@@ExtraThiccc I don't know who is "you people" or where are you sourcing your information but processed foods are not banned in the EU. People may compare some other social benefits or regulations compared to the US because of how bad or unregulated some things are over there.
The toxins potential due to lack of regulations was news to me. But it was also great to realize I can check if brands 3rd party test. Hadn't even thought of that with protein powder. Also surprised there was not much mention of vegan proteins as there's a large market there as well.
Plant proteins are toxic and a joke. I would never consume. Plants themselves are full of toxins, GMO's and lectins along with grown in depleted soil. No good comes from plant anything. We are carnivores by design 😂 not rabbits.
Yep. Drinking my protein drink as well as I watch this video. Good broad overview while keeping it simple and short. Everything should be used in moderation. Proteins drinks can help boost immune system before and after surgery, help with recovery while working out, et al but should never be primary food source. They are also a good source for protein while backpacking to keep pack weight down. But not all protein supplements are equal or cover every situation. Some are meant for meal replacement while others are kept lean for cutting calories. While others are meant to help with weight gain. Great video overall.
I use protein powders because I'm getting older and as you age your body gets worse at processing protein making it easy to lose muscle. Once you lose the muscle it's a lot harder to get it back. It's hard to eat more protein, so adding protein powder helps. Research your powders though and know whats in them.
I use protein powder to achieve my daily protein needs. I don't eat enough volume in general to reach those needs. So a protein supplement greatly helps me in my goals. However, it's very important to do research on who you buy your protein from.
the comparison between real food and protein powder doesn't make a lot of sense, most people consume protein powder *on top of* regular protein, not as a replacement. usually because it's too expensive and/or too caloric to source that protein from food
My job has been flagging people through drug tests for steroids, artificial hormones and other stuff that would get an athlete banned. Most (but not all) were from people using workout powders from GNC, so maybe avoid GNC as they may be putting performance enhancing drugs in their products without listing them on the label.
I have always struggled to eat enough and I use protein powders on and off to help me get nutrients in. Currently I’m using plain pea protein powder with no additives whatsoever (or so they say, I’m not sure if it’s regulated in my country) so I feel reasonably safe about it
I do the same. I am a post menopausal woman who has pre- osteoporosis with a number of autoimmune diseases. My rheumatologist has told me I need to take increase my protein. I have a very good diet but cannot get enough protein without this supplement. I use a pea protein and mix it with almond milk.
As a certified dietitian I can say that not only some plants contain all AA (quinoa, quorn…) but, what is more important, is that your body does not care! It is not that proteins are made after each meal and then your body dumps what it didn’t use. The body is capable of having a 'stock' of AA for some time and make complete proteins with them later on. If you eat chickpeas for lunch and tofu at night for example (which also comes from a legume but with different AA profile) your body will use the AAs from both sources to make protein. A well planned plant-based diet can perfectly fulfill protein needs. Please be careful with this information.
@@saith2254 well only in the sense that it's hard to have a complete diet with a vegetarian or vegan diet. It's entirely possible, but you have to do some research and maybe see a nutritionist to be sure you aren't missing or getting too little of some nutrients. There are plenty of vegan bodybuilders, so it's completely possible.
@Saith Protein is much less important when bulking, and it's fairly simple to get enough protein on a plant-based diet. Eating enough calories only gets tough if you stick to 100% whole foods, and primarily vegetables. But eating calorie dense foods like rice, potatoes, pastas, breads, nuts/seeds, tofu, seitan, and some processed plant Meats will help hit your calorie needs.
@@FutureProofHealth could be an interesting video idea 👀 Some of the ingredient comparisons of fast food makes for interesting reading. - McDonald's Fries - UK: Potatoes, Rapeseed oil, Dextrose and salt. USA: Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (canola Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [wheat And Milk Derivatives]*), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (maintain Color), Salt. *natural Beef Flavor Contains Hydrolyzed Wheat And Hydrolyzed Milk. 😅😅😅
I really like this channel and this was a good topic to cover. So no hate intended but the vidieo just kinda felt a little weak. "The Powders could be this or they could be that. They might be healthy or perhaps just straight up poison!" I'm glad you are being careful with the information you are putting out into the world but there didn't really seem to be a point to this video!
I think they’re being careful about making categorical statements, which I think is sensible. However, it is not as if there is a lot of rock proof science about this topic 😂
you're the best informers of the whole world! I always wanted to know more about protein powders after I started to suffer from digestive issues while I was consuming then, it was shocking to me cause I just heard wonders about them and their benefits, and I denied it was because of them in the first place, I blamed oats and nuts but as I quit on powders I started getting healthier and it was pretty weird that in my research for better health, I started to get sick and suffer digestive issues when I've never had them before. Thank you so much for this, you are the best!
Ehhh, this video missed the mark. Most people who are using protein powders are people who are athletes or those trying to build muscle, and it’s not always realistic to get all the protein needed at the most optimum times in whole food form. I realize this was stated, but it was only mentioned briefly at the end, when it reality that’s the majority of people using the stuff. Another issue is that it was only glossed over at the very end that to avoid all the nasty additives they brought to light is to look for third party certifications. This was a super basic and watered down 12 minute video that only included about 2 minutes of useful information. A more beneficial approach to discussing this topic would have been to talk about if people trying to build muscle may (or may not) benefit from protein powders, and how the average Joe likely doesn’t need it. Definitely should have spent more time on showing how to actually go about finding the high quality powders, what those test labs are checking for, and if there are concerns beyond what they test for that people should still be on the lookout for.
Hey Sher! Great video as usual :) While they sound similar, I’d be interested to know more about “pre-workouts” since they’re distinctly marketed differently and seemingly have different purposes
“Leshooooms”? Hehe….that made me chuckle:) I lift weights every day, and aim to get in about 0.8grams of protein per pound of body weight. I use whey protein and plant based protein to make it happen. There’s nothing fancy about it, and it’s not even really a “supplement”. It’s just food. Another source of protein that saves you from having to eat something else. Although I suppose I have to cross my fingers and hope the ingredients are what they say on the packaging!
True. I think we know enough about whey and doesn't call for more studies. It's the other stuff they put in, yes, but there are lots of whey products that are straight forward and simple enough. Also artificial sweeteners are bad (according to the diet coke video) because you tend to eat more, but most take whey to gain mass and not to lose weight.
Same. don't need fancy flavors (use real fruit for your flavoring), don't need color additives, don't need preservatives or anti-caking additives... Simple whey protein isolate. It just works.
when I playing ball in college.., I did a lot protein powder.. then took a good break for a while.., I recently starting using them again.., as life is busier than ever. but definitely.., did is always better than a powder. Great episode.
Great video! Good and balanced take on protein powders, no-bs facts and who might or might not need them! Although the "non-GMO" at the end was a little puzzling. Hasn't it already been scientifically verified through exhaustive studies that GMO foods are safe, or in some cases safer, than "non-GMO" and organic foods? Genuinely puzzled and maybe new information has come to light that I've not read up on yet.
I drink half a scoop of protein shake after gym as recommended by my nutritionist because I need to gain weight and drinking calories help, as it doesn't saciate you as much. I also don't like most protein rich food very much, so it also helps me to eat enough protein
Best Grass-Fed Whey Protein Concentrate = Nutricost Ingredients: grass-fed whey protein concentrate, sunflower lecithin, cocoa powder, natural flavors, sodium chloride, stevia It’s got fairly clean ingredients, and comes from grass fed cows. It tastes great, and mixes well (I use whole “grass milk”). edit: it’s third party tested I can’t eat enough protein for my needs, and need to supplement at least once a day with a shake. I try to limit the garbage, and my diet is SUPER CLEAN.
Undogmatic and balanced examination of protein powder. One thing for me is that I hardly eat (once a day) so protein powder helped me a bit to make feel "full" . One thing I recommend is that research anything you are going to buy. Especialy something that goes into your body.
Folks over 55 are recommended to add protein supplement. I think it was to help prevent muscle loss, which accelerates as we age. If you try to get the recommended amount of protein just from food, you’ll probably intake too many calories.
Always a non dogmatic balanced take, very enjoyable and informative. I do the powder, but it's a one or two ingredient thing and not a proprietary blend which are often scams. I figure that's good enough and so far I'm getting results in the weight room so I'll keep getting after it.
I never assumed protein powder was better than having protein I didn’t think anyone did? It simply bridges the gap in your haven’t eaten enough protein in a given day
They are my protein heavy snack maybe 2-4x a week. I like them when I try to eat less animal proteins (I use a vegan protein powder), and especially when I eat vegetarian. Like I’m going out for a pancake breakfast and know that’s not a protein heavy meal, so I make a smoothie. But it does not feel like a meal for me. Maybe I should start making my own protein powder?
I saw a video from a veteran trainer (sadly, do not remember his name) some time ago, which made a lot of sense to me. In short, what he said was the because of the fact, that the powder is processed, you have 2 negative affects to ingesting it, that people are usually not aware of: 1. It actually has higher energy value, that what's written. This is actually true for anything processed: the way calories are measured do not attribute to how much energy our body uses in order to consume the food. Whole meals will force your body to exert more energy in order to digest them, but since processed foods are already kind of digested, you body may not need to exert as much energy, if any at all. This is the idea that some other specialists, including dieticians, started sharing recently. Like, if you eat raw celery you get "negative calories", but if you boil it, because the fiber and other stuff will break from the heat, it will be easier to digest and the calories from the same celery may increase even tenfold (depends on the way you cook it). 2. Powder gives you lots of protein at once, and that may mean that some of it will not be ingested at all and will be secreted by your body. This one does not have any definite proof, because studies seem to provide conflicting evidence, but the idea is that there is a limit of how much protein (and any other element really) can be fully processed in a given period of time. Average protein powder has 30g of protein per portion. Since it already processed it will not be staying in your gut for very long, thus your body will have less time to process those 30g and instead process, say 15g. Meaning, that the other half will be wasted. There is nothing definitive saying what is the upper limit and if there is one, but it may be because of "it depends". Once I hear about these 2 points and thought about them logically, I decided to no longer waste my money on these powders, because it may help me gain weight, instead of losing it, and I may be just flushing my money down the toiler. Literally. Also, Sher, this time you look quite blurry. As if there is a bloom effect on the video.
Look for "USDA Organic" or "Informed Choice" stickers on your protein powder, those labels mean the product is regularly tested and meets a certain level of purity and quality that goes above and beyond the normal food standards.
There's no mention on the application of powders. All powders if they are even close to majorly protein will suck in a shake but can be cooked with, sometimes even baked with. I have pre-mixed rice and pea protein, and the best way to make it palatable is by mixing it with rice and beans, or other dishes. Seeing how often I'm short on cash, this helps me stretch my dollar more by eating less but still getting at least the proteins I need. Any leftover money can be spent on fruits or rarely even saved up.
´´Regular´´ people drinking protein powders must be a new US trend. Here in Europe it´s still a niche food for bodybuilders, athletes and for weight loss. Health conscious people tend to avoid it. When i first started drinking, i had to explain to my parents and inlaws how it´s different from anabolic steroids :D I still drink it though because it tastes amazing. I cleaned up my diet and started exercising, but still have a horrible sweet tooth, so i have protein shakes once or twice a day instead of regular sweets and snacks. It worked great so far, lost almost 20 kilos and counting. As it states on every label: it is a supplement, it´s not supposed to replace your diet, just enhance it. I found a local brand that has third party certification, and buy from them. They even offer and unflavored, unsweetened form of whey that one can flavor themselves for example with stevia and cinnamon or cocoa powder, but i haven´t tried that approach yet.
I really loved the video and the explication but i would beg to differ about all plant based protein being incomplet. If I only eat vegetables on the day i would not get all my Amino acids, but realistically I would eat a variety of plant based foods like beans, tofu, Tempeh, vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds, etc.
I use a product that contains only whey protein powder and lecithin. I blend it with 1% 🥛 milk and sometimes add fruit. Simple, quick, and easily portable in a screwcap bottle. Without the additives and advertising the price of the 10 pound bag is very reasonable.
I've assumed that protein powder with multiple ingredients are more toxic but less nutritious than good food, and powders with 2 ingredients are less nutritious but not toxic. This stuff's main benefit is ease of consumption.
It's hard for me not to see this as confirmation bias, but I have always been very suspect of protein powders. I'm sure there could be benefits to them, but the a large portion North American diet eats so much meat I wonder how necessary it is. In the end, I'm sure it's the case that it each individual needs to do what works for them but I've tried protein powder and it's always just felt like I was adding artificial sweeteners to my post workout smoothies
Depends on your protein/body needs. Powders differ in their usage. Some are mass gainers while other are leaner meant for macro counting. Some are meal replacements while others are meant for recovery. Protein shakes definitely can help in the elderly who do not have an appetite drive. Really depends on if you can eat enough protein. Some people don't so supplementing helps them. If you are on a high protein diet, 150+g per day, it can be difficult and time consuming chewing that much. There is no solid one answer fits every person in every situation.
I lift weights 4 times a week and try to get about 140-170 grams of protein in a day……. It’s hard to actually eat that much protein, so drinking it helps
If you are interested in learning more about this subject, you should listen to Peter Attia. It won’t be a 12 minute video but these subjects require time.
I'd rather eat my protein, satiation last longer. But some days still got 15g of protein left in my macros so the convenience of just throwing a scoop or two. If taste too good, read the ingredients and probably has loads of either sugar or garbage stuff.
If you have weight loss surgery they’ll tell you to use protein powder. Problem is if it gets too hot (in hot drinks or soups) it clumps and gets gross. Or you can drink endless cold shakes which, if they’re made from powder at home, tend to say you need to drink them within 10-15 minutes for best results, which is hard in a tiny stomach pouch. And it’s tiresome having endless sweet drinks. Don’t get me started on clear liquid diet compliant protein drinks like Gatorade with protein. Also gross.
It’s a mistake to think all proteins are equal. I agree we should eat whole foods and start with a base of health formed with strong culinary talent. Don’t however believe pea protein is equivalent to any meat protein. Most non meat protein either aren’t complete or are poorly utilised compared to meat. Some are only 50% as effective. This ain’t a justification for whey at all. Just meat and dairy in general. Easily my biggest problem with protein powder is the lack of heavy metal and contaminants 3rd party testing not being standardized.
Clean Label Project looks kinda shady with marketing some protein made in India as one of the best on their website... I don't think India has the strictest regulation for food industry
Small correction protein "completeness" is a myth. All protein sources have all of the essential amino acids just in varying amounts and it's very easy to get them on a vegan diet especially if you eat a lot of whole foods. In fact the only source of protein that doesn't have all of the essential amino acids is gelatin which comes from animals
i believe this is caled SUPLEMENT for a reason... (Suplement: add an extra element or amount to.) so if this is used ALONG with a good/health diet is very positive! Also due to the PRICE of animal protein is getting very very EXPENSIVE! However the rest of the info is very very good when considering the sh$% they put in!
If you didn’t learn whey is made from dairy in elementary then I feel like you’re probably not American because I’ve known “curds and whey” were dairy products ever since Little Miss Muffet informed me they exist
I’ve come to notice something about the videos this channel does relating to the fitness industry - it is very clear that the writers do not take part in sports or exercise. No one thinks protein shakes are the only source of protein a person should consume. They did a video on the main channel talking about how sugary sports drinks are and how athletic people should hydrate with just water. They clearly don’t understand that sugar is extremely beneficial when doing exhausting endurance sports, like bike riding, so you don’t bonk and pass out. I would take this channel seriously if they actually had writers who knew from firsthand experience what they are talking about.
Dang I've really been trying to give this channel more opportunities to redeem itself, but the subtly misleading info is getting a bit frustrating 😅 I understand trying to be skeptical and get every possible angle, but these videos aren't that helpful if they just do surface-level research and just mention every possible controversial opinion. For example, using phrases like "toxic contaminants" makes it sound like you're being poisoned by protein powder, when in reality toxicity is purely dependent on dosage. Anything can be toxic if you eat enough of it. You could say spinach is toxic, but that means nothing because you'd have to give a quantity to give it meaning. Nearly every food has some sort of bad-sounding contaminant, that doesn't necessarily make it dangerous. Sorry if this came off rude, it's just that some of these topics are something I have a lot of experience with so it's difficult to see them misrepresented and I don't want people getting the wrong ideas! Still giving some useful info for people with no exerience on these topics, but I don't think it's helpful to only provide this somewhat shallow skepticism to everything discussed and have "Proof" in your channel name lol. Best of luck 👍🏼
Completely agree. Also would like to know what % of their audience is from the US - as all of the information here relates to the US. In the UK, protein power is considered and regulated as a food, ain’t no way that BPA thing has legs internationally.
I am always so entertained by the fact that people think that vegan people don’t eat any protein😂😂😂😂 And they are so surprised that some plants have protein too😂 Like protein is this magical thing only animals can produce😊
You will get WAY more out of your protein eating it. Drinking it is a waste in my opinion. I'd rather eat a steak 😂 Man made contraptions are not in my vocabulary.
It's very easy to get enough protein on ANY healthy, calorie-sufficient diet. Even bodybuilders need way less than they think they need. The only ways to be protein-deficient are: starvation, or being on a very poor fast-food diet (e.g. soda, Jello, and candy). The protein panic is generated by industries looking to offload cheap waste products from, primarily, the dairy industry (whey). It's a money-making scheme exploiting people's widespread ignorance of basic nutrition and fitness, filling the void by reinforcing common myths, and body image insecurities.
The front label says "100% Whey 💥" And then there's all these other ingredients. I'm looking for whey because of an unexamined prejudice that the amino profile for dairy proteins are better for fast growth, because they're designed for baby cows who need to stand immediately when they pop out, versus human milk, which is better for brain development. But also, I want it unsweetened, because both stevia and sucralose taste like 🫏. I wan't to formulate my own smoothie daily, with raw components.
"Let's solve problems caused by processed food with another processed food." - My view on American diet today.
I wish I lived in perfect Europe where processed food is evidently banned and everyone eats fresh fruits and vegetables all day
Made protein powder at home.
@@ExtraThiccc Not true at all
@@nomenclator4339 then why so you people brag about how perfect everything is
@@ExtraThiccc I don't know who is "you people" or where are you sourcing your information but processed foods are not banned in the EU. People may compare some other social benefits or regulations compared to the US because of how bad or unregulated some things are over there.
The toxins potential due to lack of regulations was news to me. But it was also great to realize I can check if brands 3rd party test. Hadn't even thought of that with protein powder. Also surprised there was not much mention of vegan proteins as there's a large market there as well.
Plant proteins are toxic and a joke. I would never consume. Plants themselves are full of toxins, GMO's and lectins along with grown in depleted soil. No good comes from plant anything. We are carnivores by design 😂 not rabbits.
Yep. Drinking my protein drink as well as I watch this video. Good broad overview while keeping it simple and short. Everything should be used in moderation. Proteins drinks can help boost immune system before and after surgery, help with recovery while working out, et al but should never be primary food source. They are also a good source for protein while backpacking to keep pack weight down. But not all protein supplements are equal or cover every situation. Some are meant for meal replacement while others are kept lean for cutting calories. While others are meant to help with weight gain. Great video overall.
Thanks for the input here, Reuben! We're happy you enjoyed what we've put out there
Watching this while i drink my protein shake after cycling lol
nyoom 🚲🚲🚲
Brain read “cycling” as “crying”
Me: I guess…. that helps???
I use protein powders because I'm getting older and as you age your body gets worse at processing protein making it easy to lose muscle. Once you lose the muscle it's a lot harder to get it back. It's hard to eat more protein, so adding protein powder helps. Research your powders though and know whats in them.
I use protein powder to achieve my daily protein needs. I don't eat enough volume in general to reach those needs. So a protein supplement greatly helps me in my goals. However, it's very important to do research on who you buy your protein from.
the comparison between real food and protein powder doesn't make a lot of sense, most people consume protein powder *on top of* regular protein, not as a replacement. usually because it's too expensive and/or too caloric to source that protein from food
My job has been flagging people through drug tests for steroids, artificial hormones and other stuff that would get an athlete banned. Most (but not all) were from people using workout powders from GNC, so maybe avoid GNC as they may be putting performance enhancing drugs in their products without listing them on the label.
YO OK YOU ADVERTISING GNC WHAT PRODUCTS WHAT POWDERS I NEED THIS ISH BRO I NEED IT PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU
I have always struggled to eat enough and I use protein powders on and off to help me get nutrients in. Currently I’m using plain pea protein powder with no additives whatsoever (or so they say, I’m not sure if it’s regulated in my country) so I feel reasonably safe about it
I do the same. I am a post menopausal woman who has pre- osteoporosis with a number of autoimmune diseases. My rheumatologist has told me I need to take increase my protein. I have a very good diet but cannot get enough protein without this supplement. I use a pea protein and mix it with almond milk.
As a certified dietitian I can say that not only some plants contain all AA (quinoa, quorn…) but, what is more important, is that your body does not care! It is not that proteins are made after each meal and then your body dumps what it didn’t use. The body is capable of having a 'stock' of AA for some time and make complete proteins with them later on. If you eat chickpeas for lunch and tofu at night for example (which also comes from a legume but with different AA profile) your body will use the AAs from both sources to make protein. A well planned plant-based diet can perfectly fulfill protein needs. Please be careful with this information.
Or you can get your protein from animal sources and don't need to have an aminoacids spreadsheet with each meal.
@@Gengh13 Of course you can, never said you couldn’t. Thanks for your valuable insight.
Is it hard to have a plant based diet when you are bulking for muscle growth purposes?
@@saith2254 well only in the sense that it's hard to have a complete diet with a vegetarian or vegan diet. It's entirely possible, but you have to do some research and maybe see a nutritionist to be sure you aren't missing or getting too little of some nutrients. There are plenty of vegan bodybuilders, so it's completely possible.
@Saith Protein is much less important when bulking, and it's fairly simple to get enough protein on a plant-based diet.
Eating enough calories only gets tough if you stick to 100% whole foods, and primarily vegetables. But eating calorie dense foods like rice, potatoes, pastas, breads, nuts/seeds, tofu, seitan, and some processed plant Meats will help hit your calorie needs.
Why the appeal to nature at the end by mentioning GMOs? I thought it was common knowledge by now that GMOs aren't bad for your health...
It's not the GMOs per se, it's the amount of pesticides that they allow you to use.
Great video, very helpful and informative. For a future video can you touch on Fluoride Free Toothpaste, if they are worth it or not?
All you said about contaminants in protein powders is just as true for any other food we buy in a supermarket.
All that rubbish isn't in Protien Powder in the UK... The US has some interesting food safety precautions
👀👀 would be worth looking into food safety and regulations in North America in comparison with other places
@@FutureProofHealth could be an interesting video idea 👀 Some of the ingredient comparisons of fast food makes for interesting reading.
- McDonald's Fries -
UK: Potatoes, Rapeseed oil, Dextrose and salt.
USA: Potatoes, Vegetable Oil (canola Oil, Corn Oil, Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Natural Beef Flavor [wheat And Milk Derivatives]*), Dextrose, Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate (maintain Color), Salt. *natural Beef Flavor Contains Hydrolyzed Wheat And Hydrolyzed Milk.
😅😅😅
@@MatthewJBDNobody eats McDonald's to be healthy.
I really like this channel and this was a good topic to cover. So no hate intended but the vidieo just kinda felt a little weak. "The Powders could be this or they could be that. They might be healthy or perhaps just straight up poison!" I'm glad you are being careful with the information you are putting out into the world but there didn't really seem to be a point to this video!
I think they’re being careful about making categorical statements, which I think is sensible. However, it is not as if there is a lot of rock proof science about this topic 😂
I agree!! I felt like this was a watered down 12 minute video that only contained about 2 minutes of useful information.
you're the best informers of the whole world! I always wanted to know more about protein powders after I started to suffer from digestive issues while I was consuming then, it was shocking to me cause I just heard wonders about them and their benefits, and I denied it was because of them in the first place, I blamed oats and nuts but as I quit on powders I started getting healthier and it was pretty weird that in my research for better health, I started to get sick and suffer digestive issues when I've never had them before. Thank you so much for this, you are the best!
Ehhh, this video missed the mark. Most people who are using protein powders are people who are athletes or those trying to build muscle, and it’s not always realistic to get all the protein needed at the most optimum times in whole food form. I realize this was stated, but it was only mentioned briefly at the end, when it reality that’s the majority of people using the stuff.
Another issue is that it was only glossed over at the very end that to avoid all the nasty additives they brought to light is to look for third party certifications.
This was a super basic and watered down 12 minute video that only included about 2 minutes of useful information. A more beneficial approach to discussing this topic would have been to talk about if people trying to build muscle may (or may not) benefit from protein powders, and how the average Joe likely doesn’t need it. Definitely should have spent more time on showing how to actually go about finding the high quality powders, what those test labs are checking for, and if there are concerns beyond what they test for that people should still be on the lookout for.
This was great! I appreciate the more balanced view😊
Great video. I'm super impressed with Future Proof's growth
Hey Sher! Great video as usual :) While they sound similar, I’d be interested to know more about “pre-workouts” since they’re distinctly marketed differently and seemingly have different purposes
Thanks, Jeffrey! I wonder if they have similar issues in that market 🤔 We’ll add it to the list of potential future videos! ♥️Sher
Then there's me, drinking a protein powder, simply because the idea of chewing 1 more thing sickens me lol
“Leshooooms”? Hehe….that made me chuckle:)
I lift weights every day, and aim to get in about 0.8grams of protein per pound of body weight.
I use whey protein and plant based protein to make it happen. There’s nothing fancy about it, and it’s not even really a “supplement”. It’s just food. Another source of protein that saves you from having to eat something else. Although I suppose I have to cross my fingers and hope the ingredients are what they say on the packaging!
Hhaha glad it works for you and you're feeling happy with the results. Thanks for contributing to the conversation here!!
This is the sparks notes version of the video
i think a lot of these concerns can be completly written off if you just take Whey protein isolate from a trusted brand
True. I think we know enough about whey and doesn't call for more studies. It's the other stuff they put in, yes, but there are lots of whey products that are straight forward and simple enough.
Also artificial sweeteners are bad (according to the diet coke video) because you tend to eat more, but most take whey to gain mass and not to lose weight.
Same. don't need fancy flavors (use real fruit for your flavoring), don't need color additives, don't need preservatives or anti-caking additives... Simple whey protein isolate. It just works.
when I playing ball in college.., I did a lot protein powder.. then took a good break for a while.., I recently starting using them again.., as life is busier than ever. but definitely.., did is always better than a powder.
Great episode.
Great video! Good and balanced take on protein powders, no-bs facts and who might or might not need them! Although the "non-GMO" at the end was a little puzzling.
Hasn't it already been scientifically verified through exhaustive studies that GMO foods are safe, or in some cases safer, than "non-GMO" and organic foods? Genuinely puzzled and maybe new information has come to light that I've not read up on yet.
Sometimes GMOs cause other on health issues like Monsanto claiming intelectual ownership of seeds, overcoming native plants or affecting biodiversity.
I drink half a scoop of protein shake after gym as recommended by my nutritionist because I need to gain weight and drinking calories help, as it doesn't saciate you as much.
I also don't like most protein rich food very much, so it also helps me to eat enough protein
I do a scoop and a half lol
Best Grass-Fed Whey Protein Concentrate = Nutricost
Ingredients: grass-fed whey protein concentrate, sunflower lecithin, cocoa powder, natural flavors, sodium chloride, stevia
It’s got fairly clean ingredients, and comes from grass fed cows. It tastes great, and mixes well (I use whole “grass milk”).
edit: it’s third party tested
I can’t eat enough protein for my needs, and need to supplement at least once a day with a shake. I try to limit the garbage, and my diet is SUPER CLEAN.
Undogmatic and balanced examination of protein powder. One thing for me is that I hardly eat (once a day) so protein powder helped me a bit to make feel "full" . One thing I recommend is that research anything you are going to buy. Especialy something that goes into your body.
I dont drink it "pure", i just use it as an extra ingedrient in my mass gaining shake alongside oats, peanut butter, frozen berries etc.
Sounds yummy! Thanks for watching + sharing on here. ♥️Sher
Folks over 55 are recommended to add protein supplement. I think it was to help prevent muscle loss, which accelerates as we age. If you try to get the recommended amount of protein just from food, you’ll probably intake too many calories.
And you should also know that most of the dry weight of bones is protein, so it is also useful to prevent and reverse osteoporosis.
Always a non dogmatic balanced take, very enjoyable and informative. I do the powder, but it's a one or two ingredient thing and not a proprietary blend which are often scams. I figure that's good enough and so far I'm getting results in the weight room so I'll keep getting after it.
That's awesome that it's working well for you! Thanks for adding to the conversation here, Jacob 🙏
Also. You don't need lift weights to gain muscle. I sometimes take calistenics days where I don't touch weights.
I never assumed protein powder was better than having protein I didn’t think anyone did? It simply bridges the gap in your haven’t eaten enough protein in a given day
It would be also interesting to watch something about multivitamins (like Centrum) and their effectiveness.
Would've been nice to go into casein vs whey and whey isolate vs whey concentrate.
I agree, maybe there could be a part 2
They are my protein heavy snack maybe 2-4x a week. I like them when I try to eat less animal proteins (I use a vegan protein powder), and especially when I eat vegetarian. Like I’m going out for a pancake breakfast and know that’s not a protein heavy meal, so I make a smoothie. But it does not feel like a meal for me. Maybe I should start making my own protein powder?
I saw a video from a veteran trainer (sadly, do not remember his name) some time ago, which made a lot of sense to me. In short, what he said was the because of the fact, that the powder is processed, you have 2 negative affects to ingesting it, that people are usually not aware of:
1. It actually has higher energy value, that what's written. This is actually true for anything processed: the way calories are measured do not attribute to how much energy our body uses in order to consume the food. Whole meals will force your body to exert more energy in order to digest them, but since processed foods are already kind of digested, you body may not need to exert as much energy, if any at all. This is the idea that some other specialists, including dieticians, started sharing recently. Like, if you eat raw celery you get "negative calories", but if you boil it, because the fiber and other stuff will break from the heat, it will be easier to digest and the calories from the same celery may increase even tenfold (depends on the way you cook it).
2. Powder gives you lots of protein at once, and that may mean that some of it will not be ingested at all and will be secreted by your body. This one does not have any definite proof, because studies seem to provide conflicting evidence, but the idea is that there is a limit of how much protein (and any other element really) can be fully processed in a given period of time. Average protein powder has 30g of protein per portion. Since it already processed it will not be staying in your gut for very long, thus your body will have less time to process those 30g and instead process, say 15g. Meaning, that the other half will be wasted. There is nothing definitive saying what is the upper limit and if there is one, but it may be because of "it depends".
Once I hear about these 2 points and thought about them logically, I decided to no longer waste my money on these powders, because it may help me gain weight, instead of losing it, and I may be just flushing my money down the toiler. Literally.
Also, Sher, this time you look quite blurry. As if there is a bloom effect on the video.
2:58 Lmao “stroke the flames”
Is that the kind of plant I think it is?!?! Lol. Dope vid as always!
2:58 "Stroke the flames" LMAO
Since you mentioned it at the end, how about a video over GMO?
Damn that focus was on the table.
It really was!! Sorry bout that 😬 #learning ♥️Sher
Look for "USDA Organic" or "Informed Choice" stickers on your protein powder, those labels mean the product is regularly tested and meets a certain level of purity and quality that goes above and beyond the normal food standards.
There's no mention on the application of powders. All powders if they are even close to majorly protein will suck in a shake but can be cooked with, sometimes even baked with. I have pre-mixed rice and pea protein, and the best way to make it palatable is by mixing it with rice and beans, or other dishes. Seeing how often I'm short on cash, this helps me stretch my dollar more by eating less but still getting at least the proteins I need. Any leftover money can be spent on fruits or rarely even saved up.
´´Regular´´ people drinking protein powders must be a new US trend. Here in Europe it´s still a niche food for bodybuilders, athletes and for weight loss. Health conscious people tend to avoid it. When i first started drinking, i had to explain to my parents and inlaws how it´s different from anabolic steroids :D
I still drink it though because it tastes amazing. I cleaned up my diet and started exercising, but still have a horrible sweet tooth, so i have protein shakes once or twice a day instead of regular sweets and snacks. It worked great so far, lost almost 20 kilos and counting. As it states on every label: it is a supplement, it´s not supposed to replace your diet, just enhance it. I found a local brand that has third party certification, and buy from them. They even offer and unflavored, unsweetened form of whey that one can flavor themselves for example with stevia and cinnamon or cocoa powder, but i haven´t tried that approach yet.
OMG! I was just contemplating if I should get another 5lbs of whey protein when youtube sent me a notif for this upload
BPA is also in the linings of cans.
I really loved the video and the explication but i would beg to differ about all plant based protein being incomplet. If I only eat vegetables on the day i would not get all my Amino acids, but realistically I would eat a variety of plant based foods like beans, tofu, Tempeh, vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds, etc.
I use a product that contains only whey protein powder and lecithin. I blend it with 1% 🥛 milk and sometimes add fruit. Simple, quick, and easily portable in a screwcap bottle. Without the additives and advertising the price of the 10 pound bag is very reasonable.
I’m not very muscular so I don’t understand the appeal of protein powder. Glad I learned something new!
I've assumed that protein powder with multiple ingredients are more toxic but less nutritious than good food, and powders with 2 ingredients are less nutritious but not toxic. This stuff's main benefit is ease of consumption.
It's hard for me not to see this as confirmation bias, but I have always been very suspect of protein powders. I'm sure there could be benefits to them, but the a large portion North American diet eats so much meat I wonder how necessary it is. In the end, I'm sure it's the case that it each individual needs to do what works for them but I've tried protein powder and it's always just felt like I was adding artificial sweeteners to my post workout smoothies
Depends on your protein/body needs. Powders differ in their usage. Some are mass gainers while other are leaner meant for macro counting. Some are meal replacements while others are meant for recovery. Protein shakes definitely can help in the elderly who do not have an appetite drive. Really depends on if you can eat enough protein. Some people don't so supplementing helps them. If you are on a high protein diet, 150+g per day, it can be difficult and time consuming chewing that much. There is no solid one answer fits every person in every situation.
I lift weights 4 times a week and try to get about 140-170 grams of protein in a day……. It’s hard to actually eat that much protein, so drinking it helps
I recommend abbey sharp’s videos on protein powders (she’s a dietician)
Wait, were you pronouncing "legumes" with a soft g? Is that how they pronounce it in Canada?
As a Canadian, I can confirm we do not pronounce the way she does. It’s a hard g
That plant was really enjoying the spotlight
"Lejumes"?
Maybe not in focus, but still sharp :)
🙏🏾😊♥️Sher
I’ve never heard of someone being protein deficient.
If you keep giving your plant light and love, it’s gonna be the one reading these scripts while you sit on the table.
Everything about this video
... Yes!!!
If you are interested in learning more about this subject, you should listen to Peter Attia. It won’t be a 12 minute video but these subjects require time.
I'd rather eat my protein, satiation last longer. But some days still got 15g of protein left in my macros so the convenience of just throwing a scoop or two. If taste too good, read the ingredients and probably has loads of either sugar or garbage stuff.
Oh also, you’ll probably be interested to know AG1 is advertising on this video lol
Lol that seems to happen a lot. What to do! 🤷🏽♀️ Haha ♥️Sher
If you have weight loss surgery they’ll tell you to use protein powder. Problem is if it gets too hot (in hot drinks or soups) it clumps and gets gross. Or you can drink endless cold shakes which, if they’re made from powder at home, tend to say you need to drink them within 10-15 minutes for best results, which is hard in a tiny stomach pouch. And it’s tiresome having endless sweet drinks. Don’t get me started on clear liquid diet compliant protein drinks like Gatorade with protein. Also gross.
It’s a mistake to think all proteins are equal. I agree we should eat whole foods and start with a base of health formed with strong culinary talent. Don’t however believe pea protein is equivalent to any meat protein. Most non meat protein either aren’t complete or are poorly utilised compared to meat. Some are only 50% as effective. This ain’t a justification for whey at all. Just meat and dairy in general.
Easily my biggest problem with protein powder is the lack of heavy metal and contaminants 3rd party testing not being standardized.
2:59 "Stoke the flames" not "stroke the flames".
protein powder is great because its cost effective, convienent, and also pretty enjoyable.
Clean Label Project looks kinda shady with marketing some protein made in India as one of the best on their website... I don't think India has the strictest regulation for food industry
Small correction protein "completeness" is a myth. All protein sources have all of the essential amino acids just in varying amounts and it's very easy to get them on a vegan diet especially if you eat a lot of whole foods. In fact the only source of protein that doesn't have all of the essential amino acids is gelatin which comes from animals
I love protein powder lol just don’t ONLY drink protein shakes.
Mmmmm... blended tacos... 🌮
I thought that the “complete protein” thing was debunked? Like, as long as you got all the components in a day you were fine. Did I make that up?
Its convenient
i believe this is caled SUPLEMENT for a reason... (Suplement: add an extra element or amount to.) so if this is used ALONG with a good/health diet is very positive! Also due to the PRICE of animal protein is getting very very EXPENSIVE!
However the rest of the info is very very good when considering the sh$% they put in!
If you didn’t learn whey is made from dairy in elementary then I feel like you’re probably not American because I’ve known “curds and whey” were dairy products ever since Little Miss Muffet informed me they exist
Nothing wrong with GMOs
I’ve come to notice something about the videos this channel does relating to the fitness industry - it is very clear that the writers do not take part in sports or exercise. No one thinks protein shakes are the only source of protein a person should consume. They did a video on the main channel talking about how sugary sports drinks are and how athletic people should hydrate with just water. They clearly don’t understand that sugar is extremely beneficial when doing exhausting endurance sports, like bike riding, so you don’t bonk and pass out. I would take this channel seriously if they actually had writers who knew from firsthand experience what they are talking about.
You can be a work out gal. Even if you just walk.
Luckily i'm an egg lover as opposed to protein powder supplements
Lejuuumes
😂 yup. I may never stop saying it like that! The proper way feels boring now. ♥️Sher
Dang I've really been trying to give this channel more opportunities to redeem itself, but the subtly misleading info is getting a bit frustrating 😅 I understand trying to be skeptical and get every possible angle, but these videos aren't that helpful if they just do surface-level research and just mention every possible controversial opinion.
For example, using phrases like "toxic contaminants" makes it sound like you're being poisoned by protein powder, when in reality toxicity is purely dependent on dosage. Anything can be toxic if you eat enough of it. You could say spinach is toxic, but that means nothing because you'd have to give a quantity to give it meaning. Nearly every food has some sort of bad-sounding contaminant, that doesn't necessarily make it dangerous.
Sorry if this came off rude, it's just that some of these topics are something I have a lot of experience with so it's difficult to see them misrepresented and I don't want people getting the wrong ideas! Still giving some useful info for people with no exerience on these topics, but I don't think it's helpful to only provide this somewhat shallow skepticism to everything discussed and have "Proof" in your channel name lol. Best of luck 👍🏼
Completely agree. Also would like to know what % of their audience is from the US - as all of the information here relates to the US. In the UK, protein power is considered and regulated as a food, ain’t no way that BPA thing has legs internationally.
I fully agree! I was excited when this secondary channel came out focused on health topics, but it’s really watered down information.
My flatmate has a theory that extra protein food is the new fat free and new sugar free fad
I am always so entertained by the fact that people think that vegan people don’t eat any protein😂😂😂😂 And they are so surprised that some plants have protein too😂 Like protein is this magical thing only animals can produce😊
In fact the animals get their protein from (drum roll) the plants they eat! So why include a middle-man!
@@joermnycQuinoa is one of the only complete plant proteins.
It's harder to get proteins from plants
Mmm, lejumes
why did she pronounce legumes like that roflllll
so this video just stated the obvious
I’d rather eat a steak🤣
You will get WAY more out of your protein eating it. Drinking it is a waste in my opinion. I'd rather eat a steak 😂 Man made contraptions are not in my vocabulary.
EU food safety standards😎
It's very easy to get enough protein on ANY healthy, calorie-sufficient diet. Even bodybuilders need way less than they think they need. The only ways to be protein-deficient are: starvation, or being on a very poor fast-food diet (e.g. soda, Jello, and candy).
The protein panic is generated by industries looking to offload cheap waste products from, primarily, the dairy industry (whey). It's a money-making scheme exploiting people's widespread ignorance of basic nutrition and fitness, filling the void by reinforcing common myths, and body image insecurities.
Wish they would have touched on this in the video
Protein powder doesn't really work that well but it does do best to drink it right before heavy workout not a regular workout
@3:00, it's STOKE the flames, not stroke.
why are you pronouncing legumes as leJumes? 😂
Cringe at the word “lejume”
Is this channel dead?
BS
Plant supremacy
The front label says "100% Whey 💥"
And then there's all these other ingredients. I'm looking for whey because of an unexamined prejudice that the amino profile for dairy proteins are better for fast growth, because they're designed for baby cows who need to stand immediately when they pop out, versus human milk, which is better for brain development.
But also, I want it unsweetened, because both stevia and sucralose taste like 🫏. I wan't to formulate my own smoothie daily, with raw components.