cartridges out there. Even more so when you consider the vast majority of hunters will never shoot more than 200-250 yards. It is just another cartridge nothing special. Not saying it is a bad cartridge but it also isn't the best.
You literally could say that for any cartridge. There is always a better cartridge
@@ReloadingWeatherby 100%...it was more a comment to all the guys in the comments crowning it the best cartridge ever and the king of cartridges.
yep
Your not in the mix, if you don't have a 30-06.
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For new shooter, 308win 165tgk or 168ablr is plenty for elk. Not like they’re gonna shoot past 300yrds.
With so much 30-06 load data available, it's pretty simple to work up loads. I recently worked up a load for my Savage 116 Euro Classic, using Ramshot Big Game powder and 165 Grand Slam at 2,825 fps with sub-MOA accuracy and no signs of over pressure. Even though I stopped where I did because I was happy with the accuracy and velocity, it did appear that possibly velocity could be expanded beyond that point. My barrel is only 22 inches, but it seemed like I left a little more velocity in reserve which is fine. I would rather hit my mark and not be stressing the rifle.
Lol get a dirty 3006,,how many do i need i already have 3 of them,,two old early 60 weatherby deluxe guns and a Remington 7400 i got brand new in 1987,,,yup i guess i need to get a ruger #1 now so i can really hot rod the dirty 3006
30-06 speaks for itself. You can also find it in semi automatic platforms that are still very accurate and shoot smoother than a 10lb .308 bolt gun
Those that have one, Won't swap it for something else. New buyers are looking at the new pretty girl on the block. Using the right powder it'l match old 300 WM (Data) performance. There isn't game in America that can't be taken with the 30-06 out to 500 yds
30-06 is awesome. Got an old 1971 Ruger M77 that still works great.
The thing is that the 30-06 can do everything and is very efficient, but it is tremendously boring and does not have the glamour and marketing of the new calibers... but even so it is still an all-rounder for hunting all over the world....
Generational hunters know how good to aught six is. The only reason for people to buy the new cartridges is bullet companies squeeze you on ammo!
The video he made was made for new hunters/gun owners who presumably have no reloading experience so he recommended cartridges that are more efficient and to shoot heavy bullets rather than recommend a cartridge that has to have a custom twist barrel and a long throat to efficiently shoot the heavy bullets. The 30-06 is a great cartridge but not everyone has the time and money to do load development, and get a custom barrel to get the same performance you could get out of something else in a factory configuration
You don't need a custom rifle in 30-06 to shoot the same factory ammo the 300 PRC shoots. A 1in10 twist barrel with be good up to 230 gr bullets.
@@ReloadingWeatherby but you have to reload those bullets to be able to shoot them in a 30-06. There are not factory options in the 212 grain range, there are only two options for the 220 grain range one from federal and one from Remington. So you can’t get the same performance without reloading