Othais, between you and Ian (Forgotten Weapons) I get THE most complete picture of weapons possible. This time, your team shot it out of the park. YOU ROCK! Man I have read Hoog, Elmer Keith, Smith and Smith, Cooper, and almost every other writer for the last 100 years but between your knowledge of history, animations, Mae's shooting and comments, and the general way you run a show (also Mark. My GAWD! keep that guy, you folks are a PERFECT TEAM!) you have one of the best firearms history presentations...EVER. and, (I am not un-informed) I learn something every time. When C&Rsenal is on, I know I have a far better and informational entertainment then well heck...the rest of the netowkrs coudl EVER provide. In Other words Crew: Me 'at is off to yee. My Compliments!
I agree. If you want to learn about firearm designs, this channel and Forgotten Weapons is where it is at. You will learn more in a week then an entire course in school.
Agreed; I took a summer course decades ago in gun smithing in Trinidad Colorado. Soon after I woke up and decided I was never getting rich that way, but in terms of design, Ian and Othias could have taught my Professor more then HE KNEW!
Do you guys plan to do anything relating to Russia in WWI. There are at least three more guns you can do relating to this. There is the Winchester Model 1895, The Berdan II and Mosin Nagant.
You know, when the 1911 episode comes, I half expect Othias to go something like: "Hi, my name is Othias, and I have no idea what this thing is. Let's put it in the lightbox anyway."
JUST DAWNED ON ME! Where I had seen that gun before. When I was a kid, I loved the Saturday morning cartoon shows on TV! Mattel was the toy maker that sponsored many of them, and one of their great toys was the spy camera/gun. It was a camera that, of course, didn't take pictures but press the button and a barrel popped out the front, a grip dropped down and you had a cool cap gun! When in the gun mode, it looked very much like this pistol!
Senior Glisenti: Sir please explain to me why the 9 mm Glisenti was used instead of the 9mm Luger or a 380acp ? And Sir what was your family ties with Beretta? Thank You Hon Sir for answering my question.
As one who is interested in WW1 history and an Italian I really appreciate your work, very interesting and detailed video; also because you give specifications also in metric system, thanks
It will be wonderful to see one firing. But I suspect he was talking of a Villar Perosa (another Revelli design). I also really want to see a SIA 1918 LMG (guess who designed it?)
How do you spell “Hosslaroche”? 11:28 I love fusion of C96 and P08 designs and would like to know more about this gun but I can’t find anything under the various ways I’ve tried to spell it
FINALLY! You guys covered the Glisenti 1910. I don't know why but I have a weak spot for these pistols. My brother purchased a pair of these at a local gun show (seller wouldn't sell them separately) for a rather modest sum (considering there were two of them) after I brought them to his attention. He later sold the rougher of the two bringing his purchase point for one pistol even lower. Alas we have not shot it yet as we are trying to find ammunition for it. We are aware of a regular at our local gun shows who has the info to hand load some for us. Barring that we are somewhat leary about firing it as we don't know it's previous history. I don't know how one would tell if it has had 9mm Parabellum fired through it. Thank you Othias for the info about the safety. I'm sure we will check it out next time it emerges from the depths of the gun safe.
Tangero The Sea Cowboy Captain probably read someone the riot when she came in to comment on the pistol. That Winchester is one of her favorite prescious firearms.
Having owned a Winchester lever action model 94 in 30-30 before my (aussie) govt took my "Fudd" guns in 96 I was in love with these rifles from the old cowboy movies. Fun fact im srsly thinking of obtaining a 22 air pellet gun for pest control after I submit to a govt back ground investigation to decide if im a "Fit & proper person" then do the $250 safety coarse to then buy a gun safe anchored to building to store my pellet & paintball guns. Of coarse the police can enter my property 24/7 to verify im in legal compliance. 😕
I was reading "Liquidate Paris" by Sven Hassel and in the book, one of Sven's fellow soldiers traded a Nagant revolver for a Glisenti. Brought me to your video to find out what a Glisenti was!!
Wow what memories you brought back! My grandpa passed me his Sven Hassel books and when he passed away I kept them near my bed so I could remember him in his best shape. He also passed me the engineering passion
Actually, at the time of it's introduction, and through all WWI the possibility for a Glisenti 1910 to shoot a 9mm Luger cartridge by mistake was close to zero (unless a German officer tried to use his cartridges on a captured pistol, but obviously the Italians didn't care of this case). The 9mm Luger was not the most widespread 9mm cartridge in the world, but a cartridge used by only one handgun. Due to it's use in the Villar Perosa since 1915, Much more 9mm Glisenti cartridges than 9mm Luger had been manufactured until the end of WWI. The real slaughter of Glisenti pistols came only in 1943, when, with the disbanding of the Italian Army, many of those guns came in possession of partisans, that had to use them with any cartridge they could find. For the "overcomplicated", the Glisenti is actually made with less parts than a Luger or a 1911. It's expensive to make, cause it requires a high level of machining, but not that complicated. In the end, it's a lot of good ideas, ruined by only one of them, the side plate, that makes the frame too flimsy. With a single piece frame (it would have required to change the way of stripping the gun, but not even that much) the gun could have probably fired 9mm lugers, and today you would have seen much more of those antiques used at the ranges, with the enthusiasts arguing on what was better between this, the Luger, the Astra, ecc... On a side note, when Mussolini was arrested by the partisans at Dongo in his attempt to flee in April 1945, he had a Glisenti 1910 with him.
Even though pistols killed statistically zero soldiers in the great war, their history and production and engineering was awesome. And the glesenti kinda reminds me of the type 14 Nambu pistol.
Would .380 be a good substitute for 9mm Glisenti ? I've shot .380 out of a Norco 213, Chambered & fired, but , not enough power to eject & fully cycle.
I like the new animations. Also I'm glad you added the POV of the sights during the review. This is an interesting pistol, if only they would've left it alone when it was looking like a decent pistol it might've been better. Using a 9x19 cartridge was definitely a mistake too. By the way, I'm so excited about he shirts. My birthday is coming up and I'm getting at least one of each shirt.
I LOVE AND APRECIATE SO SO MUCH YOUR OUTMOST RESPECT TO THE AUTORS OF BOOKS .The world would be a better place if at least 30%of Her inhabitors would be like you .
"it's not a very reliable handgun" "we had many stovepipes" The extractor is clearly bent. Bending the extractor inward is an easy fix for a weakened one, but you can't expect the reliability of one in pristine conditions. BTW the bore axis is EXACTLY as high as in a Walther P38. It's only the shape of the gun that makes it seems higher.
What metal is the clip er... magazine fabricated from? It does look really flimsy, possibly aluminum. Has it lost it's hardening over time or was it not even heat treated?
The Waifucopter i really wish they had a skit at the beginning where Othais was ordering at an "Italian restaurant" and ordered a Glisenti and got this on a plate.
You know I have owned plenty of guns in the past, from an old Luger that was in pristine condition, some of those little .32 and 380 pistols from the Checz area, 9mm makarav and plenty of 9mm par pistols, now all I have left in my drawer are two .45's one an officers model M1911A1 and the other an Astra A-100. Love the .45's but for kicks, I would love to have one of these pistols just to take out plinking with light loads of 9mm.
Okay, first off, this isn't me asking for/demanding the M1911 episode. This is me understanding that the Browning 1900/M1911 setting the pattern for modern Semi-auto handguns is more than the gun being on the side of the victors of the history of the 20th Century.
I'm wondering how much "high" that bore axis really is. Surely it's higher than that of the Luger, but, picturing the barrel as completely covered by the slide, the recoil spring under it, and a dust cover, it doesn't seem higher than that of a SIG P226, that's a relatively hig bore axis pistol, but modern and perfectly viable. the snappy feeling when firing is probably more due to the scarce mass on the front of the handgun. The more the mass is concentrated around the center of gravity, the easier is to make it roll.
I believe you've answered this question before, but do you plan to eventually do world war 2 firearms? I'd really like to learn more about the MP-28 and MP-34
A small part of me wished that you and Ian had secretly planned to release videos on the Winchester 1895 on the same day. Instead, i got this. Im still glad, just a little sad
I don't own one but we generally don't borrow bayonets. We've sort of avoided the topic as they would literally double the complexity of planning inventory ahead of time, despite their low influence on the show.
C&Rsenal With the exception of REALLY expensive or rare examples, (the Winchester Musket being one, though try finding an early SHORT 1895 bayonet!) I just do not understand rifle owners not having the appropriate bayonet. That said, I have like 400 bayonets, so I may have a problem.
The reason I asked is that, according to Cartridges of the World, the glisenti round is somewhat weaker (308 ft/lbs to 465 ft/lbs) than the luger round but quite a bit hotter than the .380 auto (200 ft/lbs). I was thinking 1941 North Africa, where the German and Italian troops were mixed.
that wasn't a problem, 9mm glisenti had a truncated cone projectile, 9 luger was a round nose by ww2italians were used to the difference because since 1938 they had adopted the Fiocchi 9m38 ammo for thery SMG wich was a hot 9mm luger now since we italians also like to additionally screw up things, we produced a certain ammount of 9m38 for the glisenti these had still a truncated cone ball, but of different design, and were loaded to the pressures of the 9glisenti, but were marked as 9m38 we didn't need germans to make a mess
A lot of handgun models in 9mm Luger will cycle with the Glisenti ammo (they cycle subsonic 9mm Luger ammo that are very close to the 9mm Glisenti specs), but the Luger P08 is especially sensible to weak ammos, and even commercial 9mm Luger ammo that are slightly weaker than the original load, tend to jam the gun in extraction. BTW, during WWI, USCCo manufactured something like 84 Million Glisenti cartridges for the Italian Army. At the end of the war, the leftovers were sold in the US as "special purpose 9mm Luger ammunitions".
Original drawings showed round had truncated cone bullet. Noted your cartridges had round nosed bullets. Could this be part of feeding problem? I've seen 9mm Parabellum commercial with truncated cone bullets, does anyone still commercially make this bullet type?
Found a photo lay out of that camera gun that I was talking about below, check it out: www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1964-mattel-agent-zero-snap-shot-camera-pistol
It makes me sad that these are so hard to find now. I'd love to collect Italian WW1 equipment, but wew. Most Glisenti listings are for 1200+, and that's just not happening.
Where are you looking if you don't mind me asking? I ask because my brother retains one (of two purchased) and we are both wondering what the current market value of them is.
There's a bevy of sites online that list various bizarre prices. (If you're looking for a good image, check "sold" auction items too, lots of times the pages with "sold" prices are still up.) But Gunbroker comes to mind most easily. They're the ones I tended to check in the past as well and was astounded that they were so expensive even before this video reminded me that I wanted one. "Glisenti 1910 for sale" got me a whole bunch of results through a search though, in case you want to get a better picture.
Wouldn't it be the company armorer's job to work with it until it shoots reliably? at least when clean? So then it shouldn't be a problem for the soldier who should not receive the gun until the adjustments are done. Also, I hear that flimsy M1 Carbine magazines were replaced almost weekly in combat, so it sounds like they should have done the same with these, though we don't know if they did. I like the Luger look, so what else looks like a Luger but has interchangeable parts and can work dirty? After all, it doesn't need to be any more accurate than I am.
"reached one bit too far" that sums up Italian military history brave soldiers let down by "good enough" mentality, poor leadership decisions, and Italian artisan hand made industry. though i'm glad it turned out that way or i wouldn't exist XD
+Angelo Barker That's adapting facts to beliefs. The Glisenti M1910 was probably too refined to be a good military handgun. It was more a range pistol brought in battle. The same mistake of the Ross rifle, or of the Schmidt-Rubin (had it really been used in battle) that were not Italian weapons. But who adopted it, with it's long machining process and its tungsten-steel barrel, certainly didn't think that it was "good enough". On the other hand the Bodeo revolver, or the Carcano rifle, were perfect to be mass-produced, and used in trench conditions. Every army of the world, at the start of a war, has a similar mix in his equipment. Some piece is very good, some is decent, some is outdated, some should have never been selected. It's the natural outcome of selection process that are not infallible, economic restraints, and of not knowing in advance what the conditions of the next war will be. It has to be taken in account that, from the selection of the Bodeo and of the Carcano to that of the Glisenti, more that 15 years have passed. The conditions of Italian economy had changed, and the Army had moved on from the "crude but effective" mentality. In the same years they were thinking of adopting semiauto rifles for all the army, but, in the meantime, they were producing trench knives from the tips of the shortened Vetterli Vitali bayonets. It doesn't exist a "one size fits all" answer.
Out of curiosity, did you guys hand load for these? I'm imagining so as original ammo is impossible to come by. If so, do you happen to have any load data available? I have one of these, as well as a Beretta in the same cartridge, and haven't found any reliable data for it. It is basically just 9mm downloaded but I haven't found a reliable velocity figure for it.
Hmmmm, not so much a comment on the Glisenti.... but odd...... Ian just got through with a series of videos chronicling the development of Winchester lever action rifles...... and over your left shoulder, Othias, what should appear but a Winchester lever rifle (looks like either a '92' or a '94).
Yes, an 1895 showed up later in the video (when Mae joined Othias in front of the camera), but earlier on, when Othias was discussing the Glisenti's history, there was either an '92 or '94 on the wall over Othias' left shoulder. I just found it interesting to see the lever rifles turn up C&Arsenal at or around the time Ian McCollum (Forgotten Weapons) was doing his historical series on the development of the Winchester lever action rifle(s).
Peter Wishneusky you are correct sir. Seeing that the end of the barrel was barely resting on the peg makes me think they moved it for fear of it falling.
As a suggestion/favor, when you reference another video, e.g. Ian's or your own, could you put links to the video in the description? I think it would help drive traffic to those videos. also, some folks (me, for one) sometimes have trouble tracking them down.
The first line drawing illustration the most notable feature however is that it doesn't have a trigger, and Italian Glisenti sounds like an Ice Cream or sorbet.
Othais, between you and Ian (Forgotten Weapons) I get THE most complete picture of weapons possible. This time, your team shot it out of the park. YOU ROCK! Man I have read Hoog, Elmer Keith, Smith and Smith, Cooper, and almost every other writer for the last 100 years but between your knowledge of history, animations, Mae's shooting and comments, and the general way you run a show (also Mark. My GAWD! keep that guy, you folks are a PERFECT TEAM!) you have one of the best firearms history presentations...EVER. and, (I am not un-informed) I learn something every time. When C&Rsenal is on, I know I have a far better and informational entertainment then well heck...the rest of the netowkrs coudl EVER provide. In Other words Crew: Me 'at is off to yee. My Compliments!
I'm glad you're enjoying it so much!
I agree with Grey Pilgrim, I watch you and Ian , and learn something new every time.
I agree. If you want to learn about firearm designs, this channel and Forgotten Weapons is where it is at. You will learn more in a week then an entire course in school.
Agreed; I took a summer course decades ago in gun smithing in Trinidad Colorado. Soon after I woke up and decided I was never getting rich that way, but in terms of design, Ian and Othias could have taught my Professor more then HE KNEW!
I strongly agree with you on this. He is truly a master,He should be a history teacher!
Such a mild mannered gentleman... Until the "AHAHAAAHAAAHAAA" split my eardrums faster than a stokes landing a meter from my head. Cheers, Othias.
9×19mm *-P* cartridge
9X19 -P -
Today it will be sold as "9mm Luger 124grains FMJ subsonic" cartridge
AKA WWB 9mm
Still too fast. The Glisenti has a muzzle speed of about 1000 fps / 300ms
It kills Italians just fine?
Othias, I like the way you plug their books and throw business their way.
They deserve so much love!
C&Rsenal are y'all down in South Carolina
Do you guys plan to do anything relating to Russia in WWI. There are at least three more guns you can do relating to this. There is the Winchester Model 1895, The Berdan II and Mosin Nagant.
Now that is the kind of plug I can get behind
You know, when the 1911 episode comes, I half expect Othias to go something like: "Hi, my name is Othias, and I have no idea what this thing is. Let's put it in the lightbox anyway."
Если бы у Мусалини был лучший пистолет, он хотя бы смог застрелиться)
JUST DAWNED ON ME! Where I had seen that gun before. When I was a kid, I loved the Saturday morning cartoon shows on TV! Mattel was the toy maker that sponsored many of them, and one of their great toys was the spy camera/gun. It was a camera that, of course, didn't take pictures but press the button and a barrel popped out the front, a grip dropped down and you had a cool cap gun! When in the gun mode, it looked very much like this pistol!
17:53 All the stupid questions and time wasting emails finally broke him.
No I just ended up with ulcers.
Sometimes I imagine Othias goes around and randomly shouts "BODEO!" Occasionally.
Tomorrow is a holiday in my country (Flag Day) so I can watch this at 2 am and feel no guilt. Take that, C&Rrsenal!
It's a good thing the Italians didnt adopt the Colt 1902. We all know that design was an evolutionary dead end.
well I think it's a beautiful handgun. And, btw, you have a great username
Mind that, in that case, they would have adopted the 1902, period. Not it's evolutions.
It's not by chance that none adopted the 1902.
I like pickles.
I mean it's not even Italian
. . . because if Browning had designed more pistols for Colt, they'd have been given a Primer episode by now.
Part of comedic perfection is waiting for the right moment to reveal a new technique. Beautiful. Equal to Mae's smile in Fun Factor.
Good lord that laugh was horrifying.
I need a subtitled gif of that laugh
He wrote the laugh in his script as AHAHAHA, yet it still startled the hell out of me.
I was turned away from my PC when that laugh happened. I had thought my PC broke and my speakers were freaking out.
I freaking lost my shit right there.
I read your comment before watching this episode. I kinda wish the horrifying laugh came from Mae :-D
This gun was made by my family
wow rlly!
A GREAT Italian Pistol! Your family made a Great Gun!
@@raymondkisner9240 it actually quite underpowered
Good weapon
Senior Glisenti: Sir please explain to me why the 9 mm Glisenti was used instead of the 9mm Luger or a 380acp ? And Sir what was your family ties with Beretta? Thank You Hon Sir for answering my question.
As one who is interested in WW1 history and an Italian I really appreciate your work, very interesting and detailed video; also because you give specifications also in metric system, thanks
glad you liked it
*Already hyped for the Fiat-Revelli*
It will be wonderful to see one firing. But I suspect he was talking of a Villar Perosa (another Revelli design).
I also really want to see a SIA 1918 LMG (guess who designed it?)
How do you spell “Hosslaroche”? 11:28 I love fusion of C96 and P08 designs and would like to know more about this gun but I can’t find anything under the various ways I’ve tried to spell it
FINALLY! You guys covered the Glisenti 1910. I don't know why but I have a weak spot for these pistols. My brother purchased a pair of these at a local gun show (seller wouldn't sell them separately) for a rather modest sum (considering there were two of them) after I brought them to his attention. He later sold the rougher of the two bringing his purchase point for one pistol even lower.
Alas we have not shot it yet as we are trying to find ammunition for it. We are aware of a regular at our local gun shows who has the info to hand load some for us. Barring that we are somewhat leary about firing it as we don't know it's previous history. I don't know how one would tell if it has had 9mm Parabellum fired through it.
Thank you Othias for the info about the safety. I'm sure we will check it out next time it emerges from the depths of the gun safe.
I have a soft spot for these pistols too^^
Quality work Othais and team. Thankyou again.
Wow! That's the most balanced flip I've seen yet!
Once again you've satisfied my history jones. Thanks.
That Winchester on the wall is just there to taunt us, isn't it
Tangero as long as it isn't the 1895 Russian taunting me I'm okay lol
You mean the one on the third spot during shooting impressions?
Tangero shit I didn't even notice the switch lol... now I am upset :(
Tangero The Sea Cowboy Captain probably read someone the riot when she came in to comment on the pistol. That Winchester is one of her favorite prescious firearms.
Having owned a Winchester lever action model 94 in 30-30 before my (aussie) govt took my "Fudd" guns in 96 I was in love with these rifles from the old cowboy movies. Fun fact im srsly thinking of obtaining a 22 air pellet gun for pest control after I submit to a govt back ground investigation to decide if im a "Fit & proper person" then do the $250 safety coarse to then buy a gun safe anchored to building to store my pellet & paintball guns. Of coarse the police can enter my property 24/7 to verify im in legal compliance. 😕
The animations are getting better and better. Great work with the zoom-in and all that stuff.
I love this series more and more with each episode.
Yes, the animation highlights the parts being talked about. I hope this continues.
I was reading "Liquidate Paris" by Sven Hassel and in the book, one of Sven's fellow soldiers traded a Nagant revolver for a Glisenti. Brought me to your video to find out what a Glisenti was!!
Wow what memories you brought back! My grandpa passed me his Sven Hassel books and when he passed away I kept them near my bed so I could remember him in his best shape. He also passed me the engineering passion
Terrific book, read it on the plane to Afghanistan when I was 22. Feels like 1000 years ago, but actually just 2 decades.
Actually, at the time of it's introduction, and through all WWI the possibility for a Glisenti 1910 to shoot a 9mm Luger cartridge by mistake was close to zero (unless a German officer tried to use his cartridges on a captured pistol, but obviously the Italians didn't care of this case). The 9mm Luger was not the most widespread 9mm cartridge in the world, but a cartridge used by only one handgun. Due to it's use in the Villar Perosa since 1915, Much more 9mm Glisenti cartridges than 9mm Luger had been manufactured until the end of WWI.
The real slaughter of Glisenti pistols came only in 1943, when, with the disbanding of the Italian Army, many of those guns came in possession of partisans, that had to use them with any cartridge they could find.
For the "overcomplicated", the Glisenti is actually made with less parts than a Luger or a 1911. It's expensive to make, cause it requires a high level of machining, but not that complicated.
In the end, it's a lot of good ideas, ruined by only one of them, the side plate, that makes the frame too flimsy. With a single piece frame (it would have required to change the way of stripping the gun, but not even that much) the gun could have probably fired 9mm lugers, and today you would have seen much more of those antiques used at the ranges, with the enthusiasts arguing on what was better between this, the Luger, the Astra, ecc...
On a side note, when Mussolini was arrested by the partisans at Dongo in his attempt to flee in April 1945, he had a Glisenti 1910 with him.
good job guys production is so slick.
Once again we learn that Italian weapons have the most entertaining origin stories.
Even though pistols killed statistically zero soldiers in the great war, their history and production and engineering was awesome. And the glesenti kinda reminds me of the type 14 Nambu pistol.
Alvin York killed some germans with the 1911
Would .380 be a good substitute for 9mm Glisenti ?
I've shot .380 out of a Norco 213,
Chambered & fired, but , not enough power to eject & fully cycle.
This channel deserves more subscribers.
thanks
Great episode !
Thanks
Damn, mechanically ive gotta say that this seems like an all around pretty slick design.
I like the new animations. Also I'm glad you added the POV of the sights during the review. This is an interesting pistol, if only they would've left it alone when it was looking like a decent pistol it might've been better. Using a 9x19 cartridge was definitely a mistake too.
By the way, I'm so excited about he shirts. My birthday is coming up and I'm getting at least one of each shirt.
I have nothing to add but commenting helps the videos get ranking in search.
17:52 Well that was unexpected. A good video as always though.
I LOVE AND APRECIATE SO SO MUCH YOUR OUTMOST RESPECT TO THE AUTORS OF BOOKS .The world would be a better place if at least 30%of Her inhabitors would be like you .
When May said at end of review 'Im good' Really enjoy her role in review
any videos where Mae gives a "hard yes"? yeah... im serious.... much love C&R :-) you guys are amazing
think Lugers earned that
"it's not a very reliable handgun" "we had many stovepipes"
The extractor is clearly bent. Bending the extractor inward is an easy fix for a weakened one, but you can't expect the reliability of one in pristine conditions.
BTW the bore axis is EXACTLY as high as in a Walther P38. It's only the shape of the gun that makes it seems higher.
"These cracked up as much as I did"... as I did too, as I did too...
What metal is the clip er... magazine fabricated from? It does look really flimsy, possibly aluminum. Has it lost it's hardening over time or was it not even heat treated?
Kevin Sullivan almost all magazines back then were made from Steel, usually very mild sheet steel of some type or another.
For the general public, the book's title in English is The Five Lives of the Glisenti 1910.
I wish they sold a version in English
The music during the animation sounds like something out of the Mass Effect trilogy, it's quite nice!
ravioli ravioli give me the giisentioli
Exactly! Sounds like something I order in an Italian restaurant along with my Gelato.
The Waifucopter i really wish they had a skit at the beginning where Othais was ordering at an "Italian restaurant" and ordered a Glisenti and got this on a plate.
The Waifucopter ♥♥♥
Hahaha lol roflmao
@@panzerabwerkanone exactly let's dont forget the side order of salad lol
great as always
Reminds me of the Type A "Grandpa" Nambu, but oddly taller. Gramps got some lifts!
17:53 SOMEBODY PLEASE MAKE A GIF OF THAT SHIT
Many Miles Away do the crusader
Ask and ye shall receive.
imgur.com/gallery/aWC0b
You know I have owned plenty of guns in the past, from an old Luger that was in pristine condition, some of those little .32 and 380 pistols from the Checz area, 9mm makarav and plenty of 9mm par pistols, now all I have left in my drawer are two .45's one an officers model M1911A1 and the other an Astra A-100. Love the .45's but for kicks, I would love to have one of these pistols just to take out plinking with light loads of 9mm.
Okay, first off, this isn't me asking for/demanding the M1911 episode. This is me understanding that the Browning 1900/M1911 setting the pattern for modern Semi-auto handguns is more than the gun being on the side of the victors of the history of the 20th Century.
so the cei rigatonni is next?
vogonford thank you for that joke sir, mama mia
I'd love to see special that just focuses on the vast variety of bullets used in WWII.
we keep prodding drake
JAM-O-MATIC! Good effort on getting this episode in. That gun did not make it easy apparently.
To quote Get Shorty "The Fiat of Guns"
FIAT = Für Italiener Ausreichende Technik = Technology sufficient for Italians.
What is the historical song on this one for the shooting section?
You guys really need to do an episode on that ppsh caliber m1911 you got on your wall...
Posting from the year 2021 and still no Brixia episode.
Can you reccomend any books that detail information about Japanese handguns? I know the question is irelevant but I was just curious.
I wonder if they had stuck with .30 Luger ?
I want one now lol! Love your videos
What kind of ammunition can you fire?
Sad this wasn't in bf1, we did get the bodeo and modello
(I think I misspelt it)
I like that the shorthand term for the modello 1915 became "modello" as if that doesn't just mean "model"
I'm wondering how much "high" that bore axis really is. Surely it's higher than that of the Luger, but, picturing the barrel as completely covered by the slide, the recoil spring under it, and a dust cover, it doesn't seem higher than that of a SIG P226, that's a relatively hig bore axis pistol, but modern and perfectly viable.
the snappy feeling when firing is probably more due to the scarce mass on the front of the handgun. The more the mass is concentrated around the center of gravity, the easier is to make it roll.
The modello 1899 would be interesting.
I believe you've answered this question before, but do you plan to eventually do world war 2 firearms? I'd really like to learn more about the MP-28 and MP-34
Are you guys gonna do an Episode on the Krag Jorgensen? It'd be interesting to see how that action works.
how do you open something "like a clam"?
Sideways.
Thanks. I learned a new thing.
As the 7.65? Would it be a yes or no for you?
hard to say without having one
why do the rifles on the wall keep changing? that model 94 wasnt there before.
A small part of me wished that you and Ian had secretly planned to release videos on the Winchester 1895 on the same day. Instead, i got this. Im still glad, just a little sad
sry not sry
C&Rsenal You don't need a bayonet for the 1895, do you?
I don't own one but we generally don't borrow bayonets. We've sort of avoided the topic as they would literally double the complexity of planning inventory ahead of time, despite their low influence on the show.
C&Rsenal With the exception of REALLY expensive or rare examples, (the Winchester Musket being one, though try finding an early SHORT 1895 bayonet!) I just do not understand rifle owners not having the appropriate bayonet. That said, I have like 400 bayonets, so I may have a problem.
Hi team, is there a anvil episode on this pistol
C&Rsenal at 50% speed on your youtube settings- try it.
He laughs like Rocket Raccoon.
"That is the most real, authentic, hysterical laugh of my entire life..."
The auto generated subtitles labeled it the placenta pistol, not glisenti pistol.
I don't think you have playback speed change enabled for viewers on this video.
Is that a Winchester 94 on the wall behind you? :D
25:19 Winchester on the wall
43:19 No Winchester on the wall,
BUT a Winchester with the best smile. :)
The light box banjo theme music needs to replace the intro theme and caption with Mae’s playing “air banjo”🦊 6:10
Looking forward to a review of the earlier Berretta's.
I just have to ask what determines the gender of a firearm?
For some reason I misheard the intro as "Italy was fucking up" and thought Othais was just being real for a minute there.
Sleep is for the weak.
I can sleep a week!
keith moore or you live on the west coast lol
Wakes up ready to study.
Sees episode about Italian gun.
No time to study, the Piave is calling!
Can a luger use glisenti ammo? Will it Cycle?
The reason I asked is that, according to Cartridges of the World, the glisenti round is somewhat weaker (308 ft/lbs to 465 ft/lbs) than the luger round but quite a bit hotter than the .380 auto (200 ft/lbs). I was thinking 1941 North Africa, where the German and Italian troops were mixed.
that wasn't a problem, 9mm glisenti had a truncated cone projectile, 9 luger was a round nose
by ww2italians were used to the difference because since 1938 they had adopted the Fiocchi 9m38 ammo for thery SMG wich was a hot 9mm luger
now since we italians also like to additionally screw up things, we produced a certain ammount of 9m38 for the glisenti
these had still a truncated cone ball, but of different design, and were loaded to the pressures of the 9glisenti, but were marked as 9m38
we didn't need germans to make a mess
Gjldo the 9mm originally used on the luger was the same shape. it ain't a problem
A lot of handgun models in 9mm Luger will cycle with the Glisenti ammo (they cycle subsonic 9mm Luger ammo that are very close to the 9mm Glisenti specs), but the Luger P08 is especially sensible to weak ammos, and even commercial 9mm Luger ammo that are slightly weaker than the original load, tend to jam the gun in extraction.
BTW, during WWI, USCCo manufactured something like 84 Million Glisenti cartridges for the Italian Army. At the end of the war, the leftovers were sold in the US as "special purpose 9mm Luger ammunitions".
how do i write the name of pistol in 11:28?
Original drawings showed round had truncated cone bullet. Noted your cartridges had round nosed bullets. Could this be part of feeding problem? I've seen 9mm Parabellum commercial with truncated cone bullets, does anyone still commercially make this bullet type?
Shouldn't be an issue. The lugers started the same way. If anything round should feed smoother.
What is the name of the song when Mae is shooting?
Nice group 👌
Found a photo lay out of that camera gun that I was talking about below, check it out: www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1964-mattel-agent-zero-snap-shot-camera-pistol
It makes me sad that these are so hard to find now. I'd love to collect Italian WW1 equipment, but wew. Most Glisenti listings are for 1200+, and that's just not happening.
Where are you looking if you don't mind me asking? I ask because my brother retains one (of two purchased) and we are both wondering what the current market value of them is.
There's a bevy of sites online that list various bizarre prices. (If you're looking for a good image, check "sold" auction items too, lots of times the pages with "sold" prices are still up.) But Gunbroker comes to mind most easily. They're the ones I tended to check in the past as well and was astounded that they were so expensive even before this video reminded me that I wanted one. "Glisenti 1910 for sale" got me a whole bunch of results through a search though, in case you want to get a better picture.
Perhaps with any luck a manufacturer will make a new line of reproduction Glisenti 1910 pistols~
@@imyourdaddy5822Honestly as wacky as this will sound, Airsoft Glisenti 1910 would be amazing.
You want a glistening Glisenti?
Wouldn't it be the company armorer's job to work with it until it shoots reliably? at least when clean? So then it shouldn't be a problem for the soldier who should not receive the gun until the adjustments are done. Also, I hear that flimsy M1 Carbine magazines were replaced almost weekly in combat, so it sounds like they should have done the same with these, though we don't know if they did. I like the Luger look, so what else looks like a Luger but has interchangeable parts and can work dirty? After all, it doesn't need to be any more accurate than I am.
"reached one bit too far" that sums up Italian military history brave soldiers let down by "good enough" mentality, poor leadership decisions, and Italian artisan hand made industry. though i'm glad it turned out that way or i wouldn't exist XD
The Bodeo and Carcano were perfect for the economy as it was.
+Angelo Barker That's adapting facts to beliefs. The Glisenti M1910 was probably too refined to be a good military handgun. It was more a range pistol brought in battle. The same mistake of the Ross rifle, or of the Schmidt-Rubin (had it really been used in battle) that were not Italian weapons. But who adopted it, with it's long machining process and its tungsten-steel barrel, certainly didn't think that it was "good enough". On the other hand the Bodeo revolver, or the Carcano rifle, were perfect to be mass-produced, and used in trench conditions.
Every army of the world, at the start of a war, has a similar mix in his equipment. Some piece is very good, some is decent, some is outdated, some should have never been selected. It's the natural outcome of selection process that are not infallible, economic restraints, and of not knowing in advance what the conditions of the next war will be.
It has to be taken in account that, from the selection of the Bodeo and of the Carcano to that of the Glisenti, more that 15 years have passed. The conditions of Italian economy had changed, and the Army had moved on from the "crude but effective" mentality. In the same years they were thinking of adopting semiauto rifles for all the army, but, in the meantime, they were producing trench knives from the tips of the shortened Vetterli Vitali bayonets. It doesn't exist a "one size fits all" answer.
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Out of curiosity, did you guys hand load for these? I'm imagining so as original ammo is impossible to come by.
If so, do you happen to have any load data available? I have one of these, as well as a Beretta in the same cartridge, and haven't found any reliable data for it. It is basically just 9mm downloaded but I haven't found a reliable velocity figure for it.
If you email me I can forward to Jay to get his notes.
Hmmmm, not so much a comment on the Glisenti.... but odd...... Ian just got through with a series of videos chronicling the development of Winchester lever action rifles...... and over your left shoulder, Othias, what should appear but a Winchester lever rifle (looks like either a '92' or a '94).
hmmm
Peter Wishneusky
It's a 1895
Yes, an 1895 showed up later in the video (when Mae joined Othias in front of the camera), but earlier on, when Othias was discussing the Glisenti's history, there was either an '92 or '94 on the wall over Othias' left shoulder. I just found it interesting to see the lever rifles turn up C&Arsenal at or around the time Ian McCollum (Forgotten Weapons) was doing his historical series on the development of the Winchester lever action rifle(s).
I've seen some correlations between Forgotten Weapons and Anvil as well.
Peter Wishneusky you are correct sir. Seeing that the end of the barrel was barely resting on the peg makes me think they moved it for fear of it falling.
As a suggestion/favor, when you reference another video, e.g. Ian's or your own, could you put links to the video in the description? I think it would help drive traffic to those videos. also, some folks (me, for one) sometimes have trouble tracking them down.
Sorry, it is in the overlay available (according to yt) on all platforms
Cool pistol, but how do you source brass for reloading?
The case has the exact dimensions of the 9mm Luger, the projectile is a truncated-cone 124 grains FMJ.
The first line drawing illustration the most notable feature however is that it doesn't have a trigger, and Italian Glisenti sounds like an Ice Cream or sorbet.
Found one of these at a local gun shop, what ammunition did you use for the shooting? Hand loaded or factory?
9mm Glisentii is essentially downloaded 9mm Luger. There are handloading info on the round out there.
Kevin Klosz handloads.
Are y'all in South Carolina
Charleston
Would ya look at that in in Columbia
OH COME ON, I LITERALLY JUST GOT A CHANCE TO WATCH THE CHECKERING VIDEO
You had a week...