The Truth about SPF Moisturizers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- SPF moisturizers promise a no-hassle way to get that extra sun-protecting health boost. There is some intuitive sense to adding this into your skincare routine, but... do you really need it?
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Hey guys, just a lil reminder to everyone that according to pretty much all dermatologists, daily sunscreen application is totally necessary. If you’ve got anything to share, we would love to have you add to the conversation down in the comments below! ♥Sher
It isn't totally necessary. In fact sometimes it will hurt you more than anything. Naturally darkened under the sun will in the end protect you and if you really are under the sun that you need protection you have stayed under the sun for to long anyway. Now is it helpful sure, but it is not needed. It depends on how you want your skin to look. Fair skin and without blemishes then yes sun screen is needed. But I noticed that for example I have worked with my hands and even gone barefoot for a lot of time my skin has built up a rougher amount of skin not pretty but I have been able to not get injured while others doing the same thing get injured. I noticed the same thing a lot of people who use sun screen if they don't use it get worse sun burns so I think you are hurting yourself because you then become dependent on the products
@@lostboy8084 Nooo please nooo, even the darkest skin tone reachs only an spf of 13, the recommended spf is at least 30, if not 50+.
@@thedolcetto81 I really don't know much about it but I base it on personal experience having never worn sun screen living on a tropical island with white skin that has become browner due to sun exposure. I seen those who use sun screen who if they forget or miss a place get badly sun burned while I have no problem. I feel that we should have the ability to adjust as humans are very adaptable. Now this is just for normal and not long extended exposure to the sun. Especially if at the beach you should wear sun screen. But for every day use I think it is over kill. If you feel like you need it then I say go ahead but myself I still think that putting chemicals or oils on your skin seems to be worse maybe if a natural sun screen made from plants don't know if any.
@@thedolcetto81 Subscribed to you for honestly replying to my comment.
Thank you @@lostboy8084 for you nice and polite reply, research has showed that every skin tone should wear sunscreen because unfortunately dark skin tones cannot block all UV rays. I'm honestly not an expert so I don't want to give out inaccurate information; what I understand following several dermatologists, toxicologists and chemists is that sunburns are not as noticeable on darker skin, therefore people don't get out of the sun early enough, and dermatologist are in general worse trained to detect skin abnormalities on darker tones.
As someone mentioned in other comments, the best sunscreen is the one that people like to wear and reapply. Chemical sunscreen have the advantage that, in general, don't leave a white cast, therefore people with darker skin tone may find them more pleasing to wear, and they will keep apply them. Depending on the country, several filters can be available. For instance Korean and Japanese sunscreens are formulated with state-of-the-art filters that make them light and pleasant to wear. They are not recommended for intense activities though (they are not waterproof). Are they safe to wear? Many researchers will tell you yes, since many test have been done, and there are rigorous regulations to be followed when releasing a new sunscreen.
Even though it's true that humans are very adaptable, my wild guess is that in the past people (of all ethnicities) tended to stay out of the sun. But I can't be 100% sure.
This video seemed very iffy to me, and honestly could do more harm than good. The tone of the discussion, talking as if sunscreen is just another trendy skincare and discussing if people should use it or not was quite careless. You needed to do a thorough research instead of taking all the common misconceptions about sunscreen and finding evidence to support that. I'm a scientist and EWG is not reliable at all. They lean so much into "clean", "non-toxic" bs (it's all a fad). I'm not an expert in sunscreen but from what I know from toxicologist and chemist friends who formulate sunscreen is that:
1. People of ALL skin TONES SHOULD apply sunscreen. Framing that as a question is very irresponsible behavior.
2. BOTH CHEMICAL and MINERAL sunscreens get absorbed into your skin. That's how skincare works. Chemical sunscreens aren't some scary thing waiting to kill you. Chemical sunscreens negatively affecting coral reefs is not correct in the concentrations they exist in our water rn and distracts from the actual truth of other pollutions occuring in our oceans.
Michelle is a chemistry PhD and cosmetic chemist, and her videos are based on the correct, existing science. The viewers can check out her sunscreen playlist for actual information on sunscreen. th-cam.com/play/PLbpMGOFlpHNA1G35ggBDgO-XZK6lamZj3.html
And to the FPH team: when making videos about health, you cannot take it lightly. I don't think you guys want to harm your viewers' wellbeing but you have to be responsible in finding out correct information. Consult actual experts for each video; making videos about health only by looking up information on the internet is not a responsible way of doing this. Anyone can look up some articles and make a video. People's health isn't something as trivial as "why Patagonia is popular" and your channel HAS to reflect that.
I had my concerns about FPH since its announcement because I knew how the original FP channel lacked a lot of depth and nuance in its videos and I worried this would carry on to this channel. I am not hating on any of you, this is all just constructive criticism; please take it and work on it because your videos can have an irreversible impact on your viewers' health.
yes! totally agree, i felt uneasy the whole time
I'm so glad you mentioned Michelle, who I started following last year when I got into skincare to better look after my skin.
Her content is great, offering information backed by researches and papers and debunking misconceptions/myths.
but all they said was like maybe it is better to wear spf than moistrizer with spf. They did not say anything like SPF is not necessary.
to be honest, i agree with you that health is not a light topic like why patagonia is so popular but i think they were not getting out of line in this video.
Thanks for mentioning Lab Muffin! I was a little iffy about this video too and went straight to her videos for more information. I loved the amount of research and explaining why in her vids! "The best sunscreen to use is the one that you enjoy using that's also affordable to you". Thanks again for posting about her -- I've learned so much!
1. EWG is not a reliable source of information on ingredients for cosmetics. You should do a video on their dodgy ratings. Try a more credible source like the SCCS or Cosmetic ingredient review. 2. Mineral reflect and chemical absorb is outdated info. Mineral sunscreens can absorb UV too. A good sunscreen will be a hybrid of the two. 3. You can still get your precious vitamin D through sunscreen since it often protects less than 99%. And also there are safer ways to get vit. D. 4. US made sunscreens are not cosmetically elegant since newer UV filters have not been approved for many years. You can see the difference between 2 identical products sold in the US and in Europe or Asia. 5. The best sunscreen is the one you will use consistently. 👨🏻🔬
What are the safer ways to get vitamin D? Bc if it’s supplements, they’re barely effective 😬
@@deeeno6867 there are plenty of areas on your skin that are often missed by spf or may not be as much of a concern for short-term exposure (e.g., scalp, hands and feet). It can also get through your clothes if they're not made of a UPF material. You can protect the most exposed and vulnerable parts of your skin like face, neck, chest, etc. without compromising vitamin D levels. Also, many scientific studies have shown that daily spf use does not prevent the average person from getting their daily dose of vitamin D.
Agreed with everything here. I buy my sunscreen outside of the US and I take vitamin D supplements because I am mostly indoors.
This!!! 100% agree. Thank you for saying it. Someone had to lol.
I would really like to see a video on the impacts on coral reefs from sunscreen, big topic in the conservation world!
It’s on our list 😊 Thanks for watching and sharing your interest! ♥️Sher
@@FutureProofHealth all sunscreen is bad for coral reefs, there is no such thing as coral reef safe sunscreens
Michelle Lab Muffin has a video on this :)
I'd be surprised if people actually apply every 2 hours on a regular basis as directed
If you're out and about in the sun, you should definitely reapply. If you're just sitting indoors, I don't think reapplication is necessary.
I always try to reapply my sunscreen every two hours because I have severe sunlight sensitivity.
Regardless of all of this, SPF is super duper important, and applying it at least once a day helps a lot! Chemical sunscreens are great for people with darker tones too
Any Korean brand sunscreen. Feels comfortable on ur skin n some just feel nice like moisturizer
UVA: Ageing, UVB: Burning
You might not feel your skin is hot burning but your skin is still taking in lots of UVA rays.
That's why I put on sunscreen every day. I only wish I had started in my 20s.
Mineral sunscreen: good for sensitive skin but comes with a white cast that defers people from using it (I myself cannot stand it)
Chemical sunscreen: sheer, elegant on skin. There has been NO evidence showing it is worse/better than mineral suncreen
--> Conclusion: Find the type that suits your skin so you will more likely use it on a regular basis. It is all about consistent protection.
*The dose makes the poison.
Instead of being skeptical of chemical or hybrid suncreen, I'd worry more about the proven fact that UV rays damage skin.
The right amount to apply sunscreen: TWO WHOLE finger lengths
Yes, you read that right. Most people do not use enough sunscreen to achieve the claimed protection on the package. You need to use this much because that is the amount used in the lab to test the efficacy of a sunscreen product.
A few notes: Both Mineral and Chemical sunscreens can be absorbed into the blood. They both have been proven to absorb UV. Although physical sunscreens do scatter some UV its a small percentage. Also most newer sunscreens have moisturizing ingredients in them, meaning you can apply it the recommended way (2 fingers) and still have adequate moisture and sun protection. Bonus. Most physical sunscreens aren’t totally reef safe.
all the same points I was thinking while watching. anything you put on your face will be absorbed into the skin, though may not penetrate deeper layers. i mean, thats why the skin condition contact dermatitis exists. furthermore, zinc oxide sunscreens do get absorbed into skin, as zinc oxide applied topically does decrease inflammation, hence why it's on the FDA monograph as a a skin protectant. quite honestly, the research for this video was subpar. I'm glad you know what's up.
@@jameshardensfatsuit5726 good to get a kind reply on youtube! good points here too. You must have great skin lol
Lab Muffin Beauty Science has explained in several video that the research done to see the effect of sunscreen on coral reef is highly flawed and biased. I recommend to her playlist on sunscreen
Michelle and Dr Dray have debunked the concerns for chemical sunscreens, so I don’t think it’s healthy to add the misinformation (EWG is not a credible source) into the conversation
Totally agree!
DEEPKY appreciate the nuanced and practical takes from this channel. I only wear sunscreen on summer days when I'm going out for a walk or to the beach, even though I know I should wear it more often. Part of the reason for that is the texture and application of face sunscreens I've tried, so I had just decided a few days ago that I would explore SPF moisturizers as a potential way to increase days where I'm protected from the sun - which is why this video is so well-timed for me, as I hadn't yet purchased anything. Now I can go forth more well-informed and take care to avoid some mistakes I might have otherwise made :D
The FDA is extremely behind when it comes to SPF regulations. There are newer SPF ingredients that are approved worldwide, including the EU and Australia, that are still not approved in the USA. There are so many sunscreens nowadays that are very elegant and as comfortable to wear as a moisturizer. If the texture and smell of sunscreens put you off, I would recommend looking at sunscreens from abroad. Korean and Japaneae sunscreens are extremely popular for their high SPF and broad spectrum protection, as well as their elegant textures.
I like to watch Future Proof Health videos, because I like how you present the information and because you are a nice person.
video was an interesting watch! i came across a lot of similar information when doing a deep dive in sunscreen last year (wanted sunscreen that was good for sensitive skin). also, i have an idea for a future video: face serums!
Lol, my general rule: If an influencer is peddling it, I ain't buying it.
That's a good rule
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Unless, of course, Levi or Leah was peddling it. 😏
uhh that would work in most cases
Don't avoid the chemical sunscreen, usually both mineral and chemical, most of them are trully safe and well tested.
Here in europe the law is hard and dangerous chemicals are banned (i can't say for US). That's when we are using both that we can cover most of the UVs.
as someone who has entered the skincare game since August 2022, this video about sunscreen is a very interesting topic for me. thanks for making this! < 3
You'd probably like Michelle from Lab Muffin Beauty Science if you haven't come across her already. She's a scientist and makes videos about skincare, especially sunscreen
Second on Lab Muffin. She’s the sunscreen guru
Love the expert advice of reapplying sunscreen every 2 hours....it's so practical and attainable for the average person. 😂
especially the mineral one so you can look like Mark Zuckerberg on a Jetski for the whole day even indoors
I mean, it comes down to chemistry… we just haven’t invented sunscreen that is effective for longer. It’s not anyone’s fault lol
TH-cam channel Physics Girl has a fun video showing how sunscreen blocks light and the negligible difference between SPF 30 and 50. I would have liked a deeper explanation between chemical and mineral sunscreen, like why we assume mineral is safer, and links to studies cited.
Agree, also great SPF video by @physicsgirl and als @veritasium. I wish that videography equipment was more accessible (like, for me). Also wishing Dianna a speedy recovery. I think she'd like this new FutureProof channel
I have worn SPF moisturizer (broad spectrum as soon as they figured out it needed to be added) everyday since I was 20. At 59 I still have few wrinkles, no age spots, and am regularly placed 10-12 years younger than I am. Consistency is the key.
I did a bunch of reading up on the whole vitamin D vs sunscreen thing just last week, and what I read on most sources is that getting 15 mins of sun exposure 3-5 times per week will give you enough vitamin D. The rest of the time you should wear sunscreen!
Hey... I'm using a hybrid sunscreen. I researched and decided to go with hybrid (mineral+chemical sunscreen). Took a day for my skin to adjust to it, I thought I wouldn't but it was faster than I thought. Just remember to double cleanse... I do it whether I go to sleep or, if I forgot, before applying sunscreen again. I also learn the ingredients, turns out beeswax is an ingredient in some sunscreens I used to like. This time, I had to get one without bee products... I'm someone who doesn't really cover their face or shade myself so I thought sunscreen was a great way (but I found out I still have to wear other stuff like sunglasses and head covers)... I just have to not forget to bring one when I'm out.
Also, you didn't mention any historical background for sunscreen use.. I was hoping for that tbh (coz I already know the basics).
I get the thing about the numbers, I learned more about those here.. dermatologists don't really explain much about those, and I also didn't think much about it.
At first, I was confused why SPF came first then moisturizer because moisturizing sunscreens are what I hear more often. But if that's the case, then the argument makes sense. "Moisturizers that have sunscreen in it are not sunscreens" - I think I've heard this before. Yes! Just don't remember where anymore coz I focus on moisturizing sunscreens. My problem with that? I haven't found a good ingredient list for me...I'm super sensitive to leave-on products, especially around my eyes so I avoid those with perfume, abrasives, and my ethics on bee products.
Future Proof Health (along with the main channel) really needs to hire a better research team.
Every year my dermatologist reminds me to wear sunscreen every day, and this past year suggested SPF 50. The appeal of the SPF moisturizers is real. Have you ever tried a mineral SPF 50 sunscreen? I’m pretty pale and they make me look like Casper and have the weirdest texture. Every. Single. One. Recommendations welcome!
Every single dermatologist on YT says the same thing. Sunscreen first before any other skincare products.
You should look into Korean sunscreens most of which are chemical sunscreens using the latest ingredients that have not been approved by USFDA. The formula is beautiful and comestically elegant.
*to clarify, by 'sunscreen first before any other skincare products', I did not mean to apply sunscreen as the first step of your skincare routine(who would do that anyway?), I meant using sunscreen is the most important step that should not be skipped.
@@Apero1Spritz I was about to suggest the same thing. Look into Korean sunscreens, they are much better formulated than those available in the US.
Very interesting. I live in Florida and keep trying to use "daily" SPF moisturizers, but they really muck up my skin in addition to not really being super effective. Do you know of good, effective, skin-friendly SPF products (in addition to physical protections) that are independent from moisturers, especially for face? OR--hear me out--how do we get sun visors and face shields to make a societal comeback? Isn't a good hat or buff worth at least 10 bottles of expensive cream stuff?
Hey there! My dermatologist always suggests European skincare products, because of the higher regulations & generally more transparent ingredients.
Check French skincare or french pharmacy videos on YT, lots of really good products.
Love Sheng Wang. I'd buy his sunscreen.
Sher, I'd like to see you make a video about the health benefits of wine. 😀
How much do hats really help? I wear a wide brim hat and sunscreen, working outside for 2-4 hours a day, and sometimes I feel like i have a mild sunburn. I know that different fabrics, and even colours have different sun protection
I don't wear sunscreen, and I can tell you sunburns are a thing on overcast days and in winter. :)
winter sunburns suck so much. :)
I got into the skin care game around 2018 and after a lot of tries and errors toner moisturiser sunscreen and sometimes eye cream is what i follow but due to many reasons i just want to try and stop doing my skin care just face wash and sunscreen.
Make video on Hairfall & whole market around it
I literally just bought some of this stuff haha
Darn, as someone on the spectrum, I have a lot of sensory related issues surrounding skincare products.
So if I’m only in the sun 20 minutes a day do I need sun protection?
Can you do one on multi vitamins?
We'll put that on the list!
Watching this video everyday until I remembr to put sunscreen
I think sun-screen is very much a first world thing
Might I also add unnecessary?
We call it sun cream in the UK.
yummy 🙊
@@FutureProofHealth we don't eat it 😂
Not me putting on my SPF moisturizer as I see this video recommended to me
Lol 😂 Did you get your eyelids?? Thanks for joining us here ♥️Sher
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Dude I just bought spf moisturizer today 😅
does sunscreen have a shelf life?
Yes. Mine always has a best before date
@@verycherryberry3752 That doesn't necessarily reflect actual shelf life. Lots of things that never really expire or don't for a long time have short "sell/use by" dates on them. It's because they want you to buy another of their product, not necessarily that it actually went bad.
It probably degrades over time and becomes less effective, but I'm willing to bet it is a much longer time period than the bottle states.
I've started to notice clothing claiming to have uv protection.
Is this just empty marketing?
You ever gotten a sunburn under your shirt outside?
@@omgness1234 nop
@@Milanor then why do you need a special shirt? LOL
Big fan of mineral sunscreens. Never wanted to lube myself in chemicals
minerals are still chemicals. don't fall for the fearmongering and inform yourself.
I think the intent behind this video is good, but the potential to spread misinformation is not. The overall “should we or shouldn’t we” tone of this video is harmful. It makes people think that there is no concrete evidence on this topic and perpetuates the misinformation of groups like the EWG. Maybe consider bringing in an outside source like Dr. Dray or Michelle from LabMuffin next time.
Yeah I’m all for sunscreen and it’s many benefits, but if we’re supposed to apply it liberally multiple times a day- why’s it not sold in vats, seriously tho😂?! Plus my trusted isntree one has gone up from £17 to £30 how the hell am I supposed to apply enough daily without burning through multiple tubes each month?! And that’s just using it on my face and neck alone. Yeah I could use those big greasy garnier bottles on my face, but if that sweats into your eyes you look like you’ve been pepper sprayed. And don’t even get me started on these expensive spf powders to reapply over makeup, where does this end?!
This is a great point, good sunscreen that one can wear and reapply all day without feeling like an Italian focaccia is still too expensive. It should be available to everyone.
idk about anyone else but I'm okay accepting the risk of going outside and doing normal human things, I don't really need sunscreen in my life when all it does for me is get oily and wash off as soon as I start sweating
and reapplying every 2 hours? look, I have other, more pleasant things to do with my time, melanoma risk be damned
Myself I think sun screen would do more harm than anything else. People will naturally adapt to their sun exposure but they now use products and become dependent on them. Now this isn't to say that they are bad and don't work. If you want a softer and fair skin or if you will be under the sun for a long time then use it to prevent sun burn and skin damage. But I used to get sun burned a lot, but afterwards I adapted got darker and less sun burn. But that is me you do you.
Your skin and body will not adapt to the degrading effects of the UV rays. Just because you don't burn doesn't mean the rays aren't affecting you. This is a HIGE contributor to aging, but aesthetically and internally. People in the past weren't "adapted to the sun's rays", they simply didn't have the understanding of the damage over time. Sunlight is important, but being fully exposed is factually dangerous.
You should probs get a doctor on this show if you want actually credibility
I thought the logo was tooth paste 🥲😅 idk why. It’s just what I saw 😭